Coached a 17 year old girl and her mom died after her first dose of chemo for stage 2 breast cancer. It still haunts me. We were out of state at a competition when she got sick. I had to tell her she had to immediately fly back home. Still tears me up to this day. Haunted by her screaming and begging me for things to be okay. My own daughter was the same age. The cancer didn’t kill her, the chemo did. The doctor admitted he was treating it very aggressively. For stage 2!
I'm so, so sorry for your and your friend's loss. Ultimately, it's a balance of risks. Staging is done based on what can be seen and what can be found in biopsies. However, it's since been found that small amounts of cancer cells can seed outside the primary site. Chemo is designed to kill those cells. Without it, unfortunately, someone with Stage 2 may find themselves with Stage 4 within a few years. Most cases of metastatic (stage 4) breast cancer happen this way. Unfortunately, the chemo doesn't always work for preventing this. But it drastically lowers the odds. Meanwhile, the chemo itself can cause toxicity up to and including fatal ones. But the odds of getting stage 4 (which isn't curable and has a median survival of about 3 years with chemo) without chemo were a lot higher than the odds of dying from chemo. So she did not die in vain from unnecessary treatment-it was just profoundly awful luck essentially.
Unfortunately, the doctors in that field are pushed to treat cancer with chemo or radiation or they’ll have their license revoked. The whole system is messed up.
@@kerrybrown4416 I work in oncology (RN) and that is actually a myth! Though some doctors do sorta hide behind it-not at my place but I’ve heard of this. At my institution and at most, a doctor can do anything if they can cite two peer reviewed sources about it. I’ve had plenty of patients not treated with chemo. I’ve had others with prescribed MM. Heck, I’ve got one who’s been prescribed reiki. Sad truth is, chemo/radiation is still, a lot of the time, the best we got. But trust me, none of us like it. I’m personally a fan of both western and some alternative treatments, as I think they complement rather than oppose each other once all politics are removed. But we humans have a tendency to sorta be a little “us versus them”. And that happens on both sides. I see it a lot as a Spiritualist who is also very pro science and into science. Both are parts of who I am but I feel one side of the coin has to be hidden when I’m amongst people on the other. They’re not at all incompatible at their core however.
In my case I stopped the chemo treatments. Bad, continuing, worsening side effects, untreated except for good diet and more exercise advised ! Found out, I was treated with aggressive drugs because the doctor was getting "kickbacks" for my (un-aware) semi-experimental participation in a Neulasta trial. I got no monetary benefits, doc took it. Needed to be treated aggressively to get money. I was told it, cancer and chemo, was mild, with no lymph nodes involved. I wonder if I actually even had cancer- rereading the biopsy - it is sketchy! BUT - I signed the release form. Never again ! ! ! I am near totally disabled, and getting worse.
After 40 years of watching Perry Mason, Columbo, Matlock, Law & Order, and more; I can say that the Chicago shows are by far the best because you can get the whole story with the 3 separate yet connected shows.
After watching clips here, and wanting more Dr Charles, I researched buying the Box set. Does your comment mean I need to buy two other shows as well, to understand what is going on? What are those shows? Are they all broadcast on the same night? More importantly, what happened here, what is the solution of the chemo death mystery? Was it connected somehow to the girl who asked about running tests on the chemo in the beginning of the clip? Thanks!
@@heidikickhouse- I know that while streaming it seems as though you miss parts of stories because they don't loop in the other two shows. So watching PD it felt as if a storyline was left unfinished. It's a pain
@@heidikickhouse- you really don't have to though. You will understand the story within the show itself. It's the same thing with Grey's anatomy and Station 19. You can watch one or the other, and you'll still understand the story. There's just a bit more backstory in station 19, you get to see what happened to greys anatomy characters, before they get there.
Spoiler: The Doctor that being killing his patient with Chemotherapy Radiation is charged and awaiting sentencing. Oh and he has his license stripped so he can no longer practice medicine again.
It's bad enough that one person died from overdosing on chemo when they never actually had cancer. But three? That is far too many in one day. It is sad when doctors and police have to work together in such a sad situation to find who's performing the malpractice.
This is based on a real case of a doctor named Farid Fata who falsely diagnosed patients with cancer so that he could charge them for treatment. He is now in federal prison.
@@sandpiperr There are some doctors that feel they can practice being "God" as it happened to me when I turned 30 and single and after surgery for a ruptured ovarian cyst wanted me to have a hysterectomy which I refused due to a gut instinct and he felt the excuse of being 30 and single was enough to "ALLOW" that a-hole to consider hysterectomy? Well - my gut instinct made me concern when he said my insides were beautiful? What doctor tells a patience their insides looks good as if he wanted to placed parts of my body in a bottle? I said,"NO" and I got an expert that told me it was not necessary to get hysterectomy from what he saw. This doctor was from the University of Miami - and I trusted him more than that horrible over zealous Christian that wanted to take my options of having a child. I never went back to that doctor -NEVER! By the way, several years later, I got married and had two beautiful children. I had made it clear I planned to get married some day and have a family and so I was RIGHT!
My mom had a tumor misdiagnosed as cancer. She decided not to do treatment and whatever it was just went away. Just disappeared. Been 16 years of regular checkups and still nothing.
