No! It was all part if the plan. Alfred would think his mission was accomplished. Im disapointed you dont get to sit in the throne. There are TWO after all
It is possible she doesn't even remember getting mashed to bits by Alfred since reviving her is technically just her body travelling back in time to a point where she was ok.
An executioner attacks A Cainhurst hunter, who is hunting Eileen. Eileen is hunting a yharnam Hunter. Then the executioner would then be a Hunter of hunters of hunters of hunters.
Amygdala is unique. And hanging out literally everywhere. And she is one and whole. This is kinda her thing i belive. She is like christian trinity, but without limit :) If we dive deeper, that thing we see can be even some part of her. Not even a whole organism.
+tj454 Haha, no. You really need to listen to every line of dialog and read every item description in the game in order to get it. And honestly many people like myself are only playing due to the challenge. After completing the game I will watch lore video like this to fill in the massive gaps I didn't really care to fill while playing.
+cheddar07 Ha fair enough, yeah it's one of the only games I've played where the urge to finish it doesn't really come from the story, it just comes from the challenge and the want to explore more of the world and beat the bosses
The Bloodmoon Night falls from the skies, The blood grows as all hope dies, We crave your life and your blood, By my old hand, the veil blood shall rise!
Something you didn't mention in the video was the fact that once you arrive at the castle, if you look back to your carriage, the trusty steeds that brought you there, and the pathway you took, the carriage is busted/frozen over, the horses are long dead and complete popsicles, and the pathway seems like it was destroyed years ago during the invasion or another conflict. Could you please explain this?
chrisR97 The altar that reverses time is probably related to it. Maybe when ever someone is summoned to the castle, the time is reversed for the carriage and the bridge, until they've served their purpose. Or maybe the Cainhurst Castle is somewhere between a dream and the waking world. I dunno, but it's easy to come up with possible reasons.
Arexion5293 I think it's mentioned that Martyr Logarius and his Executioners invaded Cainhurst "long ago". Frankly, everything of import has happened "long ago", except for the killing of important bosses and, say, the turning of Amelia and pretty much anyone else in Yharnam. Even the downfall of the Church has been going on for "a long time". How does this explain the horses? It doesn't. It also doesn't explain why the main doors open for you in Cainhurst. I'd like to think that the Queen still retains some influence over matters related to Cainhurst. And, who knows, perhaps the invitation itself has an inkling of power in it.
That's a good possibility. I Always assumed that there was some sort of disjointed time flow occurring in this game, or the dream vs reality concept, but I never really knew how those would fit in.
Something that might help is that the horses and even the carriage that pick you up at hemwick are actually ghosts, how a carriage can be a ghost, I’m unsure, but the Horses are. if you attack them when they show up to pick you up, they will simply disappear into thin air, and will stay gone until you reload the area.
So that's where all the vampires went! They were the Vilebloods. Hmmm...With their hatred for the Healing Church, and the fact that most of the "Cleric Beasts" take on a more Wolf-like quality, the relationship between Cainhurst & the Healing Church pretty much boils down to the age old war between Werewolves & Vampires. Plus, while patroling the streets of Yharnam, the fact that you often come across those ornate coffins, all wrapped up in chains as if to keep something inside, would explain why the Queen is the only true Vileblood left.
i think that alfred killed himself because he realized that annalise is truly immortal and that logarius' death was in vain, and now that logarius is gone there is nothing to keep the Vilebloods contained. you'll notice that the crown of illusions is on the statue in front of alfreds corpse only after he kills himself, i think he was staring at it in the realization that his entire quest to free logarius is the worst thing he could do to stop the vilebloods, and he couldn't handle that his whole life (or a big part of it) has been a fruitless quest. kind of like Brolaire doubting his quest to find the sun? maybe there are some parallels there.
cloudbloom he killed himself because for some reason (like lagarious) they believed in being a martyr. Which is sacrificing yourself to a cause. He knew that the queen was unkillable but didn’t care. He settled for destroying her body to the point that she would be nothing but living twitching organs left in a chair. And because Alfred didn’t expect our character to revive her corpse he believed his mission was done and killed himself to complete his desire to be a martyr.
Do one for Ebrietas. I feel like not enough people know of the true tragic story behind her. She was essentially abandoned by her Kin, lost in her own tomb, then captured by the church for experimentation and even had a child (Rom) perhaps Rom was a gift to Ebrietas for sharing blood with the church and granting knowledge. Shortly after, she loses Rom, maybe to ascension or something. Whether Rom was literally her child, or someone she knew is uncertain, but its safe to assume that Ebrietas did care for her, as evidence by her mourning over Rom's dead petrified body as we encounter her. The doctors later on became mindless brain suckers, craving knowledge. So Ebrietas was of no use anymore. Now she just sits in her altar of despair, mourning over her child's body, thinking of her family, realizing how alone she really is, until we come along being the heartless demons we are in souls games and start attacking her. Fights only in defense, then dies.
Dio Dolmans it is such a great game. It makes me sad it died out so quickly lore videos and following wise. I can't find anyone on ng plus 5 to come along with me. D:
\[Y]/ Praise the sun what are you saying?there are TONS of people still playing the game pvp and pve.ive found so many matches and co-op partners where ever i ring my siniser/resonant bells......
So, apparently Alfred was supposed to be somewhat like Solaire. A "good natured" fellow out on a quest. "Praise the good blood". And Alfred's voice actor is the same as Solaire's. But I find Alfred to be an ominous character and I don't feel that warmth for him that I feel towards Solaire. I don't mind that he ends up a bloody heap.
Scream Like You Mean It Unless you let the Sunlight Maggot get to him =[ Or the Red Chaos Bug...? Something like that. The Sunlight Maggot is the helmet. But yeah, depressing D=
+HeavenhoundVII Well, this universe is inspired by Lovecraft's work. Every religion in those stories are pretty macabre and bordering the insane. Both Solaire and Alfred are devoted to religion, but while Solaire is simply a good doer and believes in arthurian codes of honor, Alfred follows a sect that worships blood. Healing with blood, but still blood nonetheless. It's already pretty macabre right there. After all, where does the "good blood" come from? EDIT: Anyway, my point is, Alfred is too crazy and too mental to ever be trusted, even if he never directly harms you. Solaire was naive, but not insane. He was an innocent knight, not a murderer. No matter the comparisons, Alfred and Solaire are far from being similar
The only disappointing part of the whole revive Queen Annalise quest is she doesn't say anything about it. No thanks, no confusion, no comment for somehow coming back from being a pile of pink pulp. Great video, as always, VV!
@@Aelesis no, it is because she can't remember any reviving things that happened. For her, she didn't die. She is not dead and will never be from her POV. So even if you revive her a million times, she will not remember any of it. It's a "back-in-time" process.
Idk if it's a translation error, but playing the game in italian she just told me "you are insane" once revived. Maybe it had to do with me killing alfred right away in the trone room
Pity Annalise is prevented from playing a better political game. She has all the makings of a really magnificent villain. But alas, she is shut in by Logarius, and is never seen saying anything to anyone save you. Headcanon commencing: The hunter does not walk in on a bloodstained Alfred, having "killed" the queen and gloating. However, we see the queen taunting him about his poor master, alone in the cold for years on end. How he had suffered. How Alfred had failed to find him and lay him to rest. On and on until Alfred snaps and smashes her to bits (which of course we see in all its glory). Then Alfred sees you, gives a truncated victory speech and is off on his way. Then as we turn around to leave, we hear a whispered "wait..." While the camera could not see Annalise's body, an item appeared there. The Queenly Flesh. This is the point where the hunter makes the choice to aid Annalise, the vampire-esque Queen of the Vilebloods, or Alfred, the militant Executioner. And then it plays out as in the video.
