It's been one year since I got my 2002 grand marquis, 60k miles on it. The last owner was an old lady, but a friend of her who is a mechanic was taking care of it. He was putting 5w 30 on it and suggested me to keep using the same. The motor goes smooth, and I get around 17 Mpg city/28 Mpg hwy I live in Guadalajara, Mexico, On summer we reach around 100 F and on winter the coldest we get is around 35 F, no snow
I just switched to Pennzoil ultra Platinum full synthetic 5w-20, we have all 5 seasons ok in one day over here in Chicago 😅 I'm keeping my 04 Marquis til I die. Thanks for the video and your content is valuable.respect
I had to buy motor craft 5w30 for my 2005 CVPI because 5w20 was nowhere to be found during Covid. I had an oil leaking coming from the main seal and it went away once I started using 5w30
I've been using 5w-20 which is the spec on the 2003, 2008, and 2010 that I owned so I never had to question whether I should be using something different. If I had an older one that said to use 10w-30 or 5w-30 I would probably still use that despite the TSB since it doesn't appear that the switch to 5w-20 was for any reason other than fuel economy.
I've always used 5W20, but I know that Fleet Services for Marion County, Indiana, uses 10W30 synthetic blend on all their CVPI, and we still have 02, 03 some 04, 07, 08 as Pool cars, and 09-11 are issued to Officers there are plenty of 2011's. They do use 5W30 on the Interceptors Sedans and Utilities and 5W20 on all Chargers... I asked a foreman about this, and his answer was not really convincing. He said, "the crown vics will consume less oil with 10W30 when idling for an extended period of time." I don't know about that, lol
Right on Arnaldo, Thanks for watching, and the good feedback. The majority of all of the 4.6L Panther car owners down bellow have commented they ignore the manufacturer recommendation of 5W-20, and to use 5W-30. As far as running 10W-30 in a car that calls for 5W-20 while the car is under manufacturer warranty... I can see a dealer denying a warranty claim for an engine if they have the oil tested, and find out it was the wrong viscosity. Btw, are you a fleet maintenance manager for a government agency, (just wondering)? -Chuck
excelent info..this proves that sometimes you dont have to use the oil that the owners manual recommends 10 0r 15 years ago,,but makers update and recomend the best viscosity oil now...nice cam it zooms and focus automatically when you bring the paper close to it
On my 01 TC (I don't have anymore, manual said 5w-30) I have always used my 5w-30 on my '03 and '06 MGM as well as my '11 TC. Fordtecmaculoco has always said disregard the 5w-20 on the 4.6 and always use 5w-30.
Yo Uncle, I think we're all pretty much in agreement the 30 offers greater protection with a minor, minor reduction in fuel economy. And of course I think Brian is right. However, I wonder if openly oposing the manufacturer has opened anyone up to litigation liability. -Chuck
Yo Yousuf, Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. What type of climate do you operate your 2011 Vic in? (Hot / Normal / Cold climate?) Also is that 650,000 km (429,000 miles) on the original engine? I hope to make it to that mileage. I wonder if anyone has tested the fuel economy difference of the two grades (5w20 vs 5w30) in a Panther car. That would be really good info. -Chuck
Panzer Platform yes 429,000 miles on the original motor and transmission. im in Toronto Canada which is considered sever duty due to our harsh winter months. I run 5w30 year round Sorry for the late reply
I've got a 2008 CVPI with 2500 running hours and 215,000 miles on the original engine, I always use 5W-30 synthetic. I live in South Texas and even in 100+ temps my Vic never has any issues.
We used 5w-30 motor craft with kn oil filters my 2004 patrol car we auctioned it running and driving with 300k I drove it since new. I noticed little bit better fuel economy with 5w-20 but not enough to justify it the 5w-30 little thicker little more protection only thing that we replaced was rear end was rebuild and intake blue other then that solid 300k with minimum maintenance. The taxi company’s we sold them to used 5-20 conventional and they drove crown vics 500k
I have a 08 p71 with 245,000 and I use Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 with Lucas Full Synthetic Oil Stabilizer. I use 10w30 because it has a slight lifter rattle at start-up. From 5w20 I worked up to 10w30. Rattle didn't go away fully but it doesn't do it all the time now at start-up.
@@canadianmarauder1923 I have 3 total. 2 2011's and 1 2008 and one of the 11's has that issue. Just haven't got around to having them replaced. But I believe it's the lifters it only does it for about a second or 2 at start-up then goes away. Almost like a dry start or how it sounds when u change the oil.
In my 2009 p71 I use castrol 5w30 high mileage and the difference that I noticed is with the castrol the engine works smother and quite I just keep the motorcraft oil filter
I’m running the same combo in my 07 Lincoln Mark LT pickup with the 5.4 Triton. When I ran 5w20 Motorcraft synthetic blend oil with the Motorcraft filter, I noticed my engine seems to idle a little rough and I noticed the motor had a slight marble sound at idle. So I switched to Castrol 5w30 synthetic blend with Motorcraft filter and it made a huge difference. My engine is really quiet now and idles a lot smoother than before.
I have a 2002 Mercury Grand Marquis if I run 5w-20 Synthetic blend i get a lifter tick kinda sound in my valve covers, I live in Arizona so it gets pretty hot down here, I switched over to 5w-30 synthetic blend and the noise went away and the engine runs much better, I used to run 5w-20 Full Synthetic and it led to my oil sending unit to fail causing a huge oil leak, I only recommend using 5w-30 Synthetic blend, that’s what’s worked for me
My label says 5 w 30 and that's what I use. When they made the engine it was designed for 5 W30 . Cold winters, with some nights down to 0 F. Summer usually 80 to 90F
Yo Jag, Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. Before I made this video I thought people in colder climates would prefer the thinner 5W-20, and people in hotter climates would prefer the thicker 5W-30. But I was wrong, I'm learning a lot here. -Chuck
Chuck I never saw a ball drop! Very detailed and excellent video. I didnt realize the viscosity could impact the overall fuel economy! My strategy has always been a very simplistic one. I use thicker oil on what I deem an "older worn out engine." I'm probably totally wrong about that that though. It just stands to reason to me that the older an engine gets, the more it can benefit from a thicker oil. I was on Valvoline's website the other day and they actually concurred with that mentality but also deferred people to their manufacturer's guidelines. In all probability, I should probably be using a lighter weight oil. But having said that, I have run 10w30 in the 2006 Mercury since I bought it in May of last year and I also ran it in the 2000 P71 for the year I owned it, and I have not suffered any noticable issues. However I did not do a fuel economy comparison. If I'm being honest I'm always far more concerned with performance than fuel economy. A fault of my youth...😅
Right on Harrison. Thanks for the good feedback, and letting us know 10W-30 Full Synthetic works just fine in these cars. Oh yeah, I just realized I made another video answering a Panther Car Owner that lives in Saudi Arabia. He's got an '08 Grand Marquis, and they don't sell the Ford Motorcraft Oil that he prefers to use (10W-40). So he was asking about a particular Diesel engine oil was safe to use. I'll email you the details. It was pretty interesting what I found out trying to answer his question. -Chuck
I use a 5w 30 high mileage full synthetic on my 1999 lincoln town car and it runs pretty good but a 12.6mi per gal. I also live in Florida with mostly very hot sunny days
Right on. I've heard from Mechanics in person and on TH-cam that using thin 5w20 causes cam phaser issues in Ford engines They recommend using 5w30 regardless of what the manual says.
