How to play a from software game Step 1. Help someone in need Step 2. Do something good and pure hearted Step 3. Listen to how you've ruined everybodies life
***** all you can do is try.... if you do that does it really matter what happens in the end? thats the question you have to ask yourself... is it really your fault? or are you just trying your best and youre not the one to blame
Jakjer It was in a podcast, Miyasaki said that the only "good" ending in dark souls was that if you manage to make Solaire get into the firelink, so he could fullfil his dream.
I don't think Gascoigne killed Viola. Look at her, she's not exactly been mauled, if anything it looks like someone shot her, or stabbed her. Gascoigne uses a shotgun and swings an axe in wide arcs. Her corpse would show evidence of multiple bullets, or wide cuts if Gascoigne had killed her. No, Gascoigne didn't kill her. The Yharnamites did. Gascoigne finds her body, and those responsible. *This* pushes him over the edge. He goes berserk, slaughtering the Yharnamites, hacking them to pieces, giving in to his inner beast. We arrive, to find Gascoigne too far gone. The music box reminds him of who he was, and who he lost. However, it cannot break the grip of the beast because at the same time as it calls to the "real" Gascoigne, it reminds him of the woman he loved, and her senseless murder driving him back into a frenzied rage.
I'm pretty sure he killed her. She didn't have the music box, and the little girl specifically says they use it to make him *remember* them. I don't think he recognised her, with him being so drunk on the blood. He figured she was just another person ready to change at an instant, so he killed without even realising who she was.
Agentcoolguy1 I’d agree; but the music box “ignites a light” inside of him, and makes him remember who they were. It seems he has an internal struggle when you play it. Maybe that makes him realize what he’s done, and therefore more quickly pushes him to complete beasthood? It’s definitely either: The yharnamites killed her, or he did.
As much as I hate escort missions, I'd have happily protected the girl on her way to the chapel. Hell, I'd bring her sister along. Though honestly they are safer in their home, so yeah, just not interfering is really the best choice
Connor Schelby maybe but isn't it usually people that were blood ministered I don't think everyone in yarnham was so there could be a slight chance that they survived till morning
I just gave it a listen on some solid headphones and it sounds like that's what it could be if it's what' your trying to hear. To me, it sounds vague enough to be a coincidence rather than intentional from the developer. But who knows?
I always thought they were sisters until I got this dialogue I had missed so many times. The older girl pretends to cry until you walk away and hear “what a perfect ribbon. And now it’s mine. I can’t wait to try it on.” Now you could write it off as she’s just insane like most yharnamites are becoming but the fact she says “what a perfect ribbon” implies that she’s never been so close to the ribbon or held it herself. It makes sense. The first little girl NEVER mentions a sister and even lists off a bunch of people she loves. The second girl only arrives after you’ve sent the first to cathedral ward or the clinic. I think that the second girl lives in one of the 2 houses at the bottom of the ladder. The first little girl had to have went thru there. So the second girl sees her leave and makes her way to gascoignes house looking for the ribbon and when you get there she lies about being her sister so she won’t get in trouble. After giving her the ribbon she cleans the blood from it and tries to sneak back to her home but can’t avoid the troll coming down the ladder. This also makes sense because If you run past the troll you can go up the ladder before he can hit you but if you’re coming down the ladder he’s liable to hit you right as you come off. I think this theory falls in line with the whole theme of deception in this game from the NPCs like Iosefkas imposter and The suspicious beggar. Anyway we’ll NEVER know for sure. All according to Miyazaki’s plan.
The Huntsman Minion is her brother, he's just standing outside their door with a bow on it, for no reason, he also says "so cold... dear sister" when near her body and idle and he says "it's your fault" when attacking, which it is.
I suppose this is possible, I mean Miyazaki intentionally left a lot of things unanswered. However I always thought of the older girl's crazed sounding monologue about the ribbon as just a crazy way to try and deal with the trauma of her sister getting killed, however, after she came to her senses, she realizes that her entire family is dead, and she succumbs to grief and kills herself.
Lol true, but stories from dark fantasies almost always have a ton of sad, disturbing elements to every part of their storytelling, hence why they are "dark" fantasies.
@@_decency_6368 sure, but this is especially true for the Bloodborne. Dark Souls series at least has a few moments of ray of hope, such as Solarie Astora from dark souls 1(i mean, that is if you can help him to actually link the first flame), but in Bloodborne, it almost feels like there's no hope in it, not even the same raylight of hope as in other soulsbornes. In Bloodborne, there's only despair, bloodthirst, monsterhood, frenzy, insight and knowledge of tragedy of the world and the people in it.
I'd like to think that the wife ran into Gascoigne fighting the Yharnamites, she somehow got into the fight and was murdered by one of them, making Gascoigne go mad. Explains why he kept slicing up the corpses in madness and anger, and maybe that event was enough to tip him over to beasthood and insanity.
+frank haley If he did kill her it was most likely an accident. He clearly loved her enough to be driven mad by the sounds of the music box. But I doubt it, she seems like she was stabbed, not slashed by an axe. The town hunters use swords, pitchforks and axes. They were more likely the causes of her unfortunate demise.
+Dred nok Uh oh, your daughter loves random blood-covered strangers who knock on her door and get her a ribbon, but then provide no semblance of help with her survival thereafter? You should sit her down and teach her about "stranger danger"!
+zombievac Stranger danger was one of the worst things taught to children because it exposed them more to the real danger, people they know! Most violent crimes are done by someone from your family or neighbours. Sad tale, but such are statistics.
so you try and help a little girl find her parents. it takes you about 3 seconds to realize that you murdered one of them and also her "granddad". You then tell the girl to go to the cathedral ( or isofika's clinic. depends if you found the clinic.) and she dies either way. ( isofika dissects her on one of the tables. You walk in and see bloody surgical equipment if you sent her there). You then go back and give the big sister the ribbon and as you walk away she says " oh what a beautiful ribbon. and now it's mine" so moral of this video is that every single thing you touch dies. Also, was out Hunter really stupid enough to send an 8 year old girl out to the cathedral ALONE when we have died several times on that path and we are genetically augmented killers meant to purge a disease that turns people into ravenous monsters. but we send a little girl out on her own without a weapon. WTF. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED AN ANNOYING NPC ESCORT MISSION WHERE THEY RUN STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE MONSTERS. Why couldn't we just take the girl there?
Well everyone(other npcs you interact with) else made it to the oedeon chapel as well without getting eaten by the monster/beats. 8 year old girl or an average human are same in the eyes of the beasts. Unless you are hunter, you stand no chance of winning against the beasts. And the girls die either way if you just left them be since everyone will die or turn insane after the red moon becomes visible. She and her sister both will die no matter what you do. They are not surviving this game.
@@parthtyagi2086 Well if you think about it it an adult should be capable enough to sneak around the beasts and kinda keep your cool around them....but a little girl would simply tremble in fear...and kids aren't the sneakiest beings in general....
@@akiraamamiya8483 Well if a 70 year old woman made it perfectly fine that just yells her racism to the hunter than I suppose a young girl wouldn't have been too weird
For me, i found her WAYYYY later. So i forgot where i even got the brooch. Then she hit me with the "Is- is she really.... oh no. *sobs*" and i was like "Ohhhhhh.......Fuck......"
Vaati, here's the real kicker with the whole Bloodborne lore: EVERYTHING, goes back to Master Willem at Byrgenworth. Everything. The discovery of the blood, Ebrietas, the Old Ones, the founding of the Church, Choir and Mensis, all of it. So now here's the question How did a guy who's school is soley devoted to smoking weed and talking about the stars fuck up so hard that he got everyone killed in just a few years without ever leaving his chair?
MetalDrummer141 Master Willem didn't fuck up everything.He was like Einstein,researching in his study field to ascend to something more than mere humanity.What people did after with what he found is another story. As he says..."fear the old blood"
Bloodborne is my first from software game nobody prepared me for this... this is why I play cruel, it seems I help the world more by hunting and killing than by actually helping
Maybe it wasn't Gascoigne who killed his wife, maybe it was the Yarnamites who were hunting beasts and she caught in the middle of it and died. When Gascoigne found out that they had killed his wife, he lost all of his reason and brutally killed the Yarnamies losing sense of humanity, and thus becoming a beast.
I may be a little late to this discovery, excuse me if I am, but I wanted to pitch it anyway. Im an English teacher and I teach Renaissance poetry and discovered a poet by the name of George Gascoigne who was a mid level poet in that time (that's being generous). He wrote a poem called "Gascoigne's Lullaby", which references the deception of eyes and dreams multiple times...any chance this was a point of inspiration for the character?
+Patrick Morris God damn if that's true my respect for this game just went up even higher, it's like when you get the Contact gesture to talk to the Old Ones and if you google that gesture that is legitimately what you're supposed to do in real life if you ever come across an Alien because it shows that you know math by making a right angled triangle
6:55 "we don't have the heart to give a child her dead mothers brooch" ~flashback begins~ Well, well, well maybe not all of us but certainly some of us. ~Crying intensifies~
I've heard that if you don't talk to the little girl throughout the entirety of your adventure, that you can hear her sister going "Shh" to her if you walk past their house. I've heard this happens after you kill Rom..but I didn't have time to run through a third character and test it out. Can someone post here if they find out this is true? Because it would certainly help prove that the two girls live together, and that she's actually her sister (and not just lying about it to steal the ribbon).
