I don't know if anybody else pointed this out so far, but I just recently realised something. Remember where and how you find Eileen next to the huge storage building watching into the distance. You know about the 2 corpses dangling around there? Those are the only 2 corpses in the entire game you have to cut free for loot, also take into consideration what they drop and look like. Both wear hunter attire and one of them has even a hunters weapon on himself. The way they're hung up is also very elaborate and sophesticated compared to every other hanging corpse in the game where they're just roped like a Piece of meat, sometimes even upside down. My take on that is, that those two hunters where Eileens Prey and that she did the "sky burial" ritual with them, another hint on what Eileen is and what she does.
@@laziwastaken Though notice how the beasts are strung " Up like the filthy beasts " they are, through out all of Central Yharnam. It does make sense Eileen would have hung those bodies up but as you attack her her words reflect the beasthood she senses growing in you.
Maybe a sky burial drains you of all your blood so you can't heal/ gain beast mode in the final moments of death? And if hunters turn into the worst beasts then the extra effort and precautions are warranted?
yes, but before that he shoots at you just for being in the area, that is not something a sane person does, he's all like "I just want to protect those people and keep you from killing them" but he shoots at you even if you don't kill any of them. ~
Is this actually a From software story that has a somewhat happy ending? I mean I realize she dies, but she gets to complete her life's work and die content. That's more than most of their characters get.
you could say that Alfred's story gets a "happy", altough distorted ending. He has finished his life's task by grinding Annalise into non-existance, and by doing so, honors his master
You can actually cheese that fight with the Augur of Ebrietas. His ai will generally run straight at you, so if you just wait until he’s close and then use the augur, you can strike through his guard and attacks and knock him down. The damage dealt is fair if you’ve sunk some levels into arcane. This strategy also works on all the other npc hunters you encounter in the game world.
Gehrman should be far older than Eileen. Considering how many gravestones are in the hunter’s dream, Gehrman has to have lived far longer than any regular human can. And while Eileen is old, it makes more sense for her to have been a hunter of the dream only to have died in the dream(like the death ending) so that she could become a hunter of hunters, and her name was left on one of the hundreds of headstones in the dream.
Eileen is thus far still my favorite character ever made in any "souls" game, mainly because of the end of her quest line, but you left out one thing Vaati, the fact she's gone when you return.. Of all the characters you fight, she's the only main NPC Character that vanishes from the world, when you return to the tombs and the yellow cloaked hunter spawns, a pile of clothing is behind where he spawns, that clothing is Father Gascoigne, Upon killing the yellow hunter, his body lays next to Father's clothing. Should you kill Djura his body rests next to the Gatling gun... Her's is despawned, it vanishes never to be seen again, so even after everything after passing the torch... she's alive, and if not, let's say she did die, perhaps she infact returned to the sky.
She probably just retired, considering the fact that she gives you her badge and the rune of her covenant, and the fact that some item descriptions mention that there is always only one Hunter of Hunters
I think that she may have died, but was at peace finally. I think it's mentioned somewhere that Eileen is the last of the Crow Hunters, and with this particular hunt turning nearly every hunter you meet blood-addled, she cannot leave her duty to dispose of them. Since the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst wore the crowfeather garb, he was probably a comrade of Eileen's. Before you came along she thought there was no more hope of her possibly succeeding against the blood-addled hunters; she was aged and tired, her only surviving comrade had become a Vileblood, and as she said to us she can not return to the Hunter's Dream. But knowing her duty was passed to us, she was able to die at peace, which I don't think any other character does.
@@DavidVillaTorre Djura was already too far gone. He genuinely believed the beasts of Old Yharnam were still humans deep down. His hope slowly drove him to insanity, so killing him would be granting him mercy before he himself turns into a beast.
My personal theory is that hunters who become connected to the dream: 1) can't die 2) cannot become beast (in form, that is. They can still become beasts in mind) Therefore, this is what happens: a hunter becomes "blood-addled", Gehrman cuts them out of the dream to make them mortal, A Hoonter of Hoonters disposes of them
ExistentialOcto no, because a hunter of hunters has no contact within the dream. Even if they once did. Also not all hunters go to the dream, just a few do. D'jura, Eileen, and the player character, being good examples. What a blood-addled hunter is, is a hunter about to turn into a beast, a famous example, Gascoigne. I.E someone who is so drunk with blood, that they are turning into the monsters that they once hunted. But not all hunters who are killed by the hunter of hunters are blood-addled, sometimes they are killed because they no longer follow the oath of a hunter, popular example, D'jura.
Another example that when hunters become TOO blood Addled they are sent to the hunters nightmare which is an endless hunt where they can cause no harm to people when the hunt is over
@@thesilentgamer2267 It seems to be that hunters end up here when they finally die, only to have their lust for blood manifest as actual "blood-addled-ness" (or whatever you want to call it). I didn't ever get the idea that hunters were sent there on purpose in the way that they're sent to the dream. It's an eternally recurring hell, not a "safe zone" where they can't harm people, I don't think.
I dont wanna say it because I have played some great games but I'm thinking the same thing and to think a month ago I bought and returned this game a day later because I thought it was stupidly frustrating. Thank God I came back to my senses and bought it right back, looked up guides and slowly but surely made my way to the end and now, I just beat Vicar Amelia in NG+ on my first try. Hell, every boss I've fought so far in NG+ aside from Blood Starved Beast, I've beaten in my first try, I've officially gotten good.
Same I had this game then for some reason out of the blue I was craving it. Then I was finally able to make it past the first mob then to father Gascoigne.. as soon as I beat him I was hooked.
ONE THING WRONG WITH THIS; he hasn't mastered the art of quickening, he's merely mimicking it by borrowing the arcane power of an Old Hunter's Bone. The only people who have innate quickening are Maria, Gehrman, and the old hunters in the Hunter's Nightmare. Otherwise great work!
Do we see him use / pop the bone's power? Or is it always on? If it's always on, I'd say he's pretty well mastered it. If not (i.e. if we can see him use it), then no. It's been a while since I fought him, though, so I don't recall!
Mikey Fine Same here, friend. My belief is that she recovered enough because of that blood she took, and then got away to safety, where she planned to live out the rest of her days in peace, away from the Hunt and her duties to end the madness of other Hunters.
Mikey Fine "as she finds her eyes become heavier, she closes her eyes thinking she is going to sleep. yet, those eyes will never open searching for the rayof sun" sorry. just wanna make it a bit dramatic
I hope that the Doll is the one before that. I can just see her now, transformed into a Sasori-like murder puppet with a million tricks and weapons hidden eveywhere.
You take up the mantle of Rom and discard your humanity to gain power to actually shift the situation and take control out of the other Old Ones's hands in that ending. If you go up against that, that puts you on the side of the bad guys - welp, against humanity, at least -, I think. I mean, would you do it with the knowledge that you're quite possibly recreating the Gascoigne family tragedy on a mass scale with your victory?
Peter E Man, I see people complaining about how Dark Souls 3 is the new Bloodborne 2 and now here you are trying to make Bloodborne 2 the new Dark Souls 3.
