How do I get mine i mean my laptop has genuine windows 10 and i want to update to 11 but i don't know if my key will passed on or not, so do i make this work
@Digvijay Singh The key will pass on. If my windows 7 key works, your windows 10 key will as well. Its a free update. Just make sure you are signed into the same Microsoft account you were using for win 10 or are using the same computer when you update to windows 11. If you are just updating though windows update it will also just automatically work.
9:00 FYI there is a small thing you might wanna know. Hyper-V is a layer 1 hyper visor like VMware ESXi (not VMware Workstation or player) while virtual box is a Layer 2 hyper visor like VMware Workstation. There is a small performance difference between the 2 because a layer 1 vm speaks directly to the hardware while a layer 2 first goes through the main OS before having the hardware connected to the VM
as someone who does IT, I think the two editions are really well named. Home edition is definitely the home edition - it's a great fit for the vast majority of people to use at home. Pro edition genuinely is pro - it's meant for businesses or for definite power user that just can't do with the home edition.
As someone else who does IT, I also think so. I really like his approach to the topics. Everyone gets picked up from knowing nothing to „I understand what this thing does and what I could use it for.“. My thoughts always went „you could have added X and Y and technically Z is not that simple you need to think about B…“ No. He explains enough for everyone to get into the topic and explore the rabbit hole themselves and learn more. This could really spark an interest in IT in many people. Maybe some day, thanks to videos like this, we can stop asking: „did you try and restart the device?“
@@deathbringer2000 7 pro is probably the best windows 7 edition, at least back in the day. I don't know of any exclusive feature making Ultimate worth going out of your way to upgrade If I'm missing something, please let me know. I usually install pro on old PC repairs, I may consider doing ultimate if u have a point I can get behind
One feature I really like about pro (from several years ago; this may be different now) which I recommend people be really careful about before enabling: the ability to indefinitely delay Windows Updates. You should regularly install these updates, but I donʼt want my computer to randomly reboot itself over night; Iʼve lost more data to Windows Update closing programs when I wasnʼt looking than I have to malware.
@@rend43 Huh, okay. I last used it in the 8 or 10 era, and you needed to do something special (group policy?) to make it not restart overnight when you werenʼt looking.
It definitely got better even in windows 10 with time, the last time I've been forced to update windows was probably 4 years ago. But yes, it was horribly annoying in the beginning
RDP, Hyper-V, Sandbox, etc. are all worthwhile for more advanced users. Hyper-V can be enabled with a registry change and a command line input, but the others are truly locked behind Pro.
@@mrenesshs7698 VNC is not the same thing as RDP. RDP is actual virtualization, and is generally faster with less delay. VNC just mirrors the display. QEMU and particularly KVM are fine on Linux, yeah. But quite a lot of things are *not* fine on Linux, and so having a level 1 hypervisor on Windows is very useful. Windows Hypervisor is considered the best emulation software available Windows wise, and second only to bare metal. Even more efficient than QEMU. I do use Linux. I have a dual-booting laptop with Windows 11 and Endeavour (An Arch distro.) w/ KDE Plasma, I have many Linode servers running Arch, a Bash Bunny 2 w/ Debian running bare-metal, a few VMs of various OSes (including Arch running on my iPhone, Fedora on my Windows PC, etc.), and OtherOS running some Ubuntu flavor on my PS3.
@@mrenesshs7698 XRDP is also fine, a bit slower than a regular RDP client because it's using an X-Server to relay the graphics as if it was VNC, but oh well. It doesn't have a Wayland fork that I know of.
I've been using the pro versions ever since Windows 2000. I may not use all of the features, but it's always nice to know they're there if I need them. And, since i'm a builder, i've always gotten the OEM versions.
As the Wintel engineer, I still have gone with Pro upgrade, but also tell people to consider the upgrade only if they _really_ need some extra features, mostly people don't use OS to the extinct of doing command line or fine configuration stuff. Also, is good to see Windows 11 has gone further than Windows 10, but still not convinced to use this so-called graphical enhancement over the previous version. This video puts everything properly and clearly, kudos. Just to add, VNC could be _really_ annoying either it is Real, Tiger, or whatever. It works, sure. Until it doesn't
@@tpkowastaken thanks, I will give it a try at some point. It took me ages (like 10 years) or so to come back to Windows from Debian, so the last one was XP, and still tried to made it look like earlier versions to keep it simpler. When you have some stuff at work, you just want to relax at home. Unfortunately, too tired for having it for a hobby again, but hope that will change (probably, not)
While I do use Windows 11 Home at home, I use Windows 10 Pro for Workstations (it's pretty much the same as pro edition) in my cybersecurity class. But I might consider getting pro, because some things in pro edition seem pretty cool and useful to have. Like a remote desktop or a sandbox environment.
With the ability to run a full vm using something like vmware player, sandbox.. while cool.. isn't really much more useful. Honestly, do a vm, before you tinker take a checkpoint, then when you're done revert to checkpoint and boom.. same function, slightly more involved. With vmware player and some of the other free options out there, I don't really see the advantages.
@@AlanDike Well I actually use VMware workstation player and Virtual box, because I personally don't really like Hyper-V. And like you mentioned, the features VMware player and Virtual box has to offer is good enough for what I do.
@@pyp2205 I tend to lean hyper-v just due to performance since it's a tier 1 vs a tier 2 hypervisor like vmware player or virtualbox... If I'm actually testing things though, in general it's in kvm/qemu on my workstation and most likely doesn't involve windows in the virutalization at all...
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Well on my drive, I did actually dual boot a Linux system. But I had to reimage the drive soon after because it got corrupted after running sfc. But I remember for a lab where we either use linux, windows, or both to have a AAA server to authenticate logins into a switch (pretty much the login credentials are saved in the server instead of the switch). But I agree, Linux gives the workstation stuff you need. In fact when I work with personal servers, I prefer to use Linux because I'm not paying thousands of dollars to have a server run with Windows. There's a bunch of things out there for Linux like web consoles that make it easy to manage and use.