I truly wish people would fully understand the depths of damage chemotherapy can truly cause. In many many cases, it's the chem that makes the patient severely sick with horrific side effects. Or it kills them. Those who get sick and survive mostly recover and go on to live mostly normal lives. Then there are very rare cases(like mine) where patients like me get very, serious permanent side effects. And our quality of life is very poor compared before treatment. We're damned if we do damned if we don't. I know the situation here is caused by a psychopath, but I feel what I shared needed to be shared.
Amen. As a cancer survivor who had 2 rounds of high dose radiation, I believe that it is a damn if you do and damn if you don't decisions. I had complications from radiation poisoning.
I'm so sorry for your experience, I am just an outsider looking in but chemotherapy seems almost barbaric. I have seen it save lives, though others I have known who did it died and got so sick from the chemo it was shocking to watch. And like you said, it can cause permanent effects. I truly hope one day we will have more humane treatments for cancer available. God bless you
@@Maneh7 very sorry for your loss. One reason people should know is so the patients' decision is never second guessed by loved ones. My mother decided against the second round although it might have bought another 12 months. People were strangely unafraid to tell her she had made the wrong decision. She never once asked for anyone's input.
Couldn't have said it better myself. My mother in law passed away from breast cancer. The first time of chemo, she was "cured". Then on her annual, it was shown that the cancer had came back but now it had spread. They did chemo again. This time, her doctors said it wasn't working and she was sent to hospice. I'd like to believe if she hadn't done the second round of chemo, she'd be alive a little longer.
This happened to me. Five rounds of chemo followed by surgery. Never had cancer. Just a mistake. Couldn’t get in to the lawsuits. Was too sick afterwards to do much.
Depending on the case it may be hard to sue for malpractice. Doctors just being wrong doesn’t mean it was malpractice, they have to have actually done their job poorly outside of that. However I will say it’s a pretty bad sign that they did all of that before actually confirming cancer
@@adrianareyes7300 Been much longer than ten years now. I developed a very very rare lung disease and the symptoms started three years after the chemo. This makes it very likely the chemo caused it. I almost died and for ten years suffered from heart failure. Can’t do anything now.
I still remember when my grandma had breast cancer (4th time) she also had c. diff. She told the doctors/nurses she doesn't feel good and don't think she can take a chemo treatment. Everyone says she's fine. Then in the middle of the treatment, doctor rushes in telling everyone to stop her treatment now. It made her so so sick. I will always believe that chemo treatment killed her because she never bounced back from it.
@@followerofeir it is effective for blood cancers. Other cancers might not be worth the suffering. Why not just enjoy one's last days and weeks take pain med as needed ❤️
@@truenokillbecause it gives people a hope to live. I feel like wanting to die rather than painful treatment is more of a personal choice depending on age, mental stability, and so so much more
This episode is part of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise.
Oh good I knew I saw a fire fighter!! I only watch 911 but Im on s3 now and am able to recognise the outfits and crossovers and I see the Chicago pd vids on here poping up with a few md but not so much fire, but I know theres station 19, lonestar and others so I was like ok £10 that Chicago fire, next to the pd team cajse thats one tree hill girl 🤔 and this is md 🧐 hmm i say its a 3 show crossover for 50 points please!!@@jediclonekag13
Doctors can, easily, kill and never get caught. I had a doctor offer "to end my suffering" 3 times because I rebuffed his advances. He still refuses to go away.
A friend of mine had breast cancer and wanted to at least live until her son graduated high school. She did live that long but died not long after he graduated. She had so many treatments that I wonder if the chemo didn't kill her. But she always said if you need treatment for cancer, go to MD Anderson in Texas. She initially had been treated where we lived, but it did not go well. But once she went to MD Anderson, it went so much better. I watched her little boy for her just to help out, and he was in third grade when he first started coming to our house.
@@Alejandra-iv9es it's part of a trilogy series that happen all take place at the same time. Chicago Med, PD (Police Department), and Fire. On occasion, they will have one story that will crossover through all three series. The first I saw was a someone spreading diseases around Chicago and refusing to stop until their demands are met. I think they were also going over how despite them being 3 different types of emergency response services, they all work toward the common goal of helping people. One of the doctors has a brother in the police and I can't remember if it's a friend or another family member in the fire department.
My brother got diagnosed with cancer and he immediately went to another hospital for the second opinion and a third hospital for a third opinion. My family doesn't trust doctors or hospitals for this stuff exactly.
Honestly seeking second opinions should be encouraged! A doctor's professional opinion is just that, an opinion-- backed by evidence, but evidence can potentially be misinterpreted or misunderstood. Two doctors can look at the same case and may agree, but also may tell you totally different things. It can be hard to know who to trust and which route to take. I've always chosen the least invasive option, when I had the chance. Good luck to your brother
That's biology for you. After seeing clips of House it makes you wonder how they're ever sure about anything. Some are basically just witch doctors entirely, such as orthopedics. It's more a guess than anything else.
@@krismine99 I see it as less of them being witch doctors and more that there are billions of humans on earth, all with variable bodies, and many parts of the human body or phenomena that happen within them aren't yet well understood
I didn't see this episode, but I did see the Chicago P.D. follow up. I think it was based on the doctor who falsely diagnosed cancer and gave healthy people chemo. Caused so much pain, and the jail time he got wasn't nowhere near enough.
