Judges Fault CJIs on Assignment & Selection of Cases, Judicial Appointments | Kapil Sibal
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In the latest edition of Central Hall, three former judges of the Supreme Court - Justice A.K. Patnaik, Justice Madan B. Lokur and Justice Deepak Gupta - join Kapil Sibal in analysing some of the problems plaguing the Supreme Court of India. Problems such as the Chief Justice of India's role as Master of the Roster, the selection of judges, the assignment of cases, and the manner in which cases of constitutional importance and personal liberty are getting delayed.
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This is what needs to be done more often, introspection and discussion about health of one branch of our system. This is how as society we grow.
The bottom line is that the Supreme Court is not delivering justice based on the law, but based on the judges' own inclinations, and with the connivance of forces outside the court.
The bottom most line is that there is not one single institution that is not corrupt. Almost all of us are buyable, so why not the judiciary too? Those in the game of power need people / institutions who can be bought and be manipulated. And so the game goes on.
And it will go on till all is lost and we have to rediscover our Self and learn to live by values that support it. Until then …… it’s going to get tougher Sir!
Thanks Wire & Mr Sibal for bringing eminent judges for discussion.Stay healthy & blessed you all.🙏
We really owe thanks to The Wire for bringing up one of the most important issues on judiciaries. The judges are mostly seen bias not giving judgements in accordance with the Rules of Law. Some honest judges are immediately transferred when on the verge of giving honest judgements. People have started to lose faiths in lots of the judges with their amazing judgements. The Wire are humbly requested to continue with these kinds of Debates in future involving fomer & present competent & honest judges and advocates so the corrective messages reach to the House of Judiciaries and the Governments. Thanks.
Kapil Sibal is a very good addition to The Wire ... and vice versa.
May the conversations with honourable judges inspire the Nation.
Good wishes.
What a soul searching and illuminating discussion emerged with the three eminent former judges and Mr. Sibal. Of course it is another issue whether corrective steps will be taken by the apex court taking suo motu cognizance of the issues thrown up by these eminent persons.
Excellent prog Kapil sir. You all are the touch bearers. We can not see the country in this state.
Thanks so much to the Wire and Mr.Kapil Sibal for this excellent presentation. Judges come from different back grounds and will definetely have different views on their understanding of Laws. The Utmost and final understanding should be based on pure logic and impartial and should cater to the highest order of Truth and Righteousness. As one of the Hon. Judges spoke that like in the US, the Judges can group together and go for a discussion in private once or twice if necessary and come to a final decision. We look forward to hearing more of such great discussions. Thank you.
Very enlightened discussion between legal luminaries of nation. Hope, wish and pray, that future discussions would provide a roadmap for course correction towards ensuring judicial supremacy, independence and constitutional sanctity. 👍👌👏🙏
Every institution must introspect itself whether it may be judiciary. the last hope for the citizens of this country as of now. Extremely burning topic!👌👌👌👌
What a delightful inforemative discussion by three respected eminent jugdestaken by Kabil Sibal Sir, thanks to Wire 👍👏 please keep it up.❤
Three cheers K Sibal.
Three of the very best on one platform
What a great conversation between top legal stalwarts of the country. Indeed such discussions are a healthy sign of a democracy.
Please hold these conversations every month if possible Sir! These will be the milestones of morality in the country . At least we will be able to say that there WERE some justices who tried to show us the way !
Very useful discussion. Only wire can give space for these discussions. Congrats wire
this should be in national tv as well
Kapil Sibal knows what is Karam...
People all over the world would respect the thought and thinking of this man.. Wish Kapil Sibal for a joyful and peaceful life ahead. May God bless Kapil Sibal abundant
Very nice start to get India’s democracy back 🙏🏼
Very healthy and thoughtful panel discussion!! Thanks Sibal sir for organising such discussion and thanks the honorable judges(retired)for expressing their concerns and observations for the public.🙏🙏👍
The discussion was very interesting, important, informative and valuable too.
Excellent discussion.. This should happen frequently 🙏🏻
Excellent and you should do this more often as we are all enlightened listening to learned voices discuss matters in civilised manner. 🙏
An excellent discussion. Expect many more such discussions.
