Designing Sound Effects in Kyma Instead of in a DAW
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2024
- This is a step-by-step tutorial in realtime (I didn't edit the video during the creation of the Kyma sound in order to show just how quickly we can make a lot of sounds) showcasing the power of generating sound effects algorithmically and the flexibility to manipulate them in a live design session, in this case from my fingers on the iPad. A brief look is taken at what a typical sound design or sound effect session might look like and then we quickly get into the Kyma sound design environment.
For this video, I've avoided using any synthesis algorithms or 'advanced' techniques in the Kyma signal flow in an attempt to show a simple/common/basic idea all sound designers seem to use which is layers and pitch shifting with fades. While it takes a bit of work to set-up initially, it should be clear by the end of the video that it's much easier, quicker and more flexible in the long run to generate sounds this way as opposed to a giant checkerboard of sounds in a DAW. As I mention in the video, now that I have that algorithm made, I can use it as a starting point for future sound designs instead of having to start from a blank slate.
The point of this video is to showcase the power of code and the ability to create in realtime once we have created the algorithm, not to bash anyones ideas, methods or workflows.
If nothing else, it shows a different way of accomplishing something and I hope that maybe it sparks an idea in you!
00:00 - Intro
00:57 - Pro Tools (what a sound design session might look like)
02:38 - Kyma Tutorial
18:20 - Outro
For more Kyma tutorials and showcasing check out the other videos on my channel and for more info on Kyma itself here is a link:
kyma.symbolicsound.com/
Recommended reading on Kyma and computer music:
Kyma and the SumOfSines Disco Club: amzn.to/3lDiYv0
The Computer Music Tutorial: amzn.to/3noHqka
The Csound Book: amzn.to/38PZcc6
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that's nuts. But it's fantastic!
Good to hear from you. Thanks for tuning in and commenting. Do you use Kyma?
@@SpectralEvolver Never used. I working with a hardware granular synth called GR-1 Granular Synthesizer. Very easy to operate. But I have my eyes at Kyma for years to get at some point.
@@DuduAram Very cool. Granular synthesis is wonderful and the granulation in Kyma is one of my favs. I haven't used the GR-1 but good to hear you're enjoying it. Do you have sounds somewhere of it that I can hear?
@@SpectralEvolver There is a short on TH-cam, the music I used the GR-1.
@@DuduAram Thanks for letting me know. I'll have a look.
Thanks for taking the time to share some of your knowledge. Very helpful technique.
That was super useful! Thank you for doing such an amazing job for kyma community! And yes, the joke in the end made my day ;)
Very cool!
Great that you start doing kyma tutorials on youtube! Can't find much info about the system online.. I'm curious about how do you actually connect and transmit/receive messages from the ipad to kyma? could you explain the set up? Thanks!
@@SpectralEvolver Is it also possible to do the same with OSCulator? Thanks
Very cool. I'm just starting to look into Kyma, but I'm pleasantly surprised with the techniques in this video as I've actually been using a similar approach in Ableton using the Ableton Sampler and Max for Live Devices to randomize samples (via midi) and modulate parameters on the sampler either while playing by hand or just recording multiple passes to see what comes out each time. Then, of course, I can chop those recordings into new samples. Good stuff, thanks for sharing!
That's excellent! When you say 'while playing by hand' what device are you using? MIDI keyboard? And I think you're right on with making multiple passes and chopping/reusing the most desirable parts; that's what I would have done here if I pursued it further.
@@SpectralEvolver Yes, more or less. I've been using the Sensel Morph, but that's just meant standard midi for me until very recently because Live JUST became MPE compatible within the last week or so. Now I'm planning to begin mapping MPE controls to my patches in addition to the max modulation devices I've used so far. Up to this point I've only processed eurorack sessions in this manner but need to start going through my field recording files as well.
@@freewheelinghorn Fantastic! Is there somewhere to see/hear this?