VaatiVidya This is going by what I have heard. If you do give her the broach, later when you go back to see her, she is not there. Later still, if you go back after obtaining the Red messengers ribbon, the sister is at the house and you can talk to her. That is all I know, I hoped this helped in some small way ^^;
I have a theory on Gascoigne. If you pay attention to the cutscene that plays when you start the boss fight you notice Gascoigne has no eyes. He has a bandage over where they used to be and if you notice the bandage is still very bloody and looks new. My guess is that during his hunt he began to gain insight of some sort much like we do and he began to see things that began to drive him to madness. His descent into madness was sped even further by the blood lust and the insight he gained so maybe in order to stall the tide of madness Gascoigne gouged out his own eyes. All be it in vain. Just a thought I had
really? you just had a thought? you didn't hear that theory from this guys other top 10 bloodborne video? and also, "your" theory isn't supported by ANYTHING they way this guys is.
That actually is very accurate. Many of the npcs either have misty, kind of hazy eyes, or none at all. This is due to the fact that they can not bare what they see. Also later in the game, there are these old women who have spoons of some sort, of they grab you, they attempt to tear out your eyes. My guess is that people would go to these women when they could no longer bare to see.
@@dailynutrients5223 that phrase is a common turn of phrase or figure of speech in Ireland. So it logically makes sense that Gascoigne is an Irishman, or whatever the Bloodborne equivalent is for that. Jacksepticeye actually points this fact out as well in his own playthroughs.
Don't worry, we still love you. If there is one thing that can be called an absolute fact in Dark Souls, it's that you were the grandest adventurer of all time.
What about the demented response from the older sister where she laughs maniacally and says something about how now the pretty ribbon is now hers, and it's red! Something like that
The older girl is not the older sister of the family: - The little girl mentioned why she is alone and gave explanation for where all her family members are and why they went out during the hunt. She NEVER mentioned an older sister - It does not make sense that the second girl commits suicide when she is so cold blooded as to care more about the ribbon than her "sister" - Looking at the body of the second girl. If a person jump from great height or falls from great height, the only place they bleed out the most is the head. The blood splatter under the body indicates the wound is at the stomach level, there is barely any blood under the head. This shows that the girl most likely got stab in the stomach by something Conclusion: This second girl is a neighbor girl who always envied the bowtie from the little girl. Knowing that both the little girl's parents are away during the hunt, this older girl went over to the house to steal the bowtie. Whether you gave her the bowtie or not, she had to sneak back home afterward. Since the Father Gascoigne house is on a high ledge without any house relatively nearby, the older girl had to walk a little to reach her own house afterward and likely got killed by a beast or a villager. Since her body is intact for the most part, I assume its a villager that stabbed her. Why does the older girl wanted to steal something so small and insignificant during the dangerous hunt night? Because it probably a super expensive and beautiful piece of accessory that only rich people can afford and the older girl is likely came from a poor family. Notice how the houses are situated in the town. There are basement windows with people speaking from them. Likely poor people. There are houses on the main streets. Likely middle class people with shops. Then there are rich people who can afford a house in higher elevation that looks out at the city. This is where Father Gascoigne house is located at. At a high location. We can guess from this location, and the fact that they can afford a nice music box, and the fact that the mother wears high end looking clothing AND can wear an expensive necklace casually outside while looking for her husband. All this points to the idea that Father Gascoigne is rich. The ribbon is most likely extremely expensive and beautiful and the best thing a little rich girl can have.
"Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live I will kill you. If I die, you are forgiven" Such is the rule of honor." -Lamb of God
I agree about the storytelling aspect, but as a newcomer to the Soulsbourne series Father Gascoigne almost made me quit completely! Glad I didn't, but Jesus Christ he was brutal. To be fair though, as much pain as he caused me, the moment I finally defeated him is one of my favourite moments playing games... And I've been playing games since about 1990! My wife hear me cheering from upstairs, haha
Great story lines, idk which is more sad, this storyline or onion bro’s in Ds1. Knowing we sent a lil girl to her death or took away a noble mans duty for him to go hollow
If Gascoignes daughter had made it to The Cathedral Ward she would have had to pass through Oden Chapel and see the dead bodies of her Mother and Father :(
"Oh hey, it's the middle of the night, monsters are all over the place and there's this little girl who probably ought to go somewhere else. I should probably escort her to a safer place. Nah let her go on her own. Git gud kid." -idiot hunter
the little girls sister laughs when you give her the ribbon and slowly walk away. saying something along the lines of, its mine I finally have it. or something like that
Ok, i know people have been saying theorys that gascoigne didnt kill viola- I completly agree. First off, when you enter the area, he seems more- sad or angry compared to usual- If you listen to his summoned lines, he seems thrilled to know that everythings a beast that he can kill- But when he looks at the good hunter, he looks at you and says his good ole line "Beasts all over the shop, soon 'nough you'll be one of em too" But there isnt an ounce of joy from the idea of killing a 'beast' or even a future beast And he was killing beasts by the stairs, At the speed gascoigne charges at you- No beast would manage to get that far to him witnout being mowed down by the skilled hunter- Id say he's mad with greivence and blood drunk, it was losing his wife that broke him The music box doesnt remind him of him killing her, it reminds him of what he lost- and all the moments he wont be able to experience again-
Problem is that he apologies when he dies. He doesn't apologize to hunter since he's already insane it would make sense he apologies for killing his wife otherwise what else?
i dont think he killed his wife. i mean, when you find gascoigne he's slicing up someone. not only that, but he talks and acts normal, some thing no one who's become a beast displays the ability to do. i think its more likely she was killed in front of him, and this caused him to lose himself
***** Considering he makes a living off things like this....I'd say he's a bit more hardcore than people who quote unquote: "Just go through the game to PVP". ;)
Considering this series used to have a title that was a spin on the marketing tagline for Dark Souls "Prepare to Die/Cry"; no, it means you feel empathy.
I'd like to believe that Henrik is the father of Viola, so the actual grandfather of the girls. He is standing quite close to building where Viola lies on top off, maybe he found his dead daughter in addition to learn that his partner and son-in-law was also taken care of. That might also explain how Gascoigne met Viola, as the daughter of his work partner. Not sure if this is true, but it sounds like a nice concept in my mind.
That makes sense. I mean, literally who else could the girl be referring to as 'grampa'? And while it's possible that she just calls him that because he's old, at face value it's more likely that he was her actual grandfather.
pdragon619 Or he could have just been a hunter for god knows how long. Having to deal with that for most your old life would start to tear anyone down. Those sayings about Henrik are also implied to have been around before Gascoigne even dies.
Wow, apparently I glossed over a lot of shit in Bloodborne (guess that's what happens when you're just trying to survive). It's crazy how many subtle details are buried in these games that imply surprisingly powerful stories. I had no idea that the daughter of Gascoigne was eaten by the giant pig in the sewer. Most games go out of their way to shove story elements in your face; like great literature and art, the creators behind these games prefer ambiguity and the intriguing art of inference.
When I gave the older daughter the red ribbon, I walked slowly away, then I heard another dialog from her. Super creepy about how she always wanted that ribbon and giggling. Not sure if anyone else heard it.
Listen for the whispers, the whispers of an old man leading a girl. Grandpa was home protecting her, until he learned about his Daughter's demise. A Woman so important, that her death caused two to go insane.
I remember when I started playing this game I wast really into its story or characters. Then I talked to the girl and got the music box and read its description, and then I encounter Gascoigne, and I realized how deep the game’s story really was.
This quest line always puts me to tears, but I didn't even realize that Henryk was also part of the family... geez we really just f*cked this entire family up. I've never hated myself so much for playing one of my favorite games.
I love that the little girl knows both her parents are missing, but only asks you to find the mom. Begs the question whether she just trusts her dad will make it home, or whether she doesn't want him to come back.
The ending revelation fucked me up. The fact that if you don't talk to the girl maybe the bloodline survives through them. As much as I hated fighting Gascoigne, I feel for him.
jesus i didnt realize how deep Gascoigne's story was, it seemed normal the whole time til the girl died in the tunnel. man that shit hit me hard. had the daughters survived through the night, the whole story could've changed. henryk wouldnt gone insane and he could've been of help or a useful npc. such a shame.
when I gave the older sister the ribbon, as I walked away she said something along the lines of "oh it's so wonderful" and "now I have such a wonderful ribbon" and she sounded almost demented. almost like she was pleased that her sister was dead...
Personally, I always interpreted it as her being on the brink of losing her mind. When the Red Moon arrives, it causes people to go mad, from what i've noticed in my playthroughs. The older sister was probably already losing her sanity by the time you find her in-game, and giving her a memory of her dead little sister pushed her over the edge. Not only that, but considering when you find her again... well... let's just say the people of From Software are masters at making you feel terrible for trying to do questlines.
+Mike Adkins the blood moon also makes other characters go crazy like you know the sick guy in the window near the first lamp you light in the game? (it's 10pm and i didn't wan the search his name up) He actually turns in to a beast after the blood moon rises.
