I found a book some time ago. It was called "Depression - the illness of strong people". At first it sounded so...weird to me. Sounded like a paradox. But then I started reading it and it made sense: it said that strong people have to support both themselves and the weak ones around them, who at the first sign of trouble give up and hang like dead weights onto the strong ones, filling the air with wails and complains. And someday it just becomes too much to bear for these strong ones. While the weak don't get depressed because they don't even fight, they just readily give up and then wait to be supported by the others. I hadn't thought about it that way.😳
Maybe people should just get over needing to be strong. I feel like a weak person at least in some aspects in life and it's okay. As long as everything is managed and things get done. We all have weaknesses and strengths.
It’s day by day because chronic depression and sadness are two different things. Even temporary depression that recovers is not the same as sad. Also bipolar disorder with depression is different too. It’s not just black and white. It’s a spectrum. Also, depression doesn’t have to be a diagnosis/cause. It can just be a symptom. So in order to treat it, you would treat it as a cause or symptom based on your diagnosis. Like having your physical health, an bad environment, an addiction, a death, etc. The cause is the situation leading to a symptom of depression. For it to be a cause/diagnosis, it would be clinical depression. Also, mood instability tends to get mistaken for depression or bipolar disorder. So would you need a mood stabilizer, an anti depressant, an antipsychotic, or an SSRI? Honestly, you can mix them for different things. It’s also a lot of the time hereditary. So genetics, environment, illnesses, social habits, physical treatment, etc. This isn’t including anxiety, ADHD, ADD, PMDD, PTSD, OCD, schizophrenia, borderline, etc.
@@nicolasdiez7688 A good job with a good financial situation makes it worse. It means you’re the one with the most responsibility in the home and on your shoulders. The state of mental health doesn’t change or get better because of a good job and good pay. In fact, there’s more stress due to the responsibility. If you’re making that money, it’s you’re working overtime, weekends, side jobs, night shifts, on-call, etc. Working an extra job for that bonus. It’s not just free money, and just because it looks financially stable, doesn’t mean it is because of your take-home. It’s hard not to be depressed when you work so much. A
dr. charles never fails to make me cry. he treats everyone with the compassion and softness i wish real psychiatrists did. i'm sure there out there, but i can't find them.
@@lila2986 as a person who worked in the prestigious hospitals in America Aetna is a nightmare for a lot of hospitals and getting authorizations. The best would be blue shield ppo and anthem ppo or Medicare with supplemental insurance. Or anthem blue shield. You may have gotten lucky with yours under Aetna but they are a nightmare that's why some are forced to see someone else especially for cancer patients.
@@lila2986 man i don't know what you do for a living but most of us can't choose our insurance. even on the marketplace, my choices were a crap cigna plan or paying hundreds of dollars a month i don't have in premiums and deductibles. i don't know if aetna's even on the marketplace, damn sure couldn't afford a policy without that subsidy. also worth pointing out psychiatrists typically only handle meds - you get 15 minutes to ID a med, figure out a dosage, check in on side effects/if it's working, and that's it. what most people think of as a psychiatrist is actually just a master's level therapist, and there are plenty of good ones out there.
"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad." That line is EXACTLY what made me realize my depression was real and valid. My life is/was great by standards...but I just couldn't BE happy or even content. Therapy and medication has saved me (and kindness to myself)
I mean… if you have reasonably strong empathy, you have every reason to be sad. Look at the world. Look at all the hate being spewed, look at the tyrants and wannabe tyrants who market in fear of the “other”. I have some degree of depression. But it’s not about how I, individually, will do, I know I am capable. It’s about the big picture, whether others will be okay. Or if our rights will be trampled.
Well done for seeking help when you discovered you needed it. You hang in there. I have that challenge myself, and have had it for 15 years. You have no reason to justify how you're feeling. You have every right to be kind to you, and feel how you feel. Wish you the very best.
He is a TV doctor. No real life doctor would behave like this, even if caring and professional. I love Dr Charles but half of the things he does is soooo unrealistic. You cannot detain someone only because you "know their type" and they explained their accident in too many details.
"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad" "You don't need an excuse you're a human being" I wish someone would have said this sooner. Thank you Dr. Charles.
@@musicalsaber6433 EVERYONE’S depression is complex, Saber. My own was diagnosed as Clinical Depression. Everyone in my life that I loved and depended on……..died. One by one. What started out as mere Depression went into Clinical Depression since the losses kept building on each other. Et voil’a…….antidepressants. And when one would stop working to its maximum, it was time to switch to another and then another. I did this for over 45 years, UNTIL I saw a video saying that it MIGHT be a vitamin deficiency. I didn’t believe it, but was so desperate for help that I would have tried almost anything. I was intelligent enough not to stop my meds cold turkey, though. I continued taking them AND started ALSO taking the specific vitamins. After two months, knowing the vitamins were fully in my system, I chose to stop the meds. Noooooo problem ! Yes, I was shocked ! And I have never regretted my decision for a minute. Now, I am not saying that the vitamins will 100% be the cure for everyone. But, I AM saying that “ dollar to donuts, everyone’s depression IS at least PARTLY caused by a deficiency in those vitamins “. Isn’t it worth a million dollars to just TRY it ? Even if it only helps 50%, isn’t it WORTH the 50% to at least TRY it ? Well, this is your own decision, Saber. I wish you well. And now, I am going to get some much needed sleep !❤️
I don’t believe I had it or only a little compared to other people. I wasn’t that smart a kid at school. Always behind. Borderline dyslexic. In order for me to catch up I had to be something I wasn’t. I spent my whole life proving people wrong. But at the end of it, I was so tired. Fighting the world. Being something I wasn’t. The shame you feel, especially when you have family with a “traditional mindset of get on with it.
When everything is handed to you in a silver platter and lived a comfortable life, it's difficult to accept and admit when you have depression. It feels like you have no right to be sad.
@jenbk2 bk2 As someone officially diagnosed with clinical depression, and who has lived both with everything I could ever need, and gone without basic necessities, depression doesn't discriminate. Your depression does not give a holy damn whether your situation improves or not, it will still find a way to drag you down. The guilt that comes with living comfortably and still being miserable is a killer all on its own. I live both a very high stress, yet comfortable life, I don't struggle financially, but rather with my family. There are so many components that go into why one might be depressed. Living a comfortable life =/= Happy. I've struggled with suicide. My father committed suicide, my mother had an attempt that hospitalized her, I stopped a friend at school mid serious injury (they were hospitalized.) Each one of these situations was vastly different, they each had different outcomes, they were each under unique circumstances. Depression does not discriminate.
This is exactly why I love doctor Charles, it was so easy to just send this guy away but he knew there was something wrong and he wasn’t going to give up until that man got help.
Except this is malpractice and unethical, even though it turned out he was right. You need a reason, like observable and documentable, and not just I got that vibe from him.
“I have absolutely no excuse to be sad” Really hit personally for me. I have a good life, a good family, people who love me. Yet I still get in deep depressive episodes from time to time. I get so mad at myself whenever I feel that way, because I always believe I have no reason to be sad when people out there have it worse than I do. But everyone needs to be reminded that no matter who you are, where you come from, or how you live, your feelings are always valid. The human brain works in funky ways, and sometimes we have terrible emotions we can’t control. We just have to remind ourselves that we are human, and what we feel is nothing to be ashamed of
Everything is going to be okay. You are loved and you are appreciated and I know that we will probably never meet but I hear you and I want to let you know that you are NOT alone. You can get out of this, you can do this, hang in there. Sometimes we got to fall to get back up even stronger. I know it's going to be hard but you're built for it, kid. There is no shame in asking for help
Hes in a psych observatory being monitored 24/7. You got a point but still it wont be that easy to pull off suicide in that situation. Also the patient was in denial of being suicidal so I dont think he will try any of that sort while hes being watched. His vision was to die "accidentally" so he isnt viewed as a weak minded sad individual.
