i pray you read the Christian Bible and study the reformation with focus on the dark ages, inquisitions and other evil atrocities done by this counterfeit 'church'. in short, how about trying Christianity, friend!
@TCZ17090 Im subscribed to Zoomers channel however he's different on his discord server he kinda two faced with his discord server when talking with them
@@alessandrozanzarella9203 he can at times he's not a big fan of Catholics and Orthodox he has had a history and banning them from his discord server and he has had a history of banning people on his discord who he disagrees with he's also been inconsistent when it comes to making discord rules and picking admins I'm a moderator on his discord so I have talked to him a decent amount he's not a bad person but he definitely can be two faced like he says regardless of denominations it's awesome anytime someone gives there life to Christ but when Candance Owens got baptized and became Catholic he complained and said if only she knew about classical protestism then she would not have been Catholic and he did that instead of being happy that she got baptized and joined a church properly
@@stevn744I mean there is a difference in going from Protestantism to Catholicism then going from for example Islam to Catholicism. I think that is what he meant if anyone accepts their life for Christ that he finds it awesome. But the first one, the person already did give their life for Christ but switched to a different denomination. In his eyes the person goes a little further from the truth even if she still gives her life for Christ, which makes him upset.
Did'nt expect such a depth of Catholic knowledge from a MC youtuber that I have never seen before. I've been Catholic my whole life, and the history of the Catholic church is what proves its reliability and truth the most to me. The fact that Jesus instituted the Eucharist and that the early church did the same is evidence enough for the Mass. ¡Viva Cristo Rey! Would love to see more of this!!
Sabbath is saturday not sunday mark 7:6-9 God does not like christmas (Jeremiah 10) And people who eat pig meat (Isaiah 66) Plus wearing cross necklace or mary statues (no carved statues 2nd command)
Christianity and Catholicism are inseparable as Catholicism/Orthodoxy were the original Christianity. However, I would be hesitant to call it a denomination as there was no such thing as “denominations” until protestantism and their own internal divisions.
there was denominations or divisions during the time of the apostles and it was condemned directly by paul 1st corinthians 3:3-4 “for you are still carnal. for where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men. for when one says “i am of paul” and another “i am of apollos” are you not carnal ?”
That’s what convinced me. That Catholics took the Faith *seriously.* A lot of traditions start and end with the sway of the times but Catholicism has been protected by the Holy Spirit for over 2000 years.
Breaking saturday sabbath is sin(Isaiah 66:23-24) And eating pork, lobster shrimp(Isaiah 66:16-17) And doing christmas easter(Deuteronomy 12:30) and praying to statues rosary, cross idols(exodus 20:4)
@@matthew953the Isaiah verses are the old law, which is null after Jesus I don't see what Deuteronomy 12:30 has to do with Christmas or Easter We aren't praying to idols, we are asking Mary to pray on our behalf to God, same with all the other saints
God doesn't care if you complete a class or a group of Christians tell you that now you can become a Christian. If a Church isn't going to let people in until they complete a class, they are not a true church. Why deny people from Christ if they are seeking Christ?
@@connorallgood0922 No one is denying him anything. It's preparation for a sacrament. We give sacraments to babies. But sometimes, it's better to take some time to prepare for it.
@@connorallgood0922 what? The Church doesn't deny people. RCIA just exists so you can be educated about what Catholics believe and what you're to believe if you become a Catholic. You can attend Mass if you haven't completed the class. I suggest you read about the early Church, though. Between 100 and 300 AD, people who weren't Christian would leave before the Eucharist to study the Word and the faith. That's what RCIA is. You study the Word and the faith so you know.
I’m Catholic too and I had a similar thing happen to me. I have been Catholic my whole life and my favorite person in my family is Catholic, my Grandma. I didn’t really understood what we/I believed until Covid hit and until I started really understanding my faith. I almost lost it a few years back but praise God I didn’t! I love it so much and it has influenced my life to this day. Praise God! Love from an American Catholic 🩷🇺🇸✝️
I'm a protestant but I have to say I find you encouraging. The fact that you're out here preaching the gospel is awesome, even though we disagree on a lot of things. And also, you're so soft spoken and kind when talking through these things, I think you're setting a great example for other Christians. I hope you'll see this, but if not then I guess I'll just tell you this all in heaven lol 😁
1 John 2:3-4 if you don't keep God's commandments you don't know Messiah. Keep sabbath on saturday not sunday Isaiah 66 repent from pork and from christmas idolatry Deuteronomy 12:30
@matthew953 Those are all Jewish laws that we as Gentiles don't fall under, and besides Jesus freed us from the law. Now we are saved through faith and not following rules. That doesn't mean we can sin but it means rules aren't what set us free
I am on the same process of discovering things that were somehow wrongly explained to me in years being a protestant. It's sometimes hard to let go the previous faith and adopt a new one. However I have been experiencing so many blessings through the daily rosary. Happy to be back to Church after decades. Greetings from Rio de Janeiro/Brazil.
I had the same experience, prayed for clarity and got it. I was born Catholic, but as I started studying my faith, I started to feel that this is not indeed truth. I was in doubt to become Muslim, I was athiest for some time, non-denominational (Protestant in disguise), orthodox. I started talking to some guy on discord, he is catholic, and for some reason I refused to believe some teachings. For example that Mary is sinless or that Pope has right to lead the entier church. Now, that God oppened my eyes, i see that i was heretical 100%. God is good! btw, keep your work up, i really enjoy your videos and hope you continue making them. God bless you!
Well, the Pope isn't perfect. Yes, with his position he CAN come to infallible conclusions, but the pope himself isn't infallible. You need to remember, the pope is a human, humans are not perfect, only God is perfect. To say that the pope is perfect would be to say Pope Leo X was perfect, despite the fact he was a p3d0phile and nearly bankrupted the church
No bro. We are not in communion with the Roman Catholics. They have satanic heresies in their doctrine. Christ cannot be corrupted or divided! They are anathema!
@ no thanks, I have no plans to become catholic, but I do have heavy respect for your faith tradition since we both agree with the basic teachings of Christianity. And I’m sorry that my faith tradition doesn’t perfectly align with your beliefs. Jesus prayed we would all be one, ignoring all other Christians and writing them off as false teachings is not the way to achieve that.
@@johnyang1420 we both agree on the essentials of Christianity, therefore we are both Christian. Just because you belong to a denomination that has tons of tradition (and I do appreciate tradition), that doesn’t make your denomination better than any other Bible believing Christian organization.
@Chill_Calvinist_guy You don't have to agree to become Catholic to attend RCIA or Mystagogia. It's dual purpose for ones who want to convert or ones who just want to know more. I will say I'd go to a parish that still does the Latin Mass for RCIA, you're more likely to get better catechesis that way.
I am currently suffering from the same confusion of denominations , but this video has helped me alot to strengthen my faith in the Catholic church of Jesus. Thanks brother ❤
Nice church exterior. I love building crazy detailed builds on survival lol. Good for you also ! I was raised Protestant now planning on doing RCIA and being confirmed after that!
I'm a Presbyterian, and I respect Catholicism very much. But you should know that not all Protestants are Baptists, and that Presbyterians, Lutherans, and Anglicans all believe that baptism saves and that we truly feast on the body and blood of Christ during communion. As a Presbyterian, we also believe that faith without works is dead and that our faith is justified by our works. However, we believe that we only do these works BECAUSE we have faith. Works aren't what save us, it's our faith that save us, and that faith gives us works. Works are just proof of our faith. Another thing, Eastern Orthodox Christians also claim Jesus founded their church. Why are Catholics the church of Christ and not them? In reality, all churches have pastors that could trace their lineage back the Apostles. Martin Luther was a priest after all, so he carried that succession with him. Anyways, I enjoyed your video and pray for your success with this channel!
Hi, I'm obviously not the video creator, but I thought I'd answer some of these questions about ecclesiology and try to have a conversation, especially since you seem so genuine and kind in your message. First, I want to establish something about marriage because it will serve as an analogy for the subsequent paragraphs. Let's say that you have a wedding and say your wedding vows, but when you get up there to say your vows, there is nothing about a lifelong union that lasts until death, nothing about the procreation and rearing of children, and nothing about the duties of marriage, such as fidelity, loyalty, sexual exclusivity, etc. Instead, the 'vows' consist of a series of quippy jokes meant to entertain your guests. Perhaps you are getting married because you want a party and you don't even really understand what marriage is. If you don't understand what marriage is, how can you enter into a lifelong commitment? Can you agree to something that you didn't understand or explicitly agree to? Were you truly even married? For the Catholic Church, the case against the Reformation-era confessional Churches (such as Presbyterianism, Anglicanism, and Lutheranism) that had previously ordained clergy is something akin to this. We maintain that even though you all initially had valid orders, you lost these orders due to an insufficient understanding and intention to pass them on. The reason that the Catholic Church denies apostolic succession to the Presbyterians is precisely because you all deny the episcopacy. You all collapse the distinction between presbyters and bishops into them all being priests/elders. Since Catholic theology teaches that only bishops can ordain new men to the priesthood, you all not acknowledging the reality of episcopate becomes a major problem for the validity of your apostolic succession. The reason that the Catholic Church denies apostolic succession to the Anglicans and Lutherans is similar. While they maintain the episcopacy, they do not recognize the sacrificial nature of the mass and therefore the priesthood. We Catholics recognize that the priest acts in the person of Christ during the mass and during confession, and the lack of intention to keep this as an essential part of the priesthood would be like possessing the lack of intention to have a lifelong union when getting married. Add onto this, when you introduce women to your holy orders, this messes with the ordination rites even more: women cannot be ordained to holy orders, so any attempt is invalid by its very nature. As for the Eastern Orthodox, the Catholic Church actually maintains that they continue to have valid holy orders to this very day. They have bishops, priests, and real Eucharists. The Catholic Church maintains that they, along with other schismatic groups like the Oriental Orthodox or the sedevacantists, are particular churches with apostolic succession but separated from THE Church of Christ that Jesus founded. The marker of truth and unity in the Catholic framework is the Papacy; bishops in communion with the Bishop of Rome are assured of their orthodoxy and united to the Church of Christ.
@@trying-to-learn on the issue of succession, that's conjecture. Apostolicae Curae (which denied Anglican orders) did not apply to Lutherans, nor to the idea of whether episcopal succession was passed on (in irregular form) but to sacrificial intention alone. As such, the problem with that promulgation is that it raises the bar so high that by its own standards, it unintentionally condemns every Eucharistic/Ordination rite East and West, ancient and modern (including the rites of Paul VI) -- except for the Tridentine rite. The idea of the Eucharistic sacrifice and sacrificial priesthood was much more nebulous in the early church; ecumenical research and liturgical studies has complicated the matter even at the official level. As for the papacy, that's the contended issue by everyone except for the Roman catholics, and as such the bare assertion that communion with the Pope is necessary for the being of the church's catholicity is highly spurious as you are assuming what you need to prove.
@@poordoubloon10 I'm a Catholic and was engaging in a friendly conversation where I was explaining the Catholic position on ecclesiology. Sharing a unique doctrine of the CC doesn't make it spurious. It's a unique, defining doctrine. That's all : )
I can recommend listening to friar Mike on the bible in a year podcast (it is as implied, he reads a part of the bible each day pf the year), he gives a lot of catholic insight on the bible, our traditions, etc.
As a Lutheran, I agree 100%. Baptism saves us. We must be fed by the true Body and Blood of Christ. And we must show forth our salvation, received by grace alone, through our good works, which by themselves don't save us (this we might have a bit of disagreement). Unfortunately, all you mentioned in the video is the fruit of popular evangelicalism. Lutherans never intended to break away from the teachings of the Church. Now, if I may ask you, how would you describe other strong Catholic beliefs? For example: immaculate conception of Mary, purgatory, treasury of merit, invocation of the saints, etc? I don't think there's much biblical, or even patristic support for those. Now, I might be wrong, that's why I would love to hear your opinion on those, if possible. I don't know if my comment sounded how I intended, but I truly liked your video! Wish you the very best your journey in the faith. God bless, brother!
Non-denominational Evangelical here! I appreciate the Catholic Church greatly for it's history, architecture and (for the parts that haven't been infected by liberalism like has happened in every mainline denomination in this day and age) the adherence to tradition has immense value so thank you very much for maintaining that. My disagreements come from practice and history not really theology. All institutions of man, including Churches, have the potential for corruption (Jesus warned against this in Matthew 7:15) and smaller Churches naturally have an easier time rooting out the wolves in sheep's clothing if and when they do appear, whereas I see via people like Redeemed Zoomer show, the larger churches are having a really difficult time getting rid of the modern-day heretics that twist or outright disregard the gospel to their own ends. "For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them." - Matthew 18:20, I think today smaller congregations that can build a real personal connection with people in an age where true community has all but died out in the name of tolerance and secularism, in a way that a large institution based on the opposite side of the world cannot. It's also worth remembering that prior to the reformation the Bible was only in Latin ad the original manuscripts so the average person couldn't read it, then Martin Luther translated it to German and Henry the 8th had it translated into English so now everybody could read the scripture. As long as you're keeping the Gospel and the recorded tradition above whatever current Church leadership says, y'all are a boon to the faith. God bless you, brother.
In addition to the works debate. Were not saved by our works were saved too good works. Works a part of an evident faith and they come with the journey in Christ. Amen.
The truth is this: we do not do good works to prove that we are saved, we do good works because we have ALREADY BEEN SAVED the moment we believe in Jesus!