I remember in my first play through when I was asked if I could find the little girls mother I put it off for later because I wanted to progress through Yharnam first. By the time I was at the cathedral I couldn’t find the Gasogine house, makes me happy that I didn’t inadvertently end an entire bloodline
But since Gascoigne was actively pursued by everyone in Yharnam ("Death to the ministers!"), woudln't be possible that the Yharnamites killed Gascoigne's wife ? She was looking for him, and they were looking for him as well... Surely, there has to be an encounter of some kind... This would explain why Gascoigne has gone mad, and why he's butchering Yharnamites when we first encounter him. Does this sound probable to you guys ? (sorry for the bad english, I'm french)
I'm not racist, but I believe that theory is much more likely than Gascoigne killing his wife. I've always found it weird to assume that. I like to think that the yarnhamites were the ones tha killed his wife, which made Gascoigne go mad and kill them all.
Thing is, they are very specific about how Viola left behind the only thing that could calm Gascoigne. I feel like they added that element to it to make it clear that she was killed by him.
Shroom Mush Yeah, that part is a really big hint that he's probably the one that did the killin'. It would also explain much better why hearing the music box makes him stagger, instead of remember he's got a daughter (or two) he needs to protect or thinking you are his wife and smooching you. He's more likely wracked with guilt, than remembering some other doods killed his wife.
Sir Gus the Mighty That is by far the most racist theory I have ever heard. The yarnhamites were clearly expressing rage at the socio-political cesspool the Healing Church had forced them into, and that violently manifesting said rage was the only outlet left to them. Those ministers need to put their axes down and stop being so kill happy! #bloodlivesmatter! Bigot...
It's sick the amount of smalls details you can pick from the game. I really did not understand 5% of the game without these videos... Thanks a lot mate. Bloodborne is a piece of art.
Stephen Weir Tell her to pack some Molotovs or throwing knives for the fight after Gascoigne transforms. It only takes 2 molotovs to take him out I think, and the first one is easy since you can toss it as he's transforming. You can also ring the music box twice to get some cheap hits on him in the first part of the phase, and after he transforms you can play the music box once to get an easy backstab & finish him off with throwing knives as he gets up.
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I never noticed the Yharnamites call you the minister when you're wearing Gascoigne's clothes, really changes my perspective to know that he was actively pursued by everyone in Yharnam.
Father Gascoigne's story is one of the saddest I've heard, and since it takes place so near the start of the game, I think it's a fantastic tone-setter for the rest of the story: dark, gloomy, and with very few happy moments.
The thing is...If you never talk to the girl at all, They both die anyway. After killing rom, I remembered this little girl. I went back to her window, Only to find it burst open...The girls were surely dead, All I did was give them a little more time to be so.
Yesh but they can die even if thats doesnt happen. All npcs i think will die if they are not at the oedeon chapel once the red moon becomes visible after we kill rom the vacous spider.
@@parthtyagi2086 Honestly, in this world with all the monsters, otherworldly creatures and many other things to drive one mad... Maybe death isn't so terrible.
The night has a thousand eyes, And the day but one; Yet the light of the bright world dies With the dying sun The mind has a thousand eyes, And the heart but one: Yet the light of a whole life dies When love is done
Xigbar Master Of Masters the point of the game’s main and side quests is that, even when we do what should be best for everyone, we still fuck it up and twist the world more. for example, the most galant choice to make out of the three endings is to kill gehrman and the moon presence to end the cycles of the hunt for you and all other hunters who aren’t yet blood drunk, but doing so just creates a new entity to sustain the cycle: You.
i have listened to these multiple times as a podcast on long drives, but now i have sat and watched, your editing and choice of costume to sell the scene is phenomenal.
Though there are some great characters in Bloodborne - Gascoigne, Gehrman, Annalise, and so on - I feel like the NPCs that had quest lines associated with them were disappointing. Maybe even more so than Benhart and Lucatiel. Granted, the progression was better than 'kill 3 bosses with help' but...I just felt like even though they had stand-out moments (Eileen's fights, and Alfred's victory speech)...I just...didn't really give much of a shit when they were over. Compared to Siegmeyer, Solaire (bad ending), and even Ostrava, I felt a bit let down on the NPC quest front.
I agree somewhat, although I genuinely loved Elieen's quest. Just her being constantly one upped by you as you help her, and her evetual progression to realizing her abilities have gotten so much inferior ober the years was genuinely compelling. And I loved how it played out. Beating Henryk, defeating the mad Cainhurst knight. It felt like a progressive and climactic moment that was continuously built up and given a fitting catharsis. I won't hesitate to say that Eileen is one of my favorite characters in the souls series. I also enjoyed Alfred's, but I understand why some dislike his ambiguity filled ending, despite me loving that aspect.
PoliteTimesplitter I actually have to disagree with Alfred's questline ending. Seeing him go crazy was an amazing shock factor that fitted into the game. Eileen's is pretty bad, even though the fights are cool. However, I wouldn't say they're as bad as Benhart, who just seemed to talk about his sword the entire time. Literally all he ever says is "Didn't expect to see you here", and "...no better place to test my sword". He also seems to always talk about owing a debt to you, when all you ever did was summon him and clear the pathway. Eileen on the other hand actually runs down to help you when she finds out you didn't follow her warning. That being said, Lucatiel and her dumb AI had a pretty good story to it. She's completely unaware of the curse that's happening to her and even gives you the temporary cure that could've saved her without knowing what it does. With stories about her brother and the line, "My name is Lucatiel. I beg of you, remember my name. For I may not myself", is one of the best lines in Dark Souls 2.
PoliteTimesplitter I disagree. At least there was story behind Bloodborne's characters. Lucatiel's story was all right but Benhart's was awful, and the rest of the NPC's in Dks2 were pretty awful as well, particularly when the Blacksmith's daughter returns home and they don't even speak to each other.
Funny thing about From Software games, is that when you learn about certain bosses stories, you feel sympathy, or pity for them. Then you might hesitate to kill him.
Davyen All excpet for Pinwheel...because breathing in his general direction kills him so quickly that you don't even have time to feel sympathy. Leeroy going apeshit on him doesn't help either XD.
"My, my.. your a fellow hunter aren't you? Good to see another hunter around.. Do you still have the dreams about you? I see.. I stopped dreaming long ago.. Oh before we part, say hello to that doll for me.. been ages since ive seen that las.. Thank you, and have a good hunt my friend."
Cure4Living What are you talking about? Everyone lives if you don't finish their stories in Dark Souls 1, and you can even save Soltiere. This is the first time all the NPCs are actually fucked no matter what you do.
THE GIRL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LADDER ISNT THE YOUNGER GIRLS SISTER. The girl who comes in the house after Father G’s daughter gets tragically eaten by the pig was a girl who lived at the bottom of the ladder where the troll is. She would’ve seen the girl leave to take route to the chapel. After seeing the girl leave she broke in to steal the girls ribbon. There’s a rare dialogue the older girl will play while in Father G’s house the dialogue is as follows “what a perfect ribbon. And now it’s mine. I can’t wait to try it on.”
if you give her that bloodie ribbon....she will giggle for how it's so beatiful after you climb down the ladder..... everybody gone mad in this damn game
I always took tragically long life to mean Gacoigne's. I took it to mean Heinrik wouldn't hunt Gascoigne after he had started to turn because of their friendship. Made more sense to me.
+UC23 King Conor Devotee Hey, you're an overly emotional guy, but that's not always a bad thing. Just don't judge a book by the cov-- I mean, the various trolls you see online who find the mythical (and mostly untrue) difficulty too daunting, and therefore have to find ways to justify their hatred of themselves and the game to compensate their ePeen length. The game has "no story" for those with no attention span, poor reading comprehension, little analytical skills, no imagination, or a combination thereof!
zombievac I'm on NG+3 right now and i agree with you about that trolls.The bosses aren't that hard except maybe Gehrman and Logarius.Anyways bloodborne is one of the best games i've ever played...
I never really encountered Gasgoine’s daughters in their houses so it’s safe to say that they survived. Hell even Eileen died to Henryk in my play through.
You know I have a theory: The little girl NEVER had an older sister. Think about it She says "I love mom,dad and grandad." And never once mentioned the supposed "older sister" in any conversations. It could be that the older girl is a thief or something that would go to lone houses to get some goods as the residence would be out hunting. That could be one reason why she goes "mad" but was actually envious of the little girl for her white ribbon or something Ya know??
***** possible, however it's also possible that she wasn't on good terms with her older sister (with her most likely being envious of her all the time etc, which also explains the ribbon). you can have a family member and not love them ya know XD.
LoDsuper yeah but at times like these when you are LITERALLY in hell And your parents are gone. I'd like to hold my older sibling close No matter what. Plus she is a little girl she must have mentioned the older sister at least That's what I found strange
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I’ve played BB for yeeeeeeears, but never knew the story. I recently got my PS4 fixed just to play this again. I’m now getting into the story and binge watching your videos. Material is wonderful. Thank you!!!!
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How to play a from software game
Step 1. Help someone in need
Step 2. Do something good and pure hearted
Step 3. Listen to how you've ruined everybodies life
Step : 4 commit seppuku
5. Buy some shit from patches
+scout wizardman did you mean sudoku?
yes
6. win with moonlight greatsword.
