Yup, along with making Chef Boyardee Pizzas, we'd watch Mutual Of Omaha's Wild Kingdom with Marlin Perkins & Jim Fowler every Sunday evening back in the 70's 👍 😎
4 year carnivore here. I came from the diet you recommend, yet I was pre diabetic, had gum disease, IBS, arthritis, dangerously high BP and more. Since eliminating grains, fruit (apart from wild berries) and veggies, and eating considerably more saturated fat, I have cured all my issues, and in the best health (backed up with blood tests) and with the best body of my life. Sorry gents, your profession is based on keeping people drugged and sick, your advice is worthless.
is this satire?? These are the kind of doctors that made me unhealthy and I left them a long time ago. grass fed beef has changed my health and life dramatically.
Everyone has a right to their opinions, but might want to do some REAL research!! I'm 71 and thanks to carnivore I am better than ever! Lost weight to 123, have overcome fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, type 2 diabetes, 5 spinal fusions, high blood pressure, plus anxiety and depression!! My doctor is rapidly lowering or stopping a lot of my meds!! Like metphormin, metoprolol, gabapentin, mobic. I had to go on disability at age 50, but now feel better than I have in years!! Off my walker, and only occasionally using my cane!! Don't knock this way of eating and the doctors who are helping SO MANY PEOPLE, until you give it a try!! What are you afraid of?? 😂🤗🙏🙏
It appears these ‘doctors’ have had ZERO nutritional training whatsoever… Telling my N=1 story to help get the message out there: During the extreme lockdown here in the Philippines, January 2021 I was obese type 2 with pre-diabetes and high blood pressure. I was suffering from metabolic syndrome. I understood the comorbidity I had as a 58 year old would greatly affect me if I contracted the Rona. I had to lose fat, reverse hypertension, reverse my NAFLD and reduce my HbA1c. Sitting in my armchair at the beginning of lockdown I saw that the keto/ketovore/carnivore diet claimed it could ‘cure’ my ailments. I watched a bunch of videos and tried to make sense of the linked papers supporting the claims. End result was that it simply made a lot of sense to me. 8 months later, whilst still sitting in my armchair (most of the time). I had lost the 30kg/66lbs of fat that was required to get me down to a ‘normal’ BMI, I GREATLY improved my blood pressure to the point it raised my wife’s eyebrows, she’s a First Responder. My blood sugar was well back in to the ‘normal’ range and I vastly reduced inflammation. I also reversed IBS that had controlled my life for 40 years (I lost jobs because of it), got rid of decades long debilitating heartburn, my Testosterone went up drastically and I stopped snoring … my wife is happy 🤓 I was ‘foggy’ & forgetful, possible early stage MCI, I sometimes also slurred my words and forgot what I was talking about mid sentence, this has completely reversed! Undiagnosed but recognised by my family I got out of a bad case of lockdown depression. A few months ago I further decided to cut out most vegetables from my meat heavy Keto WOE, only adding on occasion a little onion, garlic, green peppers and tomato for some flavour… always salting to taste. Improvements are continuing with a pace with better mental health, blood markers, skin condition etc. Simply eating nutrient dense meat, HEAVY in animal fat, eggs, seafood, salmon … single ingredient real food is all it took … Whilst cutting out processed food, sugar/carbohydrates and seed/‘vegetable’ oils and most dairy. We THRIVE when eating our evolved, species specific Proper Human Diet along with some intermittent fasting to mimic the way our ancestors survived. I’m sure there are thousands upon thousands of people that have similar anecdotal stories to tell … Please tell them … get the message out there!
I've been doing carnivore for 3 yrs now and I've lost 175lbs without exercise and all my acne, joint pain, and IBS is all gone and I have never felt better in my life and I haven't found this way of eating to be restricting at all
3 years, 👍🏼 Bravo! And no exercise, time to start to build or keep muscle, unless you are young but it is still recommended. Also 20 min walks in the sunlight. Getting that heart pumping faster, will help to make the heart muscle stronger and healthier. Don’t forget chicken and pork and avocados for potassium and stay hydrated ( also other supplements that keep you hydrated) , red meat lacks enough potassium and we need 4700 mg per day and I doubt 10% of the total population meets that requirement.
Carnivores do not require 4700 mg of potassium. That is way too much for us. That amount will cause hyperkalemia in the absence of excess carbohydrates.
@@TalkingWithDocs maybe you should heed these testimonials more, doctor, like my own and this dude’s. They tell a difference story, doctor, despite your scientific facts!
Carnivore since 2020, reversed diverticulitis, reversed high blood pressure, lost 40 pounds, allergies have all disappeared. Not one medical doctor could help except recommend drugs.... (humbly speaking) I look and feel amazing until I eat plant/grain products. Never take nutritional advice from doctors...
I had the dearest relative who was overweight. He was active until his mid 80s and died over 90 yrs. old. Some weight issues are genetic (hypothyroid). Yes, being obese is bad, but he ate healthfully and lived a good life. You are what you eat.
The two are not the only choices. You can be thin AND omnivorous. People need to just don’t eat too much all the time. As simple as that. Well except for those 1% lacking satiety gene or something ofc.
@@jisyang8781 My dearest relative did not overeat. He had a thyroid issue and speaking as someone of average (not fat nor thin), but with a thyroid issue myself, let me just say that most people with thyroid work out more consistently, eat sensibly than most people. Most people without thyroid issues neglect to realize it is a real thing and is often undiagnosed. People with thyroid (whether hypo or hyper) take endocrinologist ordered medication, do blood work and lab tests and frequently have to readjust levels over their lifetime. And sometimes people with hypothyroid eat virtually nothing and work out and gain just as people with hyperthyroid eat like crazy and might lose to dangerous levels. And we wish that our thyroid gland was like the average individual who could just choose fad diets and lose (or gain). After years of being both hypo and hyper (thanks to the wrong dosage of medication which is also not fun), I do not mess with any silly fad diet and just eat healthfully as my mother did and in moderation. Also FYI tragic loss (which I recently had) or even overstimulation can kick the thyroid from low to high. Contrary to what the average person may think, neither is great as you realize you are not in control of how your body responds. To just be of average weight after working out as a paid dancer and singer for years is a relief. Frankly, I believe people should listen to their doctors and their bodies and not the latest fad that runs down the pike.
46 years old.. Two months in carnivore… no knees inflammation… I can run again… down 30 pounds… energy all day long… wearing small size clothes I had in storage for 15 years… ribeye steak FTW..
Been on carnivore for almost two years. I have lost 150 lbs on it and have maintained that weight loss. I have never felt so amazing in all my life. I think I’ll have a ribeye now. 😀
Isn't this a stupid ass video. Been carnivore 7 months and feel best in my life. Where are their controlled studys saying what doctors are prescribing is good for long term..they are typical idiot doctors. Good luck on your journey.
Red flags If a doctor says “balanced” “eat fiber” “eat veggies and fruit and no meat no saturated fat” or “follow food pyramid” “rainbow on your plate” “lean chicken breast” “vegan vegetarian” “you need pills” “your prescription” “high cholesterol isn’t good” then you need a new doctor! You are cruising for illnesses, diseases, and cancers and surgeries in the future! They want that as it makes them money and secures their job in life!
Hey no one said don't eat meat. Sorry if we offended you by saying eat fruits and vegetables in addition to meat. We feel we owe it to the viewers to share this as they have many anti cancer, anti aging and other health benefits that meat simply doesn't have. Again did not mean to offend and are certainly not trying to convert the world to veganism. If you can share why this community is so defensive it would really be helpful as so many of the comments have been rude, condescending and attacking in nature. We hope you have a great day. We are just trying to help people make educated choices.
A balanced diet is great…unless you are seriously ill on your “balanced” diet as I was with autoimmune disease….carnivore SAVED MY LIFE…..when doctors failed
You will never convince any of us that have had multiple chronic health problems, requiring multiple medications, that resolved on keto/carnivore diet.
@@BigBoss-kq8mb there is such a thing as ketocarnivore. You eat lots of meat but you can have non starchy vegetable unlike the strictly carnivore than only eats meat, eggs and cheese.
These guys got so much wrong, amd parroted the unscientific mainstream narrative and ridiculous studies that have way to many confounding factors and biases. For instance the said, without backing up, that you’re missing out in so many nutrients. Without even stating which ones or any literature, except vit C which we all know by now it plentiful in meat and organs. Most all vegetables (now a days) are not healthy
I did carnivore for 30 days a years ago and I felt and looked amazing, no other way of eating made me feel so good and I do suffer from autoimmune conditions. I've recently begun my transition back to carnivore , so if the same result come about I'm sticking with this lifestyle. I really don't want to feel like crap anymore, that is not a way to live.
@@rongarris8574 most people? Sometimes some people was one out of 100 and it becomes most people. That is how it works. The transition from Keto to carnivore is easier, it may take over a month, sometimes several months to know for sure if it’s good for each person.
I’ve been on it three months went from depressed hopeless and weak to happy strong and confident. I haven’t felt so good since I was in 11th grade and I’m 34 now. The benefits I’ve gained are too many to list but I’ll admit I said the same thing as you when I heard about only meat. But I trust the way I feel and what the mirror shows me over my own preconceived notions.
I ended an 8 month long digestive problem- all the doctor visits, tests, prescriptions and travel resulted zero. 3-1/2 days - meat and eggs and water- fixed it. I was so grateful to find help.
@@TalkingWithDocsyou two need to say, “that’s awesome! We will look into carnivore more and review Dr. Berry, Dr. Baker, and Dr. Chaffee’s videos to keep an open mind about this human ancestral way of eating. Our medical training must have misinformed us in med school! We will go study up on this topic!”
Been on a carnivore diet 3 years and feel great and all my stomach issues have disappeared, theres no nutrients your body can't get as long as you consume organ meats on occasions
Remember this video is a paid advertisement and sponsored by big pharma and the makers of the food pyramid! Their efforts have greatly improved the lives of all humans globally😊
How long it took your body to adjust to the carnivore diet, i think I have one problem I can’t give up coffe and I don’t think the coffe loves me back 🥹🥹
Many people like Doctor Berry have done the PHD (proper human diet) for several years and have great blood work! So, it seems to be very sustainable. You are correct we can get all the vitamins and minerals our bodies need from eating all meat when you include the liver and heart.When we are not running off pure carbs and sugar, our body requires far less vitamins like vitamin C! Not to mention... for carb and sugar eaters, their bodies are unable to absorb Vitamin C as well, no matter how much chomping they do on vegetables and fruit.
Glad I’m watching this video after healing my body and regaining my six pack abs rather than before. I was ignorant enough then that you guys may have convinced me to stay weak and ignorant.
@@TalkingWithDocs i dont know why i should go back to carbs for now. im burning fat and i like it that way. but here and there i eat some. like once in a month... one meal with familly. thing is that i lost 30pounds and it stays there, i dont have any low energy. kinda stable. one meal a day in general.
Food research is funded by large companies. And they do not fund something that is not beneficial to their sales! Carnivore is against the sales of cereals, candies, energy drinks etc. etc. and, therefore, carnivore research is not funded unless the reserch can make carnivore look bad.
Why are so.... many people healed from chronic illness and autoimmune disease following the carnivore lifestyle 🤷♀️ Hundreds of testimonials. Maybe not for everyone but definitely for those who need it ❤🇦🇺
So the testimonials are for very short term due to the elimination of so many things. The concern is long term this is clearly not healthy. Obviously up to you or whoever else wants to eat this way but this diet will not age well. Guaranteed
@@ribeyemanster You can't with certainty but we do know from many studies that elevated cholesterol is not healthy in the long term. We also know that elevated animal based protein strongly stimulates IGF-1/leptin which is linked to cancer. We also know that animal based does not supply various plant phyto-nutrients and other anti cancer compounds. Cooking meat (which most people do) destroys the enzyme complement critical for proper digestion and creates a variety of toxic/cancer causing compounds. As well, with a lack of fiber the critical microbiome will suffer creating leaky gut which can promote autoimmune and immune dysfunction issues. Good studies need to be done between a junk food diet, raw/organic plant based and animal based to get a full picture but based on what we do know so far about large consumption of animal products I suspect this is not the way to go long term.
Interesting video, I can only speak from a personal point of view but the keto/carnivore lifestyle has been a game changer - totally off meds and not see you guys face to face for years.
6:46 Studies. There are *ZERO* randomized controlled interventional long term studies of *ANY* diet as regards long term health outcomes! They cannot be done! They would require test subjects to be in metabolic lock-down from birth to death under constant supervision. They are not ethical and would be far too expensive (not to mention you couldn't get subjects to agree to that). What we are left with are retrospective and prospective cohort studies which rely on food frequency questionnaires, are associative by their very nature, are muddied by numerous confounders, and the results are buried in the signal to noise ratio.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. We agree no trials. Too hard to run. But there is nothing on carnivore. Anyway the benefit comes from elimination of the crap from the SAD. Glad it works for some. Everyone will do what makes them happy. Thanks for watching.
I went Keto/Low Carb, sometimes Carnivore 5 years ago and lost 150lbs. My lipids are: Total Cholesterol = 169, Triglycerides = 42, HDL = 64, VLDL = 9, LDL = 96. I’m 62 years old and needed my congenitally defective Aortic Valve replaced last year, and thank God I lost 150lbs. I eat Whole Foods. I do not eat “Keto labeled” foods from the supermarket. I eat nothing processed. I even make my own Mayo from Avocado Oil. I only use Avocado Oil, Coconut Oil, & Olive Oil. I don’t have scurvy. I’ll eat cabbage, broccoli, green beans, and my blood sugar never goes above 130. I had a colonoscopy 9 months ago and I had 4 polyps removed, but all benign. I recovered just fine from OHS by eating Keto. I’m also unvaccinated and never caught Covid. I’m 62 years old, in the greatest shape of my life, and weigh 170lbs at 5’11”.
Hmm not sure what humans you are talking about. Maybe check the history books and see that humans have always been omnivores. Sorry. What schools are these people attending teaching this stuff?
Well, the bottom line is that for every 2 doctors like you two guys, you can find 10 more doctors online that will empatheticly declare that not only is Carnivore Diet safe but it is NECESSARY! Bottom line: everybody is an experiment of one. Find out what works best for you.
Hey whatever works for you. Yeah there are lots of doctors saying a lot of stuff on the internet. Careful what they are selling you that's all. Good luck.
@@TalkingWithDocs just so you know, I've lost weight both as a vegetarian and carnivore. I've kept the weight off. Carnivore a little easier at this point in life. I don't plan to stay on it long term. I'll probably switch to ketovore.
Q. How can you tell if your traditionally trained medical doctor has given you incorrect information about nutrition? A. They have opened their mouth and sound has come out.
Red flags If a doctor says “balanced” “eat fiber” “eat veggies and fruit and no meat no saturated fat” or “follow food pyramid” “rainbow on your plate” “lean chicken breast” “vegan vegetarian” “you need pills” “your prescription” “high cholesterol isn’t good” then you need a new doctor! You are cruising for illnesses, diseases, and cancers and surgeries in the future! They want that as it makes them money and secures their job in life!
Almost 4 years carnivorish. CKD from stage 3b to normal. HbA2c from 8.9 to 5.1. 198# to 143#. So many other things fixed I can't remember them all. Lots of myths in this video...
@@youthrevisitedagain 98% meat/fat/eggs. Occasionally some nuts or avocado. I'm not religious about it, but I don't eat foods that upset me. Ketovores eat more vegetables -- they give me trouble.
And one persons bloodwork doesn't make it healthy. Don't you wonder why there is no research about it? Just a bunch of talking heads selling books and supplements
@@TalkingWithDocsno I don't really wonder why no major pharmaceutical or food company has funded research for it yet. Even if they did they could just throw out the results right?
I've been on the carnivore diet for 3 months and Lost 30 pounds. I was taking 360 mg blood pressure pill every day down to 20 mg . My ankle stop hurting my knees stop hurting.
Well we could certainly debate the toxin argument in plants. That has been debunked with proper research. Plants have been shown to slow or even halt cancer growth where animals proteins have accelerated. Kind of like the milk argument that it's healthy when so many are lactose intolerant. No mammal drinks another mammals baby formula except humans. We suspect carnivores love their milk. At any rate everyone has to do what works for them. This diet is not for everyone and likely not for most.
Go speak to the carnivore community. Constipation is not an issue in 99% of people. You don't necessarily go daily, because you absorb more food (less waste) Also glucose and vitC use the same receptors. Without glucose in the body, the same receptors for vitamin C won’t have to fight off glucose from the bloodstream in order to nourish the rest of the body. You get small amounts of vitC in fresh meat and organs .. enough for the body to use. You don't see scurvy in modern carnivores (Sailors who got scurvy ate hardtack, grog and preserved meat )
Our ancestors had a lower median life span because of environmental dangers and the lack of modern medicine, not because they are too much fatty meats haha. Factor in how many children and mothers died during child birth or how many broke a leg or cut themselves and died. Think how many times you would have died wirhout modern medicine? Meanwhile you dont have to wear scrubs to look at the data we have. As plant matter consumption has gone up so has the rates of diabetes, cancer and heart diease. The average American has a diet that is over 70% plant based and they are sicker than ever. You also made the fallacy of assuming that because food was scarce our ancestors didn't eat optimally. You could as easyisly assume when food was scarce or they failed at a hunt they became foragers and ate plant matter out of necessity to survive. And given most people would naturally pick a steak over and handful of leafy veg it seems more likely to me. You said it yourself. You had to force your kids to eat veg cos they naturally dont want to. You put beef or chicken in front of a child and they will yum it up. Finally id say this idea of "balanced" is nonsense. They is nothing inherently good about a balanced diet, I believe it was a marketing slogan. You need to eat a species appropriate diet. A cow doesnt have a balanced diet. Over 84% of vegans quit. 90% of those cite catestrophic health failure. Meanwhile your comments section below is overflowing with peoole who have come off all meds and healed themselves on carnivore. Your balanced diet logic is "well you need to cut down on the stuff that healed you and add in a load of the stuff that makes almost everyone ill weak and sickly". Not logical Ah so much wrong with this video im going to end up writing an essay. Understanding of calories and CICO is false its also not the reason people lose weight on keto. statements about cholesterol are wildly wrong, youre not "making too much of it". Vitamin c statement is wrong. You require a very small amount and it is found in muscle meat. Never heard of a single genuine case of scurvy. Kelly Hogan been on carnivore 13 years l, there are people in the online community who have been on it over 40 years and no scury. It takes weeks to develop. Not a life time. Sat fat isnt linked to heart disease. There are a lot of weasel words in here. "May lead" or "could lead". Meaningless. Eating veg may lead to you looking like Dr Greger
Thanks so much for taking the time to leave your comments. We didn't mean to make anyone angry by suggesting eating fruits and vegetables. We aren't selling anything like so many of the TH-cam carnivores. We will respond to a couple things. We are in scrubs because we film before the OR. We are busy and this isn't our job. We don't do it for the money. We have no sponsors. We are only trying to help people. As for vitamin C there is some in muscle meat but unless you are eating it raw it typically would be broken down with the heat of cooking because it's water soluble. Organ meat is a better choice for that reason. Regardless of how inconvenient it is, decades of scientific research that is peer reviewed and published shows saturated fat tied to heart disease and cancer. What you eat is up to you. We are just trying to help people be healthy. No need to name call or try to shame us for that. All the best to you.