Heres something to look up...ford made a mercury marauder in the early 2000s....our crown vic's and marquis's have a 4.6 single overhead came ...putting out about 225 horsepower...then they have 4.6 police versions..single over head cam with 250 horsepower...the marauder has essentially the cobra 4.6 twin overhead cam..no super charger no turbo charger ....its listed at 315 to 325 horsepower...the experts say ford is low balling those numbers...they say minimum of 350 horsepower...and still with that engine Ford recommends 5w20...
Nice video, and I use 0W-20 Synthetic motor oil. First, the only reason Ford, or any automaker switched from 5W-30 to 5W-20 is solely for fuel economy. The oil pump has to work a lot less to pump the oil. Since most IC (Internal Combustion) engines have mechanical oil pumps, that means less friction from the oil pump as well as less friction from the piston rings\cylinder walls. Will 5W-20 adequately lubricate? Yes, under normal driving conditions. Remember that the definition of lubrication in an IC engine is the flow of oil over surfaces, and the majority of engine wear happens upon engine startup. If you drive the vehicle in any motorsport’s environments, you’ll want to use the 5W-30 then. Our cars have nice oil coolers, but they are more oil temperature maintainers then straight coolers. The target oil temperature for engine oil in an IC engine is 212-degree F. So, just because your coolant is up to operating temperature, doesn’t mean your engine oil is. It actually takes your engine oil longer to warm up than your coolant. Please don’t be taken in by those “Taxi cab fleet” oil testing scenarios. Although it’s a lot of stop and go driving, they run 24/7 so the engine oil is almost always up to operating temperature. In reality, they see less engine wear than your typical daily or less driver does if properly maintained. Any engine that requires 5W something, can use 0W something since it flows better at colder temperatures. Anyone that says they threw a bearing because they switched to 0W something because it was too thin had an engine that was already worn out and ready to grenade. It’s the reason that they started to heat up the engine oil in WWII fighters prior to starting them just to get them to turn over when cold. Now for the “Synthetic Blend” part. Either use straight conventional oil or straight synthetic oil. A “Synthetic Blend” oil is a waste of money because you never know how much “Synthetic” you are actually getting. In reality, you pay a premium for very little “Synthetic” as there is no standard beyond it has to have some “Synthetic” in it. In the grand scheme of things, “Synthetic” oil is not really cost prohibitive compared to engine hard part failure repair. Even at $15 some a quart for true “Synthetic” motor oil. Seriously, people pay more for bottled filtered tap water. Link that explains engine oil & lubrication basics better than I can - bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/
@@highrzr Yo Rzr, Much better. Thanks for being a good sport. lol Btw, if you want to enter the latest giveaway, go leave a comment on that video. -Chuck
I use Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20 with FL-820S filters in both a 2007 Town Car and 2004 Marauder. Here in the Detroit area, we get all four seasons in one day sometimes! Never a problem. Thanks for the in depth video with good, solid sources. Interesting to see how Ford makes changes.
Yo Won, Thanks for the feedback. I really appreciate it. Btw, what issue were you having with your Town Car that warranted the use of an oil additive? And how do you know the oil additive is actually providing any benefit? -Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform hi, again. Mine is over 297k miles and I had replaced timing chain assembly and tune ups. But the ticking noise was still there. My previous '92 had same treatment what I am serving my current '05. I don't have any written data but it works for me.. Thank you , Chuck
Greetings I am using this 15W50 oil in my grand Marquis 1999 and it runs above 600 kilometers on the temperature in my country KSA is around 50 degrees Celsius.
I have a 2000 crown victoria LX 307000 km on the odometer i was running full synthetic 5w30 but switched to full synth 5w20 i live in Alberta 35° C to -45°C summer to winter dependingon how harsh the winter is .after watching this i think i will use 5w20 in colder months and trusty 5w30 warmer season . Ihad an issue one winter my oil gauge would go to zero unless i was raising the idle in park or driving the car it was extremely cold i switched to 5w20 and the problem went away . Sometimes these vehicles are self healing it seems 😂 cheers 🍻
Thank you for the video, we have 2 crown vics one uses 10w30 and one uses 5w30 (both 2011) no problems on both of them. The 10w30 has 360k KM on it and the 5w30 has 260k KM on it. They really are great engines just change the oil regularly (altho the 10w30 CV sometimes runs 15k KMs between changes) Thanks again
I have an 09 Grand Marquis and I use 5w20 as the manual says. The manual also says to change the oil every 7500 miles, which I've been doing. However, I feel like that's a long interval for oil. Will it hurt anything if I change the oil at half that interval?? Maybe every 3000 miles.
