That's how all of dorn's fights go Alpharius : hey dorn lets talk Dorn : sorry i cant hear you over storms teeth Fulgrim: long monologue trying to play on Dorn's humanity Dorn: no Perturabo: UGHHH I am the superior strategist Dorn: no Khorne: Who is the blood for? Dorn: Recites the entire history of military ethics
This talk between them reminds you of how low Fulgrim has fallen, that One that once was so proud of perfecting everything, got tricked in believing that because he made a gap in the wall, this couldnt be filled with then bodies of his own men as replacement.
@@Kyokujunk Not only that, he genuinely cared about his brothers. One of my favorite Primarch moments is after Dorn has to apologize to the Lion after losing an honor duel, and Fulgrim sincerely tries to cheer him up. He's like "hey man you can't win them all."
@@lykos2738this is why I choose to believe that fulg’s soul was destroyed the moment he picked up that sword and everything that he did after that was the demon’s doing
I feel like Fulgrim actually wants Dorn to try and convince him, and that's why he keeps asking it, but the demon possessing him is turning his pleas into mockery.
GW most do something with the Clone of Fulgrim, they might craft something, a storyline involving the Clone of Fulgrim, Current Emperor Children in 40k and of course Trazyn/Necron's.
Unfortunetly said deamon was later ejected from the body by Fulgrim, who then got even more evil. I think he wanted to grandstand and monlouge, to hear his brother beg him to return and to enjoy the pain inflicted when he refused. Its eating him alive that dorn is NOT playing. Hes just going to silently beat him to death then move on to other, more important things.
@ShadowFri3nd saddly it's highly unlikely the author who made clonegrum left GW on bad terms and it's considered one of the most rude and disrespectful thing to take another authors character and give them a major arc without their approval and thats not gonna happen. So saddly clonegrum is stuck in that vault for the rest of time
I for one, see the current Fulgrim after assention as 100% him. i like the idea he regrets his choices. But, the mix of slanneshi corruption and his own pride makes him refuse it every step of the way, which only fuels slanneh's ideals of pain and pleasure. It would explain the constent attempts to clone and convince Ferrus to join him. It would also expain more why rylanor's will to defy him cause him to skulk away for so long.
@@roundrockb I mean, he's got insane regeneration AND ran away during it. Without regen, Rogal probably banishes him unless Fulgrim goes full snek boi to kill/rout the Patron Saint of Home Depot.
Despite the memes here portraying Dorn as the gigachad of few words, I'd say that he's actually the better arguer of the two. Fulgrim does nothing but sling childish insults and whine about nothing, while rogal seems to actually put his thoughts into words. He brought forth valid points in a concise, well articulated, and mature way
What I find interesting is that Fulgrim takes Rogal's words at face value. The dude is so damn honest and refusing to mince words that even his traitorous brothers take him at his word when he says he's won of all things.
@@collindouglas8188 I think he is a great villain because he went from being "striving for perfection but arrogant" to so demonically cruel and twisted that there hasn't been company support for his legion hardly at all til now
F: "Are you really not going to try to convince me to come back into the fold?" D: "You have been talking for like 7 minutes, occasionally interupting yourself bc you are suprised that im not interrupting you, about how you dont want to come back into the fold, what exactly are you expecting me to say?"
Actually, the pauses are from Rogal just beating Fulgrim. This dialogue is taken from a book where the two fight and this exchange happens during that fight.
I like that Abadon is considered a person who might have misled Fulgrim. He's as important for that as Peter turbo and Horus. As far as using the Emperors children.
"i see your host, foolishly committed in its entirety pouring into a run of wall that can be held with a force a tenth that size. And is held by a force a tenth that size." Is maybe the best "you barely lost, but lost none the less" I've ever heard
I get that this is a moment to hype Rogal up. It just annoys me that Fulgrim is always depicted so poorly. The writers never seemed to have written him well and it just compounds over and over again.