This episode touched me hard. Because so many times I was depressed but forced to convince myself and others that I was fine since I got a life that many many people would kill to have. I was born and raised in a middle-up class family, I got blessed with parents that love and support me in everything who also put me through a decent school and university. That is why I refused to be seen as someone depressed, because in my eyes I had no excuse to feel unhappy. But I've learned that anyone can be sad or depressed because it's a human thing to have emotions
Everyone deals with a level of stress or anxiety, and sometimes, I would say often, it can translate right into depression. Depression and anxiety alone affect at least 2/3rds of the world.
I feel this so hard. I grew up the same way, I am surrounded by people that love me and support me more than anything. Yet still, I'd rather not be here, but I would never show or admit that to the ones I love. You aren't alone either ❤
@@lauracoates8026 Losing a child is something you never truly get over. I'm sorry that among other things have happened and I hope you still find peace during your days.
@@lauracoates8026 Some people have very closed minds, and can assume that you're fine because of the things you have. It's better to ask why you feel that way than to assume you're fine because your life sounds great on the surface. You're welcome.
My dad killed himself in depression. He denied and didn’t let us know until he took his own life. Not only we lost him that day, we lost part of ourselves. Depression is something that needs to be treated right away. After 10 years of loosing him, our entire family is shattered and walking on eggshells around us. It’s been so hard.
Losing a loving parent is (like) losing a part of oneself. I feel your pain, even though my Dad died of other causes than depression. Stay strong, take care of yourself 💪
@@carolcole570 really?? I mean docs try to tell me all the time vitamin d helps with this but it never seems to help when they prescribe it. I could be different as everyone's brain chemistry and causation is different, but I'd love to know if there's other factors. I have many vitamin deficiancies/anemia. how'd they find out?
@@OutcastDimensionTCG All I can tell you is my own experience. When I heard Dr. Berg say this, I started taking the D3+K2 immediately…..along with my antidepressant. I chose to wait for two full months and one day stopped the antidepressant. I was thrilled to find that I no longer had to take the antidepressant anymore ! I had chosen to take 20,000 IU of the D3+K2. Since then, I am still learning about it. I have learned how important K2 is, but it is always sold as mcg, and actually works better if it is 45 MG (not mcg). I found the 45 MG just yesterday, delivering to me today ! Also, I have learned that Zinc Picolinate plus a hefty dose of Magnesium is even more beneficial with it. Look for the list and explanations of what each kind of Magnesium will do. Choose the one that relates to you. If you are extremely depressed, you may need to try as much as 40,000 IU for a few months, then maybe drop to 30,000 for a few months, then further. It is you….experimenting. In the midst of all this, your Labs will go high and your doctors will freak. When they freak, I back off for a month, THEN ramp it back up. Keep searching to see what Dr. Berg is putting out…..EVEN his “ short “ videos. I think it was one of his “ shorts “ where I learned about the 45 MG for K2. I really really hope that something I have said has helped.❤️
This doctor has a way of making people break. Sad part is, most doctors will just ask you if you did and try to off yourself on purpose and if you give them a convincing enough no, they will send you on your way unless they could prove otherwise such as toxicology reports from a OD and not just an X-ray of a leg. We need more people like who play Dr Charles in the show who genuinely wants to help people.
Taking away free will as a psychiatrist is a huge mistake if there isnt info to back it up. It’s just like any other job. Theres huge negative consequences. What could be acceptable is a hunch from years of experience with the patient
So first clue that no one involved in this episode has been on/seen a psych hold… the person alleged to try self termination is still wearing a freaking neck tie as well as shoes with laces. For a show that handles a lot of psychiatric involved cases you’d think they’d get the simple bits right.
Very good point. This fat lummox seems real good at getting people to cry. If yur not depressed when you go in under his care, you sure will be by the time they come back from station break
When I was seeing a psychologist for therapy because I knew I needed help dealing with depression, one of the things his office had all patients do once every 6 months or so was a multiple-choice quiz. Questions like “how have you been feeling lately” and “how do you feel your grades are” (it was on campus). I filled it out and was super proud of my progress! I’m so much happier! Everything is great! I was shocked when he sat me down and very gently asked me what was going on. I thought my answers indicated progress towards happiness; they actually told him I was spiraling deeper into sadness. I still don’t know how, but I do know that he was literally the only person who picked up on that and because of it, I survived the winter in a much better mental place. Depression isn’t always recognizable, least of all to the bearer.
You were 'pink clouding' is likely what he saw from your responses. You likely had an abrupt tick upward in happiness instead of a gradual progression (that sometimes dips back down even!) which is what normal mental health check ins would look like. Pink clouding is an abnormal uptick in happiness while dealing with depression or peace with a traumatic event without actually processing it. It's very common before... dramatic action is taken, either because they're happier now that they've decided to exit the problem or because the second the trauma really hits them, they can't handle it now that they've denied needing help. I'm glad he identified it and you got help you needed.
@@prettyevil6662000 thank you for this explanation. I've been in therapy on and off for many years, and I don't think I've ever heard this term before.
@@prettyevil6662000 idk if I have bipolar disorder but one of my last I guess hypomanic episodes was actually triggered by a lot of stress. Actually, it was triggered around Memorial Day for me. (Basically, it's one of those hard days for me and kept thinking about my brother and other people in my life.)
Dr Charles is so brilliant at his job too bad it's just a show. As someone who has had a long journey with mental illness anything like this hits hard not that I've had depression but I have OCD and social anxiety. This show does a brilliant job of showing mental illnesses without judgement
Trying to hold that act truly is utterly exhausting. I dropped my act a long time ago to show that I really needed help, sadly I didn't have people like Dr. Charles to help me.
This made me cry, men have such a hard time with their emotions and depression. Depression in men is often confused with agressivity. A man I knew, three kids, nice wife, good job, lovely home actually bought a rope and handed himself in his home with no outward signals that he was depressed. Two beautiful successful, wealthy women I knew killed themselves with an overdose as for them their lives had been long enough. I stopped a young girl one day from jumping in front of a train, instinct told me to grab her and hold her and talk her down. Another day I passed a homeless guy as I was rushing along and then instinctively turned back and sat with him for two hours and he told me that he had decided to end his life as no one saw him anymore. We can't save them all but we can pay more attention.
Yes, very true. Quite selfish on the part of the self-ender. Some would-be non-existers seem fond of jumping in front of high speed locomotives. They say RR engineers end up with PTSD from these experiences. Its a horrible thing to experience.
@RaptorFromWeegee you are right. My psychologist told me he had a whole file cabinet full IOD cases, mostly from the railway service. I was confused until he said it was mostly train drivers. Btw he was not trying to gossip about his clients, I made a comment on the filing cabinet. It was a beautiful vintage looking piece. Looked like an old-fashioned steamer trunk.
The biggest red flag to me was the sadness when he said not to bother his wife with this since she just billed 80 hours last week. I AM a wife and that is ludicrous. He genuinely believes he is a burden to her. Clearly depression. Very sad
It's not about how good your life is or how sad you are... it's all in your brain chemistry, and it's no one's fault or a sign of weakness. Depression is a real mental illness and should always be taken seriously, and sometimes people with depression need a little tough love to help them realize that they need help ❤
The worst thing about depression is being convinced you have absolutely no right to be sad or feeling down all the time, yet the pain still continues even though you know a lot of people would love or kill to be where you're at, yet, the pain seems to never leave
Okay so OBVIOUSLY I don’t agree with putting a patient in involuntary psychiatric hold with no evidence other than a hunch & it would probably never happen. BUT this still got me. Depression can cause so much shame and the desperation to hide it becomes almost second nature. I only sought help when my best friend sat me down and told me she didn’t even recognise me anymore. I made a Dr appointment and ended up breaking down in her office when she said “you don’t have to pretend to be okay if you’re not”. You can have a good job, a good family, a “happy” life, and still suffer from mental illness. As Dr Charles says, it’s not a sign of weakness. Hiding the pain is only going to make it worse
Yeah, I think they gotta be able to articulate and document clear and present signs that the pt is an imminent danger to self or others. Guess too many housewives got frivolously committed back in the 50s so hubby could catch a break from the nagging.
