Are There Any Good WaveBird Replacements For The Nintendo GameCube? WaveDash TTX Review
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- TTX Tech Wave Dash GameCube Wireless controller review, teardown and analogue test. Is this a suitable WaveBird replacement?
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Hey Ron I just bought one of these and I have all the same issues as you but I was wondering if I bought some OEM potentiometers for a game cube controller would that fix the stick stiffness and sensitivity issues of this ttx wave dash? I dont hate this thing for 20 bucks but I do hate that it registers full input when the stick is only about halfway over.
But if I could just buy a two dollar part spend 15 minutes soldering it in I definitely would?
Or is it not the potentiometer that is the problem but some sort of programming in the board itself. It's only probably a five dollar experiment but I'd like your opinion.
So basically this gets the rating of
That controller you friends play with when they're invited over / 10
Player 2 or little brother controller lol
In 2020 8bitdo just needs to make a wireless controller for the GameCube that's the problem fixer on that one!
Honestly at this point I'd rather have retrofighters do this, unless 8bitdo can get Nintendo to sanction this and be properly licensed so we can have the Nintendo logo on the controller, like retrobit and the Sega collaboration.
Also they need to give it a snes or wii u style DPAD, I absolutely HATE the Gamecube Dpad especially when using the gameboy player
@@itadapeeza8559 Have you checked out the Old Skool Digital Controller? It's a Gamecube controller in the style of a Snes controller. No joystick, and apparently its perfect for the GBA player.
Or a switch to GameCube Adapter so you can use any switch controller including their wireless GameCube style controllers for the switch
@@Sailor-Alpha meh
8bitdo and Retrobit need to step up their game. Enough with the sega and snes gamepads already, this is what we need.
The RetroBit Sega pads have been glorious. And their Dreamcast pads aren’t even out yet. I too would love a Gamecube controller from them but don’t say enough with Sega. We can never have too many Sega pads from them
@@trevorunderwood3652 lol we can have enough Sega Genesis gamepad. What they made is great but we don't need more. But full line of wireless Sega would be nice. I want a wireless Saturn 3d controller
I just got a pair of these (different "brand", but they are all the same) and I must agree that the sensitivity of the analog sticks is crazy. The deadzone is pretty large and the first "register" of movement is at 36% of max. It hits 100% well before the edge of the travel area of the stick. I'd say about 75% or so of the distance to maximum travel. It makes games like Metroid Prime near impossible. You are trying to aim at something and it's either super slow or max speed. Just to get your scanner tool able to pick up on something to scan can be a giant chore. I'm going to keep them because they do work great in certain games (games that don't need precise analog movement). I'd suggest paying no more than $20 per controller, that's about all they are worth.
I was just about to buy one, thanks for the honesty
I think high-quality manufacturers like Krikzz, 8bitdo and Retro-Bit should do a proper 2.4GHz controller for the GameCube. Of course, for N64 as well, but that would require massive re-design IMO.
RIGHT! totally agree.
retrofighters has 2 2.4gz that came out this week. They look awesome.
@@usernamebrettski Can you pass a link?
Funny this video comes up now, cause I just came across my second Wavebird controller the other day. Ended up being great condition and a great pickup. 2 great genuine Wavebirds in my collection 👍
Awesome review Ron!
If there's one controller im gonna be nitpicky about the feel its definitely gonna be a gamecube controller. This looks just like another cheap generic aftermarket controller from amazon.
there is MORE than enough space for rumble in there, there could be little Wii rumble motors in the handles for example
How to make your own better wireless controller
1: Get one of these wavebird KOs (specifically for the shell)
2: get a regular gamecube controller
3: Get a Gbros adapter
4: get an 8bitdo snes wireless adapter
5: get a snes to gamecube adapter
6: Gut the OG controller and the Gbros adapter and put them in the ko wavebird shell. Now you have a wireless GC controller WITH rumble.
7: Connect the snes Bluetooth receiver to the snes to GC adapter and plug it into the GC
8: pair the two devices together
9: Done
So simple why doesnt everyone do it? Lol...
@@jak3w Cause it costs more than a real wavebird.
It looks like someone bought the ones from Ali express they are peddling for 12$ and slapped on a sticker
Yup, the same. They just don't have the logo in the blank spot.
i have 2x of those wavebirds
but they are a pain in the ass to find/collect for reasonably
thanks for uploads like this
controllers are sometimes worth more than loose systems lol
Im in the market for 2 Switch controllers. I want a Pro one and some kind of GC one too. Theres some I've noticed with headphones input so yeh thats pretty darn sweet. Getting a 8bitdo, the new new one that has the bigger handle grips is probably a safe bet too instead of a pro just because I could use it on my modded PS3 n 360 possibly. I seem to struggle with fight games going back n forth but might go with another GC one than this one. Even modding one if theres stuff I don't like bout it. Sure theres some easy mods to do for Smash on the Switch. Seen a few on here. Maybe be a good idea for a vid MLP! The ultimate modded fight GC controller for the Switch.
