@@frankiesteinsbbg it should've been like that but instead it was all squished into 11 episodes with heaps of material left out, which is disappointing as a non-manga reader
@@bazdaddy420 The anime didn't really rewrite anything, the only thing it did was shorten it, all the stupid events were also in the manga and in the cut material there was no explanation for those stupid events. And Emma is the worst character in the manga. There are no stakes in the manga, whatever suits Emma goes. Emma was Mary Sue.
season 2 actually doesn't exist! who else is still waiting for TPN s2? edit: thought we all understood that my comment is sarcastic 😭 yes ive watched the very disappointing season 2 and yes ive read the amazing manga
i think the funniest thing about tpn season 2 not having yugo is that apparently there was a tiktok account that posted yugo every day until he appeared in season 2, and once season 2 came out and he wasn't in it, the account changed its icon to a clown emoji and deleted itself a day later lol
It’s so weird that they decided to butcher the second season the way they did. If they had just… continued adapting the manga, then they could’ve had a long running, beloved, and likely successful series for years, but instead they decided to remove various plot points, change the story, cut it off early, and then shove the rest of the plot into a lame montage that just alludes to the plot points we never got to see. It’s honestly baffling how the company behind the show went so far out of the way to NOT do the thing that could have kept the series successful for several seasons
Nah the manga still sucked. It was still somewhat okay till the goldy pond arc but not as good as the first arc but god the manga ending sucked ass. Emma's "the demons dindu nuffin don't kill them" got memed hard.
@@rickfastly2671 not aot level bad but certainly didn't live up to expectations. The manga clearly wrote itself in a corner because the only reason why the demon realm didn't get glassed by nukes is because of the demon god.
Basically they skipped the most fan-beloved arc out of the whole thing (post-escape, anyway). Like, the manga fans were PISSED and I've read some of the manga and gotta agree. S2 was a rushed mess @@bazdaddy420
in the manga when they meet Yugo in the bunker he has this cracked cup and some old cookies with him and in the anime they actually showed the stupid cup and moldy cookies on the table. like... was that middle finger to my face really necessary.. GOD
FR!!! i remember ppl were in denial saying maybe he gonna comeback the next episode T^T, and the studio animated the the first episodes almost faithfully but then they announced after ep4 (I think) that they gonna make original ending 🙃
@@eam2739 every time he didnt show up i was like "its olay its fine maybe he'll come in later" and then he didnt 💔💔💔 I heard someone suggest he was that random man that gave the old demon that ate him the pen addition but honestly if thats true then id rather he just. Not exist at all 😭 disservice to my man fr
YESSS i was trembling by the time they went down the bunker, expecting yugo to be there sitting on his chair- but no, they had to nerfed him. I was watching with my sister and we kept on hoping that he would be there, maybe as a surprise or anything really, since he's one of the reasons the plot drives forward but no. imo it started to be apparent that it's not worth watching when the animators showed that he wasn't there.
@@bazdaddy420 I can tell- I had an opportunity to watch it at a friends house, I think I watched the first episode of season 2 and never went out of my way to watch any more. It's a shame, compared to the first season.
@@BestSoapzthe first episode is literally shot for shot the manga material though. Seems like a lot just switched up on the series once mystery was gone. Takes a bit before it skips material that to be fair people would say is boring too since it doesn’t further myster and is more character stuff people seem to say they want but complain it’s boring. Overall I don’t hate on the creators they had little choice. Animating the rest was just time consuming and not big pay off as even manga people (this happens for all series) shonen wise started hating it. It’s like if given the choice Naruto would have a nice clean last arc vs war to end fast and make people happier since so many think pain arc is peak and rest is bad. (Not me just online discourse though online people say thousand year blood war would fail and people love it and they think AOT is trash and it’s more popular than game of thrones pirate wise. So internet. Ps. Showed this arc of promise never land in a cut up shorter movie like version 1:20 h each season to a friend years apart and they thought season 2 as someone not into anime was fine. Though they would hate it. I quickly showed them what was supposed to happen and they just shrugged. 🤷 and still liked anime. 😅
I still wonder what was the thought process behind just,skipping Goldy Pond. Not even skipping it,straight up removing it from the anime's canon. It is truly baffling that they thought that was a wise decision. And sure,anime can go original sometimes,FMA'03 did it and its original story is pretty good. But this... This is just pure dogshit
What I heard from the internet basically hearsay one of the theories for all the skipping/rushing of season 2 is because the manga sales near the end wasn't doing good. So, the anime studio decided f this just rush it so they can get some easy cash.
@@bazdaddy420yeah I think fans would have honestly just have had Goldy Pond and then ending the show on a cliffhanger to encourage people to read the manga to find out the end of the story, yknow? I'd rather have an unfinished anime than... Whatever this was
58:57 This for me was one of the worst parts. Our hero meeting the literal GOD of that world, and they show a 3 second screenshot of the encounter and call it a day…
They might as well added "Don't You Forget about Me ,by Simple Minds" and epilogue paragraphs for all the characters, with how corny the slide show was.
@@amazinglife_hkyeah I believe they remove blood from certain scenes on purpose as they would have to add a higher level of parental ratings if they do add it. They do that a lot nowadays
To be honest I don't even want a season 2 at all. The fact that they had already accomplish their main goal and escape is just enough to resolve the story
@@lemonyvee after seeing the reviews for season 2, this is exactly what i did. It works well on its own. they escaped and thats all I cared about. S1 by itself makes this anime top tier. I recommend it to people who are new to anime but tell them to stop at S1 cause it works well
I religiously followed the manga when it came out and fell off of the second season after I realized Mister had been written out, so I didn't realize just how much they skipped. Listening to your summary, I got upset all over again because so many of the problems in the writing were problems the anime created, especially with the big argument with Norman. In the manga, we saw Lamda 742 and how deformed they made people, we saw that the portal in Goldy Pond didn't work, we saw Goldy Pond. So when Norman is giving his side, we understand him. He's seen the worst of the worst of both demons and humanity. Why would he want to go to the human world when the human world put them in this situation and continues to allow it? And why would he want to save the demons when the demons did this to them? But we also understand Emma saying that the problem isn't with the people, it's with the system. She's seen good demons like Sonju and Mujika and bad demons like Nolan and the demons of Goldy Pond. She's seen the human strike squad murder several of her friends before her very eyes. She's seen that there's good and bad demons and humans, but all of the bad guys seem to be working for the establishment, so maybe if they just get rid of that, everything will be okay. SPOILERS: And yet, everyone agrees with Norman, so Emma does too, externally, at least. And things seem great, everyone's reunited and happy and things are finally starting to look up. Except no they aren't, because of course they aren't. And it's only after seeing Norman make moves behind everyone's back and seeing the kids with Emma finally re-acclimate to being safe, that the conversation about Mujika comes up. And Norman once again makes a good point, even if the demons don't have to eat humans any more, they still may want to. The royals wanted to, even though they haven't had to for centuries; Sonju wanted to- though Emma doesn't know that. Unless the threat is eliminated, they'll never be safe. Their family will never be safe. Even if they make it to the human world, if they get rejected and thrown back into the demon world, they'll still be in danger. And that's when Emma brings up going to the Seven Walls. If there's no mortal solution, then they'll go to a god. They'll probably never even make it, much less manage to fix things, which is why Norman sets up the time limit. Both sides are honestly being narrow-sighted. Norman just assumes that killing the demons will fix everything, as if the Ratri clan doesn't show that there are plenty of humans working with the demons, humans that will be none too happy to have their collaborators wiped out. And Emma is just hoping against all hope for a happy ending that will literally take an act of god to have a chance of happening. And yet, we've seen the paths that put them here, and why they can't stray from it. It's a great setup that's honestly not carried through the best. I had hoped that the anime would be a chance for the author to fix the mistakes they had made in the original ending, not add more of them.
The way the manga explains it (at least from your explanation) just seems WAY better than the anime, like there seems to be more reason for both Norman and Emma to have their beliefs in the manga. Thanks a lot for commenting this, gave me a lot of insight. Cheers bro
@bazdaddy420 the manga actually let's us see the horrors of both and allows Emma to experience way more than her anime counterpart. One issue with the manga was a time skip. Which could have been an anime original season. It would have allowed the anime to fix various pacing issues, flesh out various characters more, and show more of the demon world. But instead the anime went nah we are gonna do this even faster and worse. Part of the reason the Mangas pacing picked up was cause it was set to be canceled. So they had to rush the final arc. The anime did not need to do that
@@roxan_1314 yeah it seems like the anime just had so many opportunities to fix what the manga did wrong (from what I've heard about it), but we all know how that turned out
The ending is just disgusting, at the very end Emma has to sacrifice at least something in the entire manga, her connection with her family. After which the author, as always, kills any bet in the anime, reuniting them despite the fact that it was the PRICE, after which there are no consequences and so on throughout the manga
@Nikoleg4444 the price was her memories NOT that she couldn't see her family again. The ending is supposed to be bitter sweet because Emma even if she's ruinited with everyone she used to love she doesn't know shit about what they suffered through and needs to rebuild ALL her relationships from scratch. It's like if a comma patient woke up and needed to reconnect to everyone who was close to them it's sad because those memories were lost but sweet because you can make new ones
I will never be able to forgive them for ruining the reunion between Ray, Emma, and Normal. The way it was done in the manga managed to bring a tear to my eye and not being able to experience that in an animated form will always make me feel as though I was robbed. :(
@@ak-_ray got the sharingan and byakugan and six eyes and got the inverted spear of heaven, while emma got inumakis ct and he got a 5 leaf clover grimoire and got infinity and destroyed everyone besides normal, and normal got kanekis kagune and and it protected him and it was revealed he got a heavenly restriction and he was part demon, part demigod, part human, part god, and he learned to use kaioken up to 10.
When me and my sister watched TPN, it was one of the first animes my sister actually got invested in, anyways when season 2 came out, the moment she saw Norman on screen she felt satisfied with the story and didn’t want to see anything else after that, knowing that she would just be disappointed 💀
My headcanon is that the kids never survived after escaping the ranch. Everything that happens afterwards is a hallucination - an impromptu DnD session played by the kids while they either die of dehydration or get picked off by demons. Too much is simultaneosly off and convenient.
