Don't forget the myth that "satan rules hell". A lot of people believe that. No. Hell is the place where the devil and all his demons and those who are not written in the book of life will be punished for eternity.
Hell is a myth. Where in the bible does it say you will be punished for all eternity? That literally contradicts John 3:16. What it does say is that there will be a judgement. Eternal death.
@@kosefixUniverse from nothing, multiverses, primordial soup, billions of years, human evolution from apes, junk DNA are all examples of false science
I'm taking AP World History, and one of the first things my teacher said about Christianity was that Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah and that Christians argued this was due to his humility. I shared with him John 4:25-26 immediately after, and he said, "Oh, 'll look into it then." saying he studied world religions as an interest. Deception is causing misinformation. Please make sure we as Christians know the word so we can to tell the truth from a historical and spiritual standpoint. Jesus Christ needs the representative he deserves, albeit we can never fully and perfectly represent him, at least we can do our best by the Holy Spirit working mightily in us, giving us the desire to do his will.
@@weepingj While that's true, it's also a common apologetics story. In reality, an AP history teacher has no business bringing up these claims about Jesus, and if they do it as part of class, how is it they never herd the verse before?
"I'm not arguing for Christianity in this video, I'm just arguing for the objective historical facts" That's called arguing for Christianity. Christ is king ✝ EDIT: Fun fact, the Islamic Golden Age was about 1% Islam and 99% the Persians.
Remember: science is perfectly okay to study as a Christian. I have never seen anything wrong with studying God's creations and how they work. It's wonderful to work with science.
Nowadays, unfortunately, the persecution of the first Christians is forgotten. I highly recommend the historical novel by the Polish Nobel Prize winner Henryk Sienkiewicz "Quo Vadis"
@@giantotter319, In the case of medieval works, what we currently know is interpreted based on ancient accounts (which have been preserved directly or indirectly), so I don't think they are lying much in this matter. "Quo Vadis" is not ahistorical. It is a historical NOVEL, so it was not written in those times (you can see from the author's last name), but Sienkiewicz really had a good historical workshop, and the novel reflects the spirit of those times
@@jakubkosz1009 There is plenty of ancient sources which were preserved through greeks or muslims. Christian authors have changed some of the narratives, though - namely the persecution of christians. For example the idea that Nero was insane and hated does not fit the way he was described at his time - he was bad at running rome and spent a lot of time on nonsense, but compared to many emperors he was almost capable. Also pretty popular in eastern part of the empire. Also Ogniem i Meczem is better.
Yes, I have read and re-read this novel from my teen years. I grew up in West Germany after WWII. My father was in the USAF and a "history nerd". We lived near Trier and often visited the Roman ruins and my father told my sister and I about how the Roman's "threw" Christians to the lions and other wild animals in the amphitheater. This book helped make me a more devout Christian. I have an original edition.
@@jilledmondson6894, as a Pole and Catholic I'm glad you liked it :) I am at my 22s and I just discovered this for myself (but generally in my country it is widely known). I saw that this reading allowed me to better understand my faith too (its sources, my behavior as a non-believer who is undergoing transformation, etc.). Greetings :)
Good people do go to heaven but not because they earned it. Be careful how you word things like this especially around children and non-believers. You will confuse people.
@@aaronharlow2137 So no one is good. All the infants god killed in the flood? All evil. The 1000+ infants that die every day. All evil? All deserving of hell? Any religion that teaches you all kids are worthless wretches worthy of eternal torture is vile. Any God that tricks you into being born owing him worship or else be evicted into hell is a horrible being and even worse landlord. Only by indoctrination of children or preying on the poor, drug addicted, and desperate, only through war, colonization, and threat of punishment are you able to coerce people into believing this nonsense. I have no problem letting my kid read any religious book including the Bible because I didn't indoctrinate them by saying there is only 1 truth and I'm the one that discovered it. All contradictions are false. I teach them to think critically and evaluate what they see and read. If Christians did this the religion would be dead in a decade, not counting the already indoctrinated.
After reading the Bible myself, I discovered that Jesus Christ is life Himself. Life is ultimately meaningless without God and I am glad that the Lord showed me and many others His mercy.
@@griffin9478 At least I’ll have lived a moral life and done objective good. So yes, I will sleep well. My question for you is, since God is real, where will you spend eternity?
It always kills me when I hear people say "Christians are just as violent as followers of the 7th-century prophet" and then they somehow try to compare a couple of sentences in Deuteronomy, and a few crusaders, with 1300 years of imperialism from the mideast and a huge percentage of that prophet's scriptures. And in current times, the only people I have ever seen politely knocking on doors with literature and kind persuasion are various self-proclaimed Christians (whether or not you want to grant Witnesses and/or LDSers that moniker).
@Ask_Xi It doesn't say young girls, but women and children (as separate nouns). And, where does it say to make them into slaves? If you interpret in a modern English context a translation of the Hebrew, then you can abstract it enough to metaphorically mean keep alive as in keep servants for yourself, but a charitable reading or just the actual Hebrew says to cause them to live amongst you. It's not enslaving them, it never says that anywhere in the text in Numbers 31, it's telling them to adopt them into the tribes of Israel. They killed everyone who was married, probably because you hold an allegiance to those you're married to (God considers the married as becoming One), but someone who is without allegiance to the soldiers of the Midianites can be part of the Israelite tribe.
@Ask_Xi Numbers 18 clearly outlines the disgusting sexual deviancy of the surrounding pagan nations, the same kind of deviancy we now see becoming normalised in our own society now that it has opted to return to paganism. And here you are, running to the defence of those people and their deviancy...
@@johnmcclane3747 The Bible is a book of fables and half-truths. It's for bad people who need to be mentally chained to stop them from doing bad things. Usually doesn't help though.
@@lennonkelly-james2693 It was met thousands of years ago. It's been above the threshold of proof for millennia. Remember how literally hundreds of people saw Jesus after he was executed, before he literally hovered into the sky? Remember the four separate books written by four separate witnesses of this event, differing only slightly in wording? The proof is laid out to see, but many, as well as you, refuse to accept it as truth. Those four men who wrote the books describing their time with Jesus all died in brutal, painful manners. Nobody would go through that for a lie.
Most Christians need to know that just wearing a cross necklace or just going to church doesn’t make you a Christian. Take control of your faith and build a relationship with Christ!
But if you don’t follow Christ even after being Baptized, are you still Christian? The definition of Christian is a follower of Christ, so wouldn’t you not be a Christian?
What part of the Nicene Creed, would the Filioque be apart of that? Both Orthodoxy and Western Churches have different views and each redefine the Trinity.
@@griffin9478All the pagans are mouthy until God raises up more dedicated pagans to hand your ass to you right before He comes to deal with you personally. Islam is riding high at one quarter of all people on earth and one quarter of all land and our governments have been giving them a free pass into our countries for a while at this point. Mouth off now before you hear the shahada slipping out from between your lips because its coming sooner than you will be able to accept and we both know you lack the constitution and the masculinity to speak thusly to them.
@@griffin9478which is why i can confidently say Jesus Christ is King and santa claus isnt. Because while no records of a red fat man flying around exist as real proof, we have plenty of the life of Jesus Christ, and his resurrection. However, we both know you didnt make this statement in good faith
Bro my ancient world history teacher was talking about religion, and we had an assignment called “Islamic achievements” and half of the “Islamic” achievements were done by the Catholic Church 😭😭 like science and hospitals
@@giantotter319 The only one lost here is you, he never said anything about anyone doing science for achievements, he said that for a school assignment he had to read up about modern innovations achieved by Islam, but half of the innovations we're done by the church. You call him lost yet you managed to completely misunderstand what the dude was trying to say all because of one word LMAO
@@AoMohammed Congratulation on repeating the same thing he wrote, guess that's only thing you all are good for. Point still stands. And as far as those christian innovations go, most in one way or another originated with greeks, muslims or jews. Christians just had a talent for codifying it. That was the case with math, healthcare, even cuisine.
@giantotter319 you have no idea what your talking about. Christianity invented modern science. Not the Greeks or the Muslims or any eastern cultures. Because Christianity gave many of the axioms and presupositions that are necessary for modern science to work. Generations of historians and sociologists have discovered many ways in which Christians, Christian beliefs, and Christian institutions played crucial roles in fashioning the tenets, methods, and institutions of what in time became modern science. They found that some forms of Christianity provided the motivation to study nature systematically.[52] - Noah J. Efron
@@giantotter319The three pre-conditions just discussed-the translations, the universities, and the theologian-natural philosophers-laid a foundation for the emergence of modern science because they provided an environment that was conducive to the study of science. . . . And without the support of the theologians and the Church, the medieval universities would have been unable to institute the science-logic-natural philosophy curriculum that began Western Europe’s long, uninterrupted involvement with scientific thought and problems Grant, The Foundations of Modern Science
I think these myths are so pervasive that I often hear it from non-believers when I mentioned that I'm a Christian (I live all the way in SE Asia). People would try to argue with me about the bible over some grounds that they themselves aren't sure about. But I think all Christians should be equipped and ready to confront these arguments (1 Peter 3:15) hence why theology is essential. Thank you for the video!
"Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass." 1 Samuel 15:3, KJ21 Can you help me make this a just command from God? It is the children part i have a problem with...
When you are reading the bible you need to read it with the cultural context. The meaning of the verse yiu sent is not the complete physical murder of the amalek ppls but the destruction of their cultureal identity. The verse is akin to more like how ppl today says i completely murdered the other team etc.
@@thomb.1326 Leviticus 18 explains it. These people were disgusting and they condemned their children and their civilisations to destruction...much like our own culture is apparently aiming for.
@Rocky-ur9mn 1.Why is it so specific in that even the infants and cattle are to be destroyed? 2.Its the COMMAND from God to Samuel, (very clear from the text if it is not misstranslated, wich gives a rise to many other problems if so) NOT the actual action that happend, since Saul actually didnt follow through, he Spared the King and some of the better cattle to offerd to God. THEN he gets confronted by the profet Samuel, who reprimanded him for sparing the cattle and the King, Samuel then Beheads the King, Saul abdicates and David becomes the new king and God regrets that he made Saul king. I know that the Amalekites werent wiped out, they reappear later in the texts. My problem is again with the COMMAND OF SLAUGHTER and the reprimand for not following through, or the claim of inerrancy of the texts themselves (Jesus own words)
How did they come to that conclusion? Since they probably mean medieval times, Paul of Aegina and the Byzantine medical community would like to have a word. Just because they were working with theories(like the 4 Humors) that are outdated and completely absurd now doesn't mean it was a dark age
@@RabidLeech1 I assume its because they literally thought demons were possessing people during epileptic episodes rather than trying to figure out it was uncontrollable fires in the brains neurons.
@@nickhadknacks-z9qHow dare those backwards people not have access to time machines to be able to use EEG! Who cares that it wasn't invented until *checks notes* 1924(some research on electrical activity going back to the 1870s)?! That goes against this narrative I've built!
@@nicanorfredricksbirdrealm228 Eh, maybe in part. But it seems to me that part is limited mostly to the fact that both have the universe beginning to exist.