TheNinjaDC OHBOY madhouse eh? we'd probably get 12 episodes up of adventuresup until the cleric beast and then a "tune-in next season" even though it actually just ended
@@VaatiVidya What is the lore behind the tree women in painted world of Ariandel ? Is Gertrude The angel in the poison swamp of the dreg heep ? Why Patches killed Greirat in The Grand Archives ? Why does Sirris of the sunless realms want to kill The Abyss Watchers ? and why she hates fingers of Rosarai ?
"when you wake it's difficult to remember what you dreamed about." holy sh*t that line plus the background music gave me f*cking chills brava vaati brava one of your best lines in one of your best videos
Lucky Ocelot LOL actually I had some good experience in PVP for the most part, my very first PVP in bloodborne when I got to the nightmare frontier an invader stood back and let me deal with the regular enemies and even let me heal first. I NEVER had a moment like that in any other game.
Lucky Ocelot I thought we all got to the conclusion that everyone should just play however the fuck he wants even if he wants to play according to his honor code or is gank in the forest like years ago.
Mordor's Morlord because timestamps don't work with Google+. It just reloads the page and I'm not going to reload the page for "blurred", it's easier to assume and say whoops.
You know what I've been thinking? Hunters go mad from the blood lust after killing many beasts during the Hunt. The blood sings to them. You could say it *echoes*. The Hunters who have gone mad usually pose a big danger on your journey. Sometimes it seems just so unfair, you are vastly outmatched; they seem to be *levels* above you. Some of them possesses outrageous *Vitality* (Crow of Cainhurst, I’m looking at you, you asshat). What if Eileen was so weak compared to her targets was because she refused to slay the beasts unless she had to. She refused to let the blood echo within her. And what are you doing for hours on end? Slaying the same beasts over and over to get their blood echoes to level up. Perhaps you have fallen to the blood as well.... Just something I thought of while grinding for echoes. Don’t take it seriously. ;)
I'm so fucking upset that my Eileen died. I went to watch her kill Henryk and didn't help and she died! I didn't know she could die! I legit almost cried.
Hel Heim The best way to do it is to warp in from the Cathedral Ward lantern and backtrack to where he is. Drop in from behind him "Where you find the red brooch". Backstab then visceral attack him. After that just throw in 2 or 3 attacks to bring him down to just a few points of health. You can do all of that before Eileen shows up. Then just back off and let her finish him.
pr0xy Thanks. I wish I would have known that. It's too late now, I don't wanna restart and I'm a lot further now. I didn't know she could die and I didn't know I could even see the fight. She told me to stay away, and after running around a bit I figured eh what the hell and went to go watch. I stood there for like a minute just watching and then she died. I was so shocked and sad that I let that happen. I thought she had it. It sucked big time.
Hel Heim I hear ya. Well there's always next time if you decide to play again in New Game+ I actually ended up killing her my first play through. You can damage her while you two are fighting Henryk. She went down before he did. lol
I liked Eileen a lot, she was one of the few characters that wants to help you and she had a heavy burden to carry. The way she wants you to keep your hands clean while she deals with the hunters who couldn't stand the beast. I always thought she was the only hunter of hunters and that she pass on that duty to you, if you want to do it. Like the covenant master if this was more like dark souls.
When I screwed up on my second play-through and had to kill Eileen, I was heartbroken. She's my favourite character and my fight with her is still one of my favourite fights in the entire game, despite how much I hate myself for having to kill her. The fight went for nearly 30 straight minutes because we couldn't hit one another, and as we both had the crow-feather garb, it quickly became a flurry of feathers and I kept losing track of who was who between all the dodging and swiping. Absolutely badass fight.
What is the real purpose of the hunt? When men are killing beasts, their bloodlust turn them into those very monsters. The hunt create more things to hunt. So, why is there a hunt?
Marcos Lima That's pretty much why. They can't stop it so the only thing they can do is keep fighting and killing beasts till the end to keep yharnam civil.
Cause the blood moon wants the hunt. That's why there is a hunt . The Doll says she had been there for centuries , watching countless hunters . But Gehrman has not been imprisoned for that long , only 2-3 generation of hunters have passed. This same thing has occurred before in history . The paleblood sky and the moon presence hunting other infant great ones . This was just another repeat of that . That's why I think the ascension ending is the best .
My headcanon is that Eileen is alive and went to Gascoigne's home to become the adoptive parent of the two little girls, with us, the player, never telling them about what happened to their parents. She is retired, realizing that her age has finally caught up to her, and decides to spend her life as the parent of the two girls who unfortunately lost their mother, father, and grandfather to that long, cruel night. And honestly, I don't think it would be out of her bound for her to do this, considering how kind she is, and the fact the children are Henryck's granddaughter, who must have been a close friend to Eileen, considering their age.
I was surprised playing Bloodborne for the second time. I was convinced I would be killing mostly beasts as I remembered it, but through the game I realized how very few real beasts are there, if any at all, and noticed I mostly slayed what once was people.
You know, thinking on it, I think it's not just that everyone went crazy in Yharnam. I think the truth is in the title, "Bloodborne", as in a bloodborne DISEASE. EVERYONE in Yharnam uses blood ministration to heal, to fix biological problems, to do everything it seems like. If the Scourge of the Blood DID come from overusage of the Old Blood as the game implies, in affect everyone in Yharnam is slowly contracting the Scourge as time goes on, and the more and more they use and rely on blood healing (or blood-anything) the more and more likely they are to eventually mutate into a Beast. Hunters, who naturally get injured and fight more then regular civilians, would use the infected blood more and more then everyone else. In addition to being naturally superior combatants, this would leave them more susceptible to more extreme mutations over time as they slowly lost their minds to the Scourge like we see the regular populace doing, as many show signs of mutation like hairer bodies, freakishly long limbs, etc.
+TheBType That's my head canon too. The "old blood" comes from alien presences, and human physiology can't withstand the mutations that the blood causes, even if it seems to heal every single physical problem. The problem comes into being that the blood slowly alters the mental state and physical state of the person who gets treated with it. Eventually, addiction (blood is more intoxicating than alcohol), combined with the heightened mental instability of "bloodlust" (it seems like the Old Blood heightens negative emotions/aggression) makes people go feral and turn into Beasts (perhaps the Old Ones were like beasts in our minds)... Plus Yharnam is messed up already, so people would start using the Old Blood more to push back the Beasts.