The group policy editor is why I have windows 11 pro. There are numerous settings that tend to reset themselves upon updating to the next windows update build. Windows explorer view settings are among them. Although at the moment I have yet found a way to stop one of the “allow apps” setting from resetting at the bottom of the Windows location settings window, via updating to a new build.
Hyper-V is also essentially for almost every AI program, I tried to make ai art with this one full app but it wouldn’t load and when I looked it up it required hyper-v all their other methods did too, so keep that in mind.
Another reason someone would want Remote Desktop support instead of some 'free' third party option is that Stylus pressure works over it. I have a Huion tablet and sometimes I wanna use Krita or Blender and 3dsmax over a remote connection with pen pressure and an active stylus. Microsoft Remote Desktop can do this
I do pro because I have a windows domain in my home - I don't technically NEED one but I used to be a network admin professionally and I guess I got used to managing Active Directory domains and also, it kind of lets me keep some of those old skills fresh in my head.
@D R I personally don't really use group policies - I do have a windows server 2022 I built specifically to run al lthe time - I was tempted to use a really small form factor - like a nuc with some kind of usb enclosure for the drives to minimize power use but settled on a medium ryzen 5 with built in graphics and a modest case and power supply I've done the thing with active directory replication and 2 domain controllers in a forest at home in the past but indeed I did not want to keep them both on all the time so I ended up turning one off and only powering it up to replicate occasionally and take backups - but it actually got really iffy being left so far behind so I demoted that to a member server and really If I didn't want to burn the license I'd probably rebuild that old server as a straight win 10 machine so I could hook it up to backblaze without paying commercial (server) rates etc...
always used pro and will continue to do so... I've lost count of the times I've tried fixing friends computers and ran into obstacles due to them being various home editions
I always get pro. if I can help it. My laptop came with home I'm not gonna go out go out of my way But anytime I do a new build it's pro. more features easier to get rid of unwanted futures. Always grate stuff.
Remote Desktop is a fantastic program. I know of no other remote control software that works the same way. For example: -- You do not need a code, from the remote computer. As long as you have login credentials on the remote computer, you can login to that remote computer, with no assistance. -- When you login to that remote computer, that remote computer's screen locks. So no one at the remote location can see what you are doing. -- Whatever was running under your login at the remote computer will be sent to your local screen. -- You can choose to have the audio stay with the remote computer, and only have the video displayed on your local computer. This was a great feature for me, because I have a laptop feeding a DAC (digital to analog converter box, for music). I am using a short USB cable between the laptop and the DAC, because long USB cables will diminish the sound quality (long story). There is a reason that no long USB cables exist. But with a short USB cable, I could not have that laptop next to me (or on my lap). It had to be next to my DAC box. I ran an Ethernet cable from a laptop that I keep next to me, to the laptop that is connected to my DAC. Using remote desktop, I can control that computer as if it was the one next to me. And the digital audio feed remained with the remote laptop, feeding my DAC. That audio option was a remote desktop option -- one that I have not seen with any other remote control software. Also, I am averse to installing 3rd party software. In this day and age, it is hard to trust any closed source software. Nearly all of them seem to phone home (in a manner of speaking). Many of them nag you to upgrade. Some will not work if you cannot contract their permission server (which I have no need to do, because my laptop has no need to be on the internet (all of my music in on its internal SSD)). Remote Desktop took care of everything. It is a wonderful remote control program, included with Windows, that does not go through any 3rd party systems somewhere on the internet. If your computers are on your own local network, then your remote control session never sees the internet.
Minor word of caution for those using TeamViewer, mainly those with accounts... I got caught in this because I do a lot of remoting to my PC when I'm in my bed sometimes and didn't have a wireless mouse or anything to use, so used TeamViewer for a while as it worked well, until they decided to lock me out. Found out they suspected me of using it in a commercial environment, but they wouldn't listen to me that my use-case is only at home through my phone and they wanted me to fork over all sorts of personal information, and I was having none of that. I basically got completely locked out of using TeamViewer because of that crap. Some other alternatives would probably be AnyDesk or even Parsec to some degree. Those could work alright for basically the same purpose that TeamViewer does.
Same. I suspect they might just do that anyway to try and pry a subscription out of people. I seem to recall they've been an utter dick to deal with by lots of people. So screw teamviewer in my experience, have used realvnc for exactly your use case for many years problem free.
Interesting topic would to cover is tunneling (putty). Open a connection from eg. work to your home server and connect via vnc to that work computer. Sometimes you dont have access to work router, but this way you can connect to your work computer... There are security risks...
I was using TeamViewer a few years ago and then they started blocking me because they felt I was using it in a business. I was using my laptop to connect to my home computer. At this point, I use Google Remote Desktop.
I was doing the same, connecting to my home PC from work or even from my laptop. When they mis-defined this as commercial activity and demanded a license I switched to NoMachine. Does the job for me 😉
I use Parsec to remotely access my Windows 10 Pro desktop machine, because it's incredibly low-latency, and acts very much as though you're sitting right there at the keyboard. It does have a couple of quirks -- if there's no monitor attached to your computer it won't work, and if there's no mouse attached it will not let your local mouse remotely-control the machine's mouse-cursor. So it's no good for "headless" machines. But it's so low-latency that you can actually play videos or even games on your remote computer as if you're sitting right there. (It requires a very good GPU to do this, BTW.). So it might not work for everyone, but it's a very good alternative to Remote Desktop, nonetheless.
For my last computer, I bought a System Builder version of Windows 7 Professional, 12 years ago. And on my new computer, I just installed Windows 11 Pro and activated it with the same key. So, I paid exactly 0 € for Windows 11 Pro on my new computer.
I'm using Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 on my laptop and regular Enterprise edition on my desktop. Didn't have to spend a single penny. Thanks massgravel.