Genesis doesn’t line up with Big Bang Theory at all. First of all, the theory says nothing about the beginning of the universe, only the universe in its current form. Take another look at Genesis 1. The Earth is unformed, and there is a vast ocean. That’s not empty. It actually aligns with an ancient model of the Earth: A flat disk where the sky is water contained in a solid firmament and held up by pillars. This idea pops up in various other places, especially Job 38-39.
@@seanpierce9386the Bible does not support the flat earth theory. you are referencing Genesis 1, yet are ignoring the Bible saying that light was created first, which holds to the Big Bang theory and our modern understanding of electromagnetism, amongst the foundation of all universal constants that hold space, matter and time together. Christians do not typically hold to a flat earth view of the world, simply because the Bible does not confirm a flat earth creation of the world. The Bible isn’t primarily a scientific text, but people weren’t as ignorant as we think they were, considering Babylon had access to calculus dating back to the construction of the tower of Babel.
@@oxideaitunim What we call the speed of light is a universal speed limit. Photons just happen to travel at that speed through a vacuum, and they slow down in a medium due to the properties of waves. We have no idea what particles were created first, but given that the physics of the early universe were completely different than our own, it cannot have been anything we would call light. You’re probably just using this fact as a memorized apologetic. I would encourage you to think about the problem yourself. You can’t have it both ways. Is the Bible scientifically accurate or not? If it is, then everything should be totally accurate with no mistakes. If it’s not, then why would a God-inspired book contain only the understanding of the world available to the people who wrote it? This is especially relevant in Job, where God is specifically trying to display His unknowable greatness with no need to appear reasonable to the people at the time.
if someone tells you christianity caused the crusades( 3 milion deaths in almost 200 years) then tell them atheism caused ww2, stalins soviet union and maos regime( ~150 milion deaths in ~50 years)
How did atheism cause WWII? Pretty sure WWII was caused by nationalism, fascism, militaristic jingoism, and the Treaty of Versailles. And antisemitism, sure. But atheism? Yeah, I don’t think atheism caused WWII. Also correlation does not equal causation. Just because Mao and Stalin were atheists doesn’t mean atheism caused them to commit atrocities. Also, even if I grant *everything* you say as true (I.e. atheism killed 150 million), this entire argument is a whataboutism fallacy. Instead of addressing the deaths caused by Christians, you don’t deny they did it and that it was wrong, you just say “well atheists are worse,” which doesn’t vindicate Christianity. That would be like, if I said “9/11 was bad,” and someone replied “hey less than 3000 died in 9/11 but six million died in the Holocaust, why are you criticizing Al Qaeda buddy the Nazis are worse.”
@@caseycrowe3805 It's a bad argument yes. But to deny that the fruit of atheistic ideology "nationalism, fascism, militaristic jingoism" involved in a large amount of deaths in the 21st century is a failure to understand history and sociology. The fact is that atheism doesnt generate a worldview that ends with the overall benefit of mankind.
@@donut9719 Through colonialism, hell yeah. Do you understand how that's wrong, or do you need to hear about the murdered native children in christian schools in canada?
Science and christianity or theism period, are two beliefs that do not contradict each other. You can believe in both, and both come together perfectly
No, science and any religion are contradictory. Faith cannot coexist with rationality. What is not ultimately testable and repeatable is not science. A good scientist never says 'oh, this must be real!' but has to constantly look and see if things work to declare that what they have is a working theory. Any loyalty to any God is thus contradictory to how science works
How do you think people heard about Christianity? Do you think people back then had flyers raining down from the sky, preaching about God and His Prophets? Yes, Islam spread by conquest. Yes, Christianity also spread by conquest.
referring to the thumbnail, my school got like 10x more liberal this year, last year it was pretty much not political at all, this year they had a whole ass 30 minute talk to not disrespect gender identity and sexual orientation and to be inclusive and shit, but they skimmed over racism in like 5 secs
Its mainly to do with the history of the churches being against anything science related. Like the invention of the lightning rod, evolution,big bang cosmology etc
Another myth is that Christianity does not treat women well. Salve Regina Oh, and as of today, it’s her birthday as well! Happy birthday, Mother Mary!🥳
@@user-Strong.Trinitarian Except Christian organizations consistently fight to hold back women’s rights right up to the modern day. This is like telling a plebeian to be grateful to the Roman Senate for overthrowing the monarchy to institute the republic when those same senators were weaponizing said republic to screw them over at every turn.
@@user-Strong.Trinitarian My reply got deleted. I said nothing even remotely edgy or TOS breaking. TH-cam’s management keeps getting worse by the fucking year. To be clear it’s almost certainly not RZ’a fault, it’s TH-cam’s worthless automated content moderation. They’re likely using an LLM to filter comments, which is insane because it effectively means nobody even knows what the rules are and they’ll keep changing as the LLM intakes more data. I hate AI so much like you wouldn’t believe.
One time, I was reading a history book in high school that erroneously stated that the Gospels were "..filled with contradictions". That's a false and very biased statement to make, and its totally unnecessary with regard to Jesus and the writings of his disciples.
@@Dcm193 no its really not, and I never said it has zero contradictions. I was trying to say that a more neutral statement or position should have been in the textbook. Also read Hegel, contradiction actually creates new knowledge through the dialectical process.
I wasn't home schooled but I have a feeling that high school is an attempt to adjust you to a sleep deprived 9-5 life Even middle age peasants got more time off than we do now
@@reisen9235 Exactly. It's completely insane that we teach people how long they should sleep and then just make them wake up at 7am(at least in my school).
I’m curious why you think that. Do you think science was handed down to us by God Himself (directly or indirectly)? And if so, why didn’t He provide this earlier, in the Bible itself, like so many people expect?
Look your probably right in many ways. But how is this helping seriously. How is statement public school is horrible helpful or good in any way. I'm a Christian I am going to public. Every single public is different. If someone told you all x is bad you would totally disagree. Like I highly doubt you would say scab. if you want to change the systems don't sit on the sidelines
It's not a sin for a Christian family to carefully make use of public school, as long as they monitor what is being taught and they are ready to pull their kids out if necessary. But as/if society improves we will come to realize that educating kids is way outside of the government's job and the government's aptitude.
I'll also add that a lot of Galileo's issue was that he was being kind of a jerk(still a lot of historical debate about whether this was intentional) by putting the Pope's objections, in a book he wrote in Italian(writing in the common language, rather than Latin was a very anti-establishment move at the time), in the mouth of a character named Simplicio, meaning buffoon, and that he refused to show his work and answer the Pope's theological concerns. This was also only about a decade or two after Martin Luther's 95 Theses so the Catholics were very paranoid about any challenges to their supposed authority at the time.
Galileo was twisting scripture to justify his belief, not because we Catholics were paranoid about authority. Also he was teaching his theory as fact while not having sufficent proof. Go to your local uni and teach some crack pot idea with NO PROOF and see how long you stay as a teacher.
He also claimed to be on firmer scientific ground than he was. Yes, he turned out to be mostly correct, but he didn't have enough evidence at the time.
It also didn't help Galileo's case that his model of planetary motion... didn't conform to the history of observations and could not make accurate predictions for the future. A lot of folks get wrapped up in the fact he was right about heliocentrism, but ignore the fact he was completely WRONG regarding orbits, Galileo believed orbits to be perfect circles. As Kepler later figured out, orbits are NOT circles, they're elliptical, and that makes a MASSIVE difference when you start trying to use circle orbits to calculate the positions of planets. Meanwhile, the model of the solar system in use at the time, a hybrid model that actually assumed the sun, moon and outer planets orbited Earth while the Inner planets orbited the sun, was actually MORE PREDICTIVE of planetary motion and BETTER FIT the historically recorded positional data. In other words, Galileo was actually in many ways LESS scientific than the Catholic Church at the time, as he refused to consider other options even when his model did not fit observed data.
@@jdotoz No, he wasn't "mostly correct", his model was less predictive of planetary motion than either the full geocentric model complete with epicycles or the hybrid model that I mentioned. The ONLY things his model got correct were the relative positions of the planets AND heliocentrism. But his model could not be taken, plugged in any date, and then accurately predict the location the planets would be in the night sky. Thus he was wrong about SIX OTHER aspects of his model (the orbits of the known planets at the time). Last I checked getting that much of an assignment observably wrong was a failing grade. :P
@@griffin9478 So there was nothing then there was something then that something was stable enough to form but wasn't really that stable or something from nothing caused it to explode thus the big bang.
Genesis1 takes its story from enoma elish which in both a god is splitting the water (which goddess Tiamat which is chaotic dragon with many heads) and those splitted parts become heaven & earth and bible refer to that dragon in (psalm74:13) and many other places by name leviathan ;it’s polytheistic story with many errors
0:45 There is a really good video by a TH-camr known as InspiringPhilosophy on this called “Christianity's War Against Science Debunked!” if you want to learn more.
I usually dumb it down for atheists but here's how it works in the Old Testament: Israel: Help us! God: Sure. Israel in desert betrays God. God spanks Israel then says: I barely saved you and you turn your backs on me? I'm gonna leave! " Israel: Please don't, we're sorry. God: Then worship me like you promised. Israel: Can we have a King? God: But I'm your King. Israel: Please? God: Sure. Here's a nice kid, David. Later... Israel: Look at Baal, he looks nice. Let's worship him. God: Not again. God spanks Israel. God: They are so forgetful, so I'll send them prophets to remind them. Israel: We don't like these prophets, they keep saying bad things. Let's chase them away. God spanks Israel again. Israel says sorry. God: I forgive you. So much so that I'll send you a Messiah. Israel: Cool. God: So stop chasing my prophets away. Later... Israel betrays God and kills prophets. God spanks Israel. God: This is your last warning. Your punisment will last 400 years since I just can't get through to you. Come back when you are called. Thus it was the reason why He was called the long-suffering, all-loving and forgiving God.
I find it interesting that a public school is the thumbnail for this video because here in New Zealand public schools often have better values and beliefs than the 'Christian' private schools. Public schools here also tend to have a wider and diverse groups of people than private schools and so religion, while not taught, is often discussed among students. My public school in Christchurch has a very large student bible study that kids attend and religion is not mentioned in our science classes and our teachers allow us to hold our own beliefs. Just my random thoughts, great video, keep up the good work RZ😊
@@giantotter319 That's a bit unfair. This video is clearly made by an American for an American audience. He specifically stated in his intro that he's responding to lies told during his time in public school. He can't be expected to respond to every lie told across the entire world.
@@dahliaherrod4301 No, zoomer purposefully tried to make a statement of Public school - Bad and lies to you/ Christian school - Good and tells you truth. Even in the title of the video. He doesn't have to respond to everything, just needs to treat the subject with level head and stop trying to divide people.
@@marlon8095 The children of God, the people that are made in God's image, people who are in the same religion as you, people in the comments who are religious, people who The Lord gives visions to, people who The Lord gives missions to...etc.
Eastern Catholicism is just Catholics who larp as Orthodox and they don't even do a good job, like they combine Eastern and western customs in some places so its just so weird
I dislike Eastern Catholicism for how it tends to be seen. Eastern Catholics portray it as this kind of "reasonable middle ground" between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, but then you realise many of their beliefs are heretical to Catholics and it drags the Catholics down by showing that they're willing to tolerate literal heresies for the sake of unity and having more groups in communion with the pope.