I don't know why, but I draw a parallel between the Executioner invasion of Cainhurst, and the siege of Sen's Fortress by the Knights of Berenike. Both Cainhurst and Sen's are sealed off, not allowing just anybody to wander in, and at the top of both castles, there lies a guardian protecting something hidden from the rest of the land below. As far as we know, both invasions weren't entirely successful, as Alfred seems to be the only executioner left, and there are only a handful of unhollowed Berenike Knights left in Lordran. It's interesting to note how similar the two events seem to be.
***** Yes, but the original intent was to destroy the Vilebloods, not leave one left standing. And the argument could be made that Tarkus was also successful in getting to Anor Londo, but for the most part, the Berenike Knights were fought off. And it's clear not all the Executioners weren't unscathed. You can find a dead one in Cainhurst, and if there are others alive, where did they go? If they love martyrdom so much, why aren't there more Executioners in Yharnam trying to free their Master Logarius? Perhaps it's from a gameplay standpoint that Alfred is the only one we find, but still, the two events seem similar, at least to me.
Bishop Havel What was hidden in sen's fortress? Just because it's guarded doesn't mean it is hidden. The Berenike raided the castle TO FIND anor londo. Therefore meaning they knew it was there
K What I mean is that Sen's isn't just guarded, but actually getting inside isn't possible if you're just a random traveler (i.e Seigmeyer). Special requirements need to be met before getting inside. Granted, I don't know how the Berenikes actually got in, nor do we know how all of the Executioners got to Cainhurst. I guess you're right in regards to Anor Londo though, I was thinking that the means of actually getting there was hidden, and not the goal itself.
Ok, so tell me if I'm overthinking this, but is it possible that the one who brought the forbidden blood to Cainhurst was the Impostor Iosefka? Firstly, From her garb, she was obviously a member of the Choir, which has its ties to Willem and Bergenwerth. Secondly, If killed before the bloodmoon, she drops an Oedon Writhe rune, whose lore states "Both Oedon, and his inadvertent worshippers, surreptitiously seek the precious blood." Could this be a reference to blood Dregs? Thirdly, When fighting her, Iosefka uses Numbing mist, which is a closely guarded Cainhurst recipe, and she herself seems immune to its affects as she will heal even if it is used on her. Finally, you find the Cainhurst summons on the table next to the door she stands by through most of the game, but it was not there when we first awoke, so it is most likely that she is the one who brought it there. Tell me, does this theory hold water?
That's a solid theory. The only thing that's confusing is how the letter was addressed to us and now iosefka. Everything else makes perfect sense and fits in without any problem.
@@survive1997 Is there a way to get the Cainhurst Letter without first interacting with the imposter at the door? Because she could have learned about you from those interactions. I just always interact with her before sneaking inside so I can get her information to correctly send the old man to the Cathedral Ward, and also send the beast-man there on NG+ playthroughs.
There probably is some sort of "magic" in these invitations, as the one you give to Alfred was, most likely, addressed to him, even though there is no way to confirm (due to it being sealed), and he is a loyal member of the church (so there isn't any reason for someone from cainhurst to invite him there)
i think the thing is with Bloodborne, compared to the other games in the souls series, it doesn't have the same depth to it. sure you can dig up the story like in the souls games but there's just not as much there
+shimmyking4 but there is still some amazing prepare to cry material in characters like ludwig, gehrman and maria. Sure, vaati has gone through the entire history of bloodborne and i dont think there is much material left on that front, some amazing characters still wait their individual prepare to cry videos.
I think that's the point, he's more like a twisted reflection of solaire, something just slightly off until his zealotry and brutality are finally revealed
Hi VaatiVidya. Thank you for all your efforts in producing a top quality, well thought out, well researched TH-cam video series. I look forward to your future endeavors.
+VaatiVidya well with dark souls 3 coming out there will be alot of new lore but first everyone get you toilots and pizza boxes and get ready to lock your doors for a few days for when dark souls 3 comes out
Android 19 The plague makes people turn into werewolves, the people of Yharnam(Yharnamites?) technically count as vampires already. Vilebloods are basically that on steroids. They are the Alucard/Pillar Men to the Yharnamite's ghouls/vampires.
when Alfred killed queen annalise I was like “how could you do such a thing” and I killed him but I never paid attention to his name which shows he is a vile blood hunter
Your Bloodborne "Lore" videos sucked me in and are the reason I became a subscriber. Bloodborne was my introduction to the "Souls" games. I haven't played anything besides Bloodborne so far but I got hooked on it. Your videos are absolutely fantastic and the quality of them is outstanding. Thank you. Wish I had thought to do this first for my channel but viva le difference.
I think Laurence was the one who took the "forbidden blood" to Cainhurst. Before the rise of the Healing Church and the building of Yharnam, I think Byrgenwyrth received the patronage of the Cainhurst monarchy, which was typical of scientific/scholarly institutions in Bloodborne's sort of era. I think the Byrgenwyrth scholars were obligated to share their findings with their patron, the Cainhurst queen and her court, but Willem thought the world was not ready to learn of the elder blood and wanted to hide the secrets of tombs. But, in opposition to this, Laurence believed it their duty to report back to the Cainhurst court, so he set out to share their discovery with them and leaving his colleague, promised not to forget their adage. He would continue to fear the old blood, but, unfortunately, his patron would not be so cautious.
I think the person who brought the forbidden blood to Cainhurst Castle was Runesmith Caryll. He must of been caught by the witches of Hemwick after returning from Cainhurst at the waypoint where you depart for the castle. Maybe Caryll thought that Willem and Laurence were not his equals and the Runes and language itself was the key to heighten mankind. After all Nobles are always presumed to be everyone's betters skilled in tongue and bettered by their own lineage. After all we are all bound by blood so giving the nobles of Cainhurst blood of the Gods would best help mankind since they are thought to be the best. It might of explained why the Church declared Cainhurst enemies and rivals. Just a thought anyone got any ideas?.
+AstralMuffin105 Looking deeper at the pics (Both Cainhurst summons, look at the seals) more can be drawn on. Annalise became the benefactor, the traitor clearly Runesmith Caryll was paid and owed allegiance to Annalise who used the forbidden blood to secure her position as queen. She threw out and degraded the other nobles (look at the blood of Arianna and Adella and Alfred) all nobles of Cainhurst begin with the letter A. When Caryll saw his mistake he tried to correct it using runes to communicate with the great ones but failed, retreating from Castle Cainhurst he was mobbed by the townsfolk (witch-hunt) and killed. Lawrence saw the new Queen and her creatures and thus founded the Church using another blood, hence Healing church to undo what Caryll did. They say necessity is the mother of invention. Willem never knew what became of Caryll hence "Master Willem would of been proud" The executioners are kind of like old knights of medieval Europe, men who want Martyrdom men who want to die for God. This must of happened long before the Healing Church became powerful which makes me wonder how much time has passed since the Vilebloods and the coming of the Healing Church. The seals on the summons tell alot, one is new sealed in red with a duel lion crest from Queen Annalise the older one is tattered like a 100 year old letter faded and sealed in blue with an unknown crest with no name on it.
I think I watch these vids every summer. Idk why but I always do a play through it Souls and Bloodborne during summer. Something to get me through summer waiting for new releases in the fall. Love the channel my dude
Watching this after a lot of playthroughs, I think that if there's a Bloodborne II, there are two narrative possibilities: Taking place in the Pthumerian society, or during the war between Cainhurst and the Church. It would be awesome if, like in Sekiro, in certain part of the game you should take the decision of fighting alongside Cainhurst or The Church...
I hope they make a Blood Borne 2 I feel like the writers have so much more to explore and while I love the souls series I felt that Blood Borne's setting was very unique and explored elements that haven't really been explored in games
they will, i mean, they pretty much connected flawlessly sulyvahn's beasts to the great ones and the old wolf to the curse of the bests, they just need to make bloodborne 2 and give us actual proof and then they'd have an inter-connected multiverse. and anyway there are pretty convincing rumors around about it being announced at E3.
that was so well told and written and good tidbits of gameplay; i havent even played the game and im getting goosebumps. You always have great content, thanks!