This episode is part of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise.
@@Uncultured_Barbarian465 The One Chicago and Law & Order franchises have some of the best crossovers, especially since both are set in the same universe.
Unfortunately not all these types of situations are fiction. Dr Farid Fata in Michigan adminstered chemo to over 500 patients who did not have cancer, in Detroit
The scary thing is this is based on the true story of a doctor who would give false diagnoses and massively overprescribe chemo, claiming he was using a "European protocol." He was an expert so no one questioned him, but he was literally just doing it for profit. He'd collect payments for huge amounts of hugely expensive treatments, often many times what a normal patient would receive. Fortunately to my knowledge no one died, but the problem was discovered when his patients started going to other hospitals and their doctors found that they had chemo poisoning and no cancer.
Interesting show, even more interesting is the fact that every episode seems to have a psychiatric consultation. Besides being an ER patient several times, I’ve worked in two hospitals and never encountered that
I love that this episode is Part 2 of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise. Chicago Fire S4E10 and Chicago P.D. S3E10 serve as Parts 1 and 3 respectively.
I know of a situation in Chicago where 3 patients were diagnosed with an extremely rare cancer in a short period of time. It was statistically almost impossible so they investigated. Turned out the lab was using expired chemicals for their tests. Patients were told tney were cured, when the truth was that they were never sick.
See now, when I heard "Rocky Roadium" I thought she's just forgot her line and made it up! Nope, Rocuronium is a muscle relaxer~ Thanks Google, and medical dramas for making me learn. 👍
So you can be on chemo for a variety of reasons without cancer, such as autoimmune or mast cell disease so I’m not liking the saying that it’s only cancer patients who can be on chemo but they were probably on multiple types of chemo and like it said they were overdosed and told that they did have cancer so different situation
Sad how a doctor did this just like my dad he had to get chemo done but because the doctor didn’t have a available appointment until 3 months later he passed away from the tumor that kept coming out negative for cancer and it kept getting worse
My mom had breast cancer and she did chemo was in remission but the radiation used to treat the breast cancer gave her brain cancer and she passed away so this espiode really makes me mad
This happened to me when they said I had HPV it could turn into cervical cancer years later but when I got pregnant and did my pap smear at my obs clinic they said I don't have it so I was misdiagnosed smh the worse scare of my life fr and the clinic I went to they seemed like they didn't know anything
This reminds me of how they caught Harold Shipman, having gone through records etc and done tests and found loads of his elderly patients dying from diamorphine overdoses
This reminds me of my coordinator of my other career i was studying , she was misdiagnosed and over-treated but thx to the dr who was gonna do the chemo decided not to do it, cause she doesn´t have cancer and said the chemo probably gonna kill her, sadly she passed away this year from some other medical issues
I am a lymphoma survivor stage 3, was pushing 4. Agressive chemo was adminstered for 6 months. Per PET scan i'm cancer free. I'm thankful everyday, and have gained my weight back after 9 months of no treatment. 2 days after treatment ended, i had a heart attack, 99% blockage of left ventricle artery, new smaller arteries have grown to help with blood flow. Im also adrenal insufficient (what Jerry Lewis passed away from) and have a previous brain tumor growing back. I still feel blessed after all this. Sometimes you just have to have faith. The nurses and doctors are top notch professionals.....at the VA. Whoda thunk it🤷♂️and they're still doing their best to heal me. I take life, a day at a time. Live, love, laugh😏
I heard Peacock has them, and probably Nbc have it, I'm from UK and we have it on Netflix (season 1-4), Now Tv (season 5-7), Amazon prime (costs to buy episodes/seasons though), also you can buy the episodes through TH-cam too. I can't think of any more 😂
I wonder is this the start of the end of the doctor, that the one policeman said killed his wife. Just wondering. I never saw the series, only bits like this.
This episode was an eye opening for me. Makes wonder and realized that there are potentially millions of people out there been misdiagnosed for cancer, COVID-19, STD etc etcetera
Cancer diagnoses are taken very seriously, it is virtually impossible to misdiagnose it, only perhaps misdiagnose the type or get a false negative, virtually all require a biopsy, you don't just diagnose on biomarkers. Any possible mistakes are very unfortunate events, in this video they portrayed straight up malpractice which would be even more rare if at all, not millions, more like 1-2 in 10 years worldwide.
Almost NOBODDY has 100% O2 Sat. between 97 and 99 is good and normal. Below 90 is an issue depending on why, o2s below 80 are a dire emergency unless super duper long term heart failure. I think anyway. I know I'm right about the first part.
I think Sgt Voight’s wife did actually have cancer - he says that she was returned to the doctor when it “returned” meaning she probably had it at some point, but it was still the chemo overdose that killed her
Yea. Dr. Dean Reybold did OD over 40 patients with chemo they never really needed. It was thanks to Hank Voight that Reybold's going down for his crimes.
This is part of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise.
“Someone needs to have their license taken away” FR
Facts
He was put in prison 👍 which is even better.
@@ApartDragonFruit facts
Agreed.