The idea that Christianity questioned and opposed scientific progress was touted throughout my educational career. It's sad that people still think this is true. Most Universities have their roots in Christianity.
@@Colddirector nope, the catholic church in spain was what funded Columbus' journey. They must have known the world wasn't flat to send someone around the world. Please do research
I am a Seventh-Day Adventist and we should get together sometime over Discord, Zoom etc. to exchange ideas. I welcome you to learn about our beliefs so you may present an accurate representation and can either refute or agree with. I am also interested in learning about your points, though I have seen many of your videos and like them for the most part. Thank you and may God bless.
@@Chance_Rice Yes, I was raised an SDA. So what? Does that mean I cannot do my own research? That I follow blindly without testing their claims against the Bible? Just because someone was raised a certain way does not me that they do not do their own research. If you can show me in the Bible where I am wrong I will recant everything. But if you cannot then the truth must be accepted.
6:50 John Brown was kind of my gateway drug to conversion, I'm from where he was born and that motivated me to study him. The lyrics "John Brown was John the Baptist of the Christ we are to see, Christ who of the bondsmen shall the liberator be, and soon throughout the sunny south the slaves will all be free, his soul is marching on- The conflict that he heralded, he looks on from Heaven to view, on the army of the Union with its flag red, white and blue, and Heaven shall ring with anthems over the deed they mean to do, his soul is marching on" from the original "John Brown's Body" lyrics printed in The Tribune on December 16, 1861 made me weep. They still do most of the time.
I used to go to public school as catholic but the school did things like allowing discrimination of religion and it didn’t allow religious scripture to be read
Not to mention, many scientists were not only Christians but owed their discoveries and inventions to Christianity and the Bible. Matthew Fontaine Maury was a naval officer and the founder of oceanography. He discovered the currents of the ocean after reading Psalm 8 and dedicating his life to it. Such currents are used today for shipping routes, freight and oil distribution, and underwater cables.
"many scientists were not only Christians but owed their discoveries and inventions to Christianity and the Bible." I disagree that "many" scientist claimed that their faith allowed them to make scientific discoveries. Regardless you have only cited one example. can you cite 3 more so that your quantifying word "many" is true? thank you my friend.
@@robertm3329 Thank you for the response my friend. So how do these people prove that god exists? How are they any different from other believers? Can you now offer proof for gods existence? Thank you.
For those interested...Truth: 1) Christianity includes science 2) Christianity spread because it's the only God created / human discovered Way of Life 3) Christianity unites, but imperfect humans (including dedicated spiritually immature Christians) oppress themselves and others 4) Christians temporarily go to the paradise component of current heaven (e.g. soul is saved) and everyone else temporarily goes to Hades. When the new heaven/earth is here, on Judgement Day, either each human's soul is redeemed and their spiritual body is united with God and others in the new heaven eternally, or the human's soul is destroyed and spiritual body is eternally separated from God in hell. 5) One of God's many types of perfection is teleios (constantly spiritually maturing), hence God from Old to New Testament. 6) There is one Truth. The rare "narrow is the path" spiritually maturing Christians are one with the Truth: God gives free will (there is no predestination), real baptism (e.g. establishing spiritual connection with God) naturally eventually happens after a human starts and grows a relationship with God, etc. 7) Christians have discovered more of God and His/our reality over time...but the Truth hasn't changed.
Glad you're as insistent on the "Christianity is not anti-science" point as you are. Speaking as someone who is both Baptist in theology but also accepting of things like evolution, I often feel like I'm stuck in the middle of the Conflict Theory hitting me from both directions when I mention I'm not a YEC. My fellow conservative evangelicals tend to be YEC, although thankfully, nobody has called me a heretic, and often think I'm not being faithful to the text(Ignoring the many textual issues of YEC like the Tree of Life problem in Gen 3:22-24 that you've mentioned before and why the tree needed to be "guarded" if it was simply an obedience thing, or the question of how Day and Evening could exist and be 24-hour periods before the Sun and Moon were a thing, or how Adam and Eve had a frame of reference of death pre-Fall as shown in Gen 2:17 and 3:4, or why the animals needed to be "subdued" if everything was peaceful in the Animal Kingdom before the Fall, or how plants which are also living things could be food before death.) and atheists will think I'm inherently illogical for rationally coming back(I had almost completely lost my faith in college due to being confronted with secular biblical theory despite being at a Baptist college, along with things in my personal life) to the idea that God exists at all. That idea that Christianity and mainstream science are incompatible is beyond frustrating. Even those YEC who are scientific about it like my pastor(who is a fantastic man of God btw, not attacking him or his faith here) reject mainstream science. Think we all need to have a bit more grace on that question and accept that it's an issue that strong, reasonable Christians, can disagree on.
@@bigfennecI don't necessarily have an issue with most YEC people. I disagree with them and do have issues with those who will go around claiming those like me are heretics and saying that any other view means you're not a serious Christian but not with YEC people in general(most of the people in my church family are YEC after all.) They are good, solid Christians, and I fully acknowledge and respect their faith and viewpoints.
@@HistoryNerd808 the problem is there there is literally a verse in gensis that defines what one day is. "God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.” And evening passed and morning came, marking the first day." so one day in genesis has a morning evening and night. and if we say, one day in genesis is 1000 years maybe, that would mean 333 days were just straight sunshine, and 333 years had straight darkness.
7:34 early church fathers weren’t the only early anti slavery Christian’s. There was also Moses himself freeing the lord’s people from Egyptian slavery so he could lead them to their designated holy land
The only thing that any Christian should say regarding slavery is that Christian nations ENDED IT. Not just within themselves. The entire Muslim world gave up on slavery because of Christian nations warships parked in front of their coast.
In school, when I was in 6th grade. I was taught about Bhuddism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. What I can remember about was taught about Christianity in school, was that Jesus was the son of God and when I asked if Jesus was a demigod my teacher answered that Jesus is both God and human at the same time which I didn’t understand at the time. I believe that my teacher taught about religion in a very respectful way, but I do hold the belief that people shouldn’t teach about a religion unless they have a deep knowledge and understanding of it.
Open Communist Arthur Miller has the monopoly on defaming the Puritans, specifically with his propaganda The Crucible being taught by retarded English teachers everywhere. It's difficult to fathom that by contrast, pretty much everybody you ever ask will have no idea what a "Holodomor" is. The death toll difference is only about 10-11 million minus 23 or so. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you modern mass education!
Im a Christian; but also a longical person. One of the things people get wrong about Christianity or religion in general, is that if we belive in God, we cant be rational or logical beings. But that isnt true. God wants us to be logical beings. He wants us to think for ourselves. But when we use science and reson against Him; that's when it bbwcomes wrong.
@@ichsehsanders there are lots of evidence that a world wide flood did not happen, there is no way humans were created just one day after ALL animals were created.
@@ichsehsandersthere’s no absolute proof that god exists. Much less that god being from the Bible. That’s what they mean. We move based on belief and faith, not science
My school NEVER taught any of that stuff. Every teacher I have had as been Christian or just never touch religion at all, my science teacher is Catholic, my old history teacher spent a lesson all on B.C. and A.D. and how it does not stand for after death. And everyone who went to my school was Christian, I know only 2 kids who are atheist, and they don't even debate about it, they respect that people believe that God is real and is the Lord. My public school is one of the best, I hope you all have good ones too, and if you don't, make them good ones.
I’ve always enjoyed your videos. I have kind of developed an almost obsession for learning other people’s theology. The problem being that the only thing that interest me anymore is others theology. I’ve kind of discovered that I have been so overstated with the Jesus died for you, that I don’t really care anymore.
Just so everyone knows.. the Catholics and protestants agreed a long time ago that both their understandings of what consitutes salavtion is legitante . Both agree the other is saved
Bruh, saying you shouldn't be Christian just because a few minor teachings today contradict older ones is like saying you shouldn't believe in science just because modern science teaches things people didn't used to believe.
If an infinite Lord with infinite power, infinite knowledge, infinite understanding and infinite compassion somehow cannot by our standards exist, how can we?
5:02 I want to add a point on the conquest part. The reason why the crusades happened was because of the culture which influenced the European countries at that time. Some of the European nations, particularly the Anglo Saxons, based their societies on pride and honour. So when the gospel was preached to them, they could not understand the basis of the message so they twisted it to suit their beliefs. Since they thought that it was shameful for Jerusalem to be captured by the Muslims, they thought it was honourable for them to recapture in the name of the Lord. When in actuality, it was based on their pride. So that’s why the subsequent crusades weren’t as successful compared to the first one, as they are not moving in the will of God
I went to catholic schools throughout my life, and it just made me despise christianity even though it has taken me YEARS to deal with my traumas I'm finally starting to return to the faith not as a catholic though(YET)
@MarkStein-b5b He claims that the Big Bad secular kings were the ones who caused crusades and forceful spread of christianity, while such a concept (secular ruler) didn't exist for at least several centuries after middle ages. Medieval rulers, their conquests and crusades were all connected to christianity and the church.
@@outmywritemind1739 I don't just blindly believe Christianity. I have tried Islam, and Judaism. I have a good substantial knowledge of church history and i can easily explain all essentials of the Christian faith. I understand apologetics: the nine extrabiblical sources for Jesus that still coincide with the bible and how the bible is 99.5 identical to the original manuscript. The world is not eternal, there's a creator and that's God. You who doesn't believe has not been predestined by God to believe and will be damned by your sinful nature. Yes i also believe in Calvinism, God's absolute sovereignty. Trust me, i myself cannot have the faith but it was God who changed the disposition of my heart to believe in him. May I preserve in the faith he has given and the Good Lord who starts his work in me shall finish it, Amen.
I don't just blindly believe Christianity. I have tried Islam, and Judaism. I have a good substantial knowledge of church history and i can easily explain all essentials of the Christian faith. I understand apologetics: the nine extrabiblical sources for Jesus that still coincide with the bible and how the bible is 99.5 identical to the original manuscript. I also believe in Calvinism- God's ABSOLUTE sovereignty that means that if you don't believe in God it's because he hasn't called you to his from outside time while in time it seems you have rejected him but it is an uno reverso card 🥱
I went to public school in Missouri, and I can’t say we were taught any of those things. Maybe it’s different on the East Coast. Heck, my biology teacher even told us that she was a Christian before teaching us evolution. From what I remember, the only time I noticed a negative slant to Christianity is when we were taught about the Crusades and the Spanish inquisition.
I dont rember who said it, but it was something in the line of "Those who decide what kids learn in school are those who will manipulate the next generation and beyond." He/She was very, very real with that.
I'm not saying you need to believe it, but I seriously recommend taking an actual deep research dive into young earth Creationism. It's not some anti-science movement. It's tens of thousands of Christian scientists in multiple scientific organizations applying as direct a scientific process as possible to confirm or deny their theories. This whole video is about "debunking lies told about Christianity," yet less than 5 minutes in you reinforce one of the biggest lies about a very large number of Christians.
@@Gr8Imres Mutation issues, genetic decay, irreducible complexity, apparent age, entropy, the entirety of the fossil record? I'm sorry, I thought we were just randomly throwing out buzz words with no explanation.