I love and respect all Christians and I would never call Catholics non-christians. However, Catholics claim that Catholicism is the literal Kingdom of God on earth, but "The coming of the kingdom of God cannot be observed, and no one will announce, 'Look, here it is,' or, 'There it is,' for behold, the kingdom of God is within you." -Luke 17:20-21. Jesus is teaching the Pharisees in this verse that the Kingdom of God is not something that you can see. Jesus is teaching that it is not us within the Kingdom, it's the Kingdom that is within us. I trust and acknowledge the tradition and truths within Catholicism, but surely the full truth of the Gospel comes from and through Jesus alone, not from or through the church. For there is "one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." -1 Timothy 2:5.
Your connection with Jesus Christ is the most important part of your faith. The denomination of your Christianity doesn't matter nearly as much as your relationship with god. Do not get caught up with the little differences between Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, ect. Those who believe in Jesus Christ are one of the same family.
@TCZ17090 As it says in Galatians 1:8, if the Catholic church were to teach something contrary to the Gospel then let them be ANATHEMA. And that is exactly what has happened and continues to happen. To this day, even now the Pope has said that Jesus is not the only way to get to Heaven.
I was in the same boat, I listened to the lies and misconceptions of the Catholic church until I did the research. Reading the early church fathers, church history, the CCC all in unity with the complete bible, not the incomplete bible that Protestants use. Never have I been so close to Christ, I thank God and for my brothers and sisters in heaven that prayed for me.
CYPRIAN OF CARTHAGE “The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever things you bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth, they shall be loosed also in heaven’ [Matt. 16:18-19]). … On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were also what Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
According to the Bible, (Matthew 16:18-19, John 21:17) which is compiled by the Catholic church. Fun fact as a little side note, Catholic comes from the Greek word, “katholikos” which means “universal.” Please study scripture extensively with an open mind and relate it to the structure of the church as we see it today.
Filipino Catholic playing TLauncher (your cracked free Minecraft). Everytime I’m in a creative world, I build a cathedral for villagers and make it a Catholic town. Pray that I may build one in my survival world. 🙏🙏🙏
Im Orthodox and I find Catholicism nice and the traditions, the beautiful churches and it helping the poor the people in need. May God bless you and all of you Amen. ❤☦️🤝✝️❤️
Galatians 1:8 says "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!" The Protestant Reformation had to happen because the Catholic church no longer taught the truth of the Gospel.
@@OVOFloyd The Church is not a building or an institution, but a group of believers, wherever they may gather. That verse is talking moreso about the fact that Satan may persecute the Church and kill those who share the Gospel, but that will only make the Gospel spread more. But the buildings themselves may not continue because they can become corrupted by bad teachings and wolves in sheep's clothing. The 7 Churches of Asia in the Book of Revelation were each warned not to stray from the faith or God would take away His blessing from them. And the sad thing is that none of those churches exist today. Because that's the thing - the original Church that established these churches eventually passed away and was replaced by a completely new generation who themselves had the choice to accept or reject the Gospel and continue teaching what they had learned from the previous generation. If they don't continue then that's not God's fault for failing to protect them but theirs for accepting sin into the community of believers.
Would love a video on the geopolitics of the papacy. I think the platonic version of the papacy pushed by Catholic apologists is appealing. But the reality of the Vatican seems to be a modernist everchanging position used by the global elite to push homosexuality or other agendas such as communism. It’s fun to debate Thomism and high level apologetics but at the end of the day that’s not what the papacy is anymore, it hasn’t been since the early 1900s. The Papacy has basically reneged on all of their teachings from Vatican I at this point.
I was always told that marry was way more significant in catholic church and people would even pray to her which I found weird, I just believe the bible and follow what it says the best I can and try to build a relationship with Jesus, so I don't consider myself under any denominations or anything
Too add on to that, just remember to not think that Baptism is what saves you, that is the gift of salvation that God has gracefully provided, yes faith without works is nothing, but Jesus did say he will deny those who he did not know, (Matthew 7:21-23) those who did works and failed to uphold their genuine love and faith for God. It shouldn’t be religion, it should be relation with God. God bless ❤
It’s a old bad habit that Catholics say I’m Catholic and leave the Christian part off plus years of bad Catholic religious education, it is getting better
@@cizzorzsonandy9773 the church = gathering of Christians. A church can be described as being in a house, or building. This is the definition according to scripture. I recommend you stop following the Catholic institution which, before now, used to tell people that giving them money would reduce their time in purgatory.
Yeah, I went pretty much the same path 😆, instead of making a Christian Minecraft Server I put the Christian Bible into Minecraft. Maybe we could work together on something some time? I think we'd make for a good team!
As a Catholic who has Protestant family members and has lived in an Islamic country i could not agree more, I grew up seeing Protestant churches as well as Catholic and the difference between how they handled the Bible and the church was astonishing. The Catholic faith is the full truth, and while others have some truths but a half truth is not the truth. What ultimately drove my faith in Catholicism was the history, the way the Catholic Church shows that it is the church of god, and truthfully how the Protestant church conducts itself and its beliefs. The biggest problem with the Protestant faith in my opinion is that to fallow the beliefs of the Protestant faith is to deny the word of god “And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.” Jesus Christ. Matthew 16:18 And to believe in the Protestant faith was to believe that gods church was corrupted that is what Calvin and Martin Luther believed so i cannot place my trust in a institution that was built as a rebellion against gods church.
Saying that Protestants have denied God because they do not want to go to a church that itself denies the teachings of Jesus is completely illogical. The Church of God is not a building, it is the people themselves that believe in Jesus and follow after Him. If a group of people who meet up in a building and claim to be Christian taught something contrary to the Gospel, let that group of people be anathema as Paul says in the Bible (Galatians 1:8). Even Jesus in the Book of Revelation says that He will take away His blessing from any church that no longer follows after Him. "To the church of Laodaceia ... I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth." This is a warning from God that if you stray from Him then your church will no longer belong to Him.
@@potapotapotapotapotapota name one thing that the Catholic Church teaches that goes against the teachings of Jesus I know Protestants create a lot of myths about the church so please name 1 actual thing that the Catholic Church teaches that is not the word of Jesus. Also that was Paul talking about Galatian Christians meanwhile Matthew 16:18 is directly from Jesus and I think that quote fits Protestants more then the other churches like Catholicism or Orthodoxy did you know many Protestants tried to join the Orthodox after the schism but where rejected and denounced as heretics that in my opinion speaks volumes, in fact most Protestant churches come from two groups and then broke off from them the first being Martin Luther which I can only refer to the above post the second being the Anglican Church which was founded over a man’s desire for power and lust, so personally I trust the Catholic or Orthodox Church much more than the Protestants.
@@bigjoem9808 I could name more than one thing. But I think the biggest teaching in Catholicism that goes against Jesus' teachings is that you have to obey the traditions of Catholicism in addition to your faith to be saved. Matthew 16:18 does not convince me that the true Church has continued through the Catholic tradition per se, it just means that the Church itself will continue through randomly chosen, backwater people and that God has used them to do great things. Most importantly, God used them to record His Word, in the historical Gospel accounts and in the letters to the churches. But if anyone leading the Church, even if they were chosen by God, were to teach something contrary to the Gospel, then I would no longer consider them to be apart of that promise in Matthew 16:18. You can claim that modern Catholicism is a continuation of the original church all you want, but it makes no difference if what they teach contradicts the Bible. Like if the Catholic church or the Pope were to suddenly teach that you could only get to Heaven by facing East and saying a hundred arbitrary gibberish incantations every single day then I would consider that church to be teaching heresy. If you were to just blindly obey such a teaching then I would question if you are even capable of critical thought. For Jesus said "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword." Matthew 10:34-36 shows us that divisions in the Church are to be expected,. The truth is that lies will always be taught and people will believe whatever they want to believe, based on their motivations. But if you are just going to blindly obey what you have been taught without wrestling with it then you could end up believing something that contradicts the Gospel and no longer be saved. The whole book of Hebrews is dedicated to this - there were Jews in the Church that were teaching people that they needed to follow the Jewish Laws and traditions in addition to their faith to be saved, and the writer told the Church not to believe them one bit. The simple fact is that we need nothing except faith in God to be saved. We do not do good works to prove we are saved, we do good works out of appreciation towards God for the fact that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAVED!! The thief on the cross didn't have to lift a finger to get to Heaven. He was already on His was to Hell, but He heard the words of Jesus and believed, and Jesus told him that was all that was necessary to be saved. No church attendance, no prayers, no worship music--NOTHING!! That's what makes the Gospel so life changing - it reveals to us the nature of God, that He loves us unconditionally and we don't have to perform for Him or earn His love. God teaches us what Love truly is. And when we realize that, we become capable of that kind of love and are able to put to death our sinful nature and live with Him forever in Heaven.
@@potapotapotapotapotapota you really do not know what you’re talking about and it’s quite evident. Because the traditions that you’re talking about are not randomly invented, nor is, it believed in the Catholic Church that traditions will save you, you literally pull that out your ass, but rather the traditions you were talking about is following God and very specifically following Jesus and his teachings, I’ll give you a prime example of this in Baptist churches they refuse to serve wine in the Eucharist instead using grape juice. So again, I ask, give me an example and not one that is randomly pulled out of your ass by a random protestant site that has nothing to do with reality because he was the truth. The Catholic Church believes that Jesus is God and God is the only one that can save you , it also believes that you Must be in God‘s grace and your actions you will be saved. In other words, you cannot be just a rapist live your life raping pillaging and then act like you’re going to be saved
Just as a point of understanding, Martin Luther didn't want to start his own church nor did he want to break away from the Catholics, he could have joined with the Eastern Orthodox church but he did not agree with them on theological grounds. There is a lot to the whole ordeal and I would encourage you to look into it more, to give you a better understanding of why things played out the way they did. Good video over all.
Forgive me if I'm misrepresenting the Catholic view, but what it seems they believe is "If you have faith, but don't do anything to respond to it, you aren't saved." This is directly contradictary to the Bible. Read Romans 4:5 If you believe in Christ's sacrifice then get baptized to be saved, then God wouldn't be saving you out of His grace, but because He would owe you. Please repent and trust in Christ's sacrifice alone to cover your sins.
Hey @monkeyman3485 , God (who is grace) gave us created grace which is a gift to give us the ability to even get to know God (this created grace is what saves us). This created grace breaks down into multiple categories and one of those is Faith. Faith breaks down into two subsets Belief and Works. You need to have both the belief in God and doing the works of God to have true faith in Him. Anyone can have that initial belief in God and truly believe in their heart that Jesus is God and is the only way to heaven) but if we don’t do the good deeds God asked of us do we truly have faith in him? Satan BELIEVES in God but doesn’t do his good WORKS of him, which means he doesn’t have faith in God. If I truly believe in someone wouldn’t I want to do what they asked me to do? In the end we aren’t saved by just works or just belief we need the created grace God gave us and to fully use that gift we need faith which is both belief (I believe in God) and Works (God tells me to be Christ like so I will act in such a way). Matthew 25:35-46 Truly I say to you as you did it to one of the least of these brethren you did it to me. (You should read the rest of Matthew 25:35-46 if you want a better idea, I just put a snapshot of what it’s saying) Luke 7:46-49 Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord’ and not do what I tell you? (more specific Luke 7:46). James 2:17-26 explains the following: So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead (James, 17). You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith (James, 24). Romans 2:6-7 “For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by practice in well-doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, he will give eternal life.” Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.” I hope this brief explanation helped but a good resource if you want to understand further is to look up Catholic answers the TH-cam channel and find when they talk about faith and works. There’s a good chance I made an error somewhere in my explanation so ya Catholic Answers will have a good explanation. :)
@@Ice-yf4ioHere are some points I would like to clarify 1. Purgatory comes from scriptures without divine influence and was removed from the Catholic canon. clarification: Biblical Basis for Purgatory: Although the word purgatory does not appear explicitly in the Bible, the concept is biblically defensible. For example, in 2 Maccabees 12:46, prayer for the dead is mentioned, implying a post-mortem purification. Although Protestants exclude this book, it was part of the canon used by early Christians and remains part of the Septuagint, a collection of scriptures accepted by the early Church. In the New Testament, 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 mentions purification through fire after death, which alludes to a purification process. Matthew 5:25-26 and Matthew 12:32 suggest the existence of a temporary state of purification, as they mention possible forgiveness "in the age to come." Canon and Tradition: The Council of Carthage (397 AD) and later the Council of Trent (1546) reaffirmed the canon which includes the deuterocanonical books, such as 2 Maccabees, which support this doctrine. The concept of purgatory does not contradict Christ's redemption, but rather applies his purifying merit to souls who are not yet fully sanctified. 2. Sola Scriptura is the correct standard since tradition is not reliable. clarification: The Bible does not teach Sola Scriptura: The principle of Sola Scriptura is contradictory since it does not appear explicitly in the Bible. The Bible itself mentions the importance of oral tradition. Examples include 2 Thessalonians 2:15: "Stand firm and hold fast the traditions which we have taught you, whether by word of mouth or by letter." 1 Timothy 3:15 refers to the Church as the “pillar and ground of the truth,” implying an authority outside of Scripture. The Early Church and Tradition: Church Fathers such as St. Irenaeus and St. Ignatius of Antioch argued for the transmission of faith through apostolic tradition. The compilation of the biblical canon was a result of the authority of the Church, guided by tradition, as the Bible did not exist in its final form until the 4th century. Problems with Sola Scriptura: Private interpretation of Scripture under Sola Scriptura has led to doctrinal fragmentation among Protestant denominations. This is in contrast to the Catholic teaching of interpretation under the authority of the Magisterium. 3. Sola Fide arose as a corrective to the Catholic teaching of salvation by works. clarification: Misunderstanding of Catholic Doctrine: The Catholic Church has never taught that works alone can save. The Council of Trent (1547) clarified that justification is by God's grace, received through faith, but that this faith must be manifested in works as evidence of that genuine faith (James 2:24: "A man is justified by works and not by faith alone."). Faith and Works in Scripture: The same St. Paul, who emphasizes faith, also clarifies that faith without love (manifested in works) is useless (Galatians 5:6: "Faith working through love."). Ephesians 2:8-10 mentions salvation by grace, but adds that we are "created in Christ Jesus for good works," which indicates the need for the believer's cooperation with grace. Martin Luther and Doctrine: Luther modified the translation of Romans 3:28 by adding the word "alone" (sola fide), which altered the original meaning of the text. His rejection of the Epistle of James, calling it a straw epistle, shows doctrinal bias rather than rigorous biblical analysis. Overall Conclusion: Purgatory, the necessity of Tradition, and the relationship between Faith and Works are solidly based on Scripture and apostolic tradition. The Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide proves to be incomplete and, in some cases, contradicts clear biblical passages. The Catholic Church, in interpreting Scripture with the guidance of the Magisterium and Tradition, follows the apostolic teaching that is most consistent with the original texts and the practice of the early Church. blessings.