Thanks for watching. Page 5 of the 2009 Mercury Grand Marquis Scheduled Maintenance Guide says; Maximum Oil Change Interval: Normal Schedule: 7,500 Miles or 6 Months whichever occurs first. Special Operating Conditions: 5,000 Miles, 6 Months, or 200 hours of engine operation whichever occurs first, (refer to page 42). The Scheduled Maintenance Guide is a different book from the Owners Manual. Here is a link to the SMG; www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/09frdmg2e.pdf Here is a link to the Owners Manual; www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/09croog2e.pdf Oil change interval is different for every application. For example my 2010 MGM is driven 5K Miles per year. I change the oil with “full synthetic” every 6 Months. -Chuck
Been doing a lot of research on whether or not I should switch to 5w30 I’m coming up on 200k miles on my 09 fusion, been using 5w20 and I’ll be honest, I push that car really hard, I don’t drive often like every single day, but when I do drive, I drive hard or either hour trips, and the temperature is very bi polar, very hot or very cold, or even perfect in the middle weather, she runs like a champ, so I’m not sure if switching to 5w30 will help for long term life efficiency, but as the old saying goes “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”😅
That was very interesting but I can’t really give you any long term results cause I’m new to the panther platform. 04 marquis 272000kms Ford 5w20 semi-synthetic. Bought last November at 271000kms. Had the startup rattle a few times but has disappeared lately. 03 marauder 187000kms 5w20 synthetic. I put 8000kms on it then it started the famous dohc head tick and it’s in a million pieces right now. Neither of these cars were running when I bought them so they were not well cared for.
Yo C Rauder, Thanks for the feedback. BTW, I used the Motorcraft Syn BLEND for 16 years, (2004-2019). I thought it was "SEMI" as well. It's definitely not. That's part of the reason I switched to 100% full synthetic. There's nothing wrong with the Motorcraft oil, I would just prefer to know the exact content of synthetic vs. Conventional in my engine oil. The Motorcraft remains to be unknown of its ratio of syn vs conventional "blend". -Chuck -Chuck
Well I always enjoy your in depth reviews on the things we need to know. It seems in more recent decades, the heavier weight oils are going the way of the dodo bird. As a kid, I remember my dad consistently stocking his work shop shelf with 10w-40. How times have changed. 5w-20 Is what I use based on what it says on the oil cap. Glad to see that's still right... though that could change. Seems to me that as the oils have turned to more synthetic, the manufacturers have suggested thinner grades? Though I've also heard some people say that as engines age or get miles, you should thicken up to compensate for wear and looser tolerances. I dunno… sometimes I get so many different opinions on something, I don't know what to think anymore.
Yo John, Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. I've heard the same thing; "some people say that as engines age or get miles, you should thicken up to compensate for wear and looser tolerances" But, how will I know when to implement a strategy to compensate for this wear & looser tolerances? I'm hoping our resident Panther experts stop in, and shed some light on this matter. Btw, hit the enter key twice in a while, TH-cam doesn't charge extra for paragraphs. lol -Chuck
I'm running the 5w-20 conventional in my p71. The manual and oil cap state 5w-20 but not whether it should be synthetic or conventional. All my other cars state "synthetic only". This leads me to believe Ford does not require or even recommend synthetic. There was also an oil sticker on the windshield from the previous owner and it was changed at a quick lube with conventional. I always though 5w-20 was too thin and now we have better oils. (My BMW requires 0w-40 full synthetic) with no exceptions to be made. I was considering switching the Vic to synthetic because I believe in its superior protection and flow since I've always used it in every other vehicle I've owned since age 18. (Jason from the Engineering Explained you tube channel) did a very good video on conventional vs synthetic and the results speak for themselves. This backs up my results as well. The weather here in Missouri wildly fluctuates from day to day. Sometimes within the same day. Thus, I believe the 0w-40 application in the BMW is the best to handle the harsh temperature fluctuations. After a valve cover job, I may try 0w-40 or 5w-20 full synthetic in my Vic.
Yo Hollywood, Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it. Btw, hit the enter key twice in a while, TH-cam doesn't charge extra for paragraphs. lol -Chuck
It's all driven by CAFE fuel requirements. I ran full synthetic 5w30 for years in my 93 and 94 Mark VIII's and never had any problems. I run 5w30 in my 2006 Crown Vic. I just don't trust 5w20 in my non cam phaser cars. It's hotter than hell here in Kansas in the summertime. The 4.6 4 valve DOHC and 4.6 2 valve SOHC don't have cam phasers so 5w30 is fine for those engines. I don't have any experience with engines with cam phasers nor do I own any, so I'm not recommending 5w30 for those engines.
I just been wondering this since I took my 04 merc to ford they service it I guess change the oil too cause theres a sticker on it says 5w30 pennzoil but I go with castrol high miles 5w 20 been using it since I got the car. Also the reason I went to ford is cause I found out my blend door actuator went out got the part from A1 autos. Ford was going to charge me 1,200 so I went to my brothers mechanic charged me 550 works fine.
I switched to Valvoline restore and protect 5w30 my 1997 town car was burning half a quart every 3000 miles with the previous full synthetic oil. No oil consumption these past 9000 miles I change the oil every 4000 I plan on using the valvoline restore and protect for 5 oil changes then switching to penzoil ultra platinum 5w30
I'm about 6 months late to the discussion...but this video is exactly what I was looking for regarding my 1991 Crown Vic with the 302. I couldn't figure out why each current source told me to use 5w30, but both the shop manual and owner's guide recommended 10w30. I put a 5w30 synblend (Castrol) in at the last oil change, and it does burn oil (approx. a quart every 1,000 miles). Motorcraft Fl-1A filter. The car came from Virginia, and I'm in New Jersey so both fairly temperate climates. The older gentleman I bought it from claimed he always used 5w30 Castrol conventional oil, but this is no longer in production. I'm wondering if I switched to either to conventional or 10w30 (or both) this would remedy or help the problem...can't hurt to try right?
Right on Alex, Find out what works best for your intended application. I have a friend who had a Town Car with that 302 engine, and as the engine wore out he switched to thicker, and thicker oil until there wasn't enough compression to start the engine. The last oil he used was 20W-50. -Chuck
Hey chuck my advice about engine oil and viscosity I had my 07 grand marquis from augast 2013 and it had 100k kilometers on the odometer Right now it has 360k kilometers I uses 10w30 motorcraft synthetic blend oil last year i have changed the valve stem seals and offcourse i need to remove the valve cover and the engine still looks clean and shiny ( from the inside) And from my experience i just bought 08 gmc sierra three months ago with 285k kilometers on the odometer the previous owner uses 10w40 oil for long time as i knew from the maintenance stickers , I changed the oil to the recommended viscosity for gm trucks 5w30 and travelled with the truck for 5k kilometers and used it locally for anothe 6 kilometers i have change the oil three times now with the manufacturer recommended viscosity and everything looks ok with the engine so what i want to say is stick with the manufacturer oil viscosity unless you hear non wanted noise from the engine
Right on Hanna, What kind of car do you have (YEAR MAKE MODEL)? Also take a look down below in the comments. You'll find some good info from the guys. -Chuck
Thanks, man. Guys, just follow the manufacturer's recommendation. They do a lot of extensive testing at the level of engineering. it is way more complicated than this!
