The Most Controversial Anime Takes (ft.
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00:00:00 The biggest anime fan we've had yet
00:01:27 Hasan used to draw
00:03:56 Dragonball hasn't aged well
00:05:59 Turkey didn't have any anime besides Captain Tsubasa
00:07:42 What show made Hasan an anime fan
00:10:46 Japan and intellectual property
00:11:44 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
00:13:45 Favorite JoJo part
00:16:26 One Piece is highly political
00:24:02 Vinland Saga
00:33:08 Interesting things in JoJo
00:35:34 Samurai Champloo
00:38:22 Nothing in Japan fits Hasan
00:41:45 Baki
00:43:39 Vessi
00:44:52 BetterHelp
00:46:10 Attack on Titan is a mecha show
00:53:39 Why is Zelda 17
00:56:24 What shows doesn't Hasan like
01:01:05 Hunter x Hunter
01:06:29 The women in One Piece
01:13:11 Durarara
01:17:36 Is anime political
01:20:17 Grammarly
01:21:29 Hasan's favorite anime
01:23:07 Does Hasan watch adult cartoons
01:28:43 Somebody has to stop the censoring
01:39:04 Hasan doesn't understand how Japan works
01:46:36 There's so much paper
01:50:24 Convenience stores are cracked
01:52:44 Hasan feels like an idiot
02:02:15 Hasan's favorite patron
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Here come the "first" mfs
Can't wait for the respectful comments under this video.
love your podcasts
You're welcome
I AM NOT A WEEB!!!!!!!!!!😅
too late, the truth is out
Roight roight
Copium
So when you fighting Sam Hyde?
bro was the biggest weeb on the pod literally and figuratively.
Actually, 2 pregnant women fighting over diapers at Walmart is a flesh-mecha.
But the baby isn’t in control of the mother?
@@theturtle8869
Those hormonal flashes man
LOOOOOOL
You might be correct tho 🤔
Hmm you're into something here 🤔
Hasan: "So Attack on Titan..."
Oh, he's gonna talk about how political it is, the fascist imagery and all that...
Hasan: "...is a mecha anime."
Aaand the anime community goes apeshit.
Weird how it counts as controversial, because Mother's Basement also said the same thing (and everyone seems to love him), dunno which of them said it first tho
This argument is literally a “dumplings are ravioli” argument - technically true if you want it to be.
@@MichelleD2023 I dunno, there's a part that Hasan says that's on point, about the kind of stories common in mecha animes that you also see in AoT.
@@Diego-zz1df deadass all mecha anime revolve around some kind of world power adopting a revolutionary weapon/technology which the characters utilise to shift the world climate. I'd say what differentiates the genre from other power fantasies is how much focus is placed on the militarised value of the technology that only certain people can control
That's exactly what makes it Meat Gundam though, the war crimes.
Trash Taste: we stay out of politics.
Hasan: hold my beer.
A true limo lefties XD
i mean it was balanced. the podcast never went into complete politics at the same time it had a political touch because of hasan.
I like to imagine it as hasan going "I'll hold your beer, also gonna give a speech about progressive praxis just try to stop me nerds" but I don't really watch hasan so that image is based purely on what I think is funny, and also on reversing the "hold my beer" phrase
@@MorbiusBlueBalls Yeah, they basically allowed him to say his views and opinions. Which was great. Also nice that they challenged his opinions a little, just enough it felt like for Hasan to elaborate.
And ultimately, whether they agree with those opinions or not is irrelevant. Because what they believe shouldn't matter, since their opinions are theirs, and ours should be ours.
If they wanted to stay out of politics, they wouldn't have invited one of the most political, and controversial, streamers.
9:05
Hasan: I'm old, I'm 31
Joey: *quietly glances over to Garnt and his 32 year old existence*
The face he made 😂 thanks, I didn't catch that at first
LMAO THEY WERE SMIRKING
ohoo
Grant is pushing 40
lol
Hasan giving us the most anime episode we’ve had in ages. He’s never beating the weeb allegations.
He is a big smelly weeb
he literlly just watchs shonen
@@cavie034 Don't pretend like shonen isn't the most profitable genre in all of anime/manga. It would not be as global or successful of an industry without shonen. So if that's all he watches, that doesn't make him NOT a weeb.
@@cavie034 he watches samurai champloo, i love anime but i havent watched that. HE IS AN OG WEEB
@@cavie034You're not gonna catch a Naruto or My Hero stan knowing what Space Dandy is lmao. Hasan is deep into anime.
"Why would you root for the bad guy"
Hasan confirmed non weeb. Everyone knows Japanese media usually makes the villain incredibly sexy and charismatic.
But all replies to Hasan in this comment section think he is actually a weeb😂
They really got people rooting for griffith
the one piece being political is the most common sense take hasan has ever made, i have no idea why it is controversial
It’s because the way he classified as being American left wing political is absurd.
it's cuz some fans like to say dumb shit like "OP ISN'T POLITICAL IT'S A FANTASY STOP TRYING TO SHOVE YOUR SJW BS DOWN OUR THROATS" when there is clearly political themes in the series like bro did we watch the same anime?
@@mirelle_mojena well, when you have people like Hasan attempting to claim fighting against a world government that rules by offering safety in place of freedom as left wing, it’s pretty easy to write it off as the political ravings of an idiot.
Hasan makes it seem like one piece only exists to make a political statement. He exaggerates the level to which its present or how prominent it
It's controversial because Weebs are literally the most politically illiterate group of people in the world.
