I love how MAPPA produces the most dark and violent series for a season and then they come up with Dance Dance Danseur and Campfire Cooking which makes you double and triple check in disbelief these came from MAPPA
Bro when I saw the campfire cooking isekai I thought it that it looked kinda intresting and then I saw that it was animated by mappa and I was so confused 😂
Its so sad to see a bleach being so "okay" Everyone hate Mappas cgi but when its ugly cgi from Bleach, everyone clapping like its godly cgi I hope Mappa did Bleach
i actually loved chainsaw mans animation and art style. watching Aki wake up and make coffee and doing his normal morning routine was so refreshing and simple. I loved it, i felt i was a part of the world and it was just so refreshing compared to other Anime's. I also felt it added culture to the anime bringing a new perspective
That scene resonated with me so much. I have a pretty set morning routine and I’m always curious about other peoples, but it’s not often portrayed on screen.
YES - in fact all the little quiet moments and small pleasures the characters have between the horror - watching the anime before reading the manga I thought that was a huge point of Chainsaw man - the little things that make us feel bliss and mean something - which is still there a little in the manga but felt way more present of a theme in the anime.
I still think the best fight in Chainsaw Man anime S1 is the brief fight between Aki and Samurai Sword. Something about the walk animation when he pulls the curse sword is just great to me.
I loved chainsaw man and I think a slower pace worked for S1 quite well. I read the manga after and didn’t feel the pace was much different. CGI I noticed but I didn’t really care to much
Chainsaw Man animation does this thing where it combines 2d and 3d animation in a way that stands out from most anime. It's like you can tell the CGI animation is there, but instead of it coming off distracting it actually kinda blends well during the fast paced action scenes. Denji's devil form is 50% CG and it's just a unique aesthetic that I really vibe with.
I thought for a while that AOT S4 pt. 1 was them getting used to it at first as that and dorohedoro (entirely cg anime) were my only experience with mappa at the time
I’m sad. Didn’t know the chainsaw man director of season 1 left. I really liked the cinematic direction chainsawman season 1 had. It made it feel more like a fresh new experience than another shounen out of japan. With some parts seeming more like I was watching a movie. Every now and then it’s nice to take a break from the monotony of everyday japan. But his mistake was trying it in a country that hates change and still uses fax machines from the 1970s. Several of my friends who don’t even watch anime saw chainsawman because of that direction it took with the cinematography making it seem more familiar to western audiences.
Definitely less than 75% - Hell's Paradise could look so much better if MAPPA actually put more resources into it. The thing is, Hell's Paradise is still one of the best shows this season so that really speaks to how good Hell's Paradise's story is and how it has hooked so many people
@@GRmasterpiece the team for hell paradise is being shared with aot's. since aot is higher priority, it takes away what hp could've been (as well as the other high priority projects). but with aot coming to an end there may be an improvement in the overall production and maybe drastic improvement if they delayed the second cour of hp.
@@Sinsmoke_ just because the product is good doesn't really justify the "sweatshop" environment. Because eventually over time big studios abusing employees is gonna lead to decline in the animation industry and shows will look worse and be more rushed as a whole over time
@@SevenZeroEleven so far they are cranking out insane quality and quantity i hope it dosent just plummet because god knows what the hell they are feeding those animators
Chainsaw man season 1 was an incredible experience specifically because it felt like a breath of fresh air. The cinematic approach is so refreshing and different compared to industry standards, and is extremely fitting for the writing of chainsaw man
Fr, most anime are completely lacking in unique/interesting cinematography outside of action scenes. Heck even JJK season 1, in all it's animated glory has incredibly average cinematography. CSM's influence on JJK season 2 is very apparent imo. The non-fight scenes look quite beautiful or interesting now.
It's baffling to me that anybody felt the need to complain about it not meeting their expectations. Or not matching the exact same tone the manga has, as if that was possible in a completely different medium. This is _the_ way to adapt a manga that stands on its own as a masterpiece. There is no other way of doing it properly.
@@habama1077 Pissed that people are trying to change it. I didn't mind the CGI either I think it was well incorporated and a big part of the art-style of the show
Exactly, loved chainsaw man because it took it's time to build up, build up, build and then sudden release in episode 8/9/10... I honestly enjoyed it... :/
Honestly wondering if people read the same manga. The atmospheric dark tone is almost the exact same feeling i got from the manga. Prob just saw the crazy action scenes and didn't take their time with everything else
Given the fact that most studios can’t pull off satisfying CGI action scenes, MAPPA really got into risky territory by accepting to readapt AOT’s most crucial season on a tight schedule. And the fact that despite not being as pleasing as if it were done in 2D the animation still SLAMDUNKS when it needs to is impressive to me.
@@mynameispaul553 I learn to appreciate MAPPA CGI whenever I see CGI from other studio's being bad. Just think about it we could have had even worse CGI but luckily MAPPA was smart enough to invest early in CGI in their early years so it won't take them a God knows how long of a time for them to develop good CGI like what other studio's are currently.
I think that the issue with cgi is that it will almost always look off no matter how good it is, it can be done really well but seeing two different animation style's in a scene will always trigger people, i wasnt a fan of the csm cgi but it had a bigger issue than the animation and that it was slow paced and not long enough for it to become good, not aniamting the bomb devil arc was a huge mistake and thats why it didnt have the same impact as jjk
Jigokuraku being mistreated like this is a crime at highest level. But still the first episode hooked me with the vibrant colors and imagery displayed. I'm still glad Mappa handled it.
Because of the terrible schedule. The team was young but good enough. Because of Mappa's connections, this Show still didn't crashed like nier and still has good Scenes
@@gibbsduhem1066 What enough time? The schedule is still pretty much shit. That one week won't effect this fight (or even much at all). Maybe it will effect a certain fight in the last episodes. They probably had Fresh production desk to help this mess of a production (because you see on the Credits that it's different after episode 7 i think). And the Credits is filled with wayyy too many people. Specially for this episode. Showed that Mappa used a shit ton of 2KA, Animation directors and also a lot of outsourcing (as i said they have a lot of connections) for this episode (i assume because of the action and the design). The action was Solid overall which is surprising
So far, every fear I had about the first part of the anime has come true Mappa is animating everything. Makes a lot of sense that they’d hold back a lot since jigokuraku just doesn’t have the same impact as csm and jjk But another reason as to why they’re not going crazy yet is that the first 30something chapters are just a setup. It’s not surprising that the best animation in this series starts exactly the moment the Tensen appear. That’s when the story truly gets good But the problem is that (as I’ve commented on another video) your average shounen fan has the attention span of a dead squirrel which means that there’s a large number of people who just lost interest because of that slow setup It’s crazy just how many people are trashing the story (Which is surprising to me since usually weebs would cry more about the animation) Either way, everything will be fixed in the second season since the story takes a different turn and introduces a lot more action (and of course that’s when the core thematics of the story appear)
@@user-og6pb6dd5p sorry curse my typography, I meant they had enough time, episode 9 looked pretty solid interms of action, the week they skipped without releasing an episode was a product of that. However it is true that the episodes that will follow will most likely have inconsistencies since the one week they skipped, I doubt if it'll any productive effects in other episodes that will follow
Honestly the first use of it is probably the worst in the series and you can chalk that up to the amount of fluids on screen never hitting the characters, every other instance feels not only justified (I'd doubt most studios have the time or manpower to draw a thousand hands for every frame of the ghost devil) but also adds to the experience
@@airplanes_aren.t_real no problem but just to let you know, the anime ends somewhere near the end of vol 4 I’m pretty sure if you still interested and it’s genuinely one of the best series you will read/watch
Mappa gets way too much hate for consistently producing some of the best preforming anime EVERY SEASON, sure hells paradise could have had better fights but it still looked amazing and had better fight scenes then most shonen.
Are people shitting on Hell's Paradise animation? I thought it was pretty good. It's nowhere near as good as JJK's fight scenes but that's a stupidly high bar.
it's not that the video aged like wine, it's just that the guy simply omitted this "detail". it's been known for years that mappa was one of the worst anime producing company the industry had ever known (says a lot considering the work condition of the regular animator). You can check mother's basement video on why chainsaw man is peak, at one point geoff makes a very snide comment regarding mappa's work conditions, the video is over 2 years old... Mappa being shitty isn't news it just became mainstream.
@@Tronnort bunch of animators had a live breakdown on twitter and some of them were so pissed off they straight up told everyone publicly to throw their mappa access card in the trash before leaving.
It’s a shame that the original director won’t return for season 2 of Chainsaw Man because, in theory, I like what he’s going for. But hopefully he’ll still have some involvement with the production while we have a new voice for season 2.
It would have been interesting to see him work on something like Fire Punch. He doesn’t even need to come back to CSM but definitely on something else.
@@samyalready Yeah, Fire Punch would work out better for the cinematic realism he was going for. Although I hope he’d at least get an episode director or Chief Director role for Season 2. But I hope whoever replaces him has as much of a unique vision for the story as he did.
Also funniest shit is Bocchi director now working on actually good show lmao But naaaahhhh lets shit on csm because it looks too good and absolutely not like all other anime for children
Imo it's the best looking mappa show. They have really put a lot of effort on it. You can clearly see the difference by comparing it with Hell's Paradise which which is airing at the same time as Vinland Saga is.
@@thorfinnthegoatmc, only the core freelancers are same. Vinland Saga S2 is 100% Mappa production. The director of both S1 and S2 is from Mappa, Production desks, assistants & managers are all from Mappa. Majority of episode directors are from mappa, inbetweens are done by Mappa's sub studios. Also, Vinland S2 Ep 15 was made by Aot S4 staff. S1 was made by freelancers, WIT in-house were barely involved. S2 is more dependent on Mappa in-house employees than freelancers.
i also think the darker color gradients fit the 4th season of aot because its really where it starts to get dark and gritty especially with THE RUMBLING
The story was always dark and gritty, and only got more so over time. Wit had been changing their style for each season as well, to adapt to the story. I truly wonder how big their compositing style would've changed, had they animated S4. Would've loved to see Wit S4, with a huge shift in tone. You can easily change tone without creating a whole new art style, and Mappa's colors, shading, and contrast weren't very good. It was super washed out, and a blurry brown-grey mess of colors, that mis-shaped the character models half the time.
IMO, it has some of the most underappreciated "non-action" animation in the whole industry. The animation during conversations, eating, commuting etc. is so stupidly good.