More discussion with judges should be there to understand world of judiciary.
With ranjan gagoi also plus present cji
You are absolutely saluted Sir ji 🙏🏻❤️
Mr Sibal is right in saying upfront that there is no hope.
The situation is depressing, distressing.
As an ordinary citizen of the country i am sorely disappointed with our judiciary for not being there for all those knocking on their doors for justice. I pray that there is a change in the attitude of our judges towards delivering justice. God help.
Agreed. But is it THEIR sole responsibility to deliver justice? Why heap all the moral responsibilities on the judiciary? Where is the विवेक , नैतिकता of each of us ? They are part of the general society. They will change when we will change Sir !
Respected Sibbal ji, I am ex Police Officer, having worked in Mumbai Police for over 36 yrs n have retired in 2004, being one of the most decorative officer. During my tenure, I have attended several courts right upto High Courts n have seen the Politician,s from close quaters. As far as my cases are concerned, I have not found any Politician interfering in a y of my cases, except one, which was between two industrialist, which I would like to maintain annonimity. I would have appreciated, if you would have asked direct question to Hon. Justices with regard to the judgements in the following cases. 1) Gujrat Court Judgements by all the Gujrat Courts, in giving verdict in Rahul Gandhi's case in awarding maximum punishment, probably for the first time after the Independence. 2)Was it proper for Justice Ranjan Gogoi, to hear a case in which allegations were made against him of sexual harrasment by the staff member of the Supreme Court. He not only hears his own case, but he dismisses the lady b her disabled brother in law . He goes to an extent to ensure, that her father and brother working in Delhi Police is also dismissed. He was one of the four Judges, who had the press conference in which Justice Lokur was present. It was then , one of the Judges has categorically stated that the Democracy was in danger n had also mentioned about the case of Judge Loya, which was assigned to a Junior Judge. We saw the outcome of the case n what, I observed, that the attitude of Justice Gogoi had changed, which led to the Judgement of Babri Mazid demolition case. He was awarded with the post of BJP Rajya Sabha member, within weeks, after he delivered the Judgement. This , therefore raised the eye brows of several persons, particularly those from minor community. 3) Was it proper for the Supreme Court to appoint Sr. Adv. Harish Salve as AMICUS CURRIE, in the case of the then C.M. Narendra Modi, being fully aware, that he was the Solicitor General during the Vajpayee Govt. n till date, he defends the present Govt. in imp. matters. Can a person in proper sense, believe, that he would present an unbiased report against any BJP leader. Let me make myself clear, that I am neither a Hindu or a Muslim n have no affiliation for any political party. If anybody is hurt, by the questions I have raised, I tender my unconditional apology, since I was only keen to know, whether the above Judgements were on the basis of facts/ Political pressure or emotions. JAI HIND.
Not a single judgement of our SC/ HC has ever been beneficial. Why the judges take decades? Why contrary verdict, ? Trial court order, single bench HC , two bench HC, single bench SC, double bench SC, all r different which we have no law & judgement is as for a particular judges wishes.
2nd How the low meritious llb judges r expert in military, finance, PM security,, medical etc.
Who is judging the judges ? The judges r holding court in train couch if short of service which means there is no boundary of their power & they r not accountable to any one.
The worst judiciary in the world.
@@Harshit52627 it took 2 decades ,that is our judiciary. Had modi & jogi not at the helm it would have been till undecided. It's not the verdict but background negotiations.
How the judges of Kolkata HC r fighting? , shame to our low meritious collegium judges.
POINTS TO PONDER: JUDICIARY IS A CORRUPT ANTI NATIONAL OLIGARCHY
IT IS TIME TO FIX JUDICIARY ( Unelected Opposition Party)
1. There have been 50 Chief Justice of India since 1950 (in the last 74 years). IT IS A JOKE
2. Sh. H.J. Kania was CJI for only 17 days (25.11.1991-12.12.1991). Sh. Patanjali Sastri was CJI for only 29 days (2.5.2004-31.5.2004)
Other Statistics
Number Of CJI-- For Less Than 2 months =4
For Less Than 3 months =6
For Less Than 6 months =11
For Less Than 12 months=22
For Less Than 18 months=35
For Less Than 24 months=37
It should be noted that once you retire as CJI even for a day , you get luxurious retirement benefits-big house, pension, servants, security etc. etc. costing a few crores every year.