Ain’t no way these people are laughing at someone calling One Piece political when the main villain is called “The World Government”
Cause its not as simple without wg ther would be ppl lik Blackbeard or rocks which would be worse the freedom seeking is the true core of the series
@@sarov7658 I hope one day you have the ability to realize how political it is to try to define "true freedom". Y'know something philosophers and politicians have written and spoken about for as long as there's been humans
Yeah they really came across poorly in this episode. Laughing at literal facts that anyone with an ounce of media literacy could figure out. "Hurr durr OP is just long arm pirate man punch"
I'm pretty sure they were laughing cuz it was such a wild take even if they do agree with it. Literally, they never said they disagreed. They even agreed to some points. They just never heard such blunt takes like hassan has, so I guess their first instinct was to laugh lol
@@mura_saki that, and maybe they were afraid to lean one way or the other politically by agreeing with Hasan, since they're not a political podcast and stuff. probably the bois were just playing it safe
"Luffy is a terrorist."
Looks at his bounty by the world government. Checks out.
Garnt coping so hard to admit that Oda is a leftists lmaooo Not a single "history fan" would just hang a Che Guevara poster on his office lol And Hasan is right, there's a loooot of references through the anime
He's not. He's a pirate. Completely different
@@yellowcard8100 lol some people would definitely call pirates terrorists
@@Tygrave The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological
Yeah, luffy isn't a terrorist lol
@@Cron0s91 yea but oda is not a woke sjw idiot. hassn thinks oda is in his side lol what a tool
'first of all, luffy... is a terrorist' is the most out of pocket line in the shows history
he is a criminal that blows things up i guess
Literally a terrorist, if you lived in the one piece world you'd think the guy who attacked the world government military base is 100% a terrorist
The boy boy dog penis line blows this out of the water
Interesting that recently he compared a guy he supports to Luffy. If that isn't proof he supports terrorism then what is?
@crazyfutureradio not all terrorists are bad lol. Che guevara is a terrorist, but he liberated Cuba.
Lol Hasan is so spot on about Vinland. The author's previous work, Planetes, has deep anti-capitalist messaging it's insane.
Dude I loved planetes and had no idea it was from the same creator. Cause Vinland is awesome too. Glad I came across your comment.
No way he wrote Planetes… I tried to go through that shit, it was so boring that I let it go after 8 episodes.
@@Matt-fh4bk it’s ok I don’t like slow burns😂
source and proof?
Didn't know he was the same author. Planetes is a masterpiece . You know how to make people eager to watch an anime.
I'm not a weeb.
“Luffy is a Terrorist.” Great way to start the podcast
Edit: As a big AOT fan, I see both sides of the debt that Titans are Mech’s
that's what happens when Luffy eats the Baku Baku no Mi instead
Hasan's favorite
I mean hes not wrong
I mean yea he definitely would be considered one by the government. 😅
Even better
Hasans take about One Piece is completely correct, Oda is super into politics and is a massive history buff. He bakes in so much politics in One Piece. The literal main message is about being free and what "freedom" really is.
yeah, it was really disappointing hearing boys saying that its not political
he literally has a picture of Che Guevara in his office xd
One of the gorosei dude who wields the kitetsu(one of the highest ranking in the world government hierarchy) is literally Mahatma ghandi as well.
@@arturtemerkhanov1132 Rich people giving zero fucks about politics as usual.
Which makes sense since they're pirates
Joey: Eva isn't a mecha, its a scifi
Joey...those aren't mutually exclusive.Being one doesn't make it so it cannot be the other. In fact, 99% of mecha are scifi.
What's the mecha that's not sci-fi? I'm kinda intrigued by that concept, ngl.
@@morganqorishchi8181attack on titan
@@morganqorishchi8181 Attack on titan
@@morganqorishchi8181Gleipnir
Only took 145 episodes for Space Dandy to be mentioned on the show 🙏
I love how Connor's got his arms on the back of his head and is relaxing just watching Joey and Garnt arguing.
Oh how the tables have turned
A change of pace
He went finally now its my time to sit back
わ😊😊あいかあぁ
What's the timestamp?
They are joking about Hasan being a bigger weeb than them, but he proved it literally from a first minute of the podcast
Hasan is not a weeb copium
@@just_a_turtle_chad Imagine still saying copium
@@just_a_turtle_chad cringe
@@just_a_turtle_chad nah dudes never beating the weeb allegations.
@@just_a_turtle_chad cringe
Not gonna lie. This episode was so much fun to listen to. HasanAbi is a great guest.
the fact none of the boys can take him seriously when he talks about how political one piece is makes me really sad.
It’s absolutely insane that Baki’s creator is the father of the creator of Beastars
😮😮😮😮😮WHATTT??? Damn that's cool
THAT IS WILD!! I had no idea
I am gonna say a fcked up thing, do you think he did the baki father watch his kid have sex thing irl?
That’s crazzzzzyyyy
@@eleonarcrimson858 I have no idea on what you're saying with this wording, but the creator of Beastars is a woman.
holy shit. Hasan literally made Garnt and Joey into arguing each other about EVA🤣🤣
"Joey dont do this man"
Of course he did ..thts what Hasan does best, be toxic and gaslight people into fighting
@@ArtfulDodger94 Go outside
@ArtfulDodger Bro you literally watch Matt Walsh 🤮🤮🤮
@@igris0189 oh no he watches somebody, that completely invalidates his point 🙄. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive
To the point Hasan brought up about Luffy being Brazilian: part of Oda's regular character information he gives in Q&A columns is where characters would be from the real world and has said Luffy would be from Brazil.
It's wild to me that conner has never heard the term wage slave.
The whole episode is just “hold up, let him cook”.
You dropped this 👑🤣
and he did cook well
And cook he did.
Oda: This revolutionary guy is modeled after Fidel Castro, his ship is named after Fidel's ship. You have tribes fighting for their land. You have doctor's being taken hostage by the government to artificially inflate the value of medicine, you have slavery out in the open, next to the literal house of the elites, who use the land as their playground.
And spoilers: Luffy is the literal embodiment of Freedom dreamed up by the oppressed.
Garnt: Coincidence.
Funny how socialism has destroyed countries just like the evil elites do in the anime. And also how socialism hates the freedom to be able to own private property. Seems Oda is very uninformed on politics and probably just makes the case for right-libertarianism more than socialism.