Still amazes me that people try to say Dorn didn’t really do anything here because “Fulgrim wasn’t really trying” yet you see multiple times, him fighting hard to kill Dorn, and you see how shocked he is that the plans failed, and even in the end when he says he cannot die, he says he still feels pain and doesn’t want to take any more of it. Fulgrim was absolutely trying to Kill Dorn, and was absolutely committed to fighting, hence going on with the plan, and committing his entire legion to be slaughtered.
In the scene the dialogue is from Fulgrim's sentences are getting cut off by Dorn beating the shit out of him, while Fulgrim's too preoccupied with trying to goad him. Unfortunately for Fulgrim, Dorn's superpower is autism hyperfocus.
Took me a bit of work to find, but at least one portion of the music is this track: th-cam.com/video/piRBMOxum3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=58vu3UwvuNzbltkb (I believe 2 tracks are used in the clip, I'm not yet certain about what the other one is)
Took me a bit of work to find, but at least one portion of the music is this track: th-cam.com/video/piRBMOxum3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=58vu3UwvuNzbltkb (I believe 2 tracks are used in the clip, I'm not yet certain about what the other one is)
Fulgrim is the exact same as the people who got all the love and attention from their parents and everything while they burn the world because its not enough. Rogal is for those people who were starved of love, attention and fill the void with being the best. Working on themselve until they bleed.
@@marin8141 oh, it's a one on one fight? i thought they were talking over the radio or something. then how is dorn able to maintain such a fluid conversation?
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447i believe its because unlike dorn, Fulgrim likes to stop and gloat and converse He gets bored easily And insulted easily And when Dorn starts talking sh*t fulgrim stands there dumbfounded trying to prove a point Dorn on the other hand just wants fulgrim dead and move on So when fulgrim was taunting him he just said the equivalent of "cool story b*tch boy"
I swear I don’t know who bores me more Guilliman or Dorn just a bunch of Boy Scouts with no emotion just listening to there dad cause daddy says so lol 😂
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 Yet you have to admit, the Emperor is one of the biggest hypocrites out there. A terrible father, with a terrible outlook towards faith and religion. Dont get me wrong, Chaos is even worse, with gods that dont give a damn about their mortal followers. Id serve the Imperium, but solely for Humanity, not for him. NEVER for him. Especially since Monarchia. The 17th Legion, my favourite, was unrightfully humiliated.
Fulgrim: *monologuing*
Dorn: "No"
That's how all of dorn's fights go
Alpharius : hey dorn lets talk
Dorn : sorry i cant hear you over storms teeth
Fulgrim: long monologue trying to play on Dorn's humanity
Dorn: no
Perturabo: UGHHH I am the superior strategist
Dorn: no
Khorne: Who is the blood for?
Dorn: Recites the entire history of military ethics
@@bronsinxckhorne : I AM THE GOD OF BLOOD , THE GOD OF SLAUGHTER I-
Dorn: section 13 , article 1 on military ethics
The stone man
Read it in tts lmao
@@fransfrumen3603 I mean, that's the only proper way to read it.
Also, screw GW for killing off fan projects!
This talk between them reminds you of how low Fulgrim has fallen, that One that once was so proud of perfecting everything, got tricked in believing that because he made a gap in the wall, this couldnt be filled with then bodies of his own men as replacement.
He was also one of the most compassionate originally. He would take the time to save civilians and treat them well when it wasn't necessary.
@@Kyokujunk Not only that, he genuinely cared about his brothers. One of my favorite Primarch moments is after Dorn has to apologize to the Lion after losing an honor duel, and Fulgrim sincerely tries to cheer him up. He's like "hey man you can't win them all."
@@lykos2738this is why I choose to believe that fulg’s soul was destroyed the moment he picked up that sword and everything that he did after that was the demon’s doing
@@mitab1 His soul wasn't destroyed but everything he did was the demon's doing.
@@mitab1 His soul was just powerlessly along for the ride
“You are just an idiot standing on a wall”
Rogal did not need his weapons, man shredded Fulgrim with his words
Dorn's Primarch power: Immunity to monologuing
Unless its Perturabo.. then it gets personal.