Anydesk is a great alternative for remote desktop and even TeamViewer You can set it to auto start with the computer Make password for it so you can get un intended access Settings to optimize latency which do make a difference in slow connections Block user's input so that the controlled pc peripherals won't interfere with you And you can run it without installing it
You don’t need in alternative for group policy editor. You can get it on home edition by just putting two line in command prompt. You can find the two lines really quick online and then you have the real local group policy editor
Funny, that you first use Group Policy Editor (which is a domain thing primary, as it applies to "domain groups", it is literally made to manage policies for groups of users or groups of computers, it is in the name), and domains - the absolute most important thing in a business - only very late o:O ... Let me tell you: in a company network, domains are a must. There is just no other option. There it is not just "worth it", it is necessary. Unless the IT guy wants to administrate every PC on its own which makes absolutely no sense at all. Pro stands for "Professional" which means "Business". (In fact for WIndows Vista "Pro" was named actually "Vista Business", but for Win7 they went back to "Professional" naming scheme).
Hey Thio, Would you be able to cover the Windows Security 'LSA Protection Off' Warning Bug. There is action I can take. I got it recently, and I don't know what to do 😶🌫️
There is one major difference between RDP and the other options: RDP is a virtual desktop/session, the others mirror your console, the console being where you are with physical display/keyboard/mouse. There's pros and cons for each. Windows workstations only allow one active session at a time, so if you RDP into a machine that already has someone logged in at the console, you'll kick them off the console. If you are logging in as the same account they were on, you'll take over their session virtually. If a different account, their session will suspend much like it would with Switch User. This can cause problems if you want to share a screen with someone, though you can use Quick Assist with them. The alternatives, at least for most, only let you share the console with the other user if someone is already logged in. But then you are sharing the screen with them which could be what you want.
The best feature of Windows Pro is that you can completely disable automatic updates or what I prefer get a notification whenever there's a new update and then you can decide when you want to start it. And with MAS is doesn't makes a difference if you choose Pro or Home.
Pro is better suited to networking. It seems easier to connect to other computers using it. I got mine for free (at least free to use) from the Insider Preview program when they made it free for IP members at it's release so it didn't cost me anything more than the Home Edition.
The only machine I've bought where I had the option I chose Home, and wish I'd gone Pro, though that machine is really just for music and media, so doesn't really need Pro. I have a few refurb Thinkpads which all have pro, and I definitely prefer it.
I probably would have not minded home edition in the past if it included RDP "server". But Sandbox which I only found out about a few months ago is handy.
being able to turn off autmatic updates wasn't mentioned, but that's one of the most useful features when working from home. You don't wan't windows doing an update during work hours
Windows 11 Pro is worth it for Bitlocker, especially if it's a laptop/tablet. While most Windows mobile devices have Bitlocker enabled on Windows Home edition, it's usually limited and you can't edit it too much unless it's a Pro device.
Windows 10 LTSB is the only version even vaguely worth it, and you still need to get in there and forcibly disable as much of the monitoring as you can.
I was choosing between buying windows 11 pro key for 30$ or windows 11 pro key + life license on all office programs for 60$. I chose 30$ cause I don't need office anymore, I'm not a student
I upgraded to Windows 10 Pro just a bit before Win11 came out. Needed HyperV, and the rest seemed interesting too. 3rd party virtual machine programs weren't running the best, but HyperV has been pretty good after disabling Windows Hello. Getting a new laptop next month for school, and I'm gonna be buying a black market Windows 10 Pro key. I don't need pro on the laptop, but it's nice to have and costs like an extra $6 now. :P
You can buy a grey-market Windows 10 or 11 Pro OEM version pretty cheap. However, if you ever need to reinstall, it may not work and you may need to buy it again. However, my prebuilt desktop came with Windows 7 Pro and I paid through the MS Store for the upgrade to Pro for my Windows 10 laptop. Also, if you buy the cheap OEM Pro version, you may have to jump through some hoops to get Home to upgrade. Once upgraded, be sure to make an image backup to avoid having to buy another cheap grey-market copy.
If your needs are barebones, then Home is fine. Check your e-mail, type a letter, print a page, watch TH-cam, etc. If you do more than that, like, Entertainment, Gameplay, Programming, Video & Photo editing, than Pro is a must, no question. If you spend less than an hour or two a day on your computer, then home is for you. Funny thing is the "Hour or two" people are usually the one's who've bought those ready made computers with the OS pre-installed anyway, so depends on how much you spent to which version you get.
@@pepeshopping the only notable features that are left out is the ms store and uwp apps like camera and calculator. open source alternatives exist for the uwp apps except games.
Yo pretty cool! From a home user before to a Pro user after getting my father's old laptop, at least i can run virtual machines without 3rd party software
Keeping in mind the pro license was cheaper, and that it only cost like 4-5€, you shouldn't worry and just take it. Nowadays, there's so many windows licenses flying around
I took advantage of my schools store all the way back in 2012-14. I have several keys all pro and edu edition. As well with win server from 12-19. But the server keys I’ll never use in the real world just for messing around.
Even if you are a small business, please buy computers with pro on them trust me, it will save you money in the long run. My boss expanded the business slightly (still only 5 machines) and I had to inboard everything and set it up how she liked it. She probably paid me more to mess around with the home computers than if she got pro where it would have taken me a tenth of the time.
Hey @ThioJoe, isn't there a way to add Microsoft Group Policy Editor to a windows 10 home pc via the command line? Or something like that... Not install a third party alternative but really bringing in the same tool that is in the pro version. Does that ring a bell?
I still have a stack of pro volume licenses from windows 7/8 days when I was a network admin so I just install Windows 10 with that key on all of my systems (currently 4). As long as I can still upgrade to newer windows versions I'll probably never run out of licenses. Unfortunately Windows seems to be increasingly more of an advertising platform but I digress. I like the network sharing feature in pro better. And I'm a developer so experimenting with sandboxes etc is handy. Isn't there a limitation in Home for the number of discrete processors you can run and amount of memory? Yes, home 64 cores and 128GB ram, pro 128 cores, so if you want to use an amd thread ripper or intel xeon with lots of cores you'd better get pro. I'm still at 24 cores (13900K) so no problems there.