@@protosopic6398 Well too be honest it does. The fight animation is still out done by wits attack on titan season 3 which came out in 2018, cgi is not good and gets out done by trigun stampede or anything done by studio orange. mob psycho since season 1 has far smoother animation and on top of all this jjk still looks better.
ngl MAPPA using cgi for the final arc of aot had a good reason imo.... cuz the rumbling literally has hundreds of moving colossal titans moving at once. No animator is crazy enough to animate that without cgi... that and several other moving elements like the titans, the worm thing, the scouts. Also ngl the cgi in the fight scenes give good fluid motions to the titans so- no complains w/ me
I admire just how well mappa gets along with cgi. Its often hard to differentiate some cgi from the others, like the ending scene of The Dawn of Humanity.
At least do what ufotable do. That is the true 3D blend in. Chainsaw man not even blend in with surrounding. Everything else fluid but the cgi looks like hard sketch.
I absolutely LOVED the Chainsaw Man anime. I wasn't amazed by the first episode but 2 or 3 episodes in and I was hooked. I already read the manga but I enjoyed the new realistic tone. When Aki does the "kon" move to call the fox devil, it looked cool in the manga but it felt so heavy and powerful in the anime.
As much as I love the manga, I'm glad he didn't go with its more comedic tone. Imho all of Part 1's best bits are the serious parts and Nakayama's direction is great for emphasizing that.
Just don't like how the characters look like shit, especially Mikasa lmao it was so jarring, all their mouths are fucked, Levi too, and the fight animation was really bland
I also enjoyed that the Titans were also CGI in retrospect. It really did a good job in noting that Titans are not special supernatural creatures, but a version of human weapons, and expendable like bullets.
The S4 artstyle is fine, for the key animation. But the color and contrast is washed out, and not pleasing to the eye at all. There's a million different ways it could be fixed, without losing tone. Characters look off-model more times than should be allowed, and that is mostly due to the shading, contrast, and poor color choice, and how they shape the look of the characters in-scene. It's fine to like how it got darker in S4, it should get darker, and of course any other studio would've adapted similarly. Wit had been adapting their style and colors throughout S1-3 as well, and they too would've adapted to the dramatic change in tone for the 4th season, had they been the ones to adapt it. I hate the argument that Mappa did "good" because the artstyle they went for is closer to the manga, and that the colors, tone, and atmosphere serves it well, when that is only a half truth. It could've looked miles better, and i'd advice anyone to educate themselves a bit on compositing.
@@anonchalantboy I mean, the whole first season is also really dark, but still has that vibrant style which I personally prefer. No hate towards mappa at all but comparing the mangas tone with the worse use of color and style doesnt justify it.
0:35, someone who can actually just say a quick thank you and move on, even if you plug elsewhere in the vid, that little thank you leaves a good impression. I like.
I really hope ryu nakayama doesn’t get replaced as the director. It’s very unique and interesting in presentation. I really want to see his directing style and tone for the last two arcs of part 1.
I also found it to be a unique experience overall but I do think the show would have had a better time trying to embrace being more typical in things like character interactions, a lot of potential is just sort of washed out due to trying to be realistic
Not gonna lie, chainsaw man taking a realistic cinematic effect makes it perfect, i mean thats when i think the manga was at its best, when the characters slowed down, and started to take in everything rather then.. revving themself up and going crazy, but i can’t really get to mentioning that without any spoilers
@@RomanticPopPunk how did they ruin a fairly generic fight? That wasn’t even one the crazier ones considering how fighting the big devils is a far better option then the humanoid ones
@@Watermelon_Man it's so stupid, I don't get why people who have already read the manga want a perfect transpose of it, if you do something different that is original and objectively well done why not? (I'm talking about the narrative, not the animation)
Csm has become one of my favourite anime, and a big reason for that is the direction take, the characters' fleshed out acting, the realistic flavor and the cinematic creative af shots. I really hope the director stays...
@@alec4269headcannon These people saw the manga covers with flashy neok colours and assumed the entire show should have looked like that Basically all they wanted was a basic shonen anime for an extraordinary manga and since they got an extraordinary adaptation for an equally extraordinary manga, they're mad
Mappa is so goated. I get so mad when people complain about MAPPA having mid animation. WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT?! People don’t understand that animators in Japan work extremely hard to give us what we see today.
Mappa isn't goated, the people working there are. Mappa has stupid scheduling that requires their animators to overwork against their own will. The animators are extremely hard working and the people running Mappa take advantage of that. As a company they are horrible and it sucks seeing people praise them for that, unknowingly or not.
chainsaw mans season 1 was honestly one of my favorite first seasons of anime ever. the animation, music, story telling (all be it the first 3rd of part 1) was so perfect for me and changed my outlook on anime. if the director doesnt come back i hope the second season keeps the same style of animation and cinematic feel
Especially with whats coming up. That direction could make a certain devil scene become one of the most iconic scenes in anime. I have no doubt in my mind it would break the internet
@@smartguy6895dogsht in your words are the entirety of Tokyo revengers, 7DS and promised never land. Don’t be such a brain rotted fool that you think AOT is ruined just cuz of well polished cgi that you think is comparable to berserk 2016 😂
12:25 and also because of fujimoto's love for Films. And also CSM does have serious moments. People seems to always forget about these. If it always would be wacky and chaos, then these moments won't be surprising anymore. And also CGI for chainsaw man for the close up shots and slower movements needs to be used because of chainsaws
I''ll never understand the complaint of realism in Chainsaw Man, I love the realistic approach! As a long time dragon ball fan its nice to see fights that have realistic weight to them and not totally vibrant colors coating your eyes, while I see a lot of tatsuki fujimotos panels being way better than the anime I think that should just be expected as he isn't gonna be drawing every frame in the show. Also correct me if im wrong but I feel like chainsaw man has had a MASSIVE impact in the U.S. I've never seen an anime be this wide spread in awhile as chainsaw man has been and I say that as someone out of the "anime-sphere". Anyway brilliant video!
@@yname thats very true while I love the earlier arcs of CSM it does not compare to the chaos that unfolds right after where the anime left at, it almost makes me think mappa did it intentionally as to stretch out the hype for the series but it was most likely them making 12 eps their goal all the way back in the starting production as adapting CSM is a pretty ambitious process and they didn't wanna screw it up
I'm afraid with information you presented, that Mappa within the next couple years will probably implode if they keep with their approach of taking on huge projects with little regard for if the studio has the time or resources to back it up.
I absolutely loved CSM and I was so shocked when I saw complaints online. The unique camera angles and character expressiveness were great. In terms of character interactions its one of my favs in MAPPA
I felt the same, to be honest the tone the anime has is how I always thought the tone was for the series and the wackier scenes were just a touch of black comedy to alleviate the darkness and tragedy of certain scenes.
but the season 1 i dont know who the director was but it was unique in all of shonen to me like the osts used for the battles, how the battles were made better than the manga using animation and just specific scenes matching with the playing music perfectly i have never seen western metal play over a hype anime fight scene before and it worked so uniquely well. I just hope hes got the same creativity
@@animetic9937 believe me when i say he is the most creative director in anime industry right now and this is not the first time he is working on JJK. He directed and storyboarded ep 17 of JJK. Also he directed chainsaw man ep 8 which is the best episode of CSM.
@@animetic9937 Did you watch the trailer. The quality is there especially with the fights because the new director is amazing ...some people always find a reason to complain
@@pantelismat4352 When I first watched the trailer I was confused on why there was barely any details on the characters faces compared to the first season. Gojos eyes looked so bland compared to the first season. It just looks like they removed a bunch of details for no reason and made everything just solid colors.
Man I hope Ryu stays on for CSM. I loved the cinematic feel to it plus it they really captured the gritty aspect of the csm world itself. When I watched the first trailer that was exactly what I imagined the show to be like while reading the manga and someone who enjoys cinema, this show was a breath of fresh air cuz no mainstream shonen anime has ever looked or felt like it. People just want shows to stick to the old formula except giving something new a shot. Reminds me of how Gojo talks about the geezer higher ups in JJK.
9:23 I actually enjoyed the color changed, I’ve always seen it as the jump from season 3-4 completely changed the show and everything about it changed, it got much darker and more terrifying the change in colors made it feel that way
1. I think you also need to realize the important of the entire anime staff not just the director (like the animation producer, director of photography, and most importantly freelance animator who participate in the project). The more staff both project shared, the more it will affect each other just like chainsawman and jujutsu kaisen 2. Jigo does not look bad because they put their resources to jjk season 2, both of these show have a completely different staff working on it from the producer down to the very department it was produced in. What most likely affected its production is both vinland saga and attack on titan since they share the same department and staff member. Mappa simply doesnt care much about jigo production, the schedule is so bad even with the help of veteran in the industry working as an episode director, the final product is still underwhelming at the very best 3. Chainsaw man future project CANT and WILL not appear until at least 2024/2025 since both csm and jjk have pretty much the same staff and key animator. Why they both share the same staff ? Because both of these show have the same animation producer and similiar connection between staff. Main animator and staff for chainsaw man season 1 like kouki fujimoto, ryu nakayama, tatsuya yoshihara, shota goshozono, etc simply cant work on chainsaw man anymore because all of them are busy with their own project
Jigo also from what I heard has a relatively young and inexperienced team working on it, though imo it doesn't look that bad, MAPPA has spoiled people into thinking Jigo looks bad tbh, they haven't dealt with truly bad animation. I just hope if it does get a S2 it deserves better treatment or a different studio. Also yeah there is a zero percent chance that CSM S2 comes before the middle of 2024.
@@AlexRight its hard to call the entire staff inexperience when they have the name of tetsuya wakano and jun shishido working as an episode director and storyboarder, they simply cant unleash their full potential because of the terrible schedule mappa gave them. Also yes jigo does not look "bad" , but it is still very underwhelming especially if you compare it with other action shonen jump titles
Two things. One, it's unfortunate that the cost of having such great anime like JJK, CSM, and AOT is having people work in sweatshop-like conditions. However, I know that there are millions who love their work, considering just how much detail and effort went into MAPPA's prime projects. Was it a good idea to only put resources into those and leave some smaller anime aside? I wouldn't know. Two, you are probably the fastest-growing new TH-cam channel I've ever seen! Awesome job, my guy, from one content-creator to another.
It not everyday you find an upcoming youtuber that simply understands how to make videos of such quality and actually know how to be funny 😄 Keep up the good work!!!!👍
I loved the art style of CSM season 1. I almost stopped watching the season because the sexual stuff was getting too uncomfortable because Denji was a minor and the cinematic style was so realistic. When that stopped being the focus, the anime became a masterpiece. I've been reading the manga ever since. It's crazier and funnier but I just cannot forget the scene in the anime of Makima putting on her white dress shirt and how beautiful it was animated. That type of scene never would have been in the manga. Even the clip in the video at 12:25 of Power walking down a hallway was gorgeous.
anime fans often don't realize just how much of what they watch is CGI. I really hope people realize that CGI in anime has gotten quite good. What people don't like isn't CGI, they don't like _bad_ CGI
Legit, like CGI has gotten so good in recent years. Like I remember when not season 2 came out, animators have come so far with incorporating cgi into anime. That it can sometimes even be hard to notice if you aren't looking for it.