Who needs to have their license taken away
Coached a 17 year old girl and her mom died after her first dose of chemo for stage 2 breast cancer. It still haunts me. We were out of state at a competition when she got sick. I had to tell her she had to immediately fly back home. Still tears me up to this day. Haunted by her screaming and begging me for things to be okay. My own daughter was the same age. The cancer didn’t kill her, the chemo did. The doctor admitted he was treating it very aggressively. For stage 2!
I'm so, so sorry for your and your friend's loss. Ultimately, it's a balance of risks. Staging is done based on what can be seen and what can be found in biopsies. However, it's since been found that small amounts of cancer cells can seed outside the primary site. Chemo is designed to kill those cells. Without it, unfortunately, someone with Stage 2 may find themselves with Stage 4 within a few years. Most cases of metastatic (stage 4) breast cancer happen this way. Unfortunately, the chemo doesn't always work for preventing this. But it drastically lowers the odds. Meanwhile, the chemo itself can cause toxicity up to and including fatal ones. But the odds of getting stage 4 (which isn't curable and has a median survival of about 3 years with chemo) without chemo were a lot higher than the odds of dying from chemo. So she did not die in vain from unnecessary treatment-it was just profoundly awful luck essentially.
Unfortunately, the doctors in that field are pushed to treat cancer with chemo or radiation or they’ll have their license revoked. The whole system is messed up.
@@kerrybrown4416 I work in oncology (RN) and that is actually a myth! Though some doctors do sorta hide behind it-not at my place but I’ve heard of this.
At my institution and at most, a doctor can do anything if they can cite two peer reviewed sources about it. I’ve had plenty of patients not treated with chemo. I’ve had others with prescribed MM. Heck, I’ve got one who’s been prescribed reiki.
Sad truth is, chemo/radiation is still, a lot of the time, the best we got. But trust me, none of us like it.
I’m personally a fan of both western and some alternative treatments, as I think they complement rather than oppose each other once all politics are removed. But we humans have a tendency to sorta be a little “us versus them”. And that happens on both sides. I see it a lot as a Spiritualist who is also very pro science and into science. Both are parts of who I am but I feel one side of the coin has to be hidden when I’m amongst people on the other. They’re not at all incompatible at their core however.
In my case I stopped the chemo treatments. Bad, continuing, worsening side effects, untreated except for good diet and more exercise advised ! Found out, I was treated with aggressive drugs because the doctor was getting "kickbacks" for my (un-aware) semi-experimental participation in a Neulasta trial. I got no monetary benefits, doc took it. Needed to be treated aggressively to get money. I was told it, cancer and chemo, was mild, with no lymph nodes involved. I wonder if I actually even had cancer- rereading the biopsy - it is sketchy! BUT - I signed the release form. Never again ! ! ! I am near totally disabled, and getting worse.
man the anti-medicine whackadoos really came out of the woodwork on this one.
After 40 years of watching Perry Mason, Columbo, Matlock, Law & Order, and more; I can say that the Chicago shows are by far the best because you can get the whole story with the 3 separate yet connected shows.
I think that the fan base name for all 3 shows is ONE CHICAGO
After watching clips here, and wanting more Dr Charles, I researched buying the Box set. Does your comment mean I need to buy two other shows as well, to understand what is going on? What are those shows? Are they all broadcast on the same night? More importantly, what happened here, what is the solution of the chemo death mystery? Was it connected somehow to the girl who asked about running tests on the chemo in the beginning of the clip? Thanks!
@@heidikickhouse- I know that while streaming it seems as though you miss parts of stories because they don't loop in the other two shows. So watching PD it felt as if a storyline was left unfinished. It's a pain
@@heidikickhouse- I would get all 3 series just because all 3 are connected. Yes they are all broadcasted on the same night.
@@heidikickhouse- you really don't have to though. You will understand the story within the show itself. It's the same thing with Grey's anatomy and Station 19. You can watch one or the other, and you'll still understand the story. There's just a bit more backstory in station 19, you get to see what happened to greys anatomy characters, before they get there.
Spoiler: The Doctor that being killing his patient with Chemotherapy Radiation is charged and awaiting sentencing. Oh and he has his license stripped so he can no longer practice medicine again.
And he killed Voight’s Wife
A few doctors are guilty
@@anyellafrancois2879 it is was just one doctor
@@yourboymalikcoleman8731 WHAT?!
@@lifewithlee6298 it was just one doctor that did crime
It's bad enough that one person died from overdosing on chemo when they never actually had cancer. But three? That is far too many in one day. It is sad when doctors and police have to work together in such a sad situation to find who's performing the malpractice.
Happened to one of my
cousins in-laws
chemo is a commonly used treatment for things that aren’t even cancer. methotrexate is used to treat eczema. it’s messed up
This is based on a real case of a doctor named Farid Fata who falsely diagnosed patients with cancer so that he could charge them for treatment.
He is now in federal prison.
If they do it purposely it is not malpractice - it is criminal.