5w20 is better for p71s, quicker up the pump, most wear on the engine is during cold starts, the faster the oil gets there, the more protection on valvetrains, therefor use 5w20, change every 5k miles, and smile.
And All Ford F-150 Pickups with the Modular 4.6 & 5.4 Triton Engines... No Cheat Sheet needed... for maximum engine protection ALWAYS USE the 5W-30 Full Synthetic
Going from 5w30 to 5w20 is all U S Goverment to get better mpg [ Read C.A.F.E. ] I HAD a 99 e150 with the 4.6. It had 33k when i bought it in 02. I put 15w50 M1 in it and changed it every 10k. We sold it in 2018 with over 200k on it, It still ran like watch, no cam chain noise. I ran the 15w50 year round here in Minn, no block heater or garage. It started down to -30f, with not a sound from the motor, just the fan. I had the plugs changed around 100k and at 190k, thats all i had done to the motor.
Right on Ned, Thanks for watching. Take a quick browse of the comments bellow. I think most of the guys would agree 5W-30 would be 100% safe. Any thicker than that, use your best judgement. -Chuck
Can you please tell me what if I use 10w40 Petronas API sn synthetic blend instead of 10w30 API sn Motorcraft synthetic blend? Remember my car mercury grand marquis 2008 with 387000 km.. Live in summer 45 Celsius degree today.. I just wanna make sure that oil 10w40 Petronas is perfect than Motorcraft 10w30 cuz I never found 10w40 Motorcraft premium oil in our market here in Saudi Arabia.. Appreciate your help
Yo Ibrahim, I got the email link you sent about the Petronas 10W-40 Engine Oil. It looks like that oil is designed for diesel engines. I'm not familiar with running diesel engine oil in a gasoline engine, so I'm going to have to research this to give you an accurate answer. Depending on what I find out, I just may answer this question in my ongoing "Viewer Question Series". So hang on, and stay tuned. lol -Chuck
Right on Nick, Thanks for watching. I recommend everyone do their own research, use their best judgement, and do what's best for their application. -Chuck
I live where it's hot, have a '05 Crown Vic Interceptor with 140,000 miles. Been using 5w 20 full Synthetic, should I start using 5W 30 Full Synthetic ???
Always run 5w-20 in your OHC Fords unless otherwise specified. My 2v 4.6 is at 212k running STRONG. I'm not easy on this car even when it's hot out. I beat it up and it laughs at me.
Right on Pantera, I just looked up the API Service designation of the Rotella T6, and it says CK-4. I don't know if that's compatible with our Panther cars. But don't let me stop you. -Chuck
Shell Rotella T6 is a diesel oil and is not rated by the API for gasoline engines. The only exception would be motorcycles with wet clutches which require a JASO "MA" or "MA2" rated oil, which Shell Rotella is. Do not use this oil in your gasoline-powered automobile.
5w20 may give you better fuel economy early on in life, but with increased wear may cause worse fuel economy than an engine running 5w30 its whole life.
5w 50 on my built 4.6 motor like the coyotes maybe even 0w 10 jus maybe I remember changing my Vic and using 5w 20 was like water I use full synthetic it was still clean after 6k miles but man I said this oil is so thin it can't protect nothing 5w 20 or 30 are so close it wont make a big difference there both thin tight clearance oils
It's been one year since I got my 2002 grand marquis, 60k miles on it. The last owner was an old lady, but a friend of her who is a mechanic was taking care of it. He was putting 5w 30 on it and suggested me to keep using the same. The motor goes smooth, and I get around 17 Mpg city/28 Mpg hwy
I live in Guadalajara, Mexico, On summer we reach around 100 F and on winter the coldest we get is around 35 F, no snow
Yo Vale,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
-Chuck
I just switched to Pennzoil ultra Platinum full synthetic 5w-20, we have all 5 seasons ok in one day over here in Chicago 😅 I'm keeping my 04 Marquis til I die. Thanks for the video and your content is valuable.respect
Yo Powertech,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
And thanks for the kind words.
-Chuck
@williamreeve5376like a champ 💪🏼
I had to buy motor craft 5w30 for my 2005 CVPI because 5w20 was nowhere to be found during Covid. I had an oil leaking coming from the main seal and it went away once I started using 5w30
Right on AB,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
I've been using 5w-20 which is the spec on the 2003, 2008, and 2010 that I owned so I never had to question whether I should be using something different. If I had an older one that said to use 10w-30 or 5w-30 I would probably still use that despite the TSB since it doesn't appear that the switch to 5w-20 was for any reason other than fuel economy.
Yo Gary,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
I was sure you would have contemplated the thicker 5W-30 due to the Texas heat.
-Chuck
Because of that he should use 5-30
I have a 2010 crown vic P71 been using 5w-30 syn blend in the fine state of PA...no issues. Thanks for your work!
Yo David,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
-Chuck
5/20 just to satisfy cafe standards. 5/30 if you plan on keeping your vehicle.
Right on Jim,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
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I've always used 5W20, but I know that Fleet Services for Marion County, Indiana, uses 10W30 synthetic blend on all their CVPI, and we still have 02, 03 some 04, 07, 08 as Pool cars, and 09-11 are issued to Officers there are plenty of 2011's. They do use 5W30 on the Interceptors Sedans and Utilities and 5W20 on all Chargers... I asked a foreman about this, and his answer was not really convincing. He said, "the crown vics will consume less oil with 10W30 when idling for an extended period of time." I don't know about that, lol
Right on Arnaldo,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
The majority of all of the 4.6L Panther car owners down bellow have commented they ignore the manufacturer recommendation of 5W-20, and to use 5W-30.
As far as running 10W-30 in a car that calls for 5W-20 while the car is under manufacturer warranty...
I can see a dealer denying a warranty claim for an engine if they have the oil tested, and find out it was the wrong viscosity.
Btw, are you a fleet maintenance manager for a government agency, (just wondering)?
