Khârn, Angron and Argel Tal from "Betrayer" - A 40k Dramatic Reading

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  • @sovietunion7643
    @sovietunion7643 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +181

    when the voice of reason is the guy who has a literal demon inside him is never a good sign for the sanity of everyone else in the room

  • @secondarytrollaccount666
    @secondarytrollaccount666 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +419

    Argel and kharn are two of my favorite traitor astartes. They actually had depth before erebus and the siege.

    • @bosskaiju4834
      @bosskaiju4834 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Yeah... And then Erebus happened; really F*** that guy

    • @mickholohan4266
      @mickholohan4266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bosskaiju4834 ALL HAIL EREBUS!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @bosskaiju4834
      @bosskaiju4834 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@mickholohan4266 Well, now every Legion who aren't the Word Bearers hate you now

    • @Become-Eggplant
      @Become-Eggplant 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@bosskaiju4834 I'm sure even the Word Bearers hate Erebus.

    • @N0kiz4ru
      @N0kiz4ru 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Breaks my fuckin heart

  • @bluedog843
    @bluedog843 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    The “no… it didn’t.” Was the best rendition of those 3 words I have ever heard in my entire life. Well fucking done. Genuinely.

    • @nidnoms3622
      @nidnoms3622 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      and to think, Kharn was the first successful legionnaire to take the Nails, and also the closest to Angron

    • @afrocrumble8721
      @afrocrumble8721 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Whoever voiced Argel Tal also needs recognition!!
      Although a daemon, he sounded so.... calm and eloquent... just like a proper Word Bearer trained in their libraries would.
      His understanding tone of the line... "It didn't work?"... sent chills down my spine! 3:52

    • @Ilovevidgames123
      @Ilovevidgames123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never thought anything could make me want to give Kharn a hug, but that did

  • @perturabo7825
    @perturabo7825 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    I like how it shows even the other traitor legions mistrust towards lorgar and the word bearers due to just how long they were preparing for the heresy before it happened.

  • @shaftoe195
    @shaftoe195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    This scene is just sad.
    And what follows only gets worse. For everyone.

  • @randomcenturion7264
    @randomcenturion7264 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +282

    Angron: Ha ha, they can't even guard her bones.
    Argel: Like how you couldn't even conquor your world and free your people like literally all your other brothers did?
    Angron:.....
    Kharn: Oh Fuck, here we go again.

    • @secondarytrollaccount666
      @secondarytrollaccount666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Argel did not share his uncles relish.
      Angron fumed at argel stealing the last jar of relish.

    • @matrixtrollmarine
      @matrixtrollmarine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Shots fired..

    • @optimusvine5672
      @optimusvine5672 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

    • @Ariana321
      @Ariana321 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DAMN... 👀

    • @jamesj5612
      @jamesj5612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      good thing Argel Tal isn't a chud redditor so this didn't happen

  • @joseestevezhernandez558
    @joseestevezhernandez558 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +232

    There's people who can touch the buttons of someone.... An there's Angron that tpuches buttons like Mozart played his piano

    • @raro344
      @raro344 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      You can see angron still have empath power, just use in the must dicish way posible.

  • @Mp-ut8tk
    @Mp-ut8tk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    And what is even more sad kharn was half expecting argel tal to make fun of the world eater but instead he got his brother's pity and sadness.

  • @sotiriospeithis6659
    @sotiriospeithis6659 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

    Angron mocking another person for failing to protect someone close to them is...ironic.

    • @PeppernTheCook
      @PeppernTheCook 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      I'r you're talking about what happened on Nuceria, that was not Angron's fault but the Big E teleporting him away before he could die (probably not though since he's a Primarch ) with his friends and family, being the terrible dad that Big E is. He could have chosen to stand with him in battle and he'd have Angron's loyalty and fealty forever. Makes you wonder if Malcador and E planned or at least foresaw the Heresy and choosing to manipulate the Primarchs most likely to fall to Chaos, but least likely to succeed 100%.