@@SpectralEvolver Not yet but I'm working on that haha👌
@@freewheelinghorn I hear ya on that. Making it all is one thing, and sharing it along the way is another. Overall, how have you liked you Sensel Morph? I'm thinking of getting one...
this was super cool, looking forward to trying this. i'm brand new to this type of audio environment, only ever used a DAW. to a newcomer, how would you explain your choice in using Kyma versus other languages like MaxMSP or Pure Data? i'm trying to pick a place to start.
Hello and thanks for the note. Good question. I guess I was lucky because I was lent a Kyma system to get started all those years ago. I never even new about other sound design language options; everything was new to me. I've stayed with it because it's elegant, sounds amazing, is all about the sound and is backed by lovely people among other things like being very stable for performances. I use Max a bit as well but it's just for connecting things; I don't consider it a serious sound environment, but that's just me. Pure Data I've never used so I couldn't comment on. Csound is another language that is amazing (and it's free) but unless computer programming is your calling it will be very, very tough. At the end of the day, I just want to generate and perform interesting, emotional sounds and I've found that to be most accessible and rewarding in Kyma. Hope that helps in some way-
This is great, it would be cool to demonstrate what X and Y movements on the ipad do by starting with just one finger (one sample) down but it is very useful even just like this. My Pacamara in on its way so in the newt month I'll be flooding your comments section with demented questions. BEWARE ;-)
Thanks for watching and I'm glad to hear my videos are useful for you. Congratulation on the Pacamara and welcome to the Kyma family. You're in luck, demented questions are my favorite, and I'm happy to help in anyway I can. Feel free to drop a line, just make sure it's far-out or I won't respond haha. Cheers!
I have 11 kyma units can I daisy chain them?
Let me know please, what is the shortcut of checking of the "ordered collection" of samples? ... thank you! :)
Command ‘a’ to select all and then command ‘y’ to evaluate. You can also control click on the disk icon.
Could you please explain a bit more about that "evaluate" function? Is it something one could ask Kyma to test newly typed capitalk or smalltalk algorithms without actually compiling and running them ? Or what is exactly it for?
Hi there! It's a convenient way to evaluate expressions directly in the parameter field as well as other places. Say you wanted to know what 100 hz is in nn. You could type 100 hz nn and evaluate it. You can do arithmetic, concatenate units as in the previous example, etc. Perhaps a couple of useful ways to think about it are understanding the expression deeper, or getting the result of the expression for use elsewhere. Hope that helps! Let me know. Cheers!
I see you mention the SumOfSines book. I went looking for it and found out it is from 2012.
Do you think it is still relevant to the current version of Kyma?
(I already have the other two books you mention)
Yes, I think it is still relevant and I can recommend it. If you like my tutorials I think you will also like that book. A lot of what I share either came directly from it or was inspired by it. Dr. Stolet, who I know personally, is an excellent teacher. SumOfSines is simply the most straightforward, pragmatic book on Kyma. If you're just getting started, or you want an emphasis on live performance, you will especially benefit from it.
@@SpectralEvolver thanks! I’ll get it
This replicator for multitouch pen control prototype is not showing up. Has it changed name or where could I find the same prototype these days?
I don't have Kyma open at the moment, but if you follow my code exactly in the parameter fields you can use the 'replicator' prototype.
Hey buddy sorry to be a pain in the butt but im just running some samples through some modules in kyma and when i add a record to disk module to the chain the previous modules in the chain disappear they are still there but they aren’t visible what do i do to make them visible again ?
Hello, it's hard to say without seeing the whole flow, but if you are just trying to record, you could use the 'record to disk' option under the 'action' menu instead. Like this: th-cam.com/video/PWV_g4QYteE/w-d-xo.html
@@SpectralEvolver ill check it out thank you for the help i appreciate it highly! im only just delving into the mad world of kyma its so much different than anything else ive used
@@buttaz95 Sure thing, and welcome to the family.
If I could afford even the lowest price Kyma system is be a happy man
I hear you. You might keep a lookout for pre-owned systems. They do turn up every now and then and sometimes you can score a great deal. It’s worth it!