I saw Zach Hill play with his very first band “Legs on Earth” in college back around 2000. It was mind-blowing. Some random Thursday at about noon on a tiny outdoor stage while people were walking to and from class. I had no intention of watching a show, but I watched the entire effing thing. Better believe I bought a CD too. Had Zach sign it about 10 years later on a solo tour through my town. He asked where the hell I got it. I told him and he said he totally remembered that show. Even he said it was a super weird show. Zach Hill has gone on to release tons of insanely original music and play with other absolutely world class musicians, and I saw him at the very beginning of it all. Cool.
Jazz Drummer first time listening to Hella: "Whoa... this is crazy" Everyone else first time listening to Hella: "Whoa... this is crazy" Zach Hill, the equalizer
Lol, my friends told me that Hella sounded like someone had just wrote 100 different riffs and decided to play them all back to back. But I still listened to them all thru the 2000's. there is no 666 in outerspace
“Organized chaos” well said. The fact that he can replicate every song without missing a note every time he performs speaks volumes on how intricate and how much effort he’s put into his work.
That's a great point. I hadn't thought of this til watching this video actually. What he does is amazing, but many others could probably improvise something similar. So few could actually write and play these sounds. It's on another level
Oh man do Brian Chippendale from Lightning Bolt if you haven't already, he gives off a similar high-energy improvisational boundary-pushing vibe and they're such a blast to watch play live
I think some metalheads acknowledge math rock being complex and wha not, like, I think Meshugah said his favorite albums Don Cab's What Burns Never Returns
I think listening to Hella’s studio recordings helps to understand that they are perfectly playing together all along and not just here and there. I love to listen to Zach supporting Wavves on tour (not his band, and a band that is normally not drum centric at all) this is how he digest music and add his energetic touch : th-cam.com/video/AAKFjnvPHTA/w-d-xo.html
i dont agree with the "creating music on the fly" statement, listen to Hold Your Horse Is and youll see its all written how its preformed. Theyre insane, very talented artists
I remember hearing in the documentary of the tour they did in Europe that they did a fair bit of improvisation on stage. Their performances are definitely looser live. Let's just say I get the guy's impression
@@Vantier Obviously they improv a little sometimes live, but listen to this version of Biblical Violence and tell me it's not almost identical to the album: th-cam.com/video/jdMDcG3zAEI/w-d-xo.html They can replicate these songs to a T, but sometimes they have some fun with tempos and improv, such as the video being reacted to here.
Hold Your Horse Is is one of the most formative albums of my childhood. So glad this dude is getting recognition by real drummers this many years on....single kick pedal!!! Also, i would argue that these songs are not improvised.
That album is hugely influential to me. Ive listened to it atleast a hundred times lol. One of my all time favs. I've hurt my neck so many times headbanging to that shit.
Justin Bennett I was at the knitting factory the first night Thomas saw Zach. His mind was blown. Thomas is an absolute beast but Zach changed the course of TMV’s music.
I remember the first time I listened to Hella. It shook me to my musical core. I literally was messed up in the head for weeks! I couldn't understand why I couldn't stop listening to it. Made me feel like I was crazy. Turns out I'm OK. Just had to get into their heads space musically. Getting over the hurdle of unfamiliarity with their music has contributed to my appreciation of so much music. I have to thank Zach for making my head explode.
"For a moment you think its nonsense and then they do shit together" There is almost no nonsense even in the live show. The guitar is sort of the guide and the drums freely follow but I'd say he's playing closely to what's on the album much of the time but with lots of flourishes. You can try to boil it down to some basic structures but he's basically got some really original grooves going on with everything in between completely filled in. Should probably mention this is my favorite band and album of all time.
That's so rad that you said "this is jazz", thanks so much for saying that. I got into punk first, jazz after that for the same reasons. It's all so similar when you look at it that way. -Huge Hella fan and huge jazz fan
I am shocked he hasn't seen Ben Koller yet! Let's make it happen guys! Oh and Kenneth Schalk from Candiria. He is a jazz drummer after all so I wanna hear his thoughts. Btw, this was Hella cool... OK I'll show myself out.
Aw shit! I almost forgot about Kenneth Shalk. Candiria's best records are worth buying just to get the last track alone. Because those songs are that fucking good.
Yo I was totally not expecting a Kenneth Schalk mention in these comments. Candiria is one of my all time favorite bands (they really fell off after their tour accident years ago but I will always love them to death). He is an absolutely amazing drummer and would love to see a reaction. Also had the pleasure of smoking weed with guy before one of their shows in Poughkeepsie, NY back in the mid 2000's. Total sweetheart.
