Mudan popping up the briefest shot of La La Land during the romance talk, and then defending himself when they are going over his list, I need this man on another episode.
Ngl the more I rewatch La La Land the more mid it feels. To the point that recently it feels more like a parody than an earnest film. The first time I watched it, in theaters when I was 17, it was my movie of the year. The complex reality of adult relationships, old movie references, I ate that shit up. Now at 24 it comes off as overly trite and preachy. Trying too hard to be deeper than it is. It didn't help that I'd always thought the buildup part of the romance was lacking. And they spent 70% of the runtime on it! 😂 Mind you it was the type of movie where they really needed to sell the romance for it to work. If the audience doesn't believe that their love is real, the rest of the movie loses its meaning. The whole movie would be rendered pointless. And the moviemakers knew that, which is why they very deliberately kept the focus on the romantic relationship the ENTIRE TIME and nothing else... Yet I still had no idea why the characters loved each other! So you see why it feels simultaneously overwrought and under-delivered, like a parody of the "romance for romance's sake" trope in Hollywood filmmaking.
@@KingMinish I wouldn't necessarily say it was trying to be deep; it's not exactly M Night Shyamalan. But it definitely was trying to be profound in an Oscar baity way. It wanted to have both substance and style, ended up having little style and no substance.
Kaho's English is genuinely so masterful to a point where she conveys her thoughts more eloquently than many native English speaking classmates I've had
I don't remember the actual quote and I can't find the exact clip, but I remember a Kaho quote saying something like "I'm not so eloquent in English, but at least I know the word 'eloquent'". Pretty sure she used another word rather than "eloquent" but it was one with a similar meaning and I think an even more complicated word.
41:03 In defense of Shinkai, there was an interview where he said Suzume wasn't originally intended to be a "boy-meets-girl" romance, but his producer told him to make it that way due to audience expectations. It's why Souta is a chair for most of the movie - because Shinkai, in an act of rebellion, wanted to make something else the focal point of the movie. In that sense, the criticism that Shinkai can only make the same movie is kind of ironic
And honestly, with the way it ends, it can be interpreted a multitude of ways, which i think was pretty cool. Like its obvious that they're super important to each other and love each other (platonically, romantically, or in some pther way) but anything more than that isn't defined, and i thought that was kind of nice. Felt wholesome in a way? Or maybe just heartwarming
@@thelordoftheweebs9501 Idk, Weathering With You had such a unique magic to it, and just felt like a celebration of Your Names' success. The characters, music and art were all a step up from YN imo, but then again I watched it on release in the cinema and the audience's involvement to the film really added to the enjoyment of it
@OK-mv4ih I mean I just think story wise suzume was better. I do like te ki no ko. The art and animation was great. The drama was good. I just don't really vibe with the whole sacrifice thing. It just felt like an idea that sounded good but had no way of resolving it.
They've been losing lots of views and they were getting stagnant so they had to step up, they used to get 1 mil views within a week and now barely get 700k a month
ngl never thought id say that but anime centric episodes are really refreshing and i found myself enjoying them a lot, bringing them back once in a while is a great idea
Hot take, La La Land didn't work in the way it was intended. The buildup of the romance didn't sell me on why the two loved each other. So obviously the devolvement arc had much less of an impact since, y'know, it never really was a great love to begin with. It took itself so seriously that it ended up being ironically funny.
44:00 The movie Connor is talking is *The vow* with Channing Tatum and Rachel McAdams, the movie is about a married couple, they had an accident and the girl looses her memories including him, so the guy does everything that's possible to make her fall in love with him one more time and remember their moments together while many mysteries from her family come to light. It's a really good story
The way Fruits Basket is almost never discussed is making me so sad 😭 it was next in line in the MAL top list of the last episode too and they skipped it!
@@DA-qn3id It's the most ridiculous thing because it's my favorite and it's literally about rebuilding and healing after trauma, and for some reason these guys just don't get it? Do they think it's some feel-good series? What is going on? No one is truly "happy" in the end, because they all have their own stuff they have had to deal with, they just have connections now that help them deal with it better.
@@camajak I don't think Connor ever watched it, but Joey loves Fruits Basket but I'm not sure about Garnt. I don't know what that other guy is saying about them making fun of Emily.
Connor has a prejudice with shoujo and magic girl stuff, anything girl he doesn't like or even try to like. I feel like out of the 3 the one whos more open to shoujo and different perspective on things with zero prejudice would be Joey but everytime he tries to go along a shoujo conversation connor shuts it down and grant doesn't ever really add much or think much about "girl" anime. Sometimes as a whole they think it's silly
The conversation about live action vs animated romance turned into a really great example of the differences in preferences that people have for different mediums with Garnt being for animated, Connor being for live action, and Joey being in the middle. A big reason I think that romance was a good angle to approach that conversation from is that it’s a genre where the more obvious strengths of animation don’t really shine and the limitations of live action aren’t really present so it’s more of a level playing field to discuss the fundamental strengths and weaknesses of both sides and what preferences you can have for each.
I don’t agree with his opinion on anime romance but I do agree with him on the advantages live action (pure) romances have over anime romance when it comes to body language.
My fav animated moment of what real romance is in dressup darling. The scene when the lights go out they hear the love making next to them but they get so lost in moment, u hear the breath, u see the soft motion of care, the slow but steady speed of going in for the kiss. Then the anime pops in and the phone rings! FUCK!!!!
I don’t agree with what they said about facial expressions and body language though. Some of the most expressive characters I’ve seen have been in anime.
Ayo bro you can' say that without referencing what they were debating: Western vs Anima romance, and how realistically fucked up should the relationships be
@@lupolinar Comment pops up, disappears, I rewind, I sneeze, message pops up and then disappears again. Pinpointing a second long scene is annoying to do on a phone.
Sanest anime fan. Who tf goes to anime for romance or slice of life when its done so much better in other media? I'll tell you who, big smelly dumb people
I appreciate Trash Taste switching to more focused topic episodes. I love the tangents and long convos, but keeping that up for every episode can't be easy.