@@moonskyre4221 I never read the manga. Regardless, I still think their chances of survival were rediculously low. They had no survival skills outside of a pantry and they just happened to be found by demons that believed in free range hunting? If this happened in a humans-to-chickens, analogy, that means the free-rangers were living suspiciously close to a high-security government-owned property without getting arrested. If there were enough "chickens" to support them, that implies that there should be way more "adult" chickens out in the woods, or way more breakouts are taking place than the series implies. How many chickens do you see running around in a forest? The only reason we have wild pigeons and horses is because they were abandoned.
@@moonskyre4221 Never read the manga. I still feel their chances are low. There should be more adult humans in the woods if there are enough "chickens" to support free-range hunters. That, or there are far more successful escapes than the series implies.
@@CRanunculus Well you are right to an extent but I will spoil a lil bit of the beginning of the manga. The kids are helped by a friendly demon and that’s how they survive out in the woods even if their chances were super low. They’re taught how to kill demons and how to hunt.
I’d always just heard that season 2 was horrible. I never watched the show, and read the manga recently. The manga was great the whole way through, lots of questions about what it means to eat, to live, to hunt, the justification that can be found for terrible actions and how appealing, even seemingly reasonable, they can be. Characters learn to rely on and understand others, creating hope even in the darkest times. Hearing about how season 2 went, it was almost like it switched to an entirely different manga that wasn’t nearly as tense, emotional, and thought provokinv
Yeah I thought as much, everywhere I looked people seemed to have the same opinion. Fucken sucks that it didn't pan out the same way in the anime :( although I might give the manga a read eventually
It feels like we read different mangas, because manga, like anime, all it does is raise various questions, and then abandon these questions after Emma said that it’s so wrong, after which all the dissatisfied characters completely rewrite their character and ideals. The same Sonju and Lucas, who were for the idea of hunting people outside of farms, and then simply appearing at the very end fighting with the queen, so that Emma could take all the people away and remove the need for demons to eat people. Without even talking about how conveniently they resolved the issue of demons needing to eat people, simply by saying that there is “magical royal blood” that, without a single side effect, simply solves all this
@@Nikoleg4444yeah I don’t get the revisionist history. People do realize you can like things and know they have problems. It’s all still an entertainment ride. Seems like the series had the issue I find with many people who hate shone and call any new gen shonen generic trope trash in that a good hook will be great but it’s not gonna go long form. The long lasting shows have hooks throught piece meal. The big hook makes people tune in but a too good one and that’s all people focus on and when they don’t get it they complain. One piece hooks with something you know is far away and in meantime the author can do whatever as all islands can be anything. Death not is great hook but the story had to move fast and keep building till it runs out of steam. Hence why people think the middle sorta end after ___ is less good. Promise never land animated would be a lot of trouble filling in issues for no big pay off. I get why they said nah. Bleach you say yes and fill in tybw there’s something there and the manga creator is refreshed and loves their world and can fill in holes. Guy who made one piece could fill you with his ideas for weeks. Promise never land is great fun just that it isn’t supposed to be what people though. It’s a short thriller lengthened by blown up success. It’s the query book idea that every agent says yes on while the agent really needs to let say a one piece or jjk cook as they have lasting appeal but not the episode 1 super hook. IMO execution matters more than originality anyway and people too soon only stick with hook shows. Anyway I still like promise never land and didn’t hate the season once I just accepted it’s another timeline or what if and condensed spark notes. Not like the manga was perfect even if it sorta was better I’d rather not drag through 60 eps to get to the same spot for years.
I was actively making memes about it in the trenches on tumblr when we were watching this first unfold. With every new episode we’d say “alright, bunkerdad must be just around the corner *this time!”* all while looking like the ‘this is fine’ dog. We laughed to hide the pain.
When I started watching it, I was in tears, I was in denial. I never read the manga, but I was absolutely devastated and confused, The only good thing that came out was seeing Isabella hold a gun/rifle/sniper (idk), I was so upset that I momentarily went back into my 💔🐺⛓️😭🥀🖤 darkness edgelord phase. Needless to say, it affected me.
While Season 2 of the anime was definitely screwed over more, the manga was also screwed by Shonen Jump. There were several threads and mysteries that were randomly wrapped up at the very last second as the story suddenly ended. From what I can tell, the author had *at least* one major arc left, but Shonen Jump randomly popped up and gave them like five chapters to wrap everything up. While the overall story is brilliant and beautiful, the ending is without a doubt rushed and unsatisfying. So when rumors of Season 2 making changes to the source material came up, people were excited because we thought perhaps they would take steps to rectify the rushed ending and expand on things the author hadn't thought of earlier on. A lot of us tried really hard to keep drinking the kool aid that maybe it'd work out in the end. I remember mothers basement making a video that maybe they were setting up Isabella v. Gracefield Kids Round 2. And every single episode they proved us more and more wrong. But that friggin slideshow to end the show? Wow that hurt.
@@chloe1078 I thought it would involve the demon and human worlds coming together and the chaos exploding in everyone's faces, and that Sonju would be one of the final villains, given how excited he was at the prospect of eating "wild" humans again. I also thought that what The One asked of Emma was something more gruesome and cruel, like eating her brain, and that the Gracefield kids would have to completely rewrite the world order to save her. And I had hoped that Isabella's role would have been expanded. I wanted to see more of her as Grandma and how she played off her demon masters.
Omg I remember how people were like “season two could fix all the issues with the manga”. Ahahaha we were so innocent, we actually thought they would try at all
@@NunyaBiznessss I'm surprised Sonju wasn't amongst those crooked band of hunters in Goldy Pond given how he was, it almost seems like that's what the manga was foreshadowing and would've been pretty interesting to see Emmas reaction to it. I'd reckon it'd be emotions of confusion, hurt, feelings of betrayal, and it'd serve as a good way to make her actually question and confront the illogical basis behind her ideals of not wanting to hurt demons when confronted by Norman about it later. Sonju being a part of Goldy Pond could've easily served as a gateway to giving Emma character development and would've fixed the whole problem with her becoming the "merry sue" character whose always right, too bad it didn't turn out like that though.
While there was certainly some loss in the psychological aspects of tpn after the first arc there was also a lot of good in the other three arcs even if the ending was rather rushed but taking all of that and mashing it into one season was a catastrophe.
The whole help room is to introduce another character a more mature character who is slowly going insane in that bunker and he lead to another arc but that is just cut and the ending is different too like... haiz
I realised that after I finished editing the video, but either way it was a stupid decision to remove so much of the manga's original content in the anime
yeah even as someone that didn read the comic..S1 was so deep and nuissanced..and like you said..the entire monster faction gets overthrown in a slide show..aint they suppose to be strong?
i like to think that the anime is an alternate universe where yuugo and luca never get separated and their family survives and they all go to the human world happily ;-;
Bro even my MOM noticed the drop in writing. I definitely recommend the manga to anyone who wants to continue the series. You can start at volume 6 when they escape and you'll *immediately* see the difference
I remember reading the manga immediately after i watched s1 cause i was too excited to wait for a s2. Even if the manga has some issues around the end i still enjoyed it. I tried to be hopeful for s2 because they did skip a bit but when i saw they took out Yuugo ep 3 i knew it was over. And i knew it was so fucking over when they rushed the 2 year timeskip, and then ended the anime in a slideshow😮💨 I wanted to kms. I will not stress how bad i wanted to see genocidal timeskip Norman
The ending to the second season was fucking atrocious hahaha I just wish season 2 was as good as what people say about the manga, really disappointing as someone who hasn't read it at all.
as a manga reader I remember being so confused with ppl shit talking about the ending cause I was like "it's good tho wtf do yall mean ??????" until I watched the anime and like yeah these are definitely different stories
The series inspired me to choose my course in college and seeing them absolutely destroy the second season hurt my soul. The first season still has my heart. It had so much effort and love put into it. I just pretend the story ended there to keep me sane
Yeah I think that's what most people do, it'd honestly be better to finish season one and just read the manga from that point on. Hope college is still good despite season 2 haha :)
If you care about manga spoilers don’t read this The “HELP” written obsessively on the wall was written by Yugo! When the demons devoured Yugo’s family and friends at Goldy Pond, a location that was a hunting ground for demons. He was driven insane, believing himself to be the only survivor, and became a shut in for 13 years, writing “MONSTER” and “help” obsessively on the walls when he first got home
@@ely5474 Actually, the implication's even worse when you consider that Yugo was about to commit suicide right before he was alerted to the children's arrival (which is the real reason he was holding that gun in his first appearance). I can't help thinking that the anime gives us a disturbing look into an alternate timeline where they arrived just a bit too late (well that, and a bunch of contrived BS that didn't exist in the manga's universe like a demon who happens to share Emma's name).
The manga introduce the demon world so much better and is so good at putting in place Normand's final plan. Which that Dude is so much more interesting in the manga with his older look and menacing, and influence on everything... 😭
I heard somewhere that the reason the second season was so rushed half way through was because they thought they would get approved for a movie that later got rejected which is when they started rushing things
TPNL was the first anime I had my mother watch, as she isn't really interested in animation, but I wanted to share how inticing even animated stories could be. She thoroughly enjoyed it, and was even excited when she heard there was a second season. I was so disappointed to tell her how poorly it was done and that she prolly shouldn't watch it so it wouldn't sour the first season. I hope TPNL gets an FMA Brotherhood one day, from the bits of the manga I've heard about, it deserves a proper adaption, no corners cut. I'm gonna have to give the manga a read one day lol
I just noticed through this vid that I actually didn't fully watch Season 2 but apparently stopped before they attacked the Demon Village.. like this season was so incredibly disappointing and boring that not only did I stop watching but I just forgot about not finishing it lmao
if you haven't i encourage you to start reading the manga where the first season ends. the goldy pond arc is crazy and i never see anyone acknowledge it
Watching s2 as it came out was an excercise in frustration for me and my friend. She read the manga, i hadn't, so she knew what was happening... or rather, not happening. Cant forget when 3 or so episodes into s2 we were given a recap episode of all of s1. Why?? Why did we need that? Talk about filler Also the ending where they just go to the normal world? Could you imagine being from the outside and meeting one of these kids who tell you that there's an underground demon world eating children? I'd be insane
S2 got so much hate that I went straight from season 1 to the manga. No regrets, damn good manga story. Based on this summary they cut out like two thirds of the story and made dumb changes to speed things up. The manga's finale was so fucking epic and it's entirely gone.