@@AlasBabylonxxif you watch the show you would know that they are allowed to put a patient on 24 hour hold before of something they see. Yes it’s unrealistic but its how they do it in the show
this is so important to understand. depression is the illness that tells you it doesn’t exist. depression tells you you’re not good enough to have it, or you’re too good. depression tells you that you’re not depressed, just stupid and selfish and lazy and ungrateful. depression can go step on a lego. *you don’t need to be “deserving” to get the help you need.*
Being sad is a normal human emotion and shouldn't be stigmatized! Its ok to feel any emotion you are feeling! Dr Charles is great! Nobody has a perfect life!
As someone who's had depression since their early twenties, this hit me hard. Back then I had a difficult time but my parents made sure I took my medicine and even monitored me. Fourteen years later I am still keeping myself going. But the way this guy is acting? My youngest sister does act this way except she buries her emotions but react hostile if she upsets you. I'm in my thirties and gotten to that point where she starts arguments to get reactions or attention. To her feeling human makes her weak. There's times I do wish she sees that her family loves her instead of running from her problems.
This one gets me every time. So many people think that depression is something that happens because of something going wrong with a person's life. It's not. You can have everything going right in your life and just one morning wake up and still be depressed. And it's not about being sad. It's about feeling as if the whole world is falling around you. It's about a weight in the chest that you can't get rid of. It's about not being able to get out of bed even when you're completely capable of it. It's about panicking when everything closes around you. There's this image of people with depression as if they've done something or something was done to them. What gets me about this episode is when Dr. Charles says, "You don't need an excuse, man. You're a human being." And it's so freaking true. Some are lucky enough that it never happens to them. Others have it even when they have everything right in their life. I think people need to stop telling people who have depression what depression is. People need to listen more. People need to look for the signs, like Dr. Charles did here. He automatically KNEW.
I think I might have bipolar but the last few years, whenever something serious happened I would usually get I guess hypomanic or really energetic for days (sometimes it wasn't even caused by stress but usually was.) Once the situation went away, I was depressed. Even this last week and even yesterday, I accidentally looked at something that brought on I guess flashbacks from the past and stuff which triggered an episode.
@@trinitylivingston1286 I'm sorry to hear that. It must be really frightening. I get the depressed part. I have clinical depression in addition to anxiety. I don't really get manic though. But it must be super difficult and confusing when that happens. And then to swing over to being depressed must be scary. I get triggers all the time. When I hear loud noises I automatically panic. Part of my PTSD. And when I see the clouds outside, I automatically start feeling depressed. It sounds to me like you have the same. Have you tried talking to a therapist? If you find the right one, it can make a world of difference. Bipolar is hard to control and can end up with a lot of problems in your life because of it. A therapist could help you with that. I've been in therapy for over 20 years and it's helped me a lot. I went from being scared, alone, angry, and panicky to being able to manage my symptoms and control my life. And it's due to my therapists and all the hard work I did with them. They could help you with this.
Great husband. Three beautiful kids. Beautiful home. Yes, my kids are special needs - but they all get wonderful services and are WONDERFUL CHILDREN and humans. I have absolutely no excuse to be sad. But I am.
OMG this was a story in a tv show called URBAN LEGENDS.... A college student had to choose a subject for a psychiatry class, he CHOSE TO GO TO A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, PRETEND TO BE CRAZY AND SEE IF HE GETS HIMSELF ADMITTED AND HE DID IT BUT HE ENDED UP MAKING HIMSELF AN INVOLUNTARY PATIENT😮😮😮
There was an experiment where a psych had students who went to different hospitals and pretend to show symptoms to see if they could get admitted, they did, then they were told to act completely normal, like their true self, after being admitted to see how long it would take for them to be discharged. In the end the teacher had to go to the hospitals and explain the experiment to get them out because they were still stuck in there. Only going back to studying psych now after a bit of a break so can’t remember the name but should be able to Google it.
@@AlishaField1609 A very dangerous and expensive game to play. That stuff doesn't come cheap plus it stays on your record and can later disadvantage you. LOL, wouldn't it a been funny if these were just the psych students the professor separated off cause he thought they really were crazy? Like he jus wanted to get rid of them and this was easier than moving for an expulsion.
Nelly Bly famously did it “first” back in 1887. She ended up spending 10 days in the mental hospital. You can read her article about it if you Google “Ten days in a mad-house; or, Nellie Bly's experience on Blackwell's island. Feigning insanity in order to reveal asylum horrors”
Yeah, this would never hold up. No evaluation, no proof. He could absolutely sue. It's considered medical kidnapping. This is a terrible depiction of involuntary medical hold.
They can do what was shown If it's suspected someone tried to end their own life and an x-ray shows proof of that and the person gives a way to in depth detailed description and refuses to repeat themselves and is insisting they can go home and does whatever they can to get out of the hospital fast That's a sign to put them in a psychiatric hold
A certain amount of people with successful jobs and lives have achieved them precisely because of mental illness, because they always need to be in control in an attempt to manage their inner problems.
Yeah, my grandfather was like that. Total control freak, perfectionist, workaholic, high achiever, both a lawyer and a CPA, probably had OCPD. Dad said he was very difficult to live with. Finally in his late middle aged years he had some kind of breakdown. He was said to suffer from "nervous exhaustion". Treated by a prominent New York Dr, they made him move out of his nice Westchester home and into the McAlpin Hotel, near his job. He was forced to relax and take on only minimal work. Had to eat a lot of rich high protein foods, no meds. He got better, moved home, but moved into his den for a period of time for some reason. Only after he was much better could he move back into his marital bedroom.
The tears were silently streaming down my face that was so beautifully portayed. I tried so hard to hide the damage from the abuse and torture and Bipolar and BDD and cPTSD for so long, believing like I'd been told my whole life that it was a failing in me, my fault, all I'm worth and all I deserve...until I was shown it wasn't. It's so hard sometimes, and I'll be in treatment and taking meds for the rest of my life, but I am taking some of my life back more every day. Please, if you are suffering, please know it's not your fault and please believe you deserve all of the help and support that's there for you.
I think we all suffer from some form of depression..most of the time i think it stems from feeling alone..facing life and all it's ups & downs with no one to talk to..no one we feel will truly understand. I'm only a cashier but most days i ask strangers simple questions that lead them to talk a little about their lives. I see a light in their eyes just by me taking a true interest in them & it makes their day & mine. I once had a co worker tell me i just brighten up a room without noticing. Looking back now..i can see what she meant. It's because i truly care about a person & how their day is going..even if they were a complete stranger.
I wish not only did more people with Depression see this, but those around them reminding them about all the great things in their life and why they have no reason to be depressed could also see this
Honestly, hearing the words “I have no excuse to be sad” just makes me think of my own depression. I have an amazing life, wonderful parents, a great sister, friends who care for me. Depression doesn’t care. It just is. And that’s okay, because it’s okay to not be okay.
I'm afraid its too late Kaci, I've already contracted Earl, he's going to take you someplace quiet. And sorry but you'll have to share a room with that suicidal lawyer. Short of beds.
"no past history of depression." according to American Journal of Preventive Medicine. 60% of men who commit suicide have no prediagnosed mental illness. so history of not having diagnosed depression is a complete void argument.
I've been dealing with depression for a while now, after my parents and grandparents passed away I became emotionally numb so now when my depression hits it's very intense I have good days the bad days are the utmost worst sometimes I feel like I could cry for days or weeks
Yeah, feeling depressed when things are going well is SO frustrating. Because there’s no “fix”. Like if something is specifically bringing you down, you can try to change it. But when there’s no cause, there’s nothing external to try and resolve to improve your depression. It SUCKS
Whew! This episode hits too close to home, i used to think i had nothing to be sad about wondering why am i not happy nothing is wrong with my life.. but than i had to learn sometimes depression has a way of sneaking up on you and its not your fault , its okay to get help , thank god for me getting better day by day.
bro him threatening a psych hold is out of pocket. once that happens, the rest of your medical care is compromised. no one will believe you for the rest of your life and it prevents you from getting actual care that you need.