What was underlying intention to appoint anyone CJI when it was known that he was going to retire in a few days or months? IS IT FAIR TO SELFISHLY BURDEN THE POOR CITIZENS OF INDIA?
Why CJI appointments are not made for only those e.g. with minimum 2 years’ service left and on merits? Not every judge is “equal” once he manages to enter the system, so why appointments are seniority based? Quality of past life-time judgments, no. of judgments over-turned, character, patriotism etc. must be factored in to select a competent CJI
3. Sh.Y. V. Chandrachud was the 16th CJI and served for longest period of time (1978-1985, 7 years 5 months). His son (present CJI) Sh. D.Y.Chandrachud is the 50th Chief Justice of India in the last 74 years. Is this not nepotism. There are other cases of alleged nepotism-induced appointments to SC/HC and CJI post and that calls for transparent and better selection system. Remember poor public is feeding them without any accountability built in the system. Even God is accountable sometimes?
4. Since selection to CJI /SC JUDGES posts are NOT TRANSPARENT , merit is ignored. Once they rise up in the system, they pretend they are above God ,omniscient intellectuals who can sermonise elected PM, President, ministers and of course, the abominable public. If they were so brilliant they would have become engineers, doctors,scientists etc. Right?
They start running oligarchy-own masters without any accountability although rest of the citizens must be accountable. No one can touch these self-appointed Lords.
Elected leaders created fraework of judiciary and now they are not willing to listen to them or the people of India. Outrageous,Nonsense.They must be crushed and pulverised
There are grave risks of an incompetent person managing to manipulate the system and sabotage Hindu Rashtra by behaving as a paid anti-national or Unelected Leader of Opposition.
As a first step, Supreme Court should be relocated to Galwan valley or Atari border -on the line of fire so that they face consequences of their anti-national judgments. They need to be dragged out of their ivory tower and made accountable to bring them to their senses. JUDICIARY NEEDS TO BE CRUSHED. India needs to be protected from ENEMY WITHIN.
References:
1. Wikipedia
2. Could post-retirement benefits for Supreme Court judges hamper judicial independence?scroll.in/article/1031816/can-post-retirement-benefits-for-supreme-court-judges-hamper-judicial-independence
Very nice initiative sir. Though we know the "Kumbhkarnas" sitting on the judiciary now may not listen. But it's necessary to play the drums near their ears. A big salute to all of you. It's a great service to mankind. Love you Kapil sir. ❤❤❤
Enlightening discussion,
Very very very good and valuable debate
The process of becoming better is a continuous one powered by passion and desire to be best … hope this movement gets momentum and becomes a culture to bring excellence
Kapil sibal sir please continue your efforts great things happen gradually
Very very well curated Kapil ji. This is such an enlightening conversation for the common masses. Deepest respect to you and all the honorable justices. You have chosen the correct path. Keep doing this good work for the people.
Wow.. just wow. I have high hopes from current CJI. I hope he is listening.
The discussion casts new light on earlier justices.
This is why I donate to Wire.
#thewire you guys are doing really great job..... keep going.
Thanks Sibal sir for excellent disscution for democracy protection
So much wisdom in 40 minutes for a lifelong student of law like me. Grateful for this. ❤
Its kind of relief while its a disaster to see the concerns i had in my mind are indeed infact the concerns to finest legal minds..thanks for organizing such talks..
Wonderful.. what gravitas !!! Why should such gentleman retire at all ? They are as sharp as ever !! There should be no retirement age for judges as long as they are physically fit and want to continue .
Interesting conversation and hopefully government does not hammer Wire to continue this conversation.
You never know, they don't want the people to speak the truth nor hear the truth
Jem of content ❤
This kind of discussion used to be in RSTV before 2014
Very good conversation only hope the sitting judges watch this and draw some inspiration!