*fulgrim turning into an eldritch horror* : are you scared yet
our autistic boi : bigger target easier to hit, good
the autism is stronger than the hellish
I feel like Fulgrim actually wants Dorn to try and convince him, and that's why he keeps asking it, but the demon possessing him is turning his pleas into mockery.
GW most do something with the Clone of Fulgrim, they might craft something, a storyline involving the Clone of Fulgrim, Current Emperor Children in 40k and of course Trazyn/Necron's.
Fulgrim is a full demon prince at this point so I doubt it.
Unfortunetly said deamon was later ejected from the body by Fulgrim, who then got even more evil.
I think he wanted to grandstand and monlouge, to hear his brother beg him to return and to enjoy the pain inflicted when he refused.
Its eating him alive that dorn is NOT playing. Hes just going to silently beat him to death then move on to other, more important things.
@ShadowFri3nd saddly it's highly unlikely the author who made clonegrum left GW on bad terms and it's considered one of the most rude and disrespectful thing to take another authors character and give them a major arc without their approval and thats not gonna happen. So saddly clonegrum is stuck in that vault for the rest of time
I for one, see the current Fulgrim after assention as 100% him. i like the idea he regrets his choices. But, the mix of slanneshi corruption and his own pride makes him refuse it every step of the way, which only fuels slanneh's ideals of pain and pleasure. It would explain the constent attempts to clone and convince Ferrus to join him. It would also expain more why rylanor's will to defy him cause him to skulk away for so long.
Fulgrim debased himself by using a weak-ass insult like "Rogal Dolt".
Could have called him Dork
Fulgrim is 13 at heart
There's your Imperial Fists fan club.... The Rogal Dorks.
@@rezaganjizadeh4263😂😂
REGULAR DOOR
Your Rogal Dorn sounds like masterchief. Surprisingly fitting honestly lol
Sir. Drinkee slurpee.
"try me" proceeds to turn into snek boi just to run away because he's pissed and let his legion try to kill Dorn. Failed again.
To be fair, he was the only demon Primarch who was not banished at The siege of Terra.
@@roundrockb
I mean, he's got insane regeneration AND ran away during it. Without regen, Rogal probably banishes him unless Fulgrim goes full snek boi to kill/rout the Patron Saint of Home Depot.
"I know Fulgrim, I know everything."
Rogal Dorn, the Preatorian of Terra
Rogal speaks plainly, but damn his words can cut deep as the warp. He's like a walking, talking stoic inspirational quote engine.
The more I heard Rogal Dorn, the more I like him.
Hes always been my fav lol
Listen to SuperAnchors as Rogal Dorn
NO - Rogal Dorn
Despite the memes here portraying Dorn as the gigachad of few words, I'd say that he's actually the better arguer of the two. Fulgrim does nothing but sling childish insults and whine about nothing, while rogal seems to actually put his thoughts into words. He brought forth valid points in a concise, well articulated, and mature way
What could be more gigachad than a concise yet thorough argument?
Beats his ass with his sword AND his words. Dorn is unfathomable levels of chad.
That's to be expected when you're not the one juiced up on slaanesh flavored chaos
Rogul has that Batman vibe and Fulgrim has that Joker vibe lol
Imperial fist forever ✊
best primarch Dorn
best legion Iron Warriors
I love how little Rogal Dorn cares about Fulgrims whinging and tantrum
Damn that was all you Rufus? thats pretty good man.
What I find interesting is that Fulgrim takes Rogal's words at face value. The dude is so damn honest and refusing to mince words that even his traitorous brothers take him at his word when he says he's won of all things.
Royal does speak plainly I doubt he's ever lied
Rogal Dorn - Master Chief of Warhammer 40k
"I was something beyond furious" 🗿
And he was.
3:36 "IM NOT LOCKED IN HERE WITH YOU! YOU"RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!"
*said Dorn calmly*
The 40k (well 30k) equivelent of I'm not trapped in here with you.