It’s funny that Gnart was surprised Sydney watched Naruto when for me, Naruto being on there (and specifically THAT image used for it) was the dead giveaway. I don’t know what shows Sydney has seen or hasn’t seen, but she is EXACTLY that person who wore a Naruto headband to school in the late 2000’s and ran with her arms behind her back. Also, all the degen stuff on the 3x3. That’s all Sydney.
true. because real actors make my brain go "hmmm this is real world made with real people" but anime is like "this is a fiction made with fictional characters in a fictional world with no connection to reality" like you sometimes see"melting" character in anime and it's never out of place but put that in real life and see that turn into a horror show
@nicksegura9361 you have brain rot because how tf does a animated unrealistic highschool romance be more relatable than actual acting with real people anime is ruining your mind 🤦♂️
Joey's comment on Ano Hana is so real. I didn't watch when it came out, but since so many friends love it I decided to give it a go many many years later. It did nothing for me, but I always had that thought that I probably just lost that overall timming
What garnt was saying about actors vs something animated effected suspension of disbelief is something ive always felt about anything that ever gets a live action tbh
Welcome to the N.H.K is an incredibly real show, it’s quite hauntingly real and it’s one of the hardest hitting things you can ever watch. I feel like everyone should watch this at some point, it’s not just an anime, it’s an actual experience which can inspire you to change
Not many people even know about NHK and it deserves more attention. My younger brother who's 18 lists NHK as one of his top favorite series due to how raw and relatable it was.
What I think the show really does well is shows that everyone has some shit going on in their life. Even the "normal people" in the show are depressed, unhappy, or looking to find some type of meaning. That is how the show resonated with me.
@@zerorequiem42 Spoilers We find out in the end that was also suffering from mental health issues. She was craving the feeling of being wanted/needed and she got that from mc so she manipulated him. I think that's pretty legit plot point.
As someone who hasn’t seen a lot of these still I appreciate CDawg hosting this and getting the other two to elaborate. These last couple of eps are some of my favs Welcome to the NHK is a great series for anybody who has ever struggled with self-acceptance and demotivation, and is actually some of the only media I’ve ever come across that deals with this issue with kindness rather than judgment, while also being a hell of a trip
well, as mudan explained, his list is not finished without his reasoning. so it's not defense but clarification with extra steps bc somehow the bois didn't receive his notes as he stated on the screen
I can’t fault Joey and Garnt for this since they definitely only watched the anime, but it just pissed me off while so I’ll put this here. White Album 2 is considered a masterpiece in the VN world, in both the West and East. The anime only adapted the introductory chapter which is basically just the prologue that sets the story in its tracks. The writing is amazing, and the music is Chef Kiss. The writer of it is the same guy who wrote Saekano. Note, this is about White Album 2, and not 1.
the fact that they then complained (connor, specifically) about romance in japanese media with how they're supposedly afraid of making conflicts that stems from the relationship itself, how japanese media ain't good at depicting love triangle and everything else made it even more ironic lol. not their fault at all considering as you said, they probably only watched the anime, but it's just funny that the japanese romance they wanted to see is right there all along, and they shit on it lol.
Idk, a lot of people forget it, but in Toradora it does not start off as the main couple being together or even trying to, and the episode where Minori realizes Ryuji and Taiga just work better together and that it's heading that way, and she kinda breaks just sticks with me as one of those emotional scenes.
It's because all the anime discussed released in the golden era of anime, when tiktok didn't degrade people's minds about anime and Joey actually enjoyed watching anime
2:07:28 There is a Nausicaa Manga and it came first. The reason why the movie exists is because Miyazaki agreed to make the manga if he could make a movie about it. The manga itself is considered Miyazakis magnus opus and is actually much better than the movie.
I just slammed my fist on the table about Nausicaä not having a manga. It has a manga! It was originally a manga! Written and drawn by Miyazaki himself! I was actually disappointed with the movie not being nearly as deep and emotional as the original manga, but it's understandable because the manga is so long he wouldn't have been able to fit it all in the movie. The manga is so good. I'm especially disappointed in Joey for not even knowing about it. :'(
Also Miyazaki finished the manga after the film (I think when the film was realised, he only had written the first 3 volumes). He changed the planned end, because he realised that Nausicaa was too much a bland figure with a message he didnt agree with anymore.
I'm not super into shoujo, but I wish they had someone who can fight for shoujo stories bc some of them are genuinely good stories and the bois haven't watched it or assume Emily only likes it bc she relates to it lol
I agree with this comment but more on the side of slice of life and the "socially anxious anime girl" type shows Don't get me wrong though, there really needs to be someone who can come on and actually give them a real discussion about shoujo, cuz it gets kinda repetitive after a while when they cycle through all the battle shounen anime every couple episodes and I just have to nod my head cuz I don't watch any of them
@@alphakowaclipskaguya is a romance but it isn’t really a shoujo or at least I don’t consider it a shoujo and I don’t know anyone who considers it one and none of them are big fans of shoujo they only know popular ones or ones that used to be considered a “must watch” in the 2000s like fruits basket but none of them know a lot of the ones that are iconic for us shoujo fans like aikatsu pripara pretty rhythm (in terms of idol anime) or like mahou shoujo like sugar sugar rune saint tail pretear shugochara magical doremi kaitou jeanne jewelpet etc or romance like vampire knight kamisama hajimemashita special a ookami shoujo to kuro ouji skip beat itazura na kiss
@@sukottotsukeshi. I, for one, believe she didn't got roasted THAT hard. As for others, I'll them chime in on how much she got roasted or is it safer to say she got destroyed.
This is why I love Kare Kano. BEST ROMANCE MANGA. Although the characters get together rather quickly, they still have to deal with traumas, and also learn from their experiences of growing up and that not everything goes your way
The written scenario by Maruto Fumiaki for the White Album 2 (WA2) two-part visual novel was an absolute masterpiece. People tend to downplay WA2's reputation from only watching its anime adaption, but we should always remember adaptions almost-always lower the quality of any original source that exist out there, especially ones with a lot of dialogue (light novels, visual novel games). But WA2 is definitely one of the best pieces of Japanese romance literature that exists out there due to the mastering of character interaction, dialogue, and inner monologue when it comes to romantic feelings and conflicts of the visual novel game.