I remember vividly in about 6th grade I believe. My teacher was teaching about Christianity, and when he got to Jesus he said that during that time period he got hung by a rope and not a cross, because cross crucifixions didn't exist in that time period. As a young Christian I was confused, but accepted it because school is always right, right? Wrong. I held onto that belief for years until I talked to my pastor and looked into it. It's much worse than we think.
11:32 rather than the test paper swap analogy, here's a better suggestion: imagine a poor villager woman who has nothing going on for her. Suddenly a prince decided to marry her. Now she's suddenly rich, because her name is added to everything he has.
Gregor Mendel, the Father of modern genetics was a Catholic Priest. Robert Boyle, who defined elements, compounds, and mixtures was an Anglican. Francis Collins, invented positional cloning is an atheist turned Christian.
newton was an alchemist. Does that mean alchemy is a good thing? Einstein was a deadbeat father. Does that mean being a deadbeat father is a good thing?
@@nickfoster848 There is a sense in which I think it matters. I've heard this argument before & after years of hearing different arguments and apologists. I, now personally think young earth creation is most likely the best explanation of things. I'm inclined to agree that this shouldn't be allowed divide the church but I do think there's a way in which it matters. It's been my personal experience that sometimes people might disagree with you completely on a belief and say "it doesn't matter that we disagree on this, let's talk about something else". When I co-operate with this, this conflict dies down for that time. But on another unassuming time, the issue sneaks it's way back into the conversation by some backdoor & I'm left wondering whether or not the person who told me to forget about it, actually meant it. I view the account of original sin as a literal account because it lead to a literal blood sacrifice of God's only Son. I thought, if you're going to claim "a certain portion of the account of genesis isn't to be interpreted literally, then where exactly do you draw the line?" If the six 24hr day creation account wasn't literal, what part of the fall was? If Adam wasn't literally the first man in creation & Eve the first woman, then why does God speak as though they are? How does God punish man for that which He ordained man to become? If man is the result of evolution over eons of time then death always existed as part of the natural order of life. Therefore death couldn't be the punishment for sin & therefore our Lord and Savior's death was as meaningless as the rhythm in which the wind makes the leaves dance. Then our faith is futile & meaningless. I think there's a reason why skeptics often attack the genesis account, because they know that it is the foundation for all Christian doctrine. Whether they realise it or not, there's a part in them that knows this. We as Christians shouldn't fight or bicker about this but we also shouldn't condescend these interpretations. Think about it, we're about 2 chapters into the very first account of God & His creation & we open with an allegory. Imagine Moses, when he writes this. What is he supposed think? What was the point of speaking allegorically in the first place, all it did was confuse & cause division. I argue that, unless one believes in evolution, Genesis can only ever be interpreted literally. I say all of this to say that it's frustrating as it is to be talked down to like an intellectual pariah by skeptics in general for our belief but for our brothers and sisters in Christ to join in on the mockery rather than to hear us to genuinely understand not to argue. That kinda hurts ngl
Don't accept the rhetorical wizardry of the "YEC" label. If the earth is indeed 6-7 millennia old, that is OLD by every standard but the historically undocumented ones posited by naturalist pagans. The Darwin family, Lyell , and most of the others were all Freemasons, gnostics and occultists, all of which oughta mean something to contemporary Christians but alas!
@@nickfoster848sure there is. Evolution has never been demonstrated in a lab, yet Jesus teaches and quotes Genesis as creation being made in 6 days. If anything there is no "real evidence" for OEC.
1: This is more of a modern phenomenon, nowadays biblical inerrancy contravenes scientific consensus pretty significantly; most famously with Evolutionary Biology. 2: That position is an oversimplification at best, but you calling most of those rulers “secular” is also. 3: Public school taught me that oppressors used Christianity to justify their actions as their opponents did. This is as close as a historical opinion you can get to being fact. Really not sure what you’re on about. 4: Public school never taught me Christianity is like that. What. 5: Again, what? Y’all must have had some weird-ass teachers. 6: Public school does disproportionately focus on the differences, but they have a limited time window to explain the Protestant reformation and its consequences. So I’ll give them a pass. They’re not allowed to teach Theology for Theology’s sake anyway. 7: I was taught Nicaea helped standardize Christian beliefs more so than “change” it.
Well, I wanted to make a joke about instead of having bad public education you have no public education at all, but I looked it up and your public education is pretty good. Stupid facts getting in the way of a good joke!
Don't forget the myth that "satan rules hell". A lot of people believe that. No. Hell is the place where the devil and all his demons and those who are not written in the book of life will be punished for eternity.
Remember Satan knew your god and wanted nothing to do with him and a lot of angels felt the same.
@@kevinkelly2162You don't even understand what it is that you're arguing. Please, if you're going to try this, try harder.
Hell is a myth. Where in the bible does it say you will be punished for all eternity? That literally contradicts John 3:16. What it does say is that there will be a judgement. Eternal death.
@@epsilon3821 try matthew 25:31-46
Oh, thanks for the clarification, Flowey.
Unfortunately, all these myths are spread by people who get their knowledge from Hollywood movies.
Gotta love the ultimate sin city spreading lies am I right?
Los Angeles has the most ironic name of any city on the planet
In every way possible it's hell on earth, city of Angels?, city of demons more like
Generalizing, but true to some extent.
Kinda makes you think about who’s making these Hollywood movies🤔
@@gucciapplesauce2021 New agers, secular people, hippies and other weirder people and artists who obviously don't believe in God
The biggest lie about Christianity is that it’s false. Jesus is Lord.
Your comment makes no sense?
Oh wait I'm being dumb I've got the reading comprehension of a brick wall
Prove it then
@@alfieingrouille1528lol
@@F4ITHWASTAKEN😂
Jesus is make believe.
There is no conflict between religion and science, but a conflict between true science and false science.
Can’t agree more👍
You are right. False Science has the Pope as noble prize scientist.
If anyone tells you that science has disproved the existence of God, it's safe to ignore his religious opinions.
What is an example of false science?
@@kosefixUniverse from nothing, multiverses, primordial soup, billions of years, human evolution from apes, junk DNA are all examples of false science
I'm taking AP World History, and one of the first things my teacher said about Christianity was that Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah and that Christians argued this was due to his humility. I shared with him John 4:25-26 immediately after, and he said, "Oh, 'll look into it then." saying he studied world religions as an interest. Deception is causing misinformation. Please make sure we as Christians know the word so we can to tell the truth from a historical and spiritual standpoint. Jesus Christ needs the representative he deserves, albeit we can never fully and perfectly represent him, at least we can do our best by the Holy Spirit working mightily in us, giving us the desire to do his will.
Your world history teacher saying that Jesus never claimed to be the Messiah sounds like something an Islamic person would say.
How can a history teacher be so ignorant?
And then you woke up and realized it was Saturday. The old student teaching the teacher plot twist.
@@fredwoods-o3g Oh please, teachers can definitely be wrong or misinformed especially on a topic like history or religion, no plot twist here
@@weepingj While that's true, it's also a common apologetics story. In reality, an AP history teacher has no business bringing up these claims about Jesus, and if they do it as part of class, how is it they never herd the verse before?
Atheists will tell me to be rational. And I am rational, which is why I am Christian.
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What they consider to be "rational" is really just accepting a lot of modern pressupositions that came from the enlightment.
Christianity is literally the death of logic
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@@timhartman3359 I bet you feel really smart right now don’t you little Timmy
"I'm not arguing for Christianity in this video, I'm just arguing for the objective historical facts"
That's called arguing for Christianity. Christ is king ✝
EDIT: Fun fact, the Islamic Golden Age was about 1% Islam and 99% the Persians.
The arabization of the middle east (and a little beyond) was horrible Iranians and Egyptians had such a cool culture before their fall too:(
What would a golden age of a religion even entail? I assumed everyone knew that that term refers to the Islamic world not the religion itself lol
Islamic Golden Age is 40% Assyrian and Melkite Christians who had knowledge of both Greek and Arabic so they helped translating classics into Arabic.
Al Ghazali would like a word with you
Persians were fucking based, until a drugged old man with a silly beard and his own cult said "Fuck that, gimme power, women and wealth!"
Remember: science is perfectly okay to study as a Christian. I have never seen anything wrong with studying God's creations and how they work. It's wonderful to work with science.
Nowadays, unfortunately, the persecution of the first Christians is forgotten. I highly recommend the historical novel by the Polish Nobel Prize winner Henryk Sienkiewicz "Quo Vadis"
Maybe because it's been widely misrepresented by salty medieval authors. Quo Vadis is ahistorical.
@@giantotter319, In the case of medieval works, what we currently know is interpreted based on ancient accounts (which have been preserved directly or indirectly), so I don't think they are lying much in this matter.
"Quo Vadis" is not ahistorical. It is a historical NOVEL, so it was not written in those times (you can see from the author's last name), but Sienkiewicz really had a good historical workshop, and the novel reflects the spirit of those times
@@jakubkosz1009 There is plenty of ancient sources which were preserved through greeks or muslims. Christian authors have changed some of the narratives, though - namely the persecution of christians. For example the idea that Nero was insane and hated does not fit the way he was described at his time - he was bad at running rome and spent a lot of time on nonsense, but compared to many emperors he was almost capable. Also pretty popular in eastern part of the empire. Also Ogniem i Meczem is better.
Yes, I have read and re-read this novel from my teen years. I grew up in West Germany after WWII. My father was in the USAF and a "history nerd". We lived near Trier and often visited the Roman ruins and my father told my sister and I about how the Roman's "threw" Christians to the lions and other wild animals in the amphitheater. This book helped make me a more devout Christian. I have an original edition.
@@jilledmondson6894, as a Pole and Catholic I'm glad you liked it :) I am at my 22s and I just discovered this for myself (but generally in my country it is widely known). I saw that this reading allowed me to better understand my faith too (its sources, my behavior as a non-believer who is undergoing transformation, etc.). Greetings :)
I believed the good people go to heaven myth until I became a Christian. Amazing how badly the world is lied to.
Good people do go to heaven but not because they earned it. Be careful how you word things like this especially around children and non-believers. You will confuse people.
@stevied3400 there are no good people. No one is good but the Father
@@aaronharlow2137those who partake in the nature of God will be saved
@@aaronharlow2137 So no one is good. All the infants god killed in the flood? All evil. The 1000+ infants that die every day. All evil? All deserving of hell? Any religion that teaches you all kids are worthless wretches worthy of eternal torture is vile. Any God that tricks you into being born owing him worship or else be evicted into hell is a horrible being and even worse landlord.
Only by indoctrination of children or preying on the poor, drug addicted, and desperate, only through war, colonization, and threat of punishment are you able to coerce people into believing this nonsense. I have no problem letting my kid read any religious book including the Bible because I didn't indoctrinate them by saying there is only 1 truth and I'm the one that discovered it. All contradictions are false. I teach them to think critically and evaluate what they see and read. If Christians did this the religion would be dead in a decade, not counting the already indoctrinated.
@@aaronharlow2137God specifically deemed creation good, are we not creation?
After reading the Bible myself, I discovered that Jesus Christ is life Himself. Life is ultimately meaningless without God and I am glad that the Lord showed me and many others His mercy.
Yes!
