If you try to build something like this, consider putting electromagnets under the track to not only move the empty cars but keep them moving at scale speed. At HO or N scale, cars don't have enough inertia to keep rolling at scale speed. In the prototype, the empties are rolling about 5 MPH.
@@CARANDTRAIN This is absolutely beautiful and amazing and I can attest to the accuracy as I was leased to Try Hours Expedite in Maumee Ohio and would travel next the facility and what a sight. I also do HO scale and this would be awesome to build one of these facilities. How long did it take to build?
I wonder when there will be HO scale model Ships, like model ships that can float on actual water, or maybe static Model Ships. Either way, I like Trains, and I also like Lake Freighters.
I agree with you. It is a small portion of a layout that was big like an entire living room. It was explained in the description but interestingly TH-cam blanked the entire description. Did you see the section when the railcar is pouring the coal into the chute into the boat?
@@CARANDTRAIN I was saying I have only ever seen one cold dumper and set up like that that was that nice as nice as yours and that was on TH-cam on shorty Parker's layout it has since been torn down but it is on TH-cam and yours and his look fabulous
Before I retired thanks to covid I worked as a Mainline Driver ( engineer ) on the Rio Tinto Iron Ore Railway. The original car dumper now retired was located at Parker Point
The dumper basically used the same dead and gravity system. I would like to know for certain if Shorty Parker designed the original Hamersley Iron car dumper at Dampier Western Australia. Fantastic model.
@@CARANDTRAIN I am a locomotive engineer (train driver, depending where you are from in the world). I have worked Bellevue to Portsmouth Ohio for Norfolk Southern. The coal trains that go to Sandusky come from West Virginia via Portsmouth Ohio. I have ran (US railroaders call driving the train running it) many large coal trains from Portsmouth to the yard in Sandusky. My largest being 26,000 Tons.
NEVER MIND. Retract the response I was making. Was going to say every example I know of that was similar on the West Coast required an engine to pull the cars up. Cable pull explains it. Either it worked well or didn't. Either way, didn't make it out west...?. as far as I know....and I'm far from an expert
Yes there are. The The Norfolk and Southern Sandusky Coal Dock is still in use, and is very similar to the model in the video. Here's a TH-cam video on it if you want to know more about it. th-cam.com/video/jcfPKB9x8p0/w-d-xo.html
Coincidence roolz! Baltimore bridge videos took me to Sandusky's coaling dock ~ knew that there was a reason why I'd heard of Sandusky from over here in Yurp. This model of it is damned fine effort put to a winning purpose. Bravo ragazzo for making my day posting video evidence of this equally err... (forgive me) AWESOME! construction. P. S. Well done for keeping your cool politely when your interviewee kept missing your subtle "okay" clues that he should take a breath and let you bask in the depth of his evident passion. In silence!
My dad was Director of Port Facilities for Conrail in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Pier 124 in South Philadelphia operated much the same way. He also had charge of the facilities at Ashtabula. I never got to see that.
@@CARANDTRAIN A clear, uninterrupted demonstration that shows how the model works, keep focus on the model separate from the surrounding pictures on the wall and keep your narrative concise, avoiding unnecessary repetitions.
If you try to build something like this, consider putting electromagnets under the track to not only move the empty cars but keep them moving at scale speed. At HO or N scale, cars don't have enough inertia to keep rolling at scale speed. In the prototype, the empties are rolling about 5 MPH.
Good suggestion.
@@CARANDTRAIN This is absolutely beautiful and amazing and I can attest to the accuracy as I was leased to Try Hours Expedite in Maumee Ohio and would travel next the facility and what a sight. I also do HO scale and this would be awesome to build one of these facilities. How long did it take to build?
I changed my mind. This is the best model I have ever seen.
Your comment makes my day. What do you like the most?
Interesting and exquisite model.
Thank you. I thought so… thus the video.
A very cool model some of these coal loading facilities date back to the Pennsylvania Railroad think some of them are still in use by Norfolk Southern
Thanks for the instructive comment.
I wonder when there will be HO scale model Ships, like model ships that can float on actual water, or maybe static Model Ships.
Either way, I like Trains, and I also like Lake Freighters.
Are there none? I am surprised!
Fantastic video and a beautiful model as well. Thanks for posting this.
Thank you very much. Your comment is making my day.
Very impressive model and detail. Thanks for posting this.
You are welcome. Did you watch it completely?
A wonderful model, truly stunning!
I agree with you. It is a small portion of a layout that was big like an entire living room. It was explained in the description but interestingly TH-cam blanked the entire description. Did you see the section when the railcar is pouring the coal into the chute into the boat?
WOW !!! This is one of the best models I have ever seen./THANKS for posting this.