I did the same thing and am so happy I did. It was so good and the artwork was insane. Everytime the queen was on a panel I just looked at her because her character design is the best I’ve seen ever
I remember reading the manga every new chapter until it ended. I was SO excited for the anime so I could share it with my boyfriend who is anime only. He loved season 1 and we both couldn't wait for season 2. Season 2 killed me. It made me go back to manga only or anime only. I couldn't live through that again. My boyfriend doesn't understand and I can't explain it to him cause there's so much that went wrong.
I watched the entirety of season 1 in one night. Every single episode I kept saying was going to be the last one, and at the end of every episode, I HAD to see the next. I never ended up watching season 2 after all the reviews from the same people who sold me on watching the show in the first place
I highly recommend reading the manga, I read right after I watched the first season for the first time. It was THAT good, so I got curious with the manga. Loved it, so ofc I thought this anime would have more than two seasons bc of it. Then season two came… and that was it… the disappointment on my face lasted the entire season. Norman wasn’t even supposed to be revealed alive until way later if I remember correctly. I was mad when they revealed him so soon. And they skipped over a lot of great arcs that I think you would love to see. You should definitely read the manga 👌🏽✨✨
Also, towards the ending of the manga is disappointing too (forgot to mention) but most the questions you had about this anime in season two is answered in the manga.
This video was seriously such high quality, when I saw that it wasnt made by a HUGE creator, I was seriously super suprised. Great video, super entertaining!!!
Bro when i first started watching this vid, i thought u had like 1m subs because of how good your story telling is. When i looked at you subs, i saw only 2.46k subs.You are probably the most underrated youtuber ive ever seen. Keep up the work bro you will be famous soon
The Promised Neverland was one of those anime that had me in a chokehold just from the first season alone, it urged me to read the manga and to get excited for what’s to come. AND BOY WAS I EXCITED. I was especially excited with the built up arc following their escape out the forest because THAT is what made me buy all 20 volumes, literally making it my first ever complete manga collection. So you best believe how utterly DEVASTATED I was with the direction that season 2 took. Felt like a knife to my heart and a shove deeper when they had the audacity to lay evidence of what could have been the greatest animated arc on top of what already was considered a masterpiece to most. (What I’m referring to is the rotten cookies and broken tea cup found in one of the rooms of the bunker.) So yeah season 2 is dead to me and while I understand that character voices/animations would be hard to fund considering just how many characters get introduced, I still would have loved to see an arc as amazing as Goldy Pond be animated. (Leuvis my KING)
I feel like I'm generally more ok with the second season than most people but this is still a very valid analysis/comparison of the seasons and why the second one is so disliked by most-- Great video!!:)
Thanks man! At the end of the day people will like different things whether they're bad to others or not, just like how people love Horimiya, but I think it's just mid as fuck. So if you enjoyed the second season I really can't blame ya, I can understand why ya would. Cheers again mate!
Honestly I feel like season 2’s premise could’ve been about Phil, the kid they left behind. Because he’s the only one who had the plan of escape passed down to him. Obviously, he’d be aged up. We could’ve had a more in depth look at the demons by seeing how Phil infiltrates and tries to take down the organisation from within. And the way he interacts with other children, either trying to convince them to his cause or standing against one of the mothers by himself. We could still have that psychological warfare, whilst building on the concept and leaving room for development of the world. With Emma’s escape left ambiguous, Phil could almost idolise the idea of what’s beyond the wall, or write letters that will Emma will never receive. Or he could be paranoid about demons coming to take him away, having nightmares about the children taken away that he could do nothing to save. Either way, I haven’t watched season two so I could be talking nonsense. Or, we could’ve had a new character, say a friend of Phil’s who gets “adopted” and then is given the choice to become a mother. We could then have a subplot of the training mothers have to go through, and the struggle to stay in favour with the hierarchy. We could have a closer look at the guilt some mothers feel for sending away the children they once lived as, seeing them less as monsters beside the demons, and more as victims of the system they’re stuck in. Becoming a mother is just a plight to survive, like the rest of them. Although, I feel like season 1’s ending serves the anime well. It works, because of the buildup before the escape. The relief we feel as an audience from them leaving that situation is a reward within itself, because of the sacrifice Norman made and the hardship they went through for all those young children. Everything before the final episode is building to that moment. That’s why we don’t need to see what’s beyond the wall.
@@bazdaddy420the manga wasn’t terrible, but what pisses me off is that the next arc of the manga was pretty much considered better than the first season. The manga had way too much world building that they didn’t have enough time to build up, but it’s also been a while since I read the manga
@@UnIronicWry If they made more episodes and actually included all of the manga's arcs it would've been one of the best sequels in any anime, shit just turned out horse shit tho
This is reminding me that I need to finish the manga. While I’ve heard the later parts of the manga apparently has its flaws…but it’s apparently still leagues better than how the 2nd season did it. So far I’m really liking a certain character introduced in the Goldy Pond arc. My wild guess on why season 2 turned out this way; the studio higher-ups really insisted that the show would end on season 2 for some reason, and this was the best the show crew could do with those circumstances. Hoping this series gets a FMA: Brotherhood style remake, and maybe even fix some of the flaws later chapters apparently have.
Yeah a lot of people in the comments have said the same about the manga, and it'd be pretty sick if they remade it like how they did with FMA I didn't think about that.
On the contrary, I would advise you not to read the manga, let the manga remain as good for you as it was in the escape arc, don’t be even more disappointed
@@Nikoleg4444 Nah, I still wanna read it. I’ve heard the manga’s later chapters has its problems and all, but I’d rather have that than whatever season 2 was.
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 TPN's manga definitely isn't perfect and the later chapters and ending could have been a LOT better, but it's still a really great story when compared to S2! It's funny -- back then nearly everyone was hoping for S2 to "fix" many of the problems the manga had. Looks like we'll have to appreciate the original rendition of the beautiful story we got.
To be fair to the adaptation, the manga also took a nosedive after the kids staged their great escape. I signed up for the tense, distrustful atmosphere and constant mind games and high stakes of that first arc (which the first season of the anime adapted quite well), but once the kids got outside the walls ...even the manga kinda turned into just another shounen adventure story, except they're looking for a way to get to the human world instead of looking for the One Piece. It shed basically everything I'd found attractive about it initially. That said, it seems like the second season of the anime managed to make everything even worse in ways I couldn't even have anticipated.
I haven't read the manga either but there's a good video essay by Lowart here on youtube reviewing the entire thing, and if what he said was true then the anime following the manga to a t still wouldn't have fixed it. Apparently the manga also fell off significantly after the first arc, it lost most of its nuance and all the problems the characters faced were solved way too easily. It's probably still way better than what the anime did though. Go watch that essay its great.
I even regretted a little that the first arc was so good that I gaslighted myself to watch the entire manga, hoping every chapter that it would get better, and only in the last arc I realized that it wouldn’t get better. After which I just started reading to just see the end and oh God how it pissed me off, it was just a summary of all the things I didn’t like in the arcs after the escape. All problems were solved either by Emma saying that it was wrong, or with the help of completely rewritten characters, or simply with the help of things that appeared out of nowhere that solve complex issues, as if there was no problem at all.
I actually have a theory about how the kids are born in this :3 So similar to the handmaid’s tale, my theory is that one of the roles in the training centers in the farms is men who’re js breeders. It’s based off of loose evidence, but it makes sense to me bc how else would these kids exist ?? Basically, when watching the anime, I noticed Phil kinda looked like Don. Dominic (a random side kid) and Rossi (that random ass kid who was lost with don during the military break in at b06-32) kinda look like Norman. Lannion and Alicia look similar as well. Carol looks a bit like Emma. Connie slightly looks like Anna. Ofc this is anime, so I’m literally js going off of skin, hair, and eye color, but it’s smth I noticed. (Edit: I pulled up the list of characters on the wiki and Connie and Anna have a similar facial expression/features so this kinda proves my theory more)
honestly I was a huge fan of TPN like a year ago because that’s around when I discovered the manga (I still am a fan but just less so) and I was absolutely HOOKED. the plot, the arcs, the characters, the ending, I absolutely adored all of it. I was a bit sad as well because it was like 2022 at the time and most of the active online discussion was either just not there or out of my reach, aside from the occasional video, so naturally i was overjoyed when I discovered an anime! i loved the first season and immediately went on to binge the second, and was horrified. they got rid of entire characters, an entire arc (which was one of my favorites; the bright brutality of goldy pond was and is still beautiful to me), and changed up the story so much that I didn’t even really recognize it at some points. (yugo is one of my favorite characters, so I was already very disappointed.) and THEN. they did the slideshow ending, which just was the final nail in the coffin. (the only upside to the entire thing was that I got to see Norman. that’s it. that’s all there is to it.) i never touched, looked, or acknowledged the existence of season 2 ever again. anyways, point being: I love TPN (and also yugo + norman) and season 2 has never and will never exist, in my mind! thank you for the video, it was absolutely stellar and made so, SO many points that i agree with, even if I didn’t recognize that until they were brought up. it’s been a while since I revisited TPN, so I’m gonna go relive the pain again and reread the manga and rewatch the anime, thanks again! :) TLDR if you can’t be bothered to read all that: amazing video, bad anime, great points, and I will never forgive OR forget what they did to yugo or norman.