Oh, for those power users, Windows Home only support up to 128GB RAM. So, let's say if you use a Threadripper or Xeon (or Extreme Core), and you install more than 128GB RAM, your Windows Home won't utilised RAM beyond 128GB. Just a heads up.
i should say, windows sandbox is *_not 100% isolated_* from your main pc. not including the obvious things like network. when i changed my windows 10 media files to have the windows 11 sounds and then i opened sandbox, the VM had windows 10 *_with_* windows 11 sounds.
Windows Pro form 11 is not as apparent on the surface as Windows Pro for XP was, where after using Pro with everything being more capable and option-loaded, even File Explorer, it was actually difficult to go back and use XP Home edition (of course, by Update 3 for XP, Home edition was basically the Pro edition, where all of Pro's obvious 'surface' features were added to Home). Having said that, as a System's Administrator, PRO edition is an absolute must-have for security. It is incredible the security hacks even trusted team members innocently try doing, which used to introduce a virus across our network.
The official Remote Desktop app on mobile is actually really decent; it’s worth the extra few bucks for a Pro license on a reliable key shop. Sometimes the Pro is the same price as Home or even cheaper, at least in my case when I bought it years ago
I never needed to buy a Windows Key since 2014 because I installed the technical preview from Win10 Pro. (I had Win7 Ultimate) Even got Win11 Pro for free because of that. The Key is linked to my Microsoft Account so I can reactivate my system as many times as I want.
Hey ThioJoe, Another great video! I just have a question. Do you know any Remote Desktop app that has native Bluetooth keyboard and mouse support for iPad, to connect to Windows? Have a nice Saturday!
another difference is that the Pro edition supports upto 2TB "RAM" and the Home supports upto 128GB. It doesn't matter to most people as literally no one gets above 128GB of RAM.
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I got my pro key off the side of an old windows 7 computer my school threw out in a dumpster years ago lol. Still works for windows 11 to this day.
I got mine from my hp8440p,came pre installed, tied to my Microsoft account
Thats brill 😅 I just got mine of good old github 💀
How do I get mine i mean my laptop has genuine windows 10 and i want to update to 11 but i don't know if my key will passed on or not, so do i make this work
@@DigvijaySingh-se2ll it will be passed on. All keys work if they are updated via official windows updates
@Digvijay Singh The key will pass on. If my windows 7 key works, your windows 10 key will as well. Its a free update.
Just make sure you are signed into the same Microsoft account you were using for win 10 or are using the same computer when you update to windows 11. If you are just updating though windows update it will also just automatically work.
9:00 FYI there is a small thing you might wanna know. Hyper-V is a layer 1 hyper visor like VMware ESXi (not VMware Workstation or player) while virtual box is a Layer 2 hyper visor like VMware Workstation. There is a small performance difference between the 2 because a layer 1 vm speaks directly to the hardware while a layer 2 first goes through the main OS before having the hardware connected to the VM
That's very useful, thank you!
so you recommend hyper-V rather than VirtualBox or VMware workstation for better performance?
@@AncientLamp That means HyperV is literally the best of the three by a significant longshot, *not just in performance*
@@AncientLamp not better performance, but less overhead - if it is important for you. The recommendation is to get Proxmox on separate PC (:
@@AncientLamp hyper-v is for better performance. As going through another layer slows things down.
as someone who does IT, I think the two editions are really well named. Home edition is definitely the home edition - it's a great fit for the vast majority of people to use at home. Pro edition genuinely is pro - it's meant for businesses or for definite power user that just can't do with the home edition.
As someone else who does IT, I also think so.
I really like his approach to the topics. Everyone gets picked up from knowing nothing to „I understand what this thing does and what I could use it for.“.
My thoughts always went „you could have added X and Y and technically Z is not that simple you need to think about B…“ No. He explains enough for everyone to get into the topic and explore the rabbit hole themselves and learn more.
This could really spark an interest in IT in many people. Maybe some day, thanks to videos like this, we can stop asking: „did you try and restart the device?“
I think we all remember the edition hell with 7
@@topcomp1066 I'm living it. Stuck on 7 pro, and I *really* want Ultimate. Anytime Upgrade won't work, so I'm stuck with pro.
@@deathbringer2000 7 pro is probably the best windows 7 edition, at least back in the day. I don't know of any exclusive feature making Ultimate worth going out of your way to upgrade
If I'm missing something, please let me know.
I usually install pro on old PC repairs, I may consider doing ultimate if u have a point I can get behind
As someone who also does IT, i just use linux as most people who do IT and want to mantain their sanity do
One feature I really like about pro (from several years ago; this may be different now) which I recommend people be really careful about before enabling: the ability to indefinitely delay Windows Updates. You should regularly install these updates, but I donʼt want my computer to randomly reboot itself over night; Iʼve lost more data to Windows Update closing programs when I wasnʼt looking than I have to malware.
You can delay it in windows 11 home wdym for like 6 months even
@@rend43 Huh, okay. I last used it in the 8 or 10 era, and you needed to do something special (group policy?) to make it not restart overnight when you werenʼt looking.
It definitely got better even in windows 10 with time, the last time I've been forced to update windows was probably 4 years ago. But yes, it was horribly annoying in the beginning
Isn't that self-restarting thing fixed like 5 years ago and more? I know there was a lot of drama about that when Windows 10 came out
@@flizzycat I donʼt use Windows regularly anymore but I thought I used it more recently than that and had issues. Could be wrong.
RDP, Hyper-V, Sandbox, etc. are all worthwhile for more advanced users. Hyper-V can be enabled with a registry change and a command line input, but the others are truly locked behind Pro.