Zach Hill's drumming got stripped of a lot of his "crazyness" with Death Grips. I love everything he does there, simple but not basic by any means, more listenable than Hella but a lot of crazy good ideas. The drum beat of "The Fever" by Death Grips is forever on loop in my head.
There’s No 666 In Outer Space by Hella shows them with more instrumentation and vocals but still keeps that raw chaos if you’re missing it from Death Grips
At first listen it sounds like Zach has toned his drumming back in Death Grips (and for a lot of their discography he definitely did dial it back), but his craziness is still very much there it's just now hidden behind electronic drum resampling things. Every single thing you hear (other than the vocals) in the entire first half of their Powers That B album is done on an electric drum kit and it features some absolute insanity
Try Been a Long Time Cousin, there is a fantastic live video that shows a bit more of his technique. It sounds like there is a lot of chaos, but it is actually, quite controlled.
I saw Hella in Austin, TX years ago. After the show I sat outside and talked to Zach, he was super humble and chill and very cool. Two interesting tidbits: he said he sprained his ankle during the show and he played with one low top Converse (kick foot) and a flip flop (high hat). What an absolute unit he is.
Hella is really crazy envelope pushing math rock a lot like Tera Melos, I really really suggest you check out an old math rock band called Piglet if you want to hear something a lot more melodic and palatable that still has the math rock complexity and attitude. I think you'd actually dig than a lot.
Thankyou for being so open minded Garrett. There's too many reaction channels that are just about whether they 'like' it. I love how you react to each drummer on their own terms, without any predisposition for how things 'should' be.
Thank you sooo much for this. I was laughing hysterically at your reaction outside of store while watching this, people were tripping on me for sure! Reason being, I've been hyped on Zach Hill for a good 15 years and he's kinda a cult figure in the music community I would say. Fans of his are kinda rabid, myself included. Your reaction was priceless, but AMEN to the second take you had with your aha moment that this is jazz 100%. "This is fucking with my worldview" - Garrett Miller ^^^ That shit had me rolling when you said that!
Hey Garrett, I saw this drummer, Zach hill, come in late for a show one time..a solo performance..He rushed down by car from Calais to Rotterdam. He came in (some old factory) placed his tapedeck in front of his drums ,pressed 'play'and played the shit outta his kit. Leaving everybody present speechless in amaze..but you were right..its a jazz descendent. Best solo act i ever saw though..
Welcome to the world of Math Rock, dude! Zach Hill is a BEAST. If you want to see some emotive drumming if whole different order, I highly recommend taking a look at Kashikura Takashi from the math/post rock band Toe. Three favourites: Goodbye (album version), All I Understand is That I Don't Understand, and C.
if you like that you gotta check out his other stuff, and other math rock more broadly. john clardy from tera melos and ken kennerson from giraffes? giraffes! are great examples of adjacent stuff to this that's a little more digestible
Hella are always on the absolute cusp of losing control... but are always IN control. It's fucking beautiful. Makes alot more sense on the studio recordings :)
I really appreciated the honest reaction. You didn’t act like your mind was being blown like every other reaction video. Hella can be kind of hard to digest because they’re so fucking wild, and your reaction was pretty much my first reaction as well. Those dudes make art and sometimes great art doesn’t sink in immediately. Anyways, keep it up! I just subbed.
Listen to the Studio version. Everything is way more structured than it seems. Very unique music language. You should listen to more math rock stuff. Nuito, Giraffes giraffes too
You actually will love Don Caballero. Its got healthy doses of JAZZ, some ridiculous drumming and yet more... concise songs. They're wild jams for sure, but they were, I'd say, less about playing everything as fast or crazy as possible, and more about making every song distinct in time and feel in unique ways. Every song is like a study in rhythmic possiblities, while still feeling more like a song.
I've seen Hella before... met him once or twice. His kit is definitely lower, and at probably over 6ft he towers over the thing. Dude's jacked from such a visceral and ferocious style of playing. Check out his Death Grips rehearsal clips.
Hella were tail end of the “math rock” movement, which as you correctly identified, was kind like jazz as expressed through the punk rock filter. Other bands in the genre worth looking up include Don Caberello, Polvo, Battles, and on the softer-emo-ish end of the spectrum, American Football. These days Zack plays for the experimental hip-hop act Death Grips.