From Software Lore in in two sentences:
Even when you try to do good, you ruin peoples lives. Have fun, you monster.
***** all you can do is try.... if you do that does it really matter what happens in the end? thats the question you have to ask yourself... is it really your fault? or are you just trying your best and youre not the one to blame
***** I wish he linked the fire, that'd be pretty cool
***** is there an article that confirms it?
Jakjer It was in a podcast, Miyasaki said that the only "good" ending in dark souls was that if you manage to make Solaire get into the firelink, so he could fullfil his dream.
theperuvianX yeah, just googled it, he links the fire in his own world.
"We're looking for a man garbed in black" Oh yeah, that narrows it down alright
"Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"
@@pelinalwhitestrake9306 I KNOW THIS REFERENCE BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER WHERE IT'S FROM
Space Boss Batman beyond
That rule out Alfred at least
@@pelinalwhitestrake9306 lol!
I don't think Gascoigne killed Viola. Look at her, she's not exactly been mauled, if anything it looks like someone shot her, or stabbed her. Gascoigne uses a shotgun and swings an axe in wide arcs. Her corpse would show evidence of multiple bullets, or wide cuts if Gascoigne had killed her.
No, Gascoigne didn't kill her.
The Yharnamites did.
Gascoigne finds her body, and those responsible. *This* pushes him over the edge. He goes berserk, slaughtering the Yharnamites, hacking them to pieces, giving in to his inner beast. We arrive, to find Gascoigne too far gone. The music box reminds him of who he was, and who he lost. However, it cannot break the grip of the beast because at the same time as it calls to the "real" Gascoigne, it reminds him of the woman he loved, and her senseless murder driving him back into a frenzied rage.
i thought so too.
I'm pretty sure he killed her. She didn't have the music box, and the little girl specifically says they use it to make him *remember* them. I don't think he recognised her, with him being so drunk on the blood. He figured she was just another person ready to change at an instant, so he killed without even realising who she was.
Agentcoolguy1 I’d agree; but the music box “ignites a light” inside of him, and makes him remember who they were. It seems he has an internal struggle when you play it. Maybe that makes him realize what he’s done, and therefore more quickly pushes him to complete beasthood? It’s definitely either: The yharnamites killed her, or he did.
You stole my legal name
If I had only read further into the comments before I made my post, I'd have found this one.
Always read, kids.
As much as I hate escort missions, I'd have happily protected the girl on her way to the chapel. Hell, I'd bring her sister along. Though honestly they are safer in their home, so yeah, just not interfering is really the best choice
The King of the Penguins I love your profile pic!
The Jam Man Thanks!
The King of the Penguins agreed.
They end up turning into abhorrent beasts
Connor Schelby maybe but isn't it usually people that were blood ministered I don't think everyone in yarnham was so there could be a slight chance that they survived till morning
"It's almost like his last words are 'Forgive me...'" "AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!"
indeed hahah
FueledByHysteria that's what I'm saying
You can hear it pretty clearly with good headphones on.
I just gave it a listen on some solid headphones and it sounds like that's what it could be if it's what' your trying to hear. To me, it sounds vague enough to be a coincidence rather than intentional from the developer. But who knows?
it's faint but it is there I hear it clearly
I always thought they were sisters until I got this dialogue I had missed so many times. The older girl pretends to cry until you walk away and hear “what a perfect ribbon. And now it’s mine. I can’t wait to try it on.” Now you could write it off as she’s just insane like most yharnamites are becoming but the fact she says “what a perfect ribbon” implies that she’s never been so close to the ribbon or held it herself. It makes sense. The first little girl NEVER mentions a sister and even lists off a bunch of people she loves. The second girl only arrives after you’ve sent the first to cathedral ward or the clinic. I think that the second girl lives in one of the 2 houses at the bottom of the ladder. The first little girl had to have went thru there. So the second girl sees her leave and makes her way to gascoignes house looking for the ribbon and when you get there she lies about being her sister so she won’t get in trouble. After giving her the ribbon she cleans the blood from it and tries to sneak back to her home but can’t avoid the troll coming down the ladder. This also makes sense because If you run past the troll you can go up the ladder before he can hit you but if you’re coming down the ladder he’s liable to hit you right as you come off. I think this theory falls in line with the whole theme of deception in this game from the NPCs like Iosefkas imposter and The suspicious beggar. Anyway we’ll NEVER know for sure. All according to Miyazaki’s plan.
That actually makes sense. The "sister" being stupid enough to come out in the middle of the hunt fits the yharnamite madness (or simple stupidity)
The Huntsman Minion is her brother, he's just standing outside their door with a bow on it, for no reason, he also says "so cold... dear sister" when near her body and idle and he says "it's your fault" when attacking, which it is.
I suppose this is possible, I mean Miyazaki intentionally left a lot of things unanswered. However I always thought of the older girl's crazed sounding monologue about the ribbon as just a crazy way to try and deal with the trauma of her sister getting killed, however, after she came to her senses, she realizes that her entire family is dead, and she succumbs to grief and kills herself.
@@B3AROTAN This makes the most sense to me as well.
Blowing my mind with this
Dev Team: "So how much suffering do you want in the story?"
Miyazaki: "YES"
Miyazaki: **smokes weed** you know how depressing dark souls is? How about we crank that shit up by a 100 in bloodborne
Who’s miyazaki
@@Na-be3cv The man who directed most of the soulsborne games, including Elden Ring
Lol true, but stories from dark fantasies almost always have a ton of sad, disturbing elements to every part of their storytelling, hence why they are "dark" fantasies.
@@_decency_6368 sure, but this is especially true for the Bloodborne. Dark Souls series at least has a few moments of ray of hope, such as Solarie Astora from dark souls 1(i mean, that is if you can help him to actually link the first flame), but in Bloodborne, it almost feels like there's no hope in it, not even the same raylight of hope as in other soulsbornes. In Bloodborne, there's only despair, bloodthirst, monsterhood, frenzy, insight and knowledge of tragedy of the world and the people in it.
I'd like to think that the wife ran into Gascoigne fighting the Yharnamites, she somehow got into the fight and was murdered by one of them, making Gascoigne go mad. Explains why he kept slicing up the corpses in madness and anger, and maybe that event was enough to tip him over to beasthood and insanity.
not a bad theory
that would also explain why the music box only seems to cause him pain
We all know HE killed her
+frank haley If he did kill her it was most likely an accident. He clearly loved her enough to be driven mad by the sounds of the music box. But I doubt it, she seems like she was stabbed, not slashed by an axe. The town hunters use swords, pitchforks and axes. They were more likely the causes of her unfortunate demise.
How'd she end up on the roof?
"Oh my gods, what have I done?!" -Everyone of us
acts of evil aren't always foolish acts of good aren't always wise - martyr logarios
Khaled Daoud
However, we must always strive to be good. - Martyr Logarios
Sexy Miles Except I toatally didnt know about talking to the windows until AFTER I killed Gascoin
"The road to hell is paved by good intentions"
Sexy Miles I didn't talk to her so majority of people
I used Gascoigne's questline in my D&D campaign and my players bawled their eyes out. Such a good questline.
Thats pretty evil LOL.
You are a cruel bastard. Brilliant, but a cruel bastard nonetheless
I need to be a player in a blood borne campaign 😭😭😭. Or even a sekiro, dark souls, or elden Ring campaign
I need to know how you did that 😭
Wow, you’re practically a born narrator, your voice is so calm, yet serious. It’s just so narrative.
talented
He sounds too relaxed talking about how a bloodline was ended in 1 night
@@yarnhatter1632 yea…likes he’s done it before…
Should be working for BBC tbh
"I love you as much as mum and dad" Feels x 1000
She reminds me of my daughter.
+Dred nok Uh oh, your daughter loves random blood-covered strangers who knock on her door and get her a ribbon, but then provide no semblance of help with her survival thereafter? You should sit her down and teach her about "stranger danger"!
+zombievac Just meant her voice lol.
+zombievac Stranger danger was one of the worst things taught to children because it exposed them more to the real danger, people they know! Most violent crimes are done by someone from your family or neighbours. Sad tale, but such are statistics.
+Seki Banki then you find out you murdered her xD
"And when daddy forgets us, we play it for him so he remembers"
fuck
i'm crying
The OJHgamer It's ok, it's just a game!
+TurdBurglar20 New Game + that shit
you should have prepared to cry
That's like the least sad line
Shut your emotional ass up
so you try and help a little girl find her parents. it takes you about 3 seconds to realize that you murdered one of them and also her "granddad". You then tell the girl to go to the cathedral ( or isofika's clinic. depends if you found the clinic.) and she dies either way. ( isofika dissects her on one of the tables. You walk in and see bloody surgical equipment if you sent her there). You then go back and give the big sister the ribbon and as you walk away she says " oh what a beautiful ribbon. and now it's mine" so moral of this video is that every single thing you touch dies.
