Water Flossing vs String Flossing - The TRUTH
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- Lets talk about water flossing and string flossing. The reality that most people don't know about.
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is a water flosser better than string flossing? Lets talk about both methods and if you should even be using one of them. There is a lot of confusion around flossing in the oral health community. So, lets discuss the best methods for oral health and how to floss your teeth.
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What Dr. Ellie is saying is true. I used to go to a hygienist every six months. Always have had tartar and plaque bad since childhood. I got gum disease, so my hygienist started doing this poke thing in my gums looking for pockets. After one of the poke tests, I got a salivary gland infection. Then some years later after a poke test I developed a fever with chills, doctors didn't know what was wrong. After another trip to the hygienist and another poke test my salivary gland again got infected, but this time it turned into cellulitis and I had to be hospitalized. I confronted the hygienist about it, but she denied it was anything she did. I stopped allowing the poke test. Then I found Dr. Ellie and her mouth care system. I've been doing it for 5 months now and for the first time in my life tartar and plaque are not building up on my teeth. My mouth is doing MUCH better. Thank you Dr. Ellie!
Do you still floss ?
@@mibz1117 No I don't. If something gets stuck in between my teeth I will use a floss pick for that, but try not to hit the gum. I used to floss really good after meals, but not now. My gums are better for it. Xylitol gum after a meal helps a lot.
I'm having trouble sticking with the mouthwashes that she recommends the listerine and act . Have you found any without the dyes ?? They end with a number, being reading articles that they are very dangerous to health. I looking to find a mouthwash without alcohol, sorbitol and dyes and an activity rinse without sorbitol and dye. Sorbitol seems to be bad as well.
@@mibz1117 I have used listerine for years so that was not a problem for me, but was against fluoride for years. Dr. Ellie explained that its a small amount and that she uses "sodium" fluoride and not "stannous" fluoride which is the bad one. After the Act rinse I make sure to spit out as much as I can. Anyway, all the washes and toothpaste work together along with the xylitol. Its like a chemical reaction in your mouth. All I know is that it works and I am willing to take the chance on a few chemicals if I can save my teeth.
@@mibz1117 No I have not found any without dyes...there aren't any. Have you heard of Sally Norton? You can search for her here on You Tube. She talks about oxalates which if you eat too much of them (i.e. spinach & almonds) can form tartar on your teeth. I have been listening to many interviews she has done and starting to follow a low oxalate diet, which may help the teeth also.
For those of us who will continue using water flosser, it is super critical to make sure the water stream goes perpendicular Across the gum line. NOT pointed Down into the pockets !!!!
When I use it on the gentlest setting, I try to keep the stream of water away from my gums. Same when I use floss. I no longer go up into the gums and wrap the floss around my teeth like my dental professionals instructed. When I followed their directions, my gums looked horrible. I'm very grateful that through Dr Ellie's system they look so much healthier now and have come up nicely around my bottom teeth.
Excellent advice. My now retired dentist told me this years ago. High pressure can make pockets bigger by separating the gums from the tooth. That 90 degree flush will still get deep into the pockets without a lot of pressure. A nice gentle flush is all it needs. I add some tartar control to my WaterPic. It has made a positive difference for me. It may not work for everyone.
@@underthedrone2735 what tartar control do you use?
@@zlopseto3516 Arm and Hammer for dogs.
@@underthedrone2735 for dogs?? Wow. I am from Europe, never heard for that brand. But i googled it,it is something with baking soda, right?
No flossing for 6 months and no more gum recession. I do follow your complete mouth care system and take Xylitol between meals.
What is Xylitol for? Thought it's a kind of sugar alcohol.
@@angiesrecipes Yes. Bad bacteria eats it. And then they cant function. Blocks their sugar receptors.
@@angiesrecipesYes, it is! It also kills streptococcus bacteria which causes plaque, the bad bacteria in your mouth. 😮
@@angiesrecipes xylitol actually feeds the GOOD bacteria in your mouth! It also stimulates a flow of healing saliva that can help heal your teeth. It’s important not to eat or drink afterward for an hot or so.
Dr. Ellie, I would be open to trying your mouth care system but regular toothpaste that contain SLS make me more prone to canker sores. Any other suggestions or alternatives for those who are sensitive to SLS?
I used your system for the past 4 months and I just went in for my 6 month cleaning last week. Ok I asked the hygenist to describe how much tarter I had. She said "light" amounts. And I noticed that she scraped with the metal tool less than 1/10 as much as usual. She spent most of her time removing stains that had built up in some areas using a polisher tool. I think the stains were due to dead bacteria from your system as I've read in comments.
Also, and most pleasant for me, I had absolutely no sore spots on my gums from the cleaning tools as I usually get every time. These sore spots/ infected areas usually happen between the molars top or bottom, and is very uncomfortable (painful) and can last more than a week. These are the main reason I was searching the internet when I found you. Thanks you so much. The pain is not there. Wow!
BTW before I found Dr Ellie, I tried another dentists (a periodontist on line) suggestions to floss and water pick after every meal, a lot of work too. At the two cleanings after I was following his suggestions, I had more difficult cleanings, more tarter I think, and very sore gums after.
