How I Lube Switches - Boba U4 Silent Tactile Switch Review
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:38 This is Betty
1:08 What the sound tests are on
1:26 Stock sound test
2:25 Keyboard mods
2:36 Boba U4 Gazzew Silent Tactile Review
5:44 How I Lube
5:54 What You Need to Lube Switches
7:13 The Actual Tutorial
18:07 Sound test lubed with Tribosys 3203
19:30 Post-lube verdict
19:57 Do I recommend?
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congrats on 20k subs!
Nice to see you're taking the time out to talk to everyone. Hope the dissertation and uni is going well g
Thank you so much 😀 Love your content!
@@elijahbyoun1886 cherry mx bruh
Hey Glarses! Big fan... Just wondering, have you watched anime?
Now she has over 250k 😀
I once went full on taeha types lube style... i am a monk now, i have become patience itself.
Nice, if only I could
This actually made one of the best sounding switches sound better. Amazing.
Excellent! I'm thinking of getting a set of these for my next build so that I have something quiet to go back to the office with. This is just the review I was looking for.
This review and guide is why I am putting Boba U4s in my very first custom keyboard (I just ordered all the parts this week). Thanks for the guide and the info!
How did it go with the Boba U4s? Would you recommend them for heavy typing (I don't do any gaming). Thanks
congratulations on 20k subscribes, been here since like 8k. i've always loved your straight to the point kind of videos and calm reviews.
Awesome! Thank you!
*CRITICAL* note when assembling boba switches (from Gazzew):
*MAKE SURE THAT STEM IS PRESSED DOWN TO CLEAR THE LEAF BEFORE YOU SNAP THE TOP ON*
When assembling switches its very important to follow this process - _if you don't you'll risk damaging leaf_
1. Stack all parts but don't snap on top (Base + spring + stem + top)
2) Hold switch with pins against index/middle finger, and stem/top against thumb
3) Make sure top is aligned correctly on base (4 lock arms in base lock arm slots)
4) Use thumb to press down stem until it bottoms out (but don't apply pressure to top)
5) When confirmed that stem has bottomed out in base, using thumb widen pressure to included top -- snap top down onto switch base
6) Confirm that the 4 lock arms are all snapped down (none are riding high that would cause non-uniform top-to-base alignment)
7) Press/release stem a couple of times to confirm functionality
Loved the byyyeeeeeee at the end. You're so cute. Also congrats 20k subs!!!
Thank you so much!!
I love the bobas, my fav switch. They don't need switch films due to the tight fit of the stems. Personally I stem swapped for Invyr UHMWPE linear stems with 60g bottom out springs. I would love to try the Naevy UHMWPE stems in the Boba housing at some point.
' I am cheap' spends thousands on keebs.
Wallet: laughs, haha good one.
Great job keep it up. Its crazy how you put so much detail into your videos and you still have amazing potential for future growth!
Thank you so much!
I have the same keyboard, this is exactly what I'm looking for, thanks!
Great video as always, great for beginners in teaching how to lube switches.
Glad you enjoyed it
Beautiful ring!
I’ve had these switches since his prototypes. Started with 55g, now I have a TKL of 62g with boba top housings, lubed with gazzew’s blends. I love the tactility and feel of the D bump profile. For the price, the quality of his switches competes with the more hyped. There’s a large group experimenting with these switches on the frankenswitch subreddit.
Oh that's super cool, didn't even know that subreddit existed
@@SwitchandClickOfficial There's a sub for _anything_ and _everything_ ...
*Maybe even multiple on the same subject*
@@SwitchandClickOfficial damnit..... my mistake it’s r/switchmodders. Got the names mixed up
I have the non rgb variant, and they are honestly my favorite switch for some time now.
Sounds so nice
thank you very much for the boba u4 review cuz i am interested with buying those, i think i will get em next year in like february
Good choice!
love the video!
OH the video we've all been waiting for, Boba gang is rising!
People who don't know this switch yet, you are very lucky, my life would've been so much easier if this video came out like 3 weeks ago! 🤣
Enjoy!
This switch is amazing!