"No." -Rogal
And yet when Khorne tried to conquer him he could not stop talking, a brilliant tactician.
I refuse to apologize for loving Fulgrim as a villain and commiting my CSM models to Emperor's Children color scheme. HAIL THE PHOENICIAN!
What do you like about him? I'm struggling to find reasons to like him.
@@collindouglas8188 I think he is a great villain because he went from being "striving for perfection but arrogant" to so demonically cruel and twisted that there hasn't been company support for his legion hardly at all til now
I love the voice for Fulgrim in this a lot more than in the official audio books
Rogal Dorn just got cooler and more impressive as the Heresy went on.
Such an awsome perfomance!
Holy shit, these are so good.
stunningly good performance.
Reminds me of the first big fight in One Punch Man the villain monolgues and Saitama is just like ok….
Damn Dorn being this cold and calculated))). Hehe))
By the Golden THRONE Rogal Dorn is the best primarch. 👌👍💯😩😩😩😩
I get Abridged Frieza vibes from fulgrim, also the sound of the voice makes it feel that way too
"Rogal Dolt!"
Perturabo is punching the air right now for not using this one
@@Byrdman5 And by puching the air you mean killing another ten of his sons
F: "Are you really not going to try to convince me to come back into the fold?"
D: "You have been talking for like 7 minutes, occasionally interupting yourself bc you are suprised that im not interrupting you, about how you dont want to come back into the fold, what exactly are you expecting me to say?"
Actually, the pauses are from Rogal just beating Fulgrim. This dialogue is taken from a book where the two fight and this exchange happens during that fight.
@@BossStar1995 That's why I wish it had in parenthesis "Rogal smacks Fulgrim like a bitch" in those interruptions.
then Dorn proceeded to beat him like a ginger stepchild
God I love Rogal so much
Fulgrim: yap yap yap uhhhhh Rogal DOLT!!
The Dorn: You are terrible at seiges 🗿
Fulgrim: yapping 😜
Rogal: I’m gonna kill you now 🗿
I'm not locked in here with you, youre locked in here with me
Dorns VA in this clip sounds like Kevin Conroy
I like that Abadon is considered a person who might have misled Fulgrim. He's as important for that as Peter turbo and Horus. As far as using the Emperors children.
Ol peter turbo
4:08 I was hoping for Lupercal...Why are you here?
these are the definitive voices for these characters for me, to the point it has somewhat spoiled any other readings for me lol
Anyone think it's crazy that. With Violin and knowing Fulgrim, I think Antony Starr would make a great believable Fulgrim.
Dear god, now this is in my head.
Briarios would be so proud
"i see your host, foolishly committed in its entirety pouring into a run of wall that can be held with a force a tenth that size. And is held by a force a tenth that size." Is maybe the best "you barely lost, but lost none the less" I've ever heard
This is litterally gigachad and soyjack meme
wow, first time i see a video with so many views (65k) and no dislikes.
Best voice over
I get that this is a moment to hype Rogal up. It just annoys me that Fulgrim is always depicted so poorly. The writers never seemed to have written him well and it just compounds over and over again.
I agree
TBF Fulgrim has been taken over by a daemon
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 but then he got the demon out but then also decided to be evil, so he’s himself now
Yeah, he become the punching bag of the primarch, the idiot you feel good by kicking while he kill two primarch
@@raro344 Meanwhile a "good" clone of Fulgrim is locked away on Solemnace as a part of Trazyn's ever growing carefully curated collection.
If Dorn wasn’t flesh and bones, he’d make a fine Necron.
4:27 You looked better in mutton chops.
Legend. Cheers for that.
I can picture Marilyn Manson playing and reading as Fulgrim.
Still amazes me that people try to say Dorn didn’t really do anything here because “Fulgrim wasn’t really trying” yet you see multiple times, him fighting hard to kill Dorn, and you see how shocked he is that the plans failed, and even in the end when he says he cannot die, he says he still feels pain and doesn’t want to take any more of it. Fulgrim was absolutely trying to Kill Dorn, and was absolutely committed to fighting, hence going on with the plan, and committing his entire legion to be slaughtered.