I remember this unfolding in real time. I remember the series that doesn't exist getting shittier every week. I remember the transition from hope to cope to despair to trainwreck. It's unlikely we'll ever get a proper series 2 or more, just an endless negative space where all potential for continiation of the show goes to die, leaving us with nothing but a punching bag and a big fat asterisk on an otherwise goated first series. I'm here for the catharsis.
this is probably one of my favorite videos on youtube! great job dissecting both seasons (especially season 2 lol 😹).. cant wait to see the next anime you will touch on, keep up the good work 🔥
A big reason the first season was so great was because the kids' intelligence never made them just seem like tiny adults, which is HUGELY difficult to do because we tie development so closely with knowledge. They would still play, cry, want comfort, etc because at the end of the day they're still 11 years old. None of the children (that we saw) were immediately ready to leap into action when told the truth. Phil's very realistic sobbing while clinging onto emma's lap was one of the stand out moments of the show to me, it never lets you forget how young they actually are.
I feel that the manga rush a lot on the end beside of unpopular opinion they made the kid have a romantic subplot the Emma and Norman( already forget they names because i was mad about the manga )Norman tell that he love Emma and i am not big on romance but for the amount of times they say he love emma that why he follow her i hope they adress it on when they find each other again and then nothing they forget and that fine but that was a sign of what thing will be on the end it was very excited and interesting until in the end spoiler . Emma try to do a promise i think she exchange herself her memories and what she remember from her friends but ask for them to be send off to another world our world and for me that was fair they made a big deal out of it and everyone cry and stuff but then like a couple of pages after they find Emma she remember everything and happy ending that with a lot of thing that get fix by the power of friendship i guess like Norman being infected with a illness that will kill him is just like Emma say no dude you are ok the point is that the manga has a tone all the way trough dark , depressing and cold Emma being kill or forgotten for the kid to be free is a fair price they sacrifice someone they love for freedom but no i dont know why they made the whole point of having her being use like a bargain coin to then say no dude here this one is free that take a lot of what the manga push if you are gonna be dark and show blood and people getting kill take Emma away for good it sound like a good price to pay but no if that is to cruel then dont make the whole ending around it to then trow it out the window . Sorry by my bad english i read the manga before the anime was out and the autor i thing she or he i dont remember has a big gap of time she stop for the manga but i think it was sick of keep them and was already doing another manga or other project i maybe dont remember correctly that was a long time ago but i remember that i was very mad that a very well good story was rush that why i dont get surprisethe anime suck after the first season.
Unironically frustrating how they can take such a nice premise and then sully it. Like, wtf... this happens with so many anime and manga that it's just to the point of ridiculousness. I'm just hoping that my favorite manga series (Berserk) doesn't fall to the same fate. It really feels like a bait and switch given how it's so perfectly done in the first season. Like, it could've been one of those shows where everybody is like "Oh yeah, that anime? Yeah, it's peak, iconic, and there will possibly never be anything quite like it." But nope, they just ruin it. Horrid. Vile. I actually hate how so many franchises just self-destruct like this due to either incompetence, greed, or both.
Man experiencing the fan reception of both seasons as they released was certainly something. The hype around season 1 was crazy and everyone was waiting for season 2. People were pretty hyped. And then the first episode came out. After hearing everyone talk about it I just never got around to watching it. Kind of glad I didn't tbh
Season 1 is SO FUCKING GOOD, that enhanced every SHIT in season 2 into BIGGER SHIT The main part of the disappointment for me, is that we rarely seen any anime getting a re-animate within 50 years
This anime was one of the very few i picked up and read after the anime because I was just so curious as to what was going to happen! I read an absolutely amazing goldy pond arc and was so hyped for it to be out. The day I sat there yo watch season 2 for that big moment, when they open the door and Yugo is there, only to have them open it to nothing, no one at all. I still remember how heartbroken I felt
Great video! I appreciate the new tpn content and your analysis and criticisms were well made. If you want to enjoy the series even more or increase your hate for the 2nd season, I would definitely recommend reading the manga. It has its ups and downs, but is infinitely better than S2.
I luckily, heard the poor reviews for Season 2 before I started it. Im perfectly fine leaving off as the kids escaped and had a happy ending. I still recommend this show to everyone, because S1 by itself is one of my favorite stories, but I tell people to stop after S1. After watching this analysis about S2, I think I made the right call. Good video btw!
I can see where you're coming from, and now that you mention it it is a little off-putting, although I don't think their intent was to be racist I think it was just an accident. But yeah there is a fair amount of unjust racist portrayals of people in anime so I know what you mean.
@@bazdaddy420 lol do you really think it matters whether it's "intentional" or not? Case in point is that the portrayal is ass and they should have (and could have if they at least tried) known better
40:10 if you read the manga then you would know that the reveal that Norman was alive is extremely rushed and just not well executed (also the best part of the manga the goldy pond ark was completely removed)
the way i didnt even realise that youre a relatively small channel with the editing being so good. so entertaining watched all the way through and subbed!
It's incredible. I genuinely expected this channel to have at least 80k+ subscribers, but 1440 is just baffling to me. You're doing a great job at editing and script writing, keep going dude :)
all the important info; why was there "help" on the wall, who is grandma?, how do the demons keep their power by having human farms? they were all explained in the manga, and for whatever reason omitted in the anime, if they didn't want to show Yugo they should've just skipped the "help" room
I remember first seeing this during covid. Was such a good watch. Always on my toes. I heard from my friend that the anime wasn’t good but the read was good. To me the story ended when they escaped. I’m I my gonna watch the vid. Thank you
Cheers legends for the support on the video, it's pretty crazy how much traction it's getting. Means a lot :)
it's a pretty good video afterall
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Awesome recap, editing and coverage of one of the best and worst manga adaptations ever! Thank you so much for this video!!
The ratio💀
I beg you, WE NEED A TORADORA NUTSHELL PART 2! Part 1 was a masterpiece (keep up with the good content and you've definitly earned my subscription)
the way they botched the promised neverland will forever be one of the biggest Ls the anime industry has ever taken
They had the opportunity to make an incredible second season :(
@@bazdaddy420 honestly with how long the manga is i think it would need be at least demon slayer anime length
@@frankiesteinsbbg it should've been like that but instead it was all squished into 11 episodes with heaps of material left out, which is disappointing as a non-manga reader
7 walls could have been amazing .
Golden pondy could even go into anime history if it was animated .
@@bazdaddy420 The anime didn't really rewrite anything, the only thing it did was shorten it, all the stupid events were also in the manga and in the cut material there was no explanation for those stupid events. And Emma is the worst character in the manga. There are no stakes in the manga, whatever suits Emma goes. Emma was Mary Sue.
season 2 actually doesn't exist! who else is still waiting for TPN s2?
edit: thought we all understood that my comment is sarcastic 😭 yes ive watched the very disappointing season 2 and yes ive read the amazing manga
We can only dream for another one 🥲
Does anyone know when s2 will be released?
What about s3!
@@aydengarcia9073 I wish they would release S3 already,but at this point some time has passed,so I think they will remake everything from the start
There is no war in ba sing se
i think the funniest thing about tpn season 2 not having yugo is that apparently there was a tiktok account that posted yugo every day until he appeared in season 2, and once season 2 came out and he wasn't in it, the account changed its icon to a clown emoji and deleted itself a day later lol
Dude must've been devastated hahaha, but honestly I wish he was in the second season especially since I haven't read the manga
Honestly I wish the person would have just continued as if s2 wasn't made and as though we were still waiting for it
😂😂😂😂😂
@@SpecialInterestShow I wish they edited him in episode shots pretending he exists and just continue deluding themselves
@@GreySeashell-j3m lol you're right that's even better
It’s so weird that they decided to butcher the second season the way they did. If they had just… continued adapting the manga, then they could’ve had a long running, beloved, and likely successful series for years, but instead they decided to remove various plot points, change the story, cut it off early, and then shove the rest of the plot into a lame montage that just alludes to the plot points we never got to see. It’s honestly baffling how the company behind the show went so far out of the way to NOT do the thing that could have kept the series successful for several seasons
It's as if they just wanted to piss people off haha, just baffling to say the least
Nah the manga still sucked. It was still somewhat okay till the goldy pond arc but not as good as the first arc but god the manga ending sucked ass. Emma's "the demons dindu nuffin don't kill them" got memed hard.
@@toiletpaper3394 explain, how was the ending bad. Was it similar to attack on titan where people had mixed feelings.
@@rickfastly2671 not aot level bad but certainly didn't live up to expectations. The manga clearly wrote itself in a corner because the only reason why the demon realm didn't get glassed by nukes is because of the demon god.
@@toiletpaper3394 wtf why is their a demon god
i will never forgive them for getting rid of yugo and all the plot points that came from him 😭😭😭😭
I know as someone who hasn't read the manga he seemed like a pretty cool character that would've been sick in the anime, we can only dream though :(
Basically they skipped the most fan-beloved arc out of the whole thing (post-escape, anyway). Like, the manga fans were PISSED and I've read some of the manga and gotta agree. S2 was a rushed mess @@bazdaddy420
@@bazdaddy420 In the manga, he also appears only at the very end.
@@Nikoleg4444 why u spreading misinfo lmao
@@Nikoleg4444lmaoooo this is a bold face lie
in the manga when they meet Yugo in the bunker he has this cracked cup and some old cookies with him and in the anime they actually showed the stupid cup and moldy cookies on the table. like... was that middle finger to my face really necessary.. GOD
FR!!! i remember ppl were in denial saying maybe he gonna comeback the next episode T^T, and the studio animated the the first episodes almost faithfully but then they announced after ep4 (I think) that they gonna make original ending 🙃
@@eam2739 every time he didnt show up i was like "its olay its fine maybe he'll come in later" and then he didnt 💔💔💔
I heard someone suggest he was that random man that gave the old demon that ate him the pen addition but honestly if thats true then id rather he just. Not exist at all 😭 disservice to my man fr
YESSS i was trembling by the time they went down the bunker, expecting yugo to be there sitting on his chair- but no, they had to nerfed him. I was watching with my sister and we kept on hoping that he would be there, maybe as a surprise or anything really, since he's one of the reasons the plot drives forward but no. imo it started to be apparent that it's not worth watching when the animators showed that he wasn't there.
So it’s not just me? They didn’t not follow the manga at all
So glad I never watched S2. TPNL is still good in my mind because of it.
Lucky man, keep it that way it ain't worth it
@@bazdaddy420 I can tell- I had an opportunity to watch it at a friends house, I think I watched the first episode of season 2 and never went out of my way to watch any more. It's a shame, compared to the first season.