Old post but... My idea is that the Old Blood heightens capabilities of both mind and body, with a heightened mind, making your decisions come faster, and most of the time they lead to more blood. More blood leads to an even more heightened mind, and at some point you'll start hunting for the pure high of the blood. That's when the beast takes over. However, it is not poison. Not intentionally, either way... to my eyes it is a form of selection, we the hunters who ascended the dream, i.e. were not absorbed by the moon spirit, turned into an ancient one. Which all i find more symbolic than real. We know from the start it's a dream. Therefore beasts are people who are only interested in power for the pure high of it. The ancient ones are so alien in form because they are such in their thought. They aren't *there* per say, they only test you through their will, as such when we best them, we understood, and our character became alien to our view, basically our characters will transcended our understanding of it as a player. What's more not all Ancient Ones are equals, and debatably the Moon Presence is the stronger of them, for it can "revive" us after they dominated us, therefore what ever lies ahead is another stage to pass. Lastly, i firmly believe that the hunters dream is not the domain of the Moon Presence, but of the Dolls, for it is the thing that empowers and truly heightens our frail characters body, moreover the dream does not fade when the Moon Presence is defeated. While it leaves a lot of loopholes, i think the Doll is something even the ancient ones don't understand, an alien to an ancient, if you will...
Actually the Bloody crow of Cainhurst did NOT master the art of quickening... During the fight you can see that he uses an Old Hunter Bone in order to perform the quickening. Once its effects expire, he needs to use the item again, otherwise he will just dodge and jump around normally.
I make a pilgrimage back to this video every once in a while. Eileen is my favorite From character. Simple you might say, but as far as fiction goes, I grew to really care about her character. Bloodborne is a forever favorite..no matter how many times I may have died playing. Sleep well, mum.
It seemed to me that Eileen is the closest equivalent to Solaire in Dark Souls. She's the only npc you really "cooperate" with and cares for your well being
It's mentioned that we don't know if Eileen woke willingly. Just imagine if she didn't. Imagine a fight between her and Gehrman. Two old OG badasses going at it. That would be so damn awesome to see
I can't believe that I didn't connect waking from the dream (Yharnum Sunrise) with forgetting about the hunt, or at least having a spotty memory of it. Especially since Micolash himself specifically wails about how he'll forget everything once he's awoken.
When I completed Eileen's quest (second play-through), I was part of the Vile Bloods. She handed over her convenient rune, and I knew there was no use left for her (from both a gameplay and role playing perspective). I killed her for a blood dreg. Afterwards, I felt genuinely guilty. I don't think I've ever felt that guilty about doing something in a game before.
Michael, I have a new level of respect for you. Just to get all the footage yo needed for this video you must have had to make 2-3 maybe even 4 playthoughs to get equipment, dialogue, cutscenes, etc. For a 9 minute video. Hours of gameplay.....for a 9 minute lore masterpiece. I loved your work before but i came to this realization recently. "A workman is worthy of his hire" I won't reference the quote but you have gained another patron. (when I have the time)
I think... "the waking world" is a dream, too, on some level. It feels like stepping into the past. More and more levels of dream and nightmare... The Hunter's Dream, the city of Yarnham, Mensis, the Schoolhouse, the Nightmare Frontier, the DLC... layers upon layers upon layers. And yet Eileen knows of the doll... it's very mysterious.
I really want to see yharnam during the day. Maybe it's best left to the imagination, but the beautiful, bright, colorful sunrise at the mercy killing ending looks really nice. Also, there's areas in the game were if you look out at the horizon you can see mountain ranges and stuff and it looks really nice. I kinda wonder if there's another civilization out there.
Thank you for doing this, Vaati. It's as Eileen says, this too is part of a Hunter's duty, but only if they have the resolve. I'm proud to have taken up the mantle of a Hunter of Hunters(or the Murder of the Crowfeather, as I like to call them) in Eileen's stead.
How did Eileen remember the hunt after getting freed from the dream? Gehrman tells you: "You'll die, forget the dream and awake under the morning sun..." ?
dark paladin dylan No, she remembers the dream. If you end up fighting her, one of her dialogue clips when she kills you says, "You still have dreams? Say hello to the doll for me."
Does anyone else realize the old Hunter bone, the one you find in the old workshop, is actually Gerhman's bone? Think about it. I first noticed during my fight with the first Hunter. When he hits his third phase he gains the art of quickening. Also gerhman is trapped in the dream. Why? He has no outside body to return to. And the Hunter bone is found on a grave in the workshop, I think from what I know of the lore that Gerhman is actually dead and we use his bones to gain some of his abilities Just a neat little fact.
While I like this theory you have to remember, there were a lot of hunters, and the one in the workshop could very well be Germans I highly doubt that all the bones are scattered bones of his, and it is a good theory
This is my favorite souls-bourne storyline, and I don’t understand how the bloody crow of cainhurst isn’t itself a full on optional boss fight. The difficulty matched Maria for me, while being a straight up hunter fight without having massive AOE attacks or anything that’s typical of a boss fight.
Damn, that fight with the bloody crow of cainhurst looked really badass. So fast paced and all those dashes by both the player and the crow. I haven't played Bloodborne cos I don't want to buy a console but that fight made me really want to play it.
+Solum He's a fucking pain in the ass. When you're around his level, his gun will 2-shot you. I had to farm until I was twice his level, and was still forced to cheese him by exploiting a glitch in his AI and the fact that his weapon actually drains his HP when in 2 handed mode.
Easily my favourite hoonter. I wish more of the characters in the game got as much development as her. And well, even then Eileen could have used some more screen time. That's really my only complaint about this game. Too few characters, each with far too little development.
A hoonter must hoont, Jon Snow Excellent video as always Vaati. Your cinematic presentation is inspiring. I attempted to do a video on Amygdala as a part of my own series (first Souls-Borne thing I've covered); I know you're incredibly busy and I by no means expect you to read this, but if you happen to have the time, any constructive criticism you could offer me would be very valuable. If not, no worries, your content is more than I could ever ask for :)
Bought the game, played an hour or so before setting it aside. Now I found your content and am entranced by the lore, story and fleshing out of the game. Amazing content, narration and substance, truly.
Here's what I don't understand. Eileen was once a hunter, and then German killed her in the dream and now she's in the waking world, right? Okay...but when German kills you in the dream and you wake up in the waking world, you shouldn't remember anything, right? Isn't that what German said? So why does she remember being a hunter?
It's not that they don't remember it at all. They remember it like you'd remember a real dream. You can remember it for a while, but eventually you forget. She, it seems, still hasn't forgotten.
Alan Jay he is the first hunter and as such has been in the dream for a while. He likely has no idea if the hunters remember the dream or not and just assumes possibly hopes they do as he views the place as his prison and doesn't want the hunters to be burdened by that. But the hunters do remember look at Djura he tells you he no longer dreams which means he knows of the dream.
You know, I've said, "Fuck this game," so many times, it's unbelievable. And the two things about this game that always sucks me back is the Lovecraftian inspiration, and the aspect of the Hunter's Dream. Also, just recently started getting somewhat good at the game, and have just started watching your videos today. Thank you for making these for us. 🤘
Ha... Haha? Funny? I don't know because no one has replied before me, indicating which side i should take! Oh woe is me! Whatever shall I do? I can't think for myself!?
***** Crow masks basically were the masks that Doctor's wore during the Middle Ages I believe, worn to prevent a spread of disease with their patients maybe? As does Eileen in a way, lining the mask with incense to prevent beasthood spreading to her. I might have been way off though...