Oh and if you have data to prove any of your claims please forward as we are open minded and always trying to learn and expand our knowledge. Especially the 90 percent of vegans have "catastrophic" health consequences. We didn't tell anyone to be vegan. But plants have many anti cancer, anti aging and disease fighting properties that an all meat diet would prevent you from benefiting from. Looking forward to it. Thanks again for reaching out and sharing
@@TalkingWithDocs I can provide as much data as you did in the video. A lot of what a state were just counter statements. That's the point. Just throwing out words like "may do" or "could cause" isn't useful either way. But there are plenty of studies on cholesterol and sat fat now. There was another recently from RCSI. Plenty have come out of Australian academia recently if you care to research. Statins do not increase your life expectancy. Where are the wards of heart patients on carnivore diet? The vitamin c statement is a fact, meat does contain it. It's found in meat and we don't require very much, as a carnivore diet is high in hydroxyproline and hydroxylysine. It's also demonstrable that there isn't an epidemic of scurvy amongst the carnivore community . You made the claim that the carnivore diet causes it so the burden is on you to provide evidence, which again you didn't. The vegan stats come from the humane research council. Even so you're asking people to discount reality. I look online at vegan influencers and they almost all look Ill weak and aged and I'm not sure I've seen a vegan with healthy skin. I look at carnivore and they almost all look younger than their age, healthy and strong. Perhaps not scientific but if youre going to tell people to ignore all that observable evidence you need to come with some hard scientific facts, not "maybes" and "could bes". If you want more studies on the negative effects of plant based diet dr mason can provide. There have been zero controlled studies to show the benefit of a plant based diet...in fact it's impossible to do so, both for plant and meat based. I don't know if you two lads are nutritionists or your doctorate is in the field of nutrition but it does not sound like it. One thing in the scientific field is that it's incredibly focused and specialised . Once you wonder out of your field it is easy to make false assumptions and claims. A climatologist , for example, should not be making claims that pertain to meteorology .
Again thanks for sharing your thoughts. We appreciate your passion for your lifestyle choice. We did not intend to offend just wanted our viewers to know that there are still benefits to eating fruits and vegetables.
Age 60 female on HRT since Sept 22.... I'm down 35lbs since I started dirty carnivore Jan 23! I'm no longer prediabetic and my cholesterol is in the "normal" range for the first time in 20yrs. I say dirty carnivore because I don't hesitate to eat vegetables... Especially if I'm hankering for something. But day to day I mostly eat grass fed ribeye. I've had my vitamin levels checked and so far so good. I think the key is to test test test!! I'm blessed I can afford to do that. OH I feel great too! Zero aches and pains and energy is like I'm in my 20s again. All upper and lower digestive issues resolved....I hardly ever even fart!! 🤭 I'm thinking 6 more months of strick carnivore most days to adding veggies everyday. But again... Test test test!!❤
Carnivore diet is the best I never had constipation, when I was plant-based that's when I had digestion problems. And plants most certainly have anti-nutrients.
Changing my diet saved me from debilitating back pain, nerve pain, joint pain, muscle pain, digestive issues, raised blood pressure, 20kg over weight. It took around 8 months for all these problems to resolve. Since 2020 I've been completely pain free and never felt and looked healthier. I'm only eating fatty meats, seafood, eggs and dairy. Prior to that I was eating the mainstream version of a healthy diet (lots of veggies, fruit, whole grains, low fat, eating the rainbow etc) for decades and watching my health slowly decline. I recommend searching for this peer-reviewed scientific article, it shows how 2,029 people had amazing results on the carnivore diet it's called "Behavioral Characteristics and Self-Reported Health Status among 2029 Adults Consuming a “Carnivore Diet”".
Yes saw that. Self reported social media survey. Come on. If Pharma used "studies" like this what would you say then. Hey eat whatever you want. Just don't try to tell someone else it's healthy. All the best.
@nicolasgirard2808 the carnivore diet seems to have all the benefits of fasting and the longer you do it the better you feel, I'm amazed at how good I feel after 3.5 years of eating this way.
@nicolasgirard2808 for the first year if I ate off the diet my symptoms would return, especially hip joint pain, I seem to have healed and now I'd just not feel as good. I love the food I'm eating and feeling great so no desire to change.
Yeah you're right. Decades of research must be wrong but the wave of TH-camrs promoting carnivore is the right way to get healthy. As we said in the video the reason this works is because it gets rid of a lot of bad stuff from the standard American diet which is trash. Like sugar. Refined grains. And processed foods. Meat has never been shown to cure anything. It doesn't mean you can't eat it but it is not the panacea for healthy living. That is so obvious
What makes your medical degree and knowledge so much more informed than all the doctors, nutritionists, and health coaches that promote the Carnivore diet?... they are not making money, except for a few products they promote on their TH-cam sites, unlike the food industries, big pharma, the medical professions, and unreliable researchers that all make huge sums deceiving the public about nutrition.
Thanks for sharing your views. They are in fact making a lot of money. So is the meat industry who is promoting this. We are simply reporting that there is no evidence that this is a healthy way to eat. The elimination of sugar and refined carbs and processed food is certainly beneficial. You can eat whatever you want. We have nothing to gain or sell regardless of how you eat. But we do care about people's health. All the best
@@TalkingWithDocs They are reporting that there's no evidence that this is a healthy way to eat despite all the people that have been telling you they feel better and have gotten better from many aliments they shut out what they just don't wanna hear which is the evidence.
Notice how they say' we are just simple reporting that there is no evidence that it is a healthy way to eat' while the title of the video is 'the carnivore diet why you should NOT do it". And that they only bothered to present, poorly, the possible harms. and fail to mentions anything resembling a comprehensive account of the arguments for it. Seems disingenuous to me.
Malnutrition is not possible. All animal prduce contain everything we need. Ask me. I've lived this way for over three decades and I'm seventy-two now. I'm perfectly healthy and, (in case you don't know it,) I'm still alive.
Well, I've only been a carnivore for thirty-two years since my immunologist took me off all the other foods on the shelves and in the supermarket. It's the best thing that ever happened to me. So when you doctors learn about nutrition, come back.
Wow that's amazing. Someone should write you up in a journal if you have only are animal products and nothing else for 32 years. Everyone is different for sure.
@@TalkingWithDocs Well, does your claim that the lack of fiber may cause constipation on a carnivore diet, or that carnivore diets cause scurvy qualify as speculation? Because unless there is a RCT establishing those two statements then its theoretical speculation, correct? If those studies exist than I stand corrected.
A study by Ogilvie et al. (2022) found that vegetarians, vegans, and others who eschew meat "show a lower bone mineral density," and "vegans consistently have higher risk of fracture at multiple bone sites, especially at the hip." A study by Simeone et al. (2022) looking at infants between 4-18 months of age on a macrobiotic diet free of animal protein found a "significantly higher risk [...] of skin and muscle wasting in 30% of macrobiotic infants compared with 2% of the controls" as well as "a higher prevalence of children with inadequate growth [...] with insufficient energy and long-term nutrient intake, or classified as wasted, with severe malnutrition," observed in nearly 8% of vegetarian/vegan children compared to only 0.6% of omnivorous children. Perhaps equally shocking, it was found that "babies in the macrobiotic diet group reached independent walking on average 3 months later" than omnivorous diet babies (Dagnelie et al. 1994). After researching and analyzing multiple different studies, Simeone et al. (2022) quite definitively concludes: "...the case reports are all consistent in demonstrating severe neurological outcomes and growth deficits in children on a vegan diet, due to low vitamin B12 and vitamin D levels, with anemia, stunting, brain abnormalities and demyelination. The children with vitamin B12 deficiency all had psychomotor developmental deficits or neurological symptoms, some even anemia. In one case, in addition to psychomotor regression, four bone fractures were found due to nutritional rickets. The reason was prolonged breastfeeding from a vegetarian mother followed by a vegan diet for the infant after weaning. [...] in diets without meat, fish and meat products, the most critically deficient nutrient is vitamin B12, but deficiencies in calcium, iron, iodine, zinc, and selenium, essential amino acids, ω-3 LC-PUFAs (EPA and DHA) and vitamins (riboflavin, vitamin D) may also occur. […] Finally, although vegetarian diets are often recommended as a prevention tool for overweight and obesity, […] the meta-analysis of the results found no protective effect of vegetarian diets in the early years of life." A 2021 study found "recent epidemiological studies suggest that higher consumption of ultra-processed food is associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD). […] Research ranging from laboratory-based to prospective epidemiological studies and experimental evidence suggest that ultra-processed foods may affect cardiometabolic health through a myriad of mechanisms, beyond the traditionally recognized individual nutrients. Processing induces significant changes to the food matrix, for which ultra-processed foods may affect health outcomes differently than unrefined whole foods with similar nutritional composition. Notably, the highly degraded physical structure of ultra-processed foods may affect cardiometabolic health by influencing absorption kinetics, satiety, glycemic response, and the gut microbiota composition and function. Food additives and neo-formed contaminants produced during processing may also play a role in CVD risk. Key biological pathways include altered serum lipid concentrations, modified gut microbiota and host-microbiota interactions, obesity, inflammation, oxidative stress, dysglycemia, insulin resistance, and hypertension." (Juul et al., 2021) Lending further credibility to this link are the findings of Lee et al., (2022) which state “Processed and ultra-processed foods increased from 60% of foods” between 1800 to 2019, and that “non-communicable diseases rose over the twentieth century in parallel with increased consumption of processed foods, including sugar, refined flour and rice, and vegetable oils. Saturated fats from animal sources were inversely correlated with the prevalence of NCDs.” (Lee et al., 2022) The data suggests consumption of meat promotes health, counteracts obesity, and is correlated with far fewer diseases than carb-laden, processed plant foods. Oxalates are an organic compound commonly found in many plants, including leafy greens, vegetables, fruits, cocoa, nuts, and seeds. Though it has beneficial functions in plants (such as binding excess calcium which would otherwise hinder sunlight absorption) the effects of oxalate in humans is a very different story. It has been found to cause: Autoimmune conditions Thyroid conditions Gut Inflammation Kidney Stones Chronic Pain Localized Irritation Chronic Inflammation Impairment of normal functions and a whole host of other less well-known diseases.
Thanks for sharing so many studies taken out of context on a regular basis by the meat industry. We didnt see the abundance of meat research showings it's health promoting benefits. Obviously what you eat is up to you. This isn't an opinion piece. It's fact based. Best of luck.
@@TalkingWithDocs What context were these studies taken out of? In what way does that context invalidate the results? And in what way is this different to the studies taken out of context on a regular basis by the plant-based industry? Or should we simply be trusting studies like the Food Compass, a "nutrition profiling system using expanded characteristics for assessing healthfulness of foods" a project heavily funded by Bill Gates and authored by Nutrition Advisor to the White House, Dr. Mozaffarian, which states Almond M&Ms and Ice Cream Cones with Nuts are healthier than Ground Beef or Cheddar Cheese, Canned Pineapple in Heavy Syrup and Lucky Charms are healthier than a Boiled or Poached Egg and Whole Milk, and Frosted Mini Wheats, Chocolate Covered Almonds, and Honey Nut Cheerios are healthier than Skinless Chicken Breast and Whole Eggs? It sure would behoove medical practitioners to stop acting as though they alone are the arbiters of what is opinion and what is fact. So much damage has been done to your profession because of individuals with this exact mentality.
I watched Mutual of Omaha Saturdays after all the cartoons in the morning. I did the carnivore diet for a full month, and I have dropped 40lbs and my leaky gut has cured up. I am currently eating eggs meat & cheese along with some fruit and veggies, and still losing weight and have no gut issues. My hair and skin are healthier, I guess I'm a carbaholic which was causing many health issues so I will continue with it because I am seeing positive results.
Calling it 'restrictive' is your own mental hurdle, there's nothing inherently wrong with doing carnivore. I'm more of meat-heavy keto, but I've never been one for sweets and I tried out nuts and didn't like them. It's a great tool for people and it is most definitely sustainable.
"restrictive" can be a matter of perspective. If you look at it as freeing yourself from unhealthy foods, you don't see it as restrictive. If you look at it as eating fewer of the things you used to, it may feel restrictive.
Absolutely love you guys, however there are just too many people having amazing results from this way of eating. Maybe it shouldn't be a long term diet - but maybe it is a wonderful way to help people get to a healthier place. There are quite a few people who have been doing this for years, and seem to be very healthy. I've been doing it for a month, and feel so much better. My husband was curious, but then said it was too restrictive. He went to his pre op appointment for an upcoming surgery and told them about his wife's crazy diet. Amazingly the doctor said it was a great diet to do before the surgery and that he wished all his patients would do it. Amazing! In just a week so much of his inflammation is gone. A significant difference. He says he feels so much better. Hopefully the surgery will go well. (Constipation is not an issue...)
Carnivore eliminated plant based foods which are toxic! That’s why it works! You can’t add plant based mess back in or problems start up because plants are naturally toxic! Carnivore is a permanent life style if you don’t want illnesses, diseases, cancers: or any surgeries!
I never went fully carnivore, but on a high protein, high fat, low carb (under 50g/day) diet, coupled with vigorous (but not excessive) workouts 6 days a week, I was in the best health of my life at age 50 (LDL 60, HDL 60, Total cholesterol 132, Triglycerides 31, blood pressure under great control). For various reasons, I fell off the low-carb wagon, but have been back on for several months now, and my numbers are returning to those I had at 50.
I love you guys but after a year on the carnivore diet I am no longer on bp medicine and all of my blood levels are at or near perfect according to my doctor. I feel like I’m living proof as to why you’re wrong.
@@ksharpe8137 well most weight loss diets will bring better numbers. Any diet eliminates certain foods and then a drop in calories thus weight loss. I would still have to see the,long term studies. It’s not looking so good for Inuits and they eat a lot of meat and fat. There are healthy and unhealthy vegans and carnivores. Our country isn’t looking so healthy these days.
well i had a triple bypass 7 months ago . Did not have cholesterol no diabetes and not obese . (178 cm height 77 kilos ) I was not eating meat (only 1 time a week ) mostly legumes pasta vegetables rice potatoes and sweets since i was not fat . My cardio surgent said to me . I am a surgeon for 25 years . From my experience cholesterol is not a fact on heart problems . Half the people have cholesterol the other half don't . I would advise you to stop sugar and eliminate carbs and starch to 20% of your daily intake , And the rest 80% out of meat , fish, olive oil avocados vegetables and eat only 2 times a day .
Let's fear the standard American diet. Let's fear obesity, smoking, alcohol, soda pop,.....never fear meat, eggs, seafood, dairy,.....for some people with MS, epilepsy, autoimmune,... carnivore may hold the key to life. True no RCT'S but that is the same with a major portion of medications and foods.
I have to wonder where you got your facts. Constipation is not a problem. I don't poop as much or as often on carnivore. Why? I actually absorb the nutrients in the food instead of pooping them out. I used to take a basket full of medications to fix all the problems i had. None of it worked. The carnivore diet did. The medicine went in the trashcan.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Not sure which part you disagree with. Meat has no vitamin C and if on a truly carnivore diet this can be the outcome over time. This is rare. We honestly don't care id you are carnivore but don't try and tell anyone it's healthy.
I'd like to see studies that high cholesterol causes heart disease. Could it be high insulin, high trigs, high glucose, viseral fat, etc? Wouldn't a CAC test show risk better than simply high cholesterol? If the CAC score is zero but cholesterol high, low trigs, normal HDL, low insulin and glucose are you still at risk?
Not on carnivore just yet but I’m on the Lion Diet and it’s been the best thing for me. All my nutrients and bloodwork came back very much improved and off of allergy meds. Every time I eat vegetables I get super inflamed!!! Might need to do more studies and research. My calories went up and I lost 47 pounds so far. I didn’t eat a lot of sweets or carbs to begin with so it wasn’t hard.
Sorry if we have offended you by suggesting that people should eat fruits and vegetables. We aren't saying people can't eat meat but the benefits of eating some plants can't be denied. Eliminating the sugar, refined carbs and processed food of the SAD is so critical which this way of eating does and explains many of the benefits. Again sorry if we offended that was not our intention. Just to help educate so people can make informed decisions
@@TalkingWithDocs Ok, so what benefits of eating plants? Why do 'you think we are not carnivores? (Or maybe you think that we are scavengers, ok. Yes, that could be right, our stomach pH is cca 1.5, like hyena or vulture has.) Food security doesn't mean an evidence against carnivore diet. How we as a humans can survive so long if our primal diet (meat and animal fat) would be deficient in any essential nutrients and vitamins? I don't want to comment that cholesterol bs based on "solid" epidemiological research... Extracted compounds from plants in laboratory is something totally different than eating them in plants. And please, google something about anti-nutrients in plants...
Well if you must ask babies need a very large amount of calories to grow into infants so their requirements are very different than older children and adults. We aren't aware of any societies where breast milk is consumed beyond the age of 1 or 2. Maybe we are misinformed.
@@TalkingWithDocs And then replace the saturated fat at 1 to 2 years old with what!? They are still growing and will do till they are an adult. Yes you have been misinformed, most probably from the out dated unreliable data from the 70s. You both bumbled along without giving any real scientific evidence to back your claims, most probably because there isn't any reliable concrete evidence out there.