Lmao
"One Piece is about a funny rubber guy having fun with his friends" -- average apolitical fan
It's amazing how treating "political" as a poisonous word can keep someone from seeing the obvious
Centrism bias and lack of knowledge about politics. The two plagues of every liberal society.
I'm pretty sure that they agree (you'd have to be pretty dumb to not see it), but can't agree too much/be too outspoken or else they'd be alienating their conservative fanbase (which I mean fuck conservatives but also understandable they wouldn't wanna politicize their content ig)
@@franekkkkk Not even close
the bilingual section was so fun to listen to and hear all the differences between their mother tongues
hearing about all these "one piece takes" by Hasan, I now understand why One Piece is such an amazing franchise; the creator was literally inspired by important real-world historical events. he took the hot points and cooked them in his manga
The creator of One Piece supports pedophilia lol
Oda literally changed his art style quite considerably from how he naturally draws it so he could tackle all these tough topics while still making it a happy and goofy vibe. It’s absolutely that deep lmao
Oda is a hugeeee history buff. The trash taste guys are seriously underestimating how much thought Oda puts into the story haha
I highly suspect they were intentionally playing ignorant to lead Hassan on with his points without jeopardizing their apolitical image in an effort to maintain fan base.
While it’s reasonable to think: in that case, why would they invite someone like Hassan in the first place? It could very well be that they simply wanted Hassan’s clout on their show but don’t want any consequences.
Though I wouldn’t be surprised if the boys, especially Connor, secretly agrees with Hassan’s politics and just wanted him to do all the talking.
It was crazy that none of them saw that One Piece has many political views, and they really are that deep, loved this episode and guest definitely pays attention to his anime.
@@grizzlybane I'm almost certain that they were playing dumb to avoid potential backlash from certain parts of the fanbase.
@@teasea546 well Hassan is pretty close to Ludwig and Connor is close to Ludwig. He also visited Japan with Sykkuno, so it only made sense to invite him. It might be that they want to remain apolitical for the audience, but I also wouldn't be surprised if they genuinely never thought about it. A lot of people can be apolitical in their normal lives, especially if they're living in a foreign country and so are sort of isolated from the politics of their own nation.
Around 26:39 where Hasan talks about wage slave. I think he'll have a blast learning about some Japanese call themselves "Syachiku" (社畜) or "company livestock". It is a self-mockery term for Japanese who are getting treated horribly by companies as if they are livestock and not human. Says a lot about some working condition in Japan.
Or the black company work culture, and how the asian collectivist mentality off load the society failing into the family; e.g hikikomori for the jobless and how japan just round up all the homeless people to relocate into a out of sight district.
@@noirto2 True! Black company culture is something I see in Japan, China, and Taiwan. Taiwanese often complain about bad company owner who doesn't know the expertise into certain fields and is very stingy about paying a good salary to those employees. China has 996 (9am-9pm, 6 days/week).
I am certain if Japan use their 1% of their technological advanced resources, they can create remote works that even hikikomoris can work in, but they are also very slow at adapting new ideas.
It's not a coincidence that many Japanese anime/manga have political subtexts. A lot of Japanese animators and drawers are very anti-war and some of them very influential in pacifist movement (i.e. Hayao Miyazaki, Osamu Tezuka and Eiichiro Oda)
Hasan: "I wish Luffy was a little less GOOFY though"
*_He's not gonna like Luffy's newest form..._*
"You didn't have to tell me that franky is American , he's powered by coke" Cdawg had me mf rolling at this point lmao
this episode is funny cause hasan just says obvious stuff like "one piece is political" and "attack on titan is a mecha" and the other three lose their minds
yeah they basically proved his point lol anime fans hate that their shit could actually mean something
@@Shadowserpant00 i'm not even a big proponent of the whole "all art is inherently political" thing and i vastly prefer interpersonal themes to political ones but one piece is literally a story about toppling the government 😭
@@Shadowserpant00 damn
@pinna it's "discovering the secrets of your freedom masters and becoming free vs those who have ill-intent for freedom" first imo
Obvious, yes, but given a lot of people seem to reject the concept that One piece is political.
Joey accidentally argued against his own point 48:50 . I love it
Was really looking forward to this episode and finally got around to listening while at work. Great stuff!
Fun fact, there actually do exist a Japanese politician who lobbies against censorship in jav and doujins etc called Yamada Taro. Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember him winning a seat in the national diet or somewhere sometime ago.
Isn't that the same dude that has a dance crew with music videos dancing through akihabara?
Yamada LET'S GOOO
he's a famous mangaka right ?
@@lontongtepungroti2777 Just looked it up, it’s not the same one that made the Monogatari series
Is that a Garnts DND character?
Joey is right, Hasan should start an Anime Analysis Channel
He would never beat the weeb allegations by then lol but the good thing is his political streams would be less on screen which is good.
ohoo
@@user-kx4cf7iy5u ooooooo
It's finally time for him to spread over Breadtube essays thing
@@zondor8123Acting like his anime tales aren’t based in his politics in the first place lmao
54:50 I think he’s referencing:
Mista: “Do you even have a license?”
Giorno: “I’m 15, so no.”
Just casually trying to catch up on some trash taste and out of nowhere “Oda is a leftist and luffy is a terrorist”
His not the same lefty as hussian who dont know what a woman is
based takes.
Left: Change is good. We like new things.
Right: Things are fine the way they are. In fact, things were better yesterday.
One Piece: We need to change this world so radically that we come full circle and end up 900 years in the past.
Yo GLR watches trash taste??!!!
Damn GLR?!? Big fan!
@Noah Conservatism, which is a right-wing ideology, is literally about conserving the status quo, man.
@@anothun9216 Yeah, wtf is that guy talking about LMAO. The right is against exploitation of children? They literally are for removing child labor laws and age of consent laws are against libertarianism
@Noah
Which is why all those stories of Catholic priests *not* molesting anybody make headlines. Or, conservatives looking for ways around child labour laws.