To be fair, I think Mappa is actually doing a pretty neat job at Hell's Paradise. You compared the fight between JJK and Hell's Paradise but I think you missed that Mappa had to animate the clash between two of the strongest characters in JJK unlike Hell's Paradise where until the recent episode, There was no character stronger than the MC. Idk if I am correct, it's just my opinion
Actually many don't know the fact theres something called as a money making project and a passion project in animation studios, JJK and CSM are currently mappas passion project where they go all our and don't cheapen interms of animation
Actually, I like how MAPPA handled AOT final season in terms of CGI usage and less saturated color scheme. While I still dont necessarily admire CGI, MAPPA managed to make it feel pretty natural, highlighting most stressful scenes with it. Colors wise, I think using less brighted ones fits this season really good, considering things turn out being not that funny anymore.
If we don't consider the titans, MAPPA's CGI is pretty impressive objectively. The CGI buildings, background elements, ships, and the weapons looked super realistic. Not to mention, their camera movements are top notch. I wonder if Wit would've ever managed to achieve MAPPA's level of CGI excellence and realism. In terms of art, MAPPA's a mile above, some scenes were so distorted they looked even more impacting. Both studios have used differing art styles for their respective take on Attack on Titan's adaptation. However, none is objectively better, especially since MAPPA's muted colors are perfect to depict the all-out war everyone finds themselves in during Season 4. As a result, MAPPA's darker art style is perfect to show the horrors of war. Wit Studio's brighter colors could've possibly looked out of place during this arc, so this change was ultimately for the better. In terms of lighting, MAPPA kinda messed up part 1, but part 2 and 3 looked amazing in my eyes.
The whole Chainsaw Man situation is Twitter brain-rot at its finest. The director did an incredible job. The anime differentiated itself from the manga, and gave us a new view of the Chainsaw Man world.
the reason chainsaw man didnt have the impact some people expected at least for me was because there were only 12 episodes in the season. im sure theres plenty of reasons why that is. My only complaint with hell paradise as well is because it will also only have 12 or 13 episodes which makes sense thinking about jujutsu kaisen season 2 starting basically the week after hells paradise ends. Jujutsu kaisen season 1 was able to provide so much with their 24 episodes.
I will never understand the complaints about Denji's Chainsaw-form being CGI. He has three CONSTANTLY MOVING CHAINSAWS on his head and arms. The amount of work that would need to be put only for those three things is absurd. Katana man,sure, I can understand it, but at that point i think they just decided that all hybrids would be cgi not to make Denji stand out like a sore thumb.
Never read the manga of CSM but the anime was great! Hope whoever took over for season 2 keeps that same level of frantic energy in its animation. JJK and CSM have the best introsong animation I've seen in a long time, I adore the semi-rotoscoped-but-with-style thing they do!
First off, really great vid And as for CSM, I doubt it would have had as big of an effect because it's just not as accessible for most audiences anyway with how weird some aspects of it can be ( prime example would be most of EP 7 lol ) Anyway, I've read the manga and I absolutely loved the anime, though I really disagree with the anime being different from the manga, especially in terms of pacing. In fact, a lot of the hate the show got just sounded more like the show wasn't the same as people's headcanons of what it should be lol.
I agree honestly. Another complaint I heard for why people didn't like CSM was because all the characters were selfish and self-centered and there was no comradery at all; So again, I can see how this wouldn't be accessible to most audiences, especially since CSM is more dark and gritty than most shonen people like to watch. Most shonen have moments of wholesomeness, selflessness, found family and the undying hope the good always wins in the end, which doesn't really happen in CSM. That doesn't mean there's no angst or darkness in regular shonen, but it always comes back around to these emotions/tropes, this is why most people come back to this genre. Compared to CSM, Jujutsu Kaisen is like taking a nice stroll in the park, and that shit gets dark. I mean, JJK literally started with Yuuji's grandfather telling him to help as many people as he can so he won't die alone, and CSM started with Denji "transferring ownership" from the Yakuza to Makima through rebirth. Granted, the Pochita scene was pretty wholesome, but I can totally understand why some people would like one more than the other based on themes alone. I think it was only a surprise to MAPPA because they spent so much time, effort and money into making 12 EDs and it still didn't top JJK, which granted, is kind of surprising when put that way. I also think the CGI thing is dumb, and will always be dumb. Chainsaw Man looked great, Attack on Titan looked great. I know we all love a well-animated fight scene, but honestly I would rather they use CGI to reach the deadline instead of overworking their most talented animators and burning them out, that would be tragic.
I think my biggest issue was people always sing that the coloration of Chainsaw men was on with how muted the colors were and how it wasn't as bright and colorful as the manga and then I realized it's because most people read the fan colorization and they're taking that to be the real tone of Chainsaw man when if you read it in black and white it also feels different from color.
i want csm to be remade by a competent director who understands the author's vision ryu nakayama could've just made a live action adaptation instead making anime having character acting every episode for "realism" which csm doesn't even lean into at all
@@heisenberg3206 mr cool. For your knowledge fugimoto the writter himself thanked ryu nakayana and said anime was perfect up to down. So this concludes that you misjudged whole manga and writter thanking director and saying anime is perfect make a your opinion rejected 😌
@@cheese-id8op these people think that they know better than the author himself. In reality they don't know shit about anything and just push the agenda MAPPA is bad 😞
@@gamerboyrax2222 of course the author wouldn't just say out loud "this man ruined my story on the television i'm gonna sue his ass now" so the author chose the safe way. I'm sure there might've been tense situation behind the scenes
Tatsuki Fujimoto himself said that he wanted the anime (before it released) to have a different direction compared to the Manga. He said that his style and influences would only work in the Manga and that it would not translate well to the anime. People complaining about the anime's direction are incredibly stupid
I think the CGI is a great addition to anime in general, especially in certain situations. It gives an otherworldly vibe to certain creatures or monsters of the anime they do
Demon slayer does cgi really well. There are some questionable scenes, but that's a very few out of many. The CGI in season 2 and 3 has been fantastic. On the other hand I just think the CGI from MAPPA in AoT is bad overall. There's a very visible anti alias effect happening with MAPPA CGI. Wit studios handled CGI really good too. They mixed in a lot of hand drawn, and 2d effects with the CGI. Also the bolder lines and more vivid colors helps a lot with masking CGI
@@lmb1563 I guess we just don't agree. AoT CGI is so bad for me. But with demon slayer I feel like it really fits into the style of the show. After season 1, the CGI is much better
I have to say the thing with MAPPA is not just their insane team never getting to see their family but is also the shows they pick, the shows they pick are all very dark straying from norms of anime and manga and then they add their own new touch of flare to it sparking it into a worldwide sensation. Almost all of the shows they animate have become sensational, to name a few are Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man, Attack On Titan, And To a lesser degree Dororo, Jigokuraku (Both peak btw) and Kakegurui. Really showing how prominent of a studio they have become in the past few years, overall MAPPA animating something causes it to go from unknown to a sensation, And this video encapsulates this perfectly. (In addition, whilst Hell's Paradise is not as well animated as their other works it's still extremely well animated and it's animation is only getting better with each episode, episode 8 was a great example of this fact, but another thing holding MAPPA back is their amount of employees, if they had more they could have everything they turn out look as clean as CSM or JJK)
Chainsaw man jujutsu Kaisen and AOT we’re not “unknown” before mappa. Mappa definitely helped but jujutsu Kaisen was already pretty successful and chainsaw man was giving one piece a run for its money before it even had an anime announcement.
@@blakedavis2447 that is true but mappa animating them brings them even further into the spotlight, and gege even adresses this at the end of book 14, ofc they were known but mappa animating them made them even more successful.
No offense, but dude a grand total of anime is very dark, with dark themes. That's what anime was known for at least where I was for a while. Like sure you have the comedies, but chainsaw man was not the darkest I've seen, it actually seemed a par for the course of how dark anime and manga can be. It's actually the "norm" as far as dark anime
@@Starburst514 alright where did I specify not other shows are dark? does that take away from the fact that the shows mappa pick up are dark? no I just said what mappa picks up is dark, not that its the darkest or there are other dark manga etc like jesus.
Found your channel on discovery and I’m loving your break downs and banter. Giving me scamboli feels with the break downs and humour being informative and funny. Excited for the next video 👍🏿
Something that might be worth mentioning as well in terms of controversies present with MAPPA in regards to JJK S2 is that Getou's VA (Takahiro Sakurai) confessed to having a decade-long extra-marital affair with a broadcast writer, while both keeping his marriage and his affair hidden from each of the women. Especially shocking considering how relevant Getou will be in S2, even if it's not an issue exlcusive to MAPPA in this case.
MAPPA studios deserve all the credit they are getting and even more. They are running so many projects and still don't fail to give us excellent animation.
the first chainsaw man "controversy" is so dumb because its a adaptation not a replication if you really wanted to anime to be just like the manga i think you have the wrong idea about the process of adapting manga into anime.
Why adapt Chainsaw Man if you’re just going to alienate the main fanbase? You may as well creat something original or adapt a more fitting source material.
I think jjk is now better off as park mainly focused on action but the composition was really bad but the new director shota ghosozono is one of the best in the industry and you can tell just look at any episode directed by him
I can agree to an extent with everything except for CSM. I didn’t find it bad and for a non manga reader, my wife loved the show. For their other projects you can really tell how much MAPPA puts into their work by how well it’s paced. Hells Paradise imo had horrible pacing and thus the fights feel few and far between in comparison to something like JJK. I truly think they’re just overworked and trying to be the poster child for every big seasonal anime release. I think they need to stop taking every release that comes to their doorstep and focus more on the quality of their work rather than how often we see it. The name MAPPA will eventually lose its good household name and transition to a regretful one.
In my opinion Mappa did better job on the Final Season of Aot than other studios ever could Including Wit, the feeling of emotions and epicness in the cgi and hand-drawn animation of Mappa is something else in aot
I believe WIT did a better job in nearly every single instance of combat. They covered details in a way that Mappa simply never could. I know Mappa had little time to do Wit’s meticulous work, but still WIT is just better.