@@SwitchandClickOfficial and it lends itself so well to modding and franken-switching as well :)
I use a small screwdriver to open Kailh type switches. I find the opener much harder to use. Just insert a very small flat head screw driver in each flap (like you did for the Cherry-style). Pops off when you do both sides. It takes a lot less pressure than the opener, IMO.
Very nice review, now i know what i'm sort of getting myself into. I ordered them for creating Holy Bobas with my left over Halo Trues from my Drop CTRL HP! Rama Kara Moon, EPBT Sea Blue Keycaps, Durock Stabs ordered and i have some 205g (Because eh, don't feel ordering other lube, i will use it sparely)... My wallet is now empty and it hurts but i am pretty hyped for my second board! It will be my first tactile board and i am pretty hyped for feeling the bump!
Though i regret getting into this hobby a lot lol, so. Insanely. Expensive. Oh. My. God. But i could never go back to unmodded boards!
Yo these switches are so fucking fire. Don't sleep on these! Holy Panda Feel while being silent as hell
Yes finally, these will be going into the new rama thermal +
i finally lubed my keyboard switches, it sounds better now :D
Such a good video!
Thank you!!
we got the same background :) and nice video
Hello! Loving your videos. What’s the vertical mouse over there?
Thank you! This is very helpful! I will try to lube some Akko Jelly Purple for the first time! :)
Good luck!
That sweater is dope
@Betty - do you prefer these switches or the Zeal blue zilents v2?
Hi nice and professional video very interesting and your voice is soo relaxing.Can you tell me if they are compatible with gmmk hotswap board and if are better the 62g for my first mech keyboards instead of 68g?thank you.
is this the laziest method? have you tried rubbing the brush inside the switch after pressing it down?
Glorious Pandas, lubed, are great. I use a mix of SuperLube and regular dielectric grease. It sounds and feels great. There's a slight rattle in my backspace but other than that, it's great.
Hi :) so the difference by lubing tactile switches is that we dont lube the legs and dont touch the leaf?
Hi I just bought these and the spacebar is too loud. So based on your suggestion I tried the cherry mx silent red but it’s still just as loud. Any other tips? I’m using a Keychron Q2 Pro. Thanks!
Hellow if you dont mind me asking, what is the specific name of the super lube you are using?
But Betty, is lubing the u4 even worth it?? I ordered them and also lube but im seeing more and more people say I shouldnt even take the effort to :o
are you lubing inside the hole in the bottom housing? or just around it
I used my wife's eyebrow tweezers and she was very happy about it.
LOL I would hate that
Is superlube more viscous than krytox 105? Thanks.
What type of super lube are you using for the springs?
This is the first place I’ve ever heard of anyone using a few linear switches along with tactiles. I was thinking of doing that for arrow keys. Is that a thing people do? Also wondering how the spring weight on the linear should compare to the tactiles…
Anyway, thanks for another great video. I’m sold. I was just starting to think I needed something silent so I could type during meetings.
I do this - i have some red's that came with my Keychron Q2 - I left them in the arrows and page up/down but swapped out the rest for the Drop panda tactiiles. Totally works.
Quiet tactiles are so hard to find and also feel good... Matias quiet click (actually tactile) Alps switches are quite good, too
Well, they register way, way before the bump, so not sure how to classify them.
Also FYI Matias are hot garbage compared to real ALPs. Its a shame Matias has chosen not to innovate or recreate the complicated ALPs design.
@@theknightthatgoeshmm3127 complicated Alps are not economically viable to produce (11 parts if I remember)
The reliability was also shit, especially with dust.
are these compatible in keychron K6? would be my first silent mechanical keyboard. tia
that wedding ring is huge
It seems that if you don't mind the lube in the cross top, putting the stems and springs in a bag with a lube and shaking a bit would be enough. That would definitely get lube to all the moving parts and you could skip the brush work 100%.
What mouse is that and where did you get it?
Would love to see a comparison to regular and aqua zilent v2s
Thanks!
No problem!
Remember ladies and gentlemen!
Lubricant is important
Are Boba U4t silents comparable to Topre switches/ Niz EC Switches I heard they are the closest feeling switches in terms of feel and sound
You know, I got these switches a few months ago, and they sorta feel like better membranes. Silent and tactile, but less mushy and smoother feeling
For what it's worth, I never had issues with the switches feeling stuck with OEM caps when hitting them on the corners or sides (got the same clear tops style from RGBKB), and I really like them stock.