    • @enghi8309
      @enghi8309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PeppernTheCook Actually it's more complicated than Big E being an asshole. All the group of Angron was doomed by the nails and Nuceria was ready to surrender to the empire by negociation. If he had intervene it would have ended in a similar situation with an Angron hating Big E and his Empire and a lot of death to conquerer the planete and all of that for the same result. The only things that woudl have satisfied Angron was to die there and that would be a really big wast of ressource. So the Big E made the choice that let him use as much as he can Angron. It's not just being a bad dad it's being a the cold and calculator monster that Big E. It's only mistake like always is to misjudge how fast Angron would become a menace to the Imperium

    • @sqocks8254
      @sqocks8254 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@PeppernTheCook
      What happened on Nuceria was by all means Angron's fault though.
      The irony is that Angron is mocking Argel Tal for failing to protect Cyrene Valantion even though he himself utterly failed to protect anyone he cared about (and even directly lead most of them to their deaths himself) on Nuceria.
      All of this happened *before* the Emperor even knew that Angron was on Nuceria, he wasn't even in the system at that time.
      None of the events that made Angron's mask off moment ironic were effected by the Emperors actions.
      And I don't meant to be rude, but the rest of your speculation and conspiracy theories seems even less... sound.

    • @Ravil322
      @Ravil322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@sqocks8254And how Angron was supposed to conquer his world when his brains were partially replaced and entire planet was in open systemic opposition to him. It's like giving a child a knife and expect him to beat a SWAT team. All these polemics are such a nonsense. If you really need to find an excuse to blame Angron is a butchers nailing his legion and maybe not going after the emperor some time after

    • @sqocks8254
      @sqocks8254 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Ravil322
      I don't mean to be rude, but it almost seems like your comment was meant for an entirely different comment section.
      No one was discussing Angron's chances of conquering Nuceria or how he could have achieved it.
      We were discussing the irony of Angron mocking Argel Tal for failing to protect Cyrene Valantion even though he himself utterly failed to protect anyone he cared about (and even directly lead most of them to their deaths himself) on Nuceria.
      PerErik asserted that what happened to Angron's loved ones on Nuceria was the fault of the Emperor. I pointed out that this is an impossibility by virtue of chronology.
      No one was engaging in polemics or searching for excuses to blame Angron.
      We were merely discussing and rectifying any misconceptions in regards to the turn of events. It's explicitly noted in his Primarch book that Angron dismissed all (sound) tactical advise from other gladiators as he made his moves and that this dismissal may have cost him his uprising. He took up the position of leader and lead all his followers to their end.
      Also; May I suggest you reread your comment and check its grammar/sentence structure before you post it, it's rather difficult to figure what you are to convey. I'm not sure what your were trying to say in the 2nd half of your last sentence.

  • @Greenfield-li3bg
    @Greenfield-li3bg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The way Angron speaks...you know why his brothers weren't fond of him.

  • @Timebandit1
    @Timebandit1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Angron and the World Eaters are the biggest tragedy of the 40k universe and you nailed it here.

  • @samuelevander9823
    @samuelevander9823 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One of the best & most emotional dialoques I've heard from 40k!

  • @jesusnavarrete4779
    @jesusnavarrete4779 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The mental image from hearing the last 6 words🤌🏽 You can see Argel Tal’s understanding and Kharn’s defeat

  • @eotwkdp
    @eotwkdp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    He’s still angry. Angron is a broken man. Honestly leaving him on a world alone without any influence from the imperium would be good for him.
    Alone fighting wild beasts, do you know machines eventually rust. Perhaps through time and many rains. Parts of the nails will fail and flesh will grow and push out the metal. Painfully and would kill any normal man. But Angron he’ll survive and with every bit of metal push out. He will remember far clearly his slave brothers/sisters dreams, and his true mortal father.
    A life beyond the arena

    • @Redguns4life
      @Redguns4life 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its dark-age archeotech, its built to last. The nails would kill him before they waste away.