@@sandpiperr There are some doctors that feel they can practice being "God" as it happened to me when I turned 30 and single and after surgery for a ruptured ovarian cyst wanted me to have a hysterectomy which I refused due to a gut instinct and he felt the excuse of being 30 and single was enough to "ALLOW" that a-hole to consider hysterectomy? Well - my gut instinct made me concern when he said my insides were beautiful? What doctor tells a patience their insides looks good as if he wanted to placed parts of my body in a bottle? I said,"NO" and I got an expert that told me it was not necessary to get hysterectomy from what he saw. This doctor was from the University of Miami - and I trusted him more than that horrible over zealous Christian that wanted to take my options of having a child. I never went back to that doctor -NEVER! By the way, several years later, I got married and had two beautiful children. I had made it clear I planned to get married some day and have a family and so I was RIGHT!
My mom had a tumor misdiagnosed as cancer. She decided not to do treatment and whatever it was just went away. Just disappeared. Been 16 years of regular checkups and still nothing.
I truly wish people would fully understand the depths of damage chemotherapy can truly cause. In many many cases, it's the chem that makes the patient severely sick with horrific side effects. Or it kills them.
Those who get sick and survive mostly recover and go on to live mostly normal lives.
Then there are very rare cases(like mine) where patients like me get very, serious permanent side effects. And our quality of life is very poor compared before treatment. We're damned if we do damned if we don't.
I know the situation here is caused by a psychopath, but I feel what I shared needed to be shared.
Amen. As a cancer survivor who had 2 rounds of high dose radiation, I believe that it is a damn if you do and damn if you don't decisions.
I had complications from radiation poisoning.
I'm so sorry for your experience, I am just an outsider looking in but chemotherapy seems almost barbaric. I have seen it save lives, though others I have known who did it died and got so sick from the chemo it was shocking to watch. And like you said, it can cause permanent effects. I truly hope one day we will have more humane treatments for cancer available. God bless you
I think this is not talked about enough. My coworker died from the chemotherapy side affect 3 months ago.
@@Maneh7 very sorry for your loss. One reason people should know is so the patients' decision is never second guessed by loved ones. My mother decided against the second round although it might have bought another 12 months. People were strangely unafraid to tell her she had made the wrong decision. She never once asked for anyone's input.
Couldn't have said it better myself. My mother in law passed away from breast cancer. The first time of chemo, she was "cured". Then on her annual, it was shown that the cancer had came back but now it had spread. They did chemo again. This time, her doctors said it wasn't working and she was sent to hospice. I'd like to believe if she hadn't done the second round of chemo, she'd be alive a little longer.
This happened to me. Five rounds of chemo followed by surgery. Never had cancer. Just a mistake. Couldn’t get in to the lawsuits. Was too sick afterwards to do much.
Oh no ! Wow !
Depending on you’re state you can sue even 10 years after or more. I would look into that
Depending on the case it may be hard to sue for malpractice. Doctors just being wrong doesn’t mean it was malpractice, they have to have actually done their job poorly outside of that. However I will say it’s a pretty bad sign that they did all of that before actually confirming cancer
@@adrianareyes7300 Been much longer than ten years now. I developed a very very rare lung disease and the symptoms started three years after the chemo. This makes it very likely the chemo caused it. I almost died and for ten years suffered from heart failure. Can’t do anything now.
U had surgery and you never had cancer? Weren't there any scans, lab reports showing your cancer?
I still remember when my grandma had breast cancer (4th time) she also had c. diff. She told the doctors/nurses she doesn't feel good and don't think she can take a chemo treatment. Everyone says she's fine. Then in the middle of the treatment, doctor rushes in telling everyone to stop her treatment now. It made her so so sick. I will always believe that chemo treatment killed her because she never bounced back from it.
I'm so sorry.
Chemo isn't great.. at all. But it is the most effective.
@@followerofeir it is effective for blood cancers. Other cancers might not be worth the suffering. Why not just enjoy one's last days and weeks take pain med as needed ❤️
@@truenokillmost reasonable response ive seen
@@truenokillbecause it gives people a hope to live. I feel like wanting to die rather than painful treatment is more of a personal choice depending on age, mental stability, and so so much more
this happened in real life. just took a lot more than 3 patients, unfortunately, to finally charge him 😔
I've been watching dozens of these clips for months and I haven't even seen an episode. These clips prove I really bloody need to
THIS IS LITERALLY ONE OF THE BEST EPISODES I'VE SEEN EVER
one is an accident, two is a coincidence, and three is on purpose
Then what's 42?
@@battlion507The answer to the Ultimate Question of Life. The Universe, and Everything.
@@battlion507 42, my friend, is common
@@battlion507 serial killer
Just so people know, you don't have to have cancer to be treated with chemo, there's a few different conditions that have chemo as a treatment
Yes I was about to comment this, some Lupus patients have to go through chemo.
@@PrettyEyesz but it's never Lupus though
@@smolapril 😂
My father used to receive Remicade infusion therapy for UC. That type of infusion therapy is also considered a form of chemo.
There are some chemo treatments for Rheumatoid Arthritis as well
They made an amazing cross-over between Chicago PD and MD
This episode is part of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise.