If i remember correctly, they would stuff herbs (something like that) in the snout or beak, whatever you call it. I don't know the reason for it though
Aah, Eileen... I leave the hooting of hoonters to you. VaatiVidya, you're very a talented storyteller ! "Prepare to Cry " videos are my favorities in your channel, continue like this !
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"You still have dreams?, say hello to the doll for me"
To the little doll*
=)
@@hypesthevasukilad1199 "little"
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Bullshit that thing is as tall as father gascoigne or at least 8ft
@@gbgtheweeb5227 like peppa pig size lol
@@aaronvanzomeren8775 Peppa is like 12 foot
What are you still doing here? Enough trambeling in your boots. A hoonter most hoont.
"Try to keep your Hands clean,Leave the hunting of hunters to me" :)
"hoonters should hoont beasts"
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I don't know if anybody else pointed this out so far, but I just recently realised something. Remember where and how you find Eileen next to the huge storage building watching into the distance. You know about the 2 corpses dangling around there? Those are the only 2 corpses in the entire game you have to cut free for loot, also take into consideration what they drop and look like. Both wear hunter attire and one of them has even a hunters weapon on himself. The way they're hung up is also very elaborate and sophesticated compared to every other hanging corpse in the game where they're just roped like a Piece of meat, sometimes even upside down. My take on that is, that those two hunters where Eileens Prey and that she did the "sky burial" ritual with them, another hint on what Eileen is and what she does.
That sounds pre epic to me
If you attack her ( for some god awful reason ) she will say " I'll string you up like the filthy beast you are. "
@@laziwastaken Though notice how the beasts are strung " Up like the filthy beasts " they are, through out all of Central Yharnam. It does make sense Eileen would have hung those bodies up but as you attack her her words reflect the beasthood she senses growing in you.
@@bevanmcnicholl2525 ah... I see. Good catch, btw
Maybe a sky burial drains you of all your blood so you can't heal/ gain beast mode in the final moments of death? And if hunters turn into the worst beasts then the extra effort and precautions are warranted?
let us all raise a glass to Eileen the Crow, as she was literally the only sane person we got to speak to in the whole game. ~
Haruko Hoshiko hmm djura wanna speak with you
renation89 lol the guy who shoots a machine gun at you for entering an area, yep seems sane. ~
Haruko Hoshiko if you beat Paarl, and you enter Old Yarnham through that gate then you will see the reason why he shoots you
yes, but before that he shoots at you just for being in the area, that is not something a sane person does, he's all like "I just want to protect those people and keep you from killing them" but he shoots at you even if you don't kill any of them. ~
Haruko Hoshiko The doll is pretty sane.
Although I guess she ain't really a person but...
Is this actually a From software story that has a somewhat happy ending? I mean I realize she dies, but she gets to complete her life's work and die content. That's more than most of their characters get.
you could say that Alfred's story gets a "happy", altough distorted ending. He has finished his life's task by grinding Annalise into non-existance, and by doing so, honors his master
But you can easily revive Annalise after he kills her. So, everything he did was useless..
Ресторан "Союз" Alfred dies blissfully without knowing that though
Alfred kills himself after killing her
Ludwig, if you decide to lie to him.
Eileen is a bad ass character, but that god-damn hunter in the Cathedral. Holy cow, that was hard!
Christian Wong Yeah filming that with the HUD off was a nightmare
Missed opportunity to say holy crow
Honestly I hate the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst even more than the Orphan of Kos or Laurence's bossfight. Fuck that guys constant visceral attacks
You can actually cheese that fight with the Augur of Ebrietas. His ai will generally run straight at you, so if you just wait until he’s close and then use the augur, you can strike through his guard and attacks and knock him down. The damage dealt is fair if you’ve sunk some levels into arcane. This strategy also works on all the other npc hunters you encounter in the game world.
seek the paleblood to transcend the hoont
Seek the crystal mountain because death is fucking awesome.
Hear that? It is the sound of perseverance.
Lake Beauchamp that is.... if you can get through the cosmic sea ;)
michaelgtho ohoho.. easy now.
michaelgtho You'd almost think that you're the philosopher.
I would love to see an animated movie set in the glory days of eileen and gherman when they were friends resisting the first onslaught of the beasts
That would be awesome.
There is a web comic that does follow Eileen.I havent read it but the people who work on it are called Lordran and Beyond l think. Hope this helps
Eileen and gehrman didn’t exist in the same era
Please no, looking at how modern big corpo studios adapt games and books, it's best to keep this as far away as humanly possible from big corporations
Gehrman should be far older than Eileen. Considering how many gravestones are in the hunter’s dream, Gehrman has to have lived far longer than any regular human can. And while Eileen is old, it makes more sense for her to have been a hunter of the dream only to have died in the dream(like the death ending) so that she could become a hunter of hunters, and her name was left on one of the hundreds of headstones in the dream.
Eileen is thus far still my favorite character ever made in any "souls" game, mainly because of the end of her quest line, but you left out one thing Vaati, the fact she's gone when you return.. Of all the characters you fight, she's the only main NPC Character that vanishes from the world, when you return to the tombs and the yellow cloaked hunter spawns, a pile of clothing is behind where he spawns, that clothing is Father Gascoigne, Upon killing the yellow hunter, his body lays next to Father's clothing. Should you kill Djura his body rests next to the Gatling gun... Her's is despawned, it vanishes never to be seen again, so even after everything after passing the torch... she's alive, and if not, let's say she did die, perhaps she infact returned to the sky.
She probably just retired, considering the fact that she gives you her badge and the rune of her covenant, and the fact that some item descriptions mention that there is always only one Hunter of Hunters
I think that she may have died, but was at peace finally. I think it's mentioned somewhere that Eileen is the last of the Crow Hunters, and with this particular hunt turning nearly every hunter you meet blood-addled, she cannot leave her duty to dispose of them. Since the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst wore the crowfeather garb, he was probably a comrade of Eileen's. Before you came along she thought there was no more hope of her possibly succeeding against the blood-addled hunters; she was aged and tired, her only surviving comrade had become a Vileblood, and as she said to us she can not return to the Hunter's Dream. But knowing her duty was passed to us, she was able to die at peace, which I don't think any other character does.
SuperDuperRyle well, you could let djura and his partner live to protect old yharnam i guess :/
@@DavidVillaTorre Djura was already too far gone. He genuinely believed the beasts of Old Yharnam were still humans deep down. His hope slowly drove him to insanity, so killing him would be granting him mercy before he himself turns into a beast.
I founs her in the main cathedral tho and im curious so i got close and it was her trying to kill me so i killed her
I like how Elieen still has enough energy to sass you after you kill the Crow of Cainhurst even though she's bruised and broken.
My personal theory is that hunters who become connected to the dream:
1) can't die
2) cannot become beast (in form, that is. They can still become beasts in mind)
Therefore, this is what happens: a hunter becomes "blood-addled", Gehrman cuts them out of the dream to make them mortal, A Hoonter of Hoonters disposes of them
ExistentialOcto no, because a hunter of hunters has no contact within the dream. Even if they once did.