I also have been using DR. Ellie's system for about 6+ months now myself, and I also had a recent cleaning. To quote what you said:
"And I noticed that she scraped with the metal tool less than 1/10 as much as usual. She spent most of her time removing stains that had built up in some areas using a polisher tool. I think the stains were due to dead bacteria from your system as I've read in comments."
This was also my exact experience. I did a full array of x-rays, etc., because it was due and it's something my dental office does annually. The dentist said all of my x-rays, gums, soft tissue, etc. looked excellent.
I haven't flossed since using Dr. Ellie's system, and during the cleaning there was no bleeding! I used to bleed profusely during historical cleanings, and I used to floss daily.
I must say, her system 100% works. The only change I've made (for myself) to Dr. Ellie's system is that I also brush with xylitol crystals in combination with the basic toothpaste. That's the only change and I've only recently begun doing so. Why? No reason in particular, just something I'm personally experimenting with including.
I used her system for 6 months. Not sure why but I had black stains all over. Is this expected? I felt embarrassed opening my mouth
@mstanley1178 Just fyi - she did a
@@tsx3214 Maybe just lay off a new dentist for 6 month or so, maybe longer. Most new dentist want to do everything you say then start recommending crowns, deep cleanings, etc., etc. They see a new patient they see dollar signs.
@@yitzchokpollack152 it’s most likely being caused by Cetylpyridinium chloride in the ACT. I get light staining too. I switched to 1 time a day with ACT, after 3 hardcore months of following the system, and the other time, simple old regular crest, swishing it until it foams up, 2 minutes after the Listerine. It’s helped minimize stains. Unfortunately, it affects around than 5% of the population, so we have to make do.
I found your video on your Complete Mouth Care System after my last dental cleaning. I started using everything exactly as you directed and this is the first time in over 60 years that I cannot wait 'til my next cleaning appt so I can see the results and get the hygienist's reaction. I still have a couple more months to go but I am so interested! Thank you so much Dr Phillips!!
Wonderful! Thank you for watching
I did the same, to the T, bought the book. 6 months checkup. 2 pockets were the same, developed 2 more...Back to waterpik, i guess
I did the same and started using dr Ellie program. My pockets were 4 to 5. Now 9 months later they have decreased to 2,3 and some 4s. I go back in 6 months. Her program works ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I get so much food stuck, l dont know how without flossing
@@dr.elliephillips great video. My wife and I are following your complete mouth care system and feeling great. One question - do you recommend tongue scraping? We use the Dr Tung’s copper tongue scrapers but curious if you see merit in this?
How can people not floss? Every time I eat meat I get stuff stuck between my teeth. I use Dr. Ellies system but I still have to floss.
Mangoes and sometimes celery "strings' require dental floss to remove. for me
I love the gourmet skewers for removing the particles along the gum line and between teeth. They made of bamboo, they resist breaking, and they are much more pointed and tapered than your standard pine toothpicks. I feel the wood has a polishing effect on the tooth surface.
When I eat brussel sprouts I get a thing from it stuck between my teeth . But it goes away that day after some hours
You need to understand what dr ellis has said , if some instances yes floss out where food is stuck and be very gentle. Don't irritate your gums
You may still need to use floss if you still get food stuck or if floss stinks after using in certain areas
I love my water floss, it pushes out a lot crap between my teeth, I use warm water.
I don't need a waterfloss anymore -- been using Xylitol daily for 10+ years now, as well as Dr. Ellie's CMCS. My dental visits literally have nothing to scrape anymore.
I agree. There’s food particles that
My brushing, mouthwash or xylitol gum don’t get to
Water floss or regular floss does
@@bperez8656 Yeah because you haven't been using Xylitol or the system long enough. Give it a year and you won't have this problem anymore.
Sounds like a bogus infomercial. I floss, brush regularly with a non fluoride paste and have healthy teeth and gums. The doc is really pushing her product.
@@Crazycatsx Sorry you lack critical thinking skills.
Your regiment and Spry has helped my gums tremendously, Thank you.
Wanna say thank you! I overlook the impact on teeth and gum from sour foods and these videos of yours remind me. I have been following your system only for one week and the "black triangle" is already smaller!
I use a water pic with warm water and natural mouthwash with cloves and tea tree oil among many other antibacterial herbs. It works great.
My dentist who's a holistic told me there's new research showing clove can damage teeth. Also tea tree has some questions around endocrine effects. You could try eucalyptus?
@@vanessac1965 I would like a double blind research article on any of that. You don't use full strength tea tree oil, a very diluted amount, combined with other herbs.
Dr Ellie thank you so much for the information on mouthcare. I’ve been using your complete mouthcare system for about 10 months and have a dentist appointment in June. I’m curious to see the proof but my teeth feel and look so much better my gums also look better. I no longer have sensitive teeth and I hope everyone will listen to you and follow your instructions without adding what they “ think “ will help. Your system works wonderfully. Thank you !!!
It would appear that different things work for different people. Finding that one thing that works for you is the trick.
I've been doing this system for 3 months now. I've always had plaque issues and this system has helped me my teeth have never felt so clean and my sensitivity has gotten much better. I don't see any negativity in doing this total mouth care system. ❤
My plaque completely disappeared when I became a strict carnivore. No more tooth sensitivity also!