I don't know what your specialities are. Are you two doctors experts in nutrition, human physiology, biochemistry/biochemical pathways and bioenergetics? If not then I will respectfully say that you are talking about a subject that's completely out of your field of expertise. You two should do much more unbiased research before influencing others considering your online reach (it is irresponsible). You clearly have a bias as your lack of knowledge about the carnivore, the keto diet and most importantly on physiology/bioenergetics is obvious. You lost me completely the moment you said "when you eat a diet that's restrictive regardless of what it is, chances are your calories are going to go down". Do you guys understand what a calorie is? That's shockingly ignorant coming from two doctors. I'm sure you are good in your respective field of expertise but you certainly missed the mark completely with that presentation. I am asking as I DO have a level of expertise on the matter and as such cannot agree with the core of what you are saying. I just finished another debated on another channel and don't have much time right now. I'll try and get back to this another time. Suffice to say for now that real unbiased science clearly demonstrates that the carnivore or ketogenic diet is absolutely NOT restrictive and are actually among the healthiest diets you could have. Science is not a "one size fits all" concept so people should pay attention to what works best for them. For instance I know many who do better on a bit of non-starchy vegetables (e.g. sauerkraut..good source of k2) along with their carnivore/keto lifestyle (better bowel movement for example). But also note that fibre can be a problem for a huge proportion of people with IBS/IBD. Having said that, I absolutely do NOT support vegetarianism and veganisms for scientific and health reasons as they have a strong impact on insulin resistance/pre-diabetes/type2 diabetes, inflammation, hormonal imbalance (due to low consumption of healthy animal fats), autoimmune disease, fatty liver disease (including juvenile NAFL and NASH), plant toxicity (oxalates, phytates and lectins), mitochondrial damage/cancer through glycation/production of reactive oxygen species or free radicals among other things, nutritional deficiencies (DHA/EPA (only a small percentage of ALA from plants gets converted),B12, amino acid deficiencies such as methionine, lysine, leucine among others depending on what you are eating). A meat based diet is more bio available and more complete. I also suggest you brush up on your paleopathology. That's a crude summary. I can't elaborate further for now. You cannot possibly put veganism and carnivore or keto in the same "extreme and unhealthy" category. That is pure IGNORANCE. So to you two doctors I say DO BETTER.
Thanks so much for sharing and yes we did not mean to offend by suggesting people eat vegetables and fruit in addition to the meat. Not our intention. Please share your background and level of expertise as we are always interested to learn from others. This isn't our job. We are not selling anything or getting rich from it like so many others in TH-cam and elsewhere. Where did you go to school and graduate from and in what discipline? Also we would love to read the unbiased science that proves carnivore diet is healthy. We just couldn't find it. Provide a link and we will definitely check it out. And yes keto has many benefits. It is very different than carnivore. Reducing sugar, processed foods and refined grains will help any diet be better than the SAD. That's like comparing it to a diet of Fruit Loops. So many people eat garbage so if you eliminate those three it is such a good start to healthy living. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and we look forward to hearing your background, education and the data that shows carnivore is healthy. All the best
2020 started whole-food, plant-based only. Lost 75 lbs in less than a year. About 6 months later my gut so "Nope". Diarrhea for about 2 years and gained 20 lbs this past winter cause I went more SAD. Been on carnivore for a month and I got rid of my diarrhea. Losing about 1/2 lb a week. No energy. Aches and pains the same. Mental fog and naps. Having blood work done in a month and am very curious of the results. Last cholesterol 220 and BP 138/80.
@@TalkingWithDocs it works for short and long periods of time actually. You can use all meat to heal your body to normal then go back to whatever you want or keep going and enjoying the benefits.
Carnivore is the human ancestral way of eating! Since we are talking about people curing things with carnivore diet- here is my story! So everyone knows I am 46, turn 47 soon- but look like I am in my early 30’s. I am now 122lbs and 5’7”. I have done a zero carb carnivore diet for 9 months now. Before I was saved by the carnivore diet I was 165lbs (weight would continue to creep up since I was 40 years old.) And I had so many other issues that are now cured. One was i had fibrocystic issues before carnivore. It built up over a six year period of western / SAD diet. Doctors said it was normal, nothing we can do. “Part of aging and now normal.” Nope! Then I tried the Mediterranean scam grain diet for 6 months- made things worse and even put me into peri menopause and many other issues like cysts that got to be quarter size round, so painful! Fibrocystic masses too were big! I was fed up and decided to go dig and dig to see if anything would reverse this! Found Dr. Baker, Dr. Berry, and Dr. Chaffee with carnivore diet! Then found out cruciferous veggies can ruin your thyroid and prevent natural absorption of iodine found in foods! I had eaten lean skinless chicken breast (a half of one maybe once a day), rices, and broccoli for 6 years- age 40-46 and daily! I want ladies to know they need to avoid cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, cabbage, Brussel sprouts, asparagus, and cauliflower to prevent fibrocystic breasts- but plants in general cause it! Your body needs iodine for your lady organs and all other organs, but especially your thyroid! They really mess up the thyroid which messes up your hormones and causes all other issues! One big domino affect! I ask people to go watch Dr. Chaffee with Dr. Sally Norton on plant toxins! Fibrocystic breast issues are now what doctors have settled as “normal!” I truly feel it is considered an auto immune issue / plant toxic illness of inflammation that can be reversed with carnivore! If you look the rates of fibrocystic illnesses is drastically increasing- including breast cancer- and it’s posted on line that nobody knows what causes those! They tell people not to eat saturated fats! I eat fatty meats of beef and eggs- and 8 months on carnivore no more cysts and i have only one smaller fibrocystic mass left that is super small- continues to shrink- not the large mass it once was- shrinking drastically on carnivore diet! Carnivore diet cured so much for me! * No more perimenopause- completely reversed! *Period cycles all timed perfect with 4 week intervals.And no PMS symptoms, but only the actual menstrual cycle itself! *No more night sweats *No more waking every 2 hours at night! *It used to take me 20 minutes or longer to fall asleep at night when I would first go to bed at night- before carnivore. Now it takes like a minute or less. Haven’t noticed since I am out fast! *No more life long eczema *No more cold hands *No more cold body temp in general! Used to feel like a reptile - only warm in texas sun. *No more IBS symptoms (gas, bloating, stomach pain, constipation, diarrhea) *No more feeling low energy by 12pm and zombie by 4pm *No more purple looking hands in winter *No more brain fog *No more arthritis that I felt in hands, knees, and hips- or elbows *Lost 45+ pounds from former baby weight and peri menopause weight. *Always had 20/20 vision with slight stigmatism- but in March doctor said my stigmatism is reversing! *Don’t sunburn as easily anymore and tan well. *Wrinkles around eyes seem to be much less. I am 46 and look like I am in early 30’s. *Gums look super healthy. Dentist seems irritated as my teeth are not dirty when cleaning every six months. Think they know they won’t make money off me. *No more sore chest from monthly periods- no swelling feeling of fullness or discomfort that prevented me from sleeping on my stomach. Now I sleep every night on my stomach! *Fibrocystic Breast issues reversing! Almost all gone after 6 years of buildup! *no cravings unless they are for meat *no more angina symptoms before a period- which started about 3 years ago. *No more feeling weak like almost passing out and dizzy around ovulation and periods * no more fingers swelling- that started a few years ago- rings kept being tight- is pattern I noticed. One ring I had resized larger and it’s super loose now. Will have to resize smaller. *feel stronger- now lifting barbells not just hands weights. Dr. Baker said since I am 46, and 5’7” at 122lbs- need more resistance training to add more muscle weight. . So bought a 47lb barbell off Amazon and have 40 extra pounds added to it. Will continue to progress with that. * i had started growing grey hairs in one of my eyebrows, few hairs at a time, but no grey in my blonde hair yet - but assumed it was coming before Carnivore. Now on carnivore I have had no new grey hairs growing in eye brows and still no grey hair in my natural blonde hair. And in the sun it gets super light highlights. * no more body odor! * I used to get a little anxiety with large crowds- like if attending special events- but since on carnivore I don’t get it that much. *I was a bit OCD before carnivore, but so much more relaxed so barely like that. * I was a relaxed person before, but somehow am even more relaxed and never stress about things. *Since I was a young child my sense of smell has been terrible. But 9 months on carnivore my sense of smell has gone crazy! I smell things even far away! Amazing! *no more allergies! I was allergic to cedar and oak pollens- and mold- but since carnivore I am no longer reacting to those outdoor pollens which is amazing! If I think of anything else will add. ☺️👍🏻 I know when people go on carnivore they are trying to heal something, but if they aren’t like me and notice small things- they may not notice they are healing way more than they realized- things plant foods were causing! And they need to remember, processed foods are made from plants- but so are whole foods (raw or cooked!) they are all toxic! The carnivore diet cures! ☺️👌🏻 The body is a network made of multiple gears- and if one gets messed up it causes a whole domino affect of problems like I had! The carnivore lifestyle is not a fad, it’s the ancestral human way of eating! Go Carnivore for a few months and see how you feel! ☺️👍🏻
Glad you are doing well but most studies would contradict what you are asserting such as this metadata study from the National Institutes of Health: Plant-based diets like vegetarian or vegan diets might influence circulating levels of inflammatory biomarkers, thereby reducing the risk of chronic diseases. This systematic review and meta-analysis aimed to investigate the associations of veganism and vegetarianism with circulating inflammatory biomarkers in comparison to omnivores. Literature search was conducted in Pubmed and EMBASE until April 2020 and mean differences of biomarkers were assessed for: C-reactive protein (CRP), interleukin-6 (IL-6), interleukin-18 (IL-18), interleukin-1 receptor antagonist (IL-1 RA), tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-ɑ), E-selectin, intercellular adhesion molecule-1 (ICAM-1), monocyte chemoattractant protein-1 (MCP-1), adiponectin, omentin-1 and resistin. Of initially identified 1073 publications, 21 cross-sectional studies met the inclusion criteria and were included in the systematic review and meta-analysis. Vegan diet was associated with lower levels of CRP compared to omnivores [mean difference − 0.54 mg/l, 95%-CI: − 0.79 to − 0.28, p
And this also from the NIH on animal based diets and inflammation: Diet is a major factor determining gut microbiota composition and perturbances in this complex ecosystem are associated with the inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Here, we used gnotobiotic approach to analyze, how interaction between diet rich in proteins and gut microbiota influences the sensitivity to intestinal inflammation in murine model of ulcerative colitis. We found that diet rich in animal protein (aHPD) exacerbates acute dextran sulfate sodium (DSS)-induced colitis while diet rich in plant protein (pHPD) does not. The deleterious effect of aHPD was also apparent in chronic DSS colitis and was associated with distinct changes in gut bacteria and fungi. Therefore, we induced acute DSS-colitis in germ-free mice and transferred gut microbiota from aCD or aHPD fed mice to find that this effect requires presence of microbes and aHPD at the same time. The aHPD did not change the number of regulatory T cells or Th17 cells and still worsened the colitis in immuno-deficient RAG2 knock-out mice suggesting that this effect was not dependent on adaptive immunity. The pro-inflammatory effect of aHPD was, however, abrogated when splenic macrophages were depleted with clodronate liposomes. This treatment prevented aHPD induced increase in colonic Ly-6Chigh pro-inflammatory monocytes, but the ratio of resident Ly-6C−/low macrophages was not changed. These data show that the interactions between dietary protein of animal origin and gut microbiota increase sensitivity to intestinal inflammation by promoting pro-inflammatory response of monocytes.
Also from the NIH on breast cancer and cruciferous vegetables: In summary, the current study suggests that cruciferous vegetable intake is associated with reduced breast cancer risk, in particular with broccoli and cauliflower intakes. The inverse association of cruciferous vegetable consumption with breast cancer risk seems to be more apparent in premenopausal women. Biologically, dietary ITCs obtained from cruciferous vegetables have been shown to modulate estrogen metabolism, which may, at least partly, explain the differential effect of cruciferous vegetable intake on pre- and postmenopausal women, although other mechanisms may apply. These data also indicate the successful impact of public health efforts on encouraging vegetable consumption, which may change consumption patterns and modify the results of association studies on vegetables and disease.
It is a good way to go to deal with some big issues like inflammation due to allergies and also high blood sugar levels. Once some stability is found, one should SLOWLY reintroduce certain foods at a time, after weighing the benefits of that food. Inflammatory grains like white rice (high sugars) or buckwheat (high oxalates), might never be the best to reintroduce, due to the negative effects outweighing the positive. Individual fruits and vegetables should be looked at in the same way.
Yes elimination diets have benefits for sure. The obligatory saturated fat in red meat is inflammatory though. And yes we are against refined grains - white bread might as well be cake. Thanks for sharing
@@TalkingWithDocs That not true red meat is not inflammatory neither is white rice. Whole plant foods are inflammatory because the hull is indigestible and this is what causes the inflammatory response. All the top ten oldest human to ever live never ate whole plants their diets were made up animal products and some refined carbs.
Yes, I watch Mutual of Omaha. Following my cardiologist suggested that I have been eating a Mediterranean diet which has stabilized my cholesterol levels, and I have been able to maintain my weight has stabilized at 175 BMI 22 to 23.
You said that eating an animal based diet will increase cholesterol. Rather than speculating, how do you prove that is a material fact? How is it logical that our bodies consist of cholesterol but yet somehow we increase cholesterol levels by strictly eating it? lol Aren’t the blood markers that we use to determine what is healthy or not based on the drug industry? Wouldn’t that make all of this inaccurate since it is biased?
Our bodies make the cholesterol that is required. Countless studies have shown this. Even Dr Shawn Baker who is a champion of carnivore revealed his LDL was through the roof. Up to you. Eat whatever you like. We are just sharing information so people can make informed choices. We have nothing to gain.
@@TalkingWithDocs Countless studies don’t necessarily have to do with objective reality in relation to the use of logic and reasoning. There’s a lack of prudence in relation to wisdom when it comes to healthcare. That’s why there are risks and liabilities having a medical procedure done because it’s based on a balance of probabilities that lacks certainty. Also, when it comes to doing business, the decisions are based on game theory regarding strategy. There are numerous business strategies that include prisoner’s dilemma, backwards reasoning, and zero sum game. Studies don’t have first hand knowledge of a fact and can only guess what is true. I also work at a hospital and know how the business works.
@@jg5755 You’re welcome. All of this has to do with the rule of law and natural law in relation to logic and reason. Metaphysics is having to do with the fundamental nature of reality and that includes cause and effect. Every medical professional should have a background in philosophy since they are dealing with making wise decisions for patients.
So doctors, please answer this for me because I really would like to know. If plant based diets, vegans and the like are so good for humans and so nutrient dense, why do most if not ALL humans who subscribe to this way of eating, need vitamin supplements and are constantly hungry?
So we would say someone who eats a whole food plant based diet isn't hungry. They can actually eat as much as they want. It is very filling and satisfying. As for supplements most people are deficient in B12 and vitamin D. Including those who eat meat. And this video isn't about being a vegan or about being a vegetarian. It is about not eating an all meat diet. We think you just may have missed the point. Maybe the fog from the meat 🤣
@@TalkingWithDocsno sir didn’t missed the point. You’re funny though. I didn’t take a jab at you so why would you at me?Just goes to show being a doctor doesn’t mean one has decorum.
We sleep well. We are against the SAD diet. We just want people to know this diet is not healthy. Yes the elimination part has benefits but be careful king term. Glad it worked for you though. All the best
Also to caveat on my longer comment, I was able to come off all 3 of my prescribed medications. Pepcid AC, Atorvistatin (metabolic poison, lots of brain fog) and Androgel. I just stopped taking my testosterone (Androgel) and when I saw my endocrinologist 3 months later he was astonished by my blood markers for my androgen levels. That they are the best they have ever been. Also the Carnivore diet is not a weight loss diet. Yes that is a side effect, but it is a weight and health optimization diet. Just ask Al those silly people who reversed their metabolic and autoimmune diseases.
Unbelievable that 2 highly respected Dr's would put out a video without research on the subject, but relied on data from biased studies. Not one mention on how the Government pushed grains and junk for years and created a Diabetic problem we have today. Just saying you could have done better and some research prior to dumping this click bait.
Yes the government has made mistakes for sure. Look at dairy 🤣. Avoid sugar, refined grains and processed foods. But carnivore isn't healthy. Full stop. But again like we have said a thousand times eat whatever you want. It doesn't matter to us
Thanks for leaving a comment. Most experts have destroyed the likes of Shawn Baker, Ken Berry or Bart Kay. Those guys seem to be looking more to sell you stuff than help you. It's their livelihood so we get it. Just like big food or big Pharma.
I respectfully disagree. First of all, as you must know, our digestive system is set up for both plants and animal flesh. We metabolize heme protein far more efficiently than plant protein; both of which are broken down into the amino acids to be re-assembled as human protein. You know this. So, why are you're saying something that's blatantly wrong? After recovering from serious drug/alcohol addiction, I regained my strength and endurance by a 90% heme diet. I eat about 6-7 lbs of red meat a week, as well as two dozen eggs a week, excellent meat from distributors that sell meat with no extras pumped into it. I do not eat meat from the supermarket that has red food coloring in it as well as growth hormones, etc. That's crap. Yeah, I pay about 15 bucks a pound for my meats. I spend a lot of money on meat. I'm almost 70, and I am now in peak shape. I work out at the gym every day working on different muscle groups. It's about a 4000 calorie a day diet. No, meat is good for me. I will not give that up, good sirs! I am NOT like most men my age who have just thrown in the towel on serious fitness. I am very fit. I no longer have high blood pressure. I threw my BP meds away two years ago. I won't even say anything to the Joaquin Phoenix crowd who say it's tantamount to murder being a carnivore. I've had face-to-face arguments with a few of those people that almost got violent (on their part).
Thanks for sharing your opinion. We would also respectfully disagree. And so would the body of science. But you get to choose for you. We are not sharing an opinion here. All the best and good luck
@@TalkingWithDocs I'm not saying that my diet doesn't include a lot of veggies. It does. One point as far as heme protein is concerned..."Heme iron, which is present mainly in meat, poultry and fish, is well absorbed. Non-heme iron, which accounts for the majority of the iron in plants, is less well absorbed. More than 95% of functional iron in the human body is in the form of heme." A balance is the best, and that's not an opinion. You've obviously done well for yourself, but advocating a meatless diet is just not good. It's extreme, and saying that science would cogently support it is way off.
Docs, I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I'm not reacting out of thin air or out of some vain opinion sprung out of hubris. I know how the meat diet has improved my bodily functions. This is not a fiction. Of course, I eat veggies too, lots of them and good ones. I respect you both. I deleted that other comment about being in shape or out of. It was snarky and out of line. I apologize.
7:37: sure sounds to me that you are suggesting what not to eat, by your very clip title! Heads up - there are people on social media selling supplements for whatever diet you choose. Fact is, many carnivores (including myself) find themselves coming OFF supplements after being carnivore long term, because their vitamin and mineral deficiencies disappear. When I first went keto (from SAD) in 2018, my naturopath put me on 11 supplements to address my (tested) deficiencies. By the time I had been carnivore for 6 months, I was not taking ANY supplements. Oh, I know - but if I stay on it for 20 years it'll kill me! Well, I'm 70 now, so if I live to 90, having normalized my A1c, BG, BP, lost 50 lb, cleared up my tinnitus, eliminated my lower back pain, shoulder pain, arthritic joints and ribs, reversed my asthma and chronic athletes foot, then I'll get 20 years of feeling like I was in my 20's, that'l l be a nice trade for spending the next 25 years in chronic pain (the last 10 of which would probably be in an extended care ward!) 🤣🤣🤣
Glad it's helping you honestly. We just want to try and help people be healthy. We aren't selling anything. We aren't getting rich off this like the mega carnivore TH-camrs. Just trying to keep people informed. Didn't mean to cause so much rage in your community.