    • @thetruezonein
      @thetruezonein หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Redguns4lifebut he would die as happy as he can be with the nail in his head

    • @tremendousyeet3467
      @tremendousyeet3467 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Redguns4life That's just pessimistic and is not for certain. even the DAoT had warranty closures.

  • @HazelVandice
    @HazelVandice 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    This is why I dont want GW to ever reveal the Lost Primarchs. Nothing will ever top the damage Angron did to his legion. And he wasnt cast to oblivion

    • @LeónSantiaguino
      @LeónSantiaguino 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I can think of worst ways

  • @Scarletraven87
    @Scarletraven87 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Aight, this is going to be my first 40k Novel.

  • @eotwkdp
    @eotwkdp ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Small moments like this we see the tactical mind of Angron. How he sees how well prepared the word bearers are.
    God I’m amazed even his brain is still functioning. Hmm
    Phantom itching
    Phantom brain ? The parts that were ripped out or crushed technically still existing. Like one guy who had a iron bar in his eye socket

  • @Channel-23s
    @Channel-23s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    There was actually a World eater rebellion/Cvil war right before Kharn got the nails those loyalists knew what would end up happening with the legion yet Kharn was loyal to Anagron thinking that was the smart move (It wasn’t)

  • @phantomwraith1984
    @phantomwraith1984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If it wasnt for the fact that Angron is a Primarch, Argal wouldve likely killed him on the spot.
    The Blessed Lady was one of Argal's closest friends. He cared deeply for her. You do NOT talk shit about her, especially in front of Argal. You could really sense him biting his tongue and trying to restrain himself

  • @LordyT34
    @LordyT34 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The World Eaters, at their deepest core, were just sons trying to please their father.

  • @BeadyAbiter
    @BeadyAbiter 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's that moment, quotes from a book ago "made to bear the butchers nail for a over a dozen centuries" and yet "we let him beat these nails in us tho may feel unity with our father"

  • @Redguns4life
    @Redguns4life 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Ironically, what would have bought Angron's respect, was that his sons refuse the nails. Because then he'd see them as sons instead of hounds.

    • @xzenitramx666
      @xzenitramx666 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wrong, he killed all the ones who refused the nails.

    • @Redguns4life
      @Redguns4life หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@xzenitramx666 Endryd Haar refused the nails and survived up to the Siege of Terra as a loyalist World Eater.

  • @sgtshortstack578
    @sgtshortstack578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    World Eaters are a tragic legion. If only Angron didnt suffer the mutilation at the hands of the high riders, maybe things would be different

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "You're smiling."
    Well, that's terrifying.

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

    It didn’t work?
    No. It didn’t.
    When people get so vehemently butthurt about what Khârn said to Sigismund in Warhawk I cannot help but think that they know nothing of Khârn.
    Up until Khârn the Bloody died sieging the Imperial Palace he knew he was a broken son from a broken father. A failure of ideals bent to slaughter… he knew what he was and that he was to blame for every time he stood by and let them cut themselves apart.
    But he knew where he was broken, how he was broken and why. He was at least self-aware enough to know what he was.
    “Not… as… damaged, as… you.”

    • @Fullgrym
      @Fullgrym 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      "Butthurt"? No, just people seeing Kharn taking monumental amounts of copium. Sigismund proved to be the better fighter by besting Kharn AND the better man by believing and fighting for something greater than himself. Kharn knew/understood both of these and his only answer is practically "no u".

    • @rustkarl
      @rustkarl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@Fullgrym
      Only proving my point that you know nothing of him.
      The narration itself quite clearly says that Khârn sees in Sigismund what the Imperium would become and it horrifies him. He is not malding over having been beaten (I am however because there has yet to be a satisfactory answer as to why Sigismund could suddenly do that when previously he got owned.) he is disgusted by the soulless war machine that Sigismund has become and will spread to humanity.
      You know who else had the same thought? Guilliman. You know, the guy who basically despised everything the World Eaters stood for.
      “Better we had burned in the fires of Horus’ ambition than lived to see this.” the Imperium of 10,000 years later appalls those who built it during the Great Crusade.
      His answer isn’t some childish uno reverse card, it’s a statement that what he’s become isn’t worth it.