@@anshulsirohi007 I’m not sure you’ve seen the rest of AOT if you’re genuinely saying that. Mappa was able to make the show look like the manga, but that’s not always a good thing. WIT wasn’t trying to do so, which let them bridge out and create far more vibrant scenes with extravagant colors and lighting. Not to mention how much better the fighting scenes were. Have you seen any seen with Levi in it? Levi escaping from Kenny, Levi vs The Beast Titan, Levi vs The Female Titan, literally any Titan fight? WIT is just far better at creating Attack On Titan content. They’re the reason why we’re so interested in the anime in the first place. Stop downplaying WIT just to make yourself feel better about Mappa.
@@bigdojacoom8999 Dude wit was mainly good for combat animation especially b'coz of arifumi imai's work (hes a freelancer who animated all the fights you mentioned), but its not like wit was well suited studio for season 4 that whole colour pallet was not well suited for that season just like how mha s6 first half didn't suit the kind of theme the story was following. And not even going to dive into pacing/adaptation issues they had. The main difference actually is created by the fact that aot was a passion project in wit but in mappa its a money making project, now don't blaming studios for this kind of discrimination since its a way how all japanese animation studio operate(except kyoto animation)
This is gonna sound insane, but despite the fact that I liked their adaptations of CSM, JJK and Hell's Paradise, the one series I hope MAPPA eventually gets back to is Idaten Deities. Obviously it wasn't a spectacle of animation or anything, but the color palate and direction was just so interesting (also it was crazy fun and had a fire OP). Anyways, great video.
@@shinramune9002 Oh, that I did not know. What kind of releases are we talking here? Made in Abyss levels (a few chapters a year), or just full on hiatus?
@@shinramune9002 Oh, damn... As long as the remake is still ongoing, I suppose. Still, I stand by what I said. I'd even be fine with them going anime original, 'cause that cliffhanger was brutal. Guess only time will tell though. Hey, thanks for the info though.
About the attack on Titan part, I think the way they color grated it was on purpose, to make it feel more like how the show feels, the last season changed the way we looked at things and I think the way they color grated it compliments it wel
Yeah and it's not like teams at MAPPA is incapable of making shows with vibrant and sharp colors, they just save that style for series that are not as dark as something like AoT or CSM.
even if it was wit staff animating it, the color still wouldn't look like how mappa staff's photography team decided to go with. the color change was due to lack of talent in the staff not being half as good as the wit staff
@@Hetsu.. Thank God I'm not alone on this. I absolutely despise the color grading and incomplete thin lines for the drawing as a whole. Final Season was a hard downgrade for a series that already has a controversial ending (which I also despise but I don't wanna spread hate).
Fun note about chainsaw man episode 1. They released their animation process to show what a lot of people thought was CGI in the zombie fight…was not actually CGI. Like for example Denjis running and waving his arms right after the start of the fight. Looks CGI, but is not.
Hell's paradise intro is gas I was shocked when I seen that. Thanks for making the video, I knew nothing about mappa until hells paradise. Imo, I like the studio, i got no problem with them aside from the sweatshop work conditions, I hope they change that.
7:17 gosso is much better director than park. Park is Really good at action but not much at direction. Season 2 does look better than season from The trailer in almost every aspect. The Animation, compositing, Choose of colors, art direction (backgrounds), complex storyboards and even Character acting (animation)
I have faith by season 2 of Jigokuraku MAPPA will change things around to focus more on it considering it'll after AOT ends and other shows go on break.
As a Japanese speaker, I can point out some additional issues with the Chainsaw Man anime adaptation that were not mentioned previously. 1. Alteration of Important Lines Paralleling Manga: For instance, in the first episode, Denji says, 「邪魔すんなら死ね！」 (If you get in the way, die!), which is modified from its manga counterpart, 「俺達の邪魔ァすんなら死ね！」(If you get in OUR way, die!). The removal of 「俺達の」 (Our) also eliminates the beautiful parallel with Makima's line that appears later in the manga, 「私達の邪魔するなら死んで」 (If you get in our way, die). These two instances of 'our' carry different meanings and illustrate the conflict between Denji and Makima. Removing at least one of them is quite disappointing for manga fans, especially in the Japanese version. 2. Inaudible Voice Lines: I don't have legal access to the English dub, but I and many Japanese viewers had difficulty understanding what Kishibe and Samurai Sword were saying. The problem is not that they speak too quietly, which might be in line with their characters, but rather the background music and sound effects playing simultaneously make their voice lines completely incomprehensible. It's not that the anime adaptation is a total mess, but for me, it feels like they missed out on the full potential that the manga offered. Perhaps the manga set such a high bar that no studio could truly meet it.
I really loved the direction CSM took in the Anime, as after the Manga the Anime felt like something unique, something to be able to stand on its own feet. It was a fun ride as it was something new. Would it have been more like the Manga, I wouldn´t have this much fun with it. Seeing the same thing twice just isn´t as great, so I´m glad that didn´t happen
This was a good video man. I hope to see you blow up, you’re talented and with enough hard work I could see you hitting 100k and eventually a million even.
8:47 because The compositing was pretty bad and it got better in every part. Also the compositing for AOT was Completely outsourced to asahi production. Not wit themselves (sorry for putting so much comment, but there is a lot of misunderstanding)
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I love how MAPPA produces the most dark and violent series for a season and then they come up with Dance Dance Danseur and Campfire Cooking which makes you double and triple check in disbelief these came from MAPPA
Bro when I saw the campfire cooking isekai I thought it that it looked kinda intresting and then I saw that it was animated by mappa and I was so confused 😂
Campfire cooking was such a fun show
Goes to show mappa is more than just a shonen studio
Also banana fish
Don’t forget Yuri on Ice 😂
Can we talk about how every single opening on a mappa show. FUCKING SLAPS
Its so sad to see a bleach being so "okay"
Everyone hate Mappas cgi but when its ugly cgi from Bleach, everyone clapping like its godly cgi
I hope Mappa did Bleach
YES YES and YES
Could say the same for Pierrot albeit its debatable animation quality
@@kenmaru777are people hating on mappa cgi, its good idk what people are on
@@kenmaru777 but bleach cgi doesnt look ugly. And the bleach adaptation as of now has been really good and mappa will never have bleach
Controversies aside, cheers to Eve for dropping such a BANGER of an opening for JJK
Tatsuya Kitani absolutely killed it for the s2 opening as well
@@ivanthaboi fax
Eve should make some anime about their music videos like dayum their characters and story told in the song look so good
Bruh, you seen the Hells Paradise Op? Straight fire
@@Novashadow115 its calm
i actually loved chainsaw mans animation and art style. watching Aki wake up and make coffee and doing his normal morning routine was so refreshing and simple. I loved it, i felt i was a part of the world and it was just so refreshing compared to other Anime's. I also felt it added culture to the anime bringing a new perspective
That scene resonated with me so much. I have a pretty set morning routine and I’m always curious about other peoples, but it’s not often portrayed on screen.
YES - in fact all the little quiet moments and small pleasures the characters have between the horror - watching the anime before reading the manga I thought that was a huge point of Chainsaw man - the little things that make us feel bliss and mean something - which is still there a little in the manga but felt way more present of a theme in the anime.
I still think the best fight in Chainsaw Man anime S1 is the brief fight between Aki and Samurai Sword. Something about the walk animation when he pulls the curse sword is just great to me.
I loved chainsaw man and I think a slower pace worked for S1 quite well. I read the manga after and didn’t feel the pace was much different. CGI I noticed but I didn’t really care to much
I thought they were just flexing their animation lol
Chainsaw Man animation does this thing where it combines 2d and 3d animation in a way that stands out from most anime. It's like you can tell the CGI animation is there, but instead of it coming off distracting it actually kinda blends well during the fast paced action scenes. Denji's devil form is 50% CG and it's just a unique aesthetic that I really vibe with.
Yeah CGI does really well to make Denji even more uncanny and disgusting (which is a good thing)
I thought for a while that AOT S4 pt. 1 was them getting used to it at first as that and dorohedoro (entirely cg anime) were my only experience with mappa at the time
I enjoyed it as well, as did my partner who is new to anime.
I’m sad. Didn’t know the chainsaw man director of season 1 left. I really liked the cinematic direction chainsawman season 1 had. It made it feel more like a fresh new experience than another shounen out of japan. With some parts seeming more like I was watching a movie. Every now and then it’s nice to take a break from the monotony of everyday japan. But his mistake was trying it in a country that hates change and still uses fax machines from the 1970s. Several of my friends who don’t even watch anime saw chainsawman because of that direction it took with the cinematography making it seem more familiar to western audiences.
Western audiences? Wtf u talkin man
Did you even know who Tatsuki Fujimoto is?
@@kenmaru777 the author but what's your point ?
@@kenmaru777 He is someone who loves Western movies.... oh and also the author of CSM.
@@kenmaru777 The opening was literally full of western film references...
@@kenmaru777 hey, enlighten me on how you actually know who he is better than the original commenter and how that makes a difference, please!
Hell’s Paradise is MAPPA at 75%, but damn that’s still better than 95% of animation I’ve seen.
Definitely less than 75% - Hell's Paradise could look so much better if MAPPA actually put more resources into it. The thing is, Hell's Paradise is still one of the best shows this season so that really speaks to how good Hell's Paradise's story is and how it has hooked so many people
@@GRmasterpiece the team for hell paradise is being shared with aot's. since aot is higher priority, it takes away what hp could've been (as well as the other high priority projects). but with aot coming to an end there may be an improvement in the overall production and maybe drastic improvement if they delayed the second cour of hp.
i genuinely don't mind this level of animation in hell's paradise, it's still insanely interesting and exciting. It's kinda feels like Dororo
you haven’t seen a whole lot of animation then lmfao
hells paradise is mappa on 40%
The MAPPA animators after finding out they have to work on a thousand shows and cram it all in less than a year: 😐
Stop this shit already. It's not even accurate
And the animation is still good
@@Sinsmoke_ just because the product is good doesn't really justify the "sweatshop" environment. Because eventually over time big studios abusing employees is gonna lead to decline in the animation industry and shows will look worse and be more rushed as a whole over time
@@SevenZeroEleven bruh😓
@@SevenZeroEleven so far they are cranking out insane quality and quantity
i hope it dosent just plummet because god knows what the hell they are feeding those animators
Chainsaw man season 1 was an incredible experience specifically because it felt like a breath of fresh air. The cinematic approach is so refreshing and different compared to industry standards, and is extremely fitting for the writing of chainsaw man
Fr, most anime are completely lacking in unique/interesting cinematography outside of action scenes. Heck even JJK season 1, in all it's animated glory has incredibly average cinematography.
CSM's influence on JJK season 2 is very apparent imo. The non-fight scenes look quite beautiful or interesting now.
It's baffling to me that anybody felt the need to complain about it not meeting their expectations. Or not matching the exact same tone the manga has, as if that was possible in a completely different medium.