We look forward to that for sure. And are happy to change our position that plants have health benefits if that is proven but obviously that's not true.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. We can agree to disagree with the entire volume of scientific literature on our side. We don't care what you eat but it's simply untrue to say it's healthy. All the best
So keto is very different. Both have benefits by eliminating sugar, refined grains and processed food. Any diet will be better when comparing it to the SAD. Compare it to other healthy ways of eating
I think you guys are saying that I can eat a 16oz steak, 1 broccoli stem (for constipation), and a slice of orange (prevent Scurvy) I'll live to be 120? I can work with that.
If you want to claim a specific diet shift is extreme or not a good idea. I think it would be best to provide sound evidence that it is such. And I dont mean ALL of the body of research on a 100% carnivore diet that are usually ALWAYS riddled with confounds and healthy/unhealthy user bias, as most of all studies done on meat are done on GENERAL meat eaters that usually have every single bad thing that comes along with our current modern food. Please open your minds and drop the dogmatic thought process. I've been a carnivore for almost 20 years, and I have PERFECT health. I've met other long term carnivores to and not a single one of them have poor health. I do appreciate your guys profession and I applaud and thank you for wanting to help people but please don't disregard the fallacy behind research and its a big enough fallacy to void research done on meat by itself.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. We did not mean to offend you by suggesting that people eat fruits and vegetables. We looked for any research behind the carnivore diet but couldn't find any other than anecdotes. If you have access to any please forward as we are keen to improve our knowledge on any topic we do a video on. There is however lots of research on the benefits of plants. Anti cancer. Anti aging. And countless other health benefits. We aren't saying don't eat meat but that if you eat only meat you will be missing out on so many good things. Get rid of sugar obviously. Get rid of white bread and refined grains. Duh. And get rid of processed foods with all of their preservatives, artificial flavours and colors, sweeteners and whatever else. No brainer. The SAD is just that. Sad. But please don't take offence at the suggestion that some plants can help you live a better and healthier life. We aren't selling anything. This isn't our job like many carnivore TH-camrs. We don't need the money. We are simply trying to help our loyal audience make informed choices for themselves. Hope that clears it up and again our apologies if we offended you. We just don't understand why this community feels the need to degrade, belittle and launch personal attacks over their food. Seems very odd
@@TalkingWithDocs I never stated once that I was offended at your claims that plant matter is beneficial to humans. My problem comes with your claims on meat that are not scientifically backed by meaningful research done SOLY on a 100% carnivore diet, and I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. Spreading misinformation is quite dangerous and could get people hurt. As far of what you could be "missing out on", on a strictly 100% carnivore diet, that has NO context in your video. There is no evidence or hell even any anecdotes to suggest you'll be missing out on anything; Fiber? I've never seen one study showing low fiber intake is bad, vitamin c? Muscle meat has vitamin c and competes for the same transport receptors as carbs. Vitamin C is not a problem on carnivore, vitamin k1? Your body clearly retro- converts vitamin k2 to vitamin k1, phytonutrients? If you are consuming cows that graze on grass their entire lives, the muscle meat by itself has sufficient amounts of phytonutrients, calcium? You can simply consume bone broth or even egg shells, and even then calcium isn't an issue on a 100% carnivore diet. If people can make negative claims based off of opinion, I can do the same. Please don't spread misinformation a subject that has little veracity.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Would love to peruse the scientific literature they provided the base for the statements in your comments. Please forward as we are always looking to expand our knowledge. We were under the impression that yes muscle has vitamin C but if you are cooking it and due to its water soluble nature that much of it is degraded. Organ meat is a different story. Please correct us if we are wrong. All the best to you though too. We appreciate your passion and only mentioned offended as that was the tone of your comment. Texting does that sometimes. Our apologies.
Everyone is DIFFERENT in their Make up and their Physiology.. THEREFORE Do what works for YOU!!! 90% Of our food in America is PROCESSED and Bad for you and Vegetables that are Not Organic are filled with Pestisides, ESPECIALLY FRUITS.. we are a FAT Nation as a Result of our Western Style American Diet, 41% Of our population are FAT and have Diabetes because of What is in the food!! The Carnivore Lifestyle WORKS!!!! Meat Has vitamin C along with IRON which Most people are deficeint in!! Eggs give you SOOO Many Wonderful Vitamins!!!
Bart Kay will school you two in nutritional science. It’s common knowledge that MD’s get nearly no nutritional training in med school. That’s evident in your video.
Thanks for leaving a comment. There are lots of smart MDs who have done lots of research and still don't agree on topics like these. We appreciate your passion for Dr Kay though. And yes in med school you don't get much nutritional training. We have however done thousands of hours of research to educate ourselves. But we assume that doesn't count for anything in the world of the internet. Check out this letter by someone who actually specializes in this rather than someone trying to get attention on the internet like Bart Kay he has been discredited a thousand times over but is very popular with the gym bros and their "science". At the end of the day eat whatever you want. proteinaholic.com/an-open-letter-to-bart-kay/
Here is a video about Bart Kay. We would hope your standards for information are much higher than this. It's sad really th-cam.com/video/kO71gOwkWgA/w-d-xo.html
Your argument was tested and proved wrong about 100 years ago by a guy who ate meat for a year under Dr supervision and did perfectly fine. He was an explorer, can’t think of his name. Too many people have fixed problems and been eating carnivore 10 years or more. I do keto with mainly meat and at 62 have not felt this good or had such good blood markers since I was in my 20’s and off all the meds I was on so which life is better? I’ll stick with this. Of course mainstream doesn’t want the masses healthy, if we were, then there would not be as much need to see a Dr, big pharma would start losing money, and Corn Flakes and Fruit Loops would quit selling. All that processed “food” is really garbage. Wonder who sponsors your channel.
We agree. Get rid of sugar, refined carbs and processed foods. The big food industry is just like big Pharma. Profit over everything. That includes the animal agriculture business
I’ve read quite a few articles about people who have done very very well on a carnivore diet. One woman, was in her late 70’s and looked 45. Then the yogis say all veggie diet is best, . I think the Mediterranean Diet is the best. Everyone is different. One thing for sure is refined, processed foods are universally terrible. Also, advice from MD’s who get no Nutritional Education makes no sense. Their understanding of Cholesterol tells all. Newer studies show COLESTEROL IS NOT THE CAUSE OF HEART DISEASE. INFLAMMATION IS.
Hi marie. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Yes traditional medical school training is essentially zero when it comes to nutrition. We have spent thousands of hours educating ourselves abs researching nutrition and health. If you would be so kind please forward the study that showed cholesterol is not related to heart disease. We will certainly agree it is not the only problem and that big Pharma hasn't been deceptive. But that doesn't change the fact that decades of research have shown LDL to be a problem. Alongside inflammation. Insulin resistance. And many other factors. But to summarily dismiss it as you are is unwise. At the end of the day you can eat what you want. Have whatever LDL level you want. We are just doing our best to keep our viewers informed abs educated rather than deceived by reddit and influencers trying to sell you their book or supplement. No different than big Pharma. Or big tobacco. Or big meat, dairy and egg. All the best to you.
@@TalkingWithDocs TY for responding to me . Maybe I was too critical, I do agree with most of what YU are saying. , and you’ve obviously Self educated. I don’t agree that CARNIVORE OR KETO IS ALWAYS BAD, AND FOR SOME IT HAS BEEN LIFE CHANGING. I AM A RETIRED RN, WITH A DEGREE ALSO IN CHINESE MEDICINE. MY HEALTH CARE EXPERIENCE IS OVER 40 years. I am HIGHLY EDUCATED AND HAVE SPENT MY LIFE RESEARCHING HEALING . REGARDING CHOLESTEROL, THERE HAS BEEN TONS OF RESEARCH LINKING HEART DISEASE PRIMARILY TO INFLAMMATION, INDONT HAVE THE ABI,ITY TO SEND YU ANY ARTICLES. IM STRUGGLING WITH MY OWN HEALTH ISSUES RIGHT NOW. My CHOLESTEROL IS NOT ONE OF THEM BTW. I DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT LDL ETC. , BUT, FROM WHAT IVE READ, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS , FROM NUMEROUS SOURCES, CHOLESTEROL FORMS IN THE PROCESS OF INFLAMMATION. IT IS NOT THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF HEART DISEASE. PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I HAVE TYOEV2 DIABETES. KETO DIET HAS BROUGHT MY A1C DOWN TO NORMAL. NO AMT OF DIABETES DRUGS OR THE DIETICIAN RECOMMENDED DIABETES DIET DID THAT. SO, KETO HAS ITS PLACE. I JUST THINK YOUR ADVICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INFORMATIVE ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF A MEDICALLY SPECIFIC DIET AS OPPISED TO CALLUNG THEM FAD DIETS. AYUEVEDIC MEDICNE TREATS ALL DISEASE WITH SPECIFIC DIETS FOR SPECIFIC BODY TYPYES. THE CHINESE ALSO. OVER THOUSANDS OF YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. PEOPLE HAVE CURED CANCER BY DRASTICALLY CHANGING THEIR DIET. MY BROTHER WAS JYST RECENTLY DISGGNOSED WITH DISBETES. HE IMMEDIATELY WENT ON OZEMPIC AND IS “ eating less” . I tried to encourage him to try KETO, BUT HIS DOCTOR TOLD HIM ITS JUST A FAD DIET. HE WOUKD RATHER TAKE A NEW DRUG AND EAT LESS. I GUARANTEE HE WILL NOT REVERSE HIS DIABETES. BTW, KETO IS BASICALLY ATKINS ANDTHAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS. , HARDLY A FAD, AGAIN, THANKS FOR RESPONDING TO MY COMMENT. TAKE CARE. IM SURE YOU ARE GOOD DOCTORS.
Puzzle me why ppl do carnivore, I eat Mediterranean style and enjoy delicious nutritious foods, benefits my skin glows, have a diverse gut microbiota and sustainable.😊 long-term 😊😊
I’m doing the Mediterranean diet lifestyle as well and I’ve never been healthier. I’ve lost 50 pounds, keeping it off and my cholesterol numbers are way down.
@@TalkingWithDocs got to have a reason to push the typical sick care! Definitely not for me... 55 yo, Carnivore for several years and never been healthier by all markers...
Ha! yes, I remember Mutual of Omaha. I felt bad for "Jim", because no matter where they were, the old guy would go 'We're going to send in Jim..." - the lion's pride, the bear den... etc. Very good point about the diets though - everyone _is_ passionate about extreme diets. I have found you can try to caution people, but most of the time they have to learn the hard way by trying it.
"Fight it, Jim!" 😂 Oh yeah, good times! 👍 Of course, Jim Fowler got the last laugh (if you care to look at it that way) - he took over as host of the show, and passed away quite recently (2019, IIRC). Tip o' the hat to them both - they done good.
Marlin Perkins Wild Kingdom. I eat a plant based diet. When a friend of mine told me that I needed to eat meat or I would grow weak and unmuscular. I told him to tell that to the next gorilla or Holstein bull he met.
But what about the Inuit or First Nations people who live in colder climates and predominately eat animal based diets? They don't have a lot of dietary options to supplement for micro-nutrient shortcomings. So it can be done, right?
@@TalkingWithDocs But do they have the issues that the studies you mentioned claim they should have in much higher rates than other human populations? that would be much more persuasive. its not enough to say they are unhealthy as there are many reason why they could be that have nothing to do with meat.
Certified brain fog from eating a carnivore diet Ken Berry in his book on page 103 he says nuts and seeds are very healthy, the nutrients and fiber are great. Page 187 says I eat many servings of colorful veggies everyday. Page 192 says there are many days each week I eat no fiber at all. Page 205 says I often go days without eating anything but fatty meat. There are no references in the book to any study because he never read any studies he just says whatever he wants.
Its not just saturated fat that causes high ldl. If you are deficient in saturated fat and lower it even more, makes sense it will hurt your liver and ldl will increase
I agree with extreme diets being bad. It’s not sustainable for your lifetime either.
Makes sense
Yup, along with making Chef Boyardee Pizzas, we'd watch Mutual Of Omaha's Wild Kingdom with Marlin Perkins & Jim Fowler every Sunday evening back in the 70's 👍 😎
@@TalkingWithDocs It is stupid to say something this easily.
You have to choose a way of life not a diet. I am satisfied how I had been living and felt great. This is a forced effort and I think I am now done.
Kindly provide transcript if possible
4 year carnivore here. I came from the diet you recommend, yet I was pre diabetic, had gum disease, IBS, arthritis, dangerously high BP and more. Since eliminating grains, fruit (apart from wild berries) and veggies, and eating considerably more saturated fat, I have cured all my issues, and in the best health (backed up with blood tests) and with the best body of my life. Sorry gents, your profession is based on keeping people drugged and sick, your advice is worthless.
Glad you are better now
is this satire?? These are the kind of doctors that made me unhealthy and I left them a long time ago. grass fed beef has changed my health and life dramatically.
Glad to hear it. We only want people to be healthy
Everyone has a right to their opinions, but might want to do some REAL research!! I'm 71 and thanks to carnivore I am better than ever! Lost weight to 123, have overcome fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, type 2 diabetes, 5 spinal fusions, high blood pressure, plus anxiety and depression!! My doctor is rapidly lowering or stopping a lot of my meds!! Like metphormin, metoprolol, gabapentin, mobic. I had to go on disability at age 50, but now feel better than I have in years!! Off my walker, and only occasionally using my cane!! Don't knock this way of eating and the doctors who are helping SO MANY PEOPLE, until you give it a try!! What are you afraid of?? 😂🤗🙏🙏
That is so awesome! Congrats. Thanks for taking the time to share your comments. All the best to you.
It appears these ‘doctors’ have had ZERO nutritional training whatsoever…
Telling my N=1 story to help get the message out there:
During the extreme lockdown here in the Philippines, January 2021 I was obese type 2 with pre-diabetes and high blood pressure. I was suffering from metabolic syndrome. I understood the comorbidity I had as a 58 year old would greatly affect me if I contracted the Rona. I had to lose fat, reverse hypertension, reverse my NAFLD and reduce my HbA1c.
Sitting in my armchair at the beginning of lockdown I saw that the keto/ketovore/carnivore diet claimed it could ‘cure’ my ailments. I watched a bunch of videos and tried to make sense of the linked papers supporting the claims. End result was that it simply made a lot of sense to me.
8 months later, whilst still sitting in my armchair (most of the time). I had lost the 30kg/66lbs of fat that was required to get me down to a ‘normal’ BMI, I GREATLY improved my blood pressure to the point it raised my wife’s eyebrows, she’s a First Responder. My blood sugar was well back in to the ‘normal’ range and I vastly reduced inflammation.
I also reversed IBS that had controlled my life for 40 years (I lost jobs because of it), got rid of decades long debilitating heartburn, my Testosterone went up drastically and I stopped snoring … my wife is happy 🤓 I was ‘foggy’ & forgetful, possible early stage MCI, I sometimes also slurred my words and forgot what I was talking about mid sentence, this has completely reversed! Undiagnosed but recognised by my family I got out of a bad case of lockdown depression.
A few months ago I further decided to cut out most vegetables from my meat heavy Keto WOE, only adding on occasion a little onion, garlic, green peppers and tomato for some flavour… always salting to taste. Improvements are continuing with a pace with better mental health, blood markers, skin condition etc.
Simply eating nutrient dense meat, HEAVY in animal fat, eggs, seafood, salmon … single ingredient real food is all it took …
Whilst cutting out processed food, sugar/carbohydrates and seed/‘vegetable’ oils and most dairy.
We THRIVE when eating our evolved, species specific Proper Human Diet along with some intermittent fasting to mimic the way our ancestors survived.
I’m sure there are thousands upon thousands of people that have similar anecdotal stories to tell … Please tell them … get the message out there!
Thanks so much for sharing your story and your expertise. We love all the comments and really appreciate them. Congrats on your success
I've been doing carnivore for 3 yrs now and I've lost 175lbs without exercise and all my acne, joint pain, and IBS is all gone and I have never felt better in my life and I haven't found this way of eating to be restricting at all
Thanks for sharing
3 years, 👍🏼 Bravo! And no exercise, time to start to build or keep muscle, unless you are young but it is still recommended. Also 20 min walks in the sunlight. Getting that heart pumping faster, will help to make the heart muscle stronger and healthier. Don’t forget chicken and pork and avocados for potassium and stay hydrated ( also other supplements that keep you hydrated) , red meat lacks enough potassium and we need 4700 mg per day and I doubt 10% of the total population meets that requirement.
Thankyou. I replied to this video last night. I hope they're hearing your comment.
Carnivores do not require 4700 mg of potassium. That is way too much for us. That amount will cause hyperkalemia in the absence of excess carbohydrates.
@@TalkingWithDocs maybe you should heed these testimonials more, doctor, like my own and this dude’s. They tell a difference story, doctor, despite your scientific facts!
Carnivore since 2020, reversed diverticulitis, reversed high blood pressure, lost 40 pounds, allergies have all disappeared. Not one medical doctor could help except recommend drugs.... (humbly speaking) I look and feel amazing until I eat plant/grain products. Never take nutritional advice from doctors...
Congrats. Way to go!
I’m only here for the comments and boy am I not disappointed. I’m just curious to see how long the comment section will be left open.
We never close it 😀. It's pretty entertaining. Like taking a toy away from a child
Do you know what’s far, far worse than being on a carnivore diet for 20 years. Being fat for 20 years. That’s what people need to worry about.
I had the dearest relative who was overweight. He was active until his mid 80s and died over 90 yrs. old. Some weight issues are genetic (hypothyroid). Yes, being obese is bad, but he ate healthfully and lived a good life. You are what you eat.
So eating sensibly and exercising is very important for sure
@@TalkingWithDocs Yes.
The two are not the only choices. You can be thin AND omnivorous. People need to just don’t eat too much all the time. As simple as that. Well except for those 1% lacking satiety gene or something ofc.