Nice!
Yeah that rubber bottom-out, but that's what makes it silent so it depends if you're willing to take that sacrifice on the feel for a more silent sound.
Just in case anyone wants to know gazzews method of lubing these and his newer u4/u4t switches is to use a light lube krytox for example, hell even water it down with another lube i believe to reduce the viscosity.
I have some really good low viscosity paintball lube i personally love using for mine.
But what gaz recommends is using that lube uve acquired across the stem and spring no need to oil or bag lube.
You donut dip the springs (get a good coating of lube on the bottom that looks like a donut, roughly the bottom compressed part and maybe another wind or two above them.
Plop that back in and then lube the inside part of the stems rails and not the squishy pads on the bottom or the tactile part that interacts with the leaf spring. Slide the stem up and down to let it lubricate/evenly spread it.
Reassemble and be careful not to forget to keep the stem bottomed out the entire time your put the switch housing pieces back together.
do you have exparience with the g-lube? one of my options is a gmmk compact, gat reds lubed with g-lube, kbdfans nordic pbt keycaps/hyperX pbt pudding caps. gmmk like 80, gat reds 40, lube 10, kbdfans pbt keycaps 50 + all the shipping. does it sound moderately good? i know it isn't really top, but i can't really have anything better right now. can you recommend me any good gateron/kailh switches that aren't yellows? like the most basic ones, what linear would you get? when i get my setup, i will game on it probably 90% of the time.
I haven't used G-lube
Wanted to experiment with my super lube and 205g0. Decided to just use 205. Forgot to lube top housing and I’m not upset? Idk. My ocd wants to go back to the one switch and see how much different it is but I already got rid of what little ping there was (durock silent shrimps). Might just call it good on not lubing the top housing. I’m so unsure lol! Still a noob.
Nice, repping the delguard
just typing on them was lubing them although but only donut dipping the springs and the sliders thats it... they are awsome acualy the 68gramm version is imho more tactile than the holy pandas but very very similar the tactility starts right at the start exactly how i like it
I think the tactility on the Boba U4 is way better than my Holy Panda board.
Probably my 2nd or 3rd favourite tactile.
im trying to find out which superlube you use for the spirngs. i checked your wesbite guide but couldnt find any info. i know gpl 105 is better but more expensive
51004
How is the tactility and feel of the Boba U4 vs Boba U4T? It would be nice to have all the strength of the U4T in a silent package for office use. Please let me know. Thank you.
lol she liked the comment and didn't reply
@@dominikcygan2664 L
Where do I buy Krytox 205go?
Put the stem from a Halo True in the Bobas with a touch of lube and you have a Sake or Holy Boba, which is the best tactile switch in my opinion.
I might have to try it but I've found most stems, especially tactile stems, just don't fit the housing. I tried T1 clones, MX Clears, among other and it was just too tight.
Interesting, maybe for my next build if my first keeb's custom clearance doesn't chenge my mind 😅
Go for it!
Where do i buy the switches
20:32 more aggressive than the halo clears but less tactile than holy pandas. I'm not sure what aggressive means? If it refers to tactility, shouldn't halo clears and holy pandas have the same tactility? Or is there another factor than the legs on the stem for tactility? When I watch youtubers explain about tactility, they only talk about the legs on the stem.
lmao hearted but no reply. I wonder the same
@@snufnik she should have replied -_-
you should def hold down the stem of bobba switches when taking apart or reassembly, that leaf can be ruined from the shock
maam idk if youll see this but green switches,hyper x red,aqua or the new razer reds? for gaming and typing
HyperX Reds
Have you tried Niz EC switches? I am wondering whether the lubed boba u4 would feel similar to Niz EC switches...
They feel pretty different
@@SwitchandClickOfficial Oh,,, I wanted the Niz EC so badly and was hoping those two could be similar. Thank you so much for your reply tho!
I was checking for silent tactile switches. I just found switches with an actual force >= 60g
Do you know silent tactile switches that require less force?