How much is it? Ty
Do you still floss ?
Hey dr ellis , i started your program 3 days ago. All i can say is wow , right away my teeth looked and gums look heathly and for some reason glossy. The more i research your about your program the more everything makes sense. Xylitol during the day is indeed vital ! I will do an undate in 3 months.
Thank you. I have been pregnant or nursing for almost the last 10 years straight, and often get shamed or scolded when I go to the dentist for the state of my teeth. I realize now it is not my fault for not being educated enough, they should have educated me. Now I know 😊
Some of the stuff you add to the water flosser will cause it to break, which happened to me a couple of times, so best to call the company first to check if what you’re planning to add is compatible with their machine.
I don’t get it, how is all the food that gets stuck between your teeth supposed to get out, if you’re not flossing at all?
There’s SO much getting stuck that comes out with string floss, that a toothbrush won’t ever touch in a million years.
It’s not in any pockets either, it’s just food stuck between adjacent teeth
I am in total agreement with on this. I like Dr.Ellie’s advice. But I don’t like the idea of not flossing. I floss and use a water 💧 pick. I have some issues with periodontal disease 🦠 and I believe this is helping me. I use xylitol for brushing and I also chew xylitol gum as well. I put in a lot of time, taking care of my gums and teeth.
How often does food actually get stuck between your teeth? Flossing is more about plaque and tartar rather than actual food particles.
@@playinglifeoneasy9226 every time I eat something
I have the same issue. Due to years of professional teeth cleaning i have spaces between my teeth and lots of food get stuck in between. Keeping them there us more unhealthy in my opinion
I followed the brushing and mouth washes routine for some months and then went to the dentist and although my plague control looked good, the dentist couldnt see between my teeth because I have food stuck in there and showed me photos of it. Yikes, I immediately reintroduced flossing and am getting a water flosser soon as also advised by my dentist to be better than string floss.
Your videos are excellent and so informative. I would love yo know what you think of the occasional use of sodium bicarbonate to try and get rid of plaque/tarter.
Hi! Thank you for sharing. Ive always heard that water flossers are good for tonsil stones. Is this true? Or should we remove them with a different method?
Thank you for the great video!
If I follow your system with xylitol and mouth rinses and decide not to floss, is it expected that all the food particles will be gone from between my teeth after the last rinse?
Or is it normal that some particles may stay there? Especially pieces of nuts can be stubborn.
In other words, is it more harmful for a person with gum disease to remove all food particles via flossing, or to just use brushing/rinses/xylitol and accept that some particles stay between the teeth?
Thank you!
I made progress reversing gum recession with water flossing and occasional string on a stick flossing
I need string floss to get chunks of food out from between my teeth. But I agree it's not a good idea to go down below the gum line like they tell you, and I don't use the "teflon" ones. And if flossing should spread some pathogens, would the Listerine kill them when using the mouth care system?
I only floss to get stuff out, between teeth..the xylitol
Keeps the mouth at neutral pH of 7.4
Same as blood
@@kathleenking47 neutral pH is 7.0 7.4 is slightly alkaline. Hope that clarifies any confusion.
My teenage daughter's deep cavity reversed after using her Zellie xylitol mints for 4 months!! 🎉 No other special system. Tom's no flouride toothpaste. Zellies at bedtime always, sometimes after meals. Pur xylitol gum 2x day.
I cured one deep cavity (into dentin) in 6 months with Erythritol. With x-ray proof :)
Does she recommend Tom's no fluoride toothpaste? Because I know she recommends ACT which is a fluoride mouthwash. I have no idea why she'd recommend that.
@@XYZOxyz She only recommends the original Crest Cavity Protection toothpaste. It says "Helps stop cavities before they start" on the box.
@@XYZOxyz From what I understand, she recommends one of the two types of fluoride, the safer one it seems. I have not taken that leap lol.
I tried just the mints on their own and they made me weak, sleepy, depressed, and easy to cry! Also it aborted my period and then the next period I had lasted 15 days. The blood has been stuck up in my uterus for a whole month. I think it was the magnesium in them that did that. Did your daughter have any strange symptoms?
String flossing hurts my fingers
That’s why I don’t use that method. When I’m done my fingers look like a damn tootsie roll or something .
Dang, wrap it up looser.
Or just pinch the floss and move your fingers over with each tooth.
@@OutWestRedDirt dude. I’m really tired and I thought you called me a loser and that you spelled loser wrong. Lololol
Thanks for the tips, I’ll try. But I usually use the reach flosser thing so my fingers are much less involved anyway. I think I must have a small mouth bc even besides the cutting feeling, it hurts to open my mouth wide enough to use real floss. It could be my tmj though, I just know it’s too intense of a feeling.
I’ve watched this video twice and I can’t figure out if flossing is bad. And here I’ve been doing it for like 2 or 3 months every single day.
You may have osteoarthritis in your fingers that was the first sign for me, I keep the osteoarthritis at bay with minerals and vitamins.
Thank you. I m doing now just started, will update you all.