Also not all hunters go to the dream, just a few do. D'jura, Eileen, and the player character, being good examples.
What a blood-addled hunter is, is a hunter about to turn into a beast, a famous example, Gascoigne. I.E someone who is so drunk with blood, that they are turning into the monsters that they once hunted.
But not all hunters who are killed by the hunter of hunters are blood-addled, sometimes they are killed because they no longer follow the oath of a hunter, popular example, D'jura.
Another example that when hunters become TOO blood Addled they are sent to the hunters nightmare which is an endless hunt where they can cause no harm to people when the hunt is over
@Drew Clark true, but not permanently, unlike everyone else
@@thesilentgamer2267 It seems to be that hunters end up here when they finally die, only to have their lust for blood manifest as actual "blood-addled-ness" (or whatever you want to call it). I didn't ever get the idea that hunters were sent there on purpose in the way that they're sent to the dream.
It's an eternally recurring hell, not a "safe zone" where they can't harm people, I don't think.
I swear this is the best game that I have played in my life
I dont wanna say it because I have played some great games but I'm thinking the same thing and to think a month ago I bought and returned this game a day later because I thought it was stupidly frustrating. Thank God I came back to my senses and bought it right back, looked up guides and slowly but surely made my way to the end and now, I just beat Vicar Amelia in NG+ on my first try. Hell, every boss I've fought so far in NG+ aside from Blood Starved Beast, I've beaten in my first try, I've officially gotten good.
+Matt Josh bro
you made a big mistake but you fix it by buying the game back 😂
no words can describe this game ❤
Same I had this game then for some reason out of the blue I was craving it. Then I was finally able to make it past the first mob then to father Gascoigne.. as soon as I beat him I was hooked.
same
I completely agree! I have been grinding it lately.
Hoonter X Hoonter
Lmfao this is brilliant
Cool beans
@Zyngurj Pyrezbaf congrats at replying to a 4 year old comment.
@Zyngurj Pyrezbaf You must be upset. Forget to clean the Cheeto dust from that beard on your neck again?
@Zyngurj Pyrezbaf nice avatar you have yourself.
Fuckin weeb
2:17 "When a hunter gave in to bloodlust, Eileen would *swoop* in, and kill him/her, before they could do any more damage."
*Swooping is bad...*
RuSosan she'll turn us all into toads
RuSosan oh boy dragon age memes
*****
*ENCHANTMENT!*
+Yotunfrau WHO ARE YOU? WHO IN FACE ARE YOU?
Swooper, no swooping?
ONE THING WRONG WITH THIS; he hasn't mastered the art of quickening, he's merely mimicking it by borrowing the arcane power of an Old Hunter's Bone. The only people who have innate quickening are Maria, Gehrman, and the old hunters in the Hunter's Nightmare.
Otherwise great work!
Guy Lloyd exactly so maybe he killed an old hunter?
Oh wow yes you are right. He probably passed by Hunters nightmare
Do we see him use / pop the bone's power? Or is it always on?
If it's always on, I'd say he's pretty well mastered it. If not (i.e. if we can see him use it), then no. It's been a while since I fought him, though, so I don't recall!
@@ashengrail We see him use it. You can see him use it in the video.
Hoonters gonna hoont.
Haters gonna hate.
Hooters gonna hoot.
That was an owl joke. An unprovoked owl joke.
Lake Beauchamp you know who else is a good hooter?
HOO.DINI
wrgg
What a waste to not end the video with "Tell the little doll i said hello..." Vaati
Giru Thought about it, seemed a little tacked on in the end. You could be right though
VaatiVidya I just can't believe you didn't mention the obvious ship. *Dolleen refuses to be ignored!*
Finnbar Grieve we're shipping bloodborne characters now...is nothing sacred?
110 Montauk nope
@@wolfbrother111 The shippers are beasts of an altogether unholy sort.
I love Eileen's voice actor, she's amazing and add's a whole extra layer to the character
I refuse to believe Eileen died
Mikey Fine Same here, friend. My belief is that she recovered enough because of that blood she took, and then got away to safety, where she planned to live out the rest of her days in peace, away from the Hunt and her duties to end the madness of other Hunters.
Mikey Fine she didn't die. She just re-spawned at The Nexus.
Mikey Fine "as she finds her eyes become heavier, she closes her eyes thinking she is going to sleep. yet, those eyes will never open searching for the rayof sun"
sorry. just wanna make it a bit dramatic
AstralMuffin105 It's bloodborne, no happy endings in bloodborne.. ever..
NinjaAge
I know, but it's my headcannon that she lived and I'm sticking to it.
I hope my character, who became a Great One at the end, is the final boss in the next Bloodborne
I hope that the Doll is the one before that. I can just see her now, transformed into a Sasori-like murder puppet with a million tricks and weapons hidden eveywhere.
You take up the mantle of Rom and discard your humanity to gain power to actually shift the situation and take control out of the other Old Ones's hands in that ending. If you go up against that, that puts you on the side of the bad guys - welp, against humanity, at least -, I think. I mean, would you do it with the knowledge that you're quite possibly recreating the Gascoigne family tragedy on a mass scale with your victory?
Peter E mine's a great one too
Peter E
Man, I see people complaining about how Dark Souls 3 is the new Bloodborne 2 and now here you are trying to make Bloodborne 2 the new Dark Souls 3.
pokemon gold/silver had you facing off against Red from the first game, and it was awesome.
Who hunts a hunter of hunters gone rogue?
NorthernRedStar a hunter of hunter of hunters. You don't wanna know what happens if the hunter of hunter of hunters goes rogue..
VaatiVidya :D
VaatiVidya God have mercy on that hunter of hunter of hunter of hunters...
A prior hoonter of hoonters that is chased by hoonters after hoonting too many hoonters
The Steel Arc One does not simply escape the cycle.
2:51
The curved gap in Gehrman's burial blade is a perfect fit for a neck, huh?
Logan Gassmann Looked like a giant bottle opener to me
Lol
100% yes. Makes you wonder why it was designed that way originally, doesn't it...
The hook attack, man... that shit was hellish
I know Miyazaki used a lot of Bloodborne's inspiration from Berserk... But wouldn't it be badass for Bloodborne to get its own anime adaptation?
jj malilong
Now that you mention it, Sony does own a controlling interest in Madhouse....
TheNinjaDC OHBOY madhouse eh? we'd probably get 12 episodes up of adventuresup until the cleric beast and then a "tune-in next season" even though it actually just ended
TheNinjaDC Ah, a studio familiar with putting blood on everything. Stellar.
jj malilong no it would suck.... fucking weeaboos. It would sucks the same way as movies made from games, or animes that turn into games
jj malilong No. No it wouldn't.
I love these videos. They add so much to the lore of the games, making great games even better. Well edited and narrated too.
Markolius Funk Glad it could help your enjoyment, thank you
He aint adding anything. He Inspires you to look closer and behind, IT is already there
wr
@@VaatiVidya What is the lore behind the tree women in painted world of Ariandel ?
Is Gertrude The angel in the poison swamp of the dreg heep ?