@@jisyang8781 My dearest relative did not overeat. He had a thyroid issue and speaking as someone of average (not fat nor thin), but with a thyroid issue myself, let me just say that most people with thyroid work out more consistently, eat sensibly than most people. Most people without thyroid issues neglect to realize it is a real thing and is often undiagnosed. People with thyroid (whether hypo or hyper) take endocrinologist ordered medication, do blood work and lab tests and frequently have to readjust levels over their lifetime. And sometimes people with hypothyroid eat virtually nothing and work out and gain just as people with hyperthyroid eat like crazy and might lose to dangerous levels. And we wish that our thyroid gland was like the average individual who could just choose fad diets and lose (or gain). After years of being both hypo and hyper (thanks to the wrong dosage of medication which is also not fun), I do not mess with any silly fad diet and just eat healthfully as my mother did and in moderation. Also FYI tragic loss (which I recently had) or even overstimulation can kick the thyroid from low to high. Contrary to what the average person may think, neither is great as you realize you are not in control of how your body responds. To just be of average weight after working out as a paid dancer and singer for years is a relief. Frankly, I believe people should listen to their doctors and their bodies and not the latest fad that runs down the pike.
46 years old.. Two months in carnivore… no knees inflammation… I can run again… down 30 pounds… energy all day long… wearing small size clothes I had in storage for 15 years… ribeye steak FTW..
There you go
It is not extreme not eating sugar, carbs or omega-6 vegetable oils! It is common sense.
We agree. Avoid those things for sure
Been on carnivore for almost two years. I have lost 150 lbs on it and have maintained that weight loss. I have never felt so amazing in all my life. I think I’ll have a ribeye now. 😀
Good luck
@@TalkingWithDocsThanks! All the best to you.
CARNIVORE RULES & BIG PHARMA/BIG FOOD(aka processed garbage) + BRAINWASHED DOCTORS SUCK!!!!
Isn't this a stupid ass video. Been carnivore 7 months and feel best in my life. Where are their controlled studys saying what doctors are prescribing is good for long term..they are typical idiot doctors. Good luck on your journey.
I’m on carnivore too I’ve lost all my fat all my skin conditions have cleared up and I feel better than I’ve ever felt
Red flags If a doctor says “balanced” “eat fiber” “eat veggies and fruit and no meat no saturated fat” or “follow food pyramid” “rainbow on your plate” “lean chicken breast” “vegan vegetarian” “you need pills” “your prescription” “high cholesterol isn’t good” then you need a new doctor! You are cruising for illnesses, diseases, and cancers and surgeries in the future! They want that as it makes them money and secures their job in life!
Hey no one said don't eat meat. Sorry if we offended you by saying eat fruits and vegetables in addition to meat. We feel we owe it to the viewers to share this as they have many anti cancer, anti aging and other health benefits that meat simply doesn't have. Again did not mean to offend and are certainly not trying to convert the world to veganism. If you can share why this community is so defensive it would really be helpful as so many of the comments have been rude, condescending and attacking in nature. We hope you have a great day. We are just trying to help people make educated choices.
A balanced diet is great…unless you are seriously ill on your “balanced” diet as I was with autoimmune disease….carnivore SAVED MY LIFE…..when doctors failed
Thanks for sharing
I make sure my car gets a balanced amount of diesel and gasoline.
The western diet is not balanced at all! It’s almost all plant based!
You will never convince any of us that have had multiple chronic health problems, requiring multiple medications, that resolved on keto/carnivore diet.
Up to you obviously. Keto is very different than carnivore. Sorry. Best of luck
@chaz6399 you mixed keto and carnivore together. Which one is it?
@@BigBoss-kq8mb there is such a thing as ketocarnivore. You eat lots of meat but you can have non starchy vegetable unlike the strictly carnivore than only eats meat, eggs and cheese.
Amen.
These guys got so much wrong, amd parroted the unscientific mainstream narrative and ridiculous studies that have way to many confounding factors and biases. For instance the said, without backing up, that you’re missing out in so many nutrients. Without even stating which ones or any literature, except vit C which we all know by now it plentiful in meat and organs. Most all vegetables (now a days) are not healthy
1 year plant-free carnivore here. Resolved all my digestive issues including GERD and put my Crohn's into remisson. Currently meds free.
Glad to hear that. Congrats
I did carnivore for 30 days a years ago and I felt and looked amazing, no other way of eating made me feel so good and I do suffer from autoimmune conditions. I've recently begun my transition back to carnivore , so if the same result come about I'm sticking with this lifestyle. I really don't want to feel like crap anymore, that is not a way to live.
Carnivore is the best because that's what humans evolved to eat.
Most people feel like dog poop for the first three weeks while going through Ketosis. You were one lucky person.
@@rongarris8574 most people? Sometimes some people was one out of 100 and it becomes most people. That is how it works.
The transition from Keto to carnivore is easier, it may take over a month, sometimes several months to know for sure if it’s good for each person.
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 Did you even watch the video??
@@shirleyinnes6821 Yes I did have you watched Bart Kay?
They've obviously never tried it themselves neither have they observed those who have
Thanks for sharing
I’ve been on it three months went from depressed hopeless and weak to happy strong and confident. I haven’t felt so good since I was in 11th grade and I’m 34 now. The benefits I’ve gained are too many to list but I’ll admit I said the same thing as you when I heard about only meat. But I trust the way I feel and what the mirror shows me over my own preconceived notions.
I ended an 8 month long digestive problem- all the doctor visits, tests, prescriptions and travel resulted zero. 3-1/2 days - meat and eggs and water- fixed it. I was so grateful to find help.
Me too
Come back in 30 years and give us a report then. Three and a half days means nada.
Good luck
It wasn't the meat that helped you, it was the elimination of something else in your diet. Fasting you would have given you the same results.
@@TalkingWithDocsyou two need to say, “that’s awesome! We will look into carnivore more and review Dr. Berry, Dr. Baker, and Dr. Chaffee’s videos to keep an open mind about this human ancestral way of eating. Our medical training must have misinformed us in med school! We will go study up on this topic!”
Been on a carnivore diet 3 years and feel great and all my stomach issues have disappeared, theres no nutrients your body can't get as long as you consume organ meats on occasions
Excuse me while I LMAO.
Glad to hear that. We would whoke heartedly disagree with your last statement. We do wish you the best of luck though
Remember this video is a paid advertisement and sponsored by big pharma and the makers of the food pyramid! Their efforts have greatly improved the lives of all humans globally😊
How long it took your body to adjust to the carnivore diet, i think I have one problem I can’t give up coffe and I don’t think the coffe loves me back 🥹🥹
Many people like Doctor Berry have done the PHD (proper human diet) for several years and have great blood work! So, it seems to be very sustainable. You are correct we can get all the vitamins and minerals our bodies need from eating all meat when you include the liver and heart.When we are not running off pure carbs and sugar, our body requires far less vitamins like vitamin C! Not to mention... for carb and sugar eaters, their bodies are unable to absorb Vitamin C as well, no matter how much chomping they do on vegetables and fruit.
You need to have Dr Berry join you to have an open discussion about this…🤷🏻♀️
I agree. It would be most interesting.
Ditto 👍🏼
Dr. BERRY would destroy these misinformed "doctors "!
I find that most anti-carnivore folks don’t want to invite him.
😂
Do you actually think they are brave enough?
Glad I’m watching this video after healing my body and regaining my six pack abs rather than before. I was ignorant enough then that you guys may have convinced me to stay weak and ignorant.
Stay strong and meaty. Way to go
carnivor did great things on me. i mean, i cant find anything negative to say about it.
You just said in your other post you eat carbs. Which is it?
@@TalkingWithDocs i dont know why i should go back to carbs for now. im burning fat and i like it that way. but here and there i eat some. like once in a month... one meal with familly. thing is that i lost 30pounds and it stays there, i dont have any low energy. kinda stable. one meal a day in general.
@@erikrobillard6950 But if u dont eat fiber you will be constipated. right????? 😆
@@isma3il2005 i dont, im honest. in fact i dont go there very often but when i go 👌 😄
Food research is funded by large companies. And they do not fund something that is not beneficial to their sales! Carnivore is against the sales of cereals, candies, energy drinks etc. etc. and, therefore, carnivore research is not funded unless the reserch can make carnivore look bad.
Hmmm who sells the meat? Hilarious
Why are so.... many people healed from chronic illness and autoimmune disease following the carnivore lifestyle 🤷♀️ Hundreds of testimonials. Maybe not for everyone but definitely for those who need it ❤🇦🇺
So the testimonials are for very short term due to the elimination of so many things. The concern is long term this is clearly not healthy. Obviously up to you or whoever else wants to eat this way but this diet will not age well. Guaranteed
@@TalkingWithDocsso with no long term studies yet, supposedly, how can you truthfully say this way of eating is unhealthy long term?
@@ribeyemanster my guess is one or the other is vegan or vegetarian and has some bias he isn't making known.
@@ribeyemanster You can't with certainty but we do know from many studies that elevated cholesterol is not healthy in the long term. We also know that elevated animal based protein strongly stimulates IGF-1/leptin which is linked to cancer. We also know that animal based does not supply various plant phyto-nutrients and other anti cancer compounds. Cooking meat (which most people do) destroys the enzyme complement critical for proper digestion and creates a variety of toxic/cancer causing compounds. As well, with a lack of fiber the critical microbiome will suffer creating leaky gut which can promote autoimmune and immune dysfunction issues. Good studies need to be done between a junk food diet, raw/organic plant based and animal based to get a full picture but based on what we do know so far about large consumption of animal products I suspect this is not the way to go long term.
@@TalkingWithDocs BS
Interesting video, I can only speak from a personal point of view but the keto/carnivore lifestyle has been a game changer - totally off meds and not see you guys face to face for years.
Best of luck to you
@@TalkingWithDocs Continues with your arrogance!!
@@TalkingWithDocs good luck to you, you are gonna need it considering how much knowledge you lack.
@@TalkingWithDocsyou need to go relearn nutrition from Dr. Baker, Dr. Chaffee, and Dr. Berry! You are degrading your image as doctors. So sad.
Carnivore (6 months now) works brilliantly for me when nothing else has.
Good luck
6:46 Studies. There are *ZERO* randomized controlled interventional long term studies of *ANY* diet as regards long term health outcomes! They cannot be done! They would require test subjects to be in metabolic lock-down from birth to death under constant supervision. They are not ethical and would be far too expensive (not to mention you couldn't get subjects to agree to that). What we are left with are retrospective and prospective cohort studies which rely on food frequency questionnaires, are associative by their very nature, are muddied by numerous confounders, and the results are buried in the signal to noise ratio.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. We agree no trials. Too hard to run. But there is nothing on carnivore. Anyway the benefit comes from elimination of the crap from the SAD. Glad it works for some. Everyone will do what makes them happy. Thanks for watching.
I went Keto/Low Carb, sometimes Carnivore 5 years ago and lost 150lbs. My lipids are: Total Cholesterol = 169, Triglycerides = 42,
HDL = 64, VLDL = 9, LDL = 96. I’m 62 years old and needed my congenitally defective Aortic Valve replaced last year, and thank God I lost 150lbs. I eat Whole Foods. I do not eat “Keto labeled” foods from the supermarket. I eat nothing processed. I even make my own Mayo from Avocado Oil. I only use Avocado Oil, Coconut Oil, & Olive Oil. I don’t have scurvy. I’ll eat cabbage, broccoli, green beans, and my blood sugar never goes above 130. I had a colonoscopy 9 months ago and I had 4 polyps removed, but all benign. I recovered just fine from OHS by eating Keto. I’m also unvaccinated and never caught Covid. I’m 62 years old, in the greatest shape of my life, and weigh 170lbs at 5’11”.
Congrats.
@@TalkingWithDocsmore reports of healing on carnivore! Love it! Go teach yourselves on nutrition!
Doctors telling you that you shouldn’t eat a diet that humans have been eating for hundreds of thousands of years?
Hmm not sure what humans you are talking about. Maybe check the history books and see that humans have always been omnivores. Sorry. What schools are these people attending teaching this stuff?
Well, the bottom line is that for every 2 doctors like you two guys, you can find 10 more doctors online that will empatheticly declare that not only is Carnivore Diet safe but it is NECESSARY!
Bottom line: everybody is an experiment of one. Find out what works best for you.
Hey whatever works for you. Yeah there are lots of doctors saying a lot of stuff on the internet. Careful what they are selling you that's all. Good luck.
It has healed my stomach, made my skin condition go away. I'm sleeping better. Carnivore for me.
I agree it is very good for some people .
Good luck
@@TalkingWithDocs just so you know, I've lost weight both as a vegetarian and carnivore. I've kept the weight off. Carnivore a little easier at this point in life. I don't plan to stay on it long term. I'll probably switch to ketovore.
Q. How can you tell if your traditionally trained medical doctor has given you incorrect information about nutrition?
A. They have opened their mouth and sound has come out.
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Red flags If a doctor says “balanced” “eat fiber” “eat veggies and fruit and no meat no saturated fat” or “follow food pyramid” “rainbow on your plate” “lean chicken breast” “vegan vegetarian” “you need pills” “your prescription” “high cholesterol isn’t good” then you need a new doctor! You are cruising for illnesses, diseases, and cancers and surgeries in the future! They want that as it makes them money and secures their job in life!
@@TalkingWithDocsthey are referring to you.
We didn't say eat no meat. We are confused what this group has against fruits and vegetables.
Almost 4 years carnivorish. CKD from stage 3b to normal. HbA2c from 8.9 to 5.1. 198# to 143#. So many other things fixed I can't remember them all. Lots of myths in this video...
What does carnivorish mean? Not totally carnivore?
Ketovore
@@youthrevisitedagain 98% meat/fat/eggs. Occasionally some nuts or avocado. I'm not religious about it, but I don't eat foods that upset me. Ketovores eat more vegetables -- they give me trouble.
And one persons bloodwork doesn't make it healthy. Don't you wonder why there is no research about it? Just a bunch of talking heads selling books and supplements
@@TalkingWithDocsno I don't really wonder why no major pharmaceutical or food company has funded research for it yet. Even if they did they could just throw out the results right?
I've been on the carnivore diet for 3 months and Lost 30 pounds. I was taking 360 mg blood pressure pill every day down to 20 mg . My ankle stop hurting my knees stop hurting.
It does help a lot to get rid of the sugar, refined carbs and processed foods if you are a strict carnivore. Great job
@@TalkingWithDocs and all the toxins in plant foods as well, Great job!
Well we could certainly debate the toxin argument in plants. That has been debunked with proper research. Plants have been shown to slow or even halt cancer growth where animals proteins have accelerated. Kind of like the milk argument that it's healthy when so many are lactose intolerant. No mammal drinks another mammals baby formula except humans. We suspect carnivores love their milk. At any rate everyone has to do what works for them. This diet is not for everyone and likely not for most.
@@TalkingWithDocs Wow! Repeated vegans bs... This "doctors" are really something (bad)...
Go speak to the carnivore community. Constipation is not an issue in 99% of people.
You don't necessarily go daily, because you absorb more food (less waste)
Also glucose and vitC use the same receptors. Without glucose in the body, the same receptors for vitamin C won’t have to fight off glucose from the bloodstream in order to nourish the rest of the body. You get small amounts of vitC in fresh meat and organs .. enough for the body to use. You don't see scurvy in modern carnivores (Sailors who got scurvy ate hardtack, grog and preserved meat )
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Good luck!
Before they joined the modern world, the Inuit people only lived on fish, meat and blubber. No known incidents of cancer or heart disease! 🤔
That's not true. Lifespan 60. Cancer and cardiovascular disease unfortunately
Our ancestors had a lower median life span because of environmental dangers and the lack of modern medicine, not because they are too much fatty meats haha. Factor in how many children and mothers died during child birth or how many broke a leg or cut themselves and died. Think how many times you would have died wirhout modern medicine?
Meanwhile you dont have to wear scrubs to look at the data we have. As plant matter consumption has gone up so has the rates of diabetes, cancer and heart diease. The average American has a diet that is over 70% plant based and they are sicker than ever.
You also made the fallacy of assuming that because food was scarce our ancestors didn't eat optimally. You could as easyisly assume when food was scarce or they failed at a hunt they became foragers and ate plant matter out of necessity to survive. And given most people would naturally pick a steak over and handful of leafy veg it seems more likely to me. You said it yourself. You had to force your kids to eat veg cos they naturally dont want to. You put beef or chicken in front of a child and they will yum it up.
Finally id say this idea of "balanced" is nonsense. They is nothing inherently good about a balanced diet, I believe it was a marketing slogan. You need to eat a species appropriate diet. A cow doesnt have a balanced diet.
Over 84% of vegans quit. 90% of those cite catestrophic health failure. Meanwhile your comments section below is overflowing with peoole who have come off all meds and healed themselves on carnivore. Your balanced diet logic is "well you need to cut down on the stuff that healed you and add in a load of the stuff that makes almost everyone ill weak and sickly". Not logical
Ah so much wrong with this video im going to end up writing an essay. Understanding of calories and CICO is false its also not the reason people lose weight on keto. statements about cholesterol are wildly wrong, youre not "making too much of it".
Vitamin c statement is wrong. You require a very small amount and it is found in muscle meat. Never heard of a single genuine case of scurvy. Kelly Hogan been on carnivore 13 years l, there are people in the online community who have been on it over 40 years and no scury. It takes weeks to develop. Not a life time.
Sat fat isnt linked to heart disease.
There are a lot of weasel words in here. "May lead" or "could lead". Meaningless. Eating veg may lead to you looking like Dr Greger
Thanks so much for taking the time to leave your comments. We didn't mean to make anyone angry by suggesting eating fruits and vegetables. We aren't selling anything like so many of the TH-cam carnivores. We will respond to a couple things. We are in scrubs because we film before the OR. We are busy and this isn't our job. We don't do it for the money. We have no sponsors. We are only trying to help people.
As for vitamin C there is some in muscle meat but unless you are eating it raw it typically would be broken down with the heat of cooking because it's water soluble. Organ meat is a better choice for that reason.
Regardless of how inconvenient it is, decades of scientific research that is peer reviewed and published shows saturated fat tied to heart disease and cancer.
What you eat is up to you. We are just trying to help people be healthy. No need to name call or try to shame us for that. All the best to you.
Oh and if you have data to prove any of your claims please forward as we are open minded and always trying to learn and expand our knowledge. Especially the 90 percent of vegans have "catastrophic" health consequences. We didn't tell anyone to be vegan. But plants have many anti cancer, anti aging and disease fighting properties that an all meat diet would prevent you from benefiting from. Looking forward to it. Thanks again for reaching out and sharing
@@TalkingWithDocs I can provide as much data as you did in the video. A lot of what a state were just counter statements. That's the point. Just throwing out words like "may do" or "could cause" isn't useful either way.
But there are plenty of studies on cholesterol and sat fat now. There was another recently from RCSI. Plenty have come out of Australian academia recently if you care to research. Statins do not increase your life expectancy. Where are the wards of heart patients on carnivore diet?