    • @Fullgrym
      @Fullgrym 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@rustkarl And what did Guilliman also do? Discuss with his Eldar advisor/ambassador and his other close advisors what it means for something, as in his father, to be a God. And what did Guilliman learned? That there is power in worship - not warp power, but power nonetheless, and that his father certainly covers the most common descriptions of a god. And that all the worship towards Guilliman himself also has an effect - Guilliman was directly asked if he really thinks it's mere coincidence the warpstorms calm when his fleet travels in the warp, or that he's winning battles that should not have been won.
      So, in short, don't nitpick random Guilliman quotes while disregarding the final development of his thoughts.
      About Kharn - yes, his answer IS a childish uno reverse card. Sigismund being a soulless warmachine? You mean a warrior who fights with precision and purpose, instead being a deranged butcher like Kharn himself?

    • @rustkarl
      @rustkarl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Fullgrym
      You make it sound like Khârn had the option to contemplate the fact. He realised it the moment before he died. After that he was Khorne’s.
      And the fact is that the first reaction of practically anyone from the Great Crusade and before on seeing the Imperium is dismay or disgust, and for good reason.
      It is the remains of a broken dream, what would have been a resurgence of humanity’s golden age instead broken and rotted into its most perverted mockery. A defilement of the dream that it rose from.
      That is what Guilliman saw before steeling his resolve to hold the pieces together, acceptance of reality is not the same as approval.
      The grand irony of it all being that much of what kept the Imperium afloat is what is at the heart of its rot, the example that Sigismund and Keeler set kept it alive and turned it into an abomination in equal measure.
      The Imperium is seen as the most terrible regime in human history for a reason, it’s not meant to be admired but pitied and feared for the abhorrent necessities of its survival. In trying to unite humanity it shackled the species to its fate and dragged mankind down with it.
      Also, add one to the ‘you missed the point by idolising them’ squad, Sigismund’s little apotheosis is one of the last nails in the coffin for humanity’s future, not a triumph of warfare. So broken by purpose he can hardly be called human where at least a shred remains in Khârn before his soul goes to the Blood God. And that is what Khârn sees in his last moment as himself.
      Make no mistake, I am not beatifying the Betrayer, or rather who would become the Betrayer. Only in this moment he is terrifyingly correct and it appalls him.

    • @raro344
      @raro344 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@Fullgrym This post is a lot of copium. Gulliman said that whatever the emperor is now is not longer the man he was before and that gods are a blight to the universe.
      And "with precision and purpose"? when that purpose is "no mercy, no retrat, no respite" then yes he become a souless warmachine, Sigsimund have become the kind of fanatical zealot the modern imperium will stand. at warrior would will only war from now on.

  • @sarluther9477
    @sarluther9477 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    amazing work !!!🙌🔥🔥🔥

  • @huntery3568
    @huntery3568 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bravo, beautifully done!
    And a very interesting choice to make Kharn's voice slavic-accented. Of all the characters of the Heresy, I feel like Kharn is the one who has the most range of interpretations; I've seen him depicted as being of a wide variety of races and backgrounds, and oddly, they pretty much all work, which has got to say something good about how he's written.

    • @tremendousyeet3467
      @tremendousyeet3467 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He's Slavic because the World Eaters lead a horrible life of needless anguish caused by their curropt and sadistic leaders, just like Slavs do.

  • @Сергей-ы7р7р
    @Сергей-ы7р7р 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    This is amazing dude! I watched all your content literally in a day, keep up the good work, a new level of immersion in the universe! I really like the way the voices sound and the music is great!

  • @negativezero8174
    @negativezero8174 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cyrene never deserved what happened to her

  • @matrixtrollmarine
    @matrixtrollmarine 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One second i feel sympathy for angron.. and then there is this..

