Iwata WS400 OBS Series 2 v Series 1 For Basecoat
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- My ramblings on the Anest Iwata W400 OBS Series 1 and Series 2 for base coat, hope you enjoy it.Thanks for watching everyone. It really is appreciated 👍
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I been having lots of problems with clear coat and the 4000b Ntools.....it laid down with lots of imperfections ... until I decided to do what you usually do .. warming up the clear coat 😂, got a cheap rice cooker this morning from Argos....let in the clear without hardener for 10 minutes to up to 40c....then once added the cold hardener went down a couple of C......,I then sprayed...🎉🎉🎉🎉 I could see and hear the difference on how was coming out from the gun....I finally have a perfect finish 😂, thanks Pete 👍
Ps: where do u get those plastic bottles?
Hi Mate, Yeah, warming it up certainly helps the clear flow out.
I get my bottles on Ebay, look out for HDPE bottles, and they are fully solvent resistant
Your comparisons are very good, here in Brazil we don't have a channel that makes these comparisons very good, your work is very impressive.
Hi buddy, Thank you, I think the best way to test these guns is one after the other, same paint same temperature, same painter and same component, then you, the viewer , can see any difference, good to hear you like the videos, it's much appreciated, cheers 👍
Another great video. Thank you. I know most of your viewers are automotive painters. I actually paint in the motion picture industry. My WS400 is used to paint doors and large surfaces. It’s a cannon. Very happy with it
Hi Mate, Yes, most are automotive based, although there are also furniture painters, guitar painters, and nautical painters in amongst them, your the first I know of in film industry so it good to know there's even more industries than I thought, cheers buddy, appreciate the comments 👍
good video got to love the manufactures sales pitch with there new models some times
Hi Mate, Sometimes I wonder if I'm on the same planet as some of these guys and girls showing us these new guns.
They rave about them, saying how much they have improved etc, then when you get hold of one, the performance difference just isn't there. Sure, it looks different, and parts don't interchange, it feels a little different maybe but the performance is sometimes indistinguishable from the original.
Appreciate the comments buddy, thanks 👍
Hi Pete, there is no denying that both guns lay the basecoat really nice and smooth, I remember you saying a long while ago when you first got these guns that they are exactly the same so I don't know how they can say it's a series 2 as the only real difference is the addition of the digital version and that the split tip now lines up with the air horns on the clearcoat gun where before they didn't, correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's about it🤷♂🤔
I've never owned the original WS400 so I can't compare them but I love my Series 2 digital clear gun and apart from the weird battery issue with it still showing low battery after replacing it and the display being a bit dim it's been fine and the black chrome finish on mine is still like new plus it's always been kept in my workshop (AKA shed) since the day I got it about 2 years ago👌😎
Cheers Pete and I hope you are a bit warmer where you are🥶👍
Hi John, I am certainly a bit bemused by all the hype about the Series2, certainly they are very good, but they always were.
I get the WS400 Series 2 Clear Coat gun being easier to use, so most people will get on with it better, but I just don't see it in the other 2, the OBS & LS400.
I'm just a bit sceptical as to all the game-changing headlines I'm seeing now, certainly not that game changing from where I see it, cheers mate 👍
Yeah I know what you are saying Pete, these big manufactures seem to like over hyping their latest offerings maybe it's more out of desperation than the fact they have just reinvented the wheel🤦♂🤷♂😂
@JohnWD40TC02 Yeah, it just makes me wonder sometimes 🤔, you would think they are light years ahead of their last one. In reality, it's just a restyling thing.
As you know, they are good guns but always have been, cheers mate 👍
Try it with a clear coating for everyone to see what they're capable of
Hi buddy, yeah, I will get round to it. Maybe put it against the WS400 clear version ?
Cheers buddy 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I look forward to your upcoming videos
Thank you, much appreciated 👍
YES PETE I LOVE THAT GUN WS400 DIGITAL OBS BLUE CAP 1.3 WHATS IT LIKE ON AIR COMPARED TO THE LS400 SERIES 2 ET ENTECH GREEN CAP 1.3
Hi Andrew, It's uses around 12cfm compared to the LS400, which uses around 16.5cfm. It's around the same as the Devilbiss Tekna Gti Pro Lite TE20 setup
You have to remove the guage every time you clean and you wont have a problem. I have 3 of these spray guns and have not had a problem with the guage. If you keep the guage on while running thinners on it it will definitely damage it quickly.
Hi Jeremy, Yes, you need to remove the gauge and put the plug in.
The people who have had troubles have done this, the gauge still works but is faint even after battery replacement, or, on some the magnets have gone, some the chrome has started blistering.
They are replaced under warranty, but it doesn't give you much fath in the build quality.
@peteshobbies5383 yeah not much faith for sure. I clean my guns differently than a gun washer so mine have been fine. I use a thinner sprayer so I never have to partially submerge or saturate the spray guns. But completely agree these guns should be able to hold up to any spray gun washer
@jeremyoetken2094 Yeah, that's the same cleaning process I use , I haven't had problems with them either, or any other in handle digital gauges for that matter.
Great video. So the original WS400 base gun doesn’t spray any different than the new WS400 series 2? The original models can be found for less than $550. The newer series two is almost twice that.
Hi buddy, I really can't see any difference, physically, of course, but in delivery, no.
The ingredients are the same, tip and cap are the same, they have changed the threads so they are not compatible but in my book they spray the same.
You will always find the older model much cheaper as it's now old stock. Once they are sold, you are then obviously left with no choice, so we will have to pay the new price.