The vitamin c statement is a fact, meat does contain it. It's found in meat and we don't require very much, as a carnivore diet is high in hydroxyproline and hydroxylysine. It's also demonstrable that there isn't an epidemic of scurvy amongst the carnivore community . You made the claim that the carnivore diet causes it so the burden is on you to provide evidence, which again you didn't.
The vegan stats come from the humane research council. Even so you're asking people to discount reality. I look online at vegan influencers and they almost all look Ill weak and aged and I'm not sure I've seen a vegan with healthy skin.
I look at carnivore and they almost all look younger than their age, healthy and strong.
Perhaps not scientific but if youre going to tell people to ignore all that observable evidence you need to come with some hard scientific facts, not "maybes" and "could bes".
If you want more studies on the negative effects of plant based diet dr mason can provide. There have been zero controlled studies to show the benefit of a plant based diet...in fact it's impossible to do so, both for plant and meat based.
I don't know if you two lads are nutritionists or your doctorate is in the field of nutrition but it does not sound like it. One thing in the scientific field is that it's incredibly focused and specialised . Once you wonder out of your field it is easy to make false assumptions and claims. A climatologist , for example, should not be making claims that pertain to meteorology .
Again thanks for sharing your thoughts. We appreciate your passion for your lifestyle choice. We did not intend to offend just wanted our viewers to know that there are still benefits to eating fruits and vegetables.
Three years on carnivore, feel great, no constipation, high LDL, high HGL, low triglycerides. Higher muscle mass.
Nice work
@@TalkingWithDocs key word is WORK, which the carnivore diet does lol
Age 60 female on HRT since Sept 22.... I'm down 35lbs since I started dirty carnivore Jan 23! I'm no longer prediabetic and my cholesterol is in the "normal" range for the first time in 20yrs.
I say dirty carnivore because I don't hesitate to eat vegetables... Especially if I'm hankering for something. But day to day I mostly eat grass fed ribeye. I've had my vitamin levels checked and so far so good. I think the key is to test test test!! I'm blessed I can afford to do that. OH I feel great too! Zero aches and pains and energy is like I'm in my 20s again. All upper and lower digestive issues resolved....I hardly ever even fart!! 🤭
I'm thinking 6 more months of strick carnivore most days to adding veggies everyday. But again... Test test test!!❤
Test what??
@@sassysandie2865As you add foods back in, “test” to see how you feel & how those foods are impacting you (ex: food intolerances & allergies)
@@sassysandie2865 cholesterol levels... Vitamins... A1C etc
@theflamboyantgrandma1890 Congrats and on behalf of everyone, thanks for the reduced farting ! 😁
Thanks for sharing. Good luck
Carnivore diet is the best I never had constipation, when I was plant-based that's when I had digestion problems. And plants most certainly have anti-nutrients.
Oh please stop with the anti nutrients! Good luck
@@TalkingWithDocsso you consider yourself experts in nutrition but don't even know the compounds that exist in food? Absolutely fascinating.
@@odhinnswrath these doctors are a great example of reasons why Americans are so ignorant as well as unhealthy.
Changing my diet saved me from debilitating back pain, nerve pain, joint pain, muscle pain, digestive issues, raised blood pressure, 20kg over weight. It took around 8 months for all these problems to resolve. Since 2020 I've been completely pain free and never felt and looked healthier.
I'm only eating fatty meats, seafood, eggs and dairy.
Prior to that I was eating the mainstream version of a healthy diet (lots of veggies, fruit, whole grains, low fat, eating the rainbow etc) for decades and watching my health slowly decline.
I recommend searching for this peer-reviewed scientific article, it shows how 2,029 people had amazing results on the carnivore diet it's called "Behavioral Characteristics and Self-Reported Health Status among
2029 Adults Consuming a “Carnivore Diet”".
Yes saw that. Self reported social media survey. Come on. If Pharma used "studies" like this what would you say then. Hey eat whatever you want. Just don't try to tell someone else it's healthy. All the best.
@@TalkingWithDocs if it's not healthy how do you explain so many people having amazing health improvements on this way of eating?
Trust these 2 doctors....yeah about as far as I could throw them! A couple of quacks working for Pfizer! They should be ashamed of themselves!
@nicolasgirard2808 the carnivore diet seems to have all the benefits of fasting and the longer you do it the better you feel, I'm amazed at how good I feel after 3.5 years of eating this way.
@nicolasgirard2808 for the first year if I ate off the diet my symptoms would return, especially hip joint pain, I seem to have healed and now I'd just not feel as good. I love the food I'm eating and feeling great so no desire to change.
Seems like the results of all these commentators should speak highly for CARNIVORE. I think these doctors are out of touch with reality.
Yeah you're right. Decades of research must be wrong but the wave of TH-camrs promoting carnivore is the right way to get healthy. As we said in the video the reason this works is because it gets rid of a lot of bad stuff from the standard American diet which is trash. Like sugar. Refined grains. And processed foods. Meat has never been shown to cure anything. It doesn't mean you can't eat it but it is not the panacea for healthy living. That is so obvious
What makes your medical degree and knowledge so much more informed than all the doctors, nutritionists, and health coaches that promote the Carnivore diet?... they are not making money, except for a few products they promote on their TH-cam sites, unlike the food industries, big pharma, the medical professions, and unreliable researchers that all make huge sums deceiving the public about nutrition.
Thanks for sharing your views. They are in fact making a lot of money. So is the meat industry who is promoting this. We are simply reporting that there is no evidence that this is a healthy way to eat. The elimination of sugar and refined carbs and processed food is certainly beneficial. You can eat whatever you want. We have nothing to gain or sell regardless of how you eat. But we do care about people's health. All the best
@@TalkingWithDocs They are reporting that there's no evidence that this is a healthy way to eat despite all the people that have been telling you they feel better and have gotten better from many aliments they shut out what they just don't wanna hear which is the evidence.
Notice how they say' we are just simple reporting that there is no evidence that it is a healthy way to eat' while the title of the video is 'the carnivore diet why you should NOT do it". And that they only bothered to present, poorly, the possible harms. and fail to mentions anything resembling a comprehensive account of the arguments for it. Seems disingenuous to me.
This comment section is amazing.
Yes it's interesting for sure. People have VERY strong opinions and no shame about hurling the insults
Malnutrition is not possible. All animal prduce contain everything we need. Ask me. I've lived this way for over three decades and I'm seventy-two now. I'm perfectly healthy and, (in case you don't know it,) I'm still alive.
Thanks for sharing
Well, I've only been a carnivore for thirty-two years since my immunologist took me off all the other foods on the shelves and in the supermarket. It's the best thing that ever happened to me. So when you doctors learn about nutrition, come back.
Wow that's amazing. Someone should write you up in a journal if you have only are animal products and nothing else for 32 years. Everyone is different for sure.
@@TalkingWithDocs If everyone is different how can you give blanket advice in the video then?
The rule is, if you wear the outfit and read the headlines of studies then your good to go 😆
It is generic advice. That's what general health information has to be based on the body of literature thus far. Not speculation on what might be.
@@TalkingWithDocs Well, does your claim that the lack of fiber may cause constipation on a carnivore diet, or that carnivore diets cause scurvy qualify as speculation? Because unless there is a RCT establishing those two statements then its theoretical speculation, correct? If those studies exist than I stand corrected.
A study by Ogilvie et al. (2022) found that vegetarians, vegans, and others who eschew meat "show a lower bone mineral density," and "vegans consistently have higher risk of fracture at multiple bone sites, especially at the hip."
A study by Simeone et al. (2022) looking at infants between 4-18 months of age on a macrobiotic diet free of animal protein found a "significantly higher risk [...] of skin and muscle wasting in 30% of macrobiotic infants compared with 2% of the controls" as well as "a higher prevalence of children with inadequate growth [...] with insufficient energy and long-term nutrient intake, or classified as wasted, with severe malnutrition," observed in nearly 8% of vegetarian/vegan children compared to only 0.6% of omnivorous children.
Perhaps equally shocking, it was found that "babies in the macrobiotic diet group reached independent walking on average 3 months later" than omnivorous diet babies (Dagnelie et al. 1994).
After researching and analyzing multiple different studies, Simeone et al. (2022) quite definitively concludes:
"...the case reports are all consistent in demonstrating severe neurological outcomes and growth deficits in children on a vegan diet, due to low vitamin B12 and vitamin D levels, with anemia, stunting, brain abnormalities and demyelination. The children with vitamin B12 deficiency all had psychomotor developmental deficits or neurological symptoms, some even anemia. In one case, in addition to psychomotor regression, four bone fractures were found due to nutritional rickets. The reason was prolonged breastfeeding from a vegetarian mother followed by a vegan diet for the infant after weaning. [...] in diets without meat, fish and meat products, the most critically deficient nutrient is vitamin B12, but deficiencies in calcium, iron, iodine, zinc, and selenium, essential amino acids, ω-3 LC-PUFAs (EPA and DHA) and vitamins (riboflavin, vitamin D) may also occur. […] Finally, although vegetarian diets are often recommended as a prevention tool for overweight and obesity, […] the meta-analysis of the results found no protective effect of vegetarian diets in the early years of life."
A 2021 study found "recent epidemiological studies suggest that higher consumption of ultra-processed food is associated with increased risk of cardiovascular disease (CVD). […] Research ranging from laboratory-based to prospective epidemiological studies and experimental evidence suggest that ultra-processed foods may affect cardiometabolic health through a myriad of mechanisms, beyond the traditionally recognized individual nutrients. Processing induces significant changes to the food matrix, for which ultra-processed foods may affect health outcomes differently than unrefined whole foods with similar nutritional composition. Notably, the highly degraded physical structure of ultra-processed foods may affect cardiometabolic health by influencing absorption kinetics, satiety, glycemic response, and the gut microbiota composition and function. Food additives and neo-formed contaminants produced during processing may also play a role in CVD risk. Key biological pathways include altered serum lipid concentrations, modified gut microbiota and host-microbiota interactions, obesity, inflammation, oxidative stress, dysglycemia, insulin resistance, and hypertension." (Juul et al., 2021)
Lending further credibility to this link are the findings of Lee et al., (2022) which state “Processed and ultra-processed foods increased from 60% of foods” between 1800 to 2019, and that “non-communicable diseases rose over the twentieth century in parallel with increased consumption of processed foods, including sugar, refined flour and rice, and vegetable oils. Saturated fats from animal sources were inversely correlated with the prevalence of NCDs.” (Lee et al., 2022) The data suggests consumption of meat promotes health, counteracts obesity, and is correlated with far fewer diseases than carb-laden, processed plant foods.
Oxalates are an organic compound commonly found in many plants, including leafy greens, vegetables, fruits, cocoa, nuts, and seeds. Though it has beneficial functions in plants (such as binding excess calcium which would otherwise hinder sunlight absorption) the effects of oxalate in humans is a very different story.
It has been found to cause:
Autoimmune conditions
Thyroid conditions
Gut Inflammation
Kidney Stones
Chronic Pain
Localized Irritation
Chronic Inflammation
Impairment of normal functions
and a whole host of other less well-known diseases.
Thanks for sharing so many studies taken out of context on a regular basis by the meat industry. We didnt see the abundance of meat research showings it's health promoting benefits. Obviously what you eat is up to you. This isn't an opinion piece. It's fact based. Best of luck.
@@TalkingWithDocs What context were these studies taken out of? In what way does that context invalidate the results? And in what way is this different to the studies taken out of context on a regular basis by the plant-based industry?
Or should we simply be trusting studies like the Food Compass, a "nutrition profiling system using expanded characteristics for assessing healthfulness of foods" a project heavily funded by Bill Gates and authored by Nutrition Advisor to the White House, Dr. Mozaffarian, which states Almond M&Ms and Ice Cream Cones with Nuts are healthier than Ground Beef or Cheddar Cheese, Canned Pineapple in Heavy Syrup and Lucky Charms are healthier than a Boiled or Poached Egg and Whole Milk, and Frosted Mini Wheats, Chocolate Covered Almonds, and Honey Nut Cheerios are healthier than Skinless Chicken Breast and Whole Eggs?
It sure would behoove medical practitioners to stop acting as though they alone are the arbiters of what is opinion and what is fact. So much damage has been done to your profession because of individuals with this exact mentality.
@@smexijebusgreat response because you're exactly right on every point. These guys should leave the slapstick to the professionals!
I watched Mutual of Omaha Saturdays after all the cartoons in the morning. I did the carnivore diet for a full month, and I have dropped 40lbs and my leaky gut has cured up. I am currently eating eggs meat & cheese along with some fruit and veggies, and still losing weight and have no gut issues. My hair and skin are healthier, I guess I'm a carbaholic which was causing many health issues so I will continue with it because I am seeing positive results.
Getting rid of the sugar, refined carbs and processed foods goes as a long way
Calling it 'restrictive' is your own mental hurdle, there's nothing inherently wrong with doing carnivore. I'm more of meat-heavy keto, but I've never been one for sweets and I tried out nuts and didn't like them. It's a great tool for people and it is most definitely sustainable.
Thanks for sharing. It is called restrictive because it restricts anything that isn't animal based. It is simply a descriptive term. All the best
"restrictive" can be a matter of perspective.
If you look at it as freeing yourself from unhealthy foods, you don't see it as restrictive.
If you look at it as eating fewer of the things you used to, it may feel restrictive.
Sustainable???! Lol
These honest doctors are telling the truth. It's up to you and your brainwashed perspective if you wish to listen or not.
@@dougprw1110 and why isn't it?
Absolutely love you guys, however there are just too many people having amazing results from this way of eating. Maybe it shouldn't be a long term diet - but maybe it is a wonderful way to help people get to a healthier place. There are quite a few people who have been doing this for years, and seem to be very healthy.
I've been doing it for a month, and feel so much better. My husband was curious, but then said it was too restrictive. He went to his pre op appointment for an upcoming surgery and told them about his wife's crazy diet. Amazingly the doctor said it was a great diet to do before the surgery and that he wished all his patients would do it. Amazing! In just a week so much of his inflammation is gone. A significant difference. He says he feels so much better. Hopefully the surgery will go well.
(Constipation is not an issue...)
The benefits are from reducing and eliminating sugar, refined carbs and processed food. It's not the meat.
Carnivore eliminated plant based foods which are toxic! That’s why it works! You can’t add plant based mess back in or problems start up because plants are naturally toxic! Carnivore is a permanent life style if you don’t want illnesses, diseases, cancers: or any surgeries!
@@TalkingWithDocsall plant based foods have sugars. It’s called photosynthesis! Guess you need to learn that too!!
I never went fully carnivore, but on a high protein, high fat, low carb (under 50g/day) diet, coupled with vigorous (but not excessive) workouts 6 days a week, I was in the best health of my life at age 50 (LDL 60, HDL 60, Total cholesterol 132, Triglycerides 31, blood pressure under great control). For various reasons, I fell off the low-carb wagon, but have been back on for several months now, and my numbers are returning to those I had at 50.
Congrats
@@TalkingWithDocsmore positive! Good! Now go educate yourselves on the proper human diet- carnivore!
I love you guys but after a year on the carnivore diet I am no longer on bp medicine and all of my blood levels are at or near perfect according to my doctor. I feel like I’m living proof as to why you’re wrong.
Yes but you don’t know the long term effects.
Were you truly in ketosis and monitoring that? Were you in a significant caloric deficit throughout you weight loss?
@@sassysandie2865 it has to be better than having high blood pressure and scary blood levels. Lol
@@ksharpe8137 well most weight loss diets will bring better numbers. Any diet eliminates certain foods and then a drop in calories thus weight loss. I would still have to see the,long term studies. It’s not looking so good for Inuits and they eat a lot of meat and fat. There are healthy and unhealthy vegans and carnivores. Our country isn’t looking so healthy these days.
@@sassysandie2865 There are many, many multi decade carnivores out there.
well i had a triple bypass 7 months ago . Did not have cholesterol no diabetes and not obese . (178 cm height 77 kilos ) I was not eating meat (only 1 time a week ) mostly legumes pasta vegetables rice potatoes and sweets since i was not fat . My cardio surgent said to me . I am a surgeon for 25 years . From my experience cholesterol is not a fact on heart problems . Half the people have cholesterol the other half don't . I would advise you to stop sugar and eliminate carbs and starch to 20% of your daily intake , And the rest 80% out of meat , fish, olive oil avocados vegetables and eat only 2 times a day .
Yea for sure eliminating sugar and refined carbs. They are a big part of the problem. Hope you are ok
Well, I suggest that you limit carbohydrates to less than 20 grams and stay away from oil of any kind as they tend to become oxidized very easily.
Well that can be easily done outside a carnivore diet.
Let's fear the standard American diet. Let's fear obesity, smoking, alcohol, soda pop,.....never fear meat, eggs, seafood, dairy,.....for some people with MS, epilepsy, autoimmune,... carnivore may hold the key to life. True no RCT'S but that is the same with a major portion of medications and foods.
We agree with the first part. We can agree to disagree about the second half. All the best
@@TalkingWithDocs But the later statement is objectively verifiable.
I have to wonder where you got your facts. Constipation is not a problem. I don't poop as much or as often on carnivore. Why? I actually absorb the nutrients in the food instead of pooping them out. I used to take a basket full of medications to fix all the problems i had. None of it worked. The carnivore diet did. The medicine went in the trashcan.
Thanks for sharing. Best of luck to you
Once they say scurvy you know they don’t know what they are talking about.
This is what education and not understanding looks like. Book smarts only.
Thanks for sharing your opinion. Not sure which part you disagree with. Meat has no vitamin C and if on a truly carnivore diet this can be the outcome over time. This is rare. We honestly don't care id you are carnivore but don't try and tell anyone it's healthy.
@@TalkingWithDocs Show me a carnivore with scurvy. Bet you can't find one.
@@TalkingWithDocs lol meat does have vitamin C you’re woefully ignorant.
@@TalkingWithDocs Similarly, we don't care but don't tell anyone its unhealthy, without good evidence.
Thousands of successful carnivores would disagree with you.
PS: high cholesterol levels DO NOT cause heart disease! You guys are dinosaurs!
Seriously not even sure where to start. Good luck to you
I'd like to see studies that high cholesterol causes heart disease. Could it be high insulin, high trigs, high glucose, viseral fat, etc? Wouldn't a CAC test show risk better than simply high cholesterol? If the CAC score is zero but cholesterol high, low trigs, normal HDL, low insulin and glucose are you still at risk?
Not on carnivore just yet but I’m on the Lion Diet and it’s been the best thing for me. All my nutrients and bloodwork came back very much improved and off of allergy meds. Every time I eat vegetables I get super inflamed!!! Might need to do more studies and research. My calories went up and I lost 47 pounds so far. I didn’t eat a lot of sweets or carbs to begin with so it wasn’t hard.