You are my saving angel! I had periodontal disease for years I’ve been doing the “deep cleaning “ every 4 months and spent a fortune. After my last cleaning I started your system back in February and now it’s May, I went for a check up and they were shocked! I had no tartare at all and my pockets went from a 5 to a 4 or a 3 on most! The only thing I’m still struggling with is staining from coffee and tea, if you can suggest what should I do…Thank you so much! I’ve been buying Zellie I absolutely love the gum, I chew 3-4 times a day after every meal
Congratulations, my pockets have not improved, I have been using the CMCS now for 6 months. Teeth are super slippery thanks to Listerine and Zellie’s!
Try drinking with a straw. That’s what I do to avoid staining my teeth.
@@PrashantPatel-tf1muwhat is CMCS?
@@sweetbeep Complete Mouth Care System
@@PrashantPatel-tf1mu ok thanks
Regarding bacteremia due to string flossing, a few years ago I ran across an article on pubmed that was of the New England Journal of Medicine case-history style (meaning that it was a post hoc analysis of just one subject's experience), concerning a lady who had started a program of vigorous flossing. A few months before, she had undergone knee joint replacement. Rather immediately subsequent to the onset of the vigorous flossing, her knee prosthesis began failing. Surgeons removed it (and presumably installed another one), and in the process they scraped the deposits from the bone inside the hole that they had drilled to house the implant. Upon analysis... mouth bacteria were found, of the pathological kind.
I just now did a quick search. I couldn't, in that quick search, find the article that I had read but I found a better one, a review of the entire issue: "Oral health implications in total hip and knee arthroplasty patients: A review" J Orthop. 2021 Mar-Apr; 24: 126-130
Wow that’s shocking they found mouth bacteria in the area where her knee replacement was.. how does that even happen😅😳
@@nics0ul I have added a reply to my own comment, which includes the title of an article on the subject. You can get the article for free (type the title in Google Scholar) and just skim the abstract and introduction. Evidently it's now well understood that poor oral health can lead to problems with prostheses, with metal implants. The bacteria get into the bloodstream at the gums, if they are abused (as with misapplied string floss) and infected.
That’s wild. How!?
@deegir3354
Why is it a leap if it’s been found in other parts of the body?
Wow! Super interesting. I have been water flossing religiously. PS. Your system is mainly for US audience. I am from Europe and we do not have most of the products you recommend
These products can be ordered on amazon or Dr.Zelle's website.
I always put about a quarter cup of hydrogen peroxide in my water flosser. I also use it on its lowest pressure setting to clear out any debris or tonsil stones in my tonsils.
I think your system works for gum disease and to allow the gum and gum pockets to heal. When I was younger I never used to floss until i was 16 years old and had no problem with my gums. When I began flossing was when I started getting gingivitis and gum infections, redness, etc. I still use brush picks to push out things stuck between my teeth but I dont go down my gumline. Definitely will be switching to the products you recommend so I can balance PH in my mouth. Thank you for great info!
What exactly is her system? I can't find it
@@XYZOxyz go to her account page and look for a video on her video list called how to create healthy teeth, complete system. Its about an hour long and she teaches you what products to use and how to use them as well as how they work to balance ph,kill bacteria, and help regenerate gums and reverse cavities.
@@XYZOxyz complete mouth care system. She has an entire hour long video on TH-cam.
1) Closys, ultra sensitive 1 minute
2) Regular Crest toothpaste brushing for 2 minutes, start by brushing your gums, yes your gums, it stimulates gum healing and health.
3) Listerine ONlY the original Yellow one or the Cool Mint Blue one. Fresh Burst, the green one is ADA approved to Dr. Ellie! Just in case you can’t get your hands on either the blue or the yellow one. 1 minute. Do NOT Dilute. Work your way up to a minute if you can’t tolerate it.
4) ACT rinse. .05% Sodium Fluoride rinse. Don’t buy the value size, it is not ADA accepted because it is half the fluoride strength! 1 minute.
That’s it, 5 minutes twice a day. Try to space it out evenly if possible, S. mutans will need a blasting every 12 hours from the Listerine!
AND OF COURSE USE XYLITOL! “ STRIVE FOR FIVE”. MEANING TRY TO GET 5 exposures of 1-2grams 5 times a day. I buy Dr. Ellie’s products exclusively, ZELLIE’s as a way of saying thank you for her honesty and kindness, unlike most dentists who want to drill, fill, and bill!
I have been using the complete mouth care system for about 1 year, I had a bridge fitted, so started using a waterflosser, all was great then I went on holiday and didn't take it, gums started to bleed after 1 week ( only where the bridge is)
i am now back using the flosser and the bleeding has stopped, and gums are back to normal , am I doing the right thing,my dentist told me to get a flosser, it's the only way I feel to really get the food out from in between gums and bridge
I reversed my deep pockets using the Hydrofloss oral irrigator with H2O2, along with the Cannula tip.
At my periodontal visit, I asked about using lower presser with my Water Pick. They said, yes, high pressure can drive stuff into the gum, but that medium to low pressure can help float out any debris.
The instructions often say to use it on the lowest pressure that still removes the plaque
Dear doctor Elie, thank you so much for sharing your wonderful information and experience!
Unfortunately the only thing I can find in France is Xylitol and listerine original , any idea when your full system will be available on Amazon in Europe, and what to use in the meantime please?