This is _the_ way to adapt a manga that stands on its own as a masterpiece. There is no other way of doing it properly.
@@habama1077 Pissed that people are trying to change it. I didn't mind the CGI either I think it was well incorporated and a big part of the art-style of the show
Exactly, loved chainsaw man because it took it's time to build up, build up, build and then sudden release in episode 8/9/10...
I honestly enjoyed it... :/
Honestly wondering if people read the same manga. The atmospheric dark tone is almost the exact same feeling i got from the manga. Prob just saw the crazy action scenes and didn't take their time with everything else
Given the fact that most studios can’t pull off satisfying CGI action scenes, MAPPA really got into risky territory by accepting to readapt AOT’s most crucial season on a tight schedule. And the fact that despite not being as pleasing as if it were done in 2D the animation still SLAMDUNKS when it needs to is impressive to me.
The thing with MAPPA cgi is that they are constantly improving on it and I personally think it currently looks really good
agreed! I find most cgi from studios really cringe but I think Mappa does a great job, esp in AOT!
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I learn to appreciate MAPPA CGI whenever I see CGI from other studio's being bad. Just think about it we could have had even worse CGI but luckily MAPPA was smart enough to invest early in CGI in their early years so it won't take them a God knows how long of a time for them to develop good CGI like what other studio's are currently.
I honestly don't get why people hate on MAPPA's CGI. Of course it ain't no Studio Orange but they have some of the best CGI in anime.
Also Dorohedoro is severely underrated, and is all CGI
I think that the issue with cgi is that it will almost always look off no matter how good it is, it can be done really well but seeing two different animation style's in a scene will always trigger people, i wasnt a fan of the csm cgi but it had a bigger issue than the animation and that it was slow paced and not long enough for it to become good, not aniamting the bomb devil arc was a huge mistake and thats why it didnt have the same impact as jjk
Jigokuraku being mistreated like this is a crime at highest level.
But still the first episode hooked me with the vibrant colors and imagery displayed. I'm still glad Mappa handled it.
Because of the terrible schedule. The team was young but good enough. Because of Mappa's connections, this Show still didn't crashed like nier and still has good Scenes
@@user-og6pb6dd5p like the recent episode, glad they have enough time to animate it and the outcome was near flawless.
@@gibbsduhem1066 What enough time? The schedule is still pretty much shit. That one week won't effect this fight (or even much at all). Maybe it will effect a certain fight in the last episodes. They probably had Fresh production desk to help this mess of a production (because you see on the Credits that it's different after episode 7 i think). And the Credits is filled with wayyy too many people. Specially for this episode. Showed that Mappa used a shit ton of 2KA, Animation directors and also a lot of outsourcing (as i said they have a lot of connections) for this episode (i assume because of the action and the design). The action was Solid overall which is surprising
So far, every fear I had about the first part of the anime has come true
Mappa is animating everything. Makes a lot of sense that they’d hold back a lot since jigokuraku just doesn’t have the same impact as csm and jjk
But another reason as to why they’re not going crazy yet is that the first 30something chapters are just a setup. It’s not surprising that the best animation in this series starts exactly the moment the Tensen appear. That’s when the story truly gets good
But the problem is that (as I’ve commented on another video) your average shounen fan has the attention span of a dead squirrel which means that there’s a large number of people who just lost interest because of that slow setup
It’s crazy just how many people are trashing the story
(Which is surprising to me since usually weebs would cry more about the animation)
Either way, everything will be fixed in the second season since the story takes a different turn and introduces a lot more action (and of course that’s when the core thematics of the story appear)
@@user-og6pb6dd5p sorry curse my typography, I meant they had enough time, episode 9 looked pretty solid interms of action, the week they skipped without releasing an episode was a product of that. However it is true that the episodes that will follow will most likely have inconsistencies since the one week they skipped, I doubt if it'll any productive effects in other episodes that will follow
I usually hate CGI but chainsaw man had some of the best visuals in any anime. The way each scene was shot was extremely high quality
Honestly the first use of it is probably the worst in the series and you can chalk that up to the amount of fluids on screen never hitting the characters, every other instance feels not only justified (I'd doubt most studios have the time or manpower to draw a thousand hands for every frame of the ghost devil) but also adds to the experience
kny and csm with visuals: 💯💯💯
When chainsaw man transform the animation and cgi hits hard
@@slicky3397 thanks for the recommendation
@@airplanes_aren.t_real no problem but just to let you know, the anime ends somewhere near the end of vol 4 I’m pretty sure if you still interested and it’s genuinely one of the best series you will read/watch
Mappa gets way too much hate for consistently producing some of the best preforming anime EVERY SEASON, sure hells paradise could have had better fights but it still looked amazing and had better fight scenes then most shonen.
Are people shitting on Hell's Paradise animation? I thought it was pretty good. It's nowhere near as good as JJK's fight scenes but that's a stupidly high bar.
There's nothing wrong with Hell's Paradise. This is the first time or video I've seen people complain about it, holy shit.
@@paledrake yeah same lol, sounds like invented drama
@@paledrake Nah ive definitely seen people talking about it in comment sections and such
I feel as though people get too confortable with well produced anime
This video aged like wine given the current state of Jujutsu Kaisen’s animators 🥲
sad times
it's not that the video aged like wine, it's just that the guy simply omitted this "detail". it's been known for years that mappa was one of the worst anime producing company the industry had ever known (says a lot considering the work condition of the regular animator). You can check mother's basement video on why chainsaw man is peak, at one point geoff makes a very snide comment regarding mappa's work conditions, the video is over 2 years old... Mappa being shitty isn't news it just became mainstream.
What happened to mappa?😅
@@Tronnort bunch of animators had a live breakdown on twitter and some of them were so pissed off they straight up told everyone publicly to throw their mappa access card in the trash before leaving.
@@pougetguillaume4632 so underpayed and overworked? This is Japan we talkin? What happened there?
It’s a shame that the original director won’t return for season 2 of Chainsaw Man because, in theory, I like what he’s going for. But hopefully he’ll still have some involvement with the production while we have a new voice for season 2.
It would have been interesting to see him work on something like Fire Punch. He doesn’t even need to come back to CSM but definitely on something else.
@@samyalready Yeah, Fire Punch would work out better for the cinematic realism he was going for. Although I hope he’d at least get an episode director or Chief Director role for Season 2. But I hope whoever replaces him has as much of a unique vision for the story as he did.
Wtf he leaves csm?
Big L for Mappa, I fckn hate bocchi fans who mocked him
I hope they will never get season 2 lmao
Also funniest shit is Bocchi director now working on actually good show lmao
But naaaahhhh lets shit on csm because it looks too good and absolutely not like all other anime for children
I really wish Mappa continues to animate Vinland Saga despite not having the same popularity of JJK and CSM 🙏
Imo it's the best looking mappa show. They have really put a lot of effort on it. You can clearly see the difference by comparing it with Hell's Paradise which which is airing at the same time as Vinland Saga is.
@@smirg2975 its the same staff from season 1. Mappa hired them from wit. That team is too passionate for Vinland Saga
@@thorfinnthegoatmc, only the core freelancers are same.
Vinland Saga S2 is 100% Mappa production. The director of both S1 and S2 is from Mappa, Production desks, assistants & managers are all from Mappa. Majority of episode directors are from mappa, inbetweens are done by Mappa's sub studios. Also, Vinland S2 Ep 15 was made by Aot S4 staff.
S1 was made by freelancers, WIT in-house were barely involved. S2 is more dependent on Mappa in-house employees than freelancers.
@@arthurmorgan251 ohhh thanks for sharing this
@@thorfinnthegoatmc ik
The realism in csm was my favorite part. I've never been drawn into animation like that before.
You are definitely of minority.
same here
@@an_orange8911 I’ve never considered myself as such, I’m just Nathan
You cant just give that to mappa, its also because of Kishimotos art style that it looks so beautiful
Same
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i also think the darker color gradients fit the 4th season of aot because its really where it starts to get dark and gritty especially with THE RUMBLING
It was always gritty, since season 1
But the characters looked straight up ugly. And nothing like their original design :/
The story was always dark and gritty, and only got more so over time. Wit had been changing their style for each season as well, to adapt to the story. I truly wonder how big their compositing style would've changed, had they animated S4. Would've loved to see Wit S4, with a huge shift in tone.
You can easily change tone without creating a whole new art style, and Mappa's colors, shading, and contrast weren't very good. It was super washed out, and a blurry brown-grey mess of colors, that mis-shaped the character models half the time.
THEY GAVE LEVI CHUBBY CHEEKIES!!!
@@brosef5033Ironic that you say that when the designs are more accurate to the manga than ever.
I don't care what people says about Chainsaw man but i love it, specially because of the cinematography, it is so eye pleasing and gorgeously done.
SAMEE I had no problem with the show whatever and its the first anime to get me into manga
IMO, it has some of the most underappreciated "non-action" animation in the whole industry. The animation during conversations, eating, commuting etc. is so stupidly good.
It sucks
@@eprivateinternet Nice to add to the conversation
@@protosopic6398 Well too be honest it does. The fight animation is still out done by wits attack on titan season 3 which came out in 2018, cgi is not good and gets out done by trigun stampede or anything done by studio orange. mob psycho since season 1 has far smoother animation and on top of all this jjk still looks better.
ngl MAPPA using cgi for the final arc of aot had a good reason imo.... cuz the rumbling literally has hundreds of moving colossal titans moving at once. No animator is crazy enough to animate that without cgi... that and several other moving elements like the titans, the worm thing, the scouts. Also ngl the cgi in the fight scenes give good fluid motions to the titans so- no complains w/ me
Tbh mappa titan cgi was really great. They're getting better with blending 3d cgi with 2d animation
@@anhkduc7930 yeah it sucked in part 1 only then it became good
MAPPA's CGI was only okayish or bad in part 1. Part 2 and special ep 1 have had great CGI.
I admire just how well mappa gets along with cgi. Its often hard to differentiate some cgi from the others, like the ending scene of The Dawn of Humanity.
At least do what ufotable do. That is the true 3D blend in. Chainsaw man not even blend in with surrounding. Everything else fluid but the cgi looks like hard sketch.
I absolutely LOVED the Chainsaw Man anime. I wasn't amazed by the first episode but 2 or 3 episodes in and I was hooked. I already read the manga but I enjoyed the new realistic tone. When Aki does the "kon" move to call the fox devil, it looked cool in the manga but it felt so heavy and powerful in the anime.