Wow! What scenes. I think the man who plays the doctor is such a good actor. The younger man did a good job. The direction and editing is excellent. And it’s a very needed topic to cover. Thanks. :) 😒🌷🌱
Depression makes you into an actor. How good you can play the role is up to you. I remember I used to mask it as ambivalence to the world, then the frequent episodes of extreme happiness then extreme sadness, then the mask fell and I couldn’t fake anymore. I’ve been up and down but now I’m surviving thanks to the people I love
Well, I’m a registered nurse at 37 years and I was recently in the hospital and they did several things against my specific wishes being a medical person does not give you the license to do any damn thing you want. It’s a man wants help he ask for it otherwise leave him alone.
Oh man, I felt this. I've dealt with depression and it's so hard when there truly is no reason to be sad. I've got a blest life. But hormone imbalance can make things feel scary and dark. Thankfully I was never suicidal and I have a wonderful family that loves me, plus I'm a Christian who knows God loves me and cares for me, so I've never had to "perform" or fake happiness. And I'm a lot better after discovering the physical causes of my issues.
Boy, I can certainly relate, having suffered depression most of my adult life. It doesn't help having a fiancé who says that there is no such thing as depression, that I'm making a conscious choice to feel sad. It makes you realize how alone you are, even in a room full of people. I just try to talk myself out of it and analyze what I'm feeling. It helps sometimes.
I've broken my leg (spiral fracture of the tib and fib, pretty much one of the worst ways you can break it) and major depressive disorder. What honestly surprised me the most about breaking my leg was how much easier it was to deal with.
I've lived through bad abuse till my early 20s. It's been tough, I've been in and out of therapy once i could afford it. But i was never suicidal... until 25. When my life was completely on track. Safe, flourishing, great friends. And somehow i was still depressed. "I have no excuse to be sad" hits extra hard. It somehow becomes worse when it gets better.
This is similar to my revelation. I always thought that depression is just being bummed out, but it can manifest in many forms. For me it was a short temper and breaking things, because I couldn't think of anything else to do. Then I listened to an NPR show about male depression that ticked a lot of boxes for me and got checked out. I'm still depressed, but have better control of my life.
I like the details they put on the actors, like in 2:32, you can see Dr Charles' shirt with stain under his coat, and the disheveled look that shows he had a rough week. Real doctors have that... and it shows their vulnerable human side. From those clues, we could see how good they are, just like the first time Holmes met Watson!
This was SUCH a stretch. Yes lawyers are known to be depressed and high stressed. But the simple fact that he got hit above the knee was beyond stretched for this case.
I honestly don’t understand this. Is someone knows they have nothing to be sad about but continues to be sad for what ? Especially people who actually live their dreams out and actually have what they want . There’s absolutely no reason they should be depressed. And my thing is apparently everyone mixes DEPRESSION with SADNESS and their both 2 very different things . But this world now a days wants to call everyone and everything depressed and depression. It’s so annoying to people who actually have depression. If your sad you are not depressed.
@@mindyourbusinesbro6813 Sadness is temporary, there's an obvious cause and in time it fades. Depression is a disease that, without proper treatment, will take everything from you. Until you get help. You can be rich and miserable, you can be sick and happy and you can be proud and broken. Don't mistake someone's struggle with just a bad for days. I pray you never have to understand what the difference between sadness and depression is
“Greatest challenge I face is trying to convince ppl that depression isn’t a sign of weakness” rlly got me
I found a book some time ago. It was called "Depression - the illness of strong people". At first it sounded so...weird to me. Sounded like a paradox. But then I started reading it and it made sense: it said that strong people have to support both themselves and the weak ones around them, who at the first sign of trouble give up and hang like dead weights onto the strong ones, filling the air with wails and complains. And someday it just becomes too much to bear for these strong ones. While the weak don't get depressed because they don't even fight, they just readily give up and then wait to be supported by the others.
I hadn't thought about it that way.😳
Não mesmo, é uma doença perigosa que mata os sonhos em vida, uma doença universal, sou do Brasil e lido com esse transtorno.
Maybe people should just get over needing to be strong. I feel like a weak person at least in some aspects in life and it's okay. As long as everything is managed and things get done. We all have weaknesses and strengths.
Depression the common cold of mental illhealth with at least 1:4 suffering at some point. It can get better
It is a sign of weakness, though. There's a reason why the military won't allow mentally ill to serve. They're a weak link and a liability.
"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad."
I told myself this. It's not easy living with depression. The pain is just excruciating.
Even more if you have a good job with a good finantial situation
It’s day by day because chronic depression and sadness are two different things. Even temporary depression that recovers is not the same as sad. Also bipolar disorder with depression is different too. It’s not just black and white. It’s a spectrum. Also, depression doesn’t have to be a diagnosis/cause. It can just be a symptom. So in order to treat it, you would treat it as a cause or symptom based on your diagnosis. Like having your physical health, an bad environment, an addiction, a death, etc. The cause is the situation leading to a symptom of depression. For it to be a cause/diagnosis, it would be clinical depression. Also, mood instability tends to get mistaken for depression or bipolar disorder. So would you need a mood stabilizer, an anti depressant, an antipsychotic, or an SSRI? Honestly, you can mix them for different things. It’s also a lot of the time hereditary. So genetics, environment, illnesses, social habits, physical treatment, etc. This isn’t including anxiety, ADHD, ADD, PMDD, PTSD, OCD, schizophrenia, borderline, etc.
@@nicolasdiez7688 A good job with a good financial situation makes it worse. It means you’re the one with the most responsibility in the home and on your shoulders. The state of mental health doesn’t change or get better because of a good job and good pay. In fact, there’s more stress due to the responsibility. If you’re making that money, it’s you’re working overtime, weekends, side jobs, night shifts, on-call, etc. Working an extra job for that bonus. It’s not just free money, and just because it looks financially stable, doesn’t mean it is because of your take-home. It’s hard not to be depressed when you work so much. A
@@masongallagher6634 now imagine being a therapist who's feeling like this
Yep. It’s even more fun when OTHER people tell you that you have no reason to be depressed.
The sun is shining outside, so what’s to be sad about?
We don’t fake being depressed. We fake being happy.
Exactly!!!
Yes, until we can’t fake it anymore
Well yea except all the people who like to say they’re depressed because they “think it’s cool” to be “different”
Kat, after decades of antidepressants, I learned my depression was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2
@@carolcole570 but d3 is for calcium??
dr. charles never fails to make me cry. he treats everyone with the compassion and softness i wish real psychiatrists did. i'm sure there out there, but i can't find them.
@@lila2986 not many
@@lila2986 as a person who worked in the prestigious hospitals in America Aetna is a nightmare for a lot of hospitals and getting authorizations. The best would be blue shield ppo and anthem ppo or Medicare with supplemental insurance. Or anthem blue shield. You may have gotten lucky with yours under Aetna but they are a nightmare that's why some are forced to see someone else especially for cancer patients.
Maybe you're just not a good patient yourself
@@johnwt7333 wow, that's a pretty awful thing to say to someone. hope you're doing fine
@@lila2986 man i don't know what you do for a living but most of us can't choose our insurance. even on the marketplace, my choices were a crap cigna plan or paying hundreds of dollars a month i don't have in premiums and deductibles. i don't know if aetna's even on the marketplace, damn sure couldn't afford a policy without that subsidy. also worth pointing out psychiatrists typically only handle meds - you get 15 minutes to ID a med, figure out a dosage, check in on side effects/if it's working, and that's it. what most people think of as a psychiatrist is actually just a master's level therapist, and there are plenty of good ones out there.
"you don't need an excuse man, you're human being." One of the most true sentences ever spoken.
THAT PART‼️
"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad."
That line is EXACTLY what made me realize my depression was real and valid. My life is/was great by standards...but I just couldn't BE happy or even content. Therapy and medication has saved me (and kindness to myself)
I'm happy you've been able to get help for yourself. Keep up the good work.