Thank you very much, you look Great, do take care!
Please, where did you find Listerine original in France, I looked for it, but then unable to find it . Thanks
Dr Ellie, is hypochlorus acid mouthwash a good sub for the listerine mouthwash?
I’d be curious your take on the research/claims that mouthwash can cause increased cardiovascular risk, as well as the importance of the oral microbiome which is supposedly disrupted by the use of mouthwash. I’ve seen these claimed as related as well. It can be very difficult to find the truth with so many different sources saying so many different things.
Depends on the mouthwash and how you using it
@@user-nm1rv2bh7kwhich mouthwash would you recommend?
I think her position is, that, unlike other mouthwash regiments, her system vastly improves the oral microbiome
Yeah, good question. Because using her stuff my enamel started to erode even quicker,
@@SwedishTourist I think it's eroding mine too, after 2.5 months. How long had you been using it?
I have always been bothered by the contradiction between being told our gums are so fragile we can’t use anything but the softest brush or it will cause recession, and also that we should floss daily because it “toughens” the gums. If our gums couldn’t handle firm brushing, how could we ever eat anything harder than oatmeal?
I thought they recommended soft brushes not to tear down the enamel
@@SwedishTourist maybe, but firm brushes have been widely blamed for gum recession for as long as I can remember.
Hello Dr. Phillips,
You just read my mind. I was wondering if I should replace my water flosser, that I have used for over a decade (I found it helpful in removing food between my teeth after eating). I just started oil pulling with xylitol and coconut oil for 5 months, and my teeth are looking brighter and plaque has lessen. Instead of getting a new water flosser, I just started your Complete Mouth Care System 3 days ago : ] I look forward to the mouth spa routine, except for the Listerine mouth wash step. lol. I am at 50 seconds, going for 60 next!
I have a water flosser, but never, ever turn it past 4 on the dial that goes to 10. It’s more of a slow flow than a jet. But it does enough flow to gently irrigate all the food between the teeth.
Same here. I keep the dial on 1. Some reports say you can damage the gums when used at a higher stream..
I do too and I always see particles come out that didn’t come out with the pre rinse or the brushing. That makes me feel like I need it. I’m also so used to it for so many years.
@@yeslia2010GodisGood Advice!! Time to use a lower setting.
And also super critical to make sure the stream goes perpendicular Across the gum line. NOT pointed down into the pockets !!!
I have been using your mouth are system faithfully for the last 4 months. I’m not seeing a difference in pocketing size and now I am having sensitivity in this area. I am not sure whether to continue with your system.
Dr Ellie, can I replace the closys with ozonated water ? My understanding is that closys is best used in an acidic environment with your saliva to form oxygen which later kills all the bad germs and bacteria in the mouth. With ozonated water, the killing of bacteria and germs is made possible too. I can even fill my waterpik with ozonated water and floss the problem area. I live in Australia and Closys is just too expensive to sustain over a long term. 3 bottles cost more than a A$100 and last a few months, 5 maybe if I used it sparingly. The ozonated water that are recommend by periodontist is BIOSURE OZONATED TUMBLER which cost around A$500 and can use it for approximately 2 years if you make 6 full size 150 ml every day for 2 years. If the concern is that we cannot brush our teeth immediately after eating, I can just use xylitol and wait for an hour to start Dr Ellie 5 step protoccol after meal. Please advice as my closys is running out and I need to order again or just buy a BIOSURE OZONATED TUMBLER to continue with your protoccol. Thank you.
Just wanted to know, so your your periodontist recommended this ozonated water system? Where do you buy it from, l am also from Australia and have resisted buying her items due to price.
@@melmil9836 i tried replying 2 times but it somehow disappeared. if you could provide your email , i will email you.
Hello! Congratulations on your great work! What do you think of toothpastes with Hydroxyapatite to help fight periodontitis and cavities? Thank you!
One more thing....Would there be a possibility of having your videos subtitled in Spanish? It would be great!!!. I'm translating everything with a lot of help and it's very slow... 🙏🌸🌄
Dr. Ellie, is not a big fan of hydroxyapatite toothpastes. It may not penetrate deep enough and create a superficial layer that’s way more expensive than highly effective regular Crest
I have gum disease and use water flossing to remove food stuck between my teeth, not to "clean the pockets". Stopping water flossing and letting all that food rot between the teeth, that can't be taken out otherwise, will be a disaster. It is basic common sense.
This is so true! Don’t stop flossing!
Hello Dr. Elile, I have many composite restorations and am wondering if your complete system is compatible with my restorations because I noticed small discoloration in them after using the complete system.
I wish you would make a video talking about the best practices for maintaining restorations.
I need to ask you about xylitol gum. I started using it and discovered that it gives me loose poop. I have some of the xylitol powder that I like to swish around in my mouth at night after brushing. I don’t think I can use the gum or mints, however. So what should I do?
Simply amazing 👏
I use a water pike to remove food from between my teeth that flossing miss. I do like this system of your and I am hoping it works, my teeth feels clean and my last check up was good. I do have a question what can I do about my dry mouth ?
Surely if your system (no floss at all , water or steing) is good to heal gums then it's good for maintenance when healed ie never floss ??