If a church institution changes then it is no longer the common denominator, but has itself become something else entirely. The true Church of Jesus Christ lives on, not through the genealogies and traditions of men, but through the Holy Spirit which gives us all the desire to worship God wherever we may be.
@@tarzanbonanno I would beg to differ. The Catholic church has introduced a lot of extra-biblical teachings and practices since the time of Jesus. Such as creeds, indulgences and sacraments, the invention of purgatory, a declaration of papal infallibility, the assumption of Mary and her immaculate conception, the veneration of saints and relics, support of the LGBT agenda and globalisation. And most importantly, many popes have made many claims that you can get to Heaven without explicit faith in Jesus.
@@potapotapotapotapotapota this only tells me you dont actually know Catholicism or church history and only what the media tells you. and if you cant profess the creeds I dont see you as a Christian and cannot/will not argue with you
Catholic Christianity and Orthodox Christianity can be viewed as “pre-denominational” and the Latin Church and Eastern Churches (in and out of communion with Rome) are to be seen as the only proper churches with valid sacraments / apostolic succession. This is what separates ancient apostolic Christianity from Protestant Christianity with its many denominations and revivalists/restorationists movements. Even the most high-church and historic churches of Protestantism are lacking severely because they have no sacraments and no valid apostolic succession.
@@mrjohnson1627 I’m just giving the official line from the Catholic Church. Catholics/Orthodox don’t recognize Anglicanism as a whole as having a legit priesthood. At least, not automatically or across the board. This is different from how we Catholics see the Eastern Churches.
Except all the historic, mainline Protestant denominations like Lutheranism, Presbyterianism or Anglicanism sprung out of Catholic church by already ordaned priests. Martin Luther was an ordaned Catholic priest and a doctor of theology and while Calvin wasn't a priest other reformers and reformed pastors were ordaned priests. Mainline Reformation was never supposed to create new denominations, it was to reform the Catholic Church and purge it of many evils that plagued it back then. It was the Radical Reformation with movements like Anabaptists and Mennonites that saught to start over from scratch, not mainline protestants. And even if we disregard that then the evidence for apostolic succession being a requirement is tenuous at best. Mark 9:38-41:" “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.” “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us. Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward."
What makes a Church is not apostolic succession. We do not base our religion on unquantifiable things like that, we base it on faith in Jesus alone. For Jesus calls us all to believe in Him personally, and as the Scriptures say "where 2 or 3 are gathered, there I am with them."
3:20 I'm glad you mention 1 Peter 3:21 because this verse proves baptism with water is symbolic. It literally states that "this water SYMBOLIZES BAPTISM", and since baptism in the Spirit is what saves us, baptism by water will never save us. Baptism by water is symbolism for our baptism in Spirit. Baptism in Spirit does save you, not of water.
In this context it says that water which symbolizes baptism is water in Noah day. Baptism can have different meaning in scripture because baptism just means immersion. For example Jesus said in Luke 12 "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!". He's not talking about water baptism but actually about being immersed in hell and taking our punishment. We are saved because he took our sins on his body. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thy shall be saved :)).
You’re very wrong in this. And to believe that it is a symbol is a matter of salvific issue. I recommend you go read the old testament and truly see how our Lord has been using water to cleanse since before the incarnation of our Christ.
@@connorallgood0922 Crispus was the one Paul baptized and made leader of the church of Corinth. He was a Jewish leader that was baptized by Paul and Gaius was also baptized by Paul and made to be a host of the church of Corinth. You see here the discussion of Baptism and the quarrels that it created in the early church. And if you were to understand and accept apostolic succession you would understand that Paul was an apostle not just a disciple of Christ. Saint Soterios succeeded Saint Paul and was the bishop of Corinth. Why is this important? Because you asked me if I believe the church should be divided and the answer is no. The Catholic Church remains united and has been for 2,000+ years now. It is the Protestants, LDS’s, the 7th day Adventist, the Jehovah Witnesses that are separated from the Holy See. 🇻🇦. We apostolic Christians are still following all of Christ’s teaching, traditions, and leadership. We submit and continue to believe and wait for Christs return. Jesus is only coming for one bride and that is the Catholic Church and the saints of His church. Let he who hears hear. May God bless you. 🙏🇻🇦🕊️✝️
What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that *worketh not*, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: *Not of works*, lest any man should boast.
John 10:9 "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture." Did Jesus in that passage changed into a door? Luke 22:19 "And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me." Did Jesus changed this bread to be his body? John 6:48 "I am that bread of life." Was this verse preached in the context of last supper? Here's the whole context from verse 48 to verse 52: "I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?" This is not in the context of the last supper. You don't wanna eat manna and be dead. What did Jesus gave for us on the cross? His flesh! What did Jesus shed on the cross? His blood! Believe, trust on the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE and thy shall be saved!
Hi there! I'm a Baptist Protestant who attends a Roman Catholic school. Just to let any doubters know, Roman Catholics are Christians! all Christians, wether Baptist, Roman Catholic, Or Orthodox Catholic are united in Faith in Jesus, and Faith in Jesus saves us, not denominations.
The only other Church, that is as close to the original faith as Catholic Church, is the Orthodox Church. But they have fallen into heresy in 15th century, when they denounced filioque - which was accepted by the whole church in 8th century. When the Schism happened, there was no disagreement with filioque. There was no filioque controversy in 1054.
There were issues before that with whole branches already being in heresy. That was just the straw that broke the camels back. It was more an excuse to break than it was an actual issue.
I come from a non-traditional church background. I would not identify myself as Protestant or Catholic, but I am definitely more Protestant. I am definitely glad I've seen this, even though I do not agree with you on it. I do not believe what denomination you are in matters though, since we all believe that ultimately we ourselves will never be good enough to be saved, and therefore it is through the mercy and grace of God and Jesus that we will be granted eternal life. What you said about Jesus founding the Catholic Church is a half-truth. He didn't just found the Catholic church, he founded the ENTIRE church. And baptism definitely does not save you. Only faith does - John 3:16 (The most famous bible verse) - "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, so that anyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life." No where in or near that does it say anything about baptism being needed to be saved. Yes Jesus baptised people, yes he told us to "Go make disciples of the nations and baptise them," but in no way does that mean that baptism is necessary for our salvation. Again, this is my opinion, coming from a non-traditional background, and I find your opinion perfectly valid, but I would like to know more about your opinion, and if anyone else has anything to add or debate with me about, please, respond with it. Thank you.
You: And baptism definitely does not save you. Me: 1 Peter 3:21: Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but vas an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, You: Only faith does - John 3:16 Me: You really need the whole bible and not just select verses. According to John 3:36 the opposite of faith is disobedience. Therefore faith includes obeying. Faith itself is an act so works can never put aside.
@@bridgefin @bridgefin ("You need the whole bible and not just select verses"... proceeds to quote select verses... slightly hypocritical but whatever) Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Yes there are verse in the Bible that support baptism saving, like 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism, which corresponds to this now saves you - not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience." But my question to you is this, why would one symbolic act prevent you from turning away from God and sinning in the future? How does baptism save you if you then go and throw it all away? Would an unconditionally loving God put someone into Hell who hadn't been baptised since they were too young, didn't know enough, or had never heard about baptism? Salvation is a gift of grace, correct? Then what difference does it make if you get baptised? Ultimately if human beings can never save themselves, then how can them getting baptised save them? And in Luke 23:43, one of the criminals who was being crucified alongside Jesus repented and got saved, all without baptism. In Luke 23:43 Jesus himself says "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise." This shows that ultimately baptism is not what saves you, it is your heart being set on Jesus Christ, for he gave his perfect, literally priceless (Not priceless as in paintings, priceless as in we could not comprehend such a large number) life, for us wretched sinners. So I ask you, is baptism what really saves you, or is it just an act of obendience, publicly declaring your faith in Christ? (I'm also going to say this even though its not a reliable source, Copilot AI even states that "The Bible supports the view that baptism is not necessary for salvation," citing its source as a website called openbible.info)
@@bridgefin @bridgefin ("You need the whole bible and not just select verses"... proceeds to quote select verses... slightly hypocritical but whatever) Ep 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Yes there are verse in the Bible that support baptism saving, like 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism, which corresponds to this now saves you - not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience." But my question to you is this, why would one symbolic act prevent you from turning away from God and sinning in the future? How does baptism save you if you then go and throw it all away? Would an unconditionally loving God put someone into Hell who hadn't been baptised since they were too young, didn't know enough, or had never heard about baptism? Salvation is a gift of grace, correct? Then what difference does it make if you get baptised? Ultimately if human beings can never save themselves, then how can them getting baptised save them? And in Luke 23:43, one of the criminals who was being crucified alongside Jesus repented and got saved, all without baptism. In Luke 23:43 Jesus himself says "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise." This shows that ultimately baptism is not what saves you, it is your heart being set on Jesus Christ, for he gave his perfect, literally priceless (Not priceless as in paintings, priceless as in we could not comprehend such a large number) life, for us wretched sinners. So I ask you, is baptism what really saves you, or is it just an act of obendience, publicly declaring your faith in Christ? (I'm also going to say this even though its not a reliable source, Copilot AI even states that "The Bible supports the view that baptism is not necessary for salvation," citing its source as a website called openbible.info)
@@bridgefin @bridgefin ("You need the whole bible and not just select verses"... proceeds to quote select verses... slightly hypocritical but whatever) Ep 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Yes there are verse in the Bible that support baptism saving, like 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism, which corresponds to this now saves you - not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience." But my question to you is this, why would one symbolic act prevent you from turning away from God and sinning in the future? How does baptism save you if you then go and throw it all away? Would an unconditionally loving God put someone into Hell who hadn't been baptised since they were too young, didn't know enough, or had never heard about baptism? Salvation is a gift of grace, correct? Then what difference does it make if you get baptised? Ultimately if human beings can never save themselves, then how can them getting baptised save them? And in Luke 23:43, one of the criminals who was being crucified alongside Jesus repented and got saved, all without baptism. In Luke 23:43 Jesus himself says "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise." This shows that ultimately baptism is not what saves you, it is your heart being set on Jesus Christ, for he gave his perfect, literally priceless (Not priceless as in paintings, priceless as in we could not comprehend such a large number) life, for us wretched sinners. So I ask you, is baptism what really saves you, or is it just an act of obedience, publicly declaring your faith in Christ?
"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him." Was Noah and his family saved my the water? No, water killed all creatures on the earth, but yes, because water killed all filth on the earth. Likewise Jesus said in Luke 12 "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!" Keep in mind that Jesus was physically baptised already. That does mean that baptism doesn't always mean water baptism. Baptism mean to be immersed right? Baptism which Jesus teaches he needs to be baptised with is him having our punishment on his body in hell when he was for three days and three nights after which he rose again. We are saved through what Jesus did not what we did. "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"
I'm an Orthodox Christian. With respect, I want to share with you why I'm Orthodox, and why you should be Orthodox as well. 1) Vatican 1 (which is the First Vatican Council from 1869-70) defined papacy just simply did not exist in the first millennium Church. The Vatican itself has even admitted to this fact in its 2023 Alexandria document (parts 0.1 to 1.3, and 5.1 to 5.4), and in its 2016 Chieti document (parts 2, 3, 13, 16 and especially 19). The early Church knew no such thing as a single bishop having unilateral universal jurisdiction over the other bishops-and we know that the Church is “the pillar and ground of the truth” (1 Tim 3:15). 2) Roman Catholic dogma changes, even on matters as important as salvation. Roman Catholics went from dogmatically teaching strict, literal, no salvation outside of communion with Bishop of Rome [4th Lateran Council canon 1+its dozens of supporting Papal encyclicals], to now dogmatically teaching that Jews and Muslims hold to the “same faith as Abraham” [Lumen Gentium point 16, and Nostra Aetate from Vatican 2 point 3], and non-Roman Catholics are now venerated as Roman Catholic Saints somehow [21 Coptic Martyrs, Orthodox St Sergius of Radonezh, etc.]. How could the “one true Church” acknowledge other churches as being true churches? This is self-refuting. 3) If someone wants to be in the one Church that Jesus Christ himself established in 1st century Jerusalem, his only two serious options are Eastern Orthodox or Roman Catholic. Roman Catholics acknowledge the real presence of Christ in the Eastern Orthodox Eucharist, but Eastern Orthodox do not recognize the validity of the Roman Catholic Eucharist. And if we have ever read John 6:53-54, we know not to play games or take any risks with the Eucharist. May the Holy Trinity guide us all in all things , and lead us into all truth through the prayers of our holy fathers. It's a great video, and I'm so happy you've been searching deeper into your faith, but when you look underneath the surface you realize Orthodoxy is the ONLY preserved faith of Christianity. I'm willingly to answer any questions you may have. God bless you! ❤☦
There’s only 2 things I would like to point out in what you’ve stated. The first, is that a saint can come from anywhere. Of course, as Catholics we have a standard for what makes them saints but, they are not recognized by the Church as “Catholic Saints”, just saints. Secondly, I’ve never known the Church as a whole to ever suggest that Islam is aligned with the teachings of Abraham. Only Muslims will claim that Islam even existed before Muhammad. And Jews are the direct descendants of Abraham’s people so, I’m not even sure what you’re suggesting there. Also, to suggest, that because the Orthodox Church “doesn’t mess around”, that the validity of transubstantiation in the Catholic Church, especially when we accept the Orthodox priest through apostolic succession also have this capability, is not the real transformation into the Body and Blood of Christ, seems more spiteful than anything.