Nice work. Didn't even know we shared that much DNA similarity with the lions. Hear me roar!
Two very nice guys but they are so wrong they just repeating what they where taught that is wrong.
Thanks for watching and taking the time to share your opinion
Nonsense spoken by people in blue coats does not make that nonsense fact.
Sorry if we have offended you by suggesting that people should eat fruits and vegetables. We aren't saying people can't eat meat but the benefits of eating some plants can't be denied. Eliminating the sugar, refined carbs and processed food of the SAD is so critical which this way of eating does and explains many of the benefits. Again sorry if we offended that was not our intention. Just to help educate so people can make informed decisions
@@TalkingWithDocs Ok, so what benefits of eating plants? Why do 'you think we are not carnivores? (Or maybe you think that we are scavengers, ok. Yes, that could be right, our stomach pH is cca 1.5, like hyena or vulture has.) Food security doesn't mean an evidence against carnivore diet. How we as a humans can survive so long if our primal diet (meat and animal fat) would be deficient in any essential nutrients and vitamins? I don't want to comment that cholesterol bs based on "solid" epidemiological research... Extracted compounds from plants in laboratory is something totally different than eating them in plants. And please, google something about anti-nutrients in plants...
Approx 54% of human breast milk is saturated fat... so women shouldn't breast feed!? 🤦
Well if you must ask babies need a very large amount of calories to grow into infants so their requirements are very different than older children and adults. We aren't aware of any societies where breast milk is consumed beyond the age of 1 or 2. Maybe we are misinformed.
@@TalkingWithDocs And then replace the saturated fat at 1 to 2 years old with what!? They are still growing and will do till they are an adult. Yes you have been misinformed, most probably from the out dated unreliable data from the 70s. You both bumbled along without giving any real scientific evidence to back your claims, most probably because there isn't any reliable concrete evidence out there.
@@TalkingWithDocs Oh yeah! Babies growing from calories! So big nonsence in just one sentence!
It took me around three months to go from looking like you guys to looking like Tarzan and feeling like Superman. Good luck with being weak.
Thanks for watching and sharing your transformation story.
Day 35 Carnivore.... it completely and instantly resolved my SIRVA - shoulder injury from the c19 vaccine. Whoohoo. Life is short, eat steak!!!
Awesome
I don't know what your specialities are. Are you two doctors experts in nutrition, human physiology, biochemistry/biochemical pathways and bioenergetics?
If not then I will respectfully say that you are talking about a subject that's completely out of your field of expertise. You two should do much more unbiased research before influencing others considering your online reach (it is irresponsible). You clearly have a bias as your lack of knowledge about the carnivore, the keto diet and most importantly on physiology/bioenergetics is obvious. You lost me completely the moment you said "when you eat a diet that's restrictive regardless of what it is, chances are your calories are going to go down". Do you guys understand what a calorie is? That's shockingly ignorant coming from two doctors. I'm sure you are good in your respective field of expertise but you certainly missed the mark completely with that presentation.
I am asking as I DO have a level of expertise on the matter and as such cannot agree with the core of what you are saying. I just finished another debated on another channel and don't have much time right now. I'll try and get back to this another time. Suffice to say for now that real unbiased science clearly demonstrates that the carnivore or ketogenic diet is absolutely NOT restrictive and are actually among the healthiest diets you could have. Science is not a "one size fits all" concept so people should pay attention to what works best for them. For instance I know many who do better on a bit of non-starchy vegetables (e.g. sauerkraut..good source of k2) along with their carnivore/keto lifestyle (better bowel movement for example). But also note that fibre can be a problem for a huge proportion of people with IBS/IBD. Having said that, I absolutely do NOT support vegetarianism and veganisms for scientific and health reasons as they have a strong impact on insulin resistance/pre-diabetes/type2 diabetes, inflammation, hormonal imbalance (due to low consumption of healthy animal fats), autoimmune disease, fatty liver disease (including juvenile NAFL and NASH), plant toxicity (oxalates, phytates and lectins), mitochondrial damage/cancer through glycation/production of reactive oxygen species or free radicals among other things, nutritional deficiencies (DHA/EPA (only a small percentage of ALA from plants gets converted),B12, amino acid deficiencies such as methionine, lysine, leucine among others depending on what you are eating). A meat based diet is more bio available and more complete. I also suggest you brush up on your paleopathology. That's a crude summary. I can't elaborate further for now. You cannot possibly put veganism and carnivore or keto in the same "extreme and unhealthy" category. That is pure IGNORANCE. So to you two doctors I say DO BETTER.
Thanks so much for sharing and yes we did not mean to offend by suggesting people eat vegetables and fruit in addition to the meat. Not our intention. Please share your background and level of expertise as we are always interested to learn from others. This isn't our job. We are not selling anything or getting rich from it like so many others in TH-cam and elsewhere. Where did you go to school and graduate from and in what discipline? Also we would love to read the unbiased science that proves carnivore diet is healthy. We just couldn't find it. Provide a link and we will definitely check it out. And yes keto has many benefits. It is very different than carnivore. Reducing sugar, processed foods and refined grains will help any diet be better than the SAD. That's like comparing it to a diet of Fruit Loops. So many people eat garbage so if you eliminate those three it is such a good start to healthy living. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and we look forward to hearing your background, education and the data that shows carnivore is healthy. All the best
I've been 2 years carnivore , the best time of my life!! Super Energie!!
Amazing!
Why do you feel the need to present this video in full scrubs? Do you think it adds credibility? Or were your about to go into surgery?
Actually yes. We don't have a lot of extra time so film once a week at 7am before we operate. Hence the attire. Not intended to offend you
2020 started whole-food, plant-based only. Lost 75 lbs in less than a year. About 6 months later my gut so "Nope". Diarrhea for about 2 years and gained 20 lbs this past winter cause I went more SAD. Been on carnivore for a month and I got rid of my diarrhea. Losing about 1/2 lb a week. No energy. Aches and pains the same. Mental fog and naps. Having blood work done in a month and am very curious of the results. Last cholesterol 220 and BP 138/80.
Hope it works out
My terrible bloating gone. Blood sugar way down. Feel better. Will slowly add things back in in a couple months. Great elimination diet!
Yes that's why it works for a very short period
@@TalkingWithDocs it works for short and long periods of time actually. You can use all meat to heal your body to normal then go back to whatever you want or keep going and enjoying the benefits.
Carnivore is the human ancestral way of eating! Since we are talking about people curing things with carnivore diet- here is my story!
So everyone knows I am 46, turn 47 soon- but look like I am in my early 30’s. I am now 122lbs and 5’7”. I have done a zero carb carnivore diet for 9 months now. Before I was saved by the carnivore diet I was 165lbs (weight would continue to creep up since I was 40 years old.) And I had so many other issues that are now cured. One was i had fibrocystic issues before carnivore. It built up over a six year period of western / SAD diet. Doctors said it was normal, nothing we can do. “Part of aging and now normal.” Nope! Then I tried the Mediterranean scam grain diet for 6 months- made things worse and even put me into peri menopause and many other issues like cysts that got to be quarter size round, so painful! Fibrocystic masses too were big! I was fed up and decided to go dig and dig to see if anything would reverse this! Found Dr. Baker, Dr. Berry, and Dr. Chaffee with carnivore diet! Then found out cruciferous veggies can ruin your thyroid and prevent natural absorption of iodine found in foods! I had eaten lean skinless chicken breast (a half of one maybe once a day), rices, and broccoli for 6 years- age 40-46 and daily! I want ladies to know they need to avoid cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, cabbage, Brussel sprouts, asparagus, and cauliflower to prevent fibrocystic breasts- but plants in general cause it! Your body needs iodine for your lady organs and all other organs, but especially your thyroid! They really mess up the thyroid which messes up your hormones and causes all other issues! One big domino affect! I ask people to go watch Dr. Chaffee with Dr. Sally Norton on plant toxins! Fibrocystic breast issues are now what doctors have settled as “normal!” I truly feel it is considered an auto immune issue / plant toxic illness of inflammation that can be reversed with carnivore! If you look the rates of fibrocystic illnesses is drastically increasing- including breast cancer- and it’s posted on line that nobody knows what causes those! They tell people not to eat saturated fats! I eat fatty meats of beef and eggs- and 8 months on carnivore no more cysts and i have only one smaller fibrocystic mass left that is super small- continues to shrink- not the large mass it once was- shrinking drastically on carnivore diet!
Carnivore diet cured so much for me!
* No more perimenopause- completely reversed!
*Period cycles all timed perfect with 4 week intervals.And no PMS symptoms, but only the actual menstrual cycle itself!
*No more night sweats
*No more waking every 2 hours at night!
*It used to take me 20 minutes or longer to fall asleep at night when I would first go to bed at night- before carnivore. Now it takes like a minute or less. Haven’t noticed since I am out fast!
*No more life long eczema
*No more cold hands
*No more cold body temp in general! Used to feel like a reptile - only warm in texas sun.
*No more IBS symptoms (gas, bloating, stomach pain, constipation, diarrhea)
*No more feeling low energy by 12pm and zombie by 4pm
*No more purple looking hands in winter
*No more brain fog
*No more arthritis that I felt in hands, knees, and hips- or elbows
*Lost 45+ pounds from former baby weight and peri menopause weight.
*Always had 20/20 vision with slight stigmatism- but in March doctor said my stigmatism is reversing!
*Don’t sunburn as easily anymore and tan well.
*Wrinkles around eyes seem to be much less. I am 46 and look like I am in early 30’s.
*Gums look super healthy. Dentist seems irritated as my teeth are not dirty when cleaning every six months. Think they know they won’t make money off me.
*No more sore chest from monthly periods- no swelling feeling of fullness or discomfort that prevented me from sleeping on my stomach. Now I sleep every night on my stomach!
*Fibrocystic Breast issues reversing! Almost all gone after 6 years of buildup!
*no cravings unless they are for meat
*no more angina symptoms before a period- which started about 3 years ago.
*No more feeling weak like almost passing out and dizzy around ovulation and periods
* no more fingers swelling- that started a few years ago- rings kept being tight- is pattern I noticed. One ring I had resized larger and it’s super loose now. Will have to resize smaller.
*feel stronger- now lifting barbells not just hands weights. Dr. Baker said since I am 46, and 5’7” at 122lbs- need more resistance training to add more muscle weight. . So bought a 47lb barbell off Amazon and have 40 extra pounds added to it. Will continue to progress with that.
* i had started growing grey hairs in one of my eyebrows, few hairs at a time, but no grey in my blonde hair yet - but assumed it was coming before Carnivore. Now on carnivore I have had no new grey hairs growing in eye brows and still no grey hair in my natural blonde hair. And in the sun it gets super light highlights.
* no more body odor!
* I used to get a little anxiety with large crowds- like if attending special events- but since on carnivore I don’t get it that much.
*I was a bit OCD before carnivore, but so much more relaxed so barely like that.
* I was a relaxed person before, but somehow am even more relaxed and never stress about things.
*Since I was a young child my sense of smell has been terrible. But 9 months on carnivore my sense of smell has gone crazy! I smell things even far away! Amazing!
*no more allergies! I was allergic to cedar and oak pollens- and mold- but since carnivore I am no longer reacting to those outdoor pollens which is amazing!
If I think of anything else will add. ☺️👍🏻
I know when people go on carnivore they are trying to heal something, but if they aren’t like me and notice small things- they may not notice they are healing way more than they realized- things plant foods were causing! And they need to remember, processed foods are made from plants- but so are whole foods (raw or cooked!) they are all toxic!
The carnivore diet cures! ☺️👌🏻 The body is a network made of multiple gears- and if one gets messed up it causes a whole domino affect of problems like I had! The carnivore lifestyle is not a fad, it’s the ancestral human way of eating! Go Carnivore for a few months and see how you feel! ☺️👍🏻
So much deception and misinformation. Our channel is definitely not for you. It seems so desperate. Best of luck
@@TalkingWithDocswe ate meat for 3 million years, but apparently, that was inappropriate 😂
Glad you are doing well but most studies would contradict what you are asserting such as this metadata study from the National Institutes of Health: Plant-based diets like vegetarian or vegan diets might influence circulating levels of inflammatory biomarkers, thereby reducing the risk of chronic diseases. This systematic review and meta-analysis aimed to investigate the associations of veganism and vegetarianism with circulating inflammatory biomarkers in comparison to omnivores. Literature search was conducted in Pubmed and EMBASE until April 2020 and mean differences of biomarkers were assessed for: C-reactive protein (CRP), interleukin-6 (IL-6), interleukin-18 (IL-18), interleukin-1 receptor antagonist (IL-1 RA), tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-ɑ), E-selectin, intercellular adhesion molecule-1 (ICAM-1), monocyte chemoattractant protein-1 (MCP-1), adiponectin, omentin-1 and resistin. Of initially identified 1073 publications, 21 cross-sectional studies met the inclusion criteria and were included in the systematic review and meta-analysis. Vegan diet was associated with lower levels of CRP compared to omnivores [mean difference − 0.54 mg/l, 95%-CI: − 0.79 to − 0.28, p
And this also from the NIH on animal based diets and inflammation: Diet is a major factor determining gut microbiota composition and perturbances in this complex ecosystem are associated with the inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Here, we used gnotobiotic approach to analyze, how interaction between diet rich in proteins and gut microbiota influences the sensitivity to intestinal inflammation in murine model of ulcerative colitis. We found that diet rich in animal protein (aHPD) exacerbates acute dextran sulfate sodium (DSS)-induced colitis while diet rich in plant protein (pHPD) does not. The deleterious effect of aHPD was also apparent in chronic DSS colitis and was associated with distinct changes in gut bacteria and fungi. Therefore, we induced acute DSS-colitis in germ-free mice and transferred gut microbiota from aCD or aHPD fed mice to find that this effect requires presence of microbes and aHPD at the same time. The aHPD did not change the number of regulatory T cells or Th17 cells and still worsened the colitis in immuno-deficient RAG2 knock-out mice suggesting that this effect was not dependent on adaptive immunity. The pro-inflammatory effect of aHPD was, however, abrogated when splenic macrophages were depleted with clodronate liposomes. This treatment prevented aHPD induced increase in colonic Ly-6Chigh pro-inflammatory monocytes, but the ratio of resident Ly-6C−/low macrophages was not changed. These data show that the interactions between dietary protein of animal origin and gut microbiota increase sensitivity to intestinal inflammation by promoting pro-inflammatory response of monocytes.
Also from the NIH on breast cancer and cruciferous vegetables: In summary, the current study suggests that cruciferous vegetable intake is associated with reduced breast cancer risk, in particular with broccoli and cauliflower intakes. The inverse association of cruciferous vegetable consumption with breast cancer risk seems to be more apparent in premenopausal women. Biologically, dietary ITCs obtained from cruciferous vegetables have been shown to modulate estrogen metabolism, which may, at least partly, explain the differential effect of cruciferous vegetable intake on pre- and postmenopausal women, although other mechanisms may apply. These data also indicate the successful impact of public health efforts on encouraging vegetable consumption, which may change consumption patterns and modify the results of association studies on vegetables and disease.
Carnivore is our species-specific diet, how could it be dangerous?
We have never been carnivores. Omnivores. Sorry
It is a good way to go to deal with some big issues like inflammation due to allergies and also high blood sugar levels. Once some stability is found, one should SLOWLY reintroduce certain foods at a time, after weighing the benefits of that food. Inflammatory grains like white rice (high sugars) or buckwheat (high oxalates), might never be the best to reintroduce, due to the negative effects outweighing the positive. Individual fruits and vegetables should be looked at in the same way.
Yes elimination diets have benefits for sure. The obligatory saturated fat in red meat is inflammatory though. And yes we are against refined grains - white bread might as well be cake. Thanks for sharing
White rice is not inflammatory at all it's the most non inflammatory plant foods there is.
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 He said red meat was inflamatory, not white rice.
@@TalkingWithDocs That not true red meat is not inflammatory neither is white rice. Whole plant foods are inflammatory because the hull is indigestible and this is what causes the inflammatory response. All the top ten oldest human to ever live never ate whole plants their diets were made up animal products and some refined carbs.
@@TalkingWithDocsplease show me a study that PROVE saturated fat are inflammatory ?
Yes, I watch Mutual of Omaha. Following my cardiologist suggested that I have been eating a Mediterranean diet which has stabilized my cholesterol levels, and I have been able to maintain my weight has stabilized at 175 BMI 22 to 23.
Congrats
You said that eating an animal based diet will increase cholesterol. Rather than speculating, how do you prove that is a material fact? How is it logical that our bodies consist of cholesterol but yet somehow we increase cholesterol levels by strictly eating it? lol Aren’t the blood markers that we use to determine what is healthy or not based on the drug industry? Wouldn’t that make all of this inaccurate since it is biased?
Our bodies make the cholesterol that is required. Countless studies have shown this. Even Dr Shawn Baker who is a champion of carnivore revealed his LDL was through the roof. Up to you. Eat whatever you like. We are just sharing information so people can make informed choices. We have nothing to gain.
@@TalkingWithDocs Countless studies don’t necessarily have to do with objective reality in relation to the use of logic and reasoning. There’s a lack of prudence in relation to wisdom when it comes to healthcare. That’s why there are risks and liabilities having a medical procedure done because it’s based on a balance of probabilities that lacks certainty. Also, when it comes to doing business, the decisions are based on game theory regarding strategy. There are numerous business strategies that include prisoner’s dilemma, backwards reasoning, and zero sum game. Studies don’t have first hand knowledge of a fact and can only guess what is true. I also work at a hospital and know how the business works.
@@josephsmyth832 Thank you for that information. Very interesting.
@@jg5755 You’re welcome. All of this has to do with the rule of law and natural law in relation to logic and reason. Metaphysics is having to do with the fundamental nature of reality and that includes cause and effect. Every medical professional should have a background in philosophy since they are dealing with making wise decisions for patients.
So doctors, please answer this for me because I really would like to know.
If plant based diets, vegans and the like are so good for humans and so nutrient dense, why do most if not ALL humans who subscribe to this way of eating, need vitamin supplements and are constantly hungry?
So we would say someone who eats a whole food plant based diet isn't hungry. They can actually eat as much as they want. It is very filling and satisfying. As for supplements most people are deficient in B12 and vitamin D. Including those who eat meat. And this video isn't about being a vegan or about being a vegetarian. It is about not eating an all meat diet. We think you just may have missed the point. Maybe the fog from the meat 🤣
@@TalkingWithDocsno sir didn’t missed the point. You’re funny though. I didn’t take a jab at you so why would you at me?Just goes to show being a doctor doesn’t mean one has decorum.
How do you sleep?