Vnc, QEMU KVM, a lot of sandbox type etc. You should use Linux. I use arch BTW
@@mrenesshs7698 VNC is not the same thing as RDP. RDP is actual virtualization, and is generally faster with less delay. VNC just mirrors the display.
QEMU and particularly KVM are fine on Linux, yeah. But quite a lot of things are *not* fine on Linux, and so having a level 1 hypervisor on Windows is very useful. Windows Hypervisor is considered the best emulation software available Windows wise, and second only to bare metal. Even more efficient than QEMU.
I do use Linux. I have a dual-booting laptop with Windows 11 and Endeavour (An Arch distro.) w/ KDE Plasma, I have many Linode servers running Arch, a Bash Bunny 2 w/ Debian running bare-metal, a few VMs of various OSes (including Arch running on my iPhone, Fedora on my Windows PC, etc.), and OtherOS running some Ubuntu flavor on my PS3.
@@Terraphice Use Xrdp?
(I don't know is there any rdp server for wayland)
@@mrenesshs7698 XRDP is also fine, a bit slower than a regular RDP client because it's using an X-Server to relay the graphics as if it was VNC, but oh well. It doesn't have a Wayland fork that I know of.
I've been using the pro versions ever since Windows 2000. I may not use all of the features, but it's always nice to know they're there if I need them. And, since i'm a builder, i've always gotten the OEM versions.
As the Wintel engineer, I still have gone with Pro upgrade, but also tell people to consider the upgrade only if they _really_ need some extra features, mostly people don't use OS to the extinct of doing command line or fine configuration stuff. Also, is good to see Windows 11 has gone further than Windows 10, but still not convinced to use this so-called graphical enhancement over the previous version.
This video puts everything properly and clearly, kudos. Just to add, VNC could be _really_ annoying either it is Real, Tiger, or whatever. It works, sure. Until it doesn't
@@tpkowastaken thanks, I will give it a try at some point. It took me ages (like 10 years) or so to come back to Windows from Debian, so the last one was XP, and still tried to made it look like earlier versions to keep it simpler. When you have some stuff at work, you just want to relax at home. Unfortunately, too tired for having it for a hobby again, but hope that will change (probably, not)
@@tpkowastaken what is "performance mode in task manager"?
While I do use Windows 11 Home at home, I use Windows 10 Pro for Workstations (it's pretty much the same as pro edition) in my cybersecurity class. But I might consider getting pro, because some things in pro edition seem pretty cool and useful to have. Like a remote desktop or a sandbox environment.
With the ability to run a full vm using something like vmware player, sandbox.. while cool.. isn't really much more useful. Honestly, do a vm, before you tinker take a checkpoint, then when you're done revert to checkpoint and boom.. same function, slightly more involved. With vmware player and some of the other free options out there, I don't really see the advantages.
@@AlanDike Well I actually use VMware workstation player and Virtual box, because I personally don't really like Hyper-V. And like you mentioned, the features VMware player and Virtual box has to offer is good enough for what I do.
@@pyp2205 I tend to lean hyper-v just due to performance since it's a tier 1 vs a tier 2 hypervisor like vmware player or virtualbox... If I'm actually testing things though, in general it's in kvm/qemu on my workstation and most likely doesn't involve windows in the virutalization at all...
@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Well on my drive, I did actually dual boot a Linux system. But I had to reimage the drive soon after because it got corrupted after running sfc. But I remember for a lab where we either use linux, windows, or both to have a AAA server to authenticate logins into a switch (pretty much the login credentials are saved in the server instead of the switch).
But I agree, Linux gives the workstation stuff you need. In fact when I work with personal servers, I prefer to use Linux because I'm not paying thousands of dollars to have a server run with Windows. There's a bunch of things out there for Linux like web consoles that make it easy to manage and use.
I just use virtual machines for my classes.
The group policy editor is why I have windows 11 pro. There are numerous settings that tend to reset themselves upon updating to the next windows update build. Windows explorer view settings are among them. Although at the moment I have yet found a way to stop one of the “allow apps” setting from resetting at the bottom of the Windows location settings window, via updating to a new build.
You can find instructions online to add the group policy editor to Windows Home.
@@mattbosley3531it's not reliable though and it doesn't always work. For whatever reasons it wouldn't enable on work computers that had Home.
Hyper-V is also essentially for almost every AI program, I tried to make ai art with this one full app but it wouldn’t load and when I looked it up it required hyper-v all their other methods did too, so keep that in mind.
Compared to older windows pro versions, the exclusive features are actually pretty cool, so definitely worth the extra cost if you ask me!
People actually pay money for Windows?
@@im1random263 I'm no purist, but I'd rather buy an actual Product key than scamper the web looking for one that works.
@@im1random263 I have the same question. Like who tf pays hundreds of dollars for an OS with ads?
@@tomasplunksnis1087 enterprises
I'd love to see a full video for Sandboxie. I always wanted to check it out but I always used VM instead
@@RogerDBDbgee A sandbox and a virtual machine are really for two different purposes, so can't really say one is better than another.
Yess please
PLEASE do a Sandboxie dedicated vid! Looks like there have been lots of changes since many Sandboxie yt vids were made.
Thio single handedly gonna make me get the Pro Edition 💀
Another reason someone would want Remote Desktop support instead of some 'free' third party option is that Stylus pressure works over it.
I have a Huion tablet and sometimes I wanna use Krita or Blender and 3dsmax over a remote connection with pen pressure and an active stylus. Microsoft Remote Desktop can do this
I do pro because I have a windows domain in my home - I don't technically NEED one but I used to be a network admin professionally and I guess I got used to managing Active Directory domains and also, it kind of lets me keep some of those old skills fresh in my head.