Also, was out Hunter really stupid enough to send an 8 year old girl out to the cathedral ALONE when we have died several times on that path and we are genetically augmented killers meant to purge a disease that turns people into ravenous monsters. but we send a little girl out on her own without a weapon. WTF. I WOULD HAVE PREFERRED AN ANNOYING NPC ESCORT MISSION WHERE THEY RUN STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE MONSTERS. Why couldn't we just take the girl there?
for something is called "the nightmare"
Well everyone(other npcs you interact with) else made it to the oedeon chapel as well without getting eaten by the monster/beats. 8 year old girl or an average human are same in the eyes of the beasts. Unless you are hunter, you stand no chance of winning against the beasts. And the girls die either way if you just left them be since everyone will die or turn insane after the red moon becomes visible. She and her sister both will die no matter what you do. They are not surviving this game.
@@parthtyagi2086
Well if you think about it it an adult should be capable enough to sneak around the beasts and kinda keep your cool around them....but a little girl would simply tremble in fear...and kids aren't the sneakiest beings in general....
@@akiraamamiya8483 Well if a 70 year old woman made it perfectly fine that just yells her racism to the hunter than I suppose a young girl wouldn't have been too weird
> *every single thing you touch dies*
"OH, DINKLEBERG! AREN'T YOU GONNA COME OVER AND GIVE MY HUNTER A CONGRATULATORY HAND TOUCH?"
"We don't have the heart to give a child her dead mother's brooch."
Speak for yourself. I was expecting a fat reward.
Yer a witcher
LMAOOO me too
skyrim kinda shit lol
Same
For me, i found her WAYYYY later. So i forgot where i even got the brooch. Then she hit me with the "Is- is she really.... oh no. *sobs*" and i was like "Ohhhhhh.......Fuck......"
Man what a depressing story my god.
+KangarooBeard as always in the soulsborn games...but i like the approach the developers take a lot. kinda unique and a "welcome" change
no the little girl becomes a celestial being but you can kill her but that would just guilt trip me killing her after saving her
+meaningless words she only becomes a kin if you send her to iosefka.
do you know of the world of tokyo ghoul or attack on titan? after you've seen thoose this counts as a happy story
Its a from soft gane so of course it is
Vaati, here's the real kicker with the whole Bloodborne lore: EVERYTHING, goes back to Master Willem at Byrgenworth. Everything. The discovery of the blood, Ebrietas, the Old Ones, the founding of the Church, Choir and Mensis, all of it. So now here's the question
How did a guy who's school is soley devoted to smoking weed and talking about the stars fuck up so hard that he got everyone killed in just a few years without ever leaving his chair?
MetalDrummer141 "smoking weed" Rofl
That's "incense" mang ... Well, they want you to believe that lie
Toonl97 Beasts aren't hip to the ganja mang.
MetalDrummer141 Smoke weed song plays while they talk to the Great Ones.
MetalDrummer141 Master Willem didn't fuck up everything.He was like Einstein,researching in his study field to ascend to something more than mere humanity.What people did after with what he found is another story.
As he says..."fear the old blood"
I never talked to the children after I beat Gascoigne in my first playthrough. Yay I saved them!
Nay, still die! lol
Soul of Cinder Until the blood moon rises and turns everyone mad.
i think the only survivors are the ones in the chapel assuming the begger doesnt kill them
Me too :)
Jombo yeah. But you killed their daddy
"No one can foretell the consequences of your good intentions"
-Patches the Unbreakable
Trying to do something pure ends in the misery of others, sounds like a souls game
Bloodborne is my first from software game
nobody prepared me for this...
this is why I play cruel, it seems I help the world more by hunting and killing than by actually helping
U need to play the dark souls 2 remake followed by DS3 of course
The road to horrible pig death is paved with good intentions.
Ironically, being the good guy always gets everyone killed.
*Gives me conniptions...*
Bloodborne is obviously the after of the souls series
Maybe it wasn't Gascoigne who killed his wife, maybe it was the Yarnamites who were hunting beasts and she caught in the middle of it and died. When Gascoigne found out that they had killed his wife, he lost all of his reason and brutally killed the Yarnamies losing sense of humanity, and thus becoming a beast.
I may be a little late to this discovery, excuse me if I am, but I wanted to pitch it anyway. Im an English teacher and I teach Renaissance poetry and discovered a poet by the name of George Gascoigne who was a mid level poet in that time (that's being generous). He wrote a poem called "Gascoigne's Lullaby", which references the deception of eyes and dreams multiple times...any chance this was a point of inspiration for the character?
+Patrick Morris That's puurty cool mayne! Learn something new about this game everyday!
+Patrick Morris thats a neat little idea
+Patrick Morris Neat little tidbit, even if it's actually unrelated. Thumbs up! *-*b
+Ausdrake thanks! It's always fun to see where inspiration is found, and if it isn't where it was found, then I can steal it and use it for something!
+Patrick Morris God damn if that's true my respect for this game just went up even higher, it's like when you get the Contact gesture to talk to the Old Ones and if you google that gesture that is legitimately what you're supposed to do in real life if you ever come across an Alien because it shows that you know math by making a right angled triangle
6:55 "we don't have the heart to give a child her dead mothers brooch"
~flashback begins~
Well, well, well maybe not all of us but certainly some of us.
~Crying intensifies~
Yeah dude i totally didn’t think about it, and when i comeback and she not here I’m like « well fuck »
@@mallow8973 wait... shes not there... what have I done
So… We ended up making her so miserable that she took her life?
I've heard that if you don't talk to the little girl throughout the entirety of your adventure, that you can hear her sister going "Shh" to her if you walk past their house.
I've heard this happens after you kill Rom..but I didn't have time to run through a third character and test it out. Can someone post here if they find out this is true? Because it would certainly help prove that the two girls live together, and that she's actually her sister (and not just lying about it to steal the ribbon).
VaatiVidya
This is going by what I have heard.
If you do give her the broach, later when you go back to see her, she is not there. Later still, if you go back after obtaining the Red messengers ribbon, the sister is at the house and you can talk to her.
That is all I know, I hoped this helped in some small way ^^;
Hmm I might just find out for myself?!
This is intresting, but if it is true, I wonder why she would say "Shh"
MyMagical Fries probaly because she wouldn't want to risk attracting a beast maybe?
I don't know I heard that the older sister sends out the girl to die
The oldest sister actually laughs and starts saying how pretty the ribbon is if you take a few steps away from the window
@@___meph___4547 she doesn't, she dies to the pig trying to get to the cathedral ward after u offer her a safe haven
@@___meph___4547 she was likely killed by a troll
Ignorance is bliss, knowledge in bloodborne only causes more madness
@@christopheraguirre1546 she had to pay the troll toll
@@lazyinsight5614 indeed, such as having more insight about the world. Just like in the game.
I have a theory on Gascoigne.
If you pay attention to the cutscene that plays when you start the boss fight you notice Gascoigne has no eyes. He has a bandage over where they used to be and if you notice the bandage is still very bloody and looks new. My guess is that during his hunt he began to gain insight of some sort much like we do and he began to see things that began to drive him to madness. His descent into madness was sped even further by the blood lust and the insight he gained so maybe in order to stall the tide of madness Gascoigne gouged out his own eyes. All be it in vain.
Just a thought I had
+N Crimson that is a amazing theory just defeated the bastard
+william holmes I hated his transformation
really? you just had a thought? you didn't hear that theory from this guys other top 10 bloodborne video? and also, "your" theory isn't supported by ANYTHING they way this guys is.
+AggieEngineer1 chill
That actually is very accurate. Many of the npcs either have misty, kind of hazy eyes, or none at all. This is due to the fact that they can not bare what they see. Also later in the game, there are these old women who have spoons of some sort, of they grab you, they attempt to tear out your eyes. My guess is that people would go to these women when they could no longer bare to see.
As is often the case with character questlines in Soulsborne games - "The only winning move is not to play."
"... had the pig not consumed her in the sewers."
...
That is hilariously tragic.
drpapa26 what if it was a giant frog that would make it hilarious just imagine she looks down there and poof the tounge pulls her into its mouth
How does a pig even eat people???
@@kalenjoseph5859 Pigs eat basically anything. They can eat the bodies of humans, bones and all.
Not even a Solaire-esque option to save her...
What if I kill the pig and then ask her to go the chapel.
Beasts all over the shop... you'll be one of them, sooner or later.
“What’s that smell?”
i love that quote, makes me wish we knew more about gascoigne before he went mad
@@dailynutrients5223 that phrase is a common turn of phrase or figure of speech in Ireland. So it logically makes sense that Gascoigne is an Irishman, or whatever the Bloodborne equivalent is for that. Jacksepticeye actually points this fact out as well in his own playthroughs.
"leave the honting of honters to me" lol
"Ahhh, a hoontah are yuh?
@@OrphanCrippler1 Ye
Fuck that bitch
“You know nuthin Jon Snow”
OI YA GAT A LOICENCE FOR TAKING MAH MARK?
I can relate to this story. I went hollow, and attacked my daughter.
Damn onion bro, I would have saved you if I could
and that is why Siegward is better✌️😔😳😔🐽😂👉🥺🍤🥭😁🙈👌👈🤷♂️👁🦷😭
Damn, that's tough. Wanna get drunk?
Don't worry, we still love you. If there is one thing that can be called an absolute fact in Dark Souls, it's that you were the grandest adventurer of all time.