When I read the Bible, God opened my eyes and showed me Jesus is real and truly the Son of God!
life is meaningless with god as that means you've thrown all logic and rational thought out the window 😂😂😂 but have fun sleeping for all eternity
@@griffin9478 At least I’ll have lived a moral life and done objective good. So yes, I will sleep well. My question for you is, since God is real, where will you spend eternity?
@@Thatoneguy-pu8tyhe'll spend it in hell that's for sure 😂
@@griffin9478Bro did not listen to the video. Yap yap yap sucker
It always kills me when I hear people say "Christians are just as violent as followers of the 7th-century prophet" and then they somehow try to compare a couple of sentences in Deuteronomy, and a few crusaders, with 1300 years of imperialism from the mideast and a huge percentage of that prophet's scriptures. And in current times, the only people I have ever seen politely knocking on doors with literature and kind persuasion are various self-proclaimed Christians (whether or not you want to grant Witnesses and/or LDSers that moniker).
Meh I've me plenty of Hindu Proselytisers.
Probably a difference though, is they usually want to sell you something at the same time.
You can't just ignore "a couple of verses in Deuteronomy" that urge genocide.
I once had someone somehow compare me to the Taliban. Right, because not killing isn't in the 10 commandments at all.
I absolutely HATE when Christians juxtapose “old testament god” and “New Testament god.” It reeks of Marcionism.
Well yeah, I imagine yall hating that. Those darn prophets, can't live with them, can't live without them.
@Ask_Xi It doesn't say young girls, but women and children (as separate nouns). And, where does it say to make them into slaves?
If you interpret in a modern English context a translation of the Hebrew, then you can abstract it enough to metaphorically mean keep alive as in keep servants for yourself, but a charitable reading or just the actual Hebrew says to cause them to live amongst you. It's not enslaving them, it never says that anywhere in the text in Numbers 31, it's telling them to adopt them into the tribes of Israel.
They killed everyone who was married, probably because you hold an allegiance to those you're married to (God considers the married as becoming One), but someone who is without allegiance to the soldiers of the Midianites can be part of the Israelite tribe.
@@koderamerikaner5147 Congratulations! You have just justified genocide and sex slavery.
@@kevinkelly2162it is neither genocide or sex slavery
@Ask_Xi Numbers 18 clearly outlines the disgusting sexual deviancy of the surrounding pagan nations, the same kind of deviancy we now see becoming normalised in our own society now that it has opted to return to paganism.
And here you are, running to the defence of those people and their deviancy...
Athiest reddit is alone enough for me to reject athiesm embrace christianity
Atheism is the default position.
We know its the default position. Default because its the starting point from a lack of gained knowledge @lennonkelly-james2693
@@johnmcclane3747 The Bible is a book of fables and half-truths. It's for bad people who need to be mentally chained to stop them from doing bad things. Usually doesn't help though.
@@lennonkelly-james2693 It was met thousands of years ago. It's been above the threshold of proof for millennia. Remember how literally hundreds of people saw Jesus after he was executed, before he literally hovered into the sky? Remember the four separate books written by four separate witnesses of this event, differing only slightly in wording? The proof is laid out to see, but many, as well as you, refuse to accept it as truth. Those four men who wrote the books describing their time with Jesus all died in brutal, painful manners. Nobody would go through that for a lie.
@@lennonkelly-james2693 there's plenty of proof
Most Christians need to know that just wearing a cross necklace or just going to church doesn’t make you a Christian. Take control of your faith and build a relationship with Christ!
Russian foreign minister is Armenian
Классно.
But if you don’t follow Christ even after being Baptized, are you still Christian? The definition of Christian is a follower of Christ, so wouldn’t you not be a Christian?
What part of the Nicene Creed, would the Filioque be apart of that? Both Orthodoxy and Western Churches have different views and each redefine the Trinity.
@@lutheranrussianI feel like nowadays if you wear a necklace you're LESS likely to take the faith seriously.
Jesus Christ be praised
Always!!!
I mean I liked Santa Claus as a kid too but everyone's gotta grow up eventually
@@griffin9478All the pagans are mouthy until God raises up more dedicated pagans to hand your ass to you right before He comes to deal with you personally. Islam is riding high at one quarter of all people on earth and one quarter of all land and our governments have been giving them a free pass into our countries for a while at this point. Mouth off now before you hear the shahada slipping out from between your lips because its coming sooner than you will be able to accept and we both know you lack the constitution and the masculinity to speak thusly to them.
@@griffin9478which is why i can confidently say Jesus Christ is King and santa claus isnt. Because while no records of a red fat man flying around exist as real proof, we have plenty of the life of Jesus Christ, and his resurrection. However, we both know you didnt make this statement in good faith
@@griffin9478have your parents ever teaches you the concept of "respect" or is it just a myth
Bro my ancient world history teacher was talking about religion, and we had an assignment called “Islamic achievements” and half of the “Islamic” achievements were done by the Catholic Church 😭😭 like science and hospitals
nobody "does" science as an achievement, you seem to be pretty lost in this.
@@giantotter319 The only one lost here is you, he never said anything about anyone doing science for achievements, he said that for a school assignment he had to read up about modern innovations achieved by Islam, but half of the innovations we're done by the church. You call him lost yet you managed to completely misunderstand what the dude was trying to say all because of one word LMAO
@@AoMohammed Congratulation on repeating the same thing he wrote, guess that's only thing you all are good for. Point still stands. And as far as those christian innovations go, most in one way or another originated with greeks, muslims or jews. Christians just had a talent for codifying it. That was the case with math, healthcare, even cuisine.
@giantotter319 you have no idea what your talking about. Christianity invented modern science. Not the Greeks or the Muslims or any eastern cultures. Because Christianity gave many of the axioms and presupositions that are necessary for modern science to work.
Generations of historians and sociologists have discovered many ways in which Christians, Christian beliefs, and Christian institutions played crucial roles in fashioning the tenets, methods, and institutions of what in time became modern science. They found that some forms of Christianity provided the motivation to study nature systematically.[52]
- Noah J. Efron
@@giantotter319The three pre-conditions just discussed-the translations, the universities, and the theologian-natural philosophers-laid a foundation for the emergence of modern science because they provided an environment that was conducive to the study of science. . . . And without the support of the theologians and the Church, the medieval universities would have been unable to institute the science-logic-natural philosophy curriculum that began Western Europe’s long, uninterrupted involvement with scientific thought and problems Grant, The Foundations of Modern Science
If only Young Sheldon could see this video
He isn't real
@@Zedreconno
Young Sheldon that is
@@Iesous_Christos_Nika_7 no what
@@Zedrecon Young Sheldon will be real in 52 minutes
When people told me that Rome released lions on criminals in the colosseum, they did not tell me the criminals were Christian’s.
I think these myths are so pervasive that I often hear it from non-believers when I mentioned that I'm a Christian (I live all the way in SE Asia). People would try to argue with me about the bible over some grounds that they themselves aren't sure about. But I think all Christians should be equipped and ready to confront these arguments (1 Peter 3:15) hence why theology is essential. Thank you for the video!
"Now go and smite Amalek and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
1 Samuel 15:3, KJ21
Can you help me make this a just command from God? It is the children part i have a problem with...
When you are reading the bible you need to read it with the cultural context. The meaning of the verse yiu sent is not the complete physical murder of the amalek ppls but the destruction of their cultureal identity. The verse is akin to more like how ppl today says i completely murdered the other team etc.
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@@thomb.1326 Leviticus 18 explains it. These people were disgusting and they condemned their children and their civilisations to destruction...much like our own culture is apparently aiming for.
@Rocky-ur9mn
1.Why is it so specific in that even the infants and cattle are to be destroyed?
2.Its the COMMAND from God to Samuel, (very clear from the text if it is not misstranslated, wich gives a rise to many other problems if so) NOT the actual action that happend, since Saul actually didnt follow through, he Spared the King and some of the better cattle to offerd to God.
THEN he gets confronted by the profet Samuel, who reprimanded him for sparing the cattle and the King, Samuel then Beheads the King, Saul abdicates and David becomes the new king and God regrets that he made Saul king.
I know that the Amalekites werent wiped out, they reappear later in the texts.
My problem is again with the COMMAND OF SLAUGHTER and the reprimand for not following through, or the claim of inerrancy of the texts themselves (Jesus own words)
"Science is the study of God's creation" ❤✝️
Just last day I was thought in a nursing Class that Christianity brought a dark Age in Nursing
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How did they come to that conclusion? Since they probably mean medieval times, Paul of Aegina and the Byzantine medical community would like to have a word. Just because they were working with theories(like the 4 Humors) that are outdated and completely absurd now doesn't mean it was a dark age
Where do they think the name of the Knights Hospitaller came from?
@@RabidLeech1 I assume its because they literally thought demons were possessing people during epileptic episodes rather than trying to figure out it was uncontrollable fires in the brains neurons.
@@nickhadknacks-z9qHow dare those backwards people not have access to time machines to be able to use EEG! Who cares that it wasn't invented until *checks notes* 1924(some research on electrical activity going back to the 1870s)?! That goes against this narrative I've built!
The Book of Genesis is what inspired the Big Bang Theory btw.
@@nicanorfredricksbirdrealm228 Eh, maybe in part. But it seems to me that part is limited mostly to the fact that both have the universe beginning to exist.
Genesis doesn’t line up with Big Bang Theory at all. First of all, the theory says nothing about the beginning of the universe, only the universe in its current form.
Take another look at Genesis 1. The Earth is unformed, and there is a vast ocean. That’s not empty. It actually aligns with an ancient model of the Earth: A flat disk where the sky is water contained in a solid firmament and held up by pillars. This idea pops up in various other places, especially Job 38-39.
@@seanpierce9386the Bible does not support the flat earth theory. you are referencing Genesis 1, yet are ignoring the Bible saying that light was created first, which holds to the Big Bang theory and our modern understanding of electromagnetism, amongst the foundation of all universal constants that hold space, matter and time together.
Christians do not typically hold to a flat earth view of the world, simply because the Bible does not confirm a flat earth creation of the world. The Bible isn’t primarily a scientific text, but people weren’t as ignorant as we think they were, considering Babylon had access to calculus dating back to the construction of the tower of Babel.
@@oxideaitunim What we call the speed of light is a universal speed limit. Photons just happen to travel at that speed through a vacuum, and they slow down in a medium due to the properties of waves. We have no idea what particles were created first, but given that the physics of the early universe were completely different than our own, it cannot have been anything we would call light. You’re probably just using this fact as a memorized apologetic. I would encourage you to think about the problem yourself.
You can’t have it both ways. Is the Bible scientifically accurate or not? If it is, then everything should be totally accurate with no mistakes. If it’s not, then why would a God-inspired book contain only the understanding of the world available to the people who wrote it? This is especially relevant in Job, where God is specifically trying to display His unknowable greatness with no need to appear reasonable to the people at the time.
@@jdotoz No. The big bang theory is about the expansion of the Universe, not the origin of the Universe.
if someone tells you christianity caused the crusades( 3 milion deaths in almost 200 years) then tell them atheism caused ww2, stalins soviet union and maos regime( ~150 milion deaths in ~50 years)
Also, before crusades muslims did lots of cruel, evil things and so the crusades had to stop the evil
How did atheism cause WWII? Pretty sure WWII was caused by nationalism, fascism, militaristic jingoism, and the Treaty of Versailles. And antisemitism, sure. But atheism? Yeah, I don’t think atheism caused WWII.