Lol same
@@BestSoapzthe first episode is literally shot for shot the manga material though. Seems like a lot just switched up on the series once mystery was gone. Takes a bit before it skips material that to be fair people would say is boring too since it doesn’t further myster and is more character stuff people seem to say they want but complain it’s boring. Overall I don’t hate on the creators they had little choice. Animating the rest was just time consuming and not big pay off as even manga people (this happens for all series) shonen wise started hating it. It’s like if given the choice Naruto would have a nice clean last arc vs war to end fast and make people happier since so many think pain arc is peak and rest is bad. (Not me just online discourse though online people say thousand year blood war would fail and people love it and they think AOT is trash and it’s more popular than game of thrones pirate wise. So internet. Ps. Showed this arc of promise never land in a cut up shorter movie like version 1:20 h each season to a friend years apart and they thought season 2 as someone not into anime was fine. Though they would hate it. I quickly showed them what was supposed to happen and they just shrugged. 🤷 and still liked anime. 😅
read the manga it’s way better
I still wonder what was the thought process behind just,skipping Goldy Pond. Not even skipping it,straight up removing it from the anime's canon. It is truly baffling that they thought that was a wise decision. And sure,anime can go original sometimes,FMA'03 did it and its original story is pretty good. But this... This is just pure dogshit
Probably one of the dumbest decisions an anime studio could ever make, I don't know what they were thinking
What I heard from the internet basically hearsay one of the theories for all the skipping/rushing of season 2 is because the manga sales near the end wasn't doing good. So, the anime studio decided f this just rush it so they can get some easy cash.
@@bazdaddy420yeah I think fans would have honestly just have had Goldy Pond and then ending the show on a cliffhanger to encourage people to read the manga to find out the end of the story, yknow?
I'd rather have an unfinished anime than... Whatever this was
@@SpecialInterestShow Literally anything would've been better than the anime hahaha
Maybe they will do S3 with Goldy Pond
19:46 this is really useless information but Norman telling Emma and ray that there’s a cliff behind the wall is one of my favorite scenes
Yeah I know I just said it to kind of explain the layout of the area, and it is a great scene
58:57 This for me was one of the worst parts.
Our hero meeting the literal GOD of that world, and they show a 3 second screenshot of the encounter and call it a day…
Gotta be one of the worst endings in any anime ever, shit was just disappointing
They might as well added "Don't You Forget about Me ,by Simple Minds" and epilogue paragraphs for all the characters, with how corny the slide show was.
56:02 did anyone realise that the blade is so clean
@@amazinglife_hkyeah I believe they remove blood from certain scenes on purpose as they would have to add a higher level of parental ratings if they do add it. They do that a lot nowadays
@@littlecoffeebean6744 like breeding and eating literal children is more kid-friendly than blood.......
Man, that fanmade season 2 sure sucks. Hope we'll get a true season 2 later.
Its just like that fanmade pacific rim film
and that ripoff megamind series
@@gomshom67iscool23 and all those disney remakes
To be honest I don't even want a season 2 at all. The fact that they had already accomplish their main goal and escape is just enough to resolve the story
thats a good way of putting it, season 1 does wrap up in a really satisfying way. it works as a self-contained story.
@@lemonyvee after seeing the reviews for season 2, this is exactly what i did. It works well on its own. they escaped and thats all I cared about. S1 by itself makes this anime top tier. I recommend it to people who are new to anime but tell them to stop at S1 cause it works well
did you even watch the show? the goal was to escape and find a way to survive out there
@@c0nstanc393they escaped, no?
@@wheresgab.chimps level brain
I religiously followed the manga when it came out and fell off of the second season after I realized Mister had been written out, so I didn't realize just how much they skipped. Listening to your summary, I got upset all over again because so many of the problems in the writing were problems the anime created, especially with the big argument with Norman.
In the manga, we saw Lamda 742 and how deformed they made people, we saw that the portal in Goldy Pond didn't work, we saw Goldy Pond. So when Norman is giving his side, we understand him. He's seen the worst of the worst of both demons and humanity. Why would he want to go to the human world when the human world put them in this situation and continues to allow it? And why would he want to save the demons when the demons did this to them? But we also understand Emma saying that the problem isn't with the people, it's with the system. She's seen good demons like Sonju and Mujika and bad demons like Nolan and the demons of Goldy Pond. She's seen the human strike squad murder several of her friends before her very eyes. She's seen that there's good and bad demons and humans, but all of the bad guys seem to be working for the establishment, so maybe if they just get rid of that, everything will be okay.
SPOILERS:
And yet, everyone agrees with Norman, so Emma does too, externally, at least. And things seem great, everyone's reunited and happy and things are finally starting to look up. Except no they aren't, because of course they aren't. And it's only after seeing Norman make moves behind everyone's back and seeing the kids with Emma finally re-acclimate to being safe, that the conversation about Mujika comes up. And Norman once again makes a good point, even if the demons don't have to eat humans any more, they still may want to. The royals wanted to, even though they haven't had to for centuries; Sonju wanted to- though Emma doesn't know that. Unless the threat is eliminated, they'll never be safe. Their family will never be safe. Even if they make it to the human world, if they get rejected and thrown back into the demon world, they'll still be in danger.
And that's when Emma brings up going to the Seven Walls. If there's no mortal solution, then they'll go to a god. They'll probably never even make it, much less manage to fix things, which is why Norman sets up the time limit.
Both sides are honestly being narrow-sighted. Norman just assumes that killing the demons will fix everything, as if the Ratri clan doesn't show that there are plenty of humans working with the demons, humans that will be none too happy to have their collaborators wiped out. And Emma is just hoping against all hope for a happy ending that will literally take an act of god to have a chance of happening. And yet, we've seen the paths that put them here, and why they can't stray from it.
It's a great setup that's honestly not carried through the best. I had hoped that the anime would be a chance for the author to fix the mistakes they had made in the original ending, not add more of them.
The way the manga explains it (at least from your explanation) just seems WAY better than the anime, like there seems to be more reason for both Norman and Emma to have their beliefs in the manga. Thanks a lot for commenting this, gave me a lot of insight. Cheers bro
@bazdaddy420 the manga actually let's us see the horrors of both and allows Emma to experience way more than her anime counterpart. One issue with the manga was a time skip. Which could have been an anime original season. It would have allowed the anime to fix various pacing issues, flesh out various characters more, and show more of the demon world. But instead the anime went nah we are gonna do this even faster and worse. Part of the reason the Mangas pacing picked up was cause it was set to be canceled. So they had to rush the final arc. The anime did not need to do that
@@roxan_1314 yeah it seems like the anime just had so many opportunities to fix what the manga did wrong (from what I've heard about it), but we all know how that turned out
The ending is just disgusting, at the very end Emma has to sacrifice at least something in the entire manga, her connection with her family. After which the author, as always, kills any bet in the anime, reuniting them despite the fact that it was the PRICE, after which there are no consequences and so on throughout the manga
@Nikoleg4444 the price was her memories NOT that she couldn't see her family again. The ending is supposed to be bitter sweet because Emma even if she's ruinited with everyone she used to love she doesn't know shit about what they suffered through and needs to rebuild ALL her relationships from scratch. It's like if a comma patient woke up and needed to reconnect to everyone who was close to them it's sad because those memories were lost but sweet because you can make new ones
I will never be able to forgive them for ruining the reunion between Ray, Emma, and Normal. The way it was done in the manga managed to bring a tear to my eye and not being able to experience that in an animated form will always make me feel as though I was robbed. :(
normal😭
@@sparkIeshart normal 😌
Spoil it for me, how does it happen in the manga
@@ak-_ray got the sharingan and byakugan and six eyes and got the inverted spear of heaven, while emma got inumakis ct and he got a 5 leaf clover grimoire and got infinity and destroyed everyone besides normal, and normal got kanekis kagune and and it protected him and it was revealed he got a heavenly restriction and he was part demon, part demigod, part human, part god, and he learned to use kaioken up to 10.
normal
When me and my sister watched TPN, it was one of the first animes my sister actually got invested in, anyways when season 2 came out, the moment she saw Norman on screen she felt satisfied with the story and didn’t want to see anything else after that, knowing that she would just be disappointed 💀
Hahaha fair enough I can't blame her for doing that!
I watched the anime with my family too, except my sister was a manga reader and she rage-quitted the moment Norman appeared.
@@kulazu so we have two very different sisters who reacted the same way for different reasons I see 🫡
My headcanon is that the kids never survived after escaping the ranch.
Everything that happens afterwards is a hallucination - an impromptu DnD session played by the kids while they either die of dehydration or get picked off by demons.
Too much is simultaneosly off and convenient.
Dont spoil s3 😢
Is this a headcanon for TPN overall or just the anime? Because the manga is wayyyy better and is much more detailed
@@moonskyre4221 I never read the manga. Regardless, I still think their chances of survival were rediculously low.
They had no survival skills outside of a pantry and they just happened to be found by demons that believed in free range hunting?
If this happened in a humans-to-chickens, analogy, that means the free-rangers were living suspiciously close to a high-security government-owned property without getting arrested.
If there were enough "chickens" to support them, that implies that there should be way more "adult" chickens out in the woods, or way more breakouts are taking place than the series implies.
How many chickens do you see running around in a forest?
The only reason we have wild pigeons and horses is because they were abandoned.
@@moonskyre4221 Never read the manga.
I still feel their chances are low.
There should be more adult humans in the woods if there are enough "chickens" to support free-range hunters. That, or there are far more successful escapes than the series implies.
@@CRanunculus Well you are right to an extent but I will spoil a lil bit of the beginning of the manga. The kids are helped by a friendly demon and that’s how they survive out in the woods even if their chances were super low. They’re taught how to kill demons and how to hunt.