A toast, perhaps?
'I love you as much as I love mum and dad'
that broke my heart.
What about the demented response from the older sister where she laughs maniacally and says something about how now the pretty ribbon is now hers, and it's red! Something like that
WAIT WHAT!?
I was thinking about that and how no one pointed that out
Same, I found it odd no one commented about this.
Jesus Christ
she probably went mad on the account of her entire family being slaughtered in a single night
The older girl is not the older sister of the family:
- The little girl mentioned why she is alone and gave explanation for where all her family members are and why they went out during the hunt. She NEVER mentioned an older sister
- It does not make sense that the second girl commits suicide when she is so cold blooded as to care more about the ribbon than her "sister"
- Looking at the body of the second girl. If a person jump from great height or falls from great height, the only place they bleed out the most is the head. The blood splatter under the body indicates the wound is at the stomach level, there is barely any blood under the head. This shows that the girl most likely got stab in the stomach by something
Conclusion: This second girl is a neighbor girl who always envied the bowtie from the little girl. Knowing that both the little girl's parents are away during the hunt, this older girl went over to the house to steal the bowtie. Whether you gave her the bowtie or not, she had to sneak back home afterward. Since the Father Gascoigne house is on a high ledge without any house relatively nearby, the older girl had to walk a little to reach her own house afterward and likely got killed by a beast or a villager. Since her body is intact for the most part, I assume its a villager that stabbed her.
Why does the older girl wanted to steal something so small and insignificant during the dangerous hunt night?
Because it probably a super expensive and beautiful piece of accessory that only rich people can afford and the older girl is likely came from a poor family. Notice how the houses are situated in the town. There are basement windows with people speaking from them. Likely poor people. There are houses on the main streets. Likely middle class people with shops. Then there are rich people who can afford a house in higher elevation that looks out at the city. This is where Father Gascoigne house is located at. At a high location. We can guess from this location, and the fact that they can afford a nice music box, and the fact that the mother wears high end looking clothing AND can wear an expensive necklace casually outside while looking for her husband. All this points to the idea that Father Gascoigne is rich. The ribbon is most likely extremely expensive and beautiful and the best thing a little rich girl can have.
Interesting
"At least I'll have something to remember her by" doesn't really work with that theory...
Tasorius she already lied about being the older sister, maybe she was still lying to get us to go away so she can leave and go back to her house
@@abdullahaljassar7463 She might have been infected too...
Tasorius still doesn’t explain why the little girl didn’t mention her “older sister”
''He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man''
-Samuel Johnson
“To mothafuck, or not to mothafuck, what kind of mothafuckin question is that?”
-Samuel L. Jackson
"Mankind are governed more by their feelings than by reason."
-Samuel Adams
*avenged sevenfold starts blasting*
"Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward.
Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both.
For a wounded man shall say to his assailant "If I live I will kill you. If I die, you are forgiven"
Such is the rule of honor."
-Lamb of God
Gascoine is my favorite boss in the game. In my opinion he is the ultimate form of incorporating story and gameplay together.
I think Ludwig is better but gascoigne still excellent
@@matheusabreudocouto3820 Yeah Ludwig is amazing. By far the coolest design and super challenging as well.
I agree about the storytelling aspect, but as a newcomer to the Soulsbourne series Father Gascoigne almost made me quit completely! Glad I didn't, but Jesus Christ he was brutal.
To be fair though, as much pain as he caused me, the moment I finally defeated him is one of my favourite moments playing games... And I've been playing games since about 1990! My wife hear me cheering from upstairs, haha
Absolutely right
Great story lines, idk which is more sad, this storyline or onion bro’s in Ds1. Knowing we sent a lil girl to her death or took away a noble mans duty for him to go hollow
If Gascoignes daughter had made it to The Cathedral Ward she would have had to pass through Oden Chapel and see the dead bodies of her Mother and Father :(
Bro stop 😭
I couldn’t keep the truth from her. I gave her mother’s broach back. Let her mourn. That way I don’t send her to her death.
For once I'm glad I missed something in one of the soulsbourne games
Oh she still dies.
@@ASmartNameForMe Or goes mad
@@ashikjaman1940 or that
@@ASmartNameForMe if a tree falls in the Forbidden Woods and no hunters are around to hear it, does it make a sound?
@@avery-james *YOU! ARE NOT WANTED HERE!*
"Oh hey, it's the middle of the night, monsters are all over the place and there's this little girl who probably ought to go somewhere else. I should probably escort her to a safer place.
Nah let her go on her own. Git gud kid."
-idiot hunter
The "I have two sides" meme personified
the little girls sister laughs when you give her the ribbon and slowly walk away. saying something along the lines of, its mine I finally have it. or something like that
Oh shit, THAT'S who attacked me when I returned to Tomb of Oedon?
I thought some dude had invaded me.
"We don't have the heart to give a little girl her dead mothers brooch" I must be the minority cause I totally did lmao
Me too :)
Mason Delbridge Well, your profile pic is Guts after all...
Same she still died by the pig tho even tho never sent her out
Right?! At leSt she can pawn it and get groceries and pay the re nt the next day, now thays having a heart
Same. Wish i didn't though, I would've gotten a blood gem from it.
Ok, i know people have been saying theorys that gascoigne didnt kill viola-
I completly agree.
First off, when you enter the area, he seems more- sad or angry compared to usual-
If you listen to his summoned lines, he seems thrilled to know that everythings a beast that he can kill-
But when he looks at the good hunter, he looks at you and says his good ole line
"Beasts all over the shop, soon 'nough you'll be one of em too"
But there isnt an ounce of joy from the idea of killing a 'beast' or even a future beast
And he was killing beasts by the stairs,
At the speed gascoigne charges at you-
No beast would manage to get that far to him witnout being mowed down by the skilled hunter-
Id say he's mad with greivence and blood drunk, it was losing his wife that broke him
The music box doesnt remind him of him killing her, it reminds him of what he lost- and all the moments he wont be able to experience again-
Problem is that he apologies when he dies. He doesn't apologize to hunter since he's already insane it would make sense he apologies for killing his wife otherwise what else?
Maybe he could be apologizing for not being able to protect his wife?
What's with the "-" after every other sentence. Is that you being cut off? Replacement for a period?
Thought game had no story-----suddenly it has some of the best stories ever
That's because they did their best to hide it from the players.
The story that needs weeks of research to understand haha
IGN would be like no story but cool boood 6/10
@@jjcoola998 "game is too hard 5/10 a little something for everyone" and then proceeds to slap a big 9,5/10 on new "revolutionary" call of duty
lore doesn't equate to narrative storyline lol this game still has no real story, just a lot of lore
i dont think he killed his wife. i mean, when you find gascoigne he's slicing up someone. not only that, but he talks and acts normal, some thing no one who's become a beast displays the ability to do. i think its more likely she was killed in front of him, and this caused him to lose himself
that's actually a good explenation
Joseph Payne I think that's more likely as well!
Joseph Payne when i played the music box he lost himself to the music because the moment he owned it he never tried to ever let it go.
Joseph Payne nah, gascoigne killed her. Hence when you play the music box he is clearly in pain from the guilt & shame of killing the woman he loved.
ChiefPredz Maybe, when you play the music box, he remembers her death, and that he did nothing to save her, and that's why he goes mad...
The moral of the story is stop socializing, you casual.
Socializing is for normies. And NORMIES make me reee.
***** Considering he makes a living off things like this....I'd say he's a bit more hardcore than people who quote unquote: "Just go through the game to PVP". ;)
***** *casul
Fixed it
***** A hunter only hunts beasts.
"Why is it that whenever i try to have fun, its wrong?!" -Squidward
Is it weird his story almost made me cry?
Nope, it isn't wierd ;(
FEELSSADMAN yeah seriously this story gripped me...
Considering this series used to have a title that was a spin on the marketing tagline for Dark Souls "Prepare to Die/Cry"; no, it means you feel empathy.
ARTORIAS WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?
My heart just broke for that family. Good thing I saw this or I would have ruined the kids life along with Henrique
I'd like to believe that Henrik is the father of Viola, so the actual grandfather of the girls. He is standing quite close to building where Viola lies on top off, maybe he found his dead daughter in addition to learn that his partner and son-in-law was also taken care of. That might also explain how Gascoigne met Viola, as the daughter of his work partner. Not sure if this is true, but it sounds like a nice concept in my mind.
That makes sense. I mean, literally who else could the girl be referring to as 'grampa'? And while it's possible that she just calls him that because he's old, at face value it's more likely that he was her actual grandfather.
A very nice concept, indeed!
Behemothokun Henrik had a tragically long life, for there is nothing worse than out living your own child.
Ah, pdragon, that makes so much sense now. Tragic, tragic sense.
pdragon619 Or he could have just been a hunter for god knows how long. Having to deal with that for most your old life would start to tear anyone down. Those sayings about Henrik are also implied to have been around before Gascoigne even dies.
Wow, apparently I glossed over a lot of shit in Bloodborne (guess that's what happens when you're just trying to survive). It's crazy how many subtle details are buried in these games that imply surprisingly powerful stories. I had no idea that the daughter of Gascoigne was eaten by the giant pig in the sewer. Most games go out of their way to shove story elements in your face; like great literature and art, the creators behind these games prefer ambiguity and the intriguing art of inference.