I'm retired and in that same boat, and kind of miss the environment and features like remote desktop
@D R I personally don't really use group policies - I do have a windows server 2022 I built specifically to run al lthe time - I was tempted to use a really small form factor - like a nuc with some kind of usb enclosure for the drives to minimize power use but settled on a medium ryzen 5 with built in graphics and a modest case and power supply
I've done the thing with active directory replication and 2 domain controllers in a forest at home in the past but indeed I did not want to keep them both on all the time so I ended up turning one off and only powering it up to replicate occasionally and take backups - but it actually got really iffy being left so far behind so I demoted that to a member server and really If I didn't want to burn the license I'd probably rebuild that old server as a straight win 10 machine so I could hook it up to backblaze without paying commercial (server) rates etc...
4:37 As a UCB senior about to graduate in 5 days, this got a laugh out of me. I would hope Berkeley has my information lol.
Sandbox and Hyper-V. Absolute must.
always used pro and will continue to do so... I've lost count of the times I've tried fixing friends computers and ran into obstacles due to them being various home editions
I always get pro. if I can help it. My laptop came with home I'm not gonna go out go out of my way But anytime I do a new build it's pro. more features easier to get rid of unwanted futures. Always grate stuff.
As someone who "doesn't" use Microsoft Activation Scripts, I can say that Windows Pro edition is definitely worth it :)
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Remote Desktop is a fantastic program. I know of no other remote control software that works the same way.
For example:
-- You do not need a code, from the remote computer. As long as you have login credentials on the remote computer, you can login to that remote computer, with no assistance.
-- When you login to that remote computer, that remote computer's screen locks. So no one at the remote location can see what you are doing.
-- Whatever was running under your login at the remote computer will be sent to your local screen.
-- You can choose to have the audio stay with the remote computer, and only have the video displayed on your local computer. This was a great feature for me, because I have a laptop feeding a DAC (digital to analog converter box, for music).
I am using a short USB cable between the laptop and the DAC, because long USB cables will diminish the sound quality (long story). There is a reason that no long USB cables exist.
But with a short USB cable, I could not have that laptop next to me (or on my lap). It had to be next to my DAC box.
I ran an Ethernet cable from a laptop that I keep next to me, to the laptop that is connected to my DAC.
Using remote desktop, I can control that computer as if it was the one next to me. And the digital audio feed remained with the remote laptop, feeding my DAC. That audio option was a remote desktop option -- one that I have not seen with any other remote control software.
Also, I am averse to installing 3rd party software. In this day and age, it is hard to trust any closed source software. Nearly all of them seem to phone home (in a manner of speaking). Many of them nag you to upgrade. Some will not work if you cannot contract their permission server (which I have no need to do, because my laptop has no need to be on the internet (all of my music in on its internal SSD)).
Remote Desktop took care of everything. It is a wonderful remote control program, included with Windows, that does not go through any 3rd party systems somewhere on the internet. If your computers are on your own local network, then your remote control session never sees the internet.
I'm running a dual CPU system. Windows Home cannot detect a second CPU. Pro can.
Just another little detail.
Amazingly useful! Thank you!
Minor word of caution for those using TeamViewer, mainly those with accounts... I got caught in this because I do a lot of remoting to my PC when I'm in my bed sometimes and didn't have a wireless mouse or anything to use, so used TeamViewer for a while as it worked well, until they decided to lock me out. Found out they suspected me of using it in a commercial environment, but they wouldn't listen to me that my use-case is only at home through my phone and they wanted me to fork over all sorts of personal information, and I was having none of that. I basically got completely locked out of using TeamViewer because of that crap.
Some other alternatives would probably be AnyDesk or even Parsec to some degree. Those could work alright for basically the same purpose that TeamViewer does.
Same. I suspect they might just do that anyway to try and pry a subscription out of people. I seem to recall they've been an utter dick to deal with by lots of people. So screw teamviewer in my experience, have used realvnc for exactly your use case for many years problem free.
When I'm trying to control my PC from bed or outside, I just use Chrome Remote Desktop
I think for free account, Team Viewer only allow a maximum of 2 hours per day, and you are limited to a few different ID connection.
rustdesk all the way! you can even host your own servers for the connection between your pc and remote
Parsec is my tool of choice for that.
The sandboxie plus program seems awesome! A video on it would be amazing!
Interesting topic would to cover is tunneling (putty). Open a connection from eg. work to your home server and connect via vnc to that work computer. Sometimes you dont have access to work router, but this way you can connect to your work computer... There are security risks...
The group policy editor was one of the most annoying things missing from Win10 Home. So lucky it can be restored.
Many thanks for this great advice.
My favourite free remote desktop solution is Parsec. It does Windows, Mac, and Linux, and it's super easy to use. No faffing around setting stuff up.
Hey Thio, TeamViewer actually uses the same technology as other VNC clients but they made it properiatry.
I was using TeamViewer a few years ago and then they started blocking me because they felt I was using it in a business. I was using my laptop to connect to my home computer. At this point, I use Google Remote Desktop.
I was doing the same, connecting to my home PC from work or even from my laptop. When they mis-defined this as commercial activity and demanded a license I switched to NoMachine. Does the job for me 😉
I use Parsec to remotely access my Windows 10 Pro desktop machine, because it's incredibly low-latency, and acts very much as though you're sitting right there at the keyboard. It does have a couple of quirks -- if there's no monitor attached to your computer it won't work, and if there's no mouse attached it will not let your local mouse remotely-control the machine's mouse-cursor. So it's no good for "headless" machines. But it's so low-latency that you can actually play videos or even games on your remote computer as if you're sitting right there. (It requires a very good GPU to do this, BTW.). So it might not work for everyone, but it's a very good alternative to Remote Desktop, nonetheless.
Keep up the good work!
For my last computer, I bought a System Builder version of Windows 7 Professional, 12 years ago. And on my new computer, I just installed Windows 11 Pro and activated it with the same key. So, I paid exactly 0 € for Windows 11 Pro on my new computer.
At the last part, you forgot to mention Anydesk as remote desktop.
Probably the best one in terms of simplicity and usefulness ;-)
@@igorthelight And for scamming Scammers :)
Home is perfectly fine for home use, Professional is a must in a proper business, mostly because of Active Directory.