The anime adaption was perfectly fine and not of lower quality, just that it only contained the introductory chapter of the VN. Joey and Garnt just have no idea what they are talking about.
@@ChrisU2012 I am just a bit biased having read Maruto's JPN scenario 😅 Having to see a work be adapted into a whole different container (anime) and realistically omitting dialogue was kinda an oof to me. I am definitely not saying the anime is bad, it was definitely really good, it's just the quality was lowered compared to the VN
I concur. Cloverworks doing the best job that is to actually replicate the feeling and atmosphere of the manga. All the scores are original, the animation is crazy insane for a slice of life (480p looks like 4k in this show). They even have their own blue rays cover for each character episode. Crazy man
Joey saying he has never seen or heard of Akazukin Chacha actually surprises me. I remember as a really young kid watching this show in Taiwan (we used to have popular kids anime dubbed into Mandarin, probably still do, IDK) and so much of it is ingrained in my memory to the point that I randomly remembered this anime about a month ago with no prompt.
Don't know when I first remembered watching it, but I definitely remembering watching it on TH-cam at one point. Part of it is due to the parts debacle (1, 2 and 3) being so prominent. It wasn't till later when I could actually finish it by using certain websites.
Hold on to your seats... not just the Vinland Saga author was inspired by Wickie the Viking to make Vinland Saga... Oda was ALSO inspired by Wickie the Viking to make One Piece! This fact still blows my mind after years since I never knew that show was so popular in Japan. I saw it as a little kid in German television. It was a dope show for children and for its time. It was made by a Japanese animation studio from which Nippon Animation was later on formed. So it was made by a Japanese animation studio for German speaking television but they obviously also aired it with a Japanese dub in Japan which is why these two probably also saw it back then. Ngl the fact that a childrens cartoon that was produced for the German TV network ZDF and Austrian TV network ORF (state funded TV channels) inspired these goated Japanese authors to make these masterpieces makes me more proud to be German than anything else in this world. And I don't really feel patriotic about anything else. Also massive props to the Swedish author, Runer Jonsson, who wrote the original series of children's books which were then adapted into the German cartoon series produced by the Japanese. Just a really wild collab.
I thought I was one of the only people who's actually seen Earth Maiden Arjuna. It's absolutely not for everyone because it's very, very out there conceptually. But Kevin is absolutely right, the OST is goated. Yoko Kanno did an absolutely fantastic job. You have melancholy piano pieces, high tempo ominous chanting, hype battle themes, it's got everything.
So happy to see Kare Kano on someone's list! I wish I watched it earlier to experience nostalgia but I still enjoyed it a lot even though I watched it later. The wacky animation towards the end was def memorable lol
1:43:30 it's actually fairly easy to work this out, gases have pre-calcd levels at which they're explosive so you just need to apply that level to the volume of the average classroom.
@@Seven69297it has become a bit too casual in some of the non anime podcasts. That's pretty understandable, they have been doing this for 4 years each week. At some point you will run out of food and TH-cam/content creator topics. Honestly, many of us still like the anime talk.
A real point to Conner about Hajime No Ippo: You will grow to love Ippo, but also his Gym mates and the opponents they face. The enemies are super well written and if they arent one offs they stick around and get further developments. Its long but its so worth it.
Immediately guessed Kevin Penkin's because he's probably the one great Earth Maiden Arjuna stan left on the planet and I respect that dedication immensely; and frankly, as the boys said, even if I weren't familiar with this fact, that nearly every show and film on there has a truly immaculate soundtrack and the one outlier is a very memorable and compelling entry in the animated dumpster fire canon would have tipped me off immediately. Also, conflict of interest or not, Made in Abyss is god-tier and he *should* be proud to have worked on it, let alone to have created one of the most iconic soundtracks in the medium. Extremely based chart. P.S. Shinkai has actually talked in interviews about how the very strange, perfunctory romance plotline in Suzume was a bit of malicious compliance on his part: He had floated a couple of ideas for films without his trademark angsty heterosexual romance plotting, whether devoid of romance entirely or exploring a lesbian relationship, and his producers shot him down under the belief that it wouldn't be marketable, so he decided to turn the male love interest into a literal piece of furniture and sideline him for most of the film.
I always thought about how this would make a great idea for an episode for the longest time. and i'am so happy that Trash Taste made this episode a reality
It's refreshing to see Akazukin Chacha being mentioned. It's a pretty fun, relaxing, fantasy anime with a weird quirk on their magical girl thingy. Iirc the world building is pretty interesting as well. It's an ancient gem.
Record of Lodoss War was one of the animes that got me into the hobby. I was reading The Hobbit as a kid and just getting into Tolkien when Lodoss War was recommended to me. It instantly clicked for me and drew me further into loving the fantasy genre too. Also Deedlit is indeed the OG elf waifu.
The last 3x3 is definitely the best one here. Just straight good taste. It also has Lodoss War which is actually based on a D&D campaign the writer did in the 80s, and it was a multimedia project with games, and light novels that came out before the anime did. There is tons of RPGs for the PC-98, the PC Engine and SNES. It's really cool to see how a D&D campaign became an entire multimedia franchise like that.
The thing about Suzume is that (apparently) he never meant to include romance. The chair guy was supposed to be a female friend but (apparently) the executives wanted romance because that's what made Your Name so successful. I agree with Garnt that the romance threw the story off. Movie might've been a masterpiece without the romance tbh
I don’t feel the same. It was definitely the weakest romance of his last 3 movies but I didn’t feel it detracted from anything. It’s just the first one where it wasn’t a plus. All that said, I would have preferred the female be the older character (forgot his name).
1:49:18 YAAAAS AKAZUKIN CHACHAAA!! as a filo who watches anime during 90's chacha is one of my fav anime rushing going home from school just to watch chacha(ph dub)
Mudan using his editor powers to defend himself was pretty great.
Ikr I'm glad they forgot to check the notes. It was pretty hilarious
Mudan notes
Almost counts as second Mudan episode.
Editorial privileges.
Your sins are not forgiven Mudan.
Second anime episode in a row? Must be taking a toll on the boys.