A brush head on a water flosser is a good way to quickly rinse your mouth. Basically, you brush rinse with water + dilute chemistry. Sort of an improved swish.
What do you mean? What is a brush head?
@sweetbeep It looks like a toothbrush. You take the pick head off and install the toothbrush head. The toothbrush then flows water/chemistry mix while you brush. If you have an infection, mixing in some chlorhexidine into the tank is an option.
Bravo!! Thanks!
@dr.elliephillips , what is your advice for removing trapped food. I have crowns covering a couple of back molars and food often gets trapped in between the molar and the normal tooth next to it.
I am enjoying using the system very much, but still use my water flosser to remove extra food debris. What should be done instead?
She says use floss.
Hi Dr. Ellie! I am breastfeeding my son and I wonder if you have any advice on how to prevent tooth decay and promote healthy Bacteria in his mouth? I want to start him off on the right track :)
If you don’t know why you have gum recession, trust me when I say even the dentist or periodontist won’t know AND will not bother to know why either. After I described my twice a day brushing and daily flossing routine to my periodontist, the best he could come up with was “it’s genetics” 😃.
Thank you doctor for always providing insight on how we can better our oral health!
Same!! They told me it’s genetics too. Hardly. However it could be microbiome from your family.
I agree with you 100%. I have probably the worst of the worst gum recession (well in my eyes l do) and my dentist never really told me why l have it and now l am seeing a periodontist and not one time has he mentioned to me how it happened to me and how l can try to fix it. I am having these extreme deep cleans to get out all the calculus that seems to keep forming no matter what l do. Each video of Dr Ellie’s l watch l tell myself to just do her program what have l got to lose.
@@melmil9836 What you have to loose is your teeth by NOT doing Dr. Ellie's program. Those dental deep cleanings add to the problem I believe.
Doctors in general. Let this be a lesson
@@melmil9836They don't tell you why you have it because THEY DON'T KNOW, lol. Nor do they know how to fix it. They only know how to do the ineffective procedures they've been taught so that they can make money.
I Love my water Pik You just got to be careful! But I can brush my teeth until the cows come home and then use the water Pik and all kinds of food almost always still comes out, So I feel I have to have it it's not a question anymore! And I have been using your system now for about 6 months! I can say one good thing about a water Pik is I have been using it for almost 30 years and I swear to god I have never ever had one day of bad breath! That should say a lot before I used the water pik I did get bad breath once or twice a year and now none!
My family in Taiwan couldn't find CloSYS. Is there any other product that they can use instead?
I have been trying Dr. Ellie's system for only a week, and also bought Zellie's Xylitol, I can't be more grateful that the pocket between my two crown teeth is soooo much better. Thanks Dr. Ellie for resolving this problem that have bothered me for over 15 years, my dentists couldn't solve the problem!!
I think you can order Closys online.
I remember coming across Dr ellie recommending Ultradex as a substitute for Closys / Colgate fluorigard as a substitute for ACT
🎉I have lpr/gerd and my gums are always getting damaged but no dentist has helped with advising how to take care of my gums all they recommended is deep cleaning
You must use THAT system!
Dear Dr. Phillips, I suffer from sensitiv gum since COVID vaccination and COVID infection. Do you have any suggestions for treatment? All doctors I have consulted are clueless. I would be infinitely grateful for your input!
Try getting some edible food grade bentonite clay and each day, dissolve a teaspoon of it in water and swish it around your mouth, and then ingest it with plenty more filtered water. It will coat your teeth providing temporary relief and help clean out your insides and detox the covid.
Good morning from Geordieland I have a query for you Dr. Ellie if you can help I would greatly appreciate it. I have been doing your mouthcare system for a month now and teeth feel lovely and smooth. I also want my husband to come on board but he has been prescribed Duraphat toothpaste by the Dental Hospital at the RVI due to his recent laryngectomy after throat cancer. Thinking he could use that instead of the Crest but do the rinsing the same ? We also have incorporated the use of small amount of Xylitol crystals after meals and snacks. Thank you for all your really helpful information 🥰
Do you think swishing with a weak xylitol solution would work as well as Closys? Just a thought that popped up.
Read her book there's more info in her book
I use non PFAS string floss and i have no problem using it. It pulls out all kinds of food bits….every time. What is “over flossing”?? What does that mean? You are just pulling out food particles.
It means you are forcing the floss down below the gum line.
@@8tomtoms8 oh. I didnt know that people do that. I can’t imagine not flossing. I am not “aggressive” about it. Anything done with too much enthusiasm could be bad - even brushing etc.
We can't get your system in Belgium (amazon Germany & Netherlands we can buy in as well), it's a problem, other countries asked it as well, i wonder if it's difficult to put it in Amazon?
She said Closys is called Ultradex in Britain and this I could get on Amazon Germany. The crest toothpaste she recommends I could get on eBay in Germany. I only just started the system and am still waiting for some of the products. They are supposed to come next Tuesday.
I'm three months into the treatment:
Gum recession - Did not change
Exposed root - Did not change
Pockets (I have 3) - I'll be much smarter in three months from now when visiting my dentist.
Only one condition changed, the smell and taste in the morning went down dramatically, I guess that something is going on...Working my way to the 6 months experience just to clear any doubts.