I'm using Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 on my laptop and regular Enterprise edition on my desktop. Didn't have to spend a single penny. Thanks massgravel.
I've used the Pro-Edition at home since Win XP.
I'm using windows 10 pro edition and I don't know windows pro can let you using these special features, until now!
Talking about the Remote Access alternatives, there's also RustDesk, an open-source virtual desktop software!
And AnyDesk ;-)
@@igorthelight AnyDesk is NOT open-source. Lame!
Anydesk is a great alternative for remote desktop and even TeamViewer
You can set it to auto start with the computer
Make password for it so you can get un intended access
Settings to optimize latency which do make a difference in slow connections
Block user's input so that the controlled pc peripherals won't interfere with you
And you can run it without installing it
You don’t need in alternative for group policy editor. You can get it on home edition by just putting two line in command prompt. You can find the two lines really quick online and then you have the real local group policy editor
Funny, that you first use Group Policy Editor (which is a domain thing primary, as it applies to "domain groups", it is literally made to manage policies for groups of users or groups of computers, it is in the name), and domains - the absolute most important thing in a business - only very late o:O ... Let me tell you: in a company network, domains are a must. There is just no other option. There it is not just "worth it", it is necessary. Unless the IT guy wants to administrate every PC on its own which makes absolutely no sense at all.
Pro stands for "Professional" which means "Business". (In fact for WIndows Vista "Pro" was named actually "Vista Business", but for Win7 they went back to "Professional" naming scheme).
Hey Thio, Would you be able to cover the Windows Security 'LSA Protection Off' Warning Bug. There is action I can take. I got it recently, and I don't know what to do 😶🌫️
You are not alone. Same here since 1 or 2 days ago
Hm not sure i’ll have to look it up
It supposed to be fixed with a new patch, my BF’s computer is fixed, but mine still isn’t.😅
@@ThioJoe Thanks ❤
There is one major difference between RDP and the other options: RDP is a virtual desktop/session, the others mirror your console, the console being where you are with physical display/keyboard/mouse.
There's pros and cons for each. Windows workstations only allow one active session at a time, so if you RDP into a machine that already has someone logged in at the console, you'll kick them off the console. If you are logging in as the same account they were on, you'll take over their session virtually. If a different account, their session will suspend much like it would with Switch User.
This can cause problems if you want to share a screen with someone, though you can use Quick Assist with them.
The alternatives, at least for most, only let you share the console with the other user if someone is already logged in. But then you are sharing the screen with them which could be what you want.
@D R you can't just "install" RDP to home edition, it isn't a separate product. It can be hacked to enable it though, but it's just that, a hack.
You can also configure RDP to allow concurrent sessions, instead of it kicking people off.
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The best feature of Windows Pro is that you can completely disable automatic updates or what I prefer get a notification whenever there's a new update and then you can decide when you want to start it. And with MAS is doesn't makes a difference if you choose Pro or Home.
Pro is better suited to networking. It seems easier to connect to other computers using it.
I got mine for free (at least free to use) from the Insider Preview program when they made it free for IP members at it's release so it didn't cost me anything more than the Home Edition.
Great exokanations of the Windows Pro features and alternatives to it
(For nerds)Windows Pro has also built in msg in terminal so basicly it can message anybody of anything in a messagebox and can be used for pranks
The only machine I've bought where I had the option I chose Home, and wish I'd gone Pro, though that machine is really just for music and media, so doesn't really need Pro. I have a few refurb Thinkpads which all have pro, and I definitely prefer it.
@enrique amaya I do, and I'm not, but I don't get the relevance of your reply.
I never knew windows pro has a virtual machine, THANK YOU
I would reccomend sunshine + moonlight for the remote connection.
I probably would have not minded home edition in the past if it included RDP "server".
But Sandbox which I only found out about a few months ago is handy.
being able to turn off autmatic updates wasn't mentioned, but that's one of the most useful features when working from home. You don't wan't windows doing an update during work hours
Windows 11 Pro is worth it for Bitlocker, especially if it's a laptop/tablet.
While most Windows mobile devices have Bitlocker enabled on Windows Home edition, it's usually limited and you can't edit it too much unless it's a Pro device.
Depends on where you take your laptop and what you store on it
Laughs in Filevault 😂
Windows 10 LTSB is the only version even vaguely worth it, and you still need to get in there and forcibly disable as much of the monitoring as you can.
Literally what I said. I run 2021 on my main laptop.
this but LTSC 2021
Im using linux mint .. no need to choose between "we will read and listen to everything you do" or "we will read and listen to everything you do"
Wait, are you throwing shade at Microsoft or Canonical?
Parsec is also a good remote desktop software
i mainly use it to play local games with my friends remotely
I was choosing between buying windows 11 pro key for 30$ or windows 11 pro key + life license on all office programs for 60$. I chose 30$ cause I don't need office anymore, I'm not a student
i didn't even realise deleteme was the sponsor until the sponsor segment ended
I used GPEdit to lock in my Windows version to 10, build 22H2, and never lets it upgrade itself to Windows 11.
I upgraded to Windows 10 Pro just a bit before Win11 came out. Needed HyperV, and the rest seemed interesting too. 3rd party virtual machine programs weren't running the best, but HyperV has been pretty good after disabling Windows Hello.
Getting a new laptop next month for school, and I'm gonna be buying a black market Windows 10 Pro key. I don't need pro on the laptop, but it's nice to have and costs like an extra $6 now. :P
>buying a black market Windows 10 Pro key
Imagine actually buying Pro keys instead of using KMS activators
@enriqueamaya3883 what does religion have to do with this?????
man, no Parsec mentions? it's so good!
For remote Desktop I use Parsec.
For remote gaming I use Sunshine/Moonlight.
Great video. Thank you.