-Chuck
excelent info..this proves that sometimes you dont have to use the oil that the owners manual recommends 10 0r 15 years ago,,but makers update and recomend the best viscosity oil now...nice cam it zooms and focus automatically when you bring the paper close to it
Yo Best,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
On my 01 TC (I don't have anymore, manual said 5w-30) I have always used my 5w-30 on my '03 and '06 MGM as well as my '11 TC. Fordtecmaculoco has always said disregard the 5w-20 on the 4.6 and always use 5w-30.
Yo Uncle,
I think we're all pretty much in agreement the 30 offers greater protection with a minor, minor reduction in fuel economy.
And of course I think Brian is right.
However, I wonder if openly oposing the manufacturer has opened anyone up to litigation liability.
-Chuck
More protection with the 5w30, I’m willing to sacrifice a little fuel economy for a longer lasting engine.
On my 2011 Crown Victoria with 650k km
Yo Yousuf,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
What type of climate do you operate your 2011 Vic in?
(Hot / Normal / Cold climate?)
Also is that 650,000 km (429,000 miles) on the original engine?
I hope to make it to that mileage.
I wonder if anyone has tested the fuel economy difference of the two grades (5w20 vs 5w30) in a Panther car.
That would be really good info.
-Chuck
Panzer Platform yes 429,000 miles on the original motor and transmission. im in Toronto Canada which is considered sever duty due to our harsh winter months. I run 5w30 year round
Sorry for the late reply
Wow
I've got a 2008 CVPI with 2500 running hours and 215,000 miles on the original engine, I always use 5W-30 synthetic.
I live in South Texas and even in 100+ temps my Vic never has any issues.
Right on Salmon,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
Makes sense
We used 5w-30 motor craft with kn oil filters my 2004 patrol car we auctioned it running and driving with 300k I drove it since new. I noticed little bit better fuel economy with 5w-20 but not enough to justify it the 5w-30 little thicker little more protection only thing that we replaced was rear end was rebuild and intake blue other then that solid 300k with minimum maintenance. The taxi company’s we sold them to used 5-20 conventional and they drove crown vics 500k
Right on O425,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
I have a 2001 Crown Victoria. I use 10w-30 with
271222 miles. it's the original engine I live in Saudi Arabia and its weather is hot.
Yo Sanad,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
No snow lol
I have a 08 p71 with 245,000 and I use Mobil 1 High Mileage 10w30 with Lucas Full Synthetic Oil Stabilizer. I use 10w30 because it has a slight lifter rattle at start-up. From 5w20 I worked up to 10w30. Rattle didn't go away fully but it doesn't do it all the time now at start-up.
Yo Dameria,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
Is that the original engine in your 2008?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Yes it is the original engine, tranny, rearend etc. No leaks. Only has like 1200 hours on engine
Dameria Pridgon I was thinkin it might not be “lifter rattle” My bet is one of the timing chain tensioners is leaking.
@@canadianmarauder1923 I have 3 total. 2 2011's and 1 2008 and one of the 11's has that issue. Just haven't got around to having them replaced. But I believe it's the lifters it only does it for about a second or 2 at start-up then goes away. Almost like a dry start or how it sounds when u change the oil.
@@canadianmarauder1923 Yep and some time a heavy oil will blow the rest of seal out.
In my 2009 p71 I use castrol 5w30 high mileage and the difference that I noticed is with the castrol the engine works smother and quite I just keep the motorcraft oil filter
Right on Tino,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I’m running the same combo in my 07 Lincoln Mark LT pickup with the 5.4 Triton. When I ran 5w20 Motorcraft synthetic blend oil with the Motorcraft filter, I noticed my engine seems to idle a little rough and I noticed the motor had a slight marble sound at idle.
So I switched to Castrol 5w30 synthetic blend with Motorcraft filter and it made a huge difference. My engine is really quiet now and idles a lot smoother than before.
I have a 2002 Mercury Grand Marquis if I run 5w-20 Synthetic blend i get a lifter tick kinda sound in my valve covers, I live in Arizona so it gets pretty hot down here, I switched over to 5w-30 synthetic blend and the noise went away and the engine runs much better, I used to run 5w-20 Full Synthetic and it led to my oil sending unit to fail causing a huge oil leak, I only recommend using 5w-30 Synthetic blend, that’s what’s worked for me
Yo Red,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
My label says 5 w 30 and that's what I use. When they made the engine it was designed for 5 W30 . Cold winters, with some nights down to 0 F. Summer usually 80 to 90F
Right on Josh,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I stick with 5-20 because we have Temps in the high 90s to 105 here in Texas.
Yo Jag,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
Before I made this video I thought people in colder climates would prefer the thinner 5W-20, and people in hotter climates would prefer the thicker 5W-30.
But I was wrong, I'm learning a lot here.
-Chuck
Chuck I never saw a ball drop! Very detailed and excellent video. I didnt realize the viscosity could impact the overall fuel economy! My strategy has always been a very simplistic one. I use thicker oil on what I deem an "older worn out engine." I'm probably totally wrong about that that though. It just stands to reason to me that the older an engine gets, the more it can benefit from a thicker oil. I was on Valvoline's website the other day and they actually concurred with that mentality but also deferred people to their manufacturer's guidelines. In all probability, I should probably be using a lighter weight oil.
But having said that, I have run 10w30 in the 2006 Mercury since I bought it in May of last year and I also ran it in the 2000 P71 for the year I owned it, and I have not suffered any noticable issues. However I did not do a fuel economy comparison. If I'm being honest I'm always far more concerned with performance than fuel economy. A fault of my youth...😅
Right on Harrison.
Thanks for the good feedback, and letting us know 10W-30 Full Synthetic works just fine in these cars.
Oh yeah, I just realized I made another video answering a Panther Car Owner that lives in Saudi Arabia.
He's got an '08 Grand Marquis, and they don't sell the Ford Motorcraft Oil that he prefers to use (10W-40).
So he was asking about a particular Diesel engine oil was safe to use.
I'll email you the details. It was pretty interesting what I found out trying to answer his question.
-Chuck
I use a 5w 30 high mileage full synthetic on my 1999 lincoln town car and it runs pretty good but a 12.6mi per gal. I also live in Florida with mostly very hot sunny days
Right on AK,
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
5W-20 full synthetic in my ‘07 P71. 88,000 miles and it’s been in the Northeast its entire life.