I'm so glad you finally got to this haha Zach Hill is my all time favorite drummer, organized chaos is what he does best & he's an absolute beast & master at his craft. After Hella he's also most notorious for playing in the experimental Hip-Hop group Death Grips (Give em a listen when you have the time) & he's done a bunch of work with other artists including: Les Claypool from Primus, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez from The Mars Volta, Nick Reinhart from Tera Melos, Wavves, & Marnie Stern to name a few. You should definitely give drummer Brian Chippendale from Lightning Bolt/Black Pus a listen next too, he's got a similar high-energy erratic style. Kenneth Topham from the band Giraffes? Giraffes! is also a great watch as well!
Really enjoyed that vid. The way they balance on the edge of structure and chaos is cool. Sounds insane, but there's repetition and a deep order to what they're doing.
I don't know if I'd say they're similar. G!G! is way more digestable and pleasurable to listen to, Hella is a chaotic orgasm. They both push the envelope but in different corners.
Hey Garrett, I really enjoy your channel. Something to keep in mind with Hella. A lot of the time, they are playing in different meters against each other. So, you have a sliding floor effect with a jackhammer delivery. They have do composed bits (like heads) and then extrapolate on them (as do jazz musicians). Live, more so. You were right on point with that assessment.
"this is jazz" - hell(a) yeah! and a live evil reference for good measure? sheeeeeit check out the live video of Screaming Headless Torsos' "Smile in a Wave" - it's beautiful blistering jazz fusion at its ass-shaking peak 🤘
hot take at the end! love that man, great discussion about a brand new territory of music for you (and me). love the content bro keep it up. also watch David Diepold of Cognizance please :)
This is the appropriate response to hearing hella for the first time XD Btw i seriously recommend the first hella album gets 10 ish listens, then one makes it’s way back in the building ;)
@jvalex18 no it's just unusual/advanced and requires your brain some repeated listens to understand the time signatures. it all depends on what you're used to listening to. Meshuggah was like that for me at first too and modern day the band Car Bomb is famous for it's strange songwriting that takes a bit to recognize the patterns and remember them
"fucking with my... worldview" lmao exactly, "this is punk", yes (in that every ounce says fuck you), "this is jazz", yes (in that one could argue this is the be-bop of rock, which one could argue was the punk before punk), lol Every reaction to Zach Hill I've watched resulted in... speechless. I am also like 99% positive Zach does not count. He lives and breathes rhythm. Also "the guitarist" would have been the center of everyone's attention if he didn't happen to meet Mr. Hill. Spencer Seim is a beast. Everything he does is modern af. If you can write music that Zach Hill will agree to play for years. You are a BEAST!
Totally agree with the additional commentary at the end...i love a drummer who doesn't snap to a grid. Also a few similar dudes who are a little more structured are Gabe Locust, and the first Tera Melos drummer' Vince Rogers. Please keep up the hard work!
I promise you all that craziness makes sense and every hit is there intentionally haha. You can definitely find patterns if you listen closely. That dude has of the fastest right foot I've seen. Edit: I'm laughing my ass off at your reaction. That's honestly how I was the first few times listening to this and kinda to this day.
Thank you!!! Most people will laugh at it or mock it as just noise due to their own ignorance of what music, skill, and talent is. It’s hilarious these people who talk like they are experts in music and what skill, talent, etc is has never taken the time to learn any musical instrument themselves. Once you pick up an instrument and learn how to actually play your mind expands and you will have a greater understanding/appreciation of music that you normally wouldn’t listen too like Jazz, Funk, Technical Death Metal, Mathcore, etc . Of course these styles of music are not going to be most peoples cup of tea but atleast learn to respect it because it takes a lot of practice, skill, and talent. The majority of Mainstream Music and these so called “Talented Musicians” who make millions don’t even write there own music nor the lyrics they sing. They are basically just selling an Image with a voice that’s Autotuned because guess what happens when there is no Autotune on that voice? It sounds like 💩 because they cant sing. Excellent comment Byron. Bravo 👏
Please check out the albums “There’s No 666 in Outerspace” and “Day Tripper”! They are unlike anything I’ve heard! Pure experimental excellence! They’ll take you through journeys!
Yeah that 666 album really brought out the best in Zach with the full band to play along to. Definitely one of his best recordings...and same with the Cryptomnesia album he did with The Mars Volta dudes, insane high level stuff.
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I think it's worth pointing out that Zach plays with a single bass drum pedal.
This is very much worth pointing out
Jasper Skydecker and with a 8 chamber heart 😂
Jesus
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he broke his foot going nuts on his pedal playing in Japan. I think he also used pearl exports, p much the cheapest kit out there.