Just getting it out of the way for the rest of the year
Beat me to it
At this rate people are gonna think this is an anime podcast 😅
BTS clip to them coughing up blood after recording.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
Mudan popping up the briefest shot of La La Land during the romance talk, and then defending himself when they are going over his list, I need this man on another episode.
time stamp. i put this in the background so couldn't catch any of mudans notes
45:10 ?
Ngl the more I rewatch La La Land the more mid it feels. To the point that recently it feels more like a parody than an earnest film.
The first time I watched it, in theaters when I was 17, it was my movie of the year. The complex reality of adult relationships, old movie references, I ate that shit up.
Now at 24 it comes off as overly trite and preachy. Trying too hard to be deeper than it is.
It didn't help that I'd always thought the buildup part of the romance was lacking. And they spent 70% of the runtime on it! 😂 Mind you it was the type of movie where they really needed to sell the romance for it to work. If the audience doesn't believe that their love is real, the rest of the movie loses its meaning. The whole movie would be rendered pointless. And the moviemakers knew that, which is why they very deliberately kept the focus on the romantic relationship the ENTIRE TIME and nothing else... Yet I still had no idea why the characters loved each other!
So you see why it feels simultaneously overwrought and under-delivered, like a parody of the "romance for romance's sake" trope in Hollywood filmmaking.
@@destituteanddecadent9106I never was felt like La La Land was trying to be deep, sounds like you had a you thing when you watched it as a teenager
@@KingMinish I wouldn't necessarily say it was trying to be deep; it's not exactly M Night Shyamalan. But it definitely was trying to be profound in an Oscar baity way.
It wanted to have both substance and style, ended up having little style and no substance.
"This is a lie" is hands down the best edit Mudan has ever done for this podcast
Ikr😂
He should just put that every time the boys get their facts wrong lmao
timestamp pls?
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Kaho's English is genuinely so masterful to a point where she conveys her thoughts more eloquently than many native English speaking classmates I've had
Definitely more eloquently than our three apes hahaha!
Also boobs
She sounded like a professional reviewer.
this cannot be understated.
I don't remember the actual quote and I can't find the exact clip, but I remember a Kaho quote saying something like "I'm not so eloquent in English, but at least I know the word 'eloquent'". Pretty sure she used another word rather than "eloquent" but it was one with a similar meaning and I think an even more complicated word.
I thought for a second they’d somehow gotten Charlie on a plane
I mean in his episode they flew to him iirc so not necessarily
Charlie's fear of flying will not allow for it to happen.
LMAO same
Pfff itd be a boat 🤪
I got clickbaited and I'm not even mad about it 😂❤
41:03 In defense of Shinkai, there was an interview where he said Suzume wasn't originally intended to be a "boy-meets-girl" romance, but his producer told him to make it that way due to audience expectations. It's why Souta is a chair for most of the movie - because Shinkai, in an act of rebellion, wanted to make something else the focal point of the movie.
In that sense, the criticism that Shinkai can only make the same movie is kind of ironic
And honestly, with the way it ends, it can be interpreted a multitude of ways, which i think was pretty cool. Like its obvious that they're super important to each other and love each other (platonically, romantically, or in some pther way) but anything more than that isn't defined, and i thought that was kind of nice. Felt wholesome in a way? Or maybe just heartwarming
I still feel it was better than tenki no ko.
@@thelordoftheweebs9501 Idk, Weathering With You had such a unique magic to it, and just felt like a celebration of Your Names' success. The characters, music and art were all a step up from YN imo, but then again I watched it on release in the cinema and the audience's involvement to the film really added to the enjoyment of it
Well dang this should be the top comment. Thanks for telling us.
@OK-mv4ih I mean I just think story wise suzume was better. I do like te ki no ko. The art and animation was great. The drama was good. I just don't really vibe with the whole sacrifice thing. It just felt like an idea that sounded good but had no way of resolving it.
They werent joking things really changed in the new year, TWO anime themed episodes in a row?!
GeeXPlus aiming a gun off camera
They've been losing lots of views and they were getting stagnant so they had to step up, they used to get 1 mil views within a week and now barely get 700k a month
@@alphakowaclips honestly 700-800 k for a podcast this length is good. The million views was during the lockdown period.
@@parishsirius I agree but up to 7 months ago they were getting 1 mi views which wasnt Lockdown
@@parishsirius i wouldnt consider early last year to be lockdown but ok
I love how committed Garnt is at explaining the Tezuka Zone, how is he not laughiing.
Just like the ball, Garnt will never escape the Tezuka Zone.
ngl never thought id say that but anime centric episodes are really refreshing and i found myself enjoying them a lot, bringing them back once in a while is a great idea
13:24 babe wake up ! another perfectly syncronized Garnt and Joey moment just dropped
yessssssssssssssssssss was looking for this.... yey
Just went looking for this 😂
Wtf LOOOL
Them talking about romance moves where it devolves and Mudan just slowly putting LaLa Land in the frame was comedic gold LOL 45:10
Hot take, La La Land didn't work in the way it was intended. The buildup of the romance didn't sell me on why the two loved each other. So obviously the devolvement arc had much less of an impact since, y'know, it never really was a great love to begin with. It took itself so seriously that it ended up being ironically funny.
@destituteanddecadent9106
I liked la la land but pretty much only because of the music and the visuals
Characters and plot was forgettable
Garnt and Joey with the perfect stereo sound syncing at 13:24 is amazing 😂
another matrix moment
i love how they somehow always accidentally sync up
THEY HARMONIZED !
Just heard this and had to check the comments 😂
It was the re-merging of their brain cell after it diverged over White Album 2.
Connors Take on Romance Anime and how Japanese media depicts romance and relationships is probably the best opinion he’s had on this show yet
44:00 The movie Connor is talking is *The vow* with Channing Tatum and Rachel McAdams, the movie is about a married couple, they had an accident and the girl looses her memories including him, so the guy does everything that's possible to make her fall in love with him one more time and remember their moments together while many mysteries from her family come to light. It's a really good story
1:02:10 Joey's expression as Connor talks about JJK is hilarious.
Came here just to look for a comment about it
I was thinking the same thing 😂
OMFG his face was priceless 😂😂 wanted to take so much shit I'm sure
It’s cause he realized he was proven wrong about it
Ptsd kicks in
Kevin putting his own show on his list is fantastic.