Nice vid m8!!!!
I have one I've used with the Resident Evils and I love it
My worries are regarding interference from other controllers. Does this controller have any issues with the 16 wavebird channels, or do 2 if these cause issues with each other, since they don't have multiple channels?
That's a good question. Best to just not buy this junk. Paying the extra cash for 2 real wavebirds is the way to go. [Or stay wired]
I have this exact same controller. Mine didnt exhibit the issues you had. It doesnt feel exactly the same as a Wavebird (I have one of those too) but I can play games with it with no issues. My dongle is also fine.
My dongle is large
The 3rd party wavebird is great for PS3, but you’ll need the MayFlash adapter to make it usable on that platform. The first-party Control Stick range isn’t far all the way.
I'm curious as to if the OldSkool falcon controller is actually of the same quality as this or if it's a bit better. As far as I've heard, it seems to use the same mold but supposedly better internal parts. I'd appreciate if you could check it out and compare it to this cause I haven't seen any proof if this is actually the case or not, just hearsay about it.
Wasn't impressed with oldskool. I tried that one out today and smash bros wasn't working right.
I like how you made a sandwich mod with your gamecube back there, the purple in the middle!
What homebrew program did you use to test the sensitivity.?
So when they don't have the frequency selector are you not able to do two at a time?
I remember opening a wave bird once. I don't remember it having triwing screws.
My WaveDash has a sensitivity issue with the analog stick that weirdly only happens when it's plugged into Controller Port 1 and when I play Double Dash, where if I tilt the stick to the left, my kart will flick to the right a few seconds after turning left.
So I was wondering if I bought one of these and I had an old gamecube controller, would I be able to solder the sticks from an og controller onto this controller do you think it would work? I've thought about doing it before but I'm wondering if that would work. Let me know I'd be down to work on one of these and try to make it better.
Edit: I have worked on trying this before, I had a shitty soldering iron at the time, but I'm pretty sure the cstick module can be soldered from an og board onto this and then you could swap a better analog stick onto it.
Did you ever complete it?
Great Gamecube content. Definitely one of my favorite retro gaming channels. Thanks and keep them coming.
I know I'm late but, I'm wondering can you swap the motherboards between them to see if they can fit?
Does the receiver work with the Wavebird, most for sale have none ?
I’m hunting certain pelican G3 wireless controls with the antenna on the receiver not the cut off version G3’s. For my nostalgia. 4 grade I opened a gaming magazine and seen the control receiver on the gamecube and I said “yo wtf is that it looks cool” I was in 5 grade. Never got a GameCube did as adult got a wave bird 6 years ago but now I need that nostalgia g3 wireless controls got a clear g3 w/ clear receiver now I need the black and purple color way.
I replaced my analog sticks with some switch pro sticks, works like magic. It does have some level of delay when I tried to play rhythm heaven with it on my gameboy player. I guess I'll use it only on games that do not require short reaction time.
Can’t beat the magic of an original GameCube controller
modern controllers are so much better but yet no one want to make a better gamecube controller. the only thing we have is that dumb retro fighters controller
@@bland9876 depends on the game, I’d much rather use a gc controller on gc games
@@7ngel you are not understanding what I'm saying. Look at the PlayStation 1 and then look at the 2 and the 3. They improved the controller while keeping it mostly the same so why can't we get a wireless GameCube controller with rumble and the missing buttons for modern games?
That retro fighters controller just looks like a PlayStation controller with GameCube ABXY buttons. They didn't even put the stick in the right place.
Personal I like the shape of the GameStop controllers made by pelican over the original controller but either is good. The point is even that looks more like a stock game I've controller vs the retro fighters.
@@bland9876 because nintendo. Lol
What if I buy an old wavebird and replace the shell and buttons? Is that difficult to do / expensive?
I’ll stick to my 4 original official Nintendo wavebird controllers 😎
i have some of the £10 ones from ebay and they all work very well.
Same
I have an original wavebird but it has started to fail. Left joystick is functioning wrong, I've changed both potentiometers but problem persists. What can I do?
"Sensitive" isn't the word. "Oversensitive" is the word.
I just found out about the product and was looking up reviews. Some dudes channel call RoXolid Productions praised it, just played a couple rounds of Double Dash. Thank god I found your review, otherwise I might've bought this trash.
Maybe try the Cirka branded ones. I they are called Freewave or something like that.
I wished Retro Fighters didn't delay their wireless GameCube controllers to Autumn 2022.