As much as I love the manga, I'm glad he didn't go with its more comedic tone. Imho all of Part 1's best bits are the serious parts and Nakayama's direction is great for emphasizing that.
i like mappa's artystle in the final season of aot because it makes it feel a lot less colorful and "darker"
facts, if you read the manga you’d know it matches the tone really well
Just don't like how the characters look like shit, especially Mikasa lmao it was so jarring, all their mouths are fucked, Levi too, and the fight animation was really bland
I also enjoyed that the Titans were also CGI in retrospect. It really did a good job in noting that Titans are not special supernatural creatures, but a version of human weapons, and expendable like bullets.
The S4 artstyle is fine, for the key animation. But the color and contrast is washed out, and not pleasing to the eye at all. There's a million different ways it could be fixed, without losing tone. Characters look off-model more times than should be allowed, and that is mostly due to the shading, contrast, and poor color choice, and how they shape the look of the characters in-scene.
It's fine to like how it got darker in S4, it should get darker, and of course any other studio would've adapted similarly. Wit had been adapting their style and colors throughout S1-3 as well, and they too would've adapted to the dramatic change in tone for the 4th season, had they been the ones to adapt it.
I hate the argument that Mappa did "good" because the artstyle they went for is closer to the manga, and that the colors, tone, and atmosphere serves it well, when that is only a half truth.
It could've looked miles better, and i'd advice anyone to educate themselves a bit on compositing.
@@anonchalantboy I mean, the whole first season is also really dark, but still has that vibrant style which I personally prefer. No hate towards mappa at all but comparing the mangas tone with the worse use of color and style doesnt justify it.
0:35, someone who can actually just say a quick thank you and move on, even if you plug elsewhere in the vid, that little thank you leaves a good impression. I like.
I really hope ryu nakayama doesn’t get replaced as the director. It’s very unique and interesting in presentation. I really want to see his directing style and tone for the last two arcs of part 1.
I hope he gets replaced
csm isn't a right project to work on for him
he's great but agreed with the first reply. Cinematic isnt the best technique to present this show imo. I love the mange, but cant finish the anime
He kind of messed it up to be honest
I also found it to be a unique experience overall but I do think the show would have had a better time trying to embrace being more typical in things like character interactions, a lot of potential is just sort of washed out due to trying to be realistic
My opinion is that they keep him to direct any non-combat scenes and hire another director for the fights
Not gonna lie, chainsaw man taking a realistic cinematic effect makes it perfect, i mean thats when i think the manga was at its best, when the characters slowed down, and started to take in everything rather then.. revving themself up and going crazy, but i can’t really get to mentioning that without any spoilers
The Japanese fanbase hated that the characters didn’t contort and exaggerate their faces as much as they do in the manga.
@@Watermelon_Man the japanese fanbase hates everything
How is ice skating realistic? I had to throw up when Mappa ruined the Bat and the Leech fight
@@RomanticPopPunk how did they ruin a fairly generic fight? That wasn’t even one the crazier ones considering how fighting the big devils is a far better option then the humanoid ones
@@Watermelon_Man it's so stupid, I don't get why people who have already read the manga want a perfect transpose of it, if you do something different that is original and objectively well done why not? (I'm talking about the narrative, not the animation)
Csm has become one of my favourite anime, and a big reason for that is the direction take, the characters' fleshed out acting, the realistic flavor and the cinematic creative af shots. I really hope the director stays...
this was a reason why it was one of my favorites also, not sure why so many people dislike the approach 😕
@@alec4269headcannon
These people saw the manga covers with flashy neok colours and assumed the entire show should have looked like that
Basically all they wanted was a basic shonen anime for an extraordinary manga and since they got an extraordinary adaptation for an equally extraordinary manga, they're mad
@crystalblade13 For real I hope season 2 doesn’t lose that style for a more “shonen” directing method.
I wish season 2 wont change. The direction they took with season 1 was amazing.
@@abhrajeet841 just because you don't agree with the majority it doesn't mean that you have to call people stupid. It's called having an opinion.
Mappa is so goated. I get so mad when people complain about MAPPA having mid animation. WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT?! People don’t understand that animators in Japan work extremely hard to give us what we see today.
Mappa isn't goated, the people working there are. Mappa has stupid scheduling that requires their animators to overwork against their own will. The animators are extremely hard working and the people running Mappa take advantage of that. As a company they are horrible and it sucks seeing people praise them for that, unknowingly or not.
MAPPA has nothing special, there are many other great studios out there, you all are just D riders.
@@RXOBANSH33 This!!!!
chainsaw mans season 1 was honestly one of my favorite first seasons of anime ever. the animation, music, story telling (all be it the first 3rd of part 1) was so perfect for me and changed my outlook on anime. if the director doesnt come back i hope the second season keeps the same style of animation and cinematic feel
Especially with whats coming up. That direction could make a certain devil scene become one of the most iconic scenes in anime. I have no doubt in my mind it would break the internet
AOT season 4 being done in 6 to 8 months is absolutely nuts. Big props to MAPPA for that
The end product was still shit though nothing to congratulate them for lol.
@@smartguy6895dogsht in your words are the entirety of Tokyo revengers, 7DS and promised never land. Don’t be such a brain rotted fool that you think AOT is ruined just cuz of well polished cgi that you think is comparable to berserk 2016 😂
@@smartguy6895bro it still looked better than 80% of shows that came out that year, calm down
@@thepowerofsand6180eh
@@smartguy6895you are the shit one lol
12:25 and also because of fujimoto's love for Films. And also CSM does have serious moments. People seems to always forget about these. If it always would be wacky and chaos, then these moments won't be surprising anymore. And also CGI for chainsaw man for the close up shots and slower movements needs to be used because of chainsaws
they could not use cgi cause nobody's gonna complain about chainsaws not moving. Just animate it like its a sword ffs
@@heisenberg3206 then It would be saw man. Not chainsaw man
@@heisenberg3206 maybe you should just watch another show. There are plenty of shows that have a man with a sword for a hand.
@@mossystone584 You missed the point of that comment.
@@user-og6pb6dd5p😂 that cracked me up lmao
I''ll never understand the complaint of realism in Chainsaw Man, I love the realistic approach! As a long time dragon ball fan its nice to see fights that have realistic weight to them and not totally vibrant colors coating your eyes, while I see a lot of tatsuki fujimotos panels being way better than the anime I think that should just be expected as he isn't gonna be drawing every frame in the show. Also correct me if im wrong but I feel like chainsaw man has had a MASSIVE impact in the U.S. I've never seen an anime be this wide spread in awhile as chainsaw man has been and I say that as someone out of the "anime-sphere".
Anyway brilliant video!
@@yname thats very true while I love the earlier arcs of CSM it does not compare to the chaos that unfolds right after where the anime left at, it almost makes me think mappa did it intentionally as to stretch out the hype for the series but it was most likely them making 12 eps their goal all the way back in the starting production as adapting CSM is a pretty ambitious process and they didn't wanna screw it up
I don't think CSM is as popular worldwide as something like JJK or AoT was in it's prime.
I'm afraid with information you presented, that Mappa within the next couple years will probably implode if they keep with their approach of taking on huge projects with little regard for if the studio has the time or resources to back it up.
I absolutely loved CSM and I was so shocked when I saw complaints online.
The unique camera angles and character expressiveness were great.
In terms of character interactions its one of my favs in MAPPA
I felt the same, to be honest the tone the anime has is how I always thought the tone was for the series and the wackier scenes were just a touch of black comedy to alleviate the darkness and tragedy of certain scenes.
JJK season 2 new director is Shota Goshozono . He is one of the best in the industry. So i think JJK gonna turn out good
but the season 1 i dont know who the director was but it was unique in all of shonen to me
like the osts used for the battles, how the battles were made better than the manga using animation and just specific scenes matching with the playing music perfectly
i have never seen western metal play over a hype anime fight scene before and it worked so uniquely well. I just hope hes got the same creativity
@@animetic9937 believe me when i say he is the most creative director in anime industry right now and this is not the first time he is working on JJK. He directed and storyboarded ep 17 of JJK. Also he directed chainsaw man ep 8 which is the best episode of CSM.
@@animetic9937 also ousama ranking ranking ep 21.
@@animetic9937 Did you watch the trailer. The quality is there especially with the fights because the new director is amazing ...some people always find a reason to complain
@@pantelismat4352 When I first watched the trailer I was confused on why there was barely any details on the characters faces compared to the first season. Gojos eyes looked so bland compared to the first season. It just looks like they removed a bunch of details for no reason and made everything just solid colors.
Man I hope Ryu stays on for CSM. I loved the cinematic feel to it plus it they really captured the gritty aspect of the csm world itself. When I watched the first trailer that was exactly what I imagined the show to be like while reading the manga and someone who enjoys cinema, this show was a breath of fresh air cuz no mainstream shonen anime has ever looked or felt like it. People just want shows to stick to the old formula except giving something new a shot. Reminds me of how Gojo talks about the geezer higher ups in JJK.
that first teaser hits different to this day
They left already now lets hope he returns but unfortunately he has many against him that would make it difficult to.
@@SemekiIzuio
F the Japanese snowflakes
We Love Mappa!
Ofc we do! 😂
Indeed
9:23 I actually enjoyed the color changed, I’ve always seen it as the jump from season 3-4 completely changed the show and everything about it changed, it got much darker and more terrifying the change in colors made it feel that way
I agree. I’m pretty confident that was very intentional
Chainsaw man's cinematic feel is the best thing about it. It looks so good and is so satisfying to watch.
1. I think you also need to realize the important of the entire anime staff not just the director (like the animation producer, director of photography, and most importantly freelance animator who participate in the project). The more staff both project shared, the more it will affect each other just like chainsawman and jujutsu kaisen
2. Jigo does not look bad because they put their resources to jjk season 2, both of these show have a completely different staff working on it from the producer down to the very department it was produced in. What most likely affected its production is both vinland saga and attack on titan since they share the same department and staff member. Mappa simply doesnt care much about jigo production, the schedule is so bad even with the help of veteran in the industry working as an episode director, the final product is still underwhelming at the very best
3. Chainsaw man future project CANT and WILL not appear until at least 2024/2025 since both csm and jjk have pretty much the same staff and key animator. Why they both share the same staff ? Because both of these show have the same animation producer and similiar connection between staff. Main animator and staff for chainsaw man season 1 like kouki fujimoto, ryu nakayama, tatsuya yoshihara, shota goshozono, etc simply cant work on chainsaw man anymore because all of them are busy with their own project
Jigo also from what I heard has a relatively young and inexperienced team working on it, though imo it doesn't look that bad, MAPPA has spoiled people into thinking Jigo looks bad tbh, they haven't dealt with truly bad animation. I just hope if it does get a S2 it deserves better treatment or a different studio.