Hasan is like a weeb who never actually talks about anime or watches anime related things on TH-cam, he literally just watches anime and goes on with life. Its kinda cool to see.
The best kind of weeb tbh
@@friendlyneighbourhooddegen4739 he does sometimes drop a "Nani" in middle of stream 😂
ohooo
Um...no. he's a well known, extremely active political socialist commentator. His appearance here was a recruitment campaign for his channel.
@@nicsosa369 touch grass
Hasan of all people was the profit all along, someone finally convinced the boys to talk about Anime on their Anime podcast xD
Maybe Hasan will save us from the Dark Timeline.
The profit?
@@Cunningstunts23 prophet lol
Just to add for the Evangelion vs AoT part: Just wanna point out that you can literally see Eva01 being a bio-weapon in episode 1. There's absolutely no spoiler about the Evas being organic. Iirc in the first fight 01 loses an arm and bleeds all over the place. Also part of the face plating I think, which reveals a clearly organic eye.
Totally agree with Hasan that One Piece is highly political lol. One of the many reasons the show resonated with me. Especially if you live in a country with a lot of tyranny and corruption, Luffy is an admirable icon because he does things his way not minding whoever he clashes with
Daym u real
Tgl viewer
ooohoo
Who cares; Hassan is a L lol
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i love how like every kid raised in the middle east or north africa can universally remember watching captain tsubasa dubbed in their language growing up
Mexico too
Holy shit I didn’t know that was a thing that’s hilarious
Add Germany to that list :D
dominican republic too
Indonesia too. Both the 80s and the 2002 series
The entire group missed a crucial argument, attack on titan is a magical girl anime. It’s much more akin to a magical girl transformation than it is piloting a flesh suit.
1:55:03 THANK YOU! I thought I was going crazy thinking that Connor has a lisp when he changes to Japanese, but seems like everyone else noticed that
Okay hold up, he was spittin with the One Piece is political take. I genuinely kept that in the back of my mind while binging it the entire time and thought “wait, this is literally a fight and abolish the corrupt government story.” And with so many references to both IRL and the story to actual ideals, I wouldn’t put it past oda to actually write it that way. I thought it was pretty obvious by the marine fort arc.
I heavily disagree. If you want to make the argument that it's political because of the tyrannical world government, then you'd have to admit it's also conspiratorial with the existence of the celestials. A shadowy cabal that rules the world through both overt and covert methods... I wouldn't read too much into it considering the negative implications that would have against Oda if it was intentional.
corrupt government being the antagonist in stories is kinda common place tho. star wars was rebels vs the empire(gov)
Oda is just writing about common human themes man. There is nothing deep here. He is not trying to inspire a leftist revolution.
@@Akakiryuushinyeah but Star Wars Empire is based of the Nazis and Americas invasion of Vietnam. The Marines in One Piece I think are based on the British, American, and Duce Empires. Which makes sense why Dragon is based on the Cube revolution
Yeah it’s political but he says it’s leftist because that’s his side. He assumes that corrupt authoritarian government represents the right when it goes either way. To him facist dictators are the right. To people on the right fighting an overreaching government is a right leaning ideal
It is interesting how Hasan didn't bring up the incredibly blatant anti war message at the end of the Chimera Ant arc in HxH, but he did say himself he hasn't seen it in ages.
There was no anti war message and if there was what was it?
@@mijanhoque1740 i think it has something to do with them nuking the ants
@@johnthebarbarian The Nuke was more to show that human intellect trumps everything. Humans couldn’t beat the Ants by physical means but their intelligence can. More to do with humanity perseveres by intellectual means making them the apex species than a war message.
@@mijanhoque1740 Did you not watch/ read hxh? ...
@@mijanhoque1740 It was about how much malice humans have and how we're monsters. In Chapter 298 there's literally the question "Were humans so different from ants?". This is after a monologue telling the reader about the horrors that was this bomb. Right after Netero blew up we get told that this bomb killed millions and there were efforts to ban it. The thesis statement for the entire Chimera Ant arc is literally about how horrible humans can be which culminates with Netero's words "You know nothing of the bottomless malice within the human heart".
Watches Code Geass, Promare, Gundam, MHA, and any Miyazaki movie: "Boy, I sure am glad there's no politics in anime!"
Ahh yes I remember watching my neighbor totoro and kiki's delivery service and seeing all the politics in it. But no seriously you are right.
When you watch even something like Death Note and think it is not political
The collab I’ve been waiting for
I actually like the debate about Aot being a mecha anime. I never thought of the idea and it was interesting as hell.
The EVA argument is perfect The EVAs are just fleshy bloody titans and the metal acts like armor and BDSM gear to keep them contained and calm.
The kids are just anti-anxiety pills to keep the EVAs nice and lucid
@@aaaalexandredo same
I’ve seen so much political content on AOT, apparently some people think Isayama is a fascist, which seems weird to me.
Yeah, they were always like nature's mecha or some sort lol
it's been a thing since season 1 was airing, how did you not at least come across the idea? I knew about it before I even watched the show ^^
As a 19 year old who also grew up in Turkey, the fact he mentioned he saw Tsubasa too was amazing. We also had this Korean anime called JangGeum’s Dream for some reason, but it slapped, the dub was so bad but amazing
I recently watched both seasons of JangGeum's dream and finished it just yesterday. Because I remember watching it as a kid on Yumurçak TV XD
Kaptan Tsubasa animesi o kadar harika ki adamlar 10 dakika topla koşarken birbirlerine bağırıyorlar. O lanet olası futbol sahası ne kadar büyük 😅😂
@@yusassin1449 I loved JangGuem's Dream as a kid!! Wish I could find it in korean and rewatch. Where did you watch it and was it in turkish or korean?