You Rick,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
-Chuck
Right on. I've heard from Mechanics in person and on TH-cam that using thin 5w20 causes cam phaser issues in Ford engines They recommend using 5w30 regardless of what the manual says.
Right Martin,
Thanks for watching.
This 5W-20 vs. 5W-30 is a "raging debate".
I wonder what Pasta Senpai would say. lol
-Chuck
Heres something to look up...ford made a mercury marauder in the early 2000s....our crown vic's and marquis's have a 4.6 single overhead came ...putting out about 225 horsepower...then they have 4.6 police versions..single over head cam with 250 horsepower...the marauder has essentially the cobra 4.6 twin overhead cam..no super charger no turbo charger ....its listed at 315 to 325 horsepower...the experts say ford is low balling those numbers...they say minimum of 350 horsepower...and still with that engine Ford recommends 5w20...
Right on Randy,
Those are good points.
-Chuck
Nice video, and I use 0W-20 Synthetic motor oil.
First, the only reason Ford, or any automaker switched from 5W-30 to 5W-20 is solely for fuel economy. The oil pump has to work a lot less to pump the oil. Since most IC (Internal Combustion) engines have mechanical oil pumps, that means less friction from the oil pump as well as less friction from the piston rings\cylinder walls. Will 5W-20 adequately lubricate? Yes, under normal driving conditions. Remember that the definition of lubrication in an IC engine is the flow of oil over surfaces, and the majority of engine wear happens upon engine startup. If you drive the vehicle in any motorsport’s environments, you’ll want to use the 5W-30 then. Our cars have nice oil coolers, but they are more oil temperature maintainers then straight coolers. The target oil temperature for engine oil in an IC engine is 212-degree F. So, just because your coolant is up to operating temperature, doesn’t mean your engine oil is. It actually takes your engine oil longer to warm up than your coolant.
Please don’t be taken in by those “Taxi cab fleet” oil testing scenarios. Although it’s a lot of stop and go driving, they run 24/7 so the engine oil is almost always up to operating temperature. In reality, they see less engine wear than your typical daily or less driver does if properly maintained. Any engine that requires 5W something, can use 0W something since it flows better at colder temperatures. Anyone that says they threw a bearing because they switched to 0W something because it was too thin had an engine that was already worn out and ready to grenade. It’s the reason that they started to heat up the engine oil in WWII fighters prior to starting them just to get them to turn over when cold.
Now for the “Synthetic Blend” part. Either use straight conventional oil or straight synthetic oil. A “Synthetic Blend” oil is a waste of money because you never know how much “Synthetic” you are actually getting. In reality, you pay a premium for very little “Synthetic” as there is no standard beyond it has to have some “Synthetic” in it. In the grand scheme of things, “Synthetic” oil is not really cost prohibitive compared to engine hard part failure repair. Even at $15 some a quart for true “Synthetic” motor oil. Seriously, people pay more for bottled filtered tap water.
Link that explains engine oil & lubrication basics better than I can - bobistheoilguy.com/motor-oil-101/
@@highrzr
Yo Rzr,
Much better. Thanks for being a good sport. lol
Btw, if you want to enter the latest giveaway, go leave a comment on that video.
-Chuck
I put 5w-30 in my 2011 police interceptor and it made my oil pressure gauge act funny. It takes a while for it to reach its normal level
Thanks for watching, and the good feedback.
-Chuck
I use Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5W-20 with FL-820S filters in both a 2007 Town Car and 2004 Marauder. Here in the Detroit area, we get all four seasons in one day sometimes! Never a problem. Thanks for the in depth video with good, solid sources. Interesting to see how Ford makes changes.
Yo Eccentric,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
And thanks for the kind words.
-Chuck
2005 TC , 5w-20 with a qt of the Lucas oil additive, Seattle. So far works good.
Yo Won,
Thanks for the feedback.
I really appreciate it.
Btw, what issue were you having with your Town Car that warranted the use of an oil additive?
And how do you know the oil additive is actually providing any benefit?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform hi, again. Mine is over 297k miles and I had replaced timing chain assembly and tune ups. But the ticking noise was still there. My previous '92 had same treatment what I am serving my current '05. I don't have any written data but it works for me.. Thank you , Chuck
Greetings I am using this 15W50 oil in my grand Marquis 1999 and it runs above 600 kilometers on the temperature in my country KSA is around 50 degrees Celsius.
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I have a 2000 crown victoria LX 307000 km on the odometer i was running full synthetic 5w30 but switched to full synth 5w20 i live in Alberta 35° C to -45°C summer to winter dependingon how harsh the winter is .after watching this i think i will use 5w20 in colder months and trusty 5w30 warmer season . Ihad an issue one winter my oil gauge would go to zero unless i was raising the idle in park or driving the car it was extremely cold i switched to 5w20 and the problem went away . Sometimes these vehicles are self healing it seems 😂 cheers 🍻
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Thank you for the video, we have 2 crown vics one uses 10w30 and one uses 5w30 (both 2011) no problems on both of them. The 10w30 has 360k KM on it and the 5w30 has 260k KM on it. They really are great engines just change the oil regularly (altho the 10w30 CV sometimes runs 15k KMs between changes)
Thanks again
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
I have an 09 Grand Marquis and I use 5w20 as the manual says. The manual also says to change the oil every 7500 miles, which I've been doing. However, I feel like that's a long interval for oil. Will it hurt anything if I change the oil at half that interval?? Maybe every 3000 miles.
Thanks for watching.
Page 5 of the 2009 Mercury Grand Marquis Scheduled Maintenance Guide says;
Maximum Oil Change Interval:
Normal Schedule: 7,500 Miles or 6 Months whichever occurs first.
Special Operating Conditions: 5,000 Miles, 6 Months, or 200 hours of engine operation whichever occurs first, (refer to page 42).
The Scheduled Maintenance Guide is a different book from the Owners Manual.
Here is a link to the SMG;
www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/09frdmg2e.pdf
Here is a link to the Owners Manual;
www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/09croog2e.pdf
Oil change interval is different for every application.
For example my 2010 MGM is driven 5K Miles per year.
I change the oil with “full synthetic” every 6 Months.