Oh good I knew I saw a fire fighter!! I only watch 911 but Im on s3 now and am able to recognise the outfits and crossovers and I see the Chicago pd vids on here poping up with a few md but not so much fire, but I know theres station 19, lonestar and others so I was like ok £10 that Chicago fire, next to the pd team cajse thats one tree hill girl 🤔 and this is md 🧐 hmm i say its a 3 show crossover for 50 points please!!@@jediclonekag13
Doctors can, easily, kill and never get caught. I had a doctor offer "to end my suffering" 3 times because I rebuffed his advances. He still refuses to go away.
That’s so creepy
Was he reported??
If that was in North America you can report him to the boards, PLEASE report this if you can
SAME
I was put in a coma by one...
A friend of mine had breast cancer and wanted to at least live until her son graduated high school.
She did live that long but died not long after he graduated. She had so many treatments that I wonder if the chemo didn't kill her.
But she always said if you need treatment for cancer, go to MD Anderson in Texas.
She initially had been treated where we lived, but it did not go well.
But once she went to MD Anderson, it went so much better. I watched her little boy for her just to help out, and he was in third grade when he first started coming to our house.
This was such a good over-arcing story.
I love how this and pd is connected and from both perspectives. So clever
This was based on a case that happened in real life, except it took more than 3 patients to come forward.
Is pd just private detective? That sounds like a good show
@@Alejandra-iv9es Chicago PD
@@Alejandra-iv9es it's part of a trilogy series that happen all take place at the same time. Chicago Med, PD (Police Department), and Fire. On occasion, they will have one story that will crossover through all three series. The first I saw was a someone spreading diseases around Chicago and refusing to stop until their demands are met. I think they were also going over how despite them being 3 different types of emergency response services, they all work toward the common goal of helping people.
One of the doctors has a brother in the police and I can't remember if it's a friend or another family member in the fire department.
I never knew this was a thing until I saw some comments here. Wow
I usually don't watch medical shows, but I like this one. I especially like Oliver Platt as the psychiatrist.
Is it bad that i still see him as Porthos from the Three Musketeers? That was 30 years ago this year...
@@erikaswanson7072glad it's not just me!!
@JaydenBrohm Me too.
I saw this episode of Chicago PD (crossover). It’s HUGE.
Definitely the first crossover
which episode is that i want to see the ending of this
@@takumi2023 not sure, BUT I checked the comments for the answer… they said Chicago PD season 3 “now I’m god”.
@@takumi2023 3 Part Crossover Starts with Chicago Fire S4 E10 The Beating Heart then Chicago Med S1 E5 Malignant then Chicago PD S3 E10 Now I'm God
“Now that you mention it”… girl, what?
I didn’t realize how much Chicago PD, Fire, and Med were related
They are also related to Law and Order SVU. All the shows were created by the same guy.
My brother got diagnosed with cancer and he immediately went to another hospital for the second opinion and a third hospital for a third opinion. My family doesn't trust doctors or hospitals for this stuff exactly.
GEEZUS! 😲 😯
Honestly seeking second opinions should be encouraged! A doctor's professional opinion is just that, an opinion-- backed by evidence, but evidence can potentially be misinterpreted or misunderstood. Two doctors can look at the same case and may agree, but also may tell you totally different things. It can be hard to know who to trust and which route to take. I've always chosen the least invasive option, when I had the chance. Good luck to your brother
That's biology for you. After seeing clips of House it makes you wonder how they're ever sure about anything.
Some are basically just witch doctors entirely, such as orthopedics. It's more a guess than anything else.
@@krismine99 I see it as less of them being witch doctors and more that there are billions of humans on earth, all with variable bodies, and many parts of the human body or phenomena that happen within them aren't yet well understood
Exactly
Damn I wanted to see them find the doctor that did it.
They do in a chicago PD episode. Can't remember which one though
It starts with Chicago Fire Season 4 episode 10, then this one, then Chicago PD season 3 episode 10
I think it's the same Dr. Who killed Voight's wife.
@@Riv3rrubia_19 I just remembered the case where Voight had to fight a dr. and go to court
@@Npyne so wait, are those three things different series but in the same universe or something???
Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, Chicago PD First Crossover
American greed. Every cancer patient means more money 💵 for the doctor and the insurance company
Yeah that's what the cancer doctor did to these patients
0:47: "Hey Daniel, why don't you take a look at this?". AKA: here boy, here, sniff this. K9😅
I didn't see this episode, but I did see the Chicago P.D. follow up. I think it was based on the doctor who falsely diagnosed cancer and gave healthy people chemo. Caused so much pain, and the jail time he got wasn't nowhere near enough.
This episode is part of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise.
@@jediclonekag13 I do like their crossovers.
@@Uncultured_Barbarian465 The One Chicago and Law & Order franchises have some of the best crossovers, especially since both are set in the same universe.
That just freezes my blood
When Dr Charles said: "She was loaded up on chemo, but this woman never had cancer" just froze my blood
Unfortunately not all these types of situations are fiction. Dr Farid Fata in Michigan adminstered chemo to over 500 patients who did not have cancer, in Detroit
I remember this.
That’s insane…
2:02 Okay… I know what he’s saying is serious, but I just can’t help but smile every time I hear the term “hinky”. No clue why.