I saw Zach Hill play with his very first band “Legs on Earth” in college back around 2000. It was mind-blowing. Some random Thursday at about noon on a tiny outdoor stage while people were walking to and from class. I had no intention of watching a show, but I watched the entire effing thing. Better believe I bought a CD too. Had Zach sign it about 10 years later on a solo tour through my town. He asked where the hell I got it. I told him and he said he totally remembered that show. Even he said it was a super weird show. Zach Hill has gone on to release tons of insanely original music and play with other absolutely world class musicians, and I saw him at the very beginning of it all. Cool.
you're so lucky bro
This is so damn cool
Incredible story
tremendo
Post the CD
This isn’t even his full power. Just you wait until his shirt comes off
lol
yep search "zach hill face tat".
"like, this isnt my full power, its only 254%...
@*Fursonator* now that you Sam that Zach does look just like shaggy
Jazz Drummer first time listening to Hella: "Whoa... this is crazy"
Everyone else first time listening to Hella: "Whoa... this is crazy"
Zach Hill, the equalizer
Lol, my friends told me that Hella sounded like someone had just wrote 100 different riffs and decided to play them all back to back. But I still listened to them all thru the 2000's. there is no 666 in outerspace
Me, 100th time listening to hella: "Whoa... this is crazy"
Its like Captain Beefheart punk but actually written by people who know music theory
" F*****g with my world view" 😂😂😂
@@torontotonto6189 i feel like music theory can hardly even begin to crack the ice of what these 2 people play together
Zach hill’s energy and aesthetic is punk, songwriting are experimental, dynamics are metal, rhythms and techniques are jazz. Master of all genres
You should write a book!
I love the description.
Great description, so true!
“Organized chaos” well said. The fact that he can replicate every song without missing a note every time he performs speaks volumes on how intricate and how much effort he’s put into his work.
That's a great point. I hadn't thought of this til watching this video actually. What he does is amazing, but many others could probably improvise something similar. So few could actually write and play these sounds. It's on another level
He intentionally made Hella an open form band so neither ever messes up lol
Jango Bango for the most part everything is calculated but there are lots of spots where he knows he can freeroll.
It only speaks a few chapters
Oh man do Brian Chippendale from Lightning Bolt if you haven't already, he gives off a similar high-energy improvisational boundary-pushing vibe and they're such a blast to watch play live
Loudest band I ever heard, had ringing ears for a week. Was really worried I had done permanent damage.
Anything off Hypermagic Mountain
Simon Floyd off or of ? I love hypermagic mountain haha
I had to grab some tp to stuff my ears, for the first time ever!
Agreed!
Metalheads: “We’re the fastest hardest craziest musicians on the planet.”
Math Nerds: “Hold my beer”
Ever heard of The Anazazi?
I think some metalheads acknowledge math rock being complex and wha not, like, I think Meshugah said his favorite albums Don Cab's What Burns Never Returns
TheZooropaBaby metal elitists be like "nah bro metal is the only genre
Depends on the metal
Hold my calculator
Now listen to Death Grips. All of the ‘percussion’ on the first half of The Powers That B is Zach Hill playing Bjork samples on his v drums.
I think listening to Hella’s studio recordings helps to understand that they are perfectly playing together all along and not just here and there. I love to listen to Zach supporting Wavves on tour (not his band, and a band that is normally not drum centric at all) this is how he digest music and add his energetic touch : th-cam.com/video/AAKFjnvPHTA/w-d-xo.html
i dont agree with the "creating music on the fly" statement, listen to Hold Your Horse Is and youll see its all written how its preformed. Theyre insane, very talented artists
I mean yes and no. These live versions were not identical to the album by any means. The basic structure is there, but it's not the same.
I remember hearing in the documentary of the tour they did in Europe that they did a fair bit of improvisation on stage. Their performances are definitely looser live. Let's just say I get the guy's impression
@@Vantier Obviously they improv a little sometimes live, but listen to this version of Biblical Violence and tell me it's not almost identical to the album: th-cam.com/video/jdMDcG3zAEI/w-d-xo.html
They can replicate these songs to a T, but sometimes they have some fun with tempos and improv, such as the video being reacted to here.
"Hold your horse is" is such a good album, couldn't agree more. Extremely well constructed
that definitely wasn't a dig against their songwriting abilities, it was a praise of their capacity to write songs.. how they made it
Hold Your Horse Is is one of the most formative albums of my childhood. So glad this dude is getting recognition by real drummers this many years on....single kick pedal!!! Also, i would argue that these songs are not improvised.
That album is hugely influential to me. Ive listened to it atleast a hundred times lol. One of my all time favs. I've hurt my neck so many times headbanging to that shit.