Assuming that Annalise is the inspired by Erzsébet Bathory, I always saw in the ghosts in the castle more young girls killed by the Queen for their blood than noble women.
This is just proving that Hidetaka Miyazaki is genius, alongside with his From Software team. Never have I in a game had to collect little pieces of lore, and then like place it in right order like a puzzle so you can understand it. One of my favorite videos of yours is that about Pinwheel in Dark Souls, proves how good researcher you are . Every other game just throws its lore at you at begging of game, or it's usually really easy to find out whats going on. I can't but not to think about Series as work of art.
Unbelievable, I totally missed this during my first run. Amazing how FromSoftware hides an entire area (perhaps even the very best area) in there game! Bloodborne is a true masterpiece
Will we see a video for Valtr? He contrasts Alfred beautifully, Alfred appears to be a man of goodness and dutiful faith. You find that, though he does not deceive you, there is more than meets the eye...a fanaticism and fervour that makes him merciless. Whereas, I believe, his counterpart Valtr is, like Alfred, devoted to the point of appearing fanatical. But you find his sign before Ludwig and offers Confederates to your aid. He delivers guidance and an unyielding loyalty. Both Alfred and Valtr are passionate men bound by duty, but Valtr never lost himself in his faith, nor the hunt itself. But Alfred's desire to be canonized like his mentor leads him to act at the limits of his mores. I think just as Alfred is a meaningful character, so too is his counterpart. A man who consumed a beast as the ultimate act of hate, an extension of his loyalty to his fellow compatriot. Is Valtr just an eccentric?
There's not necessarily a third man who betrayed the school. It's possible that it's Laurence himself, especially since we know he had to meet Gherman and Maria and get the cord that allowed communion with the moon presence somewhere (before bloodborne was patched the description of the cord that you find in the shop said that it came from Cainhurst, which would explain why Analise and her followers are so adamant on giving her a child of blood, because she already did it once. And why she refuses to be proposed to by you saying that she doesn't want to hurt you. Most likely what killed her first husband the king of Cainhurst in the first place. Also that Analise recognized the ring and what it's for means that she knows about the pthumeru and if she is their descendant than that explains why she's immortal and why Laurence would want to visit her in the first place. And don't forget. This woman recognized the scent of the moon on you. She knows.
I must say, Vaati! These videos are some of the best produced videos i have ever seen on youtube! The way you capture the feeling of the game, with your storytelling, the music in the background, and the incredible camera angles! everything is perfect! And i really hope you continue to make Bloodborne videos even after Dark Souls 3 comes out! (at least now, with the DLC coming up, and all) The Lore videos and every single video you have produced, just have this amazing feeling and atmosphere, that truly capture the feeling of the game! Hands down some of the best content i have ever seen! Well done, sir! Keep it up!!
hey, I know these Bloodborne videos are kinda old now and you've mostly been doing Dark Souls 3 stuff nowadays, but would you ever consider doing a lore video on Micolash? I know there's less information on him than other characters, but he's such a strange cryptic character and I'd love to fully understand what his deal was.
Dovahcat Best I can figure he is the host of the nightmare, and Mergo is using his dream to grow, thus keeping his mind alive even though his body is long dead. When you kill him there is no host save maybe Mergo herself/himself. Kill the wet nurse, and Mergo has no hold on the nightmare and cannot grow anymore.
what about the brain of mensis? and aren't both the hunter's nightmare and hunter's dream places with hosts too? what about nightmare frontier? is it directly connected to the nightmare of mensis or is the host there either patches or amygdala? i actually would like to know more about how nightmares function rather than about micolash himself, we might know the details about him, but overall we know who he was and what he did for... mostly, what reasons, but we know nothing about the nightmares, absolutely nothing.
Just finished watching all 4 of these videos. just have 2 things to say. 1. I love the way you edit these helps really pull you in to the store. and 2. You have the perfect voice to narrate these videos.
One thing is unanswered; what exactly is the 'forbidden' blood? If the Healing Church is founded on the use of the Old Blood, then what marks the forbidden blood as special? Is it the blood of Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen in particular?
VaatiVidya im going through my 2nd playthrough on bloodborne and just wanted to say that I enjoy the storytelling on these BB videos. They provide a lot of insight and turns out I missed out so many things on my 1st playthrough. Keep up the goodwork!
I very much disagree with this interpretation of Logarius for a number of reasons. The first being Alfred's dialogue: "In his time, Master Logarius led his executioners into Cainhurst Castle to cleanse it of the Vilebloods. _But all did not go well_ and Master Logarius became a blessed anchor, guarding us from evil...Tragic, tragic times...that Master Logarius should be abandoned in the accursed domain of the Vilebloods. I must free him, so that he may be properly honored in martyrdom." This bit of dialogue is important for a number reasons, 1) Alfred doesn't actually _say_ what went wrong, only that something did indeed occur that resulted in the failure of the executioners' raid against cainhurst castle, and 2) it may have been _one single event_ that effectively turned the tide of the battle; some unexpected occurance that led to defeat of the executioners. Also, bear in mind that Alfred is searching "for the path to cainhurst castle". If Alfred was a part of the raid, wouldn't he already know the path there? It's clear that he was not there, and very likely that what he gathered was hearsay, so his interpretation of events is not entirely reliable. It's also apparent that the "all did not go well" wasn't the residents of cainhurst transforming: many of the executioners' gear, from garb to their famous (or infamous) arcane gauntlets, are stored away within chests, which implies that cainhurst was still doing relatively well if they can store their foes' gear as symbols of triumph. Another piece of info is Logarius's own characterization: his famous quote "Acts of goodness are not always wise. and acts of evil are not always foolish, but regardless, we shall always strive to be good." This is an extremely important quote towards understanding Logarius. This does not strike me as words of conviction, but rather as whispers of doubt. By the healing church's standards, killing the vilebloods would be seen as an act of great good, and the vilebloods using their strain of old blood is an act of great evil, _yet_ if Logarius is stating his own rather morality of good not always being wise and evil not always being foolish, what could this say about his views about the vilebloods and the executioners? Does he think vilebloods are monsters and executioners as heroes, or does he believe that their respective actions are a little more ambiguous then they originally appear? Are the executioners right to impose reckless violence, or is there something that their perceived view of "good" cannot currently comprehend? Finally, there's the crown of illusions: "One of the precious secrets of Cainhurst. The old king's crown is said to reveal illusions, and expose a mirage that hides a secret. And so Logarius donned the crown of his own volition, determined to prevent a single soul from stumbling upon the vile secret. What visions did he see, sitting serenely upon his new throne?" Something to note is that this crown is designed to reveal illusions, illusions that could threaten cainhurst if discovered. That means that Logarius himself _could not have created the illusion of the queen's throne room, as said illusion was always there_. The idea of him "sealing the queen away" doesn't make sense in this context, as her being hidden inside her throne room was essentially the status quo. Another part is the final line of Logarius "_sitting serenely upon his new throne_". Serenely...a very strange adjective to describe a man whom is supposedly suffering. He is not anxious, or worried, or determined, but _serene_...as if all went exactly according to plan. Note his appearance as well: he does not look like a beast from Yharnam. In fact, he looks very familiar...almost like certain ghostly darkbeast nobles we find within cainhurst's walls... Also, here is one final question, one that puts Logarius's role under scrutiny: Why is he sitting on an elaborate throne? Not a simple chair..._but a throne_...
I know this is a 3 year old comment, but I only got to play Bloodborne for the first time recently, and this seems like the only comment that's in line with my initial reaction. Going in blind, I sincerely thought that Logarius was protecting Queen Annalise from the outside, not the other way around. Obviously it's not really touched on outside of implications - Queen Annalise doesn't so much as mention anything outside of her disdain towards the church, and doesn't seem to have an opinion on Logarius personally, whether good or bad. But it really did seem like Logarius, for all intents and purposes, was the "King" of Cainhurst. Did he fall unrequited love for Annalise, or become "corrupted" in some way? I guess we'll never truly know.