The scary thing is this is based on the true story of a doctor who would give false diagnoses and massively overprescribe chemo, claiming he was using a "European protocol." He was an expert so no one questioned him, but he was literally just doing it for profit. He'd collect payments for huge amounts of hugely expensive treatments, often many times what a normal patient would receive. Fortunately to my knowledge no one died, but the problem was discovered when his patients started going to other hospitals and their doctors found that they had chemo poisoning and no cancer.
Oliver Platt is one of my absolute favorite actors!
The first time I ever saw him was in the movie Lake Placid, a good film.
I still see him as Porthos from the Three Musketeers. That was 30 years ago..
Interesting show, even more interesting is the fact that every episode seems to have a psychiatric consultation. Besides being an ER patient several times, I’ve worked in two hospitals and never encountered that
I love that this episode is Part 2 of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise. Chicago Fire S4E10 and Chicago P.D. S3E10 serve as Parts 1 and 3 respectively.
I know of a situation in Chicago where 3 patients were diagnosed with an extremely rare cancer in a short period of time. It was statistically almost impossible so they investigated. Turned out the lab was using expired chemicals for their tests. Patients were told tney were cured, when the truth was that they were never sick.
See now, when I heard "Rocky Roadium" I thought she's just forgot her line and made it up! Nope, Rocuronium is a muscle relaxer~ Thanks Google, and medical dramas for making me learn. 👍
So you can be on chemo for a variety of reasons without cancer, such as autoimmune or mast cell disease so I’m not liking the saying that it’s only cancer patients who can be on chemo but they were probably on multiple types of chemo and like it said they were overdosed and told that they did have cancer so different situation
Angel of death complex
Sad how a doctor did this just like my dad he had to get chemo done but because the doctor didn’t have a available appointment until 3 months later he passed away from the tumor that kept coming out negative for cancer and it kept getting worse
I wish this is back on Netflix it was a good series
i'm pretty sure it's on paramount+ or hulu, i can't remember which. kinda stinks that shows are so spread out across different platforms....
@@dekusi1857 I’m from the UK I hope it’s in Paramount +
@@The_Li0ness it’s on Peacock.
@@whosaidthat9265 That’s cool thanks for informing me 💕
Wow, Oliver Babish is multi talented.
My mom had breast cancer and she did chemo was in remission but the radiation used to treat the breast cancer gave her brain cancer and she passed away so this espiode really makes me mad
That is one of the scariest scenarios ever
My favorite One Chicago crossover
I’m going straight to Peacock to watch the full episode. Your scheme worked cause I have to know what happens, lol!
Anything other than house makes me fall asleep
You don’t need to have cancer to do chemo. Chemo is administrated if your illness is too aggressive. That what happen to me
This happened to me when they said I had HPV it could turn into cervical cancer years later but when I got pregnant and did my pap smear at my obs clinic they said I don't have it so I was misdiagnosed smh the worse scare of my life fr and the clinic I went to they seemed like they didn't know anything
Ok I'm intrigued. I actually want to see the whole episode
it jumps over to chicago PD as well as the head officer over theres wife was treated by the same Doctor. some really crazy things
What episodes
@@faithrobinson4168 these are just clips from the episodes
You can watch it free on peacock I believe
@@kellicopter1761 yeah but what ep is this
This legit happened to my best friend :(
I’m sorry for your loss did you get justice for what happened to your friend
I'm sorry for your loss, may they rest in peace. I hope they got justice or will get justice one day
i’m so sorry for ur loss and i hope you guys get the justice you all deserve
So sad
I'm extremely sorry for your loss
I wish there was full episodes for free.
Should be on the nbc or peacock apps
The highlight of this clip tbh is Charles's and Goodwin's banter
No conclusion ???
So abrupt the ending that itis frustrating
Hey everyone go on peacock and watch these. Its a 3 part series. Chicago med Chicago fire and Chicago pd.
goodwin: have you been binging on manic again?
charles: nope. law&order..... the original one, not the svu stuffs....
Mannix - detective television series
Once is a coincidence, twice is happenstance, thrice is a pattern.
The moment they say they're saying those women never had cancer just put me on edge😱
How could y'all leave me hanging?? 😞
I loved how they looked at each other like what in the world?
seeing that tube going down the womens mouth like ugh reminds me of what i had to go through when i had a auto crash
He's such a handsome man though. (Dr. Choi)
This reminds me of how they caught Harold Shipman, having gone through records etc and done tests and found loads of his elderly patients dying from diamorphine overdoses
This reminds me of my coordinator of my other career i was studying , she was misdiagnosed and over-treated but thx to the dr who was gonna do the chemo decided not to do it, cause she doesn´t have cancer and said the chemo probably gonna kill her, sadly she passed away this year from some other medical issues
I am a lymphoma survivor stage 3, was pushing 4. Agressive chemo was adminstered for 6 months. Per PET scan i'm cancer free. I'm thankful everyday, and have gained my weight back after 9 months of no treatment. 2 days after treatment ended, i had a heart attack, 99% blockage of left ventricle artery, new smaller arteries have grown to help with blood flow. Im also adrenal insufficient (what Jerry Lewis passed away from) and have a previous brain tumor growing back. I still feel blessed after all this. Sometimes you just have to have faith. The nurses and doctors are top notch professionals.....at the VA. Whoda thunk it🤷♂️and they're still doing their best to heal me. I take life, a day at a time. Live, love, laugh😏
This is why a lot of people don’t trust drs or always go for many opinions because some drs are really messed up
That is part of patient rights. Absolutely we patients must advocate for ourselves. Also an ombudsman is a great source to help you with this.