Great video btw
Not ones that are this tactile, probably best to spring swap
@@SwitchandClickOfficial thanks for your reply. So, do you think I can buy on of them and replace the spring with a 30g? Is there any disadvantages?
I got a couple of extra tips! thanks!! Funny that you have an arm rest but you dont really rest 19:01 :P
Betty, could you please link here superlube for springs? I can't buy one in my country so I need to find dome substitution for it. Thanks in advance
Is there a Krytox 105 available in your country?
@@SwitchandClickOfficial no, only 205g0. I'm looking for something like 105. Analog SuperLube included. My board cost me around 50 $. And I don't want to spend 20$+ for lubricants only... Or is there any chance to lube springs with 205g0?
MX Vertical gang!
are the switches like zilents? silent tactile, around 60+ spring
boba u4 www.rgbkb.net/products/rgb-silent-tactile-switch?variant=37403073708184
Very similar, but I've never owned zilents, only tried at a meetup
"Remember, less is more"
Less is more haha unless I'm doing it, then it's ehh I just want this done with
Noob question: Should you loob your switches if you like their tactile bump? Will they miss a lot from that feeling?
only if you lube the legs you will lose the tactility.
i just lubed my akko v3 pro creamy blue switches. it sounds much better it feels buttery smooth .
Are they compatible with outemu-only hotswap board?
Any hotswap board that lets you put 5-pin switches in it
Is this the same recommended method for the u4t?
Yes
Where i can source lube station if i want in bulk?
No idea
What’s a great hotswap 65% budget keyboard that I can put gateron ink blacks in
That’s not the k6
@@aaryagopinath9888 why not that
@@aaryagopinath9888 i don't really know, the nk65? it is not stock, you need to wait for it.
NK65
I luv my Epomaker GK68XS. I put lubed and filmed Gateron Blacks in it origanally and it was amazing. I have lubed Holy Bobas (Sake) in it now and I'm typing this reply with the combo. It feels and sounds amazing and I couldn't be happier!
Should I upgrade to these from browns?
yes
So you like the boba's Betty?
На данный момент - это лучшие переключатели котрыми я пользовался))
wow some fine motor skills needed here just to go back membrane levels now lol
I dig it though
I think the Ziploc bag is too big, unless you are lubing thousands of strings
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why are they so expensive
I wonder if they're better than Zilents V2
From why I've been reading they are. No reason to buy zilents if you can get your hands on these. Splitkb.com (Europe seller) will restock them soon
so quiet ty for the vid :)
You're welcome!
"byeeee"
hey community: any recommendation for (silent) tactiles that do NOT have the bump immediatly at the top? so not exactly how Zealios roll, but more like Aliaz for exapmle (which I really like on my sample pad, but on a whole board this is of course a different story). I just know that I do not at all like the feeling of zealios with the bump directly at the top. I like a bit of pre-travel until the bump comes.
Daybreaks?
tbh, I have gone full 360 with a decent number of tactiles and I find myself returning to mx browns (no joke). zeal v2's have the tactile bump too high for my taste, plus too tactile, I don't have the gazzew boba U4's, but the U4 stems in outemu sky housing the tactile bump is even closer to the top, basically ZERO pre-travel plus the tactile bump is a bit weird, its really drawn out so it doesn't really give you any indication of where the actuation point is. aliaz would be alright if they were consistent, but in the 90 I got, some were scratchy, some had spring ping, etc. There is a new switch that will be going into GB some time soon hopefully, which I will be getting, Oxbloods. They are supposed to be a bit more tactile than browns, with a bit of pretravel and less scratchy. If you can be bothered waiting, check them out.
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The stabilizer is ruining the quietness
LOL "this is betty"
I have to introduce myself
ik but it was funny when it just said "this is betty" in the timestamps
I just got them too, big smooth bump and oh so silent ~~
I use body lotion instead of lube. Works and smells great too
maybe music over the comparison isn't the best idea.
im getting an 84 key keyboard...this will be painfull
I got scammed there was no sound to the sound test, jokes aside good review :)
Lol they're that silent
@@SwitchandClickOfficial yup they are very silent lol you could probably raise the decibels too 1000 and they would still be silent.
4:15 tactile bump