@@lukeboutte4857 “Ubi Petrus Ibi Ecclesia,” “Where Peter is, there is the Church” - St Ambrose of Milan. Excommunicating the bishop of Rome and all Latin Catholics is just not an option...
Brother I love your commitment to God, and I hope you know that as a Catholic I have passion just as your own, but I don't think the point of our faiths right now is to debate that one religion is best over the other, and whether we should convert. I think its time we got to know about each others beliefs, and realize we both believe mostly the same things. I pray that through the holy spirit we may all one day soon reunite together in communion as one Christian Church under God as he Jesus intended, God Bless you in all of your life, and may we meet in heaven!
Here Ill provide some papal primacy in the early church, Quoted in “Athanasius Quoted works” page 110 Pope Julius Letter to the eusebians at Antioch “And why is nothing said to us (The Apostolic see) concerning the Alexandrians in particular, are you ignorant that the custom has been for word to be written first to us and then for a just decision to be passed from this place” so he is saying in the matter of disputes matter should be brought to the see of Rome as to make a judgment and this is the east he is speaking to not just his patriarchal territories. Then he goes on and says “I beseech you readily bare with me what i write is for the common good, for what we have received from the Blessed apostle Peter that i signify unto you and i should have not written this as deeming that these things should be manifest unto all men had not these proceedings so disturbed us” some might say this is peter syndrome where we get all giddy and excited when peter is mentioned and Rome is mentioned but i would like to say Pope Julius said he has received something from the Blessed apostle Peter that disputes in the east should be brought to his judgment to be settled. Now from the writings of the early Church Historian sozomen source: Volume 2 of the nicene and post nicene fathers second series. Book 3 Chapter 10. Heres what he says about this whole affair of Pope Julius writing to the antiochians and what he ment in that segment “the bishops of Egypt having sent the declaration in writing, that these allegations were false and julius having been apprised (to give information to someone) that Athanasius was far from being in safety in egypt send for him to his own city he replied at the same time to the letter of the bishops who were convened at antioch (convened: to bring together a group of people for a meeting, or to meet for a meeting) for just then he happened to receive the epistle and accused them of having planned clandestinely(in a secretive and illicit way.) introduced innovations Contrary to the nicene dogmas and of having violated the laws of the church by neglecting to invite him to join their synod for he alleged that is a sacral Canon which declares that whatever is enacted contrary to the bishop of Rome is null.” Next we have From the Seventh Ecumenical council in 787, “Stand firm; for if you abide with perseverance in the orthodox Faith in which you have begun and so through you the sacred and venerable images are restored in those regions to their former state-just as the lord and emperor Constantine of pious memory and blessed Helena, who promulgated the orthodox Faith, raised up the holy, catholic, and apostolic church of Rome as your spiritual mother, and with the other orthodox emperors venerated it as the head of all the churches…” "...of all the churches... If, moreover, following the traditions of the orthodox faith, you embrace the judgment of the church of the blessed Peter prince of the apostles and, as the holy emperors your predecessors did of old, so you too venerate it with honor and love his vicar from the depths of your hearts, or rather if your rule granted by God follows their orthodox faith in accordance with our holy Roman church, the prince of the apostles, to whom was given by the Lord God the power to bind and to loose sins in heaven and on earth." Also in Nicea II the Pope if referred to as the Chief Priest, The other bishops are referred to as High Priests. Heres Some early church fathers, the blessed (Saint) Cyril, bishop of Alexandria, says: "That we may remain members of our apostolic head, the throne of the Roman Pontiffs, of whom it is our duty to seek what we are to believe and what we are to hold, venerating him, beseeching him above others; for his it is to reprove, to correct, to appoint, to loose, and to bind in place of Him Who set up that very throne, and Who gave the fulness of His own to no other, but to him alone, to whom by divine right all bow the head, and the primates of the world are obedient as to our Lord Jesus Christ Himself.” St. Innocent, Pope of Rome (401-417) The reply of Pope St. Innocent in 417 to the Africans concerning their appeal on the controversy of Pelagius/Celestius goes like this: “In making inquiry with respect to those things that should be treated with all solicitude by bishops, and especially by a true and just and Catholic Council, by preserving, as you have done, the example of ancient tradition, and by being mindful of ecclesiastical discipline, you have truly strengthened the vigour of our Faith, no less now in consulting us than before in passing sentence. For you decided that it was proper to refer to our judgement, knowing what is due to the Apostolic See, since all we who are set in this place, desire to follow the Apostle (Peter) from whom the very episcopate and whole authority of this name is derived. Following in his steps, we know how to condemn the evil and to approve the good. So also, you have by your sacerdotal office preserved the customs of the Fathers, and have not spurned that which they decreed by a divine and not human sentence, that whatsoever is done, even though it be in distant provinces, should not be ended without being brought to the knowledge of this See, [39] that by its authority the whole just pronouncement should be strengthened, and that from it all other Churches (like waters flowing from their natal source and flowing through the different regions of the world, the pure streams of one incorrupt head), should receive what they ought to enjoin, whom they ought to wash, and whom that water, worthy of pure bodies, should avoid as defiled with uncleansable filth. I congratulate you, therefore, dearest brethren, that you have directed letters to us by our brother and fellow-bishop Julius, and that, while caring for the Churches which you rule, you also show your solicitude for the well-being of all, and that you ask for a decree that shall profit all the Churches of the world at once; [40] so that the Church being established in her rules and confirmed by this decree of just pronouncement against such errors, may be unable to fear those men, etc.” The Roman Pontiff has "the care of all the churches." (Innocent I, Denz. 218; Leo I, Serm. 5.2 ML 54.153). He is "the head of all the churches." (Boniface I, Denz. 233; "Decree of Gelasius," Denz. 350; Hadrian I, Mansi 12.1081). Celestine writes "The order of bishops is also the subject of supreme and full power." The "Prefatory note of explanation" adds to these words the following declaration: "This must necessarily be admitted, lest the fulness of the power of the Roman Pontiff be injured... In other words the distinction is made not between the Roman Pontiff and the bishops taken together, but between the Roman Pontiff taken alone and the Roman Pontiff together with the bishops." Saint Ambrose: The Roman see is the source of all rights in the church, Amrose: “From that see derive into all, the rights of the venerable communion” “Rome has spoken, Case closed” This Famous axiom derives from Augustine saying about the pelagian heresy: “Concerning this question two conciliar decisions have been sent to the Apostolic see: Also rescripts came from there, hence the Trial is over.” Serm 131:10 ML 38.734 Augustine : “the sovereignty of the apostolic chair was always in the Roman Church.”serm 131 epist 43. | St Jerome “I kept the unity in communion with your beatitude, that is, with Peter’s chair. I know that the church has been built upon that Rock” Epist to Pope Damascus ML 22.335 Pope Vigilius came to become Pope amid much turmoil in 537, as his predecessor, St Silverius, had been accused of treason, defrocked, and exiled by Belisarius, the general under Empress Theodora. Silverius had refused to re-instate the monophysite patriarch of Constantinople, whom Pope Agapetus had deposed - even here, a recognition of the canonical authority of Rome to depose and judge the other most prominent and important Sees of Christendom was something the Popes fought bitterly to maintain against the emperors. Where was this canonical authority established? In fact, it was as old as the Church itself. When Athanasius had been exiled by a judgment of the Alexandrian Church, Pope Julius had written on his behalf (341): “Judgment ought to have been made, not as it was, but according to the ecclesiastical canon. It behoved you all to write us so that the justice of it might be seen as emanating from all.” Again: “Are you ignorant that the custom has been to write first to us and then for a just decision to be passed from this place [Rome]?”
as some one who has no denomination and just go to whatever church i go to and really just try to rely on the word to guide me, should i try to belong to one or do you think its good to not at all, i just dont personally see a need to be dogmatic in any views in Christianity and see that in all denominations, i feel that people can be a little less willing to test if what they believe is good, not sure if its better for me to find one to belong one to belong to tho
@@potapotapotapotapotapota Friend, there are several people, doctors and masters in biblical studies and Protestant reformers, who would disagree with you. By reading scripture, every individual is clouded by their judgements and perceptions of the text. I don’t know why you can’t understand this.
Going into seminary this August pray for me bros 🙏
Ora et labora
God bless you for answering God's call to the priesthood! I pray he blesses you in abundance and that you have a fruitful life as a priest! God bless!
Same here, God bless!
i pray you read the Christian Bible and study the reformation with focus on the dark ages, inquisitions and other evil atrocities done by this counterfeit 'church'.
in short, how about trying Christianity, friend!
Cool. 👍
The Catholic version of Redeemed Zoomer
@TCZ17090 Im subscribed to Zoomers channel however he's different on his discord server he kinda two faced with his discord server when talking with them
@@stevn744 wdm? Does he act mean or arrogant to his discord? I hope not, I really like his channel
@@alessandrozanzarella9203 he can at times he's not a big fan of Catholics and Orthodox he has had a history and banning them from his discord server and he has had a history of banning people on his discord who he disagrees with he's also been inconsistent when it comes to making discord rules and picking admins I'm a moderator on his discord so I have talked to him a decent amount he's not a bad person but he definitely can be two faced like he says regardless of denominations it's awesome anytime someone gives there life to Christ but when Candance Owens got baptized and became Catholic he complained and said if only she knew about classical protestism then she would not have been Catholic and he did that instead of being happy that she got baptized and joined a church properly
@@stevn744 ok I see
@@stevn744I mean there is a difference in going from Protestantism to Catholicism then going from for example Islam to Catholicism. I think that is what he meant if anyone accepts their life for Christ that he finds it awesome. But the first one, the person already did give their life for Christ but switched to a different denomination. In his eyes the person goes a little further from the truth even if she still gives her life for Christ, which makes him upset.
Did'nt expect such a depth of Catholic knowledge from a MC youtuber that I have never seen before.
I've been Catholic my whole life, and the history of the Catholic church is what proves its reliability and truth the most to me. The fact that Jesus instituted the Eucharist and that the early church did the same is evidence enough for the Mass. ¡Viva Cristo Rey!
Would love to see more of this!!
Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!
Sabbath is saturday not sunday mark 7:6-9
God does not like christmas (Jeremiah 10)
And people who eat pig meat (Isaiah 66)
Plus wearing cross necklace or mary statues (no carved statues 2nd command)
@@matthew953 Look into Catholicism and you’ll realise there’s nothing wrong about it.
Christianity and Catholicism are inseparable as Catholicism/Orthodoxy were the original Christianity. However, I would be hesitant to call it a denomination as there was no such thing as “denominations” until protestantism and their own internal divisions.
right, there were particular heresies and their followers, but not much beyond that.
And it truly proves that Catholicism is the answer, because there are denominations of Eastern Orthodoxy which believe different things from eachother
@@Dusticulousare there? What?
there was denominations or divisions during the time of the apostles and it was condemned directly by paul 1st corinthians 3:3-4 “for you are still carnal. for where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men. for when one says “i am of paul” and another “i am of apollos” are you not carnal ?”
Only orthodoxy. Papis and Filioque is heresy
That’s what convinced me. That Catholics took the Faith *seriously.* A lot of traditions start and end with the sway of the times but Catholicism has been protected by the Holy Spirit for over 2000 years.
969 years.
@@habibi_sport312 Cope
Breaking saturday sabbath is sin(Isaiah 66:23-24)
And eating pork, lobster shrimp(Isaiah 66:16-17)
And doing christmas easter(Deuteronomy 12:30)
and praying to statues rosary, cross idols(exodus 20:4)
@@matthew953 thats old jewish law, not applicable today
@@matthew953the Isaiah verses are the old law, which is null after Jesus
I don't see what Deuteronomy 12:30 has to do with Christmas or Easter
We aren't praying to idols, we are asking Mary to pray on our behalf to God, same with all the other saints
Did not expect to have a Minecraft character to hit me with Catholic apologetics, keep it up brother!
That's Cool. Hugs from a Brazilian Catholic!!
Não sabia que tinha outro br aq
O YT acabou de me recomendar esse vídeo. Não conhecia.
@@Davi.Abraham.Millman tem eu também
Estamos em todos os lugares.
@@HandledToaster2 sim
Amen. I'm in RCIA, getting the three initiation sacraments on the 4th of next Month. I thirst for the Eucharist, thanks be to God
You got my prayers!