Mudan :"every second of watching it is pain"
Lmao
I do like the reasoning. But is it worth watching it to make you enjoy everything else more.
@@reach268I guess
"Why are you hitting yourself in the head with a hammer?"
"Because it feels so good when I stop!"
The way Fruits Basket is almost never discussed is making me so sad 😭 it was next in line in the MAL top list of the last episode too and they skipped it!
I guess they just dont like it. I remember them roasting emily because she likes FB
@@DA-qn3id It's the most ridiculous thing because it's my favorite and it's literally about rebuilding and healing after trauma, and for some reason these guys just don't get it? Do they think it's some feel-good series? What is going on? No one is truly "happy" in the end, because they all have their own stuff they have had to deal with, they just have connections now that help them deal with it better.
@@camajakIts an anime made for girls. Men don't watch it
@@camajak I don't think Connor ever watched it, but Joey loves Fruits Basket but I'm not sure about Garnt. I don't know what that other guy is saying about them making fun of Emily.
Connor has a prejudice with shoujo and magic girl stuff, anything girl he doesn't like or even try to like. I feel like out of the 3 the one whos more open to shoujo and different perspective on things with zero prejudice would be Joey but everytime he tries to go along a shoujo conversation connor shuts it down and grant doesn't ever really add much or think much about "girl" anime. Sometimes as a whole they think it's silly
Mushishi makes the small tragedies of life and their impact in communities so goddamn compelling.
I also think mushishi also highlights the mystery and wonder of the world well.
and humanities relationship with nature
The conversation about live action vs animated romance turned into a really great example of the differences in preferences that people have for different mediums with Garnt being for animated, Connor being for live action, and Joey being in the middle. A big reason I think that romance was a good angle to approach that conversation from is that it’s a genre where the more obvious strengths of animation don’t really shine and the limitations of live action aren’t really present so it’s more of a level playing field to discuss the fundamental strengths and weaknesses of both sides and what preferences you can have for each.
I don’t agree with his opinion on anime romance but I do agree with him on the advantages live action (pure) romances have over anime romance when it comes to body language.
My fav animated moment of what real romance is in dressup darling. The scene when the lights go out they hear the love making next to them but they get so lost in moment, u hear the breath, u see the soft motion of care, the slow but steady speed of going in for the kiss. Then the anime pops in and the phone rings! FUCK!!!!
I don’t agree with what they said about facial expressions and body language though. Some of the most expressive characters I’ve seen have been in anime.
@@matthewlugo2417 where is this moment in the anime ?
@hussainadnan5694 hmmm ep 5 or 7 i think i cant remember at the top of my head
Can never say no to an anime themed episode!!!
They HAD to be meme-ing when Connor and Garnt were having a debate, and then Joey chimed in and said "you know, I'm somewhere in the middle" 😭
I mean, he is literally sitting between those two.
Ayo bro you can' say that without referencing what they were debating: Western vs Anima romance, and how realistically fucked up should the relationships be
Timestamp
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Joey baffles me sometimes when it comes to his points
As a german i stand here to tell you vicki the viking was peak childhood
This makes me want to see a 3-girl group Taste where it's led by Kaho with Sydney and Emily. See how that goes...
Same, Emily and Kaho probably had two of my favorite lists. Love that someone represented Fruits Basket and Nichijou!
From what I've seen from their 3X3, they unirnoically have better taste than these three fucking idiots.
Mudan’s notes need to be on screen for 1-2 seconds longer, he has comments worth reading.
Absolutely
You can pause, you know - it is not linear television.
@@lupolinar Comment pops up, disappears, I rewind, I sneeze, message pops up and then disappears again. Pinpointing a second long scene is annoying to do on a phone.
Yea it's annoying having to pause every time he does it
And not be in 3fps
At this rate, Trash Taste will turn into an anime podcast
I’m all for it
Not gonna happen no way
Once the phase is over Animerica exists. Discontinued but still there.
Doubt it. Converting it into an anime podcast would make it too restrictive.
@@shyguy5473I can't tell if you're serious or this is very clever sarcasm
Charlie's anime are just "MAN MAN OOGA BOOGA"
Did he just forget JoJo?
@@Abhishek0S it wasn't on the 3x3 because charlie is a straight man. the Jojo fandom didn't earn the "unsucked cock" meme for no reason. come on now.
@@Abhishek0S wow I cant believe he left off JOJO and included Dragonball.
Sanest anime fan. Who tf goes to anime for romance or slice of life when its done so much better in other media? I'll tell you who, big smelly dumb people
@@Abhishek0S no way he just forgot it. It's probably a clear message that he's "moved on" or sth.
I appreciate Trash Taste switching to more focused topic episodes. I love the tangents and long convos, but keeping that up for every episode can't be easy.
It’s funny that Gnart was surprised Sydney watched Naruto when for me, Naruto being on there (and specifically THAT image used for it) was the dead giveaway. I don’t know what shows Sydney has seen or hasn’t seen, but she is EXACTLY that person who wore a Naruto headband to school in the late 2000’s and ran with her arms behind her back.
Also, all the degen stuff on the 3x3. That’s all Sydney.
His name is Gurnt
pretty sure it's grant
pretty sure it nGart
I didnt expect to see Joey fearlessly defending the notebook, but here we are 😂
The fruits basket fandom stands with you Emily ! We all wanna be Tohru……minus the trauma.
Garnt talking about how real actors bringing him out of the story even more is surprisingly relatable.
true. because real actors make my brain go "hmmm this is real world made with real people" but anime is like "this is a fiction made with fictional characters in a fictional world with no connection to reality" like you sometimes see"melting" character in anime and it's never out of place but put that in real life and see that turn into a horror show
Yeah, no. But I’m biased because I love film.
@nicksegura9361 you have brain rot because how tf does a animated unrealistic highschool romance be more relatable than actual acting with real people anime is ruining your mind 🤦♂️
@@crazyhawk3650 the shows themselves aren’t more relatable in the slightest, I’m saying his take itself is relatable.
Joey's comment on Ano Hana is so real.