Why Patches killed Greirat in The Grand Archives ?
Why does Sirris of the sunless realms want to kill The Abyss Watchers ? and why she hates fingers of Rosarai ?
"when you wake it's difficult to remember what you dreamed about." holy sh*t that line plus the background music gave me f*cking chills brava vaati brava one of your best lines in one of your best videos
The soul's community (And bloodborne included) is so tame and epic compared to other gaming communities.
Lucky Ocelot LOL actually I had some good experience in PVP for the most part, my very first PVP in bloodborne when I got to the nightmare frontier an invader stood back and let me deal with the regular enemies and even let me heal first. I NEVER had a moment like that in any other game.
Lucky Ocelot 2015 and still complaining about honor. Really?
Lucky Ocelot Hell of a lot better than COD, Halo, CS:GO, Battlefield communities.
Lucky Ocelot I thought we all got to the conclusion that everyone should just play however the fuck he wants even if he wants to play according to his honor code or is gank in the forest like years ago.
RisingBob they need to learn about "survival of the fittest." in pvp.
:p
0:27 I love how "blurred" sounds very similar to blood because of his accent.
Unintentional pun at it's finest.
that's a chick not a dude
White Knight Of the Internet I'm talking about the narrator. Not Eileen.
Mordor's Morlord Why not say Vaati lol, this comment section is full of "hoonting of hoonters"
White Knight Of the Internet There was no Eileen quote close to the 0:27 mark. I really don't understand how you got confused by that.
Mordor's Morlord because timestamps don't work with Google+. It just reloads the page and I'm not going to reload the page for "blurred", it's easier to assume and say whoops.
You know what I've been thinking? Hunters go mad from the blood lust after killing many beasts during the Hunt. The blood sings to them. You could say it *echoes*. The Hunters who have gone mad usually pose a big danger on your journey. Sometimes it seems just so unfair, you are vastly outmatched; they seem to be *levels* above you. Some of them possesses outrageous *Vitality* (Crow of Cainhurst, I’m looking at you, you asshat). What if Eileen was so weak compared to her targets was because she refused to slay the beasts unless she had to. She refused to let the blood echo within her. And what are you doing for hours on end? Slaying the same beasts over and over to get their blood echoes to level up. Perhaps you have fallen to the blood as well....
Just something I thought of while grinding for echoes. Don’t take it seriously. ;)
I'm so fucking upset that my Eileen died. I went to watch her kill Henryk and didn't help and she died! I didn't know she could die! I legit almost cried.
Hel Heim The best way to do it is to warp in from the Cathedral Ward lantern and backtrack to where he is. Drop in from behind him "Where you find the red brooch". Backstab then visceral attack him. After that just throw in 2 or 3 attacks to bring him down to just a few points of health. You can do all of that before Eileen shows up. Then just back off and let her finish him.
pr0xy Thanks. I wish I would have known that. It's too late now, I don't wanna restart and I'm a lot further now. I didn't know she could die and I didn't know I could even see the fight. She told me to stay away, and after running around a bit I figured eh what the hell and went to go watch. I stood there for like a minute just watching and then she died. I was so shocked and sad that I let that happen. I thought she had it. It sucked big time.
Hel Heim I hear ya. Well there's always next time if you decide to play again in New Game+
I actually ended up killing her my first play through. You can damage her while you two are fighting Henryk. She went down before he did. lol
pr0xy Damn that sucks. Yeah I'll definitely save her on my next play through. Thanks for the heads up.
I never even returned to oedon tomb so she went mad. I was so sad.
I liked Eileen a lot, she was one of the few characters that wants to help you and she had a heavy burden to carry. The way she wants you to keep your hands clean while she deals with the hunters who couldn't stand the beast.
I always thought she was the only hunter of hunters and that she pass on that duty to you, if you want to do it. Like the covenant master if this was more like dark souls.
When I screwed up on my second play-through and had to kill Eileen, I was heartbroken. She's my favourite character and my fight with her is still one of my favourite fights in the entire game, despite how much I hate myself for having to kill her. The fight went for nearly 30 straight minutes because we couldn't hit one another, and as we both had the crow-feather garb, it quickly became a flurry of feathers and I kept losing track of who was who between all the dodging and swiping. Absolutely badass fight.
Awesome video btw :D
5:32
Eileen: “turn back, this is my score to settle…”
Hunter: *charges sword*
So smooth
What is the real purpose of the hunt? When men are killing beasts, their bloodlust turn them into those very monsters. The hunt create more things to hunt. So, why is there a hunt?
Marcos Lima That's pretty much why. They can't stop it so the only thing they can do is keep fighting and killing beasts till the end to keep yharnam civil.
It's almost like a never-ending cycle.
*HMMM*
Noah Morgan Exactly dx
What else are they to do? Open their doors and invite death inside? Sure, their death is inevidable, but still.
Cause the blood moon wants the hunt. That's why there is a hunt . The Doll says she had been there for centuries , watching countless hunters . But Gehrman has not been imprisoned for that long , only 2-3 generation of hunters have passed. This same thing has occurred before in history . The paleblood sky and the moon presence hunting other infant great ones . This was just another repeat of that . That's why I think the ascension ending is the best .
My headcanon is that Eileen is alive and went to Gascoigne's home to become the adoptive parent of the two little girls, with us, the player, never telling them about what happened to their parents. She is retired, realizing that her age has finally caught up to her, and decides to spend her life as the parent of the two girls who unfortunately lost their mother, father, and grandfather to that long, cruel night. And honestly, I don't think it would be out of her bound for her to do this, considering how kind she is, and the fact the children are Henryck's granddaughter, who must have been a close friend to Eileen, considering their age.
Good lore mate :)
Robin Hellinghausen I am everywhere XD
thenthapple I couldn't help but read that in your voice haha
Hey I'm subbed to you great fallout lore
cpfan123456789 thank you :)
I'm pretty sure shoddy cast is a bit better
I fokin heit honters
What about Pikeys???
james vanitas oi fokin h8 pikies
Ali Amarneh Can't understand them?
james vanitas ya
It "Hoonter" not "honter" Honter sounds like "Han ter. Fukin scrub
She is my favorite character in Bloodborne. Glad you did a video on her
Eileen’s my all time favorite Souls character for many reasons. Sad there was nothing you could do to save her..
you can save her from her demise if you keep your distance away from her.
I was surprised playing Bloodborne for the second time. I was convinced I would be killing mostly beasts as I remembered it, but through the game I realized how very few real beasts are there, if any at all, and noticed I mostly slayed what once was people.
Djura convinced you, I suppose.
You know, thinking on it, I think it's not just that everyone went crazy in Yharnam.
I think the truth is in the title, "Bloodborne", as in a bloodborne DISEASE.
EVERYONE in Yharnam uses blood ministration to heal, to fix biological problems, to do everything it seems like. If the Scourge of the Blood DID come from overusage of the Old Blood as the game implies, in affect everyone in Yharnam is slowly contracting the Scourge as time goes on, and the more and more they use and rely on blood healing (or blood-anything) the more and more likely they are to eventually mutate into a Beast.