God Bless you on your journey, Welcome to the Church family dude!
God doesn't care if you complete a class or a group of Christians tell you that now you can become a Christian. If a Church isn't going to let people in until they complete a class, they are not a true church. Why deny people from Christ if they are seeking Christ?
@@connorallgood0922 No one is denying him anything. It's preparation for a sacrament. We give sacraments to babies. But sometimes, it's better to take some time to prepare for it.
@@connorallgood0922 what? The Church doesn't deny people. RCIA just exists so you can be educated about what Catholics believe and what you're to believe if you become a Catholic. You can attend Mass if you haven't completed the class. I suggest you read about the early Church, though. Between 100 and 300 AD, people who weren't Christian would leave before the Eucharist to study the Word and the faith. That's what RCIA is. You study the Word and the faith so you know.
I’m Catholic too and I had a similar thing happen to me. I have been Catholic my whole life and my favorite person in my family is Catholic, my Grandma. I didn’t really understood what we/I believed until Covid hit and until I started really understanding my faith. I almost lost it a few years back but praise God I didn’t! I love it so much and it has influenced my life to this day. Praise God! Love from an American Catholic 🩷🇺🇸✝️
I'm a protestant but I have to say I find you encouraging. The fact that you're out here preaching the gospel is awesome, even though we disagree on a lot of things. And also, you're so soft spoken and kind when talking through these things, I think you're setting a great example for other Christians. I hope you'll see this, but if not then I guess I'll just tell you this all in heaven lol 😁
You mostly disagree with things you think the Catholic Church teaches but doesn't actually.
"I just want to get you guys thinking." Spoken like a true Catholic. Bless you for speaking well of our faith and to many more videos.
I read this exactly as he sait it, almost got frightened cuz the words just started reading out lol
WE HAVE CATHOLIC REDEEMED ZOOMER OMG
Now we need Orthodox redeemed Zoomer.
1 John 2:3-4 if you don't keep God's commandments you don't know Messiah. Keep sabbath on saturday not sunday Isaiah 66 repent from pork and from christmas idolatry Deuteronomy 12:30
Yooooo
@matthew953 Those are all Jewish laws that we as Gentiles don't fall under, and besides Jesus freed us from the law. Now we are saved through faith and not following rules. That doesn't mean we can sin but it means rules aren't what set us free
I am on the same process of discovering things that were somehow wrongly explained to me in years being a protestant. It's sometimes hard to let go the previous faith and adopt a new one. However I have been experiencing so many blessings through the daily rosary. Happy to be back to Church after decades. Greetings from Rio de Janeiro/Brazil.
I had the same experience, prayed for clarity and got it. I was born Catholic, but as I started studying my faith, I started to feel that this is not indeed truth. I was in doubt to become Muslim, I was athiest for some time, non-denominational (Protestant in disguise), orthodox. I started talking to some guy on discord, he is catholic, and for some reason I refused to believe some teachings. For example that Mary is sinless or that Pope has right to lead the entier church. Now, that God oppened my eyes, i see that i was heretical 100%. God is good!
btw, keep your work up, i really enjoy your videos and hope you continue making them. God bless you!
Well, the Pope isn't perfect. Yes, with his position he CAN come to infallible conclusions, but the pope himself isn't infallible.
You need to remember, the pope is a human, humans are not perfect, only God is perfect.
To say that the pope is perfect would be to say Pope Leo X was perfect, despite the fact he was a p3d0phile and nearly bankrupted the church
As a greek othrodox. We are all united by Christ.God bless you all.
No bro. We are not in communion with the Roman Catholics. They have satanic heresies in their doctrine. Christ cannot be corrupted or divided! They are anathema!
I went to my first mass on September 8th, 2024. I have never felt anything more beautiful than this. I hope to attend more!
God bless you brother! I love finding my fellow Catholic Christains on youtube. blessed be God and his holy name.
As a Protestant, I love and respect my Catholic brothers in Christ.
Try RCIA
@ no thanks, I have no plans to become catholic, but I do have heavy respect for your faith tradition since we both agree with the basic teachings of Christianity. And I’m sorry that my faith tradition doesn’t perfectly align with your beliefs. Jesus prayed we would all be one, ignoring all other Christians and writing them off as false teachings is not the way to achieve that.
@@johnyang1420 we both agree on the essentials of Christianity, therefore we are both Christian. Just because you belong to a denomination that has tons of tradition (and I do appreciate tradition), that doesn’t make your denomination better than any other Bible believing Christian organization.
@Chill_Calvinist_guy You don't have to agree to become Catholic to attend RCIA or Mystagogia. It's dual purpose for ones who want to convert or ones who just want to know more. I will say I'd go to a parish that still does the Latin Mass for RCIA, you're more likely to get better catechesis that way.
@ i know enough, thx though.
As a young, fellow catholic I want to congratulate you for your work!:)
I am a newly converted Catholic, but I'm not officially a Catholic. This video is very well made. God bless
I am currently suffering from the same confusion of denominations , but this video has helped me alot to strengthen my faith in the Catholic church of Jesus. Thanks brother ❤
What a Gem of a video, may God bring you peace and always do God's Will. Just look at the story of Job. Keep up the good job!
Nice church exterior. I love building crazy detailed builds on survival lol. Good for you also ! I was raised Protestant now planning on doing RCIA and being confirmed after that!
Im an orthodox christain (inquierer) and i enjoy hearing my catholic brothers views
Finally someone who feels the urge to build churches in Minecraft just like me.
Real lol
same bro im christian protestant i build catholic, orthodox, baptist and lutheran churches because they look so cool!
love itttt. been looking for a content creator like you. subbed
Broo DAAAAB ME UP❤❤😂😂 Thank you for this video man. God Bless.
As a member of the Orthodox Church I love the beauty of both of our Christianity’s
I'm a Presbyterian, and I respect Catholicism very much. But you should know that not all Protestants are Baptists, and that Presbyterians, Lutherans, and Anglicans all believe that baptism saves and that we truly feast on the body and blood of Christ during communion. As a Presbyterian, we also believe that faith without works is dead and that our faith is justified by our works. However, we believe that we only do these works BECAUSE we have faith. Works aren't what save us, it's our faith that save us, and that faith gives us works. Works are just proof of our faith. Another thing, Eastern Orthodox Christians also claim Jesus founded their church. Why are Catholics the church of Christ and not them? In reality, all churches have pastors that could trace their lineage back the Apostles. Martin Luther was a priest after all, so he carried that succession with him. Anyways, I enjoyed your video and pray for your success with this channel!
Hi, I'm obviously not the video creator, but I thought I'd answer some of these questions about ecclesiology and try to have a conversation, especially since you seem so genuine and kind in your message.
First, I want to establish something about marriage because it will serve as an analogy for the subsequent paragraphs. Let's say that you have a wedding and say your wedding vows, but when you get up there to say your vows, there is nothing about a lifelong union that lasts until death, nothing about the procreation and rearing of children, and nothing about the duties of marriage, such as fidelity, loyalty, sexual exclusivity, etc. Instead, the 'vows' consist of a series of quippy jokes meant to entertain your guests. Perhaps you are getting married because you want a party and you don't even really understand what marriage is. If you don't understand what marriage is, how can you enter into a lifelong commitment? Can you agree to something that you didn't understand or explicitly agree to? Were you truly even married?
For the Catholic Church, the case against the Reformation-era confessional Churches (such as Presbyterianism, Anglicanism, and Lutheranism) that had previously ordained clergy is something akin to this. We maintain that even though you all initially had valid orders, you lost these orders due to an insufficient understanding and intention to pass them on.
The reason that the Catholic Church denies apostolic succession to the Presbyterians is precisely because you all deny the episcopacy. You all collapse the distinction between presbyters and bishops into them all being priests/elders. Since Catholic theology teaches that only bishops can ordain new men to the priesthood, you all not acknowledging the reality of episcopate becomes a major problem for the validity of your apostolic succession.
The reason that the Catholic Church denies apostolic succession to the Anglicans and Lutherans is similar. While they maintain the episcopacy, they do not recognize the sacrificial nature of the mass and therefore the priesthood. We Catholics recognize that the priest acts in the person of Christ during the mass and during confession, and the lack of intention to keep this as an essential part of the priesthood would be like possessing the lack of intention to have a lifelong union when getting married. Add onto this, when you introduce women to your holy orders, this messes with the ordination rites even more: women cannot be ordained to holy orders, so any attempt is invalid by its very nature.
As for the Eastern Orthodox, the Catholic Church actually maintains that they continue to have valid holy orders to this very day. They have bishops, priests, and real Eucharists. The Catholic Church maintains that they, along with other schismatic groups like the Oriental Orthodox or the sedevacantists, are particular churches with apostolic succession but separated from THE Church of Christ that Jesus founded. The marker of truth and unity in the Catholic framework is the Papacy; bishops in communion with the Bishop of Rome are assured of their orthodoxy and united to the Church of Christ.
@@trying-to-learn on the issue of succession, that's conjecture. Apostolicae Curae (which denied Anglican orders) did not apply to Lutherans, nor to the idea of whether episcopal succession was passed on (in irregular form) but to sacrificial intention alone.
As such, the problem with that promulgation is that it raises the bar so high that by its own standards, it unintentionally condemns every Eucharistic/Ordination rite East and West, ancient and modern (including the rites of Paul VI) -- except for the Tridentine rite. The idea of the Eucharistic sacrifice and sacrificial priesthood was much more nebulous in the early church; ecumenical research and liturgical studies has complicated the matter even at the official level.
As for the papacy, that's the contended issue by everyone except for the Roman catholics, and as such the bare assertion that communion with the Pope is necessary for the being of the church's catholicity is highly spurious as you are assuming what you need to prove.
@@poordoubloon10 I'm a Catholic and was engaging in a friendly conversation where I was explaining the Catholic position on ecclesiology. Sharing a unique doctrine of the CC doesn't make it spurious. It's a unique, defining doctrine. That's all : )
Based and Christ-Pilled
I can recommend listening to friar Mike on the bible in a year podcast (it is as implied, he reads a part of the bible each day pf the year), he gives a lot of catholic insight on the bible, our traditions, etc.
As a Lutheran, I agree 100%. Baptism saves us. We must be fed by the true Body and Blood of Christ. And we must show forth our salvation, received by grace alone, through our good works, which by themselves don't save us (this we might have a bit of disagreement). Unfortunately, all you mentioned in the video is the fruit of popular evangelicalism. Lutherans never intended to break away from the teachings of the Church.
Now, if I may ask you, how would you describe other strong Catholic beliefs? For example: immaculate conception of Mary, purgatory, treasury of merit, invocation of the saints, etc? I don't think there's much biblical, or even patristic support for those. Now, I might be wrong, that's why I would love to hear your opinion on those, if possible.
I don't know if my comment sounded how I intended, but I truly liked your video! Wish you the very best your journey in the faith. God bless, brother!
We are saved by grace through Faith apart from works. Romans 4:5, He that has faith, but works not is counted as righteous
God bless brother. I will pray that God helps you on your journey of faith. God bless!
Thank you for sharing, I went back too and love being part of the catholic church.
Catholicism isn’t a denomination. It is the origin of all Christianity passed down from Jesus Christ Himself ❤️
EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS!!
Damn your channel is huge lol
Non-denominational Evangelical here! I appreciate the Catholic Church greatly for it's history, architecture and (for the parts that haven't been infected by liberalism like has happened in every mainline denomination in this day and age) the adherence to tradition has immense value so thank you very much for maintaining that. My disagreements come from practice and history not really theology. All institutions of man, including Churches, have the potential for corruption (Jesus warned against this in Matthew 7:15) and smaller Churches naturally have an easier time rooting out the wolves in sheep's clothing if and when they do appear, whereas I see via people like Redeemed Zoomer show, the larger churches are having a really difficult time getting rid of the modern-day heretics that twist or outright disregard the gospel to their own ends. "For where two or three gather together in My name, there am I with them." - Matthew 18:20, I think today smaller congregations that can build a real personal connection with people in an age where true community has all but died out in the name of tolerance and secularism, in a way that a large institution based on the opposite side of the world cannot. It's also worth remembering that prior to the reformation the Bible was only in Latin ad the original manuscripts so the average person couldn't read it, then Martin Luther translated it to German and Henry the 8th had it translated into English so now everybody could read the scripture. As long as you're keeping the Gospel and the recorded tradition above whatever current Church leadership says, y'all are a boon to the faith.
God bless you, brother.
In addition to the works debate. Were not saved by our works were saved too good works. Works a part of an evident faith and they come with the journey in Christ. Amen.
The truth is this: we do not do good works to prove that we are saved, we do good works because we have ALREADY BEEN SAVED the moment we believe in Jesus!
I love and respect all Christians and I would never call Catholics non-christians. However, Catholics claim that Catholicism is the literal Kingdom of God on earth, but "The coming of the kingdom of God cannot be observed, and no one will announce, 'Look, here it is,' or, 'There it is,' for behold, the kingdom of God is within you." -Luke 17:20-21. Jesus is teaching the Pharisees in this verse that the Kingdom of God is not something that you can see. Jesus is teaching that it is not us within the Kingdom, it's the Kingdom that is within us.
I trust and acknowledge the tradition and truths within Catholicism, but surely the full truth of the Gospel comes from and through Jesus alone, not from or through the church. For there is "one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." -1 Timothy 2:5.
I just gotta say I also grew up Catholic. I even considered leaving but until recently, I think I’m in the right place. ❤
Your connection with Jesus Christ is the most important part of your faith. The denomination of your Christianity doesn't matter nearly as much as your relationship with god. Do not get caught up with the little differences between Baptist, Catholic, Methodist, ect. Those who believe in Jesus Christ are one of the same family.