I really appreciate your videos, thank you so much. All i'd say as a side note is i would love some more demon's souls or dark souls lore. Maybe Priscilla or Seath? I've always wondered about Ornstein and Smough. Thanks again! Keep on being awesome.
I love learning lore of different games, but I haven't really found anyone that presents the lore like you do. It might be because its only the certain games I'm looking up but ehhh. Really appreciate the professionalism :) You do you!
***** You don't need to revive her to become a Vileblood Hunter. You just accept yourself to her the first time you kneel for her after beating Logarius.
+VenomtheOne I just kept her in my pocket, and queens have subjects.. her's are all dead, she's more a waste of space now. Even if I was Vileblood, why not just overthrow and make myself the new Vileblood master? Either way she's a smug bitch.
The scene where Alfred pulverizes Annalise is maybe my favorite in the game. so fucking METAL. Also is Annalise voice by the same person who voiced the forest cat from Dark Souls? whose name i cant remember but you know what i mean.
Matt Fletcher Diffrent people Alvina is voiced by Eve Karpf and Annalise is voiced by Jenny Funnell Jenny has also voiced Darkmoon Knight, Quelana of Izalith in ds1 and Yuria the witch in demons souls
Vaati, perfect video as always. Would be great if there were more. Cainhurst is my favourite location. Just a quick question, at 3:46, it looks as if you are at Hemwick charnel lane, if so is Cainhurst visible from there? It's really cool I've never noticed before. Well that's it, great video man. Thanks :)
you know it's Bloodborne when the word blood is said more than three times in each bloody sentence
A Potato hah I get it
Bloody hell your right
A Potato clever
A Potato funny
You might have Red too much into it bro
If you die to Eileen she says "say hello to that little doll for me"
Dont know why but i think that line is epic
Funny if you do as she says and the doll is like "oh I remember Eileen, nice gal"
Shane Smith wouldnt really fit in the dialogue at all
Tell the little doll I said hello
@@adistantecho1275 The funny thing is the doll is like 8 feet tall.
the most amazing thing about this is how Alfred smashed Analise into chunks and manages to keep the chair intact
He is a vileblood hunter, not a chair hunter
@@See_Saad lol if you kill him he drops Chair Hunter Badge
Even Alfred can appreciate nice furniture
@@flyingsaucerfoundation2766
I would've loved if there was a
Choir Hunter Badge
It would work well as Chair
The chair is not a vileblood
After you revive the Queen I really wish the Queen would at least yell at you for letting Alfred in.
No! It was all part if the plan. Alfred would think his mission was accomplished. Im disapointed you dont get to sit in the throne. There are TWO after all
Who cares if it's apart of the plan! It'd be a lot of fun to have the queen yell angry about being pummeled with a wheel.
It is possible she doesn't even remember getting mashed to bits by Alfred since reviving her is technically just her body travelling back in time to a point where she was ok.
That sounds very masochistic of you. But I like the idea
That too would be fun, but then no one would revive her.
Alfred's evil laugh is fucking amazing
Eclipse_ I know right? Top tier voice acting. Fucking love it
Fromsoft only has one voice actor... their name? VOICE ACTING MAN!
@Keknov lol what? there's numerous instances of painfully bad voice acting in bloodborne. amagdala, the npc in hemwick, etc etc
@@johanliebert6000 amygdala* and fyi they are monsters they are supposed to sound like that not like a human
@@Based1889 damn that's new information to me bro they are NOT HUMAN? WOW that's crazy
An executioner attacks A Cainhurst hunter, who is hunting Eileen. Eileen is hunting a yharnam Hunter. Then the executioner would then be a Hunter of hunters of hunters of hunters.
yo dawg i heard you liked hunters
so i put a hunter of hunters hunting hunters that are hunting hunters in your game
then i'm hunting the executioner
Huntception
Or as Eileen would say
HOONTERS of HOONTERS OF HOONTER OF HOONTERS
Alfred gloating over the smashed queen was the best part of the game
*YOU FILTHY MONSTROSITY*
I've done it. I HAVE.
Hahahahaha
I guess you could say he...
smashed
@@amberhernandez i guess you could say he
Beat up a woman
@@bowser8817 based alfred???
Alfred standing over Queen Annalise's remains in a violent frenzy is such a cool and shocking moment. God I love this game
Best moment in the best game.
Bloodborne: "Every Great One is unique"
Also Bloodborne: *Amygdala hanging out literally everywhere*
I think the Amygdala aren't full great ones. That's why you don't get a "Nightmare Slain" when you kill one.
@@fireandbombs12 might just be like they're not *fully* gods. Maybe "demigods" except they're not half? Messengers? hmmm
Amygdala is unique. And hanging out literally everywhere. And she is one and whole. This is kinda her thing i belive. She is like christian trinity, but without limit :)
If we dive deeper, that thing we see can be even some part of her. Not even a whole organism.
@Luke Brown maybe heralds of the great ones
@@fireandbombs12 you get "Prey Slaughtered" after the Amygdala bossfight
Am I the only one who learnt more about this game from TH-cam videos than I did from completing it.
+tj454 Haha, no. You really need to listen to every line of dialog and read every item description in the game in order to get it. And honestly many people like myself are only playing due to the challenge. After completing the game I will watch lore video like this to fill in the massive gaps I didn't really care to fill while playing.
+cheddar07 Ha fair enough, yeah it's one of the only games I've played where the urge to finish it doesn't really come from the story, it just comes from the challenge and the want to explore more of the world and beat the bosses
After completing it 3 times and getting platinum there were still a bunch of things that didn't come together for me
tj454 Learned*
tj454 makes you wonder where they even get the story.
11:04 I'm glad to see that Cainhurst Castle is wheelchair accessible, I'd imagine that Yharnam would be an absolute nightmare with a wheelchair.
Lol I never thought of that!
The voice actor really nailed his ranting about the pulped up Queen, amazing performance.
In brightest day and darkest night
No hunter shall escape my sight
Let those who worship the martyr's might
Beware my sword The Cainhurst Knights.
Wonder Executioner powers activate! Form of... a wheel.
Mr Brightside BERSERK!
I am Vengeance, I am Justice, I am the Night! I AM BLACK CHURCH!!
The Bloodmoon Night falls from the skies, The blood grows as all hope dies, We crave your life and your blood, By my old hand, the veil blood shall rise!
Insanity Song "veil blood"?
Something you didn't mention in the video was the fact that once you arrive at the castle, if you look back to your carriage, the trusty steeds that brought you there, and the pathway you took, the carriage is busted/frozen over, the horses are long dead and complete popsicles, and the pathway seems like it was destroyed years ago during the invasion or another conflict. Could you please explain this?
chrisR97 The altar that reverses time is probably related to it. Maybe when ever someone is summoned to the castle, the time is reversed for the carriage and the bridge, until they've served their purpose. Or maybe the Cainhurst Castle is somewhere between a dream and the waking world.
I dunno, but it's easy to come up with possible reasons.
Arexion5293 I think it's mentioned that Martyr Logarius and his Executioners invaded Cainhurst "long ago". Frankly, everything of import has happened "long ago", except for the killing of important bosses and, say, the turning of Amelia and pretty much anyone else in Yharnam. Even the downfall of the Church has been going on for "a long time".
How does this explain the horses? It doesn't. It also doesn't explain why the main doors open for you in Cainhurst. I'd like to think that the Queen still retains some influence over matters related to Cainhurst. And, who knows, perhaps the invitation itself has an inkling of power in it.
That's a good possibility. I Always assumed that there was some sort of disjointed time flow occurring in this game, or the dream vs reality concept, but I never really knew how those would fit in.
The castle is completely haunted, that's why.