Hunters, who naturally get injured and fight more then regular civilians, would use the infected blood more and more then everyone else. In addition to being naturally superior combatants, this would leave them more susceptible to more extreme mutations over time as they slowly lost their minds to the Scourge like we see the regular populace doing, as many show signs of mutation like hairer bodies, freakishly long limbs, etc.
+TheBType That's my head canon too. The "old blood" comes from alien presences, and human physiology can't withstand the mutations that the blood causes, even if it seems to heal every single physical problem. The problem comes into being that the blood slowly alters the mental state and physical state of the person who gets treated with it. Eventually, addiction (blood is more intoxicating than alcohol), combined with the heightened mental instability of "bloodlust" (it seems like the Old Blood heightens negative emotions/aggression) makes people go feral and turn into Beasts (perhaps the Old Ones were like beasts in our minds)... Plus Yharnam is messed up already, so people would start using the Old Blood more to push back the Beasts.
Sooo... The Scourge is actually a mass Old One poisoning?
Old post but... My idea is that the Old Blood heightens capabilities of both mind and body, with a heightened mind, making your decisions come faster, and most of the time they lead to more blood. More blood leads to an even more heightened mind, and at some point you'll start hunting for the pure high of the blood. That's when the beast takes over. However, it is not poison. Not intentionally, either way... to my eyes it is a form of selection, we the hunters who ascended the dream, i.e. were not absorbed by the moon spirit, turned into an ancient one. Which all i find more symbolic than real. We know from the start it's a dream. Therefore beasts are people who are only interested in power for the pure high of it. The ancient ones are so alien in form because they are such in their thought. They aren't *there* per say, they only test you through their will, as such when we best them, we understood, and our character became alien to our view, basically our characters will transcended our understanding of it as a player. What's more not all Ancient Ones are equals, and debatably the Moon Presence is the stronger of them, for it can "revive" us after they dominated us, therefore what ever lies ahead is another stage to pass. Lastly, i firmly believe that the hunters dream is not the domain of the Moon Presence, but of the Dolls, for it is the thing that empowers and truly heightens our frail characters body, moreover the dream does not fade when the Moon Presence is defeated. While it leaves a lot of loopholes, i think the Doll is something even the ancient ones don't understand, an alien to an ancient, if you will...
TheKueiJin
I really like that. That sounds interesting.
TheKueiJin I heard doll is handwork of Gehrman.
Actually the Bloody crow of Cainhurst did NOT master the art of quickening... During the fight you can see that he uses an Old Hunter Bone in order to perform the quickening. Once its effects expire, he needs to use the item again, otherwise he will just dodge and jump around normally.
*A truly beautiful story, and unfortunately, a quite depressing one...*
+shadow heart par for the course then :)
+shadow heart 99% of all Bloodborne's stories.
shadow heart what would a hoonter hoont if that hoonter went mad with the hoont
I would kill for one about Lady Maria. I'm absolutely in love with her character.
I make a pilgrimage back to this video every once in a while. Eileen is my favorite From character. Simple you might say, but as far as fiction goes, I grew to really care about her character. Bloodborne is a forever favorite..no matter how many times I may have died playing. Sleep well, mum.
It seemed to me that Eileen is the closest equivalent to Solaire in Dark Souls. She's the only npc you really "cooperate" with and cares for your well being
It's mentioned that we don't know if Eileen woke willingly. Just imagine if she didn't. Imagine a fight between her and Gehrman. Two old OG badasses going at it. That would be so damn awesome to see
The line between man and beast is blurred.
Say it faster.
The line between man and beast is blood.
Love the editting is this video
Da Falcon :D
Ikr, its great. Good job.
Seriously, it's awesome.
Listening to Eileen saying "hoonter" never gets old :)
I can't believe that I didn't connect waking from the dream (Yharnum Sunrise) with forgetting about the hunt, or at least having a spotty memory of it. Especially since Micolash himself specifically wails about how he'll forget everything once he's awoken.
When I completed Eileen's quest (second play-through), I was part of the Vile Bloods. She handed over her convenient rune, and I knew there was no use left for her (from both a gameplay and role playing perspective). I killed her for a blood dreg. Afterwards, I felt genuinely guilty. I don't think I've ever felt that guilty about doing something in a game before.
Michael, I have a new level of respect for you. Just to get all the footage yo needed for this video you must have had to make 2-3 maybe even 4 playthoughs to get equipment, dialogue, cutscenes, etc. For a 9 minute video. Hours of gameplay.....for a 9 minute lore masterpiece. I loved your work before but i came to this realization recently.
"A workman is worthy of his hire" I won't reference the quote but you have gained another patron. (when I have the time)
i saw a lot of lore videos ,but non i like more than yours .
awesome work man
5:37 that was so badass you where just like "no, *blade transforms* tis mine"
I think... "the waking world" is a dream, too, on some level. It feels like stepping into the past. More and more levels of dream and nightmare... The Hunter's Dream, the city of Yarnham, Mensis, the Schoolhouse, the Nightmare Frontier, the DLC... layers upon layers upon layers. And yet Eileen knows of the doll... it's very mysterious.
More like the Bloody Crow of CainHURTS.
I prefer Painhurst
Pretty sure it's the Bloody Crow of Cunthurst...
I never knew bloodborne had a katana until seeing this video....
*sigh*....new game plus it is then
*****
And fucking proud
(don't know what a weeaboo is)
Casul
Rest well Eileen, Know that your work will not be left undone.
“You still have dreams? Tell the little doll I said hello”
Your voice is so quiet and it makes it all so much sadder and creepier
Good job mate
Next waifu...err i mean next Story for the manequin please :)
420PraiseIt I second that. Manequin waifu pls.
I will third that doll is best waifu
everyone in the know knows that Fake Iosefka is in fact best waifu
xaero xiii I concur
420PraiseIt lol your waifu is an old lady.
3 yrs later still no Maria prepare to cry
Ya kno nothing Jun Snoo
ShakenMike Hola
Definitely sounds like the same dialect of English as that freckled wildling, doesnt it?
9:00 "removed because you came too close to the truth". That's some nier automata type shit
6 years later and I’m still in love with your videos😂
can we get one about the Doll?
How many hunters could a hunter of hunters hunt if a hunter of hunters could hunt hunters?
“A hoonter should hoont beasts , leave the hoonting of hoonters to me.”
Eileen the crow~
I really want to see yharnam during the day. Maybe it's best left to the imagination, but the beautiful, bright, colorful sunrise at the mercy killing ending looks really nice. Also, there's areas in the game were if you look out at the horizon you can see mountain ranges and stuff and it looks really nice. I kinda wonder if there's another civilization out there.
Thank you for doing this, Vaati. It's as Eileen says, this too is part of a Hunter's duty, but only if they have the resolve. I'm proud to have taken up the mantle of a Hunter of Hunters(or the Murder of the Crowfeather, as I like to call them) in Eileen's stead.
Amazing video! I would also love it if you made a Cainhurst lore video , it's most likely my favorite place!