Carnivore pulled me off meds and the sad diet, the most extreme diet, that over time would absolutely kill me at a early age.
We sleep well. We are against the SAD diet. We just want people to know this diet is not healthy. Yes the elimination part has benefits but be careful king term. Glad it worked for you though. All the best
Also to caveat on my longer comment, I was able to come off all 3 of my prescribed medications. Pepcid AC, Atorvistatin (metabolic poison, lots of brain fog) and Androgel. I just stopped taking my testosterone (Androgel) and when I saw my endocrinologist 3 months later he was astonished by my blood markers for my androgen levels. That they are the best they have ever been. Also the Carnivore diet is not a weight loss diet. Yes that is a side effect, but it is a weight and health optimization diet. Just ask Al those silly people who reversed their metabolic and autoimmune diseases.
Thanks again for sharing so much
@@TalkingWithDocsnow go study up on carnivore
Unbelievable that 2 highly respected Dr's would put out a video without research on the subject, but relied on data from biased studies. Not one mention on how the Government pushed grains and junk for years and created a Diabetic problem we have today. Just saying you could have done better and some research prior to dumping this click bait.
Yes the government has made mistakes for sure. Look at dairy 🤣. Avoid sugar, refined grains and processed foods. But carnivore isn't healthy. Full stop. But again like we have said a thousand times eat whatever you want. It doesn't matter to us
100% Let's go big PHARMA, Big hospitals, Big food$$$$$$$$$!!!!
“Actual experts” in this field are debunking the hell out of this propaganda video
Thanks for leaving a comment. Most experts have destroyed the likes of Shawn Baker, Ken Berry or Bart Kay. Those guys seem to be looking more to sell you stuff than help you. It's their livelihood so we get it. Just like big food or big Pharma.
I respectfully disagree. First of all, as you must know, our digestive system is set up for both plants and animal flesh. We metabolize heme protein far more efficiently than plant protein; both of which are broken down into the amino acids to be re-assembled as human protein. You know this. So, why are you're saying something that's blatantly wrong? After recovering from serious drug/alcohol addiction, I regained my strength and endurance by a 90% heme diet. I eat about 6-7 lbs of red meat a week, as well as two dozen eggs a week, excellent meat from distributors that sell meat with no extras pumped into it. I do not eat meat from the supermarket that has red food coloring in it as well as growth hormones, etc. That's crap. Yeah, I pay about 15 bucks a pound for my meats. I spend a lot of money on meat. I'm almost 70, and I am now in peak shape. I work out at the gym every day working on different muscle groups. It's about a 4000 calorie a day diet. No, meat is good for me. I will not give that up, good sirs! I am NOT like most men my age who have just thrown in the towel on serious fitness. I am very fit. I no longer have high blood pressure. I threw my BP meds away two years ago. I won't even say anything to the Joaquin Phoenix crowd who say it's tantamount to murder being a carnivore. I've had face-to-face arguments with a few of those people that almost got violent (on their part).
Thanks for sharing your opinion. We would also respectfully disagree. And so would the body of science. But you get to choose for you. We are not sharing an opinion here. All the best and good luck
@@TalkingWithDocs I'm not saying that my diet doesn't include a lot of veggies. It does. One point as far as heme protein is concerned..."Heme iron, which is present mainly in meat, poultry and fish, is well absorbed. Non-heme iron, which accounts for the majority of the iron in plants, is less well absorbed. More than 95% of functional iron in the human body is in the form of heme." A balance is the best, and that's not an opinion. You've obviously done well for yourself, but advocating a meatless diet is just not good. It's extreme, and saying that science would cogently support it is way off.
Docs, I'm not trying to be a jerk here. I'm not reacting out of thin air or out of some vain opinion sprung out of hubris. I know how the meat diet has improved my bodily functions. This is not a fiction. Of course, I eat veggies too, lots of them and good ones. I respect you both. I deleted that other comment about being in shape or out of. It was snarky and out of line. I apologize.
7:37: sure sounds to me that you are suggesting what not to eat, by your very clip title! Heads up - there are people on social media selling supplements for whatever diet you choose. Fact is, many carnivores (including myself) find themselves coming OFF supplements after being carnivore long term, because their vitamin and mineral deficiencies disappear. When I first went keto (from SAD) in 2018, my naturopath put me on 11 supplements to address my (tested) deficiencies. By the time I had been carnivore for 6 months, I was not taking ANY supplements.
Oh, I know - but if I stay on it for 20 years it'll kill me! Well, I'm 70 now, so if I live to 90, having normalized my A1c, BG, BP, lost 50 lb, cleared up my tinnitus, eliminated my lower back pain, shoulder pain, arthritic joints and ribs, reversed my asthma and chronic athletes foot, then I'll get 20 years of feeling like I was in my 20's, that'l l be a nice trade for spending the next 25 years in chronic pain (the last 10 of which would probably be in an extended care ward!) 🤣🤣🤣
Glad it's helping you honestly. We just want to try and help people be healthy. We aren't selling anything. We aren't getting rich off this like the mega carnivore TH-camrs. Just trying to keep people informed. Didn't mean to cause so much rage in your community.
Ahh just u wait when another 40 years it will wreak HAVOC on your health!!! dont you know that studies SHOW???? 😆
We look forward to that for sure. And are happy to change our position that plants have health benefits if that is proven but obviously that's not true.
Got a lot of respect for you DOCS, but you guys are better at allopathic medicine...
Thanks for sharing your opinion. We can agree to disagree with the entire volume of scientific literature on our side. We don't care what you eat but it's simply untrue to say it's healthy. All the best
😢Sounds like Big Pharma and Hospitals are sh*ting themselves as the customer base shrinks.
That's funny
Keto and carnivore are winning.
So keto is very different. Both have benefits by eliminating sugar, refined grains and processed food. Any diet will be better when comparing it to the SAD. Compare it to other healthy ways of eating
I think you guys are saying that I can eat a 16oz steak, 1 broccoli stem (for constipation), and a slice of orange (prevent Scurvy) I'll live to be 120? I can work with that.
Ha. Good luck with that 🤣
If you want to claim a specific diet shift is extreme or not a good idea. I think it would be best to provide sound evidence that it is such. And I dont mean ALL of the body of research on a 100% carnivore diet that are usually ALWAYS riddled with confounds and healthy/unhealthy user bias, as most of all studies done on meat are done on GENERAL meat eaters that usually have every single bad thing that comes along with our current modern food. Please open your minds and drop the dogmatic thought process. I've been a carnivore for almost 20 years, and I have PERFECT health. I've met other long term carnivores to and not a single one of them have poor health. I do appreciate your guys profession and I applaud and thank you for wanting to help people but please don't disregard the fallacy behind research and its a big enough fallacy to void research done on meat by itself.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. We did not mean to offend you by suggesting that people eat fruits and vegetables. We looked for any research behind the carnivore diet but couldn't find any other than anecdotes. If you have access to any please forward as we are keen to improve our knowledge on any topic we do a video on. There is however lots of research on the benefits of plants. Anti cancer. Anti aging. And countless other health benefits. We aren't saying don't eat meat but that if you eat only meat you will be missing out on so many good things. Get rid of sugar obviously. Get rid of white bread and refined grains. Duh. And get rid of processed foods with all of their preservatives, artificial flavours and colors, sweeteners and whatever else. No brainer. The SAD is just that. Sad. But please don't take offence at the suggestion that some plants can help you live a better and healthier life. We aren't selling anything. This isn't our job like many carnivore TH-camrs. We don't need the money. We are simply trying to help our loyal audience make informed choices for themselves. Hope that clears it up and again our apologies if we offended you. We just don't understand why this community feels the need to degrade, belittle and launch personal attacks over their food. Seems very odd
@@TalkingWithDocs I never stated once that I was offended at your claims that plant matter is beneficial to humans. My problem comes with your claims on meat that are not scientifically backed by meaningful research done SOLY on a 100% carnivore diet, and I'm sure you know exactly what I mean. Spreading misinformation is quite dangerous and could get people hurt.
As far of what you could be "missing out on", on a strictly 100% carnivore diet, that has NO context in your video. There is no evidence or hell even any anecdotes to suggest you'll be missing out on anything; Fiber? I've never seen one study showing low fiber intake is bad, vitamin c? Muscle meat has vitamin c and competes for the same transport receptors as carbs. Vitamin C is not a problem on carnivore, vitamin k1? Your body clearly retro- converts vitamin k2 to vitamin k1, phytonutrients? If you are consuming cows that graze on grass their entire lives, the muscle meat by itself has sufficient amounts of phytonutrients, calcium? You can simply consume bone broth or even egg shells, and even then calcium isn't an issue on a 100% carnivore diet. If people can make negative claims based off of opinion, I can do the same. Please don't spread misinformation a subject that has little veracity.
@@TalkingWithDocs With that said, going foward I wish you good luck, good health and please be mindful going foward. Good luck guys
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Would love to peruse the scientific literature they provided the base for the statements in your comments. Please forward as we are always looking to expand our knowledge. We were under the impression that yes muscle has vitamin C but if you are cooking it and due to its water soluble nature that much of it is degraded. Organ meat is a different story. Please correct us if we are wrong. All the best to you though too. We appreciate your passion and only mentioned offended as that was the tone of your comment. Texting does that sometimes. Our apologies.
Everyone is DIFFERENT in their Make up and their Physiology.. THEREFORE Do what works for YOU!!! 90% Of our food in America is PROCESSED and Bad for you and Vegetables that are Not Organic are filled with Pestisides, ESPECIALLY FRUITS.. we are a FAT Nation as a Result of our Western Style American Diet, 41% Of our population are FAT and have Diabetes because of What is in the food!! The Carnivore Lifestyle WORKS!!!! Meat Has vitamin C along with IRON which Most people are deficeint in!! Eggs give you SOOO Many Wonderful Vitamins!!!
For sure do whatever works. Good luck
Bart Kay will school you two in nutritional science. It’s common knowledge that MD’s get nearly no nutritional training in med school. That’s evident in your video.
Thanks for leaving a comment. There are lots of smart MDs who have done lots of research and still don't agree on topics like these. We appreciate your passion for Dr Kay though. And yes in med school you don't get much nutritional training. We have however done thousands of hours of research to educate ourselves. But we assume that doesn't count for anything in the world of the internet. Check out this letter by someone who actually specializes in this rather than someone trying to get attention on the internet like Bart Kay he has been discredited a thousand times over but is very popular with the gym bros and their "science". At the end of the day eat whatever you want.
proteinaholic.com/an-open-letter-to-bart-kay/
Here is a video about Bart Kay. We would hope your standards for information are much higher than this. It's sad really
th-cam.com/video/kO71gOwkWgA/w-d-xo.html
Your argument was tested and proved wrong about 100 years ago by a guy who ate meat for a year under Dr supervision and did perfectly fine. He was an explorer, can’t think of his name. Too many people have fixed problems and been eating carnivore 10 years or more. I do keto with mainly meat and at 62 have not felt this good or had such good blood markers since I was in my 20’s and off all the meds I was on so which life is better? I’ll stick with this. Of course mainstream doesn’t want the masses healthy, if we were, then there would not be as much need to see a Dr, big pharma would start losing money, and Corn Flakes and Fruit Loops would quit selling. All that processed “food” is really garbage. Wonder who sponsors your channel.
We agree. Get rid of sugar, refined carbs and processed foods. The big food industry is just like big Pharma. Profit over everything. That includes the animal agriculture business
We have zero sponsors
I’ve read quite a few articles about people who have done very very well on a carnivore diet. One woman, was in her late 70’s and looked 45. Then the yogis say all veggie diet is best, . I think the Mediterranean Diet is the best. Everyone is different.
One thing for sure is refined, processed foods are universally terrible. Also, advice from MD’s who get no Nutritional Education makes no sense. Their understanding of Cholesterol tells all. Newer studies show COLESTEROL IS NOT THE CAUSE OF HEART DISEASE. INFLAMMATION IS.
Hi marie. Thanks for sharing your opinion. Yes traditional medical school training is essentially zero when it comes to nutrition. We have spent thousands of hours educating ourselves abs researching nutrition and health. If you would be so kind please forward the study that showed cholesterol is not related to heart disease. We will certainly agree it is not the only problem and that big Pharma hasn't been deceptive. But that doesn't change the fact that decades of research have shown LDL to be a problem. Alongside inflammation. Insulin resistance. And many other factors. But to summarily dismiss it as you are is unwise. At the end of the day you can eat what you want. Have whatever LDL level you want. We are just doing our best to keep our viewers informed abs educated rather than deceived by reddit and influencers trying to sell you their book or supplement. No different than big Pharma. Or big tobacco. Or big meat, dairy and egg. All the best to you.
@@TalkingWithDocs TY for responding to me . Maybe I was too critical, I do agree with most of what YU are saying. , and you’ve obviously
Self educated. I don’t agree that CARNIVORE OR KETO IS ALWAYS BAD, AND FOR SOME IT HAS BEEN LIFE CHANGING.
I AM A RETIRED RN, WITH A DEGREE ALSO IN CHINESE MEDICINE. MY HEALTH CARE EXPERIENCE IS OVER 40 years.
I am HIGHLY EDUCATED AND HAVE SPENT MY LIFE RESEARCHING HEALING . REGARDING CHOLESTEROL, THERE HAS BEEN TONS OF RESEARCH LINKING HEART DISEASE PRIMARILY TO INFLAMMATION, INDONT HAVE THE ABI,ITY TO SEND YU ANY ARTICLES.
IM STRUGGLING WITH MY OWN HEALTH ISSUES RIGHT NOW. My CHOLESTEROL IS NOT ONE OF THEM BTW. I DO UNDERSTAND ABOUT LDL ETC. , BUT, FROM WHAT IVE READ, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS , FROM NUMEROUS SOURCES, CHOLESTEROL FORMS IN THE PROCESS OF INFLAMMATION. IT IS NOT THE PRIMARY CAUSE OF HEART DISEASE. PERSONALLY, FOR ME, I HAVE TYOEV2 DIABETES.
KETO DIET HAS BROUGHT MY A1C DOWN TO NORMAL. NO AMT OF DIABETES DRUGS OR THE DIETICIAN RECOMMENDED DIABETES DIET DID THAT. SO, KETO HAS ITS PLACE. I JUST THINK YOUR ADVICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INFORMATIVE ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF A MEDICALLY SPECIFIC DIET AS OPPISED TO CALLUNG THEM FAD DIETS. AYUEVEDIC MEDICNE TREATS ALL DISEASE WITH SPECIFIC DIETS FOR SPECIFIC BODY TYPYES. THE CHINESE ALSO. OVER THOUSANDS OF YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.
PEOPLE HAVE CURED CANCER BY DRASTICALLY CHANGING THEIR DIET. MY BROTHER WAS JYST RECENTLY DISGGNOSED WITH DISBETES.
HE IMMEDIATELY WENT ON OZEMPIC AND IS “ eating less” . I tried to encourage him to try KETO, BUT HIS DOCTOR TOLD HIM ITS JUST A FAD DIET. HE WOUKD RATHER TAKE A NEW DRUG AND EAT LESS. I GUARANTEE HE WILL NOT REVERSE HIS DIABETES.
BTW, KETO IS BASICALLY ATKINS ANDTHAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MANY YEARS. , HARDLY A FAD,
AGAIN, THANKS FOR RESPONDING TO MY COMMENT. TAKE CARE. IM SURE YOU ARE GOOD DOCTORS.
Puzzle me why ppl do carnivore, I eat Mediterranean style and enjoy delicious nutritious foods, benefits my skin glows, have a diverse gut microbiota and sustainable.😊 long-term 😊😊
I’m doing the Mediterranean diet lifestyle as well and I’ve never been healthier. I’ve lost 50 pounds, keeping it off and my cholesterol numbers are way down.
So is the carnivore diet. Very easy
th-cam.com/video/gz9Ez2IqtAI/w-d-xo.html
The thing is to reduce carbs. No carbs in meat.
It’s not surprising you are puzzled. There is so much misinformation out there. Especially these guys.
Carnivore wasn't extreme for our ancestors
They were omnivores but whatever
Nothing extreme about carnivore diet.
Supplements are not needed.
You two are very misinformed and it's a shame you are spreading misinformation.
Sorry Scott that wasn't our intention. Just trying to keep people informed. Glad it's working for you
Loss of all credibility in my book!
That's fine. Our channel likely isn't for you
@@TalkingWithDocs No.Your advice are not for people...
@@TalkingWithDocs got to have a reason to push the typical sick care! Definitely not for me... 55 yo, Carnivore for several years and never been healthier by all markers...
Dispense your meds. I'll stick with meat and fat.
Good luck Troy. All the best
Ha! yes, I remember Mutual of Omaha. I felt bad for "Jim", because no matter where they were, the old guy would go 'We're going to send in Jim..." - the lion's pride, the bear den... etc. Very good point about the diets though - everyone _is_ passionate about extreme diets. I have found you can try to caution people, but most of the time they have to learn the hard way by trying it.
"Fight it, Jim!" 😂
Oh yeah, good times! 👍
Of course, Jim Fowler got the last laugh (if you care to look at it that way) - he took over as host of the show, and passed away quite recently (2019, IIRC).
Tip o' the hat to them both - they done good.
Yes it doesn't matter what you say. They will do whatever they want. There are still people that try to say there are health benefits to red wine
While Jim was wrestling with the alligator, Marlin was sipping martinis in the tent....
He sure was !
Marlin Perkins Wild Kingdom.
I eat a plant based diet. When a friend of mine told me that I needed to eat meat or I would grow weak and unmuscular. I told him to tell that to the next gorilla or Holstein bull he met.
Well said
But what about the Inuit or First Nations people who live in colder climates and predominately eat animal based diets? They don't have a lot of dietary options to supplement for micro-nutrient shortcomings. So it can be done, right?
They are historically very unhealthy and have drastically reduced life spans
@@TalkingWithDocs But do they have the issues that the studies you mentioned claim they should have in much higher rates than other human populations? that would be much more persuasive. its not enough to say they are unhealthy as there are many reason why they could be that have nothing to do with meat.
Certified brain fog from eating a carnivore diet Ken Berry in his book on page 103 he says nuts and seeds are very healthy, the nutrients and fiber are great. Page 187 says I eat many servings of colorful veggies everyday. Page 192 says there are many days each week I eat no fiber at all. Page 205 says I often go days without eating anything but fatty meat. There are no references in the book to any study because he never read any studies he just says whatever he wants.
He lost his license a bunch of times. He has a very large and profitable TH-cam following
@@TalkingWithDocshave you watched his video explaining why he lost his license?
Its not just saturated fat that causes high ldl. If you are deficient in saturated fat and lower it even more, makes sense it will hurt your liver and ldl will increase
Thanks for sharing