Remember this is a TV show most doctors don't do things like this
That’s why a lot of people shouldn’t watch these shows and get a skewed view of reality
This just makes my blood go cold
I appreciate how visibly upset Rhodes. It's good acting, and realistic.
Being a cancer patient myself this is scary
This made my blood go cold and left me on edge
Poor patients 😢 😞
Only when I see Dr Charles I wanna watch
Aw cmon man! You can't leave it at that! Oh well, I've been meaning start this series anyway
Lol why did they even do a bone marrow biopsy in the first place? That is definitely not a routine test.
Maybe it’s because they knew she was on chemo? Like are they looking for the type?
@@ivysaur8313 Dr Rhodes’s patient Dani Frank had a chemo port, maybe Jessica Pope had one too.
I already got the chills 😰
3:37-4:22 & 6:50-7:11 What a bizarre sequence of events
Love this show would like to see full episodes
Is the sign in free?
I heard Peacock has them, and probably Nbc have it, I'm from UK and we have it on Netflix (season 1-4), Now Tv (season 5-7), Amazon prime (costs to buy episodes/seasons though), also you can buy the episodes through TH-cam too. I can't think of any more 😂
@@Miss_Sylvie yes
@@Miss_Sylvie you sign in and that’s it no payment. Only thing you have to pay for iIF YOU WANT is peacock premium
the full episode doesn't answer the question of what happened to the women and why they were poisoned with chemo.
That nurse almost sounds like the one from ‘touched by an angel’?
This happened to my cousins husbands aunt. They mistakenly diagnosed her.
Void wife was also a victim. I think this so called doctor was the same one that got arrested
I wonder is this the start of the end of the doctor, that the one policeman said killed his wife.
Just wondering. I never saw the series, only bits like this.
Homie full on came in and said "I DIDNT DO IT, JOHNNYS LYING , MOM DAD I SWEAR" wheh he got called into the office lmao
And the fire... was likely the doctor setting the fire?
And yes that person should have their license revoked
There are cancers for which there are no chemos. Now that's difficult.
This episode was an eye opening for me. Makes wonder and realized that there are potentially millions of people out there been misdiagnosed for cancer, COVID-19, STD etc etcetera
Which is why when it comes to some things you get another option as you may have cancer or may not have it.
Not sure what would come of a misdiagnosis of an STD. The treatments aren't anywhere close to chemo
In this case, the cancer misdiagnoses weren’t mistakes - they were done by a psychopathic doctor who enjoyed the power he wielded over his patients
Cancer diagnoses are taken very seriously, it is virtually impossible to misdiagnose it, only perhaps misdiagnose the type or get a false negative, virtually all require a biopsy, you don't just diagnose on biomarkers. Any possible mistakes are very unfortunate events, in this video they portrayed straight up malpractice which would be even more rare if at all, not millions, more like 1-2 in 10 years worldwide.
What does a cancer Dx have to do with COVID?
I miss Dr. Reese!
Same I have a crush on her
This episode was actually insane
Why is just Daniel wondering around the ER when something interested happens? He doesn’t need to be called, he’s always there
I really should watch the Chicago franchise
Almost NOBODDY has 100% O2 Sat.
between 97 and 99 is good and normal. Below 90 is an issue depending on why, o2s below 80 are a dire emergency unless super duper long term heart failure.
I think anyway. I know I'm right about the first part.
Omg, what kind of doctor would do something like that)
That happened in real. The doctor was milking the patients for money.
I totally thought the lady lying in bed at the beginning was Aida Turturro who plays Janice Soprano on 'The Sopranos'. Lol
people take chemo medication for reasons other than cancer, like severe arthritis
I do
The inaccuracy is that rocuronium doesn't work in three seconds it takes 45-60 seconds to work.
I hate that they took this show off of Netflix. Where can I watch it
Peacock
Same, it was on my list to watch. I wanted to watch it last month on my vacation
It's still on Netflix in the UK
@@yourboymalikcoleman8731 thank you I’ll try there
Same!! I saw no warning, and then the shows disappeared. I wish there were the 3 related series, fire, med and pd.
Dr. Charles was like Sherlock , leading investigation about medical malpractice, catching serial killers. He is House but with nicer personality :D
Oh this is the EP thats linked with Sgt Voight's wife who also died of a chemo overdose for a cancer she never had.
I think Sgt Voight’s wife did actually have cancer - he says that she was returned to the doctor when it “returned” meaning she probably had it at some point, but it was still the chemo overdose that killed her
Yea. Dr. Dean Reybold did OD over 40 patients with chemo they never really needed. It was thanks to Hank Voight that Reybold's going down for his crimes.
This is part of a crossover between Chicago Fire, Chicago Med, and Chicago P.D. It starts off with a member of Firehouse 51 getting treated for stab wounds and then shifts into a police investigation of a doctor who overdoes patients with chemo despite them not having cancer. It's one of my favorite crossovers in the One Chicago franchise.