Also correlation does not equal causation. Just because Mao and Stalin were atheists doesn’t mean atheism caused them to commit atrocities.
Also, even if I grant *everything* you say as true (I.e. atheism killed 150 million), this entire argument is a whataboutism fallacy. Instead of addressing the deaths caused by Christians, you don’t deny they did it and that it was wrong, you just say “well atheists are worse,” which doesn’t vindicate Christianity. That would be like, if I said “9/11 was bad,” and someone replied “hey less than 3000 died in 9/11 but six million died in the Holocaust, why are you criticizing Al Qaeda buddy the Nazis are worse.”
None of these dictatorships were motivated by atheism though.
How about a better idea, do not generalize every problem to the world to a Religion, be a good representative of God and view everything in full lens
@@caseycrowe3805 It's a bad argument yes. But to deny that the fruit of atheistic ideology "nationalism, fascism, militaristic jingoism" involved in a large amount of deaths in the 21st century is a failure to understand history and sociology. The fact is that atheism doesnt generate a worldview that ends with the overall benefit of mankind.
Christianity has improved the lives of every country it's been to. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty.
Africa and India strongly disagree
@@samosadosa2409 Huh? In both those places Christian ministries have been giving a lot of aid lol.
@@donut9719 Through colonialism, hell yeah. Do you understand how that's wrong, or do you need to hear about the murdered native children in christian schools in canada?
@@giantotter319 Colonialism =/= Christian ministries. Those schools WERE ran by the Canadian colonial government.
@@giantotter319 Christ is not Christianity bro
Science and christianity or theism period, are two beliefs that do not contradict each other. You can believe in both, and both come together perfectly
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@@alfieingrouille1528 we evolved from monkeys
W theistic evolution
My big thing is I have never heard a compelling argument for physical Death existing before the fall
No, science and any religion are contradictory. Faith cannot coexist with rationality. What is not ultimately testable and repeatable is not science. A good scientist never says 'oh, this must be real!' but has to constantly look and see if things work to declare that what they have is a working theory. Any loyalty to any God is thus contradictory to how science works
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You will never see your loved ones again. Have fun believing in nothing 😂😂😂
@@griffin9478 Are You serious Believe a true will hear on your words?
@@griffin9478 The devil is deep in You, i pray for You!
"christianity spread mostly by conquest"
that much better describes a certain mideast religion
A certain middle-eastern religion which _invented_ "Holy War" and whose sacred texts actively promote it as a method of evangelism.
The religion of Ares isn’t Middle Eastern.
How do you think people heard about Christianity? Do you think people back then had flyers raining down from the sky, preaching about God and His Prophets? Yes, Islam spread by conquest. Yes, Christianity also spread by conquest.
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referring to the thumbnail, my school got like 10x more liberal this year, last year it was pretty much not political at all, this year they had a whole ass 30 minute talk to not disrespect gender identity and sexual orientation and to be inclusive and shit, but they skimmed over racism in like 5 secs
Lol
both should be talked about
It’s political to not disrespect peoples gender identities?
@@Colddirector gender identity as a concept is political even
@@kaiserv1n Not actively disrespecting someones gender identity shouldn't be. That should be simple courtesy.
The anti-science one is particularly obnoxious. It’s been mostly pretty well debunked for decades now.
Its mainly to do with the history of the churches being against anything science related. Like the invention of the lightning rod, evolution,big bang cosmology etc
@ In what sense?
@@TitusCastiglione1503 religious institutions have historically been against fields of study that challenge religious beliefs.
@@Dcm193 what evidence has led you to this conclusion?
@@TitusCastiglione1503 snopes monkey trial
Another myth is that Christianity does not treat women well.
Salve Regina
Oh, and as of today, it’s her birthday as well! Happy birthday, Mother Mary!🥳
Christianity freed women by comparison to how they were treated under the paganisms of antique europe
@@nocsiou”better” does not mean “good”.
@@ColddirectorJust learn to be appreciative at this point.
Christianity was doing for things paganism wasn't in the most extreme misorgistic time.
@@user-Strong.Trinitarian Except Christian organizations consistently fight to hold back women’s rights right up to the modern day. This is like telling a plebeian to be grateful to the Roman Senate for overthrowing the monarchy to institute the republic when those same senators were weaponizing said republic to screw them over at every turn.
@@user-Strong.Trinitarian My reply got deleted. I said nothing even remotely edgy or TOS breaking. TH-cam’s management keeps getting worse by the fucking year.
To be clear it’s almost certainly not RZ’a fault, it’s TH-cam’s worthless automated content moderation. They’re likely using an LLM to filter comments, which is insane because it effectively means nobody even knows what the rules are and they’ll keep changing as the LLM intakes more data. I hate AI so much like you wouldn’t believe.
One time, I was reading a history book in high school that erroneously stated that the Gospels were "..filled with contradictions". That's a false and very biased statement to make, and its totally unnecessary with regard to Jesus and the writings of his disciples.
Its a very true statement. You are biased for saying it has no contradictions.
@@Dcm193 no its really not, and I never said it has zero contradictions. I was trying to say that a more neutral statement or position should have been in the textbook. Also read Hegel, contradiction actually creates new knowledge through the dialectical process.
Was anyone else here home schooled? Probably the only time in my life when I got enough sleep.
Homeschooling sucks, especially went hyper conservatives do it
I wasn't home schooled but I have a feeling that high school is an attempt to adjust you to a sleep deprived 9-5 life
Even middle age peasants got more time off than we do now
@@reisen9235 Exactly. It's completely insane that we teach people how long they should sleep and then just make them wake up at 7am(at least in my school).
Sup dude.
fellow homeschooled fella here, homeschooling also helped me bring back my faith🙏🏻
Actually science works better in christianity than in atheism
Its certainly more openminded bc we believe in heavens/hells/purgatory etc aka dimensions...
❤ in my mind anyhow
I’m curious why you think that. Do you think science was handed down to us by God Himself (directly or indirectly)? And if so, why didn’t He provide this earlier, in the Bible itself, like so many people expect?
@@ProchoicePeopleAreSociopaths Science is about what you can prove, not your fantasy world.
@@kevinkelly2162 science proved Jesus existed
@@ProchoicePeopleAreSociopaths How and when?
Public school is horrible.
Look your probably right in many ways. But how is this helping seriously. How is statement public school is horrible helpful or good in any way. I'm a Christian I am going to public. Every single public is different. If someone told you all x is bad you would totally disagree. Like I highly doubt you would say scab. if you want to change the systems don't sit on the sidelines
amen brother
Nah, only if you live in the US. In Europe it's fairly decent.
It's not a sin for a Christian family to carefully make use of public school, as long as they monitor what is being taught and they are ready to pull their kids out if necessary. But as/if society improves we will come to realize that educating kids is way outside of the government's job and the government's aptitude.
@@joaovidentedefine fairly decent though. What school are you using as the measurement to compare the European public schools?
I'll also add that a lot of Galileo's issue was that he was being kind of a jerk(still a lot of historical debate about whether this was intentional) by putting the Pope's objections, in a book he wrote in Italian(writing in the common language, rather than Latin was a very anti-establishment move at the time), in the mouth of a character named Simplicio, meaning buffoon, and that he refused to show his work and answer the Pope's theological concerns. This was also only about a decade or two after Martin Luther's 95 Theses so the Catholics were very paranoid about any challenges to their supposed authority at the time.
Galileo was twisting scripture to justify his belief, not because we Catholics were paranoid about authority. Also he was teaching his theory as fact while not having sufficent proof. Go to your local uni and teach some crack pot idea with NO PROOF and see how long you stay as a teacher.
He also claimed to be on firmer scientific ground than he was. Yes, he turned out to be mostly correct, but he didn't have enough evidence at the time.
It also didn't help Galileo's case that his model of planetary motion... didn't conform to the history of observations and could not make accurate predictions for the future. A lot of folks get wrapped up in the fact he was right about heliocentrism, but ignore the fact he was completely WRONG regarding orbits, Galileo believed orbits to be perfect circles.
As Kepler later figured out, orbits are NOT circles, they're elliptical, and that makes a MASSIVE difference when you start trying to use circle orbits to calculate the positions of planets.
Meanwhile, the model of the solar system in use at the time, a hybrid model that actually assumed the sun, moon and outer planets orbited Earth while the Inner planets orbited the sun, was actually MORE PREDICTIVE of planetary motion and BETTER FIT the historically recorded positional data.
In other words, Galileo was actually in many ways LESS scientific than the Catholic Church at the time, as he refused to consider other options even when his model did not fit observed data.
@@jdotoz No, he wasn't "mostly correct", his model was less predictive of planetary motion than either the full geocentric model complete with epicycles or the hybrid model that I mentioned.
The ONLY things his model got correct were the relative positions of the planets AND heliocentrism. But his model could not be taken, plugged in any date, and then accurately predict the location the planets would be in the night sky. Thus he was wrong about SIX OTHER aspects of his model (the orbits of the known planets at the time).
Last I checked getting that much of an assignment observably wrong was a failing grade. :P
@@peregry Compared to the mainstream model of the time I'd say it was pretty good.
Anyone who reads Daniel, Genesis or Revelation, knows God and Science go together.
And anyone with common sense and rational thought knows that God doesn't exist
@@griffin9478 So there was nothing then there was something then that something was stable enough to form but wasn't really that stable or something from nothing caused it to explode thus the big bang.
Genesis is very unscientific that many apologists try to act as if it's mistranslated not literal etc
@@kisstune don't get me wrong this guy is a dick but the earth was eternal and the big bang just changed it's form
Genesis1 takes its story from enoma elish which in both a god is splitting the water (which goddess Tiamat which is chaotic dragon with many heads) and those splitted parts become heaven & earth and bible refer to that dragon in (psalm74:13) and many other places by name leviathan ;it’s polytheistic story with many errors
Went to public school and secular university... It's more common than not for people to believe all of these lies
0:45 There is a really good video by a TH-camr known as InspiringPhilosophy on this called “Christianity's War Against Science Debunked!” if you want to learn more.
Inspiring philosophy is one of my favorite TH-camrs
I have officially drafted myself into the IP Mafia. Yes, he does a wonderful job.
As a Muslim I found this video very informative. Thank you.
8 That christians are unskilled dancers.
that one isnt a myth
@@redeemedzoomer6053 Latino Catholics that know how to dance be like
@@redeemedzoomer6053 In Ohio, it is
@@redeemedzoomer6053Black Baptist churches would beg to differ
@@mandiocatostada3859 Ohio is a hoax
I usually dumb it down for atheists but here's how it works in the Old Testament:
Israel: Help us!
God: Sure.
Israel in desert betrays God.
God spanks Israel then says: I barely saved you and you turn your backs on me? I'm gonna leave! "
Israel: Please don't, we're sorry.
God: Then worship me like you promised.
Israel: Can we have a King?
God: But I'm your King.
Israel: Please?
God: Sure. Here's a nice kid, David.
Later... Israel: Look at Baal, he looks nice. Let's worship him.
God: Not again.
God spanks Israel.
God: They are so forgetful, so I'll send them prophets to remind them.
Israel: We don't like these prophets, they keep saying bad things. Let's chase them away.