Certainly not improvised. Aspects of the live performance are, but 80-90% of everything is not.
Saw them live, still have the remains of one of his drumsticks, I remember them playing everything pretty much like the album.
“There is No 666 in Outer Space”
Hold your horse is is top 5 of all time for me
Don't worry, Garrett. This is a pretty standard reaction to Zach Hill and Hella. :)
No joke! I grew up in Sacramento with them as heroes. It's a conversation between instruments, not a song. 🤣
@@thebloomintumors Me too. Love all the experimental stuff that came out of here. Definitely affected me as a creative being.
You need to hear/see Don Caballero
connor adcock I sent Garrett two recommendations.. the first was Zach Hill, the second was Damon Che/Don Cab 😁
Damon Che
i still don’t know how the hell damon does what he does with that snare placement...
And toe
Only math band I don't hate
Zach Hill - the fastest foot in the west.
Try Dan Carle.
Thomas Pridgen has a pretty wicked right foot
Justin Bennett I was at the knitting factory the first night Thomas saw Zach. His mind was blown. Thomas is an absolute beast but Zach changed the course of TMV’s music.
I can't believe how long zach hill has been a musician and he's not rrally universally recognized in the music world.
He is Indeed recognised by underground listeners
i guarantee you everyone inside the industry who matters knows who zach is
@@RKTologist you'd think hella would be on everyone's playlist
@@anthonyl9126 "inside the industry'", you're just talking about the avg pleb
Welcome to the world of music lol nobody gives a shit but musicians.
I remember the first time I listened to Hella. It shook me to my musical core. I literally was messed up in the head for weeks! I couldn't understand why I couldn't stop listening to it. Made me feel like I was crazy. Turns out I'm OK. Just had to get into their heads space musically. Getting over the hurdle of unfamiliarity with their music has contributed to my appreciation of so much music. I have to thank Zach for making my head explode.
"For a moment you think its nonsense and then they do shit together"
There is almost no nonsense even in the live show. The guitar is sort of the guide and the drums freely follow but I'd say he's playing closely to what's on the album much of the time but with lots of flourishes. You can try to boil it down to some basic structures but he's basically got some really original grooves going on with everything in between completely filled in. Should probably mention this is my favorite band and album of all time.
C N still got my og Hold Your Horse Is from the first night they were selling them at Casbah SD⚡️⚡️⚡️
Yeah all these parts are written out
Joel Jones who said they were transcribed?
That's so rad that you said "this is jazz", thanks so much for saying that. I got into punk first, jazz after that for the same reasons. It's all so similar when you look at it that way. -Huge Hella fan and huge jazz fan
I am shocked he hasn't seen Ben Koller yet! Let's make it happen guys! Oh and Kenneth Schalk from Candiria. He is a jazz drummer after all so I wanna hear his thoughts. Btw, this was Hella cool... OK I'll show myself out.
he has some sick gopro chest cams. plays so fast
Candira please! Ken definitely knows where one is!
Aw shit! I almost forgot about Kenneth Shalk. Candiria's best records are worth buying just to get the last track alone. Because those songs are that fucking good.
Yo I was totally not expecting a Kenneth Schalk mention in these comments. Candiria is one of my all time favorite bands (they really fell off after their tour accident years ago but I will always love them to death). He is an absolutely amazing drummer and would love to see a reaction. Also had the pleasure of smoking weed with guy before one of their shows in Poughkeepsie, NY back in the mid 2000's. Total sweetheart.
Third Ben Koller
Zach Hill's drumming got stripped of a lot of his "crazyness" with Death Grips. I love everything he does there, simple but not basic by any means, more listenable than Hella but a lot of crazy good ideas. The drum beat of "The Fever" by Death Grips is forever on loop in my head.
g33003030 I will check out THE FEVER
Team sleep ♥️
There’s No 666 In Outer Space by Hella shows them with more instrumentation and vocals but still keeps that raw chaos if you’re missing it from Death Grips
At first listen it sounds like Zach has toned his drumming back in Death Grips (and for a lot of their discography he definitely did dial it back), but his craziness is still very much there it's just now hidden behind electronic drum resampling things. Every single thing you hear (other than the vocals) in the entire first half of their Powers That B album is done on an electric drum kit and it features some absolute insanity
g33003030 true
“It’s fuckin’ with my worldview.”
I think that about wraps it up
Thank you so much for doing this one, I asked for Zach Hill a while back.
Try Been a Long Time Cousin, there is a fantastic live video that shows a bit more of his technique. It sounds like there is a lot of chaos, but it is actually, quite controlled.