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@TCZ17090 As it says in Galatians 1:8, if the Catholic church were to teach something contrary to the Gospel then let them be ANATHEMA. And that is exactly what has happened and continues to happen. To this day, even now the Pope has said that Jesus is not the only way to get to Heaven.
I was in the same boat, I listened to the lies and misconceptions of the Catholic church until I did the research. Reading the early church fathers, church history, the CCC all in unity with the complete bible, not the incomplete bible that Protestants use. Never have I been so close to Christ, I thank God and for my brothers and sisters in heaven that prayed for me.
Catholicism is Pre-Denominational, I Love being apart of Christs church.
Former Protestant
Amen I was confirmed into the Catholic Church at Easter this year. Converted from Proterstantism. God bless
God bless you and keep you.
CYPRIAN OF CARTHAGE
“The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it. And to you I will give the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever things you bind on earth shall be bound also in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth, they shall be loosed also in heaven’ [Matt. 16:18-19]). … On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were also what Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?” (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
But I thought in the early church Peter led over the east and Paul over the west? Or something like that.
Catholic too, thinking just like me!🥰✝
I love how you showed the process of skipping over the AI overview and scrolling to results
2:15 casually leaving out the source “according to the Roman Catholic Church”
According to the Bible, (Matthew 16:18-19, John 21:17) which is compiled by the Catholic church. Fun fact as a little side note, Catholic comes from the Greek word, “katholikos” which means “universal.” Please study scripture extensively with an open mind and relate it to the structure of the church as we see it today.
@ according to the Bible Pray to Mary and pay the church to get your family members out of purgatory
Glad I found a Catholic Channel :)
Filipino Catholic playing TLauncher (your cracked free Minecraft). Everytime I’m in a creative world, I build a cathedral for villagers and make it a Catholic town. Pray that I may build one in my survival world. 🙏🙏🙏
Im Orthodox and I find Catholicism nice and the traditions, the beautiful churches and it helping the poor the people in need. May God bless you and all of you Amen. ❤☦️🤝✝️❤️
“I hope this got you thinking.” It certainly did. God bless you. ❤
The closest thing to protestantism in the time of the early church would have been viewed as heresy.
Galatians 1:8 says "But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!" The Protestant Reformation had to happen because the Catholic church no longer taught the truth of the Gospel.
@@potapotapotapotapotapotaSo the gates of hell prevailed against the Church? Something Christ promised not to?
@@OVOFloyd The Church is not a building or an institution, but a group of believers, wherever they may gather. That verse is talking moreso about the fact that Satan may persecute the Church and kill those who share the Gospel, but that will only make the Gospel spread more. But the buildings themselves may not continue because they can become corrupted by bad teachings and wolves in sheep's clothing. The 7 Churches of Asia in the Book of Revelation were each warned not to stray from the faith or God would take away His blessing from them. And the sad thing is that none of those churches exist today. Because that's the thing - the original Church that established these churches eventually passed away and was replaced by a completely new generation who themselves had the choice to accept or reject the Gospel and continue teaching what they had learned from the previous generation. If they don't continue then that's not God's fault for failing to protect them but theirs for accepting sin into the community of believers.
@ 😂 That verse does not talk about persecution. Read it again, this time without your prejudice of the Scriptures.
@ Also I’m not going to refute the rest of your comments, as quite frankly they will fall on deaf ears.
Just got your video in my home feed. You remind me of Redeemed Zoomer! I subscribed! I hope to hear more from you, even as a non-Catholic.
Would love a video on the geopolitics of the papacy. I think the platonic version of the papacy pushed by Catholic apologists is appealing. But the reality of the Vatican seems to be a modernist everchanging position used by the global elite to push homosexuality or other agendas such as communism. It’s fun to debate Thomism and high level apologetics but at the end of the day that’s not what the papacy is anymore, it hasn’t been since the early 1900s. The Papacy has basically reneged on all of their teachings from Vatican I at this point.
'No two souls are alike.' - St Teresa of Avila, Catholic.
Shalom Shalom my brother in Christ🙏
I was always told that marry was way more significant in catholic church and people would even pray to her which I found weird, I just believe the bible and follow what it says the best I can and try to build a relationship with Jesus, so I don't consider myself under any denominations or anything
This is a dope video bro keep it up!
God Bless you man, cool video
I think I found a new friend
When you told about yourself it made me think of myself
Too add on to that, just remember to not think that Baptism is what saves you, that is the gift of salvation that God has gracefully provided, yes faith without works is nothing, but Jesus did say he will deny those who he did not know, (Matthew 7:21-23) those who did works and failed to uphold their genuine love and faith for God. It shouldn’t be religion, it should be relation with God. God bless ❤
It’s a old bad habit that Catholics say I’m Catholic and leave the Christian part off plus years of bad Catholic religious education, it is getting better
It’s not a bad habit, Catholic means universal and that’s the church we are a part of, it should be assumed we are Christian
@@cizzorzsonandy9773 it reveals that people identify with the institution more than the faith.
@@blissseeker4719 The church is the institution of God, it certainly doesn't reveal anything bad
@@blissseeker4719 no because the faith itself is catholic. We hold to the catholic faith. Just google the Athanasius creed, it says catholic faith.
@@cizzorzsonandy9773 the church = gathering of Christians. A church can be described as being in a house, or building. This is the definition according to scripture.
I recommend you stop following the Catholic institution which, before now, used to tell people that giving them money would reduce their time in purgatory.
'It makes the Bible make sense' I had to know where the Bible came from to help me understand it (Council of Rome AD 382)
Yeah, I went pretty much the same path 😆, instead of making a Christian Minecraft Server I put the Christian Bible into Minecraft.
Maybe we could work together on something some time? I think we'd make for a good team!
As a Catholic who has Protestant family members and has lived in an Islamic country i could not agree more, I grew up seeing Protestant churches as well as Catholic and the difference between how they handled the Bible and the church was astonishing.
The Catholic faith is the full truth, and while others have some truths but a half truth is not the truth.
What ultimately drove my faith in Catholicism was the history, the way the Catholic Church shows that it is the church of god, and truthfully how the Protestant church conducts itself and its beliefs.
The biggest problem with the Protestant faith in my opinion is that to fallow the beliefs of the Protestant faith is to deny the word of god
“And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.” Jesus Christ. Matthew 16:18
And to believe in the Protestant faith was to believe that gods church was corrupted that is what Calvin and Martin Luther believed so i cannot place my trust in a institution that was built as a rebellion against gods church.
Saying that Protestants have denied God because they do not want to go to a church that itself denies the teachings of Jesus is completely illogical. The Church of God is not a building, it is the people themselves that believe in Jesus and follow after Him. If a group of people who meet up in a building and claim to be Christian taught something contrary to the Gospel, let that group of people be anathema as Paul says in the Bible (Galatians 1:8). Even Jesus in the Book of Revelation says that He will take away His blessing from any church that no longer follows after Him. "To the church of Laodaceia ... I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth." This is a warning from God that if you stray from Him then your church will no longer belong to Him.
@@potapotapotapotapotapota name one thing that the Catholic Church teaches that goes against the teachings of Jesus
I know Protestants create a lot of myths about the church so please name 1 actual thing that the Catholic Church teaches that is not the word of Jesus.
Also that was Paul talking about Galatian Christians meanwhile Matthew 16:18 is directly from Jesus and I think that quote fits Protestants more then the other churches like Catholicism or Orthodoxy did you know many Protestants tried to join the Orthodox after the schism but where rejected and denounced as heretics that in my opinion speaks volumes, in fact most Protestant churches come from two groups and then broke off from them the first being Martin Luther which I can only refer to the above post the second being the Anglican Church which was founded over a man’s desire for power and lust, so personally I trust the Catholic or Orthodox Church much more than the Protestants.
@@bigjoem9808 I could name more than one thing. But I think the biggest teaching in Catholicism that goes against Jesus' teachings is that you have to obey the traditions of Catholicism in addition to your faith to be saved.
Matthew 16:18 does not convince me that the true Church has continued through the Catholic tradition per se, it just means that the Church itself will continue through randomly chosen, backwater people and that God has used them to do great things. Most importantly, God used them to record His Word, in the historical Gospel accounts and in the letters to the churches.
But if anyone leading the Church, even if they were chosen by God, were to teach something contrary to the Gospel, then I would no longer consider them to be apart of that promise in Matthew 16:18. You can claim that modern Catholicism is a continuation of the original church all you want, but it makes no difference if what they teach contradicts the Bible.
Like if the Catholic church or the Pope were to suddenly teach that you could only get to Heaven by facing East and saying a hundred arbitrary gibberish incantations every single day then I would consider that church to be teaching heresy. If you were to just blindly obey such a teaching then I would question if you are even capable of critical thought.
For Jesus said "Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword." Matthew 10:34-36 shows us that divisions in the Church are to be expected,. The truth is that lies will always be taught and people will believe whatever they want to believe, based on their motivations. But if you are just going to blindly obey what you have been taught without wrestling with it then you could end up believing something that contradicts the Gospel and no longer be saved.
The whole book of Hebrews is dedicated to this - there were Jews in the Church that were teaching people that they needed to follow the Jewish Laws and traditions in addition to their faith to be saved, and the writer told the Church not to believe them one bit.
The simple fact is that we need nothing except faith in God to be saved. We do not do good works to prove we are saved, we do good works out of appreciation towards God for the fact that WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAVED!! The thief on the cross didn't have to lift a finger to get to Heaven. He was already on His was to Hell, but He heard the words of Jesus and believed, and Jesus told him that was all that was necessary to be saved.
No church attendance, no prayers, no worship music--NOTHING!! That's what makes the Gospel so life changing - it reveals to us the nature of God, that He loves us unconditionally and we don't have to perform for Him or earn His love. God teaches us what Love truly is. And when we realize that, we become capable of that kind of love and are able to put to death our sinful nature and live with Him forever in Heaven.
@@potapotapotapotapotapota you really do not know what you’re talking about and it’s quite evident.
Because the traditions that you’re talking about are not randomly invented, nor is, it believed in the Catholic Church that traditions will save you, you literally pull that out your ass, but rather the traditions you were talking about is following God and very specifically following Jesus and his teachings,
I’ll give you a prime example of this in Baptist churches they refuse to serve wine in the Eucharist instead using grape juice.
So again, I ask, give me an example and not one that is randomly pulled out of your ass by a random protestant site that has nothing to do with reality because he was the truth. The Catholic Church believes that Jesus is God and God is the only one that can save you , it also believes that you Must be in God‘s grace and your actions you will be saved.
In other words, you cannot be just a rapist live your life raping pillaging and then act like you’re going to be saved
Just as a point of understanding, Martin Luther didn't want to start his own church nor did he want to break away from the Catholics, he could have joined with the Eastern Orthodox church but he did not agree with them on theological grounds.
There is a lot to the whole ordeal and I would encourage you to look into it more, to give you a better understanding of why things played out the way they did.
Good video over all.
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Forgive me if I'm misrepresenting the Catholic view, but what it seems they believe is "If you have faith, but don't do anything to respond to it, you aren't saved."
This is directly contradictary to the Bible. Read Romans 4:5
If you believe in Christ's sacrifice then get baptized to be saved, then God wouldn't be saving you out of His grace, but because He would owe you. Please repent and trust in Christ's sacrifice alone to cover your sins.
Hey @monkeyman3485 ,
God (who is grace) gave us created grace which is a gift to give us the ability to even get to know God (this created grace is what saves us). This created grace breaks down into multiple categories and one of those is Faith. Faith breaks down into two subsets Belief and Works. You need to have both the belief in God and doing the works of God to have true faith in Him. Anyone can have that initial belief in God and truly believe in their heart that Jesus is God and is the only way to heaven) but if we don’t do the good deeds God asked of us do we truly have faith in him? Satan BELIEVES in God but doesn’t do his good WORKS of him, which means he doesn’t have faith in God. If I truly believe in someone wouldn’t I want to do what they asked me to do? In the end we aren’t saved by just works or just belief we need the created grace God gave us and to fully use that gift we need faith which is both belief (I believe in God) and Works (God tells me to be Christ like so I will act in such a way).
Matthew 25:35-46 Truly I say to you as you did it to one of the least of these brethren you did it to me. (You should read the rest of Matthew 25:35-46 if you want a better idea, I just put a snapshot of what it’s saying)
Luke 7:46-49 Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord’ and not do what I tell you? (more specific Luke 7:46).
James 2:17-26 explains the following: So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead (James, 17). You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith (James, 24).
Romans 2:6-7 “For he will render to every man according to his works: to those who by practice in well-doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, he will give eternal life.”
Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done.”
I hope this brief explanation helped but a good resource if you want to understand further is to look up Catholic answers the TH-cam channel and find when they talk about faith and works. There’s a good chance I made an error somewhere in my explanation so ya Catholic Answers will have a good explanation. :)
@@Ice-yf4ioHere are some points I would like to clarify
1. Purgatory comes from scriptures without divine influence and was removed from the Catholic canon.
clarification:
Biblical Basis for Purgatory:
Although the word purgatory does not appear explicitly in the Bible, the concept is biblically defensible. For example, in 2 Maccabees 12:46, prayer for the dead is mentioned, implying a post-mortem purification. Although Protestants exclude this book, it was part of the canon used by early Christians and remains part of the Septuagint, a collection of scriptures accepted by the early Church.
In the New Testament, 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 mentions purification through fire after death, which alludes to a purification process.