I’d always just heard that season 2 was horrible. I never watched the show, and read the manga recently. The manga was great the whole way through, lots of questions about what it means to eat, to live, to hunt, the justification that can be found for terrible actions and how appealing, even seemingly reasonable, they can be. Characters learn to rely on and understand others, creating hope even in the darkest times. Hearing about how season 2 went, it was almost like it switched to an entirely different manga that wasn’t nearly as tense, emotional, and thought provokinv
Yeah I thought as much, everywhere I looked people seemed to have the same opinion. Fucken sucks that it didn't pan out the same way in the anime :( although I might give the manga a read eventually
Oh really? I might have to read the manga then.
It feels like we read different mangas, because manga, like anime, all it does is raise various questions, and then abandon these questions after Emma said that it’s so wrong, after which all the dissatisfied characters completely rewrite their character and ideals. The same Sonju and Lucas, who were for the idea of hunting people outside of farms, and then simply appearing at the very end fighting with the queen, so that Emma could take all the people away and remove the need for demons to eat people. Without even talking about how conveniently they resolved the issue of demons needing to eat people, simply by saying that there is “magical royal blood” that, without a single side effect, simply solves all this
@@Nikoleg4444yeah I don’t get the revisionist history. People do realize you can like things and know they have problems. It’s all still an entertainment ride. Seems like the series had the issue I find with many people who hate shone and call any new gen shonen generic trope trash in that a good hook will be great but it’s not gonna go long form. The long lasting shows have hooks throught piece meal. The big hook makes people tune in but a too good one and that’s all people focus on and when they don’t get it they complain. One piece hooks with something you know is far away and in meantime the author can do whatever as all islands can be anything. Death not is great hook but the story had to move fast and keep building till it runs out of steam. Hence why people think the middle sorta end after ___ is less good. Promise never land animated would be a lot of trouble filling in issues for no big pay off. I get why they said nah. Bleach you say yes and fill in tybw there’s something there and the manga creator is refreshed and loves their world and can fill in holes. Guy who made one piece could fill you with his ideas for weeks. Promise never land is great fun just that it isn’t supposed to be what people though. It’s a short thriller lengthened by blown up success. It’s the query book idea that every agent says yes on while the agent really needs to let say a one piece or jjk cook as they have lasting appeal but not the episode 1 super hook. IMO execution matters more than originality anyway and people too soon only stick with hook shows. Anyway I still like promise never land and didn’t hate the season once I just accepted it’s another timeline or what if and condensed spark notes. Not like the manga was perfect even if it sorta was better I’d rather not drag through 60 eps to get to the same spot for years.
First of all. WDYM season 2? There's no season 2. Where'd you hear such blasphemous things? Season 2 doesn't exist yet.
Yeah my bad I just hallucinated the second season in the video shit sorry man
I was actively making memes about it in the trenches on tumblr when we were watching this first unfold. With every new episode we’d say “alright, bunkerdad must be just around the corner *this time!”* all while looking like the ‘this is fine’ dog. We laughed to hide the pain.
No literally it was so funny in hindsight how far in denial we as a fandom were during the early eps of s2 😭
When I started watching it, I was in tears, I was in denial. I never read the manga, but I was absolutely devastated and confused, The only good thing that came out was seeing Isabella hold a gun/rifle/sniper (idk), I was so upset that I momentarily went back into my 💔🐺⛓️😭🥀🖤 darkness edgelord phase. Needless to say, it affected me.
While Season 2 of the anime was definitely screwed over more, the manga was also screwed by Shonen Jump. There were several threads and mysteries that were randomly wrapped up at the very last second as the story suddenly ended. From what I can tell, the author had *at least* one major arc left, but Shonen Jump randomly popped up and gave them like five chapters to wrap everything up. While the overall story is brilliant and beautiful, the ending is without a doubt rushed and unsatisfying.
So when rumors of Season 2 making changes to the source material came up, people were excited because we thought perhaps they would take steps to rectify the rushed ending and expand on things the author hadn't thought of earlier on. A lot of us tried really hard to keep drinking the kool aid that maybe it'd work out in the end. I remember mothers basement making a video that maybe they were setting up Isabella v. Gracefield Kids Round 2. And every single episode they proved us more and more wrong. But that friggin slideshow to end the show? Wow that hurt.
What do you think the last arc would’ve been? I was so fuckin pissed when emma lost her memories like no way the author wanted it to end like that
@@chloe1078 I thought it would involve the demon and human worlds coming together and the chaos exploding in everyone's faces, and that Sonju would be one of the final villains, given how excited he was at the prospect of eating "wild" humans again. I also thought that what The One asked of Emma was something more gruesome and cruel, like eating her brain, and that the Gracefield kids would have to completely rewrite the world order to save her. And I had hoped that Isabella's role would have been expanded. I wanted to see more of her as Grandma and how she played off her demon masters.
Omg I remember how people were like “season two could fix all the issues with the manga”. Ahahaha we were so innocent, we actually thought they would try at all
@@NunyaBiznessss I'm surprised Sonju wasn't amongst those crooked band of hunters in Goldy Pond given how he was, it almost seems like that's what the manga was foreshadowing and would've been pretty interesting to see Emmas reaction to it. I'd reckon it'd be emotions of confusion, hurt, feelings of betrayal, and it'd serve as a good way to make her actually question and confront the illogical basis behind her ideals of not wanting to hurt demons when confronted by Norman about it later. Sonju being a part of Goldy Pond could've easily served as a gateway to giving Emma character development and would've fixed the whole problem with her becoming the "merry sue" character whose always right, too bad it didn't turn out like that though.
While there was certainly some loss in the psychological aspects of tpn after the first arc there was also a lot of good in the other three arcs even if the ending was rather rushed but taking all of that and mashing it into one season was a catastrophe.
Yeah fair enough I can't really disagree with that
your editing gets me nearly every joke and its still tame enough to follow, def subbing. i was here before you blew up
Thanks a lot man! I've been trying a different approach lately with editing so it means a lot to hear that :)
That immersive joke at 24:31 caught me so off guard, gave me a good laugh fr
56:01 That is a clean, dry knife. Where is the blood?
I know someone pointed that out before, I can’t believe I didn’t notice that shit when editing
The whole help room is to introduce another character a more mature character who is slowly going insane in that bunker and he lead to another arc but that is just cut and the ending is different too like... haiz
I realised that after I finished editing the video, but either way it was a stupid decision to remove so much of the manga's original content in the anime
Did they just get bored and decide they didn't want do the full story and just finish it all in a damn slide show??
Really?? Wtf.
lmfao
yeah even as someone that didn read the comic..S1 was so deep and nuissanced..and like you said..the entire monster faction gets overthrown in a slide show..aint they suppose to be strong?
i like to think that the anime is an alternate universe where yuugo and luca never get separated and their family survives and they all go to the human world happily ;-;
If only they were in the anime :(
i will choose to believe this 😭
Bro even my MOM noticed the drop in writing. I definitely recommend the manga to anyone who wants to continue the series. You can start at volume 6 when they escape and you'll *immediately* see the difference
The moment Yugo didn't appear, i stopped watching. I'm happier for it.
Yugo looked like such a sick character I wish he was in the anime :(
There is no Promised Neverland S02 in Ba Sing Se.
It is known.
I remember reading the manga immediately after i watched s1 cause i was too excited to wait for a s2. Even if the manga has some issues around the end i still enjoyed it.
I tried to be hopeful for s2 because they did skip a bit but when i saw they took out Yuugo ep 3 i knew it was over. And i knew it was so fucking over when they rushed the 2 year timeskip, and then ended the anime in a slideshow😮💨
I wanted to kms.
I will not stress how bad i wanted to see genocidal timeskip Norman
The ending to the second season was fucking atrocious hahaha I just wish season 2 was as good as what people say about the manga, really disappointing as someone who hasn't read it at all.
as a manga reader I remember being so confused with ppl shit talking about the ending cause I was like "it's good tho wtf do yall mean ??????" until I watched the anime and like yeah these are definitely different stories
Yeah even I can tell as a non-manga reader that the manga is miles better than the anime (respect for DDLC profile pic as well)
Was the ending good? The ending in the manga was the final nail in this coffin. Which showed that there are no bets
My guy the ending in the manga was great, bittersweet though it was. The hell are you talking about?
The series inspired me to choose my course in college and seeing them absolutely destroy the second season hurt my soul. The first season still has my heart. It had so much effort and love put into it. I just pretend the story ended there to keep me sane
Yeah I think that's what most people do, it'd honestly be better to finish season one and just read the manga from that point on. Hope college is still good despite season 2 haha :)
Just out of curiosity, whats ur course in college?
@@irenechen4547 Early childhood education. I wanna take care of the kids while learning child psychology c:
If you care about manga spoilers don’t read this
The “HELP” written obsessively on the wall was written by Yugo! When the demons devoured Yugo’s family and friends at Goldy Pond, a location that was a hunting ground for demons. He was driven insane, believing himself to be the only survivor, and became a shut in for 13 years, writing “MONSTER” and “help” obsessively on the walls when he first got home
Yeah I know I was told all of that right after I uploaded the video, wish I knew before so I could've added it in :( cheers either way tho!
@@bazdaddy420 it actually upsets me so much because they implied he was there and then never added him :( it was like being spat on almost.
@@ely5474 It just made things more confusing as well, they may as well just left the 'help' part out
@@ely5474 Actually, the implication's even worse when you consider that Yugo was about to commit suicide right before he was alerted to the children's arrival (which is the real reason he was holding that gun in his first appearance). I can't help thinking that the anime gives us a disturbing look into an alternate timeline where they arrived just a bit too late (well that, and a bunch of contrived BS that didn't exist in the manga's universe like a demon who happens to share Emma's name).
The manga introduce the demon world so much better and is so good at putting in place Normand's final plan. Which that Dude is so much more interesting in the manga with his older look and menacing, and influence on everything... 😭
I heard somewhere that the reason the second season was so rushed half way through was because they thought they would get approved for a movie that later got rejected which is when they started rushing things
TPNL was the first anime I had my mother watch, as she isn't really interested in animation, but I wanted to share how inticing even animated stories could be. She thoroughly enjoyed it, and was even excited when she heard there was a second season. I was so disappointed to tell her how poorly it was done and that she prolly shouldn't watch it so it wouldn't sour the first season.