Bro I loved jang geum so much
I waschen it turkish dubbed on yt
OMG I've been searching for it for so long! THANK YOU❤
l watched it in Arabic dub when l was young but it didn't continue in the channel and l forgot the name
@@yusassin1449love when you see the goal appear over the horizon like they're playing on a Mario Galaxy planet
One of the localizations I'll never understand is the fact that the Re:Zero novels are almost up to date in Poland but are years behind in America still and trickling out extremely slowly.
The “HxH cancelled “talk rlly aged like fine milk
Well it's not like the author is getting the chapters released on schedule.
@@martinaguiluz4063 it’s on the same magazine that jojos is in rn so it’ll probably work out for the better plus Togashi just releases a volume worth of content in November of last year
Of all people, I didn’t think Hasan would be the one to get them to talk about anime for this long in an episode of trash taste.
I think hassan saw an opportunity to capitalize with the trash taste audience. And from all the comments, it worked. Unknowing minds were swayed.
@@nicsosa369 Ah yes, he doesn't actually like anime, he just studied on anime before the podcast to capitalize on being a guest in a podcast.
@@nicsosa369 literally no one cares. Stop putting your hasan conspiracy theory bullshit in every comment you see and go touch some grass.
@@nicsosa369 He's literally been a weeb for longer than he's been a political commentator.
@nic sosa Take a step back for a second. You honest to god think this dude decided to go on some podcast to indoctrinate anime fans into leftist ideology via talking about anime plot lines. Doesn't this sound at least a tiny bit paranoid and insane to you?
I don't think I've ever seen Garnt and Joey on such opposing sides than talking about if Eva is a mecha anime or not.
The Attack on Titan and Ratatouille segment had me rolling
I just got to the audio version of the "Is EVA a mecha?" and my argument is that if EVA isn't a mecha, why are they in Super Robot Wars?
Then Cowboy Bebob is mecha?
They're talking about the superficial aesthetic characteristics of what makes a mecha but Hasan is right if you think about mecha tropes and mechanics. The mech is a tool that characters use to fight eachother, they act simultaneously like a vehicle but also like protective armor or an extention of their bodies, they give the characters the ability to fight at a larger scale while keeping their anthropomorphic essence and personalities (which would be lost if it were, say tanks), each mecha has its own special ability, I mean it's all there, they're just made of flesh. It makes no sense to cut off the comparison at superficial stuff like "do you get in it or does it form from you?" or comparing it to Ratatouille. It's the tropes.
Bro spitting facts
AoT is not mecha, they are augmented body part, you don't enter in a robot, you create it from your cell
Also evangelion is mecha with biomech technology
mecha genre inherently just means mechanical, if these tools are not made of mechanical it really is not mecha at all, moreover if it's flesh / entire being. But if you said AoT should be in the subgenre of mecha, then sure I'll agree, they're different but they can still be in the same umbrella term
On top of that mecha is more often than not set up as a political drama which is a half of what's going on in AoT
@@TomesTheAmazing so by that logic Kingdom is mecha anime?
Mecha is mecha, if it doesn't have giant robots (which is not the same than overgrowth of your body) it's not mecha
It's weird to me how the boys laugh at Hasan when he said One Piece is political anime. The grand theme is clearly about power structure and social system. Slavery, power/knowledge, racism, weaponry, war, classism, and so on. 😂😂😂
As someone else said, I think it was their way of not taking a side in order to not piss off fans. All three boys have a large following in the US and Marxism is VERY taboo here. Like so much so that it's better if your a content creator, to just not talk about it unless you're like Hasan and are trying to appeal to a certain crowd.
@@Steve-xo5pq which is very funny cause Connor is very clearly leftist by American standards. If you pick up any of his sayings and occasional thought drops, he views a lot of right winged American things as fucked up lmao.
It's also funny because the rest of the world is actually very far left and the conservative party in the UK for instance would be considered democrats in the US. SO occasionally, the boys will say something that is common to them, but to America, it can be controversial.
It's a matter of perspective as the boys all come from countries that are far more left leaning than the US which is considered extremely right leaning. Again, American left parties are considered right wing in most countries.
@@Steve-xo5pq Being aware of any kind of political narrative and talk about Marxism is two different things, tho. You don't have to be a Marxist or talk about Marxism to discuss political issues. I think the boys just surprised (maybe that's why they laughed) someone casually break down One Piece storyline as a leftist narrative. They just not familiar with it, and I think Garnt also joined the conversation later on.
@@Steve-xo5pq yeah look what happened to mother's basement. He had to chill to a extent and catrter to the weebs first and formost. And thing is weebs or Otaku in Japan tend to be very politically apathetic.
@@ScourJful Exactly, a lot of the USA's left-leaning parties are considered right-leaning by other Countries' standards.
From my understanding the censorship in Adult media in Japan dates back to the Meiji period where they deliberate chose to adopt western customs as a way to modernise the country. I think it was Victorian England that actually inspired that censorship of sexual content specifically
It's always Victorian England ruining things for all of us, even over a century after the fact
My father is Turkish, and whenever he speaks with his family I am getting worried since it sounds like he is about to kill someone for a war crime or something when in reality it's just a regular everyday dialogue. So, there are definitely some cultural and linguistic effects at play
I'm surprised they haven't heard of the term wage slave, it's pretty ubiquituous in most places I see talking about work and living. Maybe it's a US thing, but it's working a job that doesn't pay you enough to live, just enough to survive. So say all of your money goes to Rent, to Food, to Utilities, and then nothing is left over for anything else but basic survival needs. Then, you work over 40 hours a week at this job, so you work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, plus an additional weekend or possibly both weekends, and you never have time to actually do anything. Days your not working is spent just catching up on maintenance of your house and person, so your entire life becomes just completely engulfed by working and spending money to survive.
Sometimes it's less than 8 per day/40 per week, because that means you are not entitled to benefits like Medicare for the illnesses you gained from doing the job.
It's shocking to me that people don't know what the term means. It's the only reason,why slavery was abolished. The "free market" was way cheaper and more lucrative for them. You just let people compete against each other for jobs and press the wages down to nothing.