Yeah but there's nothing definitive there and things are very rarely even inferred in these games it's just left up to the players imagination
Interesting how Eileen literally pronounces "Gascoigne" like "Gas-con" with a bit of French, and everyone still says "Gascoyng"
I've always pronounced it as "Gascagoin" lmao
I just call him Father G.
“Gabba cologne”
Gas-coin
I just call him daddy
When I gave the older daughter the red ribbon, I walked slowly away, then I heard another dialog from her. Super creepy about how she always wanted that ribbon and giggling. Not sure if anyone else heard it.
Listen for the whispers, the whispers of an old man leading a girl. Grandpa was home protecting her, until he learned about his Daughter's demise. A Woman so important, that her death caused two to go insane.
Henryk wasn’t violas dad not by blood at least
Vaati- "it almost sounds like his last words say 'forgive me.'"
Gascoign - "blaggghhgh-gh"
At the very end of it he subtly says "Forgive me"
Nope, you can actually hear him say "forgive me" although he sounds like an animal instead of a human. Listen closely.
MadDannyWest hahahaha, Yeah. I might have been pushing it a bit far with that statement...
I remember when I started playing this game I wast really into its story or characters. Then I talked to the girl and got the music box and read its description, and then I encounter Gascoigne, and I realized how deep the game’s story really was.
This quest line always puts me to tears, but I didn't even realize that Henryk was also part of the family... geez we really just f*cked this entire family up. I've never hated myself so much for playing one of my favorite games.
The girls voice actress is just incredible!!!
Man, the garbled "forgive me" line is truly heartbreaking (and I hope you also make a video about Gehrman in the future...)
Mario B-box I'm looking forward to the Gehrman episode the most.
VaatiVidya That dialogue where he's asleep and asking to be freed from the dream is one of the best narrated pieces in the game imo
I love that the little girl knows both her parents are missing, but only asks you to find the mom. Begs the question whether she just trusts her dad will make it home, or whether she doesn't want him to come back.
The ending revelation fucked me up. The fact that if you don't talk to the girl maybe the bloodline survives through them. As much as I hated fighting Gascoigne, I feel for him.
jesus i didnt realize how deep Gascoigne's story was, it seemed normal the whole time til the girl died in the tunnel. man that shit hit me hard. had the daughters survived through the night, the whole story could've changed. henryk wouldnt gone insane and he could've been of help or a useful npc. such a shame.
Keaton Chandler BUT THEN THE OLD HUNTERS DROPED AND WE GET TO SUMMON HENRYK ALL'S WELL THAT ENDS WELL AAMMIRIT LADS?
when I gave the older sister the ribbon, as I walked away she said something along the lines of "oh it's so wonderful" and "now I have such a wonderful ribbon" and she sounded almost demented. almost like she was pleased that her sister was dead...
Look at the bottom of the ladder.
+Aramiro What's there?
yugioh guy A surprise.
Personally, I always interpreted it as her being on the brink of losing her mind. When the Red Moon arrives, it causes people to go mad, from what i've noticed in my playthroughs. The older sister was probably already losing her sanity by the time you find her in-game, and giving her a memory of her dead little sister pushed her over the edge. Not only that, but considering when you find her again... well... let's just say the people of From Software are masters at making you feel terrible for trying to do questlines.
+Mike Adkins the blood moon also makes other characters go crazy like you know the sick guy in the window near the first lamp you light in the game? (it's 10pm and i didn't wan the search his name up) He actually turns in to a beast after the blood moon rises.
I remember in my first play through when I was asked if I could find the little girls mother I put it off for later because I wanted to progress through Yharnam first. By the time I was at the cathedral I couldn’t find the Gasogine house, makes me happy that I didn’t inadvertently end an entire bloodline
what a sad story :(
yukaslegion2 you must be new here friend. tis the name of the backstory game in all souls series
skaterdude7277 You are the fucking new here
you my otaku friend made me laugh at loud, anytime im going to call someone new, you better believe theres going to be a misplaced the
skaterdude7277 Nah Yukas has been part of the souls community for a loooooooong time! He's been streaming since demon souls. You should check him out.
Porhaps. Man i cannot stand demon souls. The grinding required to upgrade weapons and the convoluted upgrade system is atrocious.
But since Gascoigne was actively pursued by everyone in Yharnam ("Death to the ministers!"), woudln't be possible that the Yharnamites killed Gascoigne's wife ? She was looking for him, and they were looking for him as well... Surely, there has to be an encounter of some kind... This would explain why Gascoigne has gone mad, and why he's butchering Yharnamites when we first encounter him. Does this sound probable to you guys ?
(sorry for the bad english, I'm french)
I'm not racist, but I believe that theory is much more likely than Gascoigne killing his wife. I've always found it weird to assume that. I like to think that the yarnhamites were the ones tha killed his wife, which made Gascoigne go mad and kill them all.
Thing is, they are very specific about how Viola left behind the only thing that could calm Gascoigne. I feel like they added that element to it to make it clear that she was killed by him.
Shroom Mush Yeah, that part is a really big hint that he's probably the one that did the killin'. It would also explain much better why hearing the music box makes him stagger, instead of remember he's got a daughter (or two) he needs to protect or thinking you are his wife and smooching you. He's more likely wracked with guilt, than remembering some other doods killed his wife.
Sir Gus the Mighty That is by far the most racist theory I have ever heard. The yarnhamites were clearly expressing rage at the socio-political cesspool the Healing Church had forced them into, and that violently manifesting said rage was the only outlet left to them. Those ministers need to put their axes down and stop being so kill happy! #bloodlivesmatter! Bigot...
CthonicSoulChicken You're gross.
It's sick the amount of smalls details you can pick from the game. I really did not understand 5% of the game without these videos... Thanks a lot mate. Bloodborne is a piece of art.
I was relieved in the end that you can save the little girl by taking different path
She ends up dead regardless though
What's that smell? The sweet blood... Oh, it sings to me!
Viper Joe It´s enough to make a man sick.
Beasts all over the shop.
You'll be one of them sooner or later...
"Wondrous howling"
Stephen Weir Tell her to pack some Molotovs or throwing knives for the fight after Gascoigne transforms. It only takes 2 molotovs to take him out I think, and the first one is easy since you can toss it as he's transforming. You can also ring the music box twice to get some cheap hits on him in the first part of the phase, and after he transforms you can play the music box once to get an easy backstab & finish him off with throwing knives as he gets up.
Stephen Weir He's still an NPC actually. you can summon him to help you in a couple different spots.
This could have all been solved if FROM actually allowed us to escort the girl, but nooooo.
FastFlyerJr No mercy for escort missions.
FastFlyerJr yeah I was kind of pissed at that, no way would I let a little girl try to make it through that hellhole of a city alone.
FastFlyerJr I'd buy that DLC.
That would be sweet, but only if you had 1 chance to do it. Screw up and you'll have to wait till NG+
zeuanimals just wait for the Scholar of the first sin version, with all the content plus DLC's at the exact same fucking price of normal version.
I really, really love the efforts that goes into this Vaati. That was interesting from start to finish.
***** Thank you, that's very heartening to hear.
FuNfAcT!: Bloodborne was the First "Souls" Game with German Voiceacting!
Also spanish
Also Italian
Because it's a PS exclusive i guess
Also portuguese
Hat bei mir eine gute halbe Stunde gedauert bis ich gemerkt habe.... Warte... DIE SPRECHEN DEUTSCH!!!
Und sogar ziemlich schöne Synchro. Mir gefällt's super gut!
I never noticed the Yharnamites call you the minister when you're wearing Gascoigne's clothes, really changes my perspective to know that he was actively pursued by everyone in Yharnam.
teddadore well, to be fair, those are the beast men. They actively pursue all hunters. But yeah, it does add some layers.
teddadore I believe it's any church set that makes them call you that.
Flamburger Yes.
This story made me cry like a little bitch
Little bitch town
Population : 2 and counting
+Hiddenforever69 Make that 3 and counting!
...4
Man y'all some bitches
Plus 5 it hit me hard...
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That was beautiful. Not what happened to them, but how you made the video >.>
Right?! Incredible camera shots and video clips......not of...them..getting rekt though. :P
Father Gascoigne's story is one of the saddest I've heard, and since it takes place so near the start of the game, I think it's a fantastic tone-setter for the rest of the story: dark, gloomy, and with very few happy moments.
The thing is...If you never talk to the girl at all, They both die anyway. After killing rom, I remembered this little girl. I went back to her window, Only to find it burst open...The girls were surely dead, All I did was give them a little more time to be so.
I think your talking about the guy right by the central lamp. The one that gives advice.
GODDAMN IT
Are you positive it wasn’t Gilbert
Yesh but they can die even if thats doesnt happen. All npcs i think will die if they are not at the oedeon chapel once the red moon becomes visible after we kill rom the vacous spider.
@@parthtyagi2086 Honestly, in this world with all the monsters, otherworldly creatures and many other things to drive one mad... Maybe death isn't so terrible.