Also yeah there is a zero percent chance that CSM S2 comes before the middle of 2024.
@@AlexRight its hard to call the entire staff inexperience when they have the name of tetsuya wakano and jun shishido working as an episode director and storyboarder, they simply cant unleash their full potential because of the terrible schedule mappa gave them. Also yes jigo does not look "bad" , but it is still very underwhelming especially if you compare it with other action shonen jump titles
@@AlexRight some episodes look pretty bad lmao
Glad to hear Ryu Nakayama isn't returning back for CSM S2.
@@an_orange8911 thats not something to be glad about...
Two things. One, it's unfortunate that the cost of having such great anime like JJK, CSM, and AOT is having people work in sweatshop-like conditions. However, I know that there are millions who love their work, considering just how much detail and effort went into MAPPA's prime projects. Was it a good idea to only put resources into those and leave some smaller anime aside? I wouldn't know.
Two, you are probably the fastest-growing new TH-cam channel I've ever seen! Awesome job, my guy, from one content-creator to another.
It not everyday you find an upcoming youtuber that simply understands how to make videos of such quality and actually know how to be funny 😄
Keep up the good work!!!!👍
I loved the art style of CSM season 1. I almost stopped watching the season because the sexual stuff was getting too uncomfortable because Denji was a minor and the cinematic style was so realistic. When that stopped being the focus, the anime became a masterpiece.
I've been reading the manga ever since. It's crazier and funnier but I just cannot forget the scene in the anime of Makima putting on her white dress shirt and how beautiful it was animated. That type of scene never would have been in the manga. Even the clip in the video at 12:25 of Power walking down a hallway was gorgeous.
anime fans often don't realize just how much of what they watch is CGI. I really hope people realize that CGI in anime has gotten quite good. What people don't like isn't CGI, they don't like _bad_ CGI
ik when i saw the armored titan falling in the video i thought to myself "wow that was cgi, i never noticed"
Legit, like CGI has gotten so good in recent years. Like I remember when not season 2 came out, animators have come so far with incorporating cgi into anime. That it can sometimes even be hard to notice if you aren't looking for it.
To be fair, I think Mappa is actually doing a pretty neat job at Hell's Paradise. You compared the fight between JJK and Hell's Paradise but I think you missed that Mappa had to animate the clash between two of the strongest characters in JJK unlike Hell's Paradise where until the recent episode, There was no character stronger than the MC. Idk if I am correct, it's just my opinion
Actually many don't know the fact theres something called as a money making project and a passion project in animation studios, JJK and CSM are currently mappas passion project where they go all our and don't cheapen interms of animation
@@ACommonWeeb-ff3dfthat explains the money signs during the fight😂
@@SemekiIzuio money signs?
@A Common Weeb the creator of the video had to censor the blood due to demonetisation
So the money signs are actually monetization symbols used for censoring
Actually, I like how MAPPA handled AOT final season in terms of CGI usage and less saturated color scheme. While I still dont necessarily admire CGI, MAPPA managed to make it feel pretty natural, highlighting most stressful scenes with it. Colors wise, I think using less brighted ones fits this season really good, considering things turn out being not that funny anymore.
If we don't consider the titans, MAPPA's CGI is pretty impressive objectively. The CGI buildings, background elements, ships, and the weapons looked super realistic. Not to mention, their camera movements are top notch. I wonder if Wit would've ever managed to achieve MAPPA's level of CGI excellence and realism. In terms of art, MAPPA's a mile above, some scenes were so distorted they looked even more impacting. Both studios have used differing art styles for their respective take on Attack on Titan's adaptation. However, none is objectively better, especially since MAPPA's muted colors are perfect to depict the all-out war everyone finds themselves in during Season 4. As a result, MAPPA's darker art style is perfect to show the horrors of war. Wit Studio's brighter colors could've possibly looked out of place during this arc, so this change was ultimately for the better. In terms of lighting, MAPPA kinda messed up part 1, but part 2 and 3 looked amazing in my eyes.
If I'm not mistaken, the manga publisher had been pressuring adaptation studios to (more closely) match the manga's artstyle since Season 3, part 1.
Sauce?
@@seg162 I call bs as he never had an art style to begin with. Wit studios had to make up their own and thats what stuck.
@@Badboy25251 "he never had an art style to begin with" That makes *_zero_* sense.
The whole Chainsaw Man situation is Twitter brain-rot at its finest. The director did an incredible job. The anime differentiated itself from the manga, and gave us a new view of the Chainsaw Man world.
imagine a universe where wit studios never stopped animating aot
Thankfully I don't live in that one.
@@eliassideris2037 why
@@r4yv1 'cause I like mappa's style better.
did not age well
Why
Why
the reason chainsaw man didnt have the impact some people expected at least for me was because there were only 12 episodes in the season. im sure theres plenty of reasons why that is. My only complaint with hell paradise as well is because it will also only have 12 or 13 episodes which makes sense thinking about jujutsu kaisen season 2 starting basically the week after hells paradise ends. Jujutsu kaisen season 1 was able to provide so much with their 24 episodes.
No talking of Vinland Saga Season 2 because it's just perfect !
your so underrated for no reason ur content is so informative, while also keeping it entertaining keep it up bro
I didn’t even realize that you are a new channel until after this video, the quality is just that good!
Lmfao bro literally predicted the drama 😭
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I will never understand the complaints about Denji's Chainsaw-form being CGI. He has three CONSTANTLY MOVING CHAINSAWS on his head and arms. The amount of work that would need to be put only for those three things is absurd. Katana man,sure, I can understand it, but at that point i think they just decided that all hybrids would be cgi not to make Denji stand out like a sore thumb.
Never read the manga of CSM but the anime was great! Hope whoever took over for season 2 keeps that same level of frantic energy in its animation. JJK and CSM have the best introsong animation I've seen in a long time, I adore the semi-rotoscoped-but-with-style thing they do!
Great video. The pacing is smooth and you have a nice style! Nicely researched and edited too. You’ll make some amazing things, I can feel it!
First off, really great vid
And as for CSM, I doubt it would have had as big of an effect because it's just not as accessible for most audiences anyway with how weird some aspects of it can be ( prime example would be most of EP 7 lol )
Anyway, I've read the manga and I absolutely loved the anime, though I really disagree with the anime being different from the manga, especially in terms of pacing.
In fact, a lot of the hate the show got just sounded more like the show wasn't the same as people's headcanons of what it should be lol.
I agree honestly. Another complaint I heard for why people didn't like CSM was because all the characters were selfish and self-centered and there was no comradery at all; So again, I can see how this wouldn't be accessible to most audiences, especially since CSM is more dark and gritty than most shonen people like to watch.
Most shonen have moments of wholesomeness, selflessness, found family and the undying hope the good always wins in the end, which doesn't really happen in CSM. That doesn't mean there's no angst or darkness in regular shonen, but it always comes back around to these emotions/tropes, this is why most people come back to this genre. Compared to CSM, Jujutsu Kaisen is like taking a nice stroll in the park, and that shit gets dark.
I mean, JJK literally started with Yuuji's grandfather telling him to help as many people as he can so he won't die alone, and CSM started with Denji "transferring ownership" from the Yakuza to Makima through rebirth. Granted, the Pochita scene was pretty wholesome, but I can totally understand why some people would like one more than the other based on themes alone. I think it was only a surprise to MAPPA because they spent so much time, effort and money into making 12 EDs and it still didn't top JJK, which granted, is kind of surprising when put that way.
I also think the CGI thing is dumb, and will always be dumb. Chainsaw Man looked great, Attack on Titan looked great. I know we all love a well-animated fight scene, but honestly I would rather they use CGI to reach the deadline instead of overworking their most talented animators and burning them out, that would be tragic.
I think my biggest issue was people always sing that the coloration of Chainsaw men was on with how muted the colors were and how it wasn't as bright and colorful as the manga and then I realized it's because most people read the fan colorization and they're taking that to be the real tone of Chainsaw man when if you read it in black and white it also feels different from color.
Chainsaw Man was way more popular than JJK before each of their anime adaptations were made.
I'm amazed that such a new and small youtuber can put out such well thought and well produced work. Keep it up!
I don’t care about mappa’s chainsaw man adaptation, I just want the bomb girl arc to be a movie
i want csm to be remade by a competent director who understands the author's vision
ryu nakayama could've just made a live action adaptation instead making anime having character acting every episode for "realism" which csm doesn't even lean into at all
@@heisenberg3206 mr cool.
For your knowledge fugimoto the writter himself thanked ryu nakayana and said anime was perfect up to down. So this concludes that you misjudged whole manga and writter thanking director and saying anime is perfect make a your opinion rejected 😌
Honesty, I loved the adaptation and I just don't understand all the controversy surrounding this adaptation.
@@cheese-id8op these people think that they know better than the author himself. In reality they don't know shit about anything and just push the agenda MAPPA is bad 😞
@@gamerboyrax2222 of course the author wouldn't just say out loud "this man ruined my story on the television i'm gonna sue his ass now" so the author chose the safe way.
I'm sure there might've been tense situation behind the scenes
Tatsuki Fujimoto himself said that he wanted the anime (before it released) to have a different direction compared to the Manga. He said that his style and influences would only work in the Manga and that it would not translate well to the anime. People complaining about the anime's direction are incredibly stupid
to be fair Jujutsu Kaisen season 2 is going to be a MASSIVE one, practically with the Shibuya arc being apart of this season.
I think the CGI is a great addition to anime in general, especially in certain situations. It gives an otherworldly vibe to certain creatures or monsters of the anime they do
Demon slayer does cgi really well. There are some questionable scenes, but that's a very few out of many. The CGI in season 2 and 3 has been fantastic. On the other hand I just think the CGI from MAPPA in AoT is bad overall. There's a very visible anti alias effect happening with MAPPA CGI. Wit studios handled CGI really good too. They mixed in a lot of hand drawn, and 2d effects with the CGI. Also the bolder lines and more vivid colors helps a lot with masking CGI
@@JO-hs1ue you've gotta be kidding
@@JO-hs1uetbh u got the demon slayer cgi and aot cgi mixed
@@JO-hs1ue nah demon slayer has horrible cg
Aot nails it's cg
@@lmb1563 I guess we just don't agree. AoT CGI is so bad for me. But with demon slayer I feel like it really fits into the style of the show. After season 1, the CGI is much better
I have to say the thing with MAPPA is not just their insane team never getting to see their family but is also the shows they pick, the shows they pick are all very dark straying from norms of anime and manga and then they add their own new touch of flare to it sparking it into a worldwide sensation. Almost all of the shows they animate have become sensational, to name a few are Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man, Attack On Titan, And To a lesser degree Dororo, Jigokuraku (Both peak btw) and Kakegurui. Really showing how prominent of a studio they have become in the past few years, overall MAPPA animating something causes it to go from unknown to a sensation, And this video encapsulates this perfectly.