Something that might help is that the horses and even the carriage that pick you up at hemwick are actually ghosts, how a carriage can be a ghost, I’m unsure, but the Horses are. if you attack them when they show up to pick you up, they will simply disappear into thin air, and will stay gone until you reload the area.
The Moon Presence should be in a L'Oréal advert
Hahahahahaha
So that's where all the vampires went! They were the Vilebloods. Hmmm...With their hatred for the Healing Church, and the fact that most of the "Cleric Beasts" take on a more Wolf-like quality, the relationship between Cainhurst & the Healing Church pretty much boils down to the age old war between Werewolves & Vampires. Plus, while patroling the streets of Yharnam, the fact that you often come across those ornate coffins, all wrapped up in chains as if to keep something inside, would explain why the Queen is the only true Vileblood left.
i think that alfred killed himself because he realized that annalise is truly immortal and that logarius' death was in vain, and now that logarius is gone there is nothing to keep the Vilebloods contained. you'll notice that the crown of illusions is on the statue in front of alfreds corpse only after he kills himself, i think he was staring at it in the realization that his entire quest to free logarius is the worst thing he could do to stop the vilebloods, and he couldn't handle that his whole life (or a big part of it) has been a fruitless quest. kind of like Brolaire doubting his quest to find the sun? maybe there are some parallels there.
cloudbloom he killed himself because for some reason (like lagarious) they believed in being a martyr. Which is sacrificing yourself to a cause. He knew that the queen was unkillable but didn’t care. He settled for destroying her body to the point that she would be nothing but living twitching organs left in a chair. And because Alfred didn’t expect our character to revive her corpse he believed his mission was done and killed himself to complete his desire to be a martyr.
He kills himself because NPC's in soulsborne games generally kill themselves when they fulfil their purpose.
@@ItsDroLeo dude at least @cloudbloom provided evidence for his theory... You're acting like your comment is a statement of fact
@@herrzyklon "evidence"
Nothing but a bunch of "I think"s
First it was Ostrava.
Then Solaire.
Then Lucatiel.
And now Alfred.
Why do the Soulsbros always have to lose hope or go nuts?
I like Alfred’s pose after “killing” Annalise. WELL, WHAT IS IT!
We need a prepare to cry for lady Maria
Heh
@@hawkwood9257 lol
Plot twist! It never came.
Why. She was a hunter. She died. German made her into a doll.
@@W_PFPThat is way oversimplified. And, she does deserve a Prepare to Cry
Do one for Ebrietas. I feel like not enough people know of the true tragic story behind her. She was essentially abandoned by her Kin, lost in her own tomb, then captured by the church for experimentation and even had a child (Rom) perhaps Rom was a gift to Ebrietas for sharing blood with the church and granting knowledge. Shortly after, she loses Rom, maybe to ascension or something. Whether Rom was literally her child, or someone she knew is uncertain, but its safe to assume that Ebrietas did care for her, as evidence by her mourning over Rom's dead petrified body as we encounter her. The doctors later on became mindless brain suckers, craving knowledge. So Ebrietas was of no use anymore. Now she just sits in her altar of despair, mourning over her child's body, thinking of her family, realizing how alone she really is, until we come along being the heartless demons we are in souls games and start attacking her. Fights only in defense, then dies.
Isn't Rom someone who ascended?
I love the bloodborne lore to bad your not making Bloodborne video's anymore
Dio Dolmans it is such a great game. It makes me sad it died out so quickly lore videos and following wise. I can't find anyone on ng plus 5 to come along with me. D:
\[Y]/ Praise the sun what are you saying?there are TONS of people still playing the game pvp and pve.ive found so many matches and co-op partners where ever i ring my siniser/resonant bells......
\[Y]/ Praise the sun its not dead....
Dead? HA. I see so many people playing this game on the daily. People resonate with sinister bells all the time!
it literally takes me 15-20 minutes to find another player at bl120.
Logarius is the most epic character in a video game.
I wish he used the wheel during his boss fight encounter.
So, apparently Alfred was supposed to be somewhat like Solaire. A "good natured" fellow out on a quest. "Praise the good blood". And Alfred's voice actor is the same as Solaire's. But I find Alfred to be an ominous character and I don't feel that warmth for him that I feel towards Solaire. I don't mind that he ends up a bloody heap.
+HeavenhoundVII 9:16, to me it's enough that Alfred is psycho XD
+HeavenhoundVII Solaire definitely gave off a much nicer vibe than Alfred haha, Solaria didn't seem so maniacal
Scream Like You Mean It Unless you let the Sunlight Maggot get to him =[
Or the Red Chaos Bug...? Something like that. The Sunlight Maggot is the helmet. But yeah, depressing D=
***** I saw that :c i was like nooooooo!!!
+HeavenhoundVII Well, this universe is inspired by Lovecraft's work. Every religion in those stories are pretty macabre and bordering the insane. Both Solaire and Alfred are devoted to religion, but while Solaire is simply a good doer and believes in arthurian codes of honor, Alfred follows a sect that worships blood. Healing with blood, but still blood nonetheless. It's already pretty macabre right there. After all, where does the "good blood" come from?
EDIT: Anyway, my point is, Alfred is too crazy and too mental to ever be trusted, even if he never directly harms you. Solaire was naive, but not insane. He was an innocent knight, not a murderer. No matter the comparisons, Alfred and Solaire are far from being similar
The only disappointing part of the whole revive Queen Annalise quest is she doesn't say anything about it. No thanks, no confusion, no comment for somehow coming back from being a pile of pink pulp.
Great video, as always, VV!
BallotBoxer Because her existence back in time and to her it was like nothing ever happened.
BallotBoxer Because it's happened many times before, to the point where she thinks nothing of it, most likely.
@@Aelesis no, it is because she can't remember any reviving things that happened. For her, she didn't die. She is not dead and will never be from her POV. So even if you revive her a million times, she will not remember any of it. It's a "back-in-time" process.
Idk if it's a translation error, but playing the game in italian she just told me "you are insane" once revived. Maybe it had to do with me killing alfred right away in the trone room
Has anyone considered that Eileen might have hunted Alfred for becoming crazed from his 'victory' over Annalise?
Nah he turns up dead even if Eileen is out of the picture
Interesting theory, but her being alive doesn't change anything about his Quest
Thanks Vaati
LoneWolfKTG thats okay happy frog
VaatiVidya that is not just any frog. that is a pepe if you like it you get good luck
LoneWolfKTG feelsgoodman
***** hes not rare he appears in every fucking comment section
VaatiVidya it's a very rare kind of youtube pepe, liking one of its comments gives you fortune and success for 10 years
Pity Annalise is prevented from playing a better political game. She has all the makings of a really magnificent villain. But alas, she is shut in by Logarius, and is never seen saying anything to anyone save you. Headcanon commencing: The hunter does not walk in on a bloodstained Alfred, having "killed" the queen and gloating. However, we see the queen taunting him about his poor master, alone in the cold for years on end. How he had suffered. How Alfred had failed to find him and lay him to rest. On and on until Alfred snaps and smashes her to bits (which of course we see in all its glory). Then Alfred sees you, gives a truncated victory speech and is off on his way. Then as we turn around to leave, we hear a whispered "wait..." While the camera could not see Annalise's body, an item appeared there. The Queenly Flesh. This is the point where the hunter makes the choice to aid Annalise, the vampire-esque Queen of the Vilebloods, or Alfred, the militant Executioner. And then it plays out as in the video.
I want this to be a thing
Landis963
***** Such a partnership may be short-lived.
Landis963 Long live the Vilebloods! Eternal curses upon the church. Become a Vileblood.
Vampires and Werewolves all over again LOL.
Or a better ally considering what we know of the church/Alfred's response
I don't know why, but I draw a parallel between the Executioner invasion of Cainhurst, and the siege of Sen's Fortress by the Knights of Berenike. Both Cainhurst and Sen's are sealed off, not allowing just anybody to wander in, and at the top of both castles, there lies a guardian protecting something hidden from the rest of the land below. As far as we know, both invasions weren't entirely successful, as Alfred seems to be the only executioner left, and there are only a handful of unhollowed Berenike Knights left in Lordran. It's interesting to note how similar the two events seem to be.