I didn't watch when it came out, but since so many friends love it I decided to give it a go many many years later. It did nothing for me, but I always had that thought that I probably just lost that overall timming
What garnt was saying about actors vs something animated effected suspension of disbelief is something ive always felt about anything that ever gets a live action tbh
Welcome to the N.H.K is an incredibly real show, it’s quite hauntingly real and it’s one of the hardest hitting things you can ever watch. I feel like everyone should watch this at some point, it’s not just an anime, it’s an actual experience which can inspire you to change
Not many people even know about NHK and it deserves more attention.
My younger brother who's 18 lists NHK as one of his top favorite series due to how raw and relatable it was.
You know you're fucked in life when you can find this show relatable. Atleast that's how i felt when i watched it..
What I think the show really does well is shows that everyone has some shit going on in their life. Even the "normal people" in the show are depressed, unhappy, or looking to find some type of meaning. That is how the show resonated with me.
It's good, but never found the girl believable or real. Just used as a plot progression point is how I remember her.
@@zerorequiem42 Spoilers
We find out in the end that was also suffering from mental health issues. She was craving the feeling of being wanted/needed and she got that from mc so she manipulated him. I think that's pretty legit plot point.
As someone who hasn’t seen a lot of these still I appreciate CDawg hosting this and getting the other two to elaborate. These last couple of eps are some of my favs
Welcome to the NHK is a great series for anybody who has ever struggled with self-acceptance and demotivation, and is actually some of the only media I’ve ever come across that deals with this issue with kindness rather than judgment, while also being a hell of a trip
The boys don't talk about anime often but when they do the episode is a banger
Their food and poop episodes are banger too.
Omg mudan is hilarious.
I wish there was a non intrusive humm sound to notify people when mudan’s card pop up so I don’t miss a single one of them.
There is so much love for Mushishi. Such a cathartic feeling 💚
That synchronised “uhm” at 13:24😂
They're never beating the Matrix allegations
And the tones were in harmony as well :,D
Same brain cell 🤣🤣🤣🤣
and the double "what?" when Connor was bringing up Kaho's reasoning for her pick.
Mudan breaking the 4th wall to defend his takes with the boys in the background. Funniest stuff🤣
well, as mudan explained, his list is not finished without his reasoning. so it's not defense but clarification with extra steps bc somehow the bois didn't receive his notes as he stated on the screen
I can’t fault Joey and Garnt for this since they definitely only watched the anime, but it just pissed me off while so I’ll put this here. White Album 2 is considered a masterpiece in the VN world, in both the West and East. The anime only adapted the introductory chapter which is basically just the prologue that sets the story in its tracks. The writing is amazing, and the music is Chef Kiss. The writer of it is the same guy who wrote Saekano. Note, this is about White Album 2, and not 1.
wait there was a 1? i thought that was an urban legend. i have never heard anyone mention about the 1
the fact that they then complained (connor, specifically) about romance in japanese media with how they're supposedly afraid of making conflicts that stems from the relationship itself, how japanese media ain't good at depicting love triangle and everything else made it even more ironic lol.
not their fault at all considering as you said, they probably only watched the anime, but it's just funny that the japanese romance they wanted to see is right there all along, and they shit on it lol.
I believe what the anime they've describe is the first White Album it was a car crash Romance show
@@hijiriyukari Doesn't seem like it since they brought it up on google images and weren't confused.
@@ArchiAtsuki2 Hey personally I loved both WA2 and Saekano. Saekano is basically what Garnt describes he liked about Oreimo, but actually good.
I had no idea Kaho had such immaculate taste, easily the best one here.
Idk, a lot of people forget it, but in Toradora it does not start off as the main couple being together or even trying to, and the episode where Minori realizes Ryuji and Taiga just work better together and that it's heading that way, and she kinda breaks just sticks with me as one of those emotional scenes.
Holy crap the Mudan bit was amazing. I love his cards. He's pretty much a 4th podcaster at this point
Joey has such positive and wholesome aura about him this episode
Agreed he definitely had an extra expresso shot or it wasn’t filmed at night
😮😮😮😮😮 Joey being positive and it isn't covid
It's because all the anime discussed released in the golden era of anime, when tiktok didn't degrade people's minds about anime and Joey actually enjoyed watching anime
@@OK-mv4ih There are animes released today that I think are just as good as the golden age but Joey doesnt bother looking and watching them
2:07:28 There is a Nausicaa Manga and it came first. The reason why the movie exists is because Miyazaki agreed to make the manga if he could make a movie about it. The manga itself is considered Miyazakis magnus opus and is actually much better than the movie.
The manga started before, and then continued far later than the anime (Miyazaki changed the ending)
The moment I heard this I was baffled that the boys didn't know about it. It's so much better and more detailed than the film.
No Garnts explanation on why he can't get into live action romance is exactly how I feel too
I just slammed my fist on the table about Nausicaä not having a manga. It has a manga! It was originally a manga! Written and drawn by Miyazaki himself! I was actually disappointed with the movie not being nearly as deep and emotional as the original manga, but it's understandable because the manga is so long he wouldn't have been able to fit it all in the movie. The manga is so good.
I'm especially disappointed in Joey for not even knowing about it. :'(
Also Miyazaki finished the manga after the film (I think when the film was realised, he only had written the first 3 volumes).
He changed the planned end, because he realised that Nausicaa was too much a bland figure with a message he didnt agree with anymore.
Yeah I know, it made me quite upset as well lol. You think you'd look it up before making a statement about how you wish there was a manga lmao
I'm not super into shoujo, but I wish they had someone who can fight for shoujo stories bc some of them are genuinely good stories and the bois haven't watched it or assume Emily only likes it bc she relates to it lol
Joey is a fan of shoujo, and they just talked about how they liked kaguya
I agree with this comment but more on the side of slice of life and the "socially anxious anime girl" type shows
Don't get me wrong though, there really needs to be someone who can come on and actually give them a real discussion about shoujo, cuz it gets kinda repetitive after a while when they cycle through all the battle shounen anime every couple episodes and I just have to nod my head cuz I don't watch any of them
@@alphakowaclipsKaguya sama is a Seinen though
Shoujo adaptations are mostly low tier.