I have 3 systems on emachines E520
1. Windows 7 home basic
2. Windows 7 professional
3. Windows 7 home premium
You can buy a grey-market Windows 10 or 11 Pro OEM version pretty cheap. However, if you ever need to reinstall, it may not work and you may need to buy it again. However, my prebuilt desktop came with Windows 7 Pro and I paid through the MS Store for the upgrade to Pro for my Windows 10 laptop. Also, if you buy the cheap OEM Pro version, you may have to jump through some hoops to get Home to upgrade. Once upgraded, be sure to make an image backup to avoid having to buy another cheap grey-market copy.
If your needs are barebones, then Home is fine. Check your e-mail, type a letter, print a page, watch TH-cam, etc. If you do more than that, like, Entertainment, Gameplay, Programming, Video & Photo editing, than Pro is a must, no question. If you spend less than an hour or two a day on your computer, then home is for you. Funny thing is the "Hour or two" people are usually the one's who've bought those ready made computers with the OS pre-installed anyway, so depends on how much you spent to which version you get.
TheoJoe, youve just saved me $100. Thank you! As always, you the man!
I already have the best Windows edition ever, IoT Enterprise LTSC.
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I guess you could, but I wouldn't run a enterprise operating system on my home computer
It’s the SAME code, just less default apps and features.
@@pepeshopping the only notable features that are left out is the ms store and uwp apps like camera and calculator.
open source alternatives exist for the uwp apps except games.
Yo pretty cool! From a home user before to a Pro user after getting my father's old laptop, at least i can run virtual machines without 3rd party software
I got Windows Pro for free because I had an old Windows 7 Professional key lying around. Saved myself 100 bucks!
I would like it if you could do a separate in-depth review of Sandboxie Plus in a future video.
Keeping in mind the pro license was cheaper, and that it only cost like 4-5€, you shouldn't worry and just take it.
Nowadays, there's so many windows licenses flying around
I'm on Education 10 and have most of these features nice :)
I took advantage of my schools store all the way back in 2012-14. I have several keys all pro and edu edition. As well with win server from 12-19. But the server keys I’ll never use in the real world just for messing around.
Another alternative to RDP/TeamViewer/VNC is the Chrome Remote Desktop
Even if you are a small business, please buy computers with pro on them trust me, it will save you money in the long run. My boss expanded the business slightly (still only 5 machines) and I had to inboard everything and set it up how she liked it. She probably paid me more to mess around with the home computers than if she got pro where it would have taken me a tenth of the time.
Hey @ThioJoe, isn't there a way to add Microsoft Group Policy Editor to a windows 10 home pc via the command line? Or something like that... Not install a third party alternative but really bringing in the same tool that is in the pro version.
Does that ring a bell?
If I ever go back to windows, this is good to know
Thanks TJ~
Chrome Remote Desktop is a good alternative also!
I still have a stack of pro volume licenses from windows 7/8 days when I was a network admin so I just install Windows 10 with that key on all of my systems (currently 4). As long as I can still upgrade to newer windows versions I'll probably never run out of licenses. Unfortunately Windows seems to be increasingly more of an advertising platform but I digress.
I like the network sharing feature in pro better. And I'm a developer so experimenting with sandboxes etc is handy.
Isn't there a limitation in Home for the number of discrete processors you can run and amount of memory? Yes, home 64 cores and 128GB ram, pro 128 cores, so if you want to use an amd thread ripper or intel xeon with lots of cores you'd better get pro. I'm still at 24 cores (13900K) so no problems there.
Virtualbox vs hyper-v are different and you can't just compare them because virtual box is a type 2 hypervisor when hyper-v is type 1
i think joining your workstation to a windows server domain is reason enough to get pro. never know when you might want to set up a home server
Oh, for those power users, Windows Home only support up to 128GB RAM. So, let's say if you use a Threadripper or Xeon (or Extreme Core), and you install more than 128GB RAM, your Windows Home won't utilised RAM beyond 128GB. Just a heads up.
i should say, windows sandbox is *_not 100% isolated_* from your main pc. not including the obvious things like network. when i changed my windows 10 media files to have the windows 11 sounds and then i opened sandbox, the VM had windows 10 *_with_* windows 11 sounds.
I like pro since it has a option for remote control from other devices
In windows 10 home I have some of these features, for exemle: Remote Desktop or Group Policy Editor.
You can connect to another PC using Home, but the PC you connect to must have Pro
Windows Pro form 11 is not as apparent on the surface as Windows Pro for XP was, where after using Pro with everything being more capable and option-loaded, even File Explorer, it was actually difficult to go back and use XP Home edition (of course, by Update 3 for XP, Home edition was basically the Pro edition, where all of Pro's obvious 'surface' features were added to Home). Having said that, as a System's Administrator, PRO edition is an absolute must-have for security. It is incredible the security hacks even trusted team members innocently try doing, which used to introduce a virus across our network.
Chrome RDP makes a good alternative for the remote desktop feature. It is a simple tool, similar to Windows Quick Assist.
The official Remote Desktop app on mobile is actually really decent; it’s worth the extra few bucks for a Pro license on a reliable key shop. Sometimes the Pro is the same price as Home or even cheaper, at least in my case when I bought it years ago
Just get it for free
Thanks!
What is your current Windows Pro or Home?
1:20 Windows Sandbox is cool. I wish I had that. Not paying $100 for it.
I never needed to buy a Windows Key since 2014 because I installed the technical preview from Win10 Pro. (I had Win7 Ultimate)
Even got Win11 Pro for free because of that.
The Key is linked to my Microsoft Account so I can reactivate my system as many times as I want.
my school have fast computers, with Intel Core i5 10505, 16 GB Ram, 512 GB SSD storage, and of course, the pro edition of Windows 11.
Hey ThioJoe, Another great video! I just have a question. Do you know any Remote Desktop app that has native Bluetooth keyboard and mouse support for iPad, to connect to Windows? Have a nice Saturday!
another difference is that the Pro edition supports upto 2TB "RAM" and the Home supports upto 128GB. It doesn't matter to most people as literally no one gets above 128GB of RAM.