***** Yes, but the original intent was to destroy the Vilebloods, not leave one left standing. And the argument could be made that Tarkus was also successful in getting to Anor Londo, but for the most part, the Berenike Knights were fought off. And it's clear not all the Executioners weren't unscathed. You can find a dead one in Cainhurst, and if there are others alive, where did they go? If they love martyrdom so much, why aren't there more Executioners in Yharnam trying to free their Master Logarius? Perhaps it's from a gameplay standpoint that Alfred is the only one we find, but still, the two events seem similar, at least to me.
Bishop Havel What was hidden in sen's fortress? Just because it's guarded doesn't mean it is hidden. The Berenike raided the castle TO FIND anor londo. Therefore meaning they knew it was there
K What I mean is that Sen's isn't just guarded, but actually getting inside isn't possible if you're just a random traveler (i.e Seigmeyer). Special requirements need to be met before getting inside. Granted, I don't know how the Berenikes actually got in, nor do we know how all of the Executioners got to Cainhurst. I guess you're right in regards to Anor Londo though, I was thinking that the means of actually getting there was hidden, and not the goal itself.
+Havel The Rock. You Can't Stop The Rock. I looked at your channel to see what the rock is cooking
+Havel The Rock. You Can't Stop The Rock.
ayy lmao
Ok, so tell me if I'm overthinking this, but is it possible that the one who brought the forbidden blood to Cainhurst was the Impostor Iosefka?
Firstly, From her garb, she was obviously a member of the Choir, which has its ties to Willem and Bergenwerth.
Secondly, If killed before the bloodmoon, she drops an Oedon Writhe rune, whose lore states "Both Oedon, and his inadvertent worshippers, surreptitiously seek the precious blood." Could this be a reference to blood Dregs?
Thirdly, When fighting her, Iosefka uses Numbing mist, which is a closely guarded Cainhurst recipe, and she herself seems immune to its affects as she will heal even if it is used on her.
Finally, you find the Cainhurst summons on the table next to the door she stands by through most of the game, but it was not there when we first awoke, so it is most likely that she is the one who brought it there.
Tell me, does this theory hold water?
That's a solid theory. The only thing that's confusing is how the letter was addressed to us and now iosefka. Everything else makes perfect sense and fits in without any problem.
It's good, but a tad against the timeline, the choir is likely formed many decades after the byrgenwerth betrayal
@@survive1997 Is there a way to get the Cainhurst Letter without first interacting with the imposter at the door? Because she could have learned about you from those interactions. I just always interact with her before sneaking inside so I can get her information to correctly send the old man to the Cathedral Ward, and also send the beast-man there on NG+ playthroughs.
@@johannschmidt5305 yeah u can
There probably is some sort of "magic" in these invitations, as the one you give to Alfred was, most likely, addressed to him, even though there is no way to confirm (due to it being sealed), and he is a loyal member of the church (so there isn't any reason for someone from cainhurst to invite him there)
Alfred is my favorite character in this game. He's fuxking awesome.
agree
A real Patrick Bateman type, isn't he?
Eileen is my favorite.
Akane Sasu Sora e
What the Fuck.. ^^When did i comment this Lol??
Temerians...
Motherfucking Roche!
lol
Lmao
***** Hey, he helped me get Whoreson Jr, we're cool for it lol
***** Broche*
AlexhandrDenthanor
Didn't know space marines could view all this heresy on youtube
why has he not made more of these :( I love these and Bloodborne more than all the spuls games...
i think the thing is with Bloodborne, compared to the other games in the souls series, it doesn't have the same depth to it. sure you can dig up the story like in the souls games but there's just not as much there
yeah I guess :(
+shimmyking4 but there is still some amazing prepare to cry material in characters like ludwig, gehrman and maria. Sure, vaati has gone through the entire history of bloodborne and i dont think there is much material left on that front, some amazing characters still wait their individual prepare to cry videos.
Here's hoping for Bloodborne 2! :D
not happening
Alfred goes hard in the paint. He's the MVP of any team.
Esketit
Excellent video, as always. I wish there were more of them!
***** Workin on it!
+VaatiVidya nice ! :D
VaatiVidya pleeeeease do more :´´things you missed in...``
I think that's the point, he's more like a twisted reflection of solaire, something just slightly off until his zealotry and brutality are finally revealed
Ok, new Bloodborne fan here just on my first ng+
Time for Vaati story telling marathon.. Subbed
Is that the voice actor for Solaire?
Yup
Yep and they placed Alfred in a similar area to where Solaire is encountered
+Xplosive Baggins Praise the Sun \[+]/
Matt Cee El The Queen is the same voice actor as Shalquoir in Majula.
Matt Cee El Yap, praise the wheel!
Hi VaatiVidya. Thank you for all your efforts in producing a top quality, well thought out, well researched TH-cam video series. I look forward to your future endeavors.
Jim Dugan Thank you Jim, it's a pleasure to produce them for you :)
+VaatiVidya well with dark souls 3 coming out there will be alot of new lore but first everyone get you toilots and pizza boxes and get ready to lock your doors for a few days for when dark souls 3 comes out
After coming back from elden ring, his quest really does well paralleling with D, Beholder of death. They even sound the same to a extent
8:00 "Praise the good blood".
Me: PRAISE THE FUCKING SUN YOU HERETIC!
Praise the moon scrub
Lucas Lucas Honest trailer or...?
HERETIC!
Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne! Souls for the Lawyers!
ThermoBlade SUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNN
Did a priest a little someone with a big sword killed come too mind.?
So vilebloods are vampires?
Yes and the church went with wolves.
Allen White it's the classic story of Vampires vs. Werewolves vs. Cthulhu all over again! How did I not notice this before!?
Android 19 The plague makes people turn into werewolves, the people of Yharnam(Yharnamites?) technically count as vampires already. Vilebloods are basically that on steroids. They are the Alucard/Pillar Men to the Yharnamite's ghouls/vampires.
Malcom Alexander makes sense.
+Malcom Alexander
AWAKEN MY QUEEN!
The voice acting after he killed the Queen always gives me the shiver, so well done.
Is it ever explained why the Queen has to wear that helmet?
She's a hollow
Waldicky Limbong what does that mean?
@@Josh0.93
Dark Souls 3 reference I suppose.
It blocks her mouth to prevent her from drinking blood
when Alfred killed queen annalise I was like “how could you do such a thing” and I killed him but I never paid attention to his name which shows he is a vile blood hunter
Ye. He hunts Vilebloods. The superior faction.
Your Bloodborne "Lore" videos sucked me in and are the reason I became a subscriber. Bloodborne was my introduction to the "Souls" games. I haven't played anything besides Bloodborne so far but I got hooked on it. Your videos are absolutely fantastic and the quality of them is outstanding. Thank you. Wish I had thought to do this first for my channel but viva le difference.
Man, I don't know what it is - but your voice is incredibly calming. You could narrate the end of the world and it would still be calm and reassuring.
Please do a Prepare to Cry video on Arianna. I think her being horrified by her celestial child perfectly pulls at one's heart strings.
I want the dlc/expansion to be about Cainhurst and Vilebloods. They deserve a bit more developement.
I think Laurence was the one who took the "forbidden blood" to Cainhurst. Before the rise of the Healing Church and the building of Yharnam, I think Byrgenwyrth received the patronage of the Cainhurst monarchy, which was typical of scientific/scholarly institutions in Bloodborne's sort of era.
I think the Byrgenwyrth scholars were obligated to share their findings with their patron, the Cainhurst queen and her court, but Willem thought the world was not ready to learn of the elder blood and wanted to hide the secrets of tombs. But, in opposition to this, Laurence believed it their duty to report back to the Cainhurst court, so he set out to share their discovery with them and leaving his colleague, promised not to forget their adage. He would continue to fear the old blood, but, unfortunately, his patron would not be so cautious.