Happy to share it with my viewers. What makes it great?
Moi je parle francais, mais I try to speaka se Anglaise. And fail.
Wow, the fact you made every aspect of it functional is beyond outstanding !
Agree with you.
amazing layout, very unique
Indeed, especially the elevator / flipper.
@@CARANDTRAIN must’ve been a lot hours putting that together, or if it’s not a kit, a very protective box
Thousands and thousands. And what you see is a small portion of the entire layout.
Need some track/car retarders to slow the emptys down!! Really beautiful craftsmanship here!!
Yes and yes!!
This is great I would love to be able to build something like this.
Just start and see where you land. If you don’t try, you will never know.
wow i seen only one that is that good and that was shorty parkers coal dumper and hump
Can you reword please?
@@CARANDTRAIN I was saying I have only ever seen one cold dumper and set up like that that was that nice as nice as yours and that was on TH-cam on shorty Parker's layout it has since been torn down but it is on TH-cam and yours and his look fabulous
Okay that is down right cool 😎.
I agree with you. Did you watch it entirely?
This model was designed and built by a man named Shorty Parker, who died a fevlw years ago.
Before I retired thanks to covid I worked as a Mainline Driver ( engineer ) on the Rio Tinto Iron Ore Railway. The original car dumper now retired was located at Parker Point
The dumper basically used the same dead and gravity system. I would like to know for certain if Shorty Parker designed the original Hamersley Iron car dumper at Dampier Western Australia. Fantastic model.
Just awesome.
Thank you.
l'accent bien baguette 🤣
I have taken many coal trains to Sandusky, surprising that is still in service after all these years.
What do you mean “taken”?
@@CARANDTRAIN I am a locomotive engineer (train driver, depending where you are from in the world). I have worked Bellevue to Portsmouth Ohio for Norfolk Southern. The coal trains that go to Sandusky come from West Virginia via Portsmouth Ohio. I have ran (US railroaders call driving the train running it) many large coal trains from Portsmouth to the yard in Sandusky. My largest being 26,000 Tons.
NEVER MIND. Retract the response I was making. Was going to say every example I know of that was similar on the West Coast required an engine to pull the cars up. Cable pull explains it. Either it worked well or didn't. Either way, didn't make it out west...?. as far as I know....and I'm far from an expert
So how is the technology out West?
Bof... 👎🏻
What deserves this comment? Thank you for your feedback.
Look up shorty Parker’s layout tour to see whole layout he built
I grew up in Ohio, and was always fascinated with this process. such fun watching.
It is fun indeed.
I find this model simply fantastic because it has two things I like.
Great Lake Freighters, and Trains.
You are damned right. My channel
is CARANDTRAIN but I love boats too. Actually there is a channel called cars and trains and boats.
do places with that gravity thingy for the empty cars really exist? Are there any in service still?
I think you know the answer. And even the model is hard to operate. Only a few seconds each way are allowed.
Yes there are. The The Norfolk and Southern Sandusky Coal Dock is still in use, and is very similar to the model in the video. Here's a TH-cam video on it if you want to know more about it. th-cam.com/video/jcfPKB9x8p0/w-d-xo.html
Coincidence roolz!
Baltimore bridge videos took me to Sandusky's coaling dock ~ knew that there was a reason why I'd heard of Sandusky from over here in Yurp.
This model of it is damned fine effort put to a winning purpose.
Bravo ragazzo for making my day posting video evidence of this equally err... (forgive me) AWESOME! construction.
P. S. Well done for keeping your cool politely when your interviewee kept missing your subtle "okay" clues that he should take a breath and let you bask in the depth of his evident passion. In silence!
Parlate Italiano? Grazie Mille.
@@CARANDTRAIN No, I'm a crazy Inglese.
Da dove?
My dad was Director of Port Facilities for Conrail in the late 1970s and early 1980s. Pier 124 in South Philadelphia operated much the same way. He also had charge of the facilities at Ashtabula. I never got to see that.
Thank you, this is valuable information for the watchers. Plus knowing where are the similar facilities.
WHEN IT ACTUALL DUMPED THE COAL! THAT WAS AWESOME IDK THE COAL IS REAL!
IDNK, but if I had to bet I would say no. Likely a plastic black granular product.
I use lentils in one of my functioning hopper railcar.
Nice layout :)
I'm glad you like it
Amazing model that requires some fiddling to make it work... the covering of the working of the model is sketchy... too much bla bla in this vid....
What should have been done different in your mind?
@@CARANDTRAIN A clear, uninterrupted demonstration that shows how the model works, keep focus on the model separate from the surrounding pictures on the wall and keep your narrative concise, avoiding unnecessary repetitions.