I requested Garrett check out Zach Hill, and I’m pretty sure I specified “Been a Long Time Cousin” 😆
Yep, that's the one I recommended as well, from Concentration Face. They also did a lot more improvisation on that one.
Liam Kiely same, pretty sure it was last year haha
I saw Hella in Austin, TX years ago. After the show I sat outside and talked to Zach, he was super humble and chill and very cool. Two interesting tidbits: he said he sprained his ankle during the show and he played with one low top Converse (kick foot) and a flip flop (high hat). What an absolute unit he is.
That is the most Zach thing ive heard, love it
"What a work out my god" dude you should see his death grips rehearsal footage, he's ripped and I genuinely think it's pretty much just from drumming
Hella is really crazy envelope pushing math rock a lot like Tera Melos, I really really suggest you check out an old math rock band called Piglet if you want to hear something a lot more melodic and palatable that still has the math rock complexity and attitude. I think you'd actually dig than a lot.
Tell vince to come out with the 3 albums he promised in 2019, until then; opinion discarded
That EP is awsome!
I miss piglet so much!
I was going to say this but I thought they were too small and forgotten. Also not many videos out there of them
miss that band so much. good times.
Thankyou for being so open minded Garrett. There's too many reaction channels that are just about whether they 'like' it. I love how you react to each drummer on their own terms, without any predisposition for how things 'should' be.
I love when it hits you after the video you look younger, more engaged, inspired. Thank you for keeping your mind open and vulnerable to new insights!
Thank you sooo much for this. I was laughing hysterically at your reaction outside of store while watching this, people were tripping on me for sure! Reason being, I've been hyped on Zach Hill for a good 15 years and he's kinda a cult figure in the music community I would say. Fans of his are kinda rabid, myself included. Your reaction was priceless, but AMEN to the second take you had with your aha moment that this is jazz 100%.
"This is fucking with my worldview"
- Garrett Miller
^^^
That shit had me rolling when you said that!
Hey Garrett,
I saw this drummer, Zach hill, come in late for a show one time..a solo performance..He rushed down by car from Calais to Rotterdam. He came in (some old factory) placed his tapedeck in front of his drums ,pressed 'play'and played the shit outta his kit. Leaving everybody present speechless in amaze..but you were right..its a jazz descendent.
Best solo act i ever saw though..
Welcome to the world of Math Rock, dude! Zach Hill is a BEAST.
If you want to see some emotive drumming if whole different order, I highly recommend taking a look at Kashikura Takashi from the math/post rock band Toe. Three favourites: Goodbye (album version), All I Understand is That I Don't Understand, and C.
if you like that you gotta check out his other stuff, and other math rock more broadly. john clardy from tera melos and ken kennerson from giraffes? giraffes! are great examples of adjacent stuff to this that's a little more digestible
John Paul Zigterman clardy would be sick
Hella are always on the absolute cusp of losing control... but are always IN control. It's fucking beautiful. Makes alot more sense on the studio recordings :)
I really appreciated the honest reaction. You didn’t act like your mind was being blown like every other reaction video. Hella can be kind of hard to digest because they’re so fucking wild, and your reaction was pretty much my first reaction as well. Those dudes make art and sometimes great art doesn’t sink in immediately. Anyways, keep it up! I just subbed.
Listen to the Studio version. Everything is way more structured than it seems. Very unique music language. You should listen to more math rock stuff. Nuito, Giraffes giraffes too
“It’s fucking with my worldview” 😂😭😭😭
Don Caballero! You’ll love it.
Dude he need to wath that shit
I left a comment not long ago recommending Garrett towards math rock. Didn’t mention Hella but really hoping this is just the beginning 😊
You actually will love Don Caballero. Its got healthy doses of JAZZ, some ridiculous drumming and yet more... concise songs. They're wild jams for sure, but they were, I'd say, less about playing everything as fast or crazy as possible, and more about making every song distinct in time and feel in unique ways. Every song is like a study in rhythmic possiblities, while still feeling more like a song.
mdab0123 all day
Zach Hill... Finally!
I've seen Hella before...
met him once or twice.
His kit is definitely lower, and at probably over 6ft he towers over the thing.
Dude's jacked from such a visceral and ferocious style of playing.
Check out his Death Grips rehearsal clips.
Hella were tail end of the “math rock” movement, which as you correctly identified, was kind like jazz as expressed through the punk rock filter. Other bands in the genre worth looking up include Don Caberello, Polvo, Battles, and on the softer-emo-ish end of the spectrum, American Football.