I will be back to report the truth soon.
Hmmm
What is your daily diet?
Are you following the protocol with strict adherence?
We're you massaging the gums at all?
A bit confusing . You say you are 3 months into treatment but you did not tell us if this your dentists treatment plan or Dr Ellie’s recommended plan
@@eamonhannon1103 Dr Ellie's recommended plan
@@eamonhannon1103 Dr Ellie's recommended plan
Why do I have brown stains on my teeth after following your system? I have zero tartar but my white teeth are now brown between the teeth for the first time in my life. I want to go to the dentist to have these stains removed. How can I stop these brown stains?
Dr Ellie, thank you for this information. It has become impossible to acquire ACT mouthwash in the UK. what do you suggest?
7:34 FYI: What you mentioned as the "cuticle" is not the accurate term. It is the "proximal nail fold" (the living tissue which everyone thinks is the cuticle). The Salon Life and nail anatomy scientist Doug Schoon are educating the nail tech industry on this. The "cuticle" is the adheisive that binds the nail plate to the proximal nail fold to protect your fingers from bacteria. When people push back their proximal nail fold, they cause trauma to that tissue, they should never be pushed back, they are there for a reason, like the gums of your teeth.
I thought the cuticle was the thin part stuck to the nail?
Hello, Dr. Ellie. Would you recommend CloSys toothpaste?
That is what I have been using because it is very low abrasive, has the suggested amount of fluoride, and none of the things Dr Ellie recommends against.
@@geoffreylevens9045 Hi thanks for the info. How has it helped your teeth? Did you replace the Crest in her system with the CloSys
@@lizabetx483Yes, replaced the Crest. BE CAREFUL though as Closys has 2 different toothpastes and only one of them has the proper amount of fluoride. The other is 1/2 strength. I also replaced the final rinse because the recommended one turned my teeth black and because they are cracked and chipped etc the hygienist could not polish all of it off. I looked like Halloween for several months! Closys also has a mouthwash with the right amount of fluoride for the final with no bleach and no whiteners but does not contain cetylpyridinium chloride which is what causes the black stain. Supposed to be dead bacteria.
Anyhoo, it's been about 8 months and I have more gum coverage of exposed roots, the exposed part has turned pale and some translucent white instead of the yellow/brown it was. Temperature sensitivity is gone. And a one small black cavity starting to form is now mostly white and slowly filling in, and not "soft" the way it was
I do use water flosser because I get huge chunks of fibrous veg and also meat stuck under the gums in one area and that is the only way to get it out other than let it rot until it falls out. That area I think was caused by oxalate crystals when I went on low oxalate diet and my body started "dumping" stored oxalate.
Why that and non crest?
@@sweetbeepnot a big fan of Procter & Gamble. They still test on animals.
Hi Dr. Ellie! I love your complete system, and I've been using it about 6 months now. I saw a tremendous change in gum sensitivity and bleeding after 2-3 months.
I added a water flosser, warm water, and I do find it helps dislodge small particles which are missed on brushing.
Since you suggested string flossing after (with) toothpaste, I positioned the water flosser after brushing.
More recently, I thought it would be clever to water floss after the Listerine rinse (before using ACT), as I figured it could help reduce the acidity before adding ACT, while perhaps pushing the antibacterial Listerine between the teeth (similar to your suggestion of string flossing with toothpaste?).
Good idea? Or am I missing something?
I do use my water flosser at the end. I have a gap and the rest of my teeth are not terribly close. I do floss after eating. I will try your additives.
I'm using your system but I have a temporary crown and the dentist told me not to use any rinses for the two weeks I have the crown. That worries me. Plus I don' t know if he is going to tell me not to use them for awhile why I have the permanent crown. But I'm still using your xylitol mints.
Hi Dr. Ellie! I have been using your system for almost a week now and have a question regarding cleaning of the tongue. Previously, I used a tongue scraper, as I’ve always had a white film on my tongue. Will your complete care system get rid of this film over time or should I continue using a tongue scraper?
Why not just continue with the scraper as pet of your routine. That’s what I do and I like the results!
Good question
Thank you ❤🌷
How often should we change our toothbrushes?
I've been using, coconut charcoal 3x week, water pik with hydrogen peroxide, neem oil. Rinse with 10 mins coco oil. At 55 my teeth are in good shape, no more cavities and NO more fluoride BS. I do IF, so eat 2x a day. Rinse 2x, brush once a day.
I have crowns with slight fractures in the roots, and I'm afraid to chew gum that might damage them. In this case, would Xylitol candy work as well?
I'm concerned about the tingling pain when using a water flosser and it's ripping the gums loose from the teeth, does that get repaired naturally? After you use it a while you don't notice that anymore since all your gums are just flapping in the wind😅
What can we do though if we do not have access to the products mentioned in your complete care system? For those of us that already have issues with gums and plaque, what can we do?