Matthew 5:25-26 and Matthew 12:32 suggest the existence of a temporary state of purification, as they mention possible forgiveness "in the age to come."
Canon and Tradition:
The Council of Carthage (397 AD) and later the Council of Trent (1546) reaffirmed the canon which includes the deuterocanonical books, such as 2 Maccabees, which support this doctrine.
The concept of purgatory does not contradict Christ's redemption, but rather applies his purifying merit to souls who are not yet fully sanctified.
2. Sola Scriptura is the correct standard since tradition is not reliable.
clarification:
The Bible does not teach Sola Scriptura:
The principle of Sola Scriptura is contradictory since it does not appear explicitly in the Bible. The Bible itself mentions the importance of oral tradition. Examples include 2 Thessalonians 2:15: "Stand firm and hold fast the traditions which we have taught you, whether by word of mouth or by letter."
1 Timothy 3:15 refers to the Church as the “pillar and ground of the truth,” implying an authority outside of Scripture.
The Early Church and Tradition:
Church Fathers such as St. Irenaeus and St. Ignatius of Antioch argued for the transmission of faith through apostolic tradition. The compilation of the biblical canon was a result of the authority of the Church, guided by tradition, as the Bible did not exist in its final form until the 4th century.
Problems with Sola Scriptura:
Private interpretation of Scripture under Sola Scriptura has led to doctrinal fragmentation among Protestant denominations. This is in contrast to the Catholic teaching of interpretation under the authority of the Magisterium.
3. Sola Fide arose as a corrective to the Catholic teaching of salvation by works.
clarification:
Misunderstanding of Catholic Doctrine:
The Catholic Church has never taught that works alone can save. The Council of Trent (1547) clarified that justification is by God's grace, received through faith, but that this faith must be manifested in works as evidence of that genuine faith (James 2:24: "A man is justified by works and not by faith alone.").
Faith and Works in Scripture:
The same St. Paul, who emphasizes faith, also clarifies that faith without love (manifested in works) is useless (Galatians 5:6: "Faith working through love.").
Ephesians 2:8-10 mentions salvation by grace, but adds that we are "created in Christ Jesus for good works," which indicates the need for the believer's cooperation with grace.
Martin Luther and Doctrine:
Luther modified the translation of Romans 3:28 by adding the word "alone" (sola fide), which altered the original meaning of the text. His rejection of the Epistle of James, calling it a straw epistle, shows doctrinal bias rather than rigorous biblical analysis.
Overall Conclusion:
Purgatory, the necessity of Tradition, and the relationship between Faith and Works are solidly based on Scripture and apostolic tradition.
The Protestant doctrine of Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide proves to be incomplete and, in some cases, contradicts clear biblical passages.
The Catholic Church, in interpreting Scripture with the guidance of the Magisterium and Tradition, follows the apostolic teaching that is most consistent with the original texts and the practice of the early Church.
blessings.
The prequel to “Why I’m Orthodox”
"Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church." -The Catholic Church
To be fair nothing about Protestantism says you can’t learn from the church fathers
Catholic: We put the Bible together!
Protestants: God put the Bible together!
One sounds more humbler
How does that matter humility doesnt equal truth
God (the Holy Spirit) put the Bible together through His one, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. It didn’t just fall from the sky.
@@GodEater365 through the Catholic church he did it, but it was God's doing, not the Catholic's doing. An IMPORTANT distinction to make.
@@Jack-yh9st pride is the original sin, so you best stay far from it!
@@PaperBagGambles it’s ALWAYS His doing, through HIS Church.
Catholicism isn't a denomination, its the common denominator. the one that all other forms are based off of in some way
If a church institution changes then it is no longer the common denominator, but has itself become something else entirely. The true Church of Jesus Christ lives on, not through the genealogies and traditions of men, but through the Holy Spirit which gives us all the desire to worship God wherever we may be.
@@potapotapotapotapotapota the Church hasn’t changed though. Only superficially; but in beliefs and practices it has never changed
@@tarzanbonanno I would beg to differ. The Catholic church has introduced a lot of extra-biblical teachings and practices since the time of Jesus. Such as creeds, indulgences and sacraments, the invention of purgatory, a declaration of papal infallibility, the assumption of Mary and her immaculate conception, the veneration of saints and relics, support of the LGBT agenda and globalisation. And most importantly, many popes have made many claims that you can get to Heaven without explicit faith in Jesus.
@@potapotapotapotapotapota this only tells me you dont actually know Catholicism or church history and only what the media tells you. and if you cant profess the creeds I dont see you as a Christian and cannot/will not argue with you
@@tarzanbonanno That's fine. If you are unwilling to talk that's all well and good.
the catholic church changed that why martin luther wanted to reform it... core blimey
Catholic Christianity and Orthodox Christianity can be viewed as “pre-denominational” and the Latin Church and Eastern Churches (in and out of communion with Rome) are to be seen as the only proper churches with valid sacraments / apostolic succession.
This is what separates ancient apostolic Christianity from Protestant Christianity with its many denominations and revivalists/restorationists movements. Even the most high-church and historic churches of Protestantism are lacking severely because they have no sacraments and no valid apostolic succession.
I would dispute the logic that Anglicanism doesn't have apostolic authority, but the Orthodox Church does.
@@mrjohnson1627 I’m just giving the official line from the Catholic Church. Catholics/Orthodox don’t recognize Anglicanism as a whole as having a legit priesthood. At least, not automatically or across the board. This is different from how we Catholics see the Eastern Churches.
Except all the historic, mainline Protestant denominations like Lutheranism, Presbyterianism or Anglicanism sprung out of Catholic church by already ordaned priests.
Martin Luther was an ordaned Catholic priest and a doctor of theology and while Calvin wasn't a priest other reformers and reformed pastors were ordaned priests.
Mainline Reformation was never supposed to create new denominations, it was to reform the Catholic Church and purge it of many evils that plagued it back then.
It was the Radical Reformation with movements like Anabaptists and Mennonites that saught to start over from scratch, not mainline protestants.
And even if we disregard that then the evidence for apostolic succession being a requirement is tenuous at best.
Mark 9:38-41:" “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”
“Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, for whoever is not against us is for us. Truly I tell you, anyone who gives you a cup of water in my name because you belong to the Messiah will certainly not lose their reward."
What makes a Church is not apostolic succession. We do not base our religion on unquantifiable things like that, we base it on faith in Jesus alone. For Jesus calls us all to believe in Him personally, and as the Scriptures say "where 2 or 3 are gathered, there I am with them."
@@potapotapotapotapotapota2 Thessalonians 2:15 is incomprehensible to a Protestant without the light of the Catholic Church
Very good video
Right on. I guess my ethnic heritage doesn't mean as much to you. Have a blessed day.
3:20 I'm glad you mention 1 Peter 3:21 because this verse proves baptism with water is symbolic. It literally states that "this water SYMBOLIZES BAPTISM", and since baptism in the Spirit is what saves us, baptism by water will never save us. Baptism by water is symbolism for our baptism in Spirit. Baptism in Spirit does save you, not of water.
In this context it says that water which symbolizes baptism is water in Noah day. Baptism can have different meaning in scripture because baptism just means immersion. For example Jesus said in Luke 12 "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!". He's not talking about water baptism but actually about being immersed in hell and taking our punishment. We are saved because he took our sins on his body. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thy shall be saved :)).
You’re very wrong in this. And to believe that it is a symbol is a matter of salvific issue.
I recommend you go read the old testament and truly see how our Lord has been using water to cleanse since before the incarnation of our Christ.
@@Catholic_Rock What do you say about 1 Corinthins 1 and 3? Or do you just agree that the church should be divided over everything?
@@connorallgood0922 Crispus was the one Paul baptized and made leader of the church of Corinth. He was a Jewish leader that was baptized by Paul and Gaius was also baptized by Paul and made to be a host of the church of Corinth.
You see here the discussion of Baptism and the quarrels that it created in the early church.
And if you were to understand and accept apostolic succession you would understand that Paul was an apostle not just a disciple of Christ.
Saint Soterios succeeded Saint Paul and was the bishop of Corinth. Why is this important?
Because you asked me if I believe the church should be divided and the answer is no.
The Catholic Church remains united and has been for 2,000+ years now. It is the Protestants, LDS’s, the 7th day Adventist, the Jehovah Witnesses that are separated from the Holy See. 🇻🇦.
We apostolic Christians are still following all of Christ’s teaching, traditions, and leadership.
We submit and continue to believe and wait for Christs return.
Jesus is only coming for one bride and that is the Catholic Church and the saints of His church.
Let he who hears hear.
May God bless you. 🙏🇻🇦🕊️✝️
What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that *worketh not*, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: *Not of works*, lest any man should boast.
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John 10:9 "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture."
Did Jesus in that passage changed into a door?
Luke 22:19 "And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me."
Did Jesus changed this bread to be his body?
John 6:48 "I am that bread of life."
Was this verse preached in the context of last supper? Here's the whole context from verse 48 to verse 52:
"I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?"
This is not in the context of the last supper. You don't wanna eat manna and be dead. What did Jesus gave for us on the cross? His flesh! What did Jesus shed on the cross? His blood! Believe, trust on the Lord Jesus Christ ALONE and thy shall be saved!
Hi there! I'm a Baptist Protestant who attends a Roman Catholic school. Just to let any doubters know, Roman Catholics are Christians! all Christians, wether Baptist, Roman Catholic, Or Orthodox Catholic are united in Faith in Jesus, and Faith in Jesus saves us, not denominations.
Great video!
Whats your thoughts on Ortodoxy?
Thats a great video
The only other Church, that is as close to the original faith as Catholic Church, is the Orthodox Church.
But they have fallen into heresy in 15th century, when they denounced filioque - which was accepted by the whole church in 8th century.
When the Schism happened, there was no disagreement with filioque. There was no filioque controversy in 1054.
There were issues before that with whole branches already being in heresy.
That was just the straw that broke the camels back. It was more an excuse to break than it was an actual issue.
@@darth3911
Nah mate. Filioque is orthodox cope.
Only thing I may add is that we're pre-denominational
Cool slogan.
Romans 4:5 proves sola fide.
Catholicism is not a denomination, it is the original and the one.
ORIGINAL HERESY FACTORY!
@ explain filthy heretic
I come from a non-traditional church background. I would not identify myself as Protestant or Catholic, but I am definitely more Protestant. I am definitely glad I've seen this, even though I do not agree with you on it. I do not believe what denomination you are in matters though, since we all believe that ultimately we ourselves will never be good enough to be saved, and therefore it is through the mercy and grace of God and Jesus that we will be granted eternal life.
What you said about Jesus founding the Catholic Church is a half-truth. He didn't just found the Catholic church, he founded the ENTIRE church. And baptism definitely does not save you. Only faith does - John 3:16 (The most famous bible verse) - "For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, so that anyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life." No where in or near that does it say anything about baptism being needed to be saved. Yes Jesus baptised people, yes he told us to "Go make disciples of the nations and baptise them," but in no way does that mean that baptism is necessary for our salvation.
Again, this is my opinion, coming from a non-traditional background, and I find your opinion perfectly valid, but I would like to know more about your opinion, and if anyone else has anything to add or debate with me about, please, respond with it. Thank you.
You: And baptism definitely does not save you.
Me: 1 Peter 3:21: Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but vas an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
You: Only faith does - John 3:16
Me: You really need the whole bible and not just select verses. According to John 3:36 the opposite of faith is disobedience. Therefore faith includes obeying. Faith itself is an act so works can never put aside.
@@bridgefin @bridgefin ("You need the whole bible and not just select verses"... proceeds to quote select verses... slightly hypocritical but whatever) Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Yes there are verse in the Bible that support baptism saving, like 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism, which corresponds to this now saves you - not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience." But my question to you is this, why would one symbolic act prevent you from turning away from God and sinning in the future? How does baptism save you if you then go and throw it all away? Would an unconditionally loving God put someone into Hell who hadn't been baptised since they were too young, didn't know enough, or had never heard about baptism?
Salvation is a gift of grace, correct? Then what difference does it make if you get baptised? Ultimately if human beings can never save themselves, then how can them getting baptised save them?
And in Luke 23:43, one of the criminals who was being crucified alongside Jesus repented and got saved, all without baptism. In Luke 23:43 Jesus himself says "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise." This shows that ultimately baptism is not what saves you, it is your heart being set on Jesus Christ, for he gave his perfect, literally priceless (Not priceless as in paintings, priceless as in we could not comprehend such a large number) life, for us wretched sinners. So I ask you, is baptism what really saves you, or is it just an act of obendience, publicly declaring your faith in Christ?
(I'm also going to say this even though its not a reliable source, Copilot AI even states that "The Bible supports the view that baptism is not necessary for salvation," citing its source as a website called openbible.info)
@@bridgefin @bridgefin ("You need the whole bible and not just select verses"... proceeds to quote select verses... slightly hypocritical but whatever) Ep 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Yes there are verse in the Bible that support baptism saving, like 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism, which corresponds to this now saves you - not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience." But my question to you is this, why would one symbolic act prevent you from turning away from God and sinning in the future? How does baptism save you if you then go and throw it all away? Would an unconditionally loving God put someone into Hell who hadn't been baptised since they were too young, didn't know enough, or had never heard about baptism?
Salvation is a gift of grace, correct? Then what difference does it make if you get baptised? Ultimately if human beings can never save themselves, then how can them getting baptised save them?