@@Sultansekte Same deal as "decolonised africa" - a bunch of bullshit. Europe and America never let Africa go, just look at how France still maintains its Empire economically with the CFA Franc, even though today It doesn't show up on the map anymore. Imperialism today comes not from the barrel of the gun, but the banks. It's even more lucrative to have these nations nominally independent: the imperial masters can continue to exploit the workforce and resources of these countries without having to build the infrastructure to maintain it themselves.
it's a left-wing term. And most people aren't left wing in that anti-capitalist sense.
Wage slave is a very uncommon term, unless you are engaged in political circles, which most people aren't.
The way he goes into detail about how one piece is political makes it sound so interesting
If he comes back for another episode, hopefully Connor catches up to Hasan, so they can cover more political points in the series.
One piece is incredibly interesting for lots of reasons!! But it's cool to listen to such a passionate fan explain his reasons for loving it
@@kirkpatrikballares3291 I think on a stream when he got back to the US, Hasan said he’s planning to be back in Japan in June or something so fingers crossed they bring him back
@@emmityemmity6159 I know that Hasan is planning a 2nd trip, but regarding the boys guest throughout the years, only Chris Broad and Meilene have made more than 1 appearance, but theres definitely more they can squeeze out of Hasan aside from Anime, which is Memes in Politics etc, if Hasan isnt Available, I'll take Will Neff
@@emmityemmity6159 not gonna be caught up
Biomecha. Actually a pretty common trope. Eureka 7 is a lot like that, Gundam universe has certain characters like that, etc
Hasán is certainly not beating the small head allegations with this one
I love how hunched over Hasan is here which makes him look like the smallest person in the room lol
I wanna see how he compares to Grant the Giant 😜
I wanna see how he compares to Grant the Giant 😜
his exterior matches his pathetic interior
@@josebeteta8283 God I hate emoji
@@Good_Hot_Chocolate you not alone
I got to the AoT argument...and immediately went, no, its more a magical girl genre than mecha...and then I remembered that gundam is centered around teenagers who are (likely or explicitly) psychic/have special powers that enable them to become Gundam pilots...so ive convinced myself further that mecha and magical girls are the same thing and if AoT sits at both, then the military drama aspects push it as being a mecha.
I thought I was free from AoT....and now I keep thinking of narrative parallels 😢
Damn. Does this mean Eva is a magical girl anime?
Bruh
lil bro has no one to talk this with so he came to the yt comments😢😂
@@lordsubl1meok dud
Bro is thinking for free
came back to this after Connor was a guest on Fear&, impeccable vibes
Now I can tell the kids that accuse us of watching a kid's anime that it's very matured and has a lot of deep message that they won't understand 😅
People here thinking OP isn't political are living in the stone ages lmao
All stories have themes and messages baked into them. At least the good ones that last
There's a saying in Anime community long long time ago.
“If you enjoyed it, just enjoyed it. If you get it, you'll understand why"
@@tonionio Fishmen Island ain't the same as GoT incest ☠️
Fr people are just blind
@@tonionio exactly One Piece is way more historical and cultural before being political
Robin is in the crew not dragon and ivankov
did they give hasan a kids sit so that he looks normal😂
😂😂 coming from a tall person: your legs get basically removed cause you dont sit on your legs and people have diffrent body ratios so hasan probably has tall legs and a normal upper body
Its a babies high chair. They also gave him some soft peas and a bib.
I think he’s slumping down a bit too because he’s very conscious of enormous size
i also always forget but all of them are pretty tall. especially garnt.
@@tastybread69420 yeah but hasan isn't just tall, he's also big
"Healthcare is an inhearantly american topic"
Like bruh, I actually can't believe Garnt said that
"You know that thing people need to live? It's only inherent to one place"
I think he means a political topic. Healthcare in many other countries, is not as politized as it is in America. The constant criticism of the privatized healthcare system and America is often used as a staple for healthcare around the world. It is quiet hard to talk about healthcare without talking about Americans.
Healthcare as a human right is an almost uniquely American political issue, especially for a country as wealthy and developed as the US is. Garnt having an American wife would be an obvious indication he is aware of this, common country political discourse/memes notwithstanding.
Most developed countries have universal Healthcare. America is one of the very few that doesn't, and also the country that pays the most for less Healthcare.
It's true though, it's not something that's really up for debate in other places. Everyone just gets healthcare everywhere else lol.
Hasan's Chimera Ant Arc take is spot on. The arc would've easily been the best had it not been dragged out for so long.
The only parts that are guilty of “dragging on” imo are the episodes before Pitou’s born and the 5-10 episodes after the phantom troupe show up. Everything else is a masterpiece.
It's still the best
it starts and ends SO strong but it's 60 episodes long and it didn't have to be
nah it helped build
You are acting like it isn't consider the best arc by most of the people.
I never seen Connor laugh this much.
I feel like in a year or two Connor's gonna move to LA to be w the other streamers
His connections will be more solidified, his audience will be bigger, and he's mentioned wanting to live in America.
He also seems visibly bored in recent episodes. It's kinda sad to see but understandable.
@@prod.bipxlar8765 I don't think so man , you reading too much into it , and his audience already big both as streamer and as youtuber.
Check out Hasan and Connor’s IRL stream in Kobe. One of the funnest streams I’ve seen in a while.
@@prod.bipxlar8765 @prod. bipxlar! Connor always looks depressed LOL ,that's his resting bitch face , and the bois already talked about how much they'll hate living in L.A.
@@prod.bipxlar8765 I disagree
Hasans anime takes are actually incredibly based
Nope, he doesn't like Ussop and Buggy
@@kobil316SH Nice meme, my duderino.
@@kobil316SH I had to read One Piece because I couldn't stand Usop having the same voice as Shinichi in Detective Conan
ohoo
Based on what? Dogshit?
Waiting for Hasanabi to see the charakter design during the Reverie Arc.