I hope TPNL gets an FMA Brotherhood one day, from the bits of the manga I've heard about, it deserves a proper adaption, no corners cut. I'm gonna have to give the manga a read one day lol
I just noticed through this vid that I actually didn't fully watch Season 2 but apparently stopped before they attacked the Demon Village.. like this season was so incredibly disappointing and boring that not only did I stop watching but I just forgot about not finishing it lmao
Hahaha was probably better like that anyway, the whole season was just dog shit
if you haven't i encourage you to start reading the manga where the first season ends. the goldy pond arc is crazy and i never see anyone acknowledge it
22:06 i like how Norman just stands there and becomes his identity V skin
He's in identity V?
@@dyablo_ciao thats why he was becoming a idv model
Watching s2 as it came out was an excercise in frustration for me and my friend. She read the manga, i hadn't, so she knew what was happening... or rather, not happening. Cant forget when 3 or so episodes into s2 we were given a recap episode of all of s1. Why?? Why did we need that? Talk about filler
Also the ending where they just go to the normal world? Could you imagine being from the outside and meeting one of these kids who tell you that there's an underground demon world eating children? I'd be insane
Norman was right.
I can't believe they cut so much of the manga out of the anime.
the fact that the whole goldy pondd arc was just erased like HUH!?
S2 got so much hate that I went straight from season 1 to the manga. No regrets, damn good manga story. Based on this summary they cut out like two thirds of the story and made dumb changes to speed things up. The manga's finale was so fucking epic and it's entirely gone.
I did the same thing and am so happy I did. It was so good and the artwork was insane. Everytime the queen was on a panel I just looked at her because her character design is the best I’ve seen ever
I remember reading the manga every new chapter until it ended. I was SO excited for the anime so I could share it with my boyfriend who is anime only. He loved season 1 and we both couldn't wait for season 2. Season 2 killed me. It made me go back to manga only or anime only. I couldn't live through that again. My boyfriend doesn't understand and I can't explain it to him cause there's so much that went wrong.
I watched the entirety of season 1 in one night. Every single episode I kept saying was going to be the last one, and at the end of every episode, I HAD to see the next.
I never ended up watching season 2 after all the reviews from the same people who sold me on watching the show in the first place
Yeah don't bother with the second season, even if you don't read the manga season one's conclusion is still more fitting than season two's
I highly recommend reading the manga, I read right after I watched the first season for the first time. It was THAT good, so I got curious with the manga. Loved it, so ofc I thought this anime would have more than two seasons bc of it. Then season two came… and that was it… the disappointment on my face lasted the entire season. Norman wasn’t even supposed to be revealed alive until way later if I remember correctly. I was mad when they revealed him so soon. And they skipped over a lot of great arcs that I think you would love to see. You should definitely read the manga 👌🏽✨✨
Also, towards the ending of the manga is disappointing too (forgot to mention) but most the questions you had about this anime in season two is answered in the manga.
Norman used an Eren yeager, FINALLY ☺️
I do not understand but yes
This video was seriously such high quality, when I saw that it wasnt made by a HUGE creator, I was seriously super suprised. Great video, super entertaining!!!
Cheers legend that's sick as to hear, means a lot to me :)
The manga isn’t perfect but good lord the second season is atrocious.
Bro when i first started watching this vid, i thought u had like 1m subs because of how good your story telling is. When i looked at you subs, i saw only 2.46k subs.You are probably the most underrated youtuber ive ever seen. Keep up the work bro you will be famous soon
Hahaha cheers my man just having fun making these videos :) happy to see others are enjoying it as well
Ah yes, TPN, my favorite 12 episode anime. Really hope they make a season 2 since Goldy Pond was my favorite arc.
The Promised Neverland was one of those anime that had me in a chokehold just from the first season alone, it urged me to read the manga and to get excited for what’s to come. AND BOY WAS I EXCITED. I was especially excited with the built up arc following their escape out the forest because THAT is what made me buy all 20 volumes, literally making it my first ever complete manga collection. So you best believe how utterly DEVASTATED I was with the direction that season 2 took. Felt like a knife to my heart and a shove deeper when they had the audacity to lay evidence of what could have been the greatest animated arc on top of what already was considered a masterpiece to most. (What I’m referring to is the rotten cookies and broken tea cup found in one of the rooms of the bunker.)
So yeah season 2 is dead to me and while I understand that character voices/animations would be hard to fund considering just how many characters get introduced, I still would have loved to see an arc as amazing as Goldy Pond be animated. (Leuvis my KING)
this video is fantastic i didn't realize this channel has
Hahaha cheers man will do :) appreciate it!
I feel like I'm generally more ok with the second season than most people but this is still a very valid analysis/comparison of the seasons and why the second one is so disliked by most--
Great video!!:)
Thanks man! At the end of the day people will like different things whether they're bad to others or not, just like how people love Horimiya, but I think it's just mid as fuck. So if you enjoyed the second season I really can't blame ya, I can understand why ya would. Cheers again mate!
@@bazdaddy420 you switched up with the choice of words in that comment XD
If you wanted to know the instrument that Leslie is playing is called a Lute.
Isn't that a mandolin?
Honestly I feel like season 2’s premise could’ve been about Phil, the kid they left behind. Because he’s the only one who had the plan of escape passed down to him. Obviously, he’d be aged up. We could’ve had a more in depth look at the demons by seeing how Phil infiltrates and tries to take down the organisation from within. And the way he interacts with other children, either trying to convince them to his cause or standing against one of the mothers by himself. We could still have that psychological warfare, whilst building on the concept and leaving room for development of the world. With Emma’s escape left ambiguous, Phil could almost idolise the idea of what’s beyond the wall, or write letters that will Emma will never receive. Or he could be paranoid about demons coming to take him away, having nightmares about the children taken away that he could do nothing to save. Either way, I haven’t watched season two so I could be talking nonsense.
Or, we could’ve had a new character, say a friend of Phil’s who gets “adopted” and then is given the choice to become a mother. We could then have a subplot of the training mothers have to go through, and the struggle to stay in favour with the hierarchy. We could have a closer look at the guilt some mothers feel for sending away the children they once lived as, seeing them less as monsters beside the demons, and more as victims of the system they’re stuck in. Becoming a mother is just a plight to survive, like the rest of them.
Although, I feel like season 1’s ending serves the anime well. It works, because of the buildup before the escape. The relief we feel as an audience from them leaving that situation is a reward within itself, because of the sacrifice Norman made and the hardship they went through for all those young children. Everything before the final episode is building to that moment. That’s why we don’t need to see what’s beyond the wall.
57:20 oh my gosh that was such a jumpscare i was NOT expecting him to look like that 😭😭😭
Yo wtf bro 😭😭
Just overall a great video now that I'm done it... Thank you!
Cheers!
Dude, what a wonderfully made and well written video. You earned my subbed! I can not wait for more
Cheers for that mate I put a lot of work into this so it means a lot. Thanks legend!
sadly there was nothing you could do to save the show cuz even the monga got bad
I heard that it got bad but not as bad as season 2 of the anime, anything better than the second season is good haha
@@bazdaddy420the manga wasn’t terrible, but what pisses me off is that the next arc of the manga was pretty much considered better than the first season. The manga had way too much world building that they didn’t have enough time to build up, but it’s also been a while since I read the manga
@@UnIronicWry If they made more episodes and actually included all of the manga's arcs it would've been one of the best sequels in any anime, shit just turned out horse shit tho
This is reminding me that I need to finish the manga. While I’ve heard the later parts of the manga apparently has its flaws…but it’s apparently still leagues better than how the 2nd season did it. So far I’m really liking a certain character introduced in the Goldy Pond arc.
My wild guess on why season 2 turned out this way; the studio higher-ups really insisted that the show would end on season 2 for some reason, and this was the best the show crew could do with those circumstances.
Hoping this series gets a FMA: Brotherhood style remake, and maybe even fix some of the flaws later chapters apparently have.
Yeah a lot of people in the comments have said the same about the manga, and it'd be pretty sick if they remade it like how they did with FMA I didn't think about that.
On the contrary, I would advise you not to read the manga, let the manga remain as good for you as it was in the escape arc, don’t be even more disappointed
@@Nikoleg4444 Nah, I still wanna read it. I’ve heard the manga’s later chapters has its problems and all, but I’d rather have that than whatever season 2 was.
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 TPN's manga definitely isn't perfect and the later chapters and ending could have been a LOT better, but it's still a really great story when compared to S2!
It's funny -- back then nearly everyone was hoping for S2 to "fix" many of the problems the manga had. Looks like we'll have to appreciate the original rendition of the beautiful story we got.
Man, the promised never land is such a good anime, too bad they never made a season 2 tho😔
I wonder if despite the fact that the first season was well-reviewed, it didn’t make enough money to greenlight more than 2 seasons? ☹️
Nah it was just that the higher ups for the anime studio wanted to cut most of the manga’s content
@@purpledshadow Do you know why? It's a pretty fucken stupid thing to do honestly
To be fair to the adaptation, the manga also took a nosedive after the kids staged their great escape. I signed up for the tense, distrustful atmosphere and constant mind games and high stakes of that first arc (which the first season of the anime adapted quite well), but once the kids got outside the walls ...even the manga kinda turned into just another shounen adventure story, except they're looking for a way to get to the human world instead of looking for the One Piece. It shed basically everything I'd found attractive about it initially.
That said, it seems like the second season of the anime managed to make everything even worse in ways I couldn't even have anticipated.
I haven't read the manga either but there's a good video essay by Lowart here on youtube reviewing the entire thing, and if what he said was true then the anime following the manga to a t still wouldn't have fixed it. Apparently the manga also fell off significantly after the first arc, it lost most of its nuance and all the problems the characters faced were solved way too easily. It's probably still way better than what the anime did though. Go watch that essay its great.
I’ve seen the video a coupla times on my recommended feed, it looks good I’m just lazy. I’ll give it a go now though!
I even regretted a little that the first arc was so good that I gaslighted myself to watch the entire manga, hoping every chapter that it would get better, and only in the last arc I realized that it wouldn’t get better. After which I just started reading to just see the end and oh God how it pissed me off, it was just a summary of all the things I didn’t like in the arcs after the escape. All problems were solved either by Emma saying that it was wrong, or with the help of completely rewritten characters, or simply with the help of things that appeared out of nowhere that solve complex issues, as if there was no problem at all.