Alfred's monologue when he kills Annalise is honestly the worst chills I've ever felt in a fromsoft game. It was extremely unsettling and I loved it.
I love the lore of Bloodborne. I really wish Vaati would do more of these for Bloodborne
I love how you make it seem like we’re watching a story with the gameplay
Oh fucking hell, after seeing the ladder clip with his helmet. I cant look at him seriously anymore ;___;
I think the person who brought the forbidden blood to Cainhurst Castle was Runesmith Caryll. He must of been caught by the witches of Hemwick after returning from Cainhurst at the waypoint where you depart for the castle.
Maybe Caryll thought that Willem and Laurence were not his equals and the Runes and language itself was the key to heighten mankind. After all Nobles are always presumed to be everyone's betters skilled in tongue and bettered by their own lineage.
After all we are all bound by blood so giving the nobles of Cainhurst blood of the Gods would best help mankind since they are thought to be the best. It might of explained why the Church declared Cainhurst enemies and rivals.
Just a thought anyone got any ideas?.
+Sega Sailor That actually makes a lot of sense. I think you're onto something there.
+AstralMuffin105 Looking deeper at the pics (Both Cainhurst summons, look at the seals) more can be drawn on.
Annalise became the benefactor, the traitor clearly Runesmith Caryll was paid and owed allegiance to Annalise who used the forbidden blood to secure her position as queen. She threw out and degraded the other nobles (look at the blood of Arianna and Adella and Alfred) all nobles of Cainhurst begin with the letter A.
When Caryll saw his mistake he tried to correct it using runes to communicate with the great ones but failed, retreating from Castle Cainhurst he was mobbed by the townsfolk (witch-hunt) and killed.
Lawrence saw the new Queen and her creatures and thus founded the Church using another blood, hence Healing church to undo what Caryll did. They say necessity is the mother of invention.
Willem never knew what became of Caryll hence "Master Willem would of been proud"
The executioners are kind of like old knights of medieval Europe, men who want Martyrdom men who want to die for God.
This must of happened long before the Healing Church became powerful which makes me wonder how much time has passed since the Vilebloods and the coming of the Healing Church.
The seals on the summons tell alot, one is new sealed in red with a duel lion crest from Queen Annalise the older one is tattered like a 100 year old letter faded and sealed in blue with an unknown crest with no name on it.
I think I watch these vids every summer. Idk why but I always do a play through it Souls and Bloodborne during summer. Something to get me through summer waiting for new releases in the fall. Love the channel my dude
These are all just of epic quality. Narration, soundtrack, video editing, well done sir!
gained 1+ insight after watching this video
Watching this after a lot of playthroughs, I think that if there's a Bloodborne II, there are two narrative possibilities: Taking place in the Pthumerian society, or during the war between Cainhurst and the Church. It would be awesome if, like in Sekiro, in certain part of the game you should take the decision of fighting alongside Cainhurst or The Church...
I hope they make a Blood Borne 2 I feel like the writers have so much more to explore and while I love the souls series I felt that Blood Borne's setting was very unique and explored elements that haven't really been explored in games
they will, i mean, they pretty much connected flawlessly sulyvahn's beasts to the great ones and the old wolf to the curse of the bests, they just need to make bloodborne 2 and give us actual proof and then they'd have an inter-connected multiverse.
and anyway there are pretty convincing rumors around about it being announced at E3.
This is unbelievably good...I didnt catch any of this from my 6 or so playthroughs. Its almost a shame that most people would usually miss this lore.
that was so well told and written and good tidbits of gameplay; i havent even played the game and im getting goosebumps. You always have great content, thanks!
Why hasn't he made a 'prepare to cry' episode for Ludwig yet? We need it.
NGL I literally didn't know cainhurst was in the game until 5 years later
Lol ouch. I’m slightly jealous though. I wish there was still new content for me to discover.
Assuming that Annalise is the inspired by Erzsébet Bathory, I always saw in the ghosts in the castle more young girls killed by the Queen for their blood than noble women.
This is just proving that Hidetaka Miyazaki is genius, alongside with his From Software team. Never have I in a game had to collect little pieces of lore, and then like place it in right order like a puzzle so you can understand it. One of my favorite videos of yours is that about Pinwheel in Dark Souls, proves how good researcher you are . Every other game just throws its lore at you at begging of game, or it's usually really easy to find out whats going on. I can't but not to think about Series as work of art.
Im going to every Bloodborne Story video. Because of how interesting the lore and story of Bloodborne really is.
Sweet Vaati made a new Vidya :D
Unbelievable, I totally missed this during my first run. Amazing how FromSoftware hides an entire area (perhaps even the very best area) in there game! Bloodborne is a true masterpiece
Vaati, I think the world deserves a video on Iosefka and her imposter. pretty plz?
Will we see a video for Valtr? He contrasts Alfred beautifully, Alfred appears to be a man of goodness and dutiful faith. You find that, though he does not deceive you, there is more than meets the eye...a fanaticism and fervour that makes him merciless.
Whereas, I believe, his counterpart Valtr is, like Alfred, devoted to the point of appearing fanatical. But you find his sign before Ludwig and offers Confederates to your aid. He delivers guidance and an unyielding loyalty.
Both Alfred and Valtr are passionate men bound by duty, but Valtr never lost himself in his faith, nor the hunt itself. But Alfred's desire to be canonized like his mentor leads him to act at the limits of his mores.
I think just as Alfred is a meaningful character, so too is his counterpart. A man who consumed a beast as the ultimate act of hate, an extension of his loyalty to his fellow compatriot.
Is Valtr just an eccentric?
Valtr is Valtr
i honestly like this channel mainly because how well spoken Vaati is. Such an awesome story teller.
you should do one for gerhman
I concur
I thought he had?......Oh...I get it. >_
I had no idea any of this was even in the game
There's not necessarily a third man who betrayed the school. It's possible that it's Laurence himself, especially since we know he had to meet Gherman and Maria and get the cord that allowed communion with the moon presence somewhere (before bloodborne was patched the description of the cord that you find in the shop said that it came from Cainhurst, which would explain why Analise and her followers are so adamant on giving her a child of blood, because she already did it once. And why she refuses to be proposed to by you saying that she doesn't want to hurt you. Most likely what killed her first husband the king of Cainhurst in the first place. Also that Analise recognized the ring and what it's for means that she knows about the pthumeru and if she is their descendant than that explains why she's immortal and why Laurence would want to visit her in the first place. And don't forget. This woman recognized the scent of the moon on you. She knows.
to me, Alfred's entire story is just squidward pointing and laughing
I must say, Vaati! These videos are some of the best produced videos i have ever seen on youtube! The way you capture the feeling of the game, with your storytelling, the music in the background, and the incredible camera angles! everything is perfect! And i really hope you continue to make Bloodborne videos even after Dark Souls 3 comes out! (at least now, with the DLC coming up, and all) The Lore videos and every single video you have produced, just have this amazing feeling and atmosphere, that truly capture the feeling of the game! Hands down some of the best content i have ever seen! Well done, sir! Keep it up!!
hey, I know these Bloodborne videos are kinda old now and you've mostly been doing Dark Souls 3 stuff nowadays, but would you ever consider doing a lore video on Micolash? I know there's less information on him than other characters, but he's such a strange cryptic character and I'd love to fully understand what his deal was.
Dovahcat Best I can figure he is the host of the nightmare, and Mergo is using his dream to grow, thus keeping his mind alive even though his body is long dead. When you kill him there is no host save maybe Mergo herself/himself. Kill the wet nurse, and Mergo has no hold on the nightmare and cannot grow anymore.
what about the brain of mensis? and aren't both the hunter's nightmare and hunter's dream places with hosts too? what about nightmare frontier? is it directly connected to the nightmare of mensis or is the host there either patches or amygdala?
i actually would like to know more about how nightmares function rather than about micolash himself, we might know the details about him, but overall we know who he was and what he did for... mostly, what reasons, but we know nothing about the nightmares, absolutely nothing.