The kindness and grace for yourself is the biggest and most difficult step! ❤
I mean… if you have reasonably strong empathy, you have every reason to be sad. Look at the world. Look at all the hate being spewed, look at the tyrants and wannabe tyrants who market in fear of the “other”. I have some degree of depression. But it’s not about how I, individually, will do, I know I am capable. It’s about the big picture, whether others will be okay. Or if our rights will be trampled.
same here. i could not survive without my meds.
Well done for seeking help when you discovered you needed it. You hang in there. I have that challenge myself, and have had it for 15 years. You have no reason to justify how you're feeling. You have every right to be kind to you, and feel how you feel. Wish you the very best.
Depression is exhausting. It's exhausting to live. It's exhausting to not want to. It's exhausting.
I too, am exhausted
I recently lost my job because of my depressive episodes. The fact that this TV doctor handled it better than anyone I spoke to is...something.
Hugssss!!!!!
Completely understand. They don't get it nor do they want to..... If I didn't have twenty years of therapy under my belt.....
Hi Ross I hope you feeling better now. Im sorry about your job.
He is a TV doctor. No real life doctor would behave like this, even if caring and professional.
I love Dr Charles but half of the things he does is soooo unrealistic.
You cannot detain someone only because you "know their type" and they explained their accident in too many details.
Sorry, Bro. That sucks and you deserve better.
I feel so so bad for Cooper-Ross 9495
"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad"
"You don't need an excuse you're a human being"
I wish someone would have said this sooner. Thank you Dr. Charles.
My depression was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2
@@carolcole570good for you, my depression is complex
@@musicalsaber6433 EVERYONE’S depression is complex, Saber. My own was diagnosed as Clinical Depression. Everyone in my life that I loved and depended on……..died. One by one. What started out as mere Depression went into Clinical Depression since the losses kept building on each other. Et voil’a…….antidepressants. And when one would stop working to its maximum, it was time to switch to another and then another. I did this for over 45 years, UNTIL I saw a video saying that it MIGHT be a vitamin deficiency. I didn’t believe it, but was so desperate for help that I would have tried almost anything. I was intelligent enough not to stop my meds cold turkey, though. I continued taking them AND started ALSO taking the specific vitamins. After two months, knowing the vitamins were fully in my system, I chose to stop the meds. Noooooo problem ! Yes, I was shocked ! And I have never regretted my decision for a minute. Now, I am not saying that the vitamins will 100% be the cure for everyone. But, I AM saying that “ dollar to donuts, everyone’s depression IS at least PARTLY caused by a deficiency in those vitamins “. Isn’t it worth a million dollars to just TRY it ? Even if it only helps 50%, isn’t it WORTH the 50% to at least TRY it ? Well, this is your own decision, Saber. I wish you well. And now, I am going to get some much needed sleep !❤️
That "isn't it exhausting?" Line got me me. As someone with depression, is feels so good just to let go.
The thing that hits me hardest is that he was crying, but still smiling and trying to act.
im a master at that
Honestly, depression is the opposite of weakness. It's just the weight after you've fought for too long and you can't keep going it alone.
I don’t believe I had it or only a little compared to other people.
I wasn’t that smart a kid at school. Always behind. Borderline dyslexic.
In order for me to catch up I had to be something I wasn’t. I spent my whole life proving people wrong.
But at the end of it, I was so tired. Fighting the world. Being something I wasn’t.
The shame you feel, especially when you have family with a “traditional mindset of get on with it.
When everything is handed to you in a silver platter and lived a comfortable life, it's difficult to accept and admit when you have depression. It feels like you have no right to be sad.
Sadly, the lie of depression isn't affected by reality.
You have no clue what depression is.
@jenbk2 bk2 As someone officially diagnosed with clinical depression, and who has lived both with everything I could ever need, and gone without basic necessities, depression doesn't discriminate. Your depression does not give a holy damn whether your situation improves or not, it will still find a way to drag you down. The guilt that comes with living comfortably and still being miserable is a killer all on its own. I live both a very high stress, yet comfortable life, I don't struggle financially, but rather with my family. There are so many components that go into why one might be depressed.
Living a comfortable life =/= Happy.
I've struggled with suicide. My father committed suicide, my mother had an attempt that hospitalized her, I stopped a friend at school mid serious injury (they were hospitalized.) Each one of these situations was vastly different, they each had different outcomes, they were each under unique circumstances. Depression does not discriminate.
That's one thing I try to teach people. You don't need an excuse to be sad. You're human, therefore you are sad.
This is exactly why I love doctor Charles, it was so easy to just send this guy away but he knew there was something wrong and he wasn’t going to give up until that man got help.
Except this is malpractice and unethical, even though it turned out he was right. You need a reason, like observable and documentable, and not just I got that vibe from him.
@@gamingwhilebroken2355 SHUT UP
“I have absolutely no excuse to be sad”
Really hit personally for me. I have a good life, a good family, people who love me. Yet I still get in deep depressive episodes from time to time. I get so mad at myself whenever I feel that way, because I always believe I have no reason to be sad when people out there have it worse than I do. But everyone needs to be reminded that no matter who you are, where you come from, or how you live, your feelings are always valid. The human brain works in funky ways, and sometimes we have terrible emotions we can’t control. We just have to remind ourselves that we are human, and what we feel is nothing to be ashamed of
Being “sad” and being depressed are 2 different things …
Everything is going to be okay. You are loved and you are appreciated and I know that we will probably never meet but I hear you and I want to let you know that you are NOT alone. You can get out of this, you can do this, hang in there. Sometimes we got to fall to get back up even stronger. I know it's going to be hard but you're built for it, kid. There is no shame in asking for help
@@mindyourbusinesbro6813 I learned that in my teens. I googled what it meant to feel lonely and sad sometimes and it said that was depression.
I feel you so deeply. I'm still trying to learn to forgive myself everytime I have these episodes 😢
So, they put him up in Psych., but let him keep his tie? Riiight...
Maybe it’s a clip-on 😂
@@molly-zx9cr 🤣🤣🤣
Lol 😂 they should hire you to be a script writer since you clearly have more sense August
Hes in a psych observatory being monitored 24/7. You got a point but still it wont be that easy to pull off suicide in that situation. Also the patient was in denial of being suicidal so I dont think he will try any of that sort while hes being watched. His vision was to die "accidentally" so he isnt viewed as a weak minded sad individual.
@@thatomash7689 🤣Thank you. Thank you. ***takes a bow
It infuriates me when adults tell kids they have nothing to be depressed about .
Especially when they have many things going on with them.
This episode touched me hard. Because so many times I was depressed but forced to convince myself and others that I was fine since I got a life that many many people would kill to have. I was born and raised in a middle-up class family, I got blessed with parents that love and support me in everything who also put me through a decent school and university. That is why I refused to be seen as someone depressed, because in my eyes I had no excuse to feel unhappy. But I've learned that anyone can be sad or depressed because it's a human thing to have emotions
Everyone deals with a level of stress or anxiety, and sometimes, I would say often, it can translate right into depression. Depression and anxiety alone affect at least 2/3rds of the world.
cheer up
I feel this so hard. I grew up the same way, I am surrounded by people that love me and support me more than anything. Yet still, I'd rather not be here, but I would never show or admit that to the ones I love. You aren't alone either ❤
@@lauracoates8026 Losing a child is something you never truly get over. I'm sorry that among other things have happened and I hope you still find peace during your days.
@@lauracoates8026 Some people have very closed minds, and can assume that you're fine because of the things you have. It's better to ask why you feel that way than to assume you're fine because your life sounds great on the surface.
You're welcome.
My dad killed himself in depression. He denied and didn’t let us know until he took his own life. Not only we lost him that day, we lost part of ourselves. Depression is something that needs to be treated right away. After 10 years of loosing him, our entire family is shattered and walking on eggshells around us. It’s been so hard.
Losing a loving parent is (like) losing a part of oneself. I feel your pain, even though my Dad died of other causes than depression. Stay strong, take care of yourself 💪
After decades of antidepressants, my depression was caused by a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2
@@carolcole570 really?? I mean docs try to tell me all the time vitamin d helps with this but it never seems to help when they prescribe it. I could be different as everyone's brain chemistry and causation is different, but I'd love to know if there's other factors. I have many vitamin deficiancies/anemia. how'd they find out?