Aye pete off topic where did you get the small hard cup for the devilbiss prolie? Look like a 4 or 6oz cup
Hi Eric, I get them off ebay , they are 100ml so around 4oz, here's the link,
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125423325848?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ECrBiOqaRCW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=v5EZyL9iR9-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hello, I have been watching your videos for a long time and I really like how you do it. I would like to ask for advice. I own an anest iwata ws 400 1.4hd clear 1 series, I am not satisfied with the atomization and would like to try the 1.3 OBS tip for applying clear coat with finer atomization. But it is not clear to me why in the technical data, when setting OBS 1.3, the liquid flow rate is 160 ml/min at a pressure of 2 bar and an air flow rate of 370 l/min. Logically, it should atomize finer with less liquid flow (160ml/min). You write that the classic ws 400 clear applied a dry spray on the basecoat and that only the OBS setting solved it. So does OBS use a different amount of air and liquid flow than the manufacturer's specifications to make the spray wet? My question is whether I can achieve a finer atomization of the colorless varnish with the 1.3 OBS nozzle than with the hd nozzles. Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi, the OBS tip has different size air holes, they are smaller , this video is on the new version but the differences are exactly the same, it may explain it better , hope that helps,
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Great guns I know but I personally couldn't get on with the old series's and my work time is very nearly over so wont be buying series 2 my Suzuki bandit project is finally finished so I'll send you a vid when reassembled it came out really nice 😊😊😊😊😊😊
Hi Dean, I always liked the Bandits. I nearly bought a 1200, many moons ago but didn't in the end.
It'll be good good to see what you're been up to, mate
@@peteshobbies5383 shoot a vid then post it to your channel 👌👌👌
Pete, did you tty to replace just center piece from both air caps? For me they looks the same size but outside ring a little bigger on version 2.
Hi Walter, No, I haven't tried to swap them. The seal on the series 1 is difficult to remove without deforming it, so I thought it best not too
@@peteshobbies5383 Ok, Thanks.
Pete are you using a water based or solvent based paint with your OBS?
Hi Mate, Yes, mainly solvent base coat but I have used waterbourn in it as well with good results 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 sounds good. I mostly shoot solvent, based on the manufacturer I use. I purchased the obs tip yesterday.
Hi pete ive just come across a premium spray gun by sealey the HVLP05, Wondering if you've tried it and it's any good?
Hi Mate, I haven't used or seen one, I just looked it up, and I'm guessing it is a Chinese gun of similar styling to the Devilbiss Neptune
It all comes down to price really, if it's not too expensive, then it's worth a try, but there are a lot about in this bracket, so I would be weary of spending too much
@@peteshobbies5383 If I bought one would you consider giving it a review? I'm curious to how it paints, i cannot find 1 review online anywhere 😅
Hi Pete, is this WS400 OBS Series 2's cap and needle interchangeable with WS400 Clear Series 2 and LS400 Series 2?
Hi Ben, yes, the gun bodies are all the same on the series 2, so if you change the cap and tip from one to another you change the gun to whatever tip and cap you are using, hope that answers your question, cheers mate 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Truly appreciate for your answer, mate!
@benjaminchu6699 You're welcome buddy 👍
Hi Pete have you tried spraying clear through the blue base gun?
Hi Mate, No, I haven't. I haven't tried clear through either of these, I put clear through the original LS400 after a number of people said try it, and it's very, very good, but quite slow.
I will get round to it sometime, though 😄
Great video. Does parts from ws400 fit w400 models?
Hi buddy, it depends on what model of W400, the Bellaria won't accept any WS400 part, the W400 WBX and WB will take the tip and needle from the WS400 Series 1, no Series 2 parts will fit the W400, basically they changed the pitch in the threads on the new model
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Then the 4 splitt nozzle can replace the 3 splitt on the wbx? I have a bent needle and they sell ws parts on aliexpress.
@adrianlk1972 Yes, the tips are interchangeable, it slows the gun down a little, but that depends on the size of the holes in the tip.
The genuine Iwata needles are the same, so I presume the Chinese setups are the same, but sometimes they get it wrong, but hopefully, they are direct copies
I thought the blue cover toned it a little better.
I really couldn't see that. Obviously, I have used these guns on other projects, so my opinion is based on more than just this video, but for me, there's nothing between them performance wise, thanks for watching, buddy 👍
Hi Pete have you done any videos on mixing paint.
Hi Mate, No, I've never thought about it, I presume you mean from a paint scheme rather than just thinning paints ?
Mixing paint ie ratios brand of clear coat hardener ect
@zacozersky-brown1689 It all depends on the paint or clear manufacturer. The technical data sheet will give you the ratios needed. This is normally 1 to 1 on basecoat and 2 to 1 on clear coats, but that can vary depending on the product
Hello it’s me again 🙏
What extra mini spray gun would you recommend me for 2K filler/primer? 👀
There isn't one really as no one makes them with bigger tip sizes. The only one I can think of is the Iwata Airgunza AZ4 or, much more expensive, the Satajet 4400B
@@peteshobbies5383 that you sooooooo mach 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@ali-sleimanchehade6129 No worries 👍
Does the WS400 OBS lay flatter than the ProLite?
Hi Ray, It's really a base coat gun, so laying flat isn't the be-all and end all, but the answer to your question is yes.
The atomisation on these split tip guns is definitely better than their standard counterparts , and that applies to other makes, including Devilbiss
The funny when someone saying way way better! But in reality, nothing at all. For me version 2 even looks ugly ...
Hi Walter, it always a matter of personal taste with styling, but there's no doubt that with these OBS guns, it is only the styling that's different , despite all the hype, cheers mate 👍