I have been following your Complete Mouth Care System and it is clear to me that I have way less plaque build up than I usually do by this time before another 6 month cleaning appointment. (I have one scheduled for next mont.) I am so pleased! Thank youu, Dr. Ellie! I did have one problem, however. After about 3 months of following your system, I noticed my teeth were becoming badly stained in between each tooth. This has never occurred before and I was baffled because I had less plaque build up. I did my best to research the problem and read that Cetylpyridinium Chloride can stain teeth brown for some people. The green Act Anticavity rinse recommended for the last rinse in your Complete Mouth Care System contains this ingredient. I stopped using Act Anticavity rinse and for the past two months I have used the Listerine Anticavity, Floridide rinse (light pinkish purple) instead for my last rinse. The staining immediatedly stopped becoming worse and now appears to be gradually getting lighter. I am thinking that my brushing with the toothbrushes you recommend are gently removing some of the staining. I suspect I will need the hygenist to polish the remaining staining to get rid of it. I wish I could still use the ActAnticavity rinse following the blue Listerine Cool Mint Antiseptic rinse like you recommend, but I can't because of the staining.
Thanks for the info, I just started her full plan and I will watch out for the possibility of staining and switch to a different finishing rinse like you
I, too, had the staining in between teeth. My 1st cleaning which was several months after starting Dr. Ellie’s cleaning I was a bit embarrassed by the quizzing of such abnormal (for me) stains on my teeth. I think I made up something to tell her like “drinking extra cups of coffee lately” just to get through the cleaning without too many questions haha. So after they cleaning I am still using the total mouthcare system and have noticed that the same kind of staining is about 80% less than what it was early on. I also think it may be the old plaque/dead bacteria syndrome that others have commented about. I will also institute the plan of using xylitol crystals to make a paste to remove staining in between my cleanings. Thank you to Dr. Ellie for helping us all. I think a good video would be one covering specifically this staining issue that a lot of newbies have in between our teeth when starting out. I believe it was briefly touched on in her book as well but would definitely appreciate a great video from her.
Thank you@@prknride453for sharing your experience. My husband also had severe staining and felt very embarrassed by all the intense questioning by the hygenist when he went to his cleaning appointment after following Dr. Ellie's system. The staining was also abnormal for him and the hygenist kept asking him what he was doing differently. He said he really didn't know because he was caught off guard by all the demanding quizzing, and didn't want to say he was doing everything differently. You are brave to keep using the same final rinse, knowing you might get more quizzing at your next cleaning. I am open to going back to the ACT, if Dr. Ellie said that is what I should do, but I do not want to go through what my husband did. If I could remove the stains myself by using zylitol crystals and Dr. Ellie suggested that too, I would do that. I appreciate Dr. Ellie very much. I will be interested to know if the staining you get eventually totally stops.
I see that, one of ingredients in Closys is citric acid. Is it good before brushing?
my gums get so much healthier, is just a few days. but I'm on and off. If I miss 2 weeks, i will feel and see the difference. this is about the 5th cycle, I've been consistent for about a week now.
Dr Ellie, what are your thoughts on Unitein toothpaste?
How do you remove food from the pockets then?
The series of mouthwashes works well
Hmmm, so half way through it’s become a sales pitch. I also sometimes use Gum proxabrush go betweens. It doesn’t go below the gum, just picks up stubborn matter between teeth.
What to do if you can’t tolerate ACT? Plax, which has the same active ingredient, gives me severe taste disturbance that lasts about a day.
But with floss you can adjust pressure to scrape away biofilms, whereas a water pick will just drive it into the gum further?
Thank you
Is there only amazon who sell your products or do you sell on your social media site?
How about dental bridges. Is it advisable to floss? Thats what the hygienist is recommending.
I am 33 , and am an avid "flossor." Three rootcanals on the top front. I feel floss saves my mouth from infection on the top of my mouth. Would these rinses and xylitol reduce flossing , and infection you think?
Why not try? You could do a salivary test to actually measure the good and bad bacteria in your mouth and monitor the changes with my system.
DrEllie.com for a free downloadable booklet and info about the products that you need.
@@dr.elliephillips , I appreciate your fast replies to both of the questions I had. Would the product damage the root canals/those "teeth", change the color or the bonding agent? I get worried about product when it comes to the root canals, that it could do damage.
Thank you 🙂
What do think about boron mineral? Is it any good 👍
I water floss PLUS, I use RO water + colloidal silver and add some H2O2 to the water
Would you recommend using Closys or ioRinse in the water flosser? Is one better than the other? Thanks
You could, but damn that cost might bankrupt you! Lol. Closys is fantastic, but at $11 a bottle…..
Acording to my research, Crest products have pork which I don't use. What can I do?
10:40 what about using therabreath mouthwash?
Most important is what you put in your mouth. I've seldom flossed, don't brush regularly, and the majority of my adult dental visits have been for teeth damaged by trauma. I eat real food.
It's posible to use your cleaning protocol 3 times per day?
Ok this
Makes sense at least. I have a slightly acidic saliva and some recession but no gum disease. I live water flowing but not string flossing.
Can your gums grow back, I heard that they can’t . I’ve had gum recession ever since my braces came off as a kid
May I know your thoughts on Dentite Tooth Armor by Medicinal Foods? Would like your professional input before purchasing. Thank you
How about Listerine killing good bacteria living in the mouth?
Listerine targets S. mutans. Along with other cary/cavity causing bacteria. Listerine has not been shown to wipe out all your good bacteria. Good Luck.