Kinda and not kinda? he is no comiting as loyalist would, Fulgrim is actually a VERY fine strategy but being so much in warp drug fuck him around.
Rogal dorn: Nah id win.
Dorn is real Yes Chad from meme.
Fulgrim was partially right in the end. A part of Dorn did die upon the Vengeful Spirit after this battle.
Rogal's sounds like the voice actor for Raiden from MK Deadly Alliance. Very similar.
Whats the specific song used in this one? its amazing.
The intelligent talk more, the wise talk less.
what is the song
What's with Fulgrims abruptly stopping his sentences midway? Is he doing that on purpose or why would he do that?
In the scene the dialogue is from Fulgrim's sentences are getting cut off by Dorn beating the shit out of him, while Fulgrim's too preoccupied with trying to goad him. Unfortunately for Fulgrim, Dorn's superpower is autism hyperfocus.
I love how petulant and deceitful Fulgrim sounds. It contrasts perfectly with Rogal's stern, controlled demeanor.
Can someone tell me whats the music? Freaking love it how it elevates the dialogue
Took me a bit of work to find, but at least one portion of the music is this track: th-cam.com/video/piRBMOxum3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=58vu3UwvuNzbltkb (I believe 2 tracks are used in the clip, I'm not yet certain about what the other one is)
@@DCabbagefarm Damn man, thanks.
😊😊,😊,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
What's the song? I saw who made it in description, but not the specific title
Took me a bit of work to find, but at least one portion of the music is this track: th-cam.com/video/piRBMOxum3o/w-d-xo.htmlsi=58vu3UwvuNzbltkb (I believe 2 tracks are used in the clip, I'm not yet certain about what the other one is)
Doesn't want to take more pain? Wouldn't EXCESS of pain be pleasing to Slaanesh?
Fulgrim is the exact same as the people who got all the love and attention from their parents and everything while they burn the world because its not enough. Rogal is for those people who were starved of love, attention and fill the void with being the best. Working on themselve until they bleed.
Rogal Dolt?
Fulgrim disses like Drake.
Spoiler: None of them die.
🤓 "nuh uh" this the character yall glaze???
why do fulgrim's sentences keep cutting off in the middle?
Its a fight scene
So he stutters when he has to focus on blocking dorns attacks.
@@marin8141 oh, it's a one on one fight? i thought they were talking over the radio or something.
then how is dorn able to maintain such a fluid conversation?
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447i believe its because unlike dorn, Fulgrim likes to stop and gloat and converse
He gets bored easily
And insulted easily
And when Dorn starts talking sh*t fulgrim stands there dumbfounded trying to prove a point
Dorn on the other hand just wants fulgrim dead and move on
So when fulgrim was taunting him he just said the equivalent of "cool story b*tch boy"
American accents just don’t work for me on Primarchs
Fulgrim is still so boring, no matter what happens he will always be boring and lame
I really like him I just think he hasn’t been handlers by writers the best or most consistently
Jocko Willink vs Beta Rapist
I swear I don’t know who bores me more Guilliman or Dorn just a bunch of Boy Scouts with no emotion just listening to there dad cause daddy says so lol 😂
And Fulgrim is a whining Chaos simp
Truly a weak, smooth-brained take 😂
@@ChaplainJoshualike I said listening to daddy cause daddy said there the fools. Chaos is literally infinite potential
@@warrenweaver6664 Chaos is insanity. If you wanna join the lunatics then good for you.
@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 Yet you have to admit, the Emperor is one of the biggest hypocrites out there. A terrible father, with a terrible outlook towards faith and religion.
Dont get me wrong, Chaos is even worse, with gods that dont give a damn about their mortal followers.
Id serve the Imperium, but solely for Humanity, not for him. NEVER for him. Especially since Monarchia. The 17th Legion, my favourite, was unrightfully humiliated.