Connor flexing his welsh and Garnt flexing his thai is kind of insane. Wish joey and hasan also flexed some stuff in their languages.
I think they did but it was very short
Agreed, not sure why they seem so reluctant to speak their native tongues, specifically Connor and Gigguk.
@@Mellow_Yellow13 Because they can only communicate in English and appeal to an English speaking audience
@@Mellow_Yellow13in England in school especially, it was kind of a cringe thing to do, not sure why but it always just felt weird speaking another language, maybe potentially outing yourself as an outsider or maybe cause it’s considered a subtle flex? Either way, it was always just cringe for the speaker.
Hasan's take on AoT being mecha is exactly what I thought when I was watching it, he's so fucking right about that. The boys' reaction to it is hilarious.
Garnt immediately defending hasans very correct take made me laugh so hard
Titans are flesh mechas!
think calling it a mecha is very much taking the show at face value, like yeah it looks like people piloting flesh mechas, but I don't think that qualifies it to be sorted under a genre it wasn't made to be.
Comparing it to Eva is interesting but just because Eva has a plot point where it turns out the mechas have not actually been mechanical this whole time, doesn't mean that the definition of mecha has to be changed, or that Eva has to be stripped of the mecha tag.
Eva was made to be a mecha show, aot wasn't. Think it's simple as that
This feels like a "is cereal soup" argument
thats a basic observation, also its pretty impresive that he even realized that with him not liking any shows with giant robots in them, what a clown
@@cavie034Mecha fans are either the most aggressive or most chill people. You're obviously not that chill.
Watching a collectivist say he would be against a super state controlling everything and then say an individualist fighting against them is what communism is all about has got to be the biggest form of ironic comedy I have ever witnessed.
It’s actually quite impressive.
Leftists saying they love when the main character is fighting against oppressive governments, while openly advocating for communism and government oppression is irony they will never understand.
@@ZingoBananaaand you'd have to be heavily heavily misinformed about what communism is, communism is simple when the workers own the means of production and then decomodify. If you apply this to the USSR or China it doesn't apply because both countries had booming industrial sectors and econmys, and the workers never had any control only the state had control. The countries were far far close to capitalism then communism.
@@thefarmer6541 ”that’s not real communism, bro”. Are you that much of a walking stereotype? Point me to a country with ”real” communism then.
@@ZingoBananaa There is none, it has never truly existed.
@@TechenZz and how many millions more people deserve to die in the pursuit of an absolute system the clearly does not work then?
The way you argue is the same as me saying "real capitalism has never been tried" just because even the most market economic countries still have either social programs or regulations towards that system, because no totalitarian economic system works completely on its own. Communism HAS been implemented several times throughout history, but the only reason it didn't lead to even more starvation and state oppression is because it still had some degree of market economics implemented. But it has been the primary economic system of several countries before. For example Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, Laos and China.
@cdawg as a fellow mechanical engineer I’m disappointed, the body is essentially a mechanical functioning system. Mechanical engineering is made up of core principles such as heat transfer, thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, etc. all of which the body can be broken down into categories of those principles. Thus AoT should be considered a mecha
Edit: typo
There's a reason we call them mechanical pencils and not button pencils. Mechanical doesn't mean it needs to be a fucking robot lol. I'm fully on board the flesh mecha train. Also an engineering student but this is sort of common knowledge anyway.
This was what I was thinking too
This comment goes hard, and I love it
Not even remotely an engineer and this was my thought. Flesh bodies are still essentially mechanical structures... just cellular in its composition.
I’d even read flesh mecha, it’s kind of popular genre in fantasy
Touching on what Hassan said, in Japan, too, homosexuality was once considered no big deal pre-Meiji period. Openly gay samurais were known. The Meiji Restoration and the post-war US occupation were the two blows Japan took that has sadly resulted in a more prudish society.
nah
Imagine if that never happened
"Nazi Germany lost but Fascism won."
- George Carlin
As someone studying Japanese, and Japanese history in college, I've read through several stories and accounts of this. It was very common at the time. Even in the Tale of Genji (a fiction story written a Long time ago based in the history at the time), there are big themes, and story points of homosexuality. There are even paintings of this as well. I hadn't thought about it before until Hasan brough it up, but honestly it's very likely that it's because of America Japan became so against things like homosexuality.
@@keiz_ Nah, as countries become more militant they become more heterosexual aswell its nature
The best part of Thriller bark is What Zoro does at the end
Water 7 went hard as hell tho
Just wait till Garnt starts saying the mario movie is his favourite isekai
Idk how the boys watch/read Enies Lobby, saw the massacre of Ohara, saw Akainu's extreme sense of absolute justice, watched Luffy tell Usopp to burn the WG flag and declare war and the go "apolitical, totally apolitical"
Overthrowing the govt is just a normal thing everyone does wdym
Right?!
So true lol
Probably because they watched early One piece when they were still in their late teens to early 20s and are so focused onto consuming anime and japan culture
It's genuinely insane.
Now I don't know wether Oda is a genuine communist, but I do think he clearly is a leftist.
Literally all the "good thing" in his work are leftist ideals.
Naruto also has a lot of political subjects. It criticizes the idea of child soldiers being treated only as tools, Corrupt governments (Even the Leaf which are supposed to be the good guys do messed up shit which makes it less black and white) Xenophobia/Racism against the Uchiha and the Jinchuriki/Tailed Beasts, Pain's whole character is deeply political and anti-war especially when he clearly equates the power of the tailed beasts into nuclear deterrent.
So true absolutely
Hidden leaf village deserved shinra tensei. There I'm saying it.
@@w77eed Did a spit-take at this reference lmfao
@@w77eed fuck it, I’m saying it. 😂
Tbh naruto really had some basic political points going but then the ending and the message just wasn't it like what was the point.