(In addition, whilst Hell's Paradise is not as well animated as their other works it's still extremely well animated and it's animation is only getting better with each episode, episode 8 was a great example of this fact, but another thing holding MAPPA back is their amount of employees, if they had more they could have everything they turn out look as clean as CSM or JJK)
Chainsaw man jujutsu Kaisen and AOT we’re not “unknown” before mappa. Mappa definitely helped but jujutsu Kaisen was already pretty successful and chainsaw man was giving one piece a run for its money before it even had an anime announcement.
@@blakedavis2447 that is true but mappa animating them brings them even further into the spotlight, and gege even adresses this at the end of book 14, ofc they were known but mappa animating them made them even more successful.
If you think hells paradise is well animated you are completely delusional
No offense, but dude a grand total of anime is very dark, with dark themes. That's what anime was known for at least where I was for a while. Like sure you have the comedies, but chainsaw man was not the darkest I've seen, it actually seemed a par for the course of how dark anime and manga can be. It's actually the "norm" as far as dark anime
@@Starburst514 alright where did I specify not other shows are dark? does that take away from the fact that the shows mappa pick up are dark? no I just said what mappa picks up is dark, not that its the darkest or there are other dark manga etc like jesus.
Chainsawman vs Katanaman was one of my favorite fight scenes
Bro is a brand new youtuber and getting tons of views shoutout to you man
Found your channel on discovery and I’m loving your break downs and banter. Giving me scamboli feels with the break downs and humour being informative and funny. Excited for the next video 👍🏿
3rd video getting 300k views is a good sign. Godspeed brother.
Something that might be worth mentioning as well in terms of controversies present with MAPPA in regards to JJK S2 is that Getou's VA (Takahiro Sakurai) confessed to having a decade-long extra-marital affair with a broadcast writer, while both keeping his marriage and his affair hidden from each of the women. Especially shocking considering how relevant Getou will be in S2, even if it's not an issue exlcusive to MAPPA in this case.
I wanted to include this but the video was already done by the time I found out :(
@@samyalready Ah that's fair enough then, good video regardless
That's really fudged up
Great video!
"What did Mappa cook for JJK?"
Pure, unfiltered terror
MAPPA studios deserve all the credit they are getting and even more. They are running so many projects and still don't fail to give us excellent animation.
You shouldn't be suport corporate slavery
So i guess it’s cool for the employees to slave to work on entertainment for us.
@@1kbmahan mappa always got a free pass for everything they did, it was the same thing with studio madhouse. God forbid any other studio tried this.
the first chainsaw man "controversy" is so dumb because its a adaptation not a replication if you really wanted to anime to be just like the manga i think you have the wrong idea about the process of adapting manga into anime.
Why adapt Chainsaw Man if you’re just going to alienate the main fanbase? You may as well creat something original or adapt a more fitting source material.
I think jjk is now better off as park mainly focused on action but the composition was really bad but the new director shota ghosozono is one of the best in the industry and you can tell just look at any episode directed by him
This aged well like wine
This was a great video! Looking forward to future ones.
I can agree to an extent with everything except for CSM. I didn’t find it bad and for a non manga reader, my wife loved the show. For their other projects you can really tell how much MAPPA puts into their work by how well it’s paced. Hells Paradise imo had horrible pacing and thus the fights feel few and far between in comparison to something like JJK. I truly think they’re just overworked and trying to be the poster child for every big seasonal anime release. I think they need to stop taking every release that comes to their doorstep and focus more on the quality of their work rather than how often we see it. The name MAPPA will eventually lose its good household name and transition to a regretful one.
In my opinion Mappa did better job on the Final Season of Aot than other studios ever could Including Wit, the feeling of emotions and epicness in the cgi and hand-drawn animation of Mappa is something else in aot
I believe WIT did a better job in nearly every single instance of combat. They covered details in a way that Mappa simply never could. I know Mappa had little time to do Wit’s meticulous work, but still WIT is just better.
@@bigdojacoom8999 I'm talking about season 4 only and Detailed drawing of WiT is nowhere near to Mappa
@@anshulsirohi007 I’m not sure you’ve seen the rest of AOT if you’re genuinely saying that. Mappa was able to make the show look like the manga, but that’s not always a good thing. WIT wasn’t trying to do so, which let them bridge out and create far more vibrant scenes with extravagant colors and lighting. Not to mention how much better the fighting scenes were. Have you seen any seen with Levi in it? Levi escaping from Kenny, Levi vs The Beast Titan, Levi vs The Female Titan, literally any Titan fight? WIT is just far better at creating Attack On Titan content. They’re the reason why we’re so interested in the anime in the first place. Stop downplaying WIT just to make yourself feel better about Mappa.
@@bigdojacoom8999 Dude wit was mainly good for combat animation especially b'coz of arifumi imai's work (hes a freelancer who animated all the fights you mentioned), but its not like wit was well suited studio for season 4 that whole colour pallet was not well suited for that season just like how mha s6 first half didn't suit the kind of theme the story was following. And not even going to dive into pacing/adaptation issues they had. The main difference actually is created by the fact that aot was a passion project in wit but in mappa its a money making project, now don't blaming studios for this kind of discrimination since its a way how all japanese animation studio operate(except kyoto animation)
This is gonna sound insane, but despite the fact that I liked their adaptations of CSM, JJK and Hell's Paradise, the one series I hope MAPPA eventually gets back to is Idaten Deities. Obviously it wasn't a spectacle of animation or anything, but the color palate and direction was just so interesting (also it was crazy fun and had a fire OP). Anyways, great video.
@@shinramune9002 I'm aware. That's why I said "eventually."
@@shinramune9002 Oh, that I did not know. What kind of releases are we talking here? Made in Abyss levels (a few chapters a year), or just full on hiatus?
@@shinramune9002 Oh, damn... As long as the remake is still ongoing, I suppose. Still, I stand by what I said. I'd even be fine with them going anime original, 'cause that cliffhanger was brutal. Guess only time will tell though. Hey, thanks for the info though.
"wasnt spectacle" lol
The animation was great
Pretty funny watching this after the twitter meltdown
Aged like fine wine
Dude you've only made 3 videos?! This video alone feels like you've been a youtuber for years already. Keep it up 👍🏻
The quality of these videos is great... You gotta remember us when you get famous tho 😂
About the attack on Titan part, I think the way they color grated it was on purpose, to make it feel more like how the show feels, the last season changed the way we looked at things and I think the way they color grated it compliments it wel
Yeah and it's not like teams at MAPPA is incapable of making shows with vibrant and sharp colors, they just save that style for series that are not as dark as something like AoT or CSM.
even if it was wit staff animating it, the color still wouldn't look like how mappa staff's photography team decided to go with. the color change was due to lack of talent in the staff not being half as good as the wit staff
something can be grey and gritty but also be visual pleasing at the same time, AOT final season color grading has literal 0 dynamics
@@Hetsu.. Thank God I'm not alone on this. I absolutely despise the color grading and incomplete thin lines for the drawing as a whole. Final Season was a hard downgrade for a series that already has a controversial ending (which I also despise but I don't wanna spread hate).
@Mika for s3 wit had a tiny team with absolutely no time, it wasnt just the compositing, every was lacking compared to wit standards.
Fun note about chainsaw man episode 1. They released their animation process to show what a lot of people thought was CGI in the zombie fight…was not actually CGI. Like for example Denjis running and waving his arms right after the start of the fight. Looks CGI, but is not.
Hell's paradise intro is gas I was shocked when I seen that. Thanks for making the video, I knew nothing about mappa until hells paradise. Imo, I like the studio, i got no problem with them aside from the sweatshop work conditions, I hope they change that.
7:17 gosso is much better director than park. Park is Really good at action but not much at direction. Season 2 does look better than season from The trailer in almost every aspect. The Animation, compositing, Choose of colors, art direction (backgrounds), complex storyboards and even Character acting (animation)
Phenomenal video!!!! Not to many people can say their first 3 videos they uploaded were bangers lol Wishin you the best ✊
I have faith by season 2 of Jigokuraku MAPPA will change things around to focus more on it considering it'll after AOT ends and other shows go on break.
As a Japanese speaker, I can point out some additional issues with the Chainsaw Man anime adaptation that were not mentioned previously.
1. Alteration of Important Lines Paralleling Manga:
For instance, in the first episode, Denji says, 「邪魔すんなら死ね！」 (If you get in the way, die!), which is modified from its manga counterpart, 「俺達の邪魔ァすんなら死ね！」(If you get in OUR way, die!). The removal of 「俺達の」 (Our) also eliminates the beautiful parallel with Makima's line that appears later in the manga, 「私達の邪魔するなら死んで」 (If you get in our way, die). These two instances of 'our' carry different meanings and illustrate the conflict between Denji and Makima. Removing at least one of them is quite disappointing for manga fans, especially in the Japanese version.
2. Inaudible Voice Lines:
I don't have legal access to the English dub, but I and many Japanese viewers had difficulty understanding what Kishibe and Samurai Sword were saying. The problem is not that they speak too quietly, which might be in line with their characters, but rather the background music and sound effects playing simultaneously make their voice lines completely incomprehensible.
It's not that the anime adaptation is a total mess, but for me, it feels like they missed out on the full potential that the manga offered. Perhaps the manga set such a high bar that no studio could truly meet it.
LMFAO imagine being mad that Chainsaw Man was animated beautifully
They did a great job on Bubble too. The animation and visuals were stunning.
That was Wit Studios btw
@@lazyworkingsloth you sure i remember the trailer coming out saying that mappa produced it.
No it was wit
Mappa literally doesnt stop. Jjk season 1, attack on titan, Chainsaw man, jjk season 2, hells paradise. These guys are a animation making machine
Quality > quantity
Man this is so underrated. The editing and the way you talk about things is so good man! Nice vid and cant wait for more vids❤
I really loved the direction CSM took in the Anime, as after the Manga the Anime felt like something unique, something to be able to stand on its own feet. It was a fun ride as it was something new. Would it have been more like the Manga, I wouldn´t have this much fun with it. Seeing the same thing twice just isn´t as great, so I´m glad that didn´t happen
This was a good video man. I hope to see you blow up, you’re talented and with enough hard work I could see you hitting 100k and eventually a million even.
8:47 because The compositing was pretty bad and it got better in every part. Also the compositing for AOT was Completely outsourced to asahi production. Not wit themselves (sorry for putting so much comment, but there is a lot of misunderstanding)