PandaMofo yeah i'm so keen, love the whole atmosphere of cainhurst
VaatiVidya If you can somehow work PandaMofo's profile pic into the Cainhurst video, that'd be swell.
How did Eileen remember the hunt after getting freed from the dream? Gehrman tells you: "You'll die, forget the dream and awake under the morning sun..." ?
Great question VaatiVidya
Same goes for Djura
Lionel Ramos i think its from what she did before she entered the dream as she was still a hunter of hunters
dark paladin dylan No, she remembers the dream. If you end up fighting her, one of her dialogue clips when she kills you says, "You still have dreams? Say hello to the doll for me."
I believe forgetting the dream means that you won't be able to go to the dream Anymore, not like erasing iT from your memory
Does anyone else realize the old Hunter bone, the one you find in the old workshop, is actually Gerhman's bone? Think about it.
I first noticed during my fight with the first Hunter. When he hits his third phase he gains the art of quickening. Also gerhman is trapped in the dream. Why? He has no outside body to return to. And the Hunter bone is found on a grave in the workshop, I think from what I know of the lore that Gerhman is actually dead and we use his bones to gain some of his abilities
Just a neat little fact.
While I like this theory you have to remember, there were a lot of hunters, and the one in the workshop could very well be Germans I highly doubt that all the bones are scattered bones of his, and it is a good theory
Oh I am sorry I read the first sentence wrong yes it very well could be ghermans bone
Well he became a host of the dream, like Malicosh or whatever the cage head guy's name is, and we saw his body...
I thought so too what with the doll occasionally praying in front of that grave.
***** "It is said" Doesn't mean it's true. It's not inconceivable that some facts were misconstrued over time.
Vaati- “Without your help, she will perish in any assassination she attempts.”
Eileen “That wasn’t necessary of yeh.”
This is my favorite souls-bourne storyline, and I don’t understand how the bloody crow of cainhurst isn’t itself a full on optional boss fight. The difficulty matched Maria for me, while being a straight up hunter fight without having massive AOE attacks or anything that’s typical of a boss fight.
Awesome video! I almost had heart attack when I saw it in my sub box
Exactly the same for me haha.
Rest in Peace Eileen, hoonter of hoonters
Lol, i found and watched this video after killed Aileen to get the hunter crow badge early and now i'm sad 😭
Why are all of your videos so perfect? Your narration is so hauntingly melodic.
Damn, that fight with the bloody crow of cainhurst looked really badass. So fast paced and all those dashes by both the player and the crow.
I haven't played Bloodborne cos I don't want to buy a console but that fight made me really want to play it.
+Solum He's a fucking pain in the ass.
When you're around his level, his gun will 2-shot you.
I had to farm until I was twice his level, and was still forced to cheese him by exploiting a glitch in his AI and the fact that his weapon actually drains his HP when in 2 handed mode.
Easily my favourite hoonter. I wish more of the characters in the game got as much development as her. And well, even then Eileen could have used some more screen time.
That's really my only complaint about this game. Too few characters, each with far too little development.
a hoonta should hoont beasts.. leave the hoonting of hoontas to me
A hoonter must hoont, Jon Snow
Excellent video as always Vaati. Your cinematic presentation is inspiring.
I attempted to do a video on Amygdala as a part of my own series (first Souls-Borne thing I've covered); I know you're incredibly busy and I by no means expect you to read this, but if you happen to have the time, any constructive criticism you could offer me would be very valuable. If not, no worries, your content is more than I could ever ask for :)
Bought the game, played an hour or so before setting it aside. Now I found your content and am entranced by the lore, story and fleshing out of the game. Amazing content, narration and substance, truly.
That ending gave me goosebumps.
Well done, VaatiVidya, you do such a great job at telling these stories.
I enjoy ur stories more than the game
Vaati, are you working on prepare to cry's (cries?) for the dlc, like Maria, the Orphan, Kos, and the hamlet and other areas?
TheJstriker101 1 year later.....
Hoonters must hoont...
Wow man just watched two of ur videos and I’m just speechless got me going through bloodborne again watching while I play
That ending gave me shivers. Amazing work! I'm in love with your videos, they really make the games alot more enjoyable.
Bed time stories. 😴 thank you
This is Kachun. Been so busy in Hong Kong I still haven't had the chance to reply to you yet. Anyway, keep up the God work!
KC Wong Hey Kachun, work hard! Will keep it up :)
Here's what I don't understand. Eileen was once a hunter, and then German killed her in the dream and now she's in the waking world, right? Okay...but when German kills you in the dream and you wake up in the waking world, you shouldn't remember anything, right? Isn't that what German said? So why does she remember being a hunter?
It's not that they don't remember it at all. They remember it like you'd remember a real dream. You can remember it for a while, but eventually you forget. She, it seems, still hasn't forgotten.
***** ..but at the end when Gehrman kills you, he tells you that you're about to wake up, and when you do, you would forget about the dream.
Alan Jay he is the first hunter and as such has been in the dream for a while. He likely has no idea if the hunters remember the dream or not and just assumes possibly hopes they do as he views the place as his prison and doesn't want the hunters to be burdened by that. But the hunters do remember look at Djura he tells you he no longer dreams which means he knows of the dream.
I think forgetting the hunter's dream just means losing your connection to it. At least that's how I take it.
I came here just to comment this exact same thing lol
Another job well done, I still love how you end all your videos with a pondering question or statement. Keep up the amazing work
You know, I've said, "Fuck this game," so many times, it's unbelievable. And the two things about this game that always sucks me back is the Lovecraftian inspiration, and the aspect of the Hunter's Dream. Also, just recently started getting somewhat good at the game, and have just started watching your videos today. Thank you for making these for us. 🤘
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Ha... Haha? Funny? I don't know because no one has replied before me, indicating which side i should take! Oh woe is me! Whatever shall I do? I can't think for myself!?
These guys above me. These guys are funny. Take notes everyone, this is how you entertain.
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does the crow mask remind anyone else of the masks people wore during the plague?
***** I think that's the idea behind it
Plague Doctor. Surprised more has not been made of it, especially the cane.
***** That's because it's the same thing. They're rudimentary gas masks.
***** Crow masks basically were the masks that Doctor's wore during the Middle Ages I believe, worn to prevent a spread of disease with their patients maybe? As does Eileen in a way, lining the mask with incense to prevent beasthood spreading to her. I might have been way off though...
If i remember correctly, they would stuff herbs (something like that) in the snout or beak, whatever you call it. I don't know the reason for it though
She just started attacking me in Oedon Tomb. Is it because I didn't pick up her quests soon enough (before the blood moon?)
yes. You failed her questline, so she lost her sanity and attacks you. You can kill her and take her clothes/blade
No, You ended up hitting her too much while fighting henryk
This was fantastic. I always love your endings that give me (and others I'm sure) chills.
Aah, Eileen... I leave the hooting of hoonters to you.
VaatiVidya, you're very a talented storyteller !
"Prepare to Cry " videos are my favorities in your channel, continue like this !