-Chuck
Been doing a lot of research on whether or not I should switch to 5w30
I’m coming up on 200k miles on my 09 fusion, been using 5w20 and I’ll be honest, I push that car really hard, I don’t drive often like every single day, but when I do drive, I drive hard or either hour trips, and the temperature is very bi polar, very hot or very cold, or even perfect in the middle weather, she runs like a champ, so I’m not sure if switching to 5w30 will help for long term life efficiency, but as the old saying goes “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”😅
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
That was very interesting but I can’t really give you any long term results cause I’m new to the panther platform. 04 marquis 272000kms Ford 5w20 semi-synthetic. Bought last November at 271000kms. Had the startup rattle a few times but has disappeared lately. 03 marauder 187000kms 5w20 synthetic. I put 8000kms on it then it started the famous dohc head tick and it’s in a million pieces right now. Neither of these cars were running when I bought them so they were not well cared for.
Yo C Rauder,
Thanks for the feedback.
BTW, I used the Motorcraft Syn BLEND for 16 years, (2004-2019).
I thought it was "SEMI" as well. It's definitely not. That's part of the reason I switched to 100% full synthetic.
There's nothing wrong with the Motorcraft oil, I would just prefer to know the exact content of synthetic vs. Conventional in my engine oil. The Motorcraft remains to be unknown of its ratio of syn vs conventional "blend".
-Chuck
-Chuck
Amazing video. Thank you very much for this information.
Yo Annex,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
I got a town car with 51K
First oil change I did my self used 5-30 will keep using it...
Mobil 1 .
Also Costco oil is good as well Kirkland .
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Well I always enjoy your in depth reviews on the things we need to know. It seems in more recent decades, the heavier weight oils are going the way of the dodo bird. As a kid, I remember my dad consistently stocking his work shop shelf with 10w-40. How times have changed. 5w-20 Is what I use based on what it says on the oil cap. Glad to see that's still right... though that could change. Seems to me that as the oils have turned to more synthetic, the manufacturers have suggested thinner grades? Though I've also heard some people say that as engines age or get miles, you should thicken up to compensate for wear and looser tolerances. I dunno… sometimes I get so many different opinions on something, I don't know what to think anymore.
Yo John,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
I've heard the same thing;
"some people say that as engines age or get miles, you should thicken up to compensate for wear and looser tolerances"
But, how will I know when to implement a strategy to compensate for this wear & looser tolerances?
I'm hoping our resident Panther experts stop in, and shed some light on this matter.
Btw, hit the enter key twice in a while, TH-cam doesn't charge extra for paragraphs. lol
-Chuck
I'm running the 5w-20 conventional in my p71. The manual and oil cap state 5w-20 but not whether it should be synthetic or conventional. All my other cars state "synthetic only". This leads me to believe Ford does not require or even recommend synthetic. There was also an oil sticker on the windshield from the previous owner and it was changed at a quick lube with conventional.
I always though 5w-20 was too thin and now we have better oils. (My BMW requires 0w-40 full synthetic) with no exceptions to be made. I was considering switching the Vic to synthetic because I believe in its superior protection and flow since I've always used it in every other vehicle I've owned since age 18. (Jason from the Engineering Explained you tube channel) did a very good video on conventional vs synthetic and the results speak for themselves. This backs up my results as well.
The weather here in Missouri wildly fluctuates from day to day. Sometimes within the same day. Thus, I believe the 0w-40 application in the BMW is the best to handle the harsh temperature fluctuations. After a valve cover job, I may try 0w-40 or 5w-20 full synthetic in my Vic.
Yo Hollywood,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
Btw, hit the enter key twice in a while, TH-cam doesn't charge extra for paragraphs. lol
-Chuck
It's all driven by CAFE fuel requirements. I ran full synthetic 5w30 for years in my 93 and 94 Mark VIII's and never had any problems. I run 5w30 in my 2006 Crown Vic. I just don't trust 5w20 in my non cam phaser cars. It's hotter than hell here in Kansas in the summertime. The 4.6 4 valve DOHC and 4.6 2 valve SOHC don't have cam phasers so 5w30 is fine for those engines. I don't have any experience with engines with cam phasers nor do I own any, so I'm not recommending 5w30 for those engines.
Right on JT,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I just been wondering this since I took my 04 merc to ford they service it I guess change the oil too cause theres a sticker on it says 5w30 pennzoil but I go with castrol high miles 5w 20 been using it since I got the car. Also the reason I went to ford is cause I found out my blend door actuator went out got the part from A1 autos. Ford was going to charge me 1,200 so I went to my brothers mechanic charged me 550 works fine.
Right on Captain,
Thanks for the good feedback.
-Chuck
I switched to Valvoline restore and protect 5w30 my 1997 town car was burning half a quart every 3000 miles with the previous full synthetic oil. No oil consumption these past 9000 miles I change the oil every 4000 I plan on using the valvoline restore and protect for 5 oil changes then switching to penzoil ultra platinum 5w30
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I'm about 6 months late to the discussion...but this video is exactly what I was looking for regarding my 1991 Crown Vic with the 302. I couldn't figure out why each current source told me to use 5w30, but both the shop manual and owner's guide recommended 10w30. I put a 5w30 synblend (Castrol) in at the last oil change, and it does burn oil (approx. a quart every 1,000 miles). Motorcraft Fl-1A filter. The car came from Virginia, and I'm in New Jersey so both fairly temperate climates. The older gentleman I bought it from claimed he always used 5w30 Castrol conventional oil, but this is no longer in production. I'm wondering if I switched to either to conventional or 10w30 (or both) this would remedy or help the problem...can't hurt to try right?
Right on Alex,
Find out what works best for your intended application.
I have a friend who had a Town Car with that 302 engine, and as the engine wore out he switched to thicker, and thicker oil until there wasn't enough compression to start the engine. The last oil he used was 20W-50.
-Chuck
Hey chuck my advice about engine oil and viscosity
I had my 07 grand marquis from augast 2013 and it had 100k kilometers on the odometer
Right now it has 360k kilometers
I uses 10w30 motorcraft synthetic blend oil last year i have changed the valve stem seals and offcourse i need to remove the valve cover and the engine still looks clean and shiny ( from the inside)
And from my experience i just bought 08 gmc sierra three months ago with 285k kilometers on the odometer the previous owner uses 10w40 oil for long time as i knew from the maintenance stickers , I changed the oil to the recommended viscosity for gm trucks 5w30 and travelled with the truck for 5k kilometers and used it locally for anothe 6 kilometers i have change the oil three times now with the manufacturer recommended viscosity and everything looks ok with the engine so what i want to say is stick with the manufacturer oil viscosity unless you hear non wanted noise from the engine
Right on Mr. Bahrain,
Thanks for the good feedback.