The night has a thousand eyes,
And the day but one;
Yet the light of the bright world dies
With the dying sun
The mind has a thousand eyes,
And the heart but one:
Yet the light of a whole life dies
When love is done
+Loaf Bloke the first part sounds like a dark souls reference
CrispTugBoat48 ;)
Where's that poem from?
It's a poem by Francis William Bourdillon
Loaf Bloke it's a great poem
so why couldnt we escort there...
i would fck everything up in our way
@@nonamee899 same man i would gladly protected her
because plot
Xigbar Master Of Masters the point of the game’s main and side quests is that, even when we do what should be best for everyone, we still fuck it up and twist the world more. for example, the most galant choice to make out of the three endings is to kill gehrman and the moon presence to end the cycles of the hunt for you and all other hunters who aren’t yet blood drunk, but doing so just creates a new entity to sustain the cycle: You.
Well to be fair i always thougth going dear would make thinks worst becase she would see the corpses of her parents
i have listened to these multiple times as a podcast on long drives, but now i have sat and watched, your editing and choice of costume to sell the scene is phenomenal.
Got this game 2 weeks ago and is slowly becoming one of my favorites games ever, truly a masterpiece.
Though there are some great characters in Bloodborne - Gascoigne, Gehrman, Annalise, and so on - I feel like the NPCs that had quest lines associated with them were disappointing. Maybe even more so than Benhart and Lucatiel.
Granted, the progression was better than 'kill 3 bosses with help' but...I just felt like even though they had stand-out moments (Eileen's fights, and Alfred's victory speech)...I just...didn't really give much of a shit when they were over. Compared to Siegmeyer, Solaire (bad ending), and even Ostrava, I felt a bit let down on the NPC quest front.
I agree somewhat, although I genuinely loved Elieen's quest. Just her being constantly one upped by you as you help her, and her evetual progression to realizing her abilities have gotten so much inferior ober the years was genuinely compelling. And I loved how it played out. Beating Henryk, defeating the mad Cainhurst knight. It felt like a progressive and climactic moment that was continuously built up and given a fitting catharsis. I won't hesitate to say that Eileen is one of my favorite characters in the souls series. I also enjoyed Alfred's, but I understand why some dislike his ambiguity filled ending, despite me loving that aspect.
PoliteTimesplitter I actually have to disagree with Alfred's questline ending. Seeing him go crazy was an amazing shock factor that fitted into the game. Eileen's is pretty bad, even though the fights are cool. However, I wouldn't say they're as bad as Benhart, who just seemed to talk about his sword the entire time. Literally all he ever says is "Didn't expect to see you here", and "...no better place to test my sword". He also seems to always talk about owing a debt to you, when all you ever did was summon him and clear the pathway. Eileen on the other hand actually runs down to help you when she finds out you didn't follow her warning.
That being said, Lucatiel and her dumb AI had a pretty good story to it. She's completely unaware of the curse that's happening to her and even gives you the temporary cure that could've saved her without knowing what it does. With stories about her brother and the line, "My name is Lucatiel. I beg of you, remember my name. For I may not myself", is one of the best lines in Dark Souls 2.
PoliteTimesplitter ostrava's was great. the npcs here were abit too brief.
*****
Personally I think some of the briefness to some of them added a lot more. Mostly in Alfred's case.
PoliteTimesplitter I disagree. At least there was story behind Bloodborne's characters. Lucatiel's story was all right but Benhart's was awful, and the rest of the NPC's in Dks2 were pretty awful as well, particularly when the Blacksmith's daughter returns home and they don't even speak to each other.
Funny thing about From Software games, is that when you learn about certain bosses stories, you feel sympathy, or pity for them. Then you might hesitate to kill him.
Davyen and then they stomp your face in and you suddenly remember why they need to die and why you hate them :P
Rhys Awik Amen to that, fellow hunter.
Davyen All excpet for Pinwheel...because breathing in his general direction kills him so quickly that you don't even have time to feel sympathy. Leeroy going apeshit on him doesn't help either XD.
Yep, MK9 honest trailer.
The worst of them all is Sif, especially if you do the Artorias of the Abyss DLC before fighting him and he recognizes you :(
"My, my.. your a fellow hunter aren't you? Good to see another hunter around.. Do you still have the dreams about you? I see.. I stopped dreaming long ago.. Oh before we part, say hello to that doll for me.. been ages since ive seen that las.. Thank you, and have a good hunt my friend."
Good god, you should voice a character in one of these games! Your voice is damn near perfect for it.
Oh my God, Gascoine, Henryk, the daughters. I,m so so sorry.
Please can we have more blood borne prepare to cry vaati
Well, after watching this I'll never speak to Gascoine's daughters again. ;-;
Cure4Living What are you talking about? Everyone lives if you don't finish their stories in Dark Souls 1, and you can even save Soltiere. This is the first time all the NPCs are actually fucked no matter what you do.
The Paul I mean, Djura is gonna be up on his tower for a long while when I don't cheese him of the ledge.
THE GIRL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LADDER ISNT THE YOUNGER GIRLS SISTER. The girl who comes in the house after Father G’s daughter gets tragically eaten by the pig was a girl who lived at the bottom of the ladder where the troll is. She would’ve seen the girl leave to take route to the chapel. After seeing the girl leave she broke in to steal the girls ribbon. There’s a rare dialogue the older girl will play while in Father G’s house the dialogue is as follows “what a perfect ribbon. And now it’s mine. I can’t wait to try it on.”
if you give her that bloodie ribbon....she will giggle for how it's so beatiful after you climb down the ladder.....
everybody gone mad in this damn game
I always took tragically long life to mean Gacoigne's. I took it to mean Heinrik wouldn't hunt Gascoigne after he had started to turn because of their friendship.
Made more sense to me.
I bought this game maybe 3 days ago and i was like what am i supposed to do? I bashed this game about having no story but now i am crying ...
+UC23 King Conor Devotee Hey, you're an overly emotional guy, but that's not always a bad thing. Just don't judge a book by the cov-- I mean, the various trolls you see online who find the mythical (and mostly untrue) difficulty too daunting, and therefore have to find ways to justify their hatred of themselves and the game to compensate their ePeen length.
The game has "no story" for those with no attention span, poor reading comprehension, little analytical skills, no imagination, or a combination thereof!
zombievac I'm on NG+3 right now and i agree with you about that trolls.The bosses aren't that hard except maybe Gehrman and Logarius.Anyways bloodborne is one of the best games i've ever played...
UC23 Prince McGregor Devotee Logarius is hard but he's not as hard as the living failures.... It makes me embarrassed to say this
I never really encountered Gasgoine’s daughters in their houses so it’s safe to say that they survived. Hell even Eileen died to Henryk in my play through.
This is one of the heaviest moments I've had in gaming after I learned what happened to the daughter.
Wow so much backstory for one boss good job From Software
+Humberto Del Rio that pigs not even a boss which is why this game is awesome
+Reflex Corruptzzz I think he meant Father Gascoigne
some kind of name the pig didn't really get any lore either so I'm not sure what he's on about
the reason the older sister says the creepy stuff is because she is being intoxicated by the blood on the ribbon.she is becoming a beast herself
“A corpse should be left well alone,” -Lady Maria
You know I have a theory:
The little girl NEVER had an older sister.
Think about it
She says "I love mom,dad and grandad."
And never once mentioned the supposed "older sister" in any conversations.
It could be that the older girl is a thief or something that would go to lone houses to get some goods as the residence would be out hunting. That could be one reason why she goes "mad" but was actually envious of the little girl for her white ribbon or something
Ya know??
***** possible, however it's also possible that she wasn't on good terms with her older sister (with her most likely being envious of her all the time etc, which also explains the ribbon). you can have a family member and not love them ya know XD.
Then why would she commit suicide?
Who says it's sucide?
There is a rock carrying troll at the end of that ladder
By the looks of it he must have smashed her body down to the ground
LoDsuper yeah but at times like these when you are LITERALLY in hell And your parents are gone. I'd like to hold my older sibling close
No matter what.
Plus she is a little girl she must have mentioned the older sister at least
That's what I found strange
***** True, even if you not in a good mood with sibling, you always mention him when you're alone, sad, and scared.
Vaati linked this for me. He linked this for me! I AM AWAITED AT THE GATES OF VALHALLA!
Nice reference ;)
Pascy YOU WILL RIDE ETERNAL, SHINY AND CHRO... BLOODY AND BORNE!
Pascy Oh what a reference.....WHAT A LOVELY REFERENCE!!!
Pascy He will carry you to the gates of Old Yarnham himself. And you shall hunt eternal bloody and mad.
I think its pretty much the standard now to reference Fury Road in relation to anything slightly "nerdy". Got to do my part!
MY GOD WAS THAT FILM GOOD.
'Whuzzatsmellllll?!?!'
Devin Mcclanahan It's Blooood
William Garcia Palebloooooood
Izzzit?! Oh wait,it's a snickers bar
*unwraps
No wait
Izzblood.
It sings to me... Reminds me of my daughter that pig didn't eat..
IT'S BLÜD!
I’ve played BB for yeeeeeeears, but never knew the story. I recently got my PS4 fixed just to play this again. I’m now getting into the story and binge watching your videos. Material is wonderful. Thank you!!!!