50:11 I have no recollection of that ever being mentioned in EVA either lol
They didn't name "Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai" by Jim Jarmusch when taking about the merging of Samurai culture and afroamerican culture in the US. Wu-Tang? Forest Whitaker? Katanas and code of honor? Damn that movie is good
As far as the politics in anime/manga thing goes, and whether or not the creators are aware of the history of the things they reference, or they're just throwing cool things, they are definitely almost always aware of the political ideas. Alotta people don't realize how deep the history of Japan goes in terms of leftist political movements, and how some of these authors/directors were either members of these movements, or had close relatives that were members, and taught them about their politics. And some of these movements are old. Like pre-WWI old. Some of them were around during the Meiji Revolution. It's pretty crazy. There's also the history of Indigenous Japanese (like the Ainu) fighting back against the government. Leftist politics and political movements are old in Japan, and many of the most respected creators in the industry are very aware of that part of Japan's history, as well as how it intersected with the history of political movements in other nations.
The Japanese Red Army had prominent members who fled Japan and joined the Palestinian Liberation movements. It's insane how deep that stuff really goes. Japan isn't the apolitical paradise so many Western anime/manga fans think it is.
blah balh balk hblak blah b;ah boring get new material nerd
Some outhor literally went into politics after finishing the work, check out the author of love hina
Also its easy for people that dont write/make art to write off things as just meaningless or because it looks cool, like why the curtain is blue etc, but when good art is made, especially something as stand out as OP, the artist almost definitely has to put a lot of their soul into the art, so things they believe in and care about and make things in the art have meaning, the fact that the art says something makes it special and artists know that when they decide what to write about.
@@elbukis Every country has their own array of different political ideals unless they are authoritarian. But most are not as divided in their different politics as modern western politics.
Never heard of HasanAbi before this episode. The double whammy of his political analysis of One Piece and Vinland Saga already made me interested in his content. Media analysis is so fucking hard. You can't ever precisely know what the intentions of an author were, but it's always important to think about the message the media conveys; intentionaly or not. Publically publishing art is always, at some level, a political act. This doesn't mean that you can't enjoy it at surface level or that all art is propoganda. However, art is made by persons that have ideals, motivations, principles, tastes etc. When they create art these predispositions will be inexorably intertwined with the product. This fact alone warrants a political analyis of most art. And I think Hasan shows this beautifully during this episode. Props!
Do not watch him hes literally said america deserved 9/11
Lol he's a weeb some people don't.
@@benjaminramsey498 ????
Just letting you know, there are haters who doesn’t like him just cause of his political takes. Do proper research and try out his content first before deciding. Some of his haters are as insane as Tate fans.
He’s great i enjoy his streams a lot. If you would like to give his content a go you should start by watching some of his TH-cam videos on subjects that interest you Hasanabi (main channel) Hasan (second channel)
Hasan is actually right with his One Piece take. Luffy is a literal freedom fighter against an oppressive government. Cool that somebody else pointed it out.
imagine calling yourself a socialist but rooting for somebody fighting against oppressive governments lol
@@ZingoBananaaand capitalism isn’t oppressive?
@@honey2826 it sure can be, and it certainly does lead to greed and wealth inequality.
But it doesn't need an oppressive government to enforce, and it still to this day is the only economic system that actually works and has helped more people live better lives than worse overall.
@@ZingoBananaa Capitalism is the system that had hundreds of millions (if not billions, considering the timeline) living under colonialist rule for centuries, brought back literal slavery for a time, and continues to wage imperialist wars to this day.
And defintion of "oppresive" is frankly debatable, and modern governments could easily still be viewed as opressive, just less so in some regards.
@@A_B_1917 i agree, do you want to make this into a ”pick your poison” debate?
As a Turkish guy around Hasan’s age, I can definitely say there were a lot of anime in Turkey growing up. Tsubasa is as well known but there were tons like Sailor Moon, Candy Candy, Pokemon, Digimon, Bara no Versailles, Gigi, Heidi, Voltron, Mock & Sweet Dorimoguda! , Himechan no Ribon, Rayearth, Hai Step Jun. these are the ones I can remember… Hasan only remembers Tsubasa because it was about football and in Turkey football is big. I was a huge SailorMoon fan and i won contests with my drawings of Usagi-chan😊
Hasan is right about OP being a political anime. Every arc after arlong, or atleast from alabasta to current has been political LMAO
Isn't it political like, from the first chapters? Like hinting at the police structure being corrupt from the get-go, police brutality and abuse of power and all
The problem is that to a lot of weebs "political" means bad, it's fucking ridiculous. I knew media literacy was dead when i saw someone call the new Gundam series shit because it got "political".
Gundam was always political since the beginning - it can’t “get political”.
A video game like Mario can get political simply because it’s plots are really apolitical and literally about Mario/Peach/Bowser. Gundam was always political.
damn, didnt think this episode was gonna be a banger but Hasan proved me wrong, for me this was the most entertaining episode since Pete's ep.
Hasan on podcasts is very different to his solo stream self, on stream he’s constantly repeating basic Shit bc to him it’s what’s necessary to do that job, on podcasts he’s much more his loose natural self and is super funny and entertaining
@@amiracle3390 I think that is apt. I don't watch him and never cared about him, but from Connors IRL stream i gathered that the dude himself is cool, just don't need his content. Also i don't like his content for the most stupid reason, similar to Joey never watches overhyped stuff, i just don't like the huge streamers content.
Didn't even know before the comments here that he does political stuff, which also does not interest me ^^
Pete's episode was great!
@@MrStatistx nice story buddy nobody cares
Worst epsiode shouldnt have allowed him on
That favourite patron thing is a pretty cool thing they do.
This episode flew by so fast and I feel like they still have so much to talk about. This could be two times the duration and I'd honestly be down. Part 2 when
This is true i think hasan wants to talk alot more but the episode will be 4 hours if they let him lead hahahaha
IKR??? Hasan was ready to go longer
ohoo
This felt like only 30 mins of Hasan spitting with some incredibly based takes, I need a second episode of this shit
yep it felt like that
The three word summary of this episode is "Let him cook."