-Chuck
I live in AZ, very hot during the summer, should I switches from 5W20 to 5W30? Thanks
Right on Hanna,
What kind of car do you have (YEAR MAKE MODEL)?
Also take a look down below in the comments.
You'll find some good info from the guys.
-Chuck
I run 5w30 in my 01 4.6 ... Castrol Synthetic Blend
Right on Jason,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I have a 2007 Town Car and live in HOT Arizon . . . was think 5W-30 better ?? thank you and good information
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Thanks, man.
Guys, just follow the manufacturer's recommendation. They do a lot of extensive testing at the level of engineering. it is way more complicated than this!
Right on Ibrahim,
Thanks watching.
-Chuck
5w20 is better for p71s, quicker up the pump, most wear on the engine is during cold starts, the faster the oil gets there, the more protection on valvetrains, therefor use 5w20, change every 5k miles, and smile.
Right on Billy,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
And All Ford F-150 Pickups with the Modular 4.6 & 5.4 Triton Engines... No Cheat Sheet needed... for maximum engine protection ALWAYS USE the 5W-30 Full Synthetic
Right on Will,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
Going from 5w30 to 5w20 is all U S Goverment to get better mpg [ Read C.A.F.E. ]
I HAD a 99 e150 with the 4.6. It had 33k when i bought it in 02. I put 15w50 M1 in it and changed it every 10k. We sold it in 2018 with over 200k on it, It still ran like watch, no cam chain noise. I ran the 15w50 year round here in Minn, no block heater or garage. It started down to -30f, with not a sound from the motor, just the fan. I had the plugs changed around 100k and at 190k, thats all i had done to the motor.
Right on Duane,
Thanks for the good feedback.
-Chuck
I have a 2011 Grand Marquis I live in Arizona. It gets up to 120 F in summer, what motor oil weight should I use in summer? 10w-30 0r 10w-40?
Right on Ned,
Thanks for watching.
Take a quick browse of the comments bellow.
I think most of the guys would agree 5W-30 would be 100% safe.
Any thicker than that, use your best judgement.
-Chuck
Can you please tell me what if I use 10w40 Petronas API sn synthetic blend instead of 10w30 API sn Motorcraft synthetic blend?
Remember my car mercury grand marquis 2008 with 387000 km..
Live in summer 45 Celsius degree today.. I just wanna make sure that oil 10w40 Petronas is perfect than Motorcraft 10w30 cuz I never found 10w40 Motorcraft premium oil in our market here in Saudi Arabia..
Appreciate your help
Yo Ibrahim,
I got the email link you sent about the Petronas 10W-40 Engine Oil.
It looks like that oil is designed for diesel engines.
I'm not familiar with running diesel engine oil in a gasoline engine, so I'm going to have to research this to give you an accurate answer.
Depending on what I find out, I just may answer this question in my ongoing "Viewer Question Series".
So hang on, and stay tuned. lol
-Chuck
I just got out from under my 2008 P71. I used full synth 5w30. Should I have used 5w20? Thank you for recording this video.
Right on Nick,
Thanks for watching.
I recommend everyone do their own research, use their best judgement, and do what's best for their application.
-Chuck
I live where it's hot, have a '05 Crown Vic Interceptor with 140,000 miles. Been using 5w 20 full Synthetic, should I start using 5W 30 Full Synthetic ???
Yo GG,
Thanks for stopping in.
Take a look at what the other guys are running in their Panther Cars in the comments down below.
-Chuck
I think I'm going to spin off this video
Right on Rich,
I would love that.
I left out a lot of information.
It'd be cool if you mentioned everything I failed to mention.
-Chuck
Always run 5w-20 in your OHC Fords unless otherwise specified. My 2v 4.6 is at 212k running STRONG.
I'm not easy on this car even when it's hot out. I beat it up and it laughs at me.
Right on Rhett,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
What about using Shell Rotella T6 Diesel oil in you CVPI?
Right on Pantera,
I just looked up the API Service designation of the Rotella T6, and it says CK-4.
I don't know if that's compatible with our Panther cars.
But don't let me stop you.
-Chuck
Shell Rotella T6 is a diesel oil and is not rated by the API for gasoline engines. The only exception would be motorcycles with wet clutches which require a JASO "MA" or "MA2" rated oil, which Shell Rotella is. Do not use this oil in your gasoline-powered automobile.
I’m living in Saudi Arabia whether 50℃
My car Crown victoria LX 2011
mileage ( 300.000)KM
please what kind oil should i but
Right on Abu,
Refer to your owners manual, and use your best judgement.
-Chuck
@@abu_LAMAR
Here you go;
www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/catalog/owner_guides/11croog3e.pdf
-Chuck
5w-30 full synthetic.
Right on Andreti,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
I stick to conventional 5W-20 per Ford manual
Right on Rick,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
Be careful higher viscosity will blow tensioner seal out if it's not in good condition. They all blow in time.
Yo Beast,
Thanks for stopping in.
-Chuck
520 to thin.......just to satisfy Cafe standards and save $$. Same motor in another country will call for 530 or 1030 lol
Right on Scott,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
5w20 may give you better fuel economy early on in life, but with increased wear may cause worse fuel economy than an engine running 5w30 its whole life.
Right on Chris,
Thanks for watching.
-Chuck
5w 50 on my built 4.6 motor like the coyotes maybe even 0w 10 jus maybe
I remember changing my Vic and using 5w 20 was like water I use full synthetic it was still clean after 6k miles but man I said this oil is so thin it can't protect nothing
5w 20 or 30 are so close it wont make a big difference there both thin tight clearance oils
Yo Big J,
Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
You're in Michigan right?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform yes sir Michigan I love it in the summer and hate it in the winter
5w20 ftw. 5w30 lowers the fuel economy.
Yo Travis,
Long time no see.
How much do you think it lowers the fuel economy?
-Chuck
@@PanzerPlatform Highway mileage doesn't seem to be affected much by city is definitely degraded. Maybe 3 mpg ?
Good job mane!
So you said you're using 5W-30 up in Wisconsin right?
-Chuck