I actually have a theory about how the kids are born in this :3
So similar to the handmaid’s tale, my theory is that one of the roles in the training centers in the farms is men who’re js breeders. It’s based off of loose evidence, but it makes sense to me bc how else would these kids exist ??
Basically, when watching the anime, I noticed Phil kinda looked like Don. Dominic (a random side kid) and Rossi (that random ass kid who was lost with don during the military break in at b06-32) kinda look like Norman. Lannion and Alicia look similar as well. Carol looks a bit like Emma. Connie slightly looks like Anna.
Ofc this is anime, so I’m literally js going off of skin, hair, and eye color, but it’s smth I noticed.
(Edit: I pulled up the list of characters on the wiki and Connie and Anna have a similar facial expression/features so this kinda proves my theory more)
If this comment gets 2 likes, I'll rewatch Season 1.
I gotchu just need one more man
@@bazdaddy420 bet
honestly I was a huge fan of TPN like a year ago because that’s around when I discovered the manga (I still am a fan but just less so) and I was absolutely HOOKED. the plot, the arcs, the characters, the ending, I absolutely adored all of it. I was a bit sad as well because it was like 2022 at the time and most of the active online discussion was either just not there or out of my reach, aside from the occasional video, so naturally i was overjoyed when I discovered an anime! i loved the first season and immediately went on to binge the second, and was horrified. they got rid of entire characters, an entire arc (which was one of my favorites; the bright brutality of goldy pond was and is still beautiful to me), and changed up the story so much that I didn’t even really recognize it at some points. (yugo is one of my favorite characters, so I was already very disappointed.) and THEN. they did the slideshow ending, which just was the final nail in the coffin. (the only upside to the entire thing was that I got to see Norman. that’s it. that’s all there is to it.) i never touched, looked, or acknowledged the existence of season 2 ever again. anyways, point being: I love TPN (and also yugo + norman) and season 2 has never and will never exist, in my mind!
thank you for the video, it was absolutely stellar and made so, SO many points that i agree with, even if I didn’t recognize that until they were brought up. it’s been a while since I revisited TPN, so I’m gonna go relive the pain again and reread the manga and rewatch the anime, thanks again! :)
TLDR if you can’t be bothered to read all that: amazing video, bad anime, great points, and I will never forgive OR forget what they did to yugo or norman.
S1: The Promised Neverland
S2: The Promised Powerpoint
I remember this unfolding in real time. I remember the series that doesn't exist getting shittier every week. I remember the transition from hope to cope to despair to trainwreck. It's unlikely we'll ever get a proper series 2 or more, just an endless negative space where all potential for continiation of the show goes to die, leaving us with nothing but a punching bag and a big fat asterisk on an otherwise goated first series.
I'm here for the catharsis.
this is probably one of my favorite videos on youtube! great job dissecting both seasons (especially season 2 lol 😹).. cant wait to see the next anime you will touch on, keep up the good work 🔥
Cheers thanks a lot for the support! I'll do my best :)
A big reason the first season was so great was because the kids' intelligence never made them just seem like tiny adults, which is HUGELY difficult to do because we tie development so closely with knowledge. They would still play, cry, want comfort, etc because at the end of the day they're still 11 years old. None of the children (that we saw) were immediately ready to leap into action when told the truth. Phil's very realistic sobbing while clinging onto emma's lap was one of the stand out moments of the show to me, it never lets you forget how young they actually are.
Bro you actually have peak humour, you’ve gotta be the most underrated TH-camr I’ve ever come across. This video was done so well.
Haha thanks man i'm really happy with how it turned out, glad to hear others enjoy it as well :)
I'm so glad this got recommended to me, awesome video! Hope there's more Longform videos in the future❤
Thanks man, the long videos take a while to do so when I have a bit more free time that's when I'll focus on them more than shorter ones :)
So glad that I skipped over S2. I do want to get my hands on that light novel that's about Sister Krone's time in Mom School, though.
I feel that the manga rush a lot on the end beside of unpopular opinion they made the kid have a romantic subplot the Emma and Norman( already forget they names because i was mad about the manga )Norman tell that he love Emma and i am not big on romance but for the amount of times they say he love emma that why he follow her i hope they adress it on when they find each other again and then nothing they forget and that fine but that was a sign of what thing will be on the end it was very excited and interesting until in the end spoiler .
Emma try to do a promise i think she exchange herself her memories and what she remember from her friends but ask for them to be send off to another world our world and for me that was fair they made a big deal out of it and everyone cry and stuff but then like a couple of pages after they find Emma she remember everything and happy ending that with a lot of thing that get fix by the power of friendship i guess like Norman being infected with a illness that will kill him is just like Emma say no dude you are ok the point is that the manga has a tone all the way trough dark , depressing and cold Emma being kill or forgotten for the kid to be free is a fair price they sacrifice someone they love for freedom but no i dont know why they made the whole point of having her being use like a bargain coin to then say no dude here this one is free that take a lot of what the manga push if you are gonna be dark and show blood and people getting kill take Emma away for good it sound like a good price to pay but no if that is to cruel then dont make the whole ending around it to then trow it out the window .
Sorry by my bad english i read the manga before the anime was out and the autor i thing she or he i dont remember has a big gap of time she stop for the manga but i think it was sick of keep them and was already doing another manga or other project i maybe dont remember correctly that was a long time ago but i remember that i was very mad that a very well good story was rush that why i dont get surprisethe anime suck after the first season.
Good thing I forgot half of season 2
Unironically frustrating how they can take such a nice premise and then sully it. Like, wtf... this happens with so many anime and manga that it's just to the point of ridiculousness. I'm just hoping that my favorite manga series (Berserk) doesn't fall to the same fate. It really feels like a bait and switch given how it's so perfectly done in the first season. Like, it could've been one of those shows where everybody is like "Oh yeah, that anime? Yeah, it's peak, iconic, and there will possibly never be anything quite like it." But nope, they just ruin it. Horrid. Vile. I actually hate how so many franchises just self-destruct like this due to either incompetence, greed, or both.
omg you deserve so much hype i was able to sit and watch this whole video because i really like ur commentary and the quality of the video!!
Thank you so much dude makes me really happy to hear that! Just want people to enjoy these vids as much as I do making them :) cheers!
Man experiencing the fan reception of both seasons as they released was certainly something. The hype around season 1 was crazy and everyone was waiting for season 2. People were pretty hyped. And then the first episode came out. After hearing everyone talk about it I just never got around to watching it. Kind of glad I didn't tbh
Season 1 is SO FUCKING GOOD, that enhanced every SHIT in season 2 into BIGGER SHIT
The main part of the disappointment for me, is that we rarely seen any anime getting a re-animate within 50 years
This anime was one of the very few i picked up and read after the anime because I was just so curious as to what was going to happen!
I read an absolutely amazing goldy pond arc and was so hyped for it to be out. The day I sat there yo watch season 2 for that big moment, when they open the door and Yugo is there, only to have them open it to nothing, no one at all.
I still remember how heartbroken I felt
Just found ur channel love the video! I subbed keep up the good work
Cheers mate! Will do :)
Great video! I appreciate the new tpn content and your analysis and criticisms were well made. If you want to enjoy the series even more or increase your hate for the 2nd season, I would definitely recommend reading the manga. It has its ups and downs, but is infinitely better than S2.
1:09 had to sub IMMEDIATELY just for that spooky jumpscare!! but fr great video!!!
Hahaha thanks a whole bunch makes my day hearing that!
I luckily, heard the poor reviews for Season 2 before I started it. Im perfectly fine leaving off as the kids escaped and had a happy ending. I still recommend this show to everyone, because S1 by itself is one of my favorite stories, but I tell people to stop after S1. After watching this analysis about S2, I think I made the right call. Good video btw!
Bruh the racist and weird portrayal of Sister Krone made me hate tpn... sad how normalized racism is in animes🤢
I can see where you're coming from, and now that you mention it it is a little off-putting, although I don't think their intent was to be racist I think it was just an accident. But yeah there is a fair amount of unjust racist portrayals of people in anime so I know what you mean.
@@bazdaddy420 lol do you really think it matters whether it's "intentional" or not? Case in point is that the portrayal is ass and they should have (and could have if they at least tried) known better
How was her portrayal racist?
Sad how some people trying to see racism in everything 🤢
Sad how some people trying to see rасism in everything 🤢
Am i the only one who wants a season 2 remake? Like bro, they really fvcked it up.
40:10 if you read the manga then you would know that the reveal that Norman was alive is extremely rushed and just not well executed (also the best part of the manga the goldy pond ark was completely removed)
the way i didnt even realise that youre a relatively small channel with the editing being so good. so entertaining watched all the way through and subbed!
Thanks man! Really leaves me speechless hearing shit like this it means a lot bro :)
@@bazdaddy420 you’re gonna go far man ! and imma have been here from the start keep doing what ur doing and stay true to urself
Thank you for this! Means a lot... Best of luck
bro you and your editing is funny as hell keep up the good work.
37:04 “this kid is already dead. He just doesn’t know it yet” 🎅🎅 🐡🥕
Underrated as fuck comment
It's incredible. I genuinely expected this channel to have at least 80k+ subscribers, but 1440 is just baffling to me. You're doing a great job at editing and script writing, keep going dude :)
I completely forgot they realsed the seconed season and that i watched. it was just so unmemorialble
all the important info; why was there "help" on the wall, who is grandma?, how do the demons keep their power by having human farms?
they were all explained in the manga, and for whatever reason omitted in the anime, if they didn't want to show Yugo they should've just skipped the "help" room
I pretend I do not see it. TPN is my favorite anime and I'm pulling the "lalalala I can't hear you"
I remember first seeing this during covid. Was such a good watch. Always on my toes. I heard from my friend that the anime wasn’t good but the read was good. To me the story ended when they escaped. I’m I my gonna watch the vid. Thank you
Fun fact, they left out the greatest arc in the manga for the promised never land which just makes this mistake worse.