These days Zack plays for the experimental hip-hop act Death Grips.
he's the main influence behind DG
He is death grips. He is the biggest creative force.
@@Swamp_Donkey_ he literally started death grips
The Fucking Champs as well.
Toe deserves a mention.
I'm so glad you finally got to this haha Zach Hill is my all time favorite drummer, organized chaos is what he does best & he's an absolute beast & master at his craft. After Hella he's also most notorious for playing in the experimental Hip-Hop group Death Grips (Give em a listen when you have the time) & he's done a bunch of work with other artists including: Les Claypool from Primus, Omar Rodriguez-Lopez from The Mars Volta, Nick Reinhart from Tera Melos, Wavves, & Marnie Stern to name a few.
You should definitely give drummer Brian Chippendale from Lightning Bolt/Black Pus a listen next too, he's got a similar high-energy erratic style. Kenneth Topham from the band Giraffes? Giraffes! is also a great watch as well!
"Math Rock, I will be ready to count" XD
good luck!
"cant find one" ..."but he does" X)))
'... its organized chaos and i dont know what to do about it'
That's what I always try to explain to people.... "it's Jazz!"
are you familiar with Captain Beefheart? I presume that was an influence on this.
90% of Captain Beefheart's music is just really good blues rock, other than the dumbass lyrics
Michael Hudson I came here to say the same thing.
Black Pus/Lightning bolt in his attic
Cool sound similar to TP S3
Was actually gonna recommend that video!
You're one of the few TH-camrs I have set to "All" notifications. All the love man
You've gotta check out Don Caballero!
Really enjoyed that vid. The way they balance on the edge of structure and chaos is cool. Sounds insane, but there's repetition and a deep order to what they're doing.
Damon Che from Don Caballero next pleaaaaaase
Much love from Australia homie, been loving your videos for ages. Thank you and keep safe...
Giraffes Giraffes is similar to this. They're really good.
Gotta be honest and say that I prefer them any day over this.
I don't know if I'd say they're similar. G!G! is way more digestable and pleasurable to listen to, Hella is a chaotic orgasm. They both push the envelope but in different corners.
no
G?G! Is more proggy than hella, more acceptable too.
Nice I like when you say “wow, fuckin with my world view.”
Has he done Morgan Simpson from black midi yet? That kid has insane talent!
After all this time of watching these videos, I'm just now realizing that the video image is flipped.
I listened to countless drummers in my time, I’ve never heard a drummer quite like Zach Hill.
"Wow this is really fuckin' with my world view" Best endorsement I've heard for why you should listen to Hella.
Dude I really love your reactions! Thanks for keeping me busy these days!
Finally! Definitely would love to see you check out Don Caballero/Damon Che
so glad you did this one! zach hill is an alien on the drums
If there is smooth jazz then hella is rough jazz
Hey Garrett, I really enjoy your channel. Something to keep in mind with Hella. A lot of the time, they are playing in different meters against each other. So, you have a sliding floor effect with a jackhammer delivery. They have do composed bits (like heads) and then extrapolate on them (as do jazz musicians). Live, more so. You were right on point with that assessment.
Phrases of the video "Is he about to puke" and "bob your head with confidence"......🤣🤣🤣
Love it....🤘🏼
It's starts to make a lot more sense after a few listens. You start to feel where the 1 is and it makes it so much better.
the music of Hella is what i call ''Nothingcore''
It sound like punk being possessed by jazz
"this is jazz" - hell(a) yeah! and a live evil reference for good measure? sheeeeeit
check out the live video of Screaming Headless Torsos' "Smile in a Wave" - it's beautiful blistering jazz fusion at its ass-shaking peak 🤘
hot take at the end! love that man, great discussion about a brand new territory of music for you (and me). love the content bro keep it up. also watch David Diepold of Cognizance please :)
Going to request it until I see it, I gotta hear your thoughts on Aaron Spears Zildjian Live performance from a few months back.
Good reaction and glad you appended the follow up vid! Hella is classic. I dig the metal stuff as well. Keep up the good work!
YES FINALLLLY SOMEBODY IS LISTENING TO ZACH!!!!
Very exact reaction on this video! I also. Was very pleased by this duet! Thanks for showing those two “crazy” musicians.
Find his live performance of Guillotine with Death Grips, also definitely check out the band Lightning Bolt look for a set they do in japan
Saw lightning bolt live like 18 years ago, crazy to think how long ago that was. Hella's 1800ghostdance is one of my alltime favourites.
Give Kevin Paradis from Benighted a listen. He did a playthrough of the song Nails and it's absolutely insane.
GladGlad someone brought this to you. Keep it up, Brother-man!