God spanks Israel again.
Israel says sorry.
God: I forgive you. So much so that I'll send you a Messiah.
Israel: Cool.
God: So stop chasing my prophets away.
Later... Israel betrays God and kills prophets.
God spanks Israel.
God: This is your last warning. Your punisment will last 400 years since I just can't get through to you. Come back when you are called.
Thus it was the reason why He was called the long-suffering, all-loving and forgiving God.
God you're an asshat dude💀
I find it interesting that a public school is the thumbnail for this video because here in New Zealand public schools often have better values and beliefs than the 'Christian' private schools. Public schools here also tend to have a wider and diverse groups of people than private schools and so religion, while not taught, is often discussed among students. My public school in Christchurch has a very large student bible study that kids attend and religion is not mentioned in our science classes and our teachers allow us to hold our own beliefs.
Just my random thoughts, great video, keep up the good work RZ😊
you'd need for americans to care about the rest of the world for this to be relevant.
Chch is generally more conservative than the rest of the country. Public schools in Wellington, not so great.
@@vijilantVery true, a lot of kids in Chch are actually farmers who are boarding at a town school.
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@@giantotter319 That's a bit unfair. This video is clearly made by an American for an American audience. He specifically stated in his intro that he's responding to lies told during his time in public school. He can't be expected to respond to every lie told across the entire world.
@@dahliaherrod4301 No, zoomer purposefully tried to make a statement of Public school - Bad and lies to you/ Christian school - Good and tells you truth. Even in the title of the video. He doesn't have to respond to everything, just needs to treat the subject with level head and stop trying to divide people.
The worst lie I was taught about Christianity is that we are all "friends." We are not friends.
Who is "we"?
@@marlon8095 The children of God, the people that are made in God's image, people who are in the same religion as you, people in the comments who are religious, people who The Lord gives visions to, people who The Lord gives missions to...etc.
Your best video in a while. Thank you!
Could you do video on Eastern Catholicism similarly you did with Lutheranism, Baptism, Catholicism, Orthodoxy please?
Why? Eastern Catholicism is just in between Catholicism and Orthodoxy. It’s got no unique features of its own
Eastern Catholicism is just Catholics who larp as Orthodox and they don't even do a good job, like they combine Eastern and western customs in some places so its just so weird
Eastern Catholicism is a rite within the Catholic Church
I dislike Eastern Catholicism for how it tends to be seen. Eastern Catholics portray it as this kind of "reasonable middle ground" between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, but then you realise many of their beliefs are heretical to Catholics and it drags the Catholics down by showing that they're willing to tolerate literal heresies for the sake of unity and having more groups in communion with the pope.
@@itapi697 I know.
There's no conflict between religion and science. Science explains how, religion explains why.
Bro called me out for not doing homework lol 🤣
Christ is King ☦️🗿
The idea that Christianity questioned and opposed scientific progress was touted throughout my educational career. It's sad that people still think this is true. Most Universities have their roots in Christianity.
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It’s undeniably true with young earth creationism. Evolution had and still has significant opposition on explicitly religious grounds.
@@Colddirector nope, the catholic church in spain was what funded Columbus' journey. They must have known the world wasn't flat to send someone around the world. Please do research
@@Colddirector Science started long before evolution came on the scene.
@@rebeccalindley153 okay? that doesn’t change my argument in the slightest
God called me out 11:35 😭
Same lmao
real
bro always has to bring up the 20 highlighter girl
Hey! Just found your channel! I'm a new lutheran and your video are amazing! God bless!🙏🏻
Random question, what’s y’all’s favorite worship song? I’m Southern Baptist and mine is Gloria Patri.
He Reigns - Newsboys
Jesus keep me near the cross, old hymn
I am a Seventh-Day Adventist and we should get together sometime over Discord, Zoom etc. to exchange ideas. I welcome you to learn about our beliefs so you may present an accurate representation and can either refute or agree with. I am also interested in learning about your points, though I have seen many of your videos and like them for the most part. Thank you and may God bless.
Let me guess your sda because your parents converted when you were young
@@Chance_Rice Yes, I was raised an SDA. So what? Does that mean I cannot do my own research? That I follow blindly without testing their claims against the Bible? Just because someone was raised a certain way does not me that they do not do their own research. If you can show me in the Bible where I am wrong I will recant everything. But if you cannot then the truth must be accepted.
@thesagerodel4485 it was a joke because that's how most ppl convert
6:50 John Brown was kind of my gateway drug to conversion, I'm from where he was born and that motivated me to study him. The lyrics
"John Brown was John the Baptist of the Christ we are to see, Christ who of the bondsmen shall the liberator be, and soon throughout the sunny south the slaves will all be free, his soul is marching on- The conflict that he heralded, he looks on from Heaven to view, on the army of the Union with its flag red, white and blue, and Heaven shall ring with anthems over the deed they mean to do, his soul is marching on"
from the original "John Brown's Body" lyrics printed in The Tribune on December 16, 1861 made me weep. They still do most of the time.
Good book on this: Dominion by Tom Holland. Answers a lot of these ridiculous things from a secular standpoint.
Thanks for this great video, it's been a blessing to me!
I used to go to public school as catholic but the school did things like allowing discrimination of religion and it didn’t allow religious scripture to be read
Not to mention, many scientists were not only Christians but owed their discoveries and inventions to Christianity and the Bible.
Matthew Fontaine Maury was a naval officer and the founder of oceanography. He discovered the currents of the ocean after reading Psalm 8 and dedicating his life to it. Such currents are used today for shipping routes, freight and oil distribution, and underwater cables.
"many scientists were not only Christians but owed their discoveries and inventions to Christianity and the Bible." I disagree that "many" scientist claimed that their faith allowed them to make scientific discoveries. Regardless you have only cited one example. can you cite 3 more so that your quantifying word "many" is true? thank you my friend.
@@TboneWTFStephen Barr, Laura Bassi, John Billings, Édouard Eugène Désiré Branly, even gave you an extra ;)
@@robertm3329 Thank you for the response my friend. So how do these people prove that god exists? How are they any different from other believers? Can you now offer proof for gods existence? Thank you.
@@TboneWTFYou must be really strong if you can move the goalpost that far.
@@gamemakerloch6964 LOL. And you can't offer any credible answers as to why being a religious scientist proves there is a god. Good luck my friend.
For those interested...Truth:
1) Christianity includes science
2) Christianity spread because it's the only God created / human discovered Way of Life
3) Christianity unites, but imperfect humans (including dedicated spiritually immature Christians) oppress themselves and others
4) Christians temporarily go to the paradise component of current heaven (e.g. soul is saved) and everyone else temporarily goes to Hades. When the new heaven/earth is here, on Judgement Day, either each human's soul is redeemed and their spiritual body is united with God and others in the new heaven eternally, or the human's soul is destroyed and spiritual body is eternally separated from God in hell.
5) One of God's many types of perfection is teleios (constantly spiritually maturing), hence God from Old to New Testament.
6) There is one Truth. The rare "narrow is the path" spiritually maturing Christians are one with the Truth: God gives free will (there is no predestination), real baptism (e.g. establishing spiritual connection with God) naturally eventually happens after a human starts and grows a relationship with God, etc.
7) Christians have discovered more of God and His/our reality over time...but the Truth hasn't changed.
Glad you're as insistent on the "Christianity is not anti-science" point as you are. Speaking as someone who is both Baptist in theology but also accepting of things like evolution, I often feel like I'm stuck in the middle of the Conflict Theory hitting me from both directions when I mention I'm not a YEC. My fellow conservative evangelicals tend to be YEC, although thankfully, nobody has called me a heretic, and often think I'm not being faithful to the text(Ignoring the many textual issues of YEC like the Tree of Life problem in Gen 3:22-24 that you've mentioned before and why the tree needed to be "guarded" if it was simply an obedience thing, or the question of how Day and Evening could exist and be 24-hour periods before the Sun and Moon were a thing, or how Adam and Eve had a frame of reference of death pre-Fall as shown in Gen 2:17 and 3:4, or why the animals needed to be "subdued" if everything was peaceful in the Animal Kingdom before the Fall, or how plants which are also living things could be food before death.) and atheists will think I'm inherently illogical for rationally coming back(I had almost completely lost my faith in college due to being confronted with secular biblical theory despite being at a Baptist college, along with things in my personal life) to the idea that God exists at all.
That idea that Christianity and mainstream science are incompatible is beyond frustrating. Even those YEC who are scientific about it like my pastor(who is a fantastic man of God btw, not attacking him or his faith here) reject mainstream science. Think we all need to have a bit more grace on that question and accept that it's an issue that strong, reasonable Christians, can disagree on.
Why do you believe in evolution? It can't be proven, and many scientists don't even believe it.
Not to sound dumb but what does YEC mean
@@AoMohammed YEC=young earth creationist. These are the people who take the 6 days in Genesis hyperliterally and believe in a 6,000 year old Earth.
@@bigfennecI don't necessarily have an issue with most YEC people. I disagree with them and do have issues with those who will go around claiming those like me are heretics and saying that any other view means you're not a serious Christian but not with YEC people in general(most of the people in my church family are YEC after all.) They are good, solid Christians, and I fully acknowledge and respect their faith and viewpoints.
@@HistoryNerd808 the problem is there there is literally a verse in gensis that defines what one day is. "God called the light “day” and the darkness “night.” And evening passed and morning came, marking the first day." so one day in genesis has a morning evening and night. and if we say, one day in genesis is 1000 years maybe, that would mean 333 days were just straight sunshine, and 333 years had straight darkness.
i want to hear your oppinion about Nietzche's theories about christianity, could be a cool video
Love and peace all my brothers and sisters in Christ who are sharing the truth🙏❤✝
and everyone else😚
7:34 early church fathers weren’t the only early anti slavery Christian’s. There was also Moses himself freeing the lord’s people from Egyptian slavery so he could lead them to their designated holy land
The only thing that any Christian should say regarding slavery is that Christian nations ENDED IT. Not just within themselves. The entire Muslim world gave up on slavery because of Christian nations warships parked in front of their coast.
RZ, since you are a Minecraft youtuber, you should make a reaction to the trailer for the live action movie
I sadly had to go back to public school after being homeschooled for 6 years.
In school, when I was in 6th grade. I was taught about Bhuddism, Hinduism, Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. What I can remember about was taught about Christianity in school, was that Jesus was the son of God and when I asked if Jesus was a demigod my teacher answered that Jesus is both God and human at the same time which I didn’t understand at the time. I believe that my teacher taught about religion in a very respectful way, but I do hold the belief that people shouldn’t teach about a religion unless they have a deep knowledge and understanding of it.
Its even common here in Philippines
Hey Zoomer, you should make a video debunking common misconceptions about the Puritans.
Open Communist Arthur Miller has the monopoly on defaming the Puritans, specifically with his propaganda The Crucible being taught by retarded English teachers everywhere. It's difficult to fathom that by contrast, pretty much everybody you ever ask will have no idea what a "Holodomor" is. The death toll difference is only about 10-11 million minus 23 or so. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you modern mass education!
Im a Christian; but also a longical person.
One of the things people get wrong about Christianity or religion in general, is that if we belive in God, we cant be rational or logical beings. But that isnt true. God wants us to be logical beings. He wants us to think for ourselves. But when we use science and reson against Him; that's when it bbwcomes wrong.