They should make a proper lore storybook for these games
It's good to know you love Cainhurst as much as I do haha
Just finished watching all 4 of these videos. just have 2 things to say. 1. I love the way you edit these helps really pull you in to the store. and 2. You have the perfect voice to narrate these videos.
your voice is so soothing, enough to a beast to sleep.
One thing is unanswered; what exactly is the 'forbidden' blood? If the Healing Church is founded on the use of the Old Blood, then what marks the forbidden blood as special? Is it the blood of Yharnam, Pthumerian Queen in particular?
PoliteTimesplitter I believe you're correct! There are a ton of links between Yharnam's blood and annalises blood. I might detail them in another vid
VaatiVidya Also the Chikage's blood mode gives of rapid poison similar to Yharnam's blood attacks.
VaatiVidya are vilebloods basically good
football frenzy there more in the grey area than anything else
please vaaaati
For any of you that are still playing this game, "may the good blood guide your way"
benbelap I just beat it yesterday and it’s probably one of the most satisfying feelings
I beat it 3 days ago and I'm doing another play through.
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Got the first ending yesterday. Now going after the second one
VaatiVidya im going through my 2nd playthrough on bloodborne and just wanted to say that I enjoy the storytelling on these BB videos. They provide a lot of insight and turns out I missed out so many things on my 1st playthrough. Keep up the goodwork!
Was there a pun?
I very much disagree with this interpretation of Logarius for a number of reasons. The first being Alfred's dialogue: "In his time, Master Logarius led his executioners into Cainhurst Castle to cleanse it of the Vilebloods. _But all did not go well_ and Master Logarius became a blessed anchor, guarding us from evil...Tragic, tragic times...that Master Logarius should be abandoned in the accursed domain of the Vilebloods. I must free him, so that he may be properly honored in martyrdom." This bit of dialogue is important for a number reasons, 1) Alfred doesn't actually _say_ what went wrong, only that something did indeed occur that resulted in the failure of the executioners' raid against cainhurst castle, and 2) it may have been _one single event_ that effectively turned the tide of the battle; some unexpected occurance that led to defeat of the executioners. Also, bear in mind that Alfred is searching "for the path to cainhurst castle". If Alfred was a part of the raid, wouldn't he already know the path there? It's clear that he was not there, and very likely that what he gathered was hearsay, so his interpretation of events is not entirely reliable. It's also apparent that the "all did not go well" wasn't the residents of cainhurst transforming: many of the executioners' gear, from garb to their famous (or infamous) arcane gauntlets, are stored away within chests, which implies that cainhurst was still doing relatively well if they can store their foes' gear as symbols of triumph.
Another piece of info is Logarius's own characterization: his famous quote "Acts of goodness are not always wise. and acts of evil are not always foolish, but regardless, we shall always strive to be good." This is an extremely important quote towards understanding Logarius. This does not strike me as words of conviction, but rather as whispers of doubt. By the healing church's standards, killing the vilebloods would be seen as an act of great good, and the vilebloods using their strain of old blood is an act of great evil, _yet_ if Logarius is stating his own rather morality of good not always being wise and evil not always being foolish, what could this say about his views about the vilebloods and the executioners? Does he think vilebloods are monsters and executioners as heroes, or does he believe that their respective actions are a little more ambiguous then they originally appear? Are the executioners right to impose reckless violence, or is there something that their perceived view of "good" cannot currently comprehend?
Finally, there's the crown of illusions: "One of the precious secrets of Cainhurst. The old king's crown is said to reveal illusions, and expose a mirage that hides a secret.
And so Logarius donned the crown of his own volition, determined to prevent a single soul from stumbling upon the vile secret.
What visions did he see, sitting serenely upon his new throne?"
Something to note is that this crown is designed to reveal illusions, illusions that could threaten cainhurst if discovered. That means that Logarius himself _could not have created the illusion of the queen's throne room, as said illusion was always there_. The idea of him "sealing the queen away" doesn't make sense in this context, as her being hidden inside her throne room was essentially the status quo. Another part is the final line of Logarius "_sitting serenely upon his new throne_". Serenely...a very strange adjective to describe a man whom is supposedly suffering. He is not anxious, or worried, or determined, but _serene_...as if all went exactly according to plan. Note his appearance as well: he does not look like a beast from Yharnam. In fact, he looks very familiar...almost like certain ghostly darkbeast nobles we find within cainhurst's walls...
Also, here is one final question, one that puts Logarius's role under scrutiny:
Why is he sitting on an elaborate throne? Not a simple chair..._but a throne_...
I know this is a 3 year old comment, but I only got to play Bloodborne for the first time recently, and this seems like the only comment that's in line with my initial reaction. Going in blind, I sincerely thought that Logarius was protecting Queen Annalise from the outside, not the other way around.
Obviously it's not really touched on outside of implications - Queen Annalise doesn't so much as mention anything outside of her disdain towards the church, and doesn't seem to have an opinion on Logarius personally, whether good or bad. But it really did seem like Logarius, for all intents and purposes, was the "King" of Cainhurst. Did he fall unrequited love for Annalise, or become "corrupted" in some way? I guess we'll never truly know.
Outstanding! Like always.
Keep up the good work Vaati !
always good to see a new lore video, actually just finished this storyline, cool to see more lore. Thanks vaati
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STORY TIME :) READ ME A BED TIME STORY VAATI
"Blood" was said 30 times in this 11 minute video (yes, I did count)
Man! Bloodborne is by far the dopest game I've played in a while! It took me years to finally get around to playing it! Luv this game!
I really appreciate your videos, thank you so much. All i'd say as a side note is i would love some more demon's souls or dark souls lore. Maybe Priscilla or Seath? I've always wondered about Ornstein and Smough. Thanks again! Keep on being awesome.
i say we do pricilla next
0:01 I swear I thought he said "first came the age of fire"
2:53 you want those echoes? no? OK.
I love learning lore of different games, but I haven't really found anyone that presents the lore like you do. It might be because its only the certain games I'm looking up but ehhh. Really appreciate the professionalism :) You do you!
Alfred crushing the Queen is one of the great transformations I’ve seen in video games
....why would i want to revive the queen?
***** so why would i let Alfred kill her in the first place then?
VenomtheOne So that he kills himself, you get a rune, and the Vilebloods walk away unopposed.
Anand Richardson ah,k...k....
***** You don't need to revive her to become a Vileblood Hunter. You just accept yourself to her the first time you kneel for her after beating Logarius.
+VenomtheOne I just kept her in my pocket, and queens have subjects.. her's are all dead, she's more a waste of space now. Even if I was Vileblood, why not just overthrow and make myself the new Vileblood master? Either way she's a smug bitch.
The scene where Alfred pulverizes Annalise is maybe my favorite in the game. so fucking METAL.
Also is Annalise voice by the same person who voiced the forest cat from Dark Souls? whose name i cant remember but you know what i mean.
The cats name is Alvina.
Matt Fletcher Diffrent people Alvina is voiced by Eve Karpf and Annalise is voiced by Jenny Funnell
Jenny has also voiced Darkmoon Knight, Quelana of Izalith in ds1 and Yuria the witch in demons souls
Matt Fletcher Same here. So brutal. Alfred's voice acting is fucking on point too
VaatiVidya Thats my favorite part of this probably. Itd be so easy to make these lines cheesy as hell but it just works so well.
Vaati, perfect video as always. Would be great if there were more. Cainhurst is my favourite location. Just a quick question, at 3:46, it looks as if you are at Hemwick charnel lane, if so is Cainhurst visible from there? It's really cool I've never noticed before. Well that's it, great video man. Thanks :)
Yes. Cainhurst Castle is visible from Hemwick Charnel Lane.