I bought one and it works great. I have three GameCubes and a Wii so it’s perfect for the price
I found a lot of them in electronic good will, I have like 6 of them.
A wavebird?
@@cantsneedgaming4591 yeah man!!!
I use a normal controller with an extension cable to play melee
5:50 That never happened with my TTX tech receiver...clearly someone at TTX Tech didn't check all the receivers properly
I wonder if they'll ever have a good wireless gamecube controller again :(
These aren't awful for the price. The camera stick is stiffer but still works fine. It dies have analog triggers so you can use it fine on Mario Sunshine for spraying while moving withe the FLUD pack.
Finally ron a smash player that isnt sweaty as hell
You shouldn’t have to, but you could possibly try a different set of membranes to combat the stiffness.
there are no membranes on the joysticks
I don’t really know why I was curious to watch this. I love your take on stuff. But yeah, it took me a really really long time to consider 8bitdo and also RetroBits SEGA 2.4gh controllers and I love them but most 3rd party controllers I treat them as trash and a waste of money. Rather restore an original Nintendo wave bird controller.
I love my wave bird controllers 😎
Yeah I'll stick with my wired controllers. I got a few from a thrift store at like $5 each and mixed and matched til I made 1 that's nearly perfect and 2 that are decent.
Wonder how hard it is to adjust the sensitivity of the sticks $20 isn't bad if they are moddable and you don't want to go higher for official.
I wonder this my self. You can buy potentiometers. The ones on this WAVEDASH seem stuff and oversensitive. If I bought some nice potentiometers would they fix the sensitiveness and the stiffness.
GameCube controllers are insanely expensive but I doubt this one will last you very long.
I don't even know if I should open mines. The box is dented and I really don't want to haggle an Ebay return
i dont think comp melee players would even use an original wavebird since it has ~2 frames of lag or so
I have the ps2 wireless controller ttx makes. the controller feels cheap but plays decently. worth the 17 I paid for it.
Thank you, for making this review. This helped me skip this product. Was close to buying it.
so far I know there is 1 other 3rd party wavebird called the oldskool Falcon. youtuber Rerez had made a review about the falcon but I think you should review them yourself because you know better how controllers should be for a kinds of systems
I'm pretty sure both controllers are the same thing with a different label.
I still have mine
Does the dongle work with a lagit wavebird?
Nope
Try testing FALCON WIRELESS CONTROLLER FOR GAMECUBE by oldskool
I heard that you can't use 2 of them at the same time on the same GameCube console because they use the same frequency and don't have a dial. Is this true? Please someone answer before I buy two of them. 🥺
No you can use both
I’m just surprised after all these years nobody has made a 3rd party receiver. Whoever makes one will be making some serious dough. I did lots of research and can’t find a third party receiver that will work.
we need bluetooth gamecube controllers for the gamecube.
I always never liked these knockoff controllers. The only one that I can say was a good alternative was the gamestop controller. I've had a better time with those.
I got a copy of the wavebird too but sadly it doesnt work. Probably the Problem ist the reciever.
OK tried again and IT works, but only for max 1 Meter and offen loses the connection to the reciever. Total garbage.
Isn't false advertising illegal and can be sued for that? Seems like something that should be addressed asap for their company.
no rumble is usually a dealbreaker for me.
Guess I’ll keep hoping for an 8bitdo wavebird.
yer.
Used this playing Gamecube games on my Wii. Somehow it just refused to work with Peter Jackson's King Kong.
It works fine with other games. Just not with King Kong.
Just because it's 20 bucks it's a sell for me. Can't afford an original and refurbishing it too
I got a new original Wavebird for 100 euros
Would of been better if the original wavebird had came in black which was why I bought the TTX one, I didn't like it at all. =/
Hi my name is Jay I am a fan of yours I noticed you get a video on the SNK arcade Pro I was wondering could you take the PlayStation One True Blue fighter pack in connected to the SNK arcade stick Pro
why do we have decent wireless snes, genesis, nes, nes classic, snes classic, genesis classic, ps1 classic, controllers but no gamecube it is like everyone and there mom hates the gamecube nintendo wont even bring gamecube games to anything new even wii got brought over
I agree with you Ron the controller ain't worth the 20 bucks. I mean if your low on cash yeah sure but its quality looks like crap. My mother wouldn't even buy it. God rest her soul
I bought two 3rd parties from China the lag was unbearable.
The third party gamecube controllers are decent but officials always win!
Question why do people use smash bros for every game controller review like everyone only plays smash and nothing else it's kinda annoying
Just got an aftermarket GameCube Wavebird from eBay. Not the same brand, but definitely the same problems yours had. Hate how I have to open up And rescrew the receiver. Works ok, but wouldn't recommend either lol
Short answer. No.
No