@@OutcastDimensionTCG All I can tell you is my own experience. When I heard Dr. Berg say this, I started taking the D3+K2 immediately…..along with my antidepressant. I chose to wait for two full months and one day stopped the antidepressant. I was thrilled to find that I no longer had to take the antidepressant anymore ! I had chosen to take 20,000 IU of the D3+K2. Since then, I am still learning about it. I have learned how important K2 is, but it is always sold as mcg, and actually works better if it is 45 MG (not mcg). I found the 45 MG just yesterday, delivering to me today ! Also, I have learned that Zinc Picolinate plus a hefty dose of Magnesium is even more beneficial with it. Look for the list and explanations of what each kind of Magnesium will do. Choose the one that relates to you. If you are extremely depressed, you may need to try as much as 40,000 IU for a few months, then maybe drop to 30,000 for a few months, then further. It is you….experimenting. In the midst of all this, your Labs will go high and your doctors will freak. When they freak, I back off for a month, THEN ramp it back up. Keep searching to see what Dr. Berg is putting out…..EVEN his “ short “ videos. I think it was one of his “ shorts “ where I learned about the 45 MG for K2. I really really hope that something I have said has helped.❤️
Counseling helps .
"trust me I will not keep you more than a minute"
Proceeds to put him on psychiatric hold.
Psychiatrists do tend to be duplicitous.
Watching the psych slowly chip away at the patient’s emotional layers but by bit. And the endless persistence too!
Emotional abuse... but it's a doctor so it's okay?
To get him help for suicidal tendencies that almost involved an innocent driver… yes
@@reyreynoldswinchester8757 The doctor had zero concrete evidence of this. His behavior would not be justified legally.
It was not emotional abuse.@@marywynne7931
Involuntary treatment is unethical.
I wish I could find a psychiatrist like Dr Charles. He actually listens.
After decades of antidepressants, my depression was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2
@@carolcole570. Which is why test should be done.
Same here.
This doctor has a way of making people break. Sad part is, most doctors will just ask you if you did and try to off yourself on purpose and if you give them a convincing enough no, they will send you on your way unless they could prove otherwise such as toxicology reports from a OD and not just an X-ray of a leg. We need more people like who play Dr Charles in the show who genuinely wants to help people.
Because you need a tangible reason to remove someone’s rights. This incident would likely get dr Charles in legal trouble in real life.
Taking away free will as a psychiatrist is a huge mistake if there isnt info to back it up. It’s just like any other job. Theres huge negative consequences. What could be acceptable is a hunch from years of experience with the patient
So first clue that no one involved in this episode has been on/seen a psych hold… the person alleged to try self termination is still wearing a freaking neck tie as well as shoes with laces. For a show that handles a lot of psychiatric involved cases you’d think they’d get the simple bits right.
The accuracy of this entire show is pitiful
@@jaceyrogers5244oh absolutely but it’s also very funny if u look at it like that
That's an extremely good eye. I didn't notice, and I've been in that hold before. I know the drill.
Very good point. This fat lummox seems real good at getting people to cry. If yur not depressed when you go in under his care, you sure will be by the time they come back from station break
The room could have cameras. A lot of wards have temporary rooms they hold you in with cameras and security watching 24/7.
When I was seeing a psychologist for therapy because I knew I needed help dealing with depression, one of the things his office had all patients do once every 6 months or so was a multiple-choice quiz. Questions like “how have you been feeling lately” and “how do you feel your grades are” (it was on campus). I filled it out and was super proud of my progress! I’m so much happier! Everything is great!
I was shocked when he sat me down and very gently asked me what was going on. I thought my answers indicated progress towards happiness; they actually told him I was spiraling deeper into sadness. I still don’t know how, but I do know that he was literally the only person who picked up on that and because of it, I survived the winter in a much better mental place. Depression isn’t always recognizable, least of all to the bearer.
i took a personality test for work and was shocked at how much it described my stress and anxiety
You were 'pink clouding' is likely what he saw from your responses. You likely had an abrupt tick upward in happiness instead of a gradual progression (that sometimes dips back down even!) which is what normal mental health check ins would look like. Pink clouding is an abnormal uptick in happiness while dealing with depression or peace with a traumatic event without actually processing it. It's very common before... dramatic action is taken, either because they're happier now that they've decided to exit the problem or because the second the trauma really hits them, they can't handle it now that they've denied needing help.
I'm glad he identified it and you got help you needed.
@@prettyevil6662000 thank you for this explanation. I've been in therapy on and off for many years, and I don't think I've ever heard this term before.
@@prettyevil6662000 idk if I have bipolar disorder but one of my last I guess hypomanic episodes was actually triggered by a lot of stress. Actually, it was triggered around Memorial Day for me. (Basically, it's one of those hard days for me and kept thinking about my brother and other people in my life.)
After decades of antidepressants, I found it was a simple vitamin deficiency. D3+K2
"You got all those people fooled out there," is some nice projection.
Him smiling with tears falling really broke my heart and reminded me of myself
Dr Charles is so brilliant at his job too bad it's just a show. As someone who has had a long journey with mental illness anything like this hits hard not that I've had depression but I have OCD and social anxiety. This show does a brilliant job of showing mental illnesses without judgement
Trying to hold that act truly is utterly exhausting. I dropped my act a long time ago to show that I really needed help, sadly I didn't have people like Dr. Charles to help me.
"My bad!"
That would be enough for a 72 hour psych hold for me.
7:48, you can literally see the mask breaking, the walls tumbling down. Poor guy just can't fight it any longer, makes my heart hurt.
Being locked up involuntarily like that ... that would make me go insane.
This made me cry, men have such a hard time with their emotions and depression. Depression in men is often confused with agressivity. A man I knew, three kids, nice wife, good job, lovely home actually bought a rope and handed himself in his home with no outward signals that he was depressed. Two beautiful successful, wealthy women I knew killed themselves with an overdose as for them their lives had been long enough. I stopped a young girl one day from jumping in front of a train, instinct told me to grab her and hold her and talk her down. Another day I passed a homeless guy as I was rushing along and then instinctively turned back and sat with him for two hours and he told me that he had decided to end his life as no one saw him anymore. We can't save them all but we can pay more attention.
I am going to bluntly say that suicide at the unknowing hands of someone else, in this case an unwitting driver, is horrifically sadistic to do.
Yes, very true. Quite selfish on the part of the self-ender. Some would-be non-existers seem fond of jumping in front of high speed locomotives. They say RR engineers end up with PTSD from these experiences. Its a horrible thing to experience.
@RaptorFromWeegee you are right. My psychologist told me he had a whole file cabinet full IOD cases, mostly from the railway service. I was confused until he said it was mostly train drivers. Btw he was not trying to gossip about his clients, I made a comment on the filing cabinet. It was a beautiful vintage looking piece. Looked like an old-fashioned steamer trunk.
@@RaptorFromWeegee It’s horrible wanting to die too.
But that’s no excuse to put your blood on someone else’s hands.
It's not like they are in charge of their faculties.
"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad."
Well that hit harder than a sack of bricks. Yikes.
“Just do it without making my life harder” love ms goodwin so much
The "I can actually" was one of the most boss responses Dr. Charles ever had to people
The biggest red flag to me was the sadness when he said not to bother his wife with this since she just billed 80 hours last week. I AM a wife and that is ludicrous. He genuinely believes he is a burden to her. Clearly depression. Very sad
It's not about how good your life is or how sad you are... it's all in your brain chemistry, and it's no one's fault or a sign of weakness. Depression is a real mental illness and should always be taken seriously, and sometimes people with depression need a little tough love to help them realize that they need help ❤
Dr. Charles is far and away the best character on this show
Sadness and depression are not the same thing. Sadness is a symptom of depression.