@@alphakowaclipskaguya is a romance but it isn’t really a shoujo or at least I don’t consider it a shoujo and I don’t know anyone who considers it one and none of them are big fans of shoujo they only know popular ones or ones that used to be considered a “must watch” in the 2000s like fruits basket but none of them know a lot of the ones that are iconic for us shoujo fans like aikatsu pripara pretty rhythm (in terms of idol anime) or like mahou shoujo like sugar sugar rune saint tail pretear shugochara magical doremi kaitou jeanne jewelpet etc or romance like vampire knight kamisama hajimemashita special a ookami shoujo to kuro ouji skip beat itazura na kiss
I just know Daidus is going to get roasted so hard 🤣
What about Emily
@@sukottotsukeshi. I, for one, believe she didn't got roasted THAT hard. As for others, I'll them chime in on how much she got roasted or is it safer to say she got destroyed.
Making Connor look like he hasn't seen any anime haha
Mudan's commentary was perfection. They deserved to get noted, and they did.
White album 2 is soooo good, but when you finish it you want to shared this feeling with someone and see their heart get broken it's so relaxing
This is why I love Kare Kano. BEST ROMANCE MANGA.
Although the characters get together rather quickly, they still have to deal with traumas, and also learn from their experiences of growing up and that not everything goes your way
Hell yes, absolutely love kare kano
The written scenario by Maruto Fumiaki for the White Album 2 (WA2) two-part visual novel was an absolute masterpiece. People tend to downplay WA2's reputation from only watching its anime adaption, but we should always remember adaptions almost-always lower the quality of any original source that exist out there, especially ones with a lot of dialogue (light novels, visual novel games). But WA2 is definitely one of the best pieces of Japanese romance literature that exists out there due to the mastering of character interaction, dialogue, and inner monologue when it comes to romantic feelings and conflicts of the visual novel game.
The anime adaption was perfectly fine and not of lower quality, just that it only contained the introductory chapter of the VN. Joey and Garnt just have no idea what they are talking about.
@@ChrisU2012 I am just a bit biased having read Maruto's JPN scenario 😅 Having to see a work be adapted into a whole different container (anime) and realistically omitting dialogue was kinda an oof to me. I am definitely not saying the anime is bad, it was definitely really good, it's just the quality was lowered compared to the VN
“Fuck, that’s why he’s The Anime Man.” 😂
Two anime episodes and Joey brought back "Let's Fight". Love it.
Kaho is goated for having Akebi-chan no sailor uniform. I honestly haven’t seen anyone talking about this fantastic show.
I concur. Cloverworks doing the best job that is to actually replicate the feeling and atmosphere of the manga. All the scores are original, the animation is crazy insane for a slice of life (480p looks like 4k in this show). They even have their own blue rays cover for each character episode. Crazy man
Joey saying he has never seen or heard of Akazukin Chacha actually surprises me. I remember as a really young kid watching this show in Taiwan (we used to have popular kids anime dubbed into Mandarin, probably still do, IDK) and so much of it is ingrained in my memory to the point that I randomly remembered this anime about a month ago with no prompt.
Don't know when I first remembered watching it, but I definitely remembering watching it on TH-cam at one point. Part of it is due to the parts debacle (1, 2 and 3) being so prominent. It wasn't till later when I could actually finish it by using certain websites.
It’s big in southeast asia aswell, my older siblings that don’t watch anime knows this Akazukin Chacha
No wonder this name sounds familiar despite never seen it before. Checked and found out it aired in Taiwan on the year I was born 😂
It was also aired in Indonesia. I think they also dubbed it in Bahasa.
Hold on to your seats... not just the Vinland Saga author was inspired by Wickie the Viking to make Vinland Saga...
Oda was ALSO inspired by Wickie the Viking to make One Piece!
This fact still blows my mind after years since I never knew that show was so popular in Japan. I saw it as a little kid in German television. It was a dope show for children and for its time. It was made by a Japanese animation studio from which Nippon Animation was later on formed. So it was made by a Japanese animation studio for German speaking television but they obviously also aired it with a Japanese dub in Japan which is why these two probably also saw it back then.
Ngl the fact that a childrens cartoon that was produced for the German TV network ZDF and Austrian TV network ORF (state funded TV channels) inspired these goated Japanese authors to make these masterpieces makes me more proud to be German than anything else in this world. And I don't really feel patriotic about anything else.
Also massive props to the Swedish author, Runer Jonsson, who wrote the original series of children's books which were then adapted into the German cartoon series produced by the Japanese. Just a really wild collab.
I mean it is an amazing show and has an amazing opening 🤣
ok
Back to back anime content this either a treat or we aint seeing anime content for a hot minute
I am guessing it would be anime episodes for a few weeks and other shit for a few weeks.
I thought I was one of the only people who's actually seen Earth Maiden Arjuna. It's absolutely not for everyone because it's very, very out there conceptually.
But Kevin is absolutely right, the OST is goated. Yoko Kanno did an absolutely fantastic job. You have melancholy piano pieces, high tempo ominous chanting, hype battle themes, it's got everything.
So happy to see Kare Kano on someone's list! I wish I watched it earlier to experience nostalgia but I still enjoyed it a lot even though I watched it later. The wacky animation towards the end was def memorable lol
45:16 needs to be nominated for out of context clip next year please 😂
Casshern Sins was a great anime. This gal enjoyed and cried and binged that show
Kaho and Shindo being indistinguishable from one another is so perfect, clearly the one who ordered these knew what they were doing.
BRUH💀
But damn kaho really is an anime fan
@@sukottotsukeshi.Shindo L probably too considering his skillset
And it makes sense they both have ties with the adult industry
41:30 joey was just bewildered. he was flabbergasted when connor said no
1:43:30 it's actually fairly easy to work this out, gases have pre-calcd levels at which they're explosive so you just need to apply that level to the volume of the average classroom.
Kaho having Akazukin Chacha gave me a wave of memories.
Trash taste on their redemption arc with back to back interesting topical episodes
People been complaining lately about the podcast getting dry and repetitive but ngl I've never felt that. I've consistently enjoyed their episodes
Apparently interesting = I like anime so talk more about anime. I'm like that too, but I'm not pretending otherwise.