“Just bob your head with confidence.” LMFAO
"I don't know what to do with this" is the most accurate response to hearing Hella the first time LOL.
This is the appropriate response to hearing hella for the first time XD
Btw i seriously recommend the first hella album gets 10 ish listens, then one makes it’s way back in the building ;)
So true!!
@jvalex18 no it's just unusual/advanced and requires your brain some repeated listens to understand the time signatures. it all depends on what you're used to listening to. Meshuggah was like that for me at first too and modern day the band Car Bomb is famous for it's strange songwriting that takes a bit to recognize the patterns and remember them
This is an appropriate response to hearing hella for the 30th time... lol
Fuck yeah been waiting for you to do this one. Thanks for being a great source of entrainment during all this.
I guarantee Miles Davis would have loved this. Probably would have hired these guys on the spot.
“I definitely can’t find one...one has left the building.” 😂
brian chippendale is a beast, check him out
"fucking with my... worldview" lmao exactly, "this is punk", yes (in that every ounce says fuck you), "this is jazz", yes (in that one could argue this is the be-bop of rock, which one could argue was the punk before punk), lol Every reaction to Zach Hill I've watched resulted in... speechless. I am also like 99% positive Zach does not count. He lives and breathes rhythm. Also "the guitarist" would have been the center of everyone's attention if he didn't happen to meet Mr. Hill. Spencer Seim is a beast. Everything he does is modern af. If you can write music that Zach Hill will agree to play for years. You are a BEAST!
React to Lille Gruber from Defeated Sanity please
LILLE IS THE SICKEST
And more importantly from Ingurgitating Oblivion. Their last record was so damn good!
Thanks for posting this, finally something interesting and different. Cheers Garrett.
oh HELL(a) yes
"1 has left the building" is pretty much the best description I've ever heard for Zach's style.
TTNG!
math rock from the uk
Totally agree with the additional commentary at the end...i love a drummer who doesn't snap to a grid. Also a few similar dudes who are a little more structured are Gabe Locust, and the first Tera Melos drummer' Vince Rogers. Please keep up the hard work!
I promise you all that craziness makes sense and every hit is there intentionally haha. You can definitely find patterns if you listen closely. That dude has of the fastest right foot I've seen.
Edit: I'm laughing my ass off at your reaction. That's honestly how I was the first few times listening to this and kinda to this day.
Thank you!!! Most people will laugh at it or mock it as just noise due to their own ignorance of what music, skill, and talent is. It’s hilarious these people who talk like they are experts in music and what skill, talent, etc is has never taken the time to learn any musical instrument themselves. Once you pick up an instrument and learn how to actually play your mind expands and you will have a greater understanding/appreciation of music that you normally wouldn’t listen too like Jazz, Funk, Technical Death Metal, Mathcore, etc . Of course these styles of music are not going to be most peoples cup of tea but atleast learn to respect it because it takes a lot of practice, skill, and talent. The majority of Mainstream Music and these so called “Talented Musicians” who make millions don’t even write there own music nor the lyrics they sing. They are basically just selling an Image with a voice that’s Autotuned because guess what happens when there is no Autotune on that voice? It sounds like 💩 because they cant sing. Excellent comment Byron. Bravo 👏
thank you, been waiting for this!
Guess I'm not sophisticated enough to appreciate this? Yeah, we'll go with that.
My new favorite TH-cam thing is just finding drummers discovering/reviewing Zach Hill for the first time.
"Zach Hill Death Grips Rehearsal"
This is one of the bands that led me into eventually getting into jazz
"The music is.... something else."
Cocaine. That something else is cocaine. In massive quantities. :lol:
Yes G-Man ... Keep positive ... thanks for your positive vibes and the laughs and you, Little G and the G-Lady stay safe !
Please do Deathgrips next!
Yuh
Silly
You’ve got a cool channel. I loved your speech about jazz at the end. Great stuff man.
Please check out the albums “There’s No 666 in Outerspace” and “Day Tripper”! They are unlike anything I’ve heard! Pure experimental excellence! They’ll take you through journeys!
Yeah that 666 album really brought out the best in Zach with the full band to play along to. Definitely one of his best recordings...and same with the Cryptomnesia album he did with The Mars Volta dudes, insane high level stuff.
Lmao it’s just “Tripper.”
“Day tripper” would be The Beatles.
Eric Sandoval hahah! Just realized that after playing that album in my car. I was like, “wow I feel dumb!” - Flawed Human
Who on here was at the hollywood show in the 2 bedroom apartment when they were supposed to play The Smell but it got shut down?