The worst thing about depression is being convinced you have absolutely no right to be sad or feeling down all the time, yet the pain still continues even though you know a lot of people would love or kill to be where you're at, yet, the pain seems to never leave
Okay so OBVIOUSLY I don’t agree with putting a patient in involuntary psychiatric hold with no evidence other than a hunch & it would probably never happen. BUT this still got me. Depression can cause so much shame and the desperation to hide it becomes almost second nature. I only sought help when my best friend sat me down and told me she didn’t even recognise me anymore. I made a Dr appointment and ended up breaking down in her office when she said “you don’t have to pretend to be okay if you’re not”. You can have a good job, a good family, a “happy” life, and still suffer from mental illness. As Dr Charles says, it’s not a sign of weakness. Hiding the pain is only going to make it worse
Yeah, I think they gotta be able to articulate and document clear and present signs that the pt is an imminent danger to self or others. Guess too many housewives got frivolously committed back in the 50s so hubby could catch a break from the nagging.
In real life they'd have probably just tried to persuade the guy to voluntarily seek out-patient care.
Yeah this isn’t a realistic depiction at all, it’s not how it works in the real world. You can’t hold someone for a “hunch”
@@AlasBabylonxxif you watch the show you would know that they are allowed to put a patient on 24 hour hold before of something they see. Yes it’s unrealistic but its how they do it in the show
Then he was put in a psych ward and treated like an object for a few weeks
this is so important to understand. depression is the illness that tells you it doesn’t exist. depression tells you you’re not good enough to have it, or you’re too good. depression tells you that you’re not depressed, just stupid and selfish and lazy and ungrateful. depression can go step on a lego. *you don’t need to be “deserving” to get the help you need.*
This actor who has depression is brilliant!
Agree
Being sad is a normal human emotion and shouldn't be stigmatized! Its ok to feel any emotion you are feeling! Dr Charles is great! Nobody has a perfect life!
It's a struggle every day of every second. Grief is the worst, too. I wanted to do this the other day, but I didn't. It's exhausting and tiring
As someone who's had depression since their early twenties, this hit me hard. Back then I had a difficult time but my parents made sure I took my medicine and even monitored me. Fourteen years later I am still keeping myself going. But the way this guy is acting? My youngest sister does act this way except she buries her emotions but react hostile if she upsets you. I'm in my thirties and gotten to that point where she starts arguments to get reactions or attention. To her feeling human makes her weak. There's times I do wish she sees that her family loves her instead of running from her problems.
This one gets me every time. So many people think that depression is something that happens because of something going wrong with a person's life. It's not. You can have everything going right in your life and just one morning wake up and still be depressed. And it's not about being sad. It's about feeling as if the whole world is falling around you. It's about a weight in the chest that you can't get rid of. It's about not being able to get out of bed even when you're completely capable of it. It's about panicking when everything closes around you. There's this image of people with depression as if they've done something or something was done to them. What gets me about this episode is when Dr. Charles says, "You don't need an excuse, man. You're a human being." And it's so freaking true. Some are lucky enough that it never happens to them. Others have it even when they have everything right in their life. I think people need to stop telling people who have depression what depression is. People need to listen more. People need to look for the signs, like Dr. Charles did here. He automatically KNEW.
I think I might have bipolar but the last few years, whenever something serious happened I would usually get I guess hypomanic or really energetic for days (sometimes it wasn't even caused by stress but usually was.) Once the situation went away, I was depressed. Even this last week and even yesterday, I accidentally looked at something that brought on I guess flashbacks from the past and stuff which triggered an episode.
@@trinitylivingston1286 I'm sorry to hear that. It must be really frightening. I get the depressed part. I have clinical depression in addition to anxiety. I don't really get manic though. But it must be super difficult and confusing when that happens. And then to swing over to being depressed must be scary. I get triggers all the time. When I hear loud noises I automatically panic. Part of my PTSD. And when I see the clouds outside, I automatically start feeling depressed. It sounds to me like you have the same. Have you tried talking to a therapist? If you find the right one, it can make a world of difference. Bipolar is hard to control and can end up with a lot of problems in your life because of it. A therapist could help you with that. I've been in therapy for over 20 years and it's helped me a lot. I went from being scared, alone, angry, and panicky to being able to manage my symptoms and control my life. And it's due to my therapists and all the hard work I did with them. They could help you with this.
Great husband. Three beautiful kids. Beautiful home. Yes, my kids are special needs - but they all get wonderful services and are WONDERFUL CHILDREN and humans.
I have absolutely no excuse to be sad.
But I am.
OMG this was a story in a tv show called URBAN LEGENDS.... A college student had to choose a subject for a psychiatry class, he CHOSE TO GO TO A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, PRETEND TO BE CRAZY AND SEE IF HE GETS HIMSELF ADMITTED AND HE DID IT BUT HE ENDED UP MAKING HIMSELF AN INVOLUNTARY PATIENT😮😮😮
There was an experiment where a psych had students who went to different hospitals and pretend to show symptoms to see if they could get admitted, they did, then they were told to act completely normal, like their true self, after being admitted to see how long it would take for them to be discharged. In the end the teacher had to go to the hospitals and explain the experiment to get them out because they were still stuck in there.
Only going back to studying psych now after a bit of a break so can’t remember the name but should be able to Google it.
@@AlishaField1609 that sounds really interesting and kinda scary at the same time, if you ever remember what it was i'd love to know
@@AlishaField1609 A very dangerous and expensive game to play. That stuff doesn't come cheap plus it stays on your record and can later disadvantage you.
LOL, wouldn't it a been funny if these were just the psych students the professor separated off cause he thought they really were crazy? Like he jus wanted to get rid of them and this was easier than moving for an expulsion.
Nelly Bly famously did it “first” back in 1887. She ended up spending 10 days in the mental hospital.
You can read her article about it if you Google “Ten days in a mad-house; or, Nellie Bly's experience on Blackwell's island. Feigning insanity in order to reveal asylum horrors”
YES there was a Netflix movie based on her too with Christina Ricci. SO good!!
Yeah, this would never hold up. No evaluation, no proof. He could absolutely sue. It's considered medical kidnapping. This is a terrible depiction of involuntary medical hold.
It's a tv show.
There should be a suspension of disbelief.
Get a brain.
They can do what was shown
If it's suspected someone tried to end their own life and an x-ray shows proof of that and the person gives a way to in depth detailed description and refuses to repeat themselves and is insisting they can go home and does whatever they can to get out of the hospital fast
That's a sign to put them in a psychiatric hold
@@DespairKarma nope, there still has to be an evaluation. Accidents happen.
@@DespairKarma I've been hit by vehicles while walking. I didn't jump in front
It's a TV show...of course they are going to exaggerate a situation to try to make a point and teach a lesson
Life hurts it's ok not to be ok as long as you get help ❤
One of the worst parts is, he was probably trying to convince himself it was an accident as well
A certain amount of people with successful jobs and lives have achieved them precisely because of mental illness, because they always need to be in control in an attempt to manage their inner problems.
Yeah, my grandfather was like that. Total control freak, perfectionist, workaholic, high achiever, both a lawyer and a CPA, probably had OCPD. Dad said he was very difficult to live with.
Finally in his late middle aged years he had some kind of breakdown. He was said to suffer from "nervous exhaustion". Treated by a prominent New York Dr, they made him move out of his nice Westchester home and into the McAlpin Hotel, near his job.
He was forced to relax and take on only minimal work. Had to eat a lot of rich high protein foods, no meds. He got better, moved home, but moved into his den for a period of time for some reason. Only after he was much better could he move back into his marital bedroom.
Honestly.. when you get to the depth of this story, it’s probably one of the most powerful messages I’ve ever seen in any show.
“no- no! you cant do this!”
“uhm actually i can”
LOOOOOL
The tears were silently streaming down my face that was so beautifully portayed. I tried so hard to hide the damage from the abuse and torture and Bipolar and BDD and cPTSD for so long, believing like I'd been told my whole life that it was a failing in me, my fault, all I'm worth and all I deserve...until I was shown it wasn't. It's so hard sometimes, and I'll be in treatment and taking meds for the rest of my life, but I am taking some of my life back more every day. Please, if you are suffering, please know it's not your fault and please believe you deserve all of the help and support that's there for you.