@@Seven69297it has become a bit too casual in some of the non anime podcasts.
That's pretty understandable, they have been doing this for 4 years each week. At some point you will run out of food and TH-cam/content creator topics.
Honestly, many of us still like the anime talk.
@@Seven69297exactly....
Unironicly Bobobo is one of the funniest things every and if anyone of you wants to try, watch it stoned. I havent watched it sober. Its rly rly fun
Inuyasha isn't an isekai, the well transports Kagome back in time by 500 years. She doesn't go to a different world, she just goes back in time afaik.
Who else thinks that based on his description of what he wants in a romance, that Connor would like "Nana"?
50/50, honestly.
I think he might like Nana. Especially the manga. The relationships are pretty depressing. 😂
Seeing Kare Kano being represented makes me so happy! Kaho is goated in my books
What is this all of a sudden? An anime podcast? Unpossible!
Impossible*
You just coined a word “Unpossible”…ayo WTF?
@@laboon344 Non-possible*
@laboon344 did he stutter?
It's not. Don't fall into the trap. It's a podcast about food and shitting
It took us 4 years but here we are, we're finally getting the real anime podcast experience
A real point to Conner about Hajime No Ippo: You will grow to love Ippo, but also his Gym mates and the opponents they face. The enemies are super well written and if they arent one offs they stick around and get further developments. Its long but its so worth it.
im so happy they talked so nicely about Zankyou no Terror, that anime and it's soundtrack changed my life
Immediately guessed Kevin Penkin's because he's probably the one great Earth Maiden Arjuna stan left on the planet and I respect that dedication immensely; and frankly, as the boys said, even if I weren't familiar with this fact, that nearly every show and film on there has a truly immaculate soundtrack and the one outlier is a very memorable and compelling entry in the animated dumpster fire canon would have tipped me off immediately. Also, conflict of interest or not, Made in Abyss is god-tier and he *should* be proud to have worked on it, let alone to have created one of the most iconic soundtracks in the medium. Extremely based chart.
P.S. Shinkai has actually talked in interviews about how the very strange, perfunctory romance plotline in Suzume was a bit of malicious compliance on his part: He had floated a couple of ideas for films without his trademark angsty heterosexual romance plotting, whether devoid of romance entirely or exploring a lesbian relationship, and his producers shot him down under the belief that it wouldn't be marketable, so he decided to turn the male love interest into a literal piece of furniture and sideline him for most of the film.
WHITE ALBUM 2 BEING MENTIONED HAD BEEN THE HAPPIEST MOMENT IN MY LIFE
I always thought about how this would make a great idea for an episode for the longest time. and i'am so happy that Trash Taste made this episode a reality
It's refreshing to see Akazukin Chacha being mentioned. It's a pretty fun, relaxing, fantasy anime with a weird quirk on their magical girl thingy. Iirc the world building is pretty interesting as well. It's an ancient gem.
Record of Lodoss War was one of the animes that got me into the hobby. I was reading The Hobbit as a kid and just getting into Tolkien when Lodoss War was recommended to me. It instantly clicked for me and drew me further into loving the fantasy genre too. Also Deedlit is indeed the OG elf waifu.
What hobby?
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme anime
Always a pleasure when we get another anime video from the Trash Taste gentlemen. Great way to start the weekend!!
Thank you for uploading this right as I’m about to have a shower 🙏🙏🙏
Hey, we’re taking a shower at the same time!
Shower gang rise up
@@ShadowOfMassDestruction frr
I would be really mad that my yearly shower is interrupted by a banger
I would be, if I actually took showers
Joey literally smiling and nodding his head during the jjk part is just scary
Wym? Is he famously not a fan of JJK or something?
@@destituteanddecadent9106he has said and rode the opinion of “jjk is just okay” or “jjk is mid”
Nothing's wrong with thinking that a show is just ok. @@kota69420
@@kota69420 I am 100% sure he hasn't seen season 2 yet considering he barely watches anime these days
Not scary just annoying af
I love how mudan came in like the narrator and says "HE LIED" in a deep ass voice lol
Vicky the Viking is also a huge inspiration for Oda when writing One Piece!
I love how mudan had to fact check that he doesnt like handshakers
The last 3x3 is definitely the best one here. Just straight good taste. It also has Lodoss War which is actually based on a D&D campaign the writer did in the 80s, and it was a multimedia project with games, and light novels that came out before the anime did. There is tons of RPGs for the PC-98, the PC Engine and SNES. It's really cool to see how a D&D campaign became an entire multimedia franchise like that.
He should change his name from ShindoL to ShindoW
@@Ash_Wen-li I didn't expect this joke 😆
Hinamatsuri is legitimately one of the funniest shows in the last decade.
Agreed !!
Mudan’s explanation on Hand Shakers just made me cry it so hilarious
Gotta love Mudan for explaining his choices mid video, I see you bro I respect
Didn't expect Arjuna to be on a list. One of my favorites I remember watching back in the early 00's on demand via the Anime Network.
The thing about Suzume is that (apparently) he never meant to include romance. The chair guy was supposed to be a female friend but (apparently) the executives wanted romance because that's what made Your Name so successful. I agree with Garnt that the romance threw the story off. Movie might've been a masterpiece without the romance tbh
That's so fucked up, I too think romance just didn't belong in his last movie (and I'm big sucker for both Your Name and Withering)
I didn't mind the romance though. It was still paced well and I had a lot of fun with it.
Do you have that link to Shankai's interview
I don’t feel the same. It was definitely the weakest romance of his last 3 movies but I didn’t feel it detracted from anything. It’s just the first one where it wasn’t a plus.
All that said, I would have preferred the female be the older character (forgot his name).
1:49:18 YAAAAS AKAZUKIN CHACHAAA!! as a filo who watches anime during 90's chacha is one of my fav anime rushing going home from school just to watch chacha(ph dub)
Fellow Filipino and yeah nostalgia blast. Team Shiine
Hell yea, Akazukin Chacha love lets goooo. Kimi Iro Omoi such a great opening too
4:26 the disgrace to Gundam seed I love it and have seen other Gundam shows as well it’s still one of my favorites
broooo i’m so glad One Outs was mentioned!