Great discussion. Wonderful suggestions/solutions put forward by the learned judges. Hope those in power heed their views.
Excellent discussion, great panel.
But will anything change in the foreseeable future?
Who is going to do it?
Gem for years to come ❤
Fruitful & Honest......
How abt judges being offered Post retirement Jobs....
Shukriya Sibal sb
It is very sad, in last several yrs, the SC actions and verdicts are looked by people as something biased towards a political.party. very sad. SC must be seen as the strongest pillar to maintain democracy...
Excellent conversation. Insightful..
These conversations are much needed! Thankyou for initating this series!
This episode is wonderful and fantastic.
The deterioration in judiciary has happened in tandem with the deterioration in the Executive ... and the Legislature.
A discussion relevant for the times we live in.
VERY NICE & CORRECT INITIATIVE TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS IN A DOMAIN THAT IS OPEN TO PUBLIC
Thankyou. Looking forward to next episode.
Very good and informativ discussion in a polite and civilized way.
Thanks
I am really enjoying (Not sure if "enjoying" the right word, @this juncture of Country) Sibalji forum for social / economical / political /judicial/police justice causes immensely, Thank You!
Of late, we the common citizens who fortunately or unfortunately are witnessing the downfall of the institutions are so pleased to note that Mr.Sibal, who is a successful lawyer as well as a somewhat unfit in to a moulded politician, has found the reformist streak in him & has chosen the very field in which he is good at for the sake of country & it's ordinary citizens like us. My best wishes to him in his endeavour.😊😊
It’s good that those intricacies are unfold to the public , it’s the sign for making it more transparent in the judiciary unlike the parliament and state assembly at least.
Weldone Sir
We are always with neutral and intellectual media.❤😂🎉😢😮😅😊
Many things need to change , we need experienced person to guide in future like you . Take care.
Excellent discussion
BRINGING THESE JUDGES AND THEIR LIKES BACK ON-BOARD IS THE IMMEDIATE NEED OF THE HOUR.
Great conversation
Such kind of discussions are important. Because, all those who question are labelled anti national. There is need of organic intellectuals who can raise awareness among general public.
Loved the clarity in the thoughts ❤
wonderful
Healthy discussion for a healthy mind ❤❤. Please invite CJI Dy Chandrachud
So Educational 😊
Good one Sir
Hamare Loktantrik Desh Bharat mein Loktantra aur Loktantrik Moolyon ki Raksha Honee Chahiye.-‐-- AJAM, Buxar, Bihar.
Nice conversation by Sibbal sir
Decent and enlightening discussion
Thanks thanks thanks
Beautiful ❤❤❤
Super 😍🎉 Excellent 👌🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for such a discussion
very good discussion
Thank you.
Good programme.
Most supreme court judges are spineless.No decision goes against govt.
CJI a great dissappointnent.
Very enlightening discussion...
Man great conversation ❤❤
Thanks kapil sibal
Good one
Mr. Sibbal, Only a few well heeled and affluent Individuals have a hope of reforming the present social and administrative system. . The majority is simply accepting as a hopeless situation..
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Learned Advocate Mr. Sibal please next time discuss with him only "Case of Learned Judge Late Mr. Lohia".
विद्वान अधिवक्ता श्री सिब्बल कृपया अगली बार उनसे केवल "विद्वान न्यायाधीश स्वर्गीय श्री लोहिया के मामले" पर ही चर्चा करें।
🙏🏻I am Ex-Judicial Officer 🙏🏻
Amazing Conversation
Waiting for the next conversation on judiciary
Mr. Sibal is hosting quite well.
Very frank & enriching discussion. Hope the sitting judges watch it n show some 'suo moto' spine. 🤠
इस वीडिओ को बार बार देखें, चिन्तन करे और चर्चा करें, वह सब लोग जो देश की न्याय व्यवस्था में सुधार के बारे में सोचते हैं।
Welcome initiative.
Thankyou Kapil Sibal Sir for opening our eyes !
I hope and pray that at least you are not one of the tribe !! 😊
Supreme Court takes into account. Interests of state and not legal rights of individuals. That is the problem
Release Umar khalid