Prayers ❤
@@truenokill Thank you!
I'm glad you're doing better! ❤
@Max-wz6cu That's so nice of you to say, thank you!
@@LadyMelmo. Your welcome. Wishing all the love ❤️❤️
I think we all suffer from some form of depression..most of the time i think it stems from feeling alone..facing life and all it's ups & downs with no one to talk to..no one we feel will truly understand. I'm only a cashier but most days i ask strangers simple questions that lead them to talk a little about their lives. I see a light in their eyes just by me taking a true interest in them & it makes their day & mine. I once had a co worker tell me i just brighten up a room without noticing. Looking back now..i can see what she meant. It's because i truly care about a person & how their day is going..even if they were a complete stranger.
So you suspect him as a suicide risk but let him keep his tie which easily can be used to strangle himself
Clip on?
His “You’re not alone” had a deeper meaning than him just saying, “you’re not alone”.❤
I wish not only did more people with Depression see this, but those around them reminding them about all the great things in their life and why they have no reason to be depressed could also see this
Honestly, hearing the words “I have no excuse to be sad” just makes me think of my own depression. I have an amazing life, wonderful parents, a great sister, friends who care for me. Depression doesn’t care. It just is. And that’s okay, because it’s okay to not be okay.
Dude gave an "over-detailed" explanation 🙄😂 I do that constantly because of ADHD, I explain every unecessary detail. Hope it doesn't get me committed
I'm afraid its too late Kaci, I've already contracted Earl, he's going to take you someplace quiet. And sorry but you'll have to share a room with that suicidal lawyer. Short of beds.
I mean you didn't step in front of a car and you probably don't have that look in your eyes/face, everyone who's sucidal has.
So you're good lol
@@Taro_liamwhat’s that look exactly?
"no past history of depression."
according to American Journal of Preventive Medicine. 60% of men who commit suicide have no prediagnosed mental illness.
so history of not having diagnosed depression is a complete void argument.
I've been dealing with depression for a while now, after my parents and grandparents passed away I became emotionally numb so now when my depression hits it's very intense I have good days the bad days are the utmost worst sometimes I feel like I could cry for days or weeks
I sincerely hope you have more good days than bad, Samantha; it must be exhausting to have your emotions go up and down all the time 😕
@@PuffKitty It can be exhausting but I do try to keep myself busy
I'm on that level
"I know the type" "Way too detailed" Ah yes, right out of the DSM-V...
well, yes. these are called symptoms.
I didn't recognize my depression until my sister sat me down because she saw it because I couldn't do anything anymore
That's great.
Hope all goes well.
@@louiscyphre2267 I'm in therapy, on meds, and moved into my sister's house. I'm doing much better than I was
Yeah, feeling depressed when things are going well is SO frustrating. Because there’s no “fix”. Like if something is specifically bringing you down, you can try to change it. But when there’s no cause, there’s nothing external to try and resolve to improve your depression. It SUCKS
I agree with dr Charles. I’m not weak because I have depression, I’m strong cos I live through it every day and keep going.
Depression can affect anyone, even people who have everything they want in life.
Whew! This episode hits too close to home, i used to think i had nothing to be sad about wondering why am i not happy nothing is wrong with my life.. but than i had to learn sometimes depression has a way of sneaking up on you and its not your fault , its okay to get help , thank god for me getting better day by day.
Wow! We need more and more this type of precisely observating psychartist who great in their job understanding hidden minds!❤❤❤
When he said he had no excuse to be sad really got to me 😢
This made me cry - what great acting and such a powerful message.
This show is about a psychiatrist who never believes patients. In real life, these patients are traumatised by this type of behaviour by doctors.
How are you doing, a year later? Have you overcome your own depression?
‘I have absolutely no excuse to be sad.’ I wonder how Dr Charles would respond to ‘I have absolutely no REASON to be sad’
bro him threatening a psych hold is out of pocket. once that happens, the rest of your medical care is compromised. no one will believe you for the rest of your life and it prevents you from getting actual care that you need.
Will the stigma of mental healthy problems ever go away
Wow! What scenes. I think the man who plays the doctor is such a good actor. The younger man did a good job. The direction and editing is excellent. And it’s a very needed topic to cover. Thanks. :) 😒🌷🌱
Depression makes you into an actor. How good you can play the role is up to you. I remember I used to mask it as ambivalence to the world, then the frequent episodes of extreme happiness then extreme sadness, then the mask fell and I couldn’t fake anymore. I’ve been up and down but now I’m surviving thanks to the people I love
Damn, that actor NAILED it! The subtlety in his performance was astonishing. Made me cry when he finally let it drop
Well, I’m a registered nurse at 37 years and I was recently in the hospital and they did several things against my specific wishes being a medical person does not give you the license to do any damn thing you want. It’s a man wants help he ask for it otherwise leave him alone.
Oh man, I felt this. I've dealt with depression and it's so hard when there truly is no reason to be sad. I've got a blest life. But hormone imbalance can make things feel scary and dark. Thankfully I was never suicidal and I have a wonderful family that loves me, plus I'm a Christian who knows God loves me and cares for me, so I've never had to "perform" or fake happiness. And I'm a lot better after discovering the physical causes of my issues.
Boy, I can certainly relate, having suffered depression most of my adult life. It doesn't help having a fiancé who says that there is no such thing as depression, that I'm making a conscious choice to feel sad. It makes you realize how alone you are, even in a room full of people. I just try to talk myself out of it and analyze what I'm feeling. It helps sometimes.
“I can actually.”
Idk why but that sounded like the most epic unintentional roast ever
I've broken my leg (spiral fracture of the tib and fib, pretty much one of the worst ways you can break it) and major depressive disorder. What honestly surprised me the most about breaking my leg was how much easier it was to deal with.
Remember: People don't pretend to be sad. They pretend to be happy. That said, I wish Dr. Charles were real.
I've lived through bad abuse till my early 20s. It's been tough, I've been in and out of therapy once i could afford it. But i was never suicidal... until 25. When my life was completely on track. Safe, flourishing, great friends. And somehow i was still depressed. "I have no excuse to be sad" hits extra hard. It somehow becomes worse when it gets better.
Literally me and a wonderful night shift dr in the psych Dept a year or two ago… good Drs are out there
Depression is a silent killer. I am feeling this so much.
This guy is great
He has the sadness and desperation in his eyes
Depression isn’t sadness. It’s something deeper, more lingering.
“i have absolutely no reason to be sad”
They way he treats him like a criminal, is quite unpleasant.
He never treated him like a criminal. Did you watch the video?
This is similar to my revelation. I always thought that depression is just being bummed out, but it can manifest in many forms. For me it was a short temper and breaking things, because I couldn't think of anything else to do. Then I listened to an NPR show about male depression that ticked a lot of boxes for me and got checked out. I'm still depressed, but have better control of my life.
I like the details they put on the actors, like in 2:32, you can see Dr Charles' shirt with stain under his coat, and the disheveled look that shows he had a rough week.
Real doctors have that... and it shows their vulnerable human side. From those clues, we could see how good they are, just like the first time Holmes met Watson!
This was SUCH a stretch. Yes lawyers are known to be depressed and high stressed. But the simple fact that he got hit above the knee was beyond stretched for this case.
"I have absolutely no excuse to be sad."
"You don't need an excuse, man, you're a human being"
that hits harder than expected
I honestly don’t understand this. Is someone knows they have nothing to be sad about but continues to be sad for what ? Especially people who actually live their dreams out and actually have what they want . There’s absolutely no reason they should be depressed. And my thing is apparently everyone mixes DEPRESSION with SADNESS and their both 2 very different things . But this world now a days wants to call everyone and everything depressed and depression. It’s so annoying to people who actually have depression. If your sad you are not depressed.
@@mindyourbusinesbro6813 Sadness is temporary, there's an obvious cause and in time it fades.
Depression is a disease that, without proper treatment, will take everything from you. Until you get help.
You can be rich and miserable, you can be sick and happy and you can be proud and broken. Don't mistake someone's struggle with just a bad for days. I pray you never have to understand what the difference between sadness and depression is