How could one possibly use science and reason against an existing God?
I'm wondering
@@ichsehsanders there are lots of evidence that a world wide flood did not happen, there is no way humans were created just one day after ALL animals were created.
@@ichsehsandersthere’s no absolute proof that god exists. Much less that god being from the Bible. That’s what they mean. We move based on belief and faith, not science
My school NEVER taught any of that stuff. Every teacher I have had as been Christian or just never touch religion at all, my science teacher is Catholic, my old history teacher spent a lesson all on B.C. and A.D. and how it does not stand for after death. And everyone who went to my school was Christian, I know only 2 kids who are atheist, and they don't even debate about it, they respect that people believe that God is real and is the Lord. My public school is one of the best, I hope you all have good ones too, and if you don't, make them good ones.
I’ve always enjoyed your videos. I have kind of developed an almost obsession for learning other people’s theology. The problem being that the only thing that interest me anymore is others theology. I’ve kind of discovered that I have been so overstated with the Jesus died for you, that I don’t really care anymore.
Just so everyone knows.. the Catholics and protestants agreed a long time ago that both their understandings of what consitutes salavtion is legitante . Both agree the other is saved
GLAD TO BE HOME SCHOOLED
I'm not, its not hard just to not believe the lies in public school.
Bruh, saying you shouldn't be Christian just because a few minor teachings today contradict older ones is like saying you shouldn't believe in science just because modern science teaches things people didn't used to believe.
If an infinite Lord with infinite power, infinite knowledge, infinite understanding and infinite compassion somehow cannot by our standards exist, how can we?
5:02 I want to add a point on the conquest part.
The reason why the crusades happened was because of the culture which influenced the European countries at that time.
Some of the European nations, particularly the Anglo Saxons, based their societies on pride and honour. So when the gospel was preached to them, they could not understand the basis of the message so they twisted it to suit their beliefs.
Since they thought that it was shameful for Jerusalem to be captured by the Muslims, they thought it was honourable for them to recapture in the name of the Lord. When in actuality, it was based on their pride.
So that’s why the subsequent crusades weren’t as successful compared to the first one, as they are not moving in the will of God
I went to catholic schools throughout my life, and it just made me despise christianity even though it has taken me YEARS to deal with my traumas I'm finally starting to return to the faith not as a catholic though(YET)
no harm, we Catholics have a meme that Catholic Schools makes more atheists than Catholics
don't be a Catholic. Be Presbyterian :)
@@redeemedzoomer6053I'm leaning very Anglican ngl
my father is even on my Local Anglican church council.
@@PabloVelasco-hr3koWell that's exactly what happened to me
W Issac newton 2:29. Always knew he was the brightest mind.
Is there a place where I can find your sources for this information?
His ass lmao
I asked him that a few months ago, but he did not respond.
It is not a Wikipedia article or scientific paper just a TH-cam video. Do your own research.
@@Ordo1980 God forbid someone is called out for the information they spread online
@MarkStein-b5b He claims that the Big Bad secular kings were the ones who caused crusades and forceful spread of christianity, while such a concept (secular ruler) didn't exist for at least several centuries after middle ages. Medieval rulers, their conquests and crusades were all connected to christianity and the church.
It'd be great to see a discussion between RZ and Jason Lisle
Christianity lays the foundation of much of beauty and art we see today ❤
W NEWTON, ATHEISM IS SENSELESS
Yes, atheism is senseless. However you who believes in the Flying Spaghetti Monster are sound of mind
@@outmywritemind1739
I don't just blindly believe Christianity. I have tried Islam, and Judaism. I have a good substantial knowledge of church history and i can easily explain all essentials of the Christian faith. I understand apologetics: the nine extrabiblical sources for Jesus that still coincide with the bible and how the bible is 99.5 identical to the original manuscript.
The world is not eternal, there's a creator and that's God. You who doesn't believe has not been predestined by God to believe and will be damned by your sinful nature.
Yes i also believe in Calvinism, God's absolute sovereignty. Trust me, i myself cannot have the faith but it was God who changed the disposition of my heart to believe in him. May I preserve in the faith he has given and the Good Lord who starts his work in me shall finish it, Amen.
I don't just blindly believe Christianity. I have tried Islam, and Judaism. I have a good substantial knowledge of church history and i can easily explain all essentials of the Christian faith. I understand apologetics: the nine extrabiblical sources for Jesus that still coincide with the bible and how the bible is 99.5 identical to the original manuscript.
I also believe in Calvinism- God's ABSOLUTE sovereignty that means that if you don't believe in God it's because he hasn't called you to his from outside time while in time it seems you have rejected him but it is an uno reverso card
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Luckily I never got these taught in public school. I guess British schools are superior
I went to public school in Missouri, and I can’t say we were taught any of those things. Maybe it’s different on the East Coast. Heck, my biology teacher even told us that she was a Christian before teaching us evolution. From what I remember, the only time I noticed a negative slant to Christianity is when we were taught about the Crusades and the Spanish inquisition.
NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!
Same
I dont rember who said it, but it was something in the line of "Those who decide what kids learn in school are those who will manipulate the next generation and beyond."
He/She was very, very real with that.
I swear private schools teach Catholicism way more better than public school from what I've heard
Maybe because most private schools are Catholic
just as a correction, Isaac Newton wasn´t christian. He believed in God but rejected the trinity
Are you Colombian bro ?
@@damianpaez yea
I'm not saying you need to believe it, but I seriously recommend taking an actual deep research dive into young earth Creationism. It's not some anti-science movement. It's tens of thousands of Christian scientists in multiple scientific organizations applying as direct a scientific process as possible to confirm or deny their theories.
This whole video is about "debunking lies told about Christianity," yet less than 5 minutes in you reinforce one of the biggest lies about a very large number of Christians.
If you've never seen it, Hydroplate theory: th-cam.com/video/4hhE6tzJR_c/w-d-xo.html
that contradicts science in many ways
@@Gr8Imres Can you explain the contradictions to me, or are you just parroting what you've been taught?
@@camerapasteurize7215 half lives, evolution, the entirety of the nebular hypothesis
@@Gr8Imres Mutation issues, genetic decay, irreducible complexity, apparent age, entropy, the entirety of the fossil record?
I'm sorry, I thought we were just randomly throwing out buzz words with no explanation.
Yay new vid.
I remember vividly in about 6th grade I believe. My teacher was teaching about Christianity, and when he got to Jesus he said that during that time period he got hung by a rope and not a cross, because cross crucifixions didn't exist in that time period. As a young Christian I was confused, but accepted it because school is always right, right? Wrong. I held onto that belief for years until I talked to my pastor and looked into it. It's much worse than we think.
11:32 rather than the test paper swap analogy, here's a better suggestion: imagine a poor villager woman who has nothing going on for her. Suddenly a prince decided to marry her. Now she's suddenly rich, because her name is added to everything he has.
Gregor Mendel, the Father of modern genetics was a Catholic Priest.
Robert Boyle, who defined elements, compounds, and mixtures was an Anglican.
Francis Collins, invented positional cloning is an atheist turned Christian.
Now what about all the others, like jews and muslims
newton was an alchemist. Does that mean alchemy is a good thing? Einstein was a deadbeat father. Does that mean being a deadbeat father is a good thing?
@@stewystewymc3929 Christianity is a GOOD THING.
Christianity brought about your universities and has the biggest charity foundations
The way he describes YEC is reminiscent of how atheists describe all Christians. It is a little disheartening.
Well, there’s no real evidence for YEC.
@@nickfoster848 There is a sense in which I think it matters. I've heard this argument before & after years of hearing different arguments and apologists.
I, now personally think young earth creation is most likely the best explanation of things.
I'm inclined to agree that this shouldn't be allowed divide the church but I do think there's a way in which it matters.
It's been my personal experience that sometimes people might disagree with you completely on a belief and say "it doesn't matter that we disagree on this, let's talk about something else". When I co-operate with this, this conflict dies down for that time. But on another unassuming time, the issue sneaks it's way back into the conversation by some backdoor & I'm left wondering whether or not the person who told me to forget about it, actually meant it.
I view the account of original sin as a literal account because it lead to a literal blood sacrifice of God's only Son.
I thought, if you're going to claim "a certain portion of the account of genesis isn't to be interpreted literally, then where exactly do you draw the line?"
If the six 24hr day creation account wasn't literal, what part of the fall was?
If Adam wasn't literally the first man in creation & Eve the first woman, then why does God speak as though they are? How does God punish man for that which He ordained man to become? If man is the result of evolution over eons of time then death always existed as part of the natural order of life. Therefore death couldn't be the punishment for sin & therefore our Lord and Savior's death was as meaningless as the rhythm in which the wind makes the leaves dance. Then our faith is futile & meaningless.
I think there's a reason why skeptics often attack the genesis account, because they know that it is the foundation for all Christian doctrine. Whether they realise it or not, there's a part in them that knows this.
We as Christians shouldn't fight or bicker about this but we also shouldn't condescend these interpretations. Think about it, we're about 2 chapters into the very first account of God & His creation & we open with an allegory. Imagine Moses, when he writes this. What is he supposed think? What was the point of speaking allegorically in the first place, all it did was confuse & cause division. I argue that, unless one believes in evolution, Genesis can only ever be interpreted literally.
I say all of this to say that it's frustrating as it is to be talked down to like an intellectual pariah by skeptics in general for our belief but for our brothers and sisters in Christ to join in on the mockery rather than to hear us to genuinely understand not to argue. That kinda hurts ngl
Don't accept the rhetorical wizardry of the "YEC" label. If the earth is indeed 6-7 millennia old, that is OLD by every standard but the historically undocumented ones posited by naturalist pagans. The Darwin family, Lyell , and most of the others were all Freemasons, gnostics and occultists, all of which oughta mean something to contemporary Christians but alas!
There is a huge emphasis on ALL in all christians.
@@nickfoster848sure there is. Evolution has never been demonstrated in a lab, yet Jesus teaches and quotes Genesis as creation being made in 6 days. If anything there is no "real evidence" for OEC.
1: This is more of a modern phenomenon, nowadays biblical inerrancy contravenes scientific consensus pretty significantly; most famously with Evolutionary Biology.
2: That position is an oversimplification at best, but you calling most of those rulers “secular” is also.
3: Public school taught me that oppressors used Christianity to justify their actions as their opponents did. This is as close as a historical opinion you can get to being fact. Really not sure what you’re on about.
4: Public school never taught me Christianity is like that. What.
5: Again, what? Y’all must have had some weird-ass teachers.
6: Public school does disproportionately focus on the differences, but they have a limited time window to explain the Protestant reformation and its consequences. So I’ll give them a pass. They’re not allowed to teach Theology for Theology’s sake anyway.
7: I was taught Nicaea helped standardize Christian beliefs more so than “change” it.
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😂😂😂😂 you are so full of shit
I have trusted both religion and science, and after seeing this, I can see the connection between science and religion much better.
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uhh... not sure if I would trade places with you tbh.
Well, I wanted to make a joke about instead of having bad public education you have no public education at all, but I looked it up and your public education is pretty good.
Stupid facts getting in the way of a good joke!
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