And in Luke 23:43, one of the criminals who was being crucified alongside Jesus repented and got saved, all without baptism. In Luke 23:43 Jesus himself says "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise." This shows that ultimately baptism is not what saves you, it is your heart being set on Jesus Christ, for he gave his perfect, literally priceless (Not priceless as in paintings, priceless as in we could not comprehend such a large number) life, for us wretched sinners. So I ask you, is baptism what really saves you, or is it just an act of obendience, publicly declaring your faith in Christ?
(I'm also going to say this even though its not a reliable source, Copilot AI even states that "The Bible supports the view that baptism is not necessary for salvation," citing its source as a website called openbible.info)
@@bridgefin @bridgefin ("You need the whole bible and not just select verses"... proceeds to quote select verses... slightly hypocritical but whatever) Ep 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Yes there are verse in the Bible that support baptism saving, like 1 Peter 3:21 "Baptism, which corresponds to this now saves you - not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience." But my question to you is this, why would one symbolic act prevent you from turning away from God and sinning in the future? How does baptism save you if you then go and throw it all away? Would an unconditionally loving God put someone into Hell who hadn't been baptised since they were too young, didn't know enough, or had never heard about baptism?
Salvation is a gift of grace, correct? Then what difference does it make if you get baptised? Ultimately if human beings can never save themselves, then how can them getting baptised save them?
And in Luke 23:43, one of the criminals who was being crucified alongside Jesus repented and got saved, all without baptism. In Luke 23:43 Jesus himself says "I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise." This shows that ultimately baptism is not what saves you, it is your heart being set on Jesus Christ, for he gave his perfect, literally priceless (Not priceless as in paintings, priceless as in we could not comprehend such a large number) life, for us wretched sinners. So I ask you, is baptism what really saves you, or is it just an act of obedience, publicly declaring your faith in Christ?
catholicism is the only christianity
Great video gave u a follow
How would you respond to the Roman Catholic church acculturated to the Roman traditions?
"Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him."
Was Noah and his family saved my the water? No, water killed all creatures on the earth, but yes, because water killed all filth on the earth. Likewise Jesus said in Luke 12 "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!"
Keep in mind that Jesus was physically baptised already. That does mean that baptism doesn't always mean water baptism. Baptism mean to be immersed right? Baptism which Jesus teaches he needs to be baptised with is him having our punishment on his body in hell when he was for three days and three nights after which he rose again.
We are saved through what Jesus did not what we did. "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"
I'm an Orthodox Christian. With respect, I want to share with you why I'm Orthodox, and why you should be Orthodox as well.
1) Vatican 1 (which is the First Vatican Council from 1869-70) defined papacy just simply did not exist in the first millennium Church. The Vatican itself has even admitted to this fact in its 2023 Alexandria document (parts 0.1 to 1.3, and 5.1 to 5.4), and in its 2016 Chieti document (parts 2, 3, 13, 16 and especially 19). The early Church knew no such thing as a single bishop having unilateral universal jurisdiction over the other bishops-and we know that the Church is “the pillar and ground of the truth” (1 Tim 3:15).
2) Roman Catholic dogma changes, even on matters as important as salvation. Roman Catholics went from dogmatically teaching strict, literal, no salvation outside of communion with Bishop of Rome [4th Lateran Council canon 1+its dozens of supporting Papal encyclicals], to now dogmatically teaching that Jews and Muslims hold to the “same faith as Abraham” [Lumen Gentium point 16, and Nostra Aetate from Vatican 2 point 3], and non-Roman Catholics are now venerated as Roman Catholic Saints somehow [21 Coptic Martyrs, Orthodox St Sergius of Radonezh, etc.]. How could the “one true Church” acknowledge other churches as being true churches? This is self-refuting.
3) If someone wants to be in the one Church that Jesus Christ himself established in 1st century Jerusalem, his only two serious options are Eastern Orthodox or Roman Catholic. Roman Catholics acknowledge the real presence of Christ in the Eastern Orthodox Eucharist, but Eastern Orthodox do not recognize the validity of the Roman Catholic Eucharist. And if we have ever read John 6:53-54, we know not to play games or take any risks with the Eucharist. May the Holy Trinity guide us all in all things , and lead us into all truth through the prayers of our holy fathers.
It's a great video, and I'm so happy you've been searching deeper into your faith, but when you look underneath the surface you realize Orthodoxy is the ONLY preserved faith of Christianity. I'm willingly to answer any questions you may have. God bless you! ❤☦
There’s only 2 things I would like to point out in what you’ve stated. The first, is that a saint can come from anywhere. Of course, as Catholics we have a standard for what makes them saints but, they are not recognized by the Church as “Catholic Saints”, just saints. Secondly, I’ve never known the Church as a whole to ever suggest that Islam is aligned with the teachings of Abraham. Only Muslims will claim that Islam even existed before Muhammad. And Jews are the direct descendants of Abraham’s people so, I’m not even sure what you’re suggesting there. Also, to suggest, that because the Orthodox Church “doesn’t mess around”, that the validity of transubstantiation in the Catholic Church, especially when we accept the Orthodox priest through apostolic succession also have this capability, is not the real transformation into the Body and Blood of Christ, seems more spiteful than anything.
@@lukeboutte4857 “Ubi Petrus Ibi Ecclesia,” “Where Peter is, there is the Church” - St Ambrose of Milan. Excommunicating the bishop of Rome and all Latin Catholics is just not an option...
Brother I love your commitment to God, and I hope you know that as a Catholic I have passion just as your own, but I don't think the point of our faiths right now is to debate that one religion is best over the other, and whether we should convert. I think its time we got to know about each others beliefs, and realize we both believe mostly the same things. I pray that through the holy spirit we may all one day soon reunite together in communion as one Christian Church under God as he Jesus intended, God Bless you in all of your life, and may we meet in heaven!
Here Ill provide some papal primacy in the early church,
Quoted in “Athanasius Quoted works” page 110 Pope Julius Letter to the eusebians at Antioch “And why is nothing said to us (The Apostolic see) concerning the Alexandrians in particular, are you ignorant that the custom has been for word to be written first to us and then for a just decision to be passed from this place” so he is saying in the matter of disputes matter should be brought to the see of Rome as to make a judgment and this is the east he is speaking to not just his patriarchal territories. Then he goes on and says “I beseech you readily bare with me what i write is for the common good, for what we have received from the Blessed apostle Peter that i signify unto you and i should have not written this as deeming that these things should be manifest unto all men had not these proceedings so disturbed us”
some might say this is peter syndrome where we get all giddy and excited when peter is mentioned and Rome is mentioned but i would like to say Pope Julius said he has received something from the Blessed apostle Peter that disputes in the east should be brought to his judgment to be settled.
Now from the writings of the early Church Historian sozomen source: Volume 2 of the nicene and post nicene fathers second series. Book 3 Chapter 10. Heres what he says about this whole affair of Pope Julius writing to the antiochians and what he ment in that segment “the bishops of Egypt having sent the declaration in writing, that these allegations were false and julius having been apprised (to give information to someone) that Athanasius was far from being in safety in egypt send for him to his own city he replied at the same time to the letter of the bishops who were convened at antioch (convened: to bring together a group of people for a meeting, or to meet for a meeting) for just then he happened to receive the epistle and accused them of having planned clandestinely(in a secretive and illicit way.) introduced innovations Contrary to the nicene dogmas and of having violated the laws of the church by neglecting to invite him to join their synod for he alleged that is a sacral Canon which declares that whatever is enacted contrary to the bishop of Rome is null.”
Next we have From the Seventh Ecumenical council in 787, “Stand firm; for if you abide with perseverance in the orthodox Faith in which you have begun and so through you the sacred and venerable images are restored in those regions to their former state-just as the lord and emperor Constantine of pious memory and blessed Helena, who promulgated the orthodox Faith, raised up the holy, catholic, and apostolic church of Rome as your spiritual mother, and with the other orthodox emperors venerated it as the head of all the churches…”
"...of all the churches... If, moreover, following the traditions of the orthodox faith, you embrace the judgment of the church of the blessed Peter prince of the apostles and, as the holy emperors your predecessors did of old, so you too venerate it with honor and love his vicar from the depths of your hearts, or rather if your rule granted by God follows their orthodox faith in accordance with our holy Roman church, the prince of the apostles, to whom was given by the Lord God the power to bind and to loose sins in heaven and on earth."
Also in Nicea II the Pope if referred to as the Chief Priest, The other bishops are referred to as High Priests.
Heres Some early church fathers, the blessed (Saint) Cyril, bishop of Alexandria, says: "That we may remain members of our apostolic head, the throne of the Roman Pontiffs, of whom it is our duty to seek what we are to believe and what we are to hold, venerating him, beseeching him above others; for his it is to reprove, to correct, to appoint, to loose, and to bind in place of Him Who set up that very throne, and Who gave the fulness of His own to no other, but to him alone, to whom by divine right all bow the head, and the primates of the world are obedient as to our Lord Jesus Christ Himself.”
St. Innocent, Pope of Rome (401-417)
The reply of Pope St. Innocent in 417 to the Africans concerning their appeal on the controversy of Pelagius/Celestius goes like this:
“In making inquiry with respect to those things that should be treated with all solicitude by bishops, and especially by a true and just and Catholic Council, by preserving, as you have done, the example of ancient tradition, and by being mindful of ecclesiastical discipline, you have truly strengthened the vigour of our Faith, no less now in consulting us than before in passing sentence. For you decided that it was proper to refer to our judgement, knowing what is due to the Apostolic See, since all we who are set in this place, desire to follow the Apostle (Peter) from whom the very episcopate and whole authority of this name is derived. Following in his steps, we know how to condemn the evil and to approve the good. So also, you have by your sacerdotal office preserved the customs of the Fathers, and have not spurned that which they decreed by a divine and not human sentence, that whatsoever is done, even though it be in distant provinces, should not be ended without being brought to the knowledge of this See, [39] that by its authority the whole just pronouncement should be strengthened, and that from it all other Churches (like waters flowing from their natal source and flowing through the different regions of the world, the pure streams of one incorrupt head), should receive what they ought to enjoin, whom they ought to wash, and whom that water, worthy of pure bodies, should avoid as defiled with uncleansable filth. I congratulate you, therefore, dearest brethren, that you have directed letters to us by our brother and fellow-bishop Julius, and that, while caring for the Churches which you rule, you also show your solicitude for the well-being of all, and that you ask for a decree that shall profit all the Churches of the world at once; [40] so that the Church being established in her rules and confirmed by this decree of just pronouncement against such errors, may be unable to fear those men, etc.”
The Roman Pontiff has "the care of all the churches." (Innocent I, Denz. 218; Leo I, Serm. 5.2 ML 54.153). He is "the head of all the churches." (Boniface I, Denz. 233; "Decree of Gelasius," Denz. 350; Hadrian I, Mansi 12.1081).
Celestine writes "The order of bishops is also the subject of supreme and full power." The "Prefatory note of explanation" adds to these words the following declaration: "This must necessarily be admitted, lest the fulness of the power of the Roman Pontiff be injured... In other words the distinction is made not between the Roman Pontiff and the bishops taken together, but between the Roman Pontiff taken alone and the Roman Pontiff together with the bishops."
Saint Ambrose: The Roman see is the source of all rights in the church, Amrose: “From that see derive into all, the rights of the venerable communion” “Rome has spoken, Case closed” This Famous axiom derives from Augustine saying about the pelagian heresy: “Concerning this question two conciliar decisions have been sent to the Apostolic see: Also rescripts came from there, hence the Trial is over.” Serm 131:10 ML 38.734
Augustine : “the sovereignty of the apostolic chair was always in the Roman Church.”serm 131 epist 43. | St Jerome “I kept the unity in communion with your beatitude, that is, with Peter’s chair. I know that the church has been built upon that Rock” Epist to Pope Damascus ML 22.335
Pope Vigilius came to become Pope amid much turmoil in 537, as his predecessor, St Silverius, had been accused of treason, defrocked, and exiled by Belisarius, the general under Empress Theodora. Silverius had refused to re-instate the monophysite patriarch of Constantinople, whom Pope Agapetus had deposed - even here, a recognition of the canonical authority of Rome to depose and judge the other most prominent and important Sees of Christendom was something the Popes fought bitterly to maintain against the emperors.
Where was this canonical authority established? In fact, it was as old as the Church itself. When Athanasius had been exiled by a judgment of the Alexandrian Church, Pope Julius had written on his behalf (341): “Judgment ought to have been made, not as it was, but according to the ecclesiastical canon. It behoved you all to write us so that the justice of it might be seen as emanating from all.” Again: “Are you ignorant that the custom has been to write first to us and then for a just decision to be passed from this place [Rome]?”
@@maxmillerlacrosse The Chieti document isn't Magisterial. It has No authority or binding.
as some one who has no denomination and just go to whatever church i go to and really just try to rely on the word to guide me, should i try to belong to one or do you think its good to not at all, i just dont personally see a need to be dogmatic in any views in Christianity and see that in all denominations, i feel that people can be a little less willing to test if what they believe is good, not sure if its better for me to find one to belong one to belong to tho
No it doesn't matter which church you go to as long as they teach the entirety of the Gospel.
@@potapotapotapotapotapotaNo, you follow your fallible interpretation of the Bible, not actually the Bible.
@@OVOFloyd that makes no sense
@@potapotapotapotapotapota Friend, there are several people, doctors and masters in biblical studies and Protestant reformers, who would disagree with you. By reading scripture, every individual is clouded by their judgements and perceptions of the text. I don’t know why you can’t understand this.
@@OVOFloyd Appeals to authority are pointless. Address the arguments I have made because Truth is something no one can claim as their own.
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