    • @raro344
      @raro344 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Angron dificult to be around

  • @ethanmerrion3040
    @ethanmerrion3040 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Awesome vid but when it become just tal and kharn you should just show them on the screen to not confuse ppl that don’t know. Great vid

    • @RufusJuice
      @RufusJuice  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Appreciate the feedback man. I'm always looking to improve the format of these videos.

  • @jessereed1736
    @jessereed1736 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You do amazing work, keep itn up. Youre very talented as a voice actor.

  • @Tsunamiieh
    @Tsunamiieh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    argel,kharn and sevarus, best traitors.

  • @anhtunguyen781
    @anhtunguyen781 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    incredible work

  • @Rob.N771
    @Rob.N771 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well played Sir!

  • @avernvrey7422
    @avernvrey7422 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Alpharious could turn his primarch "aura" off. So, it is something that can be suppressed or removed.

    • @raro344
      @raro344 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He reverse it by making himself go unoticed. Something the emperor do a lot

  • @Tarik360
    @Tarik360 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need to get this book too

  • @Asmitha90
    @Asmitha90 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone shits on Angron here but to me it looks like Angron is feeling some kind of bond of pain and failure with Argel Tal here he is just masking it by spiting on him... Or maybe hes expressing it in hes own twisted way...

  • @fallenbygravity
    @fallenbygravity ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Overall great! How did you get argel's voice effect?

    • @RufusJuice
      @RufusJuice  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thanks! Argel's effect was achieved through a mix of EQing, doubling the tracks, pitch shifting, reverb + echo and distortion.

  • @matthewstrueby449
    @matthewstrueby449 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Argel tal is a well written character but you can’t tell me he isn’t as much of a piece of shit as the other traitor marines. He just knows how to hide it. Dude literally let a daemon possess him. It was weird for me when he died I was like “fuck Erebus”( cause fuck Erebus) but I was also like “well at least that’s once less douche bag traitor marine.”

  • @chenbeixuan9184
    @chenbeixuan9184 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All right i hate Angron for this moment

  • @spartan7942
    @spartan7942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They ruined Angron, if he would have fell at the Siege as a broken Demi-God 😓. One can dream i suppose.....

  • @sigmus1475
    @sigmus1475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is excellent! The background music really pulls the video togethor!
    Where is it from?

  • @LandonGunter-oq9ch
    @LandonGunter-oq9ch หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does Argel actually wear primaris armor?

  • @bluebowser3347
    @bluebowser3347 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Who is the Creature?

    • @jaketaft7533
      @jaketaft7533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Argel Tal, first Daemonhost, member of the Word Bearers and all around cool guy. I'd go as far as to say probably Kharns best bud.

    • @bluebowser3347
      @bluebowser3347 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jaketaft7533 Thank you. I'm not very informed on the lore. Do you know why he calls him creature rather than Argel Tal? Is it like a disrespect thing?

    • @jaketaft7533
      @jaketaft7533 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@bluebowser3347 Yeah kinda. I don't remember the EXACT reason but Angron is just, overall, a Dick to pretty much everyone. so anything that doesn't look like a World Eater (and even then) gets shit on or murdered.
      He may actually be more of a dick than Perturabo or Curze, but almost justifiably.
      If you need A good jumping off point for the Lore (Space Marine wise) I suggest:
      -The First 3 Horus Heresy Books
      -The Night Lords Trilogy Books
      -Helsreach
      -The Primarch Novellas

  • @danmarusan2878
    @danmarusan2878 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's pretty sad.

  • @aditghifari5039
    @aditghifari5039 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    its sad

  • @gohomehero
    @gohomehero 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Eh" is pronounced "Ayyyyy" or like how "A" sounds even you say the ABCs.
    English language is ridiculous.

    • @devastater97
      @devastater97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah hi Canadian here. He's pronouncing it correctly. There are different types of English, doesn't make it a ridiculous language.

    • @inwit594
      @inwit594 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@devastater97 English is a pretty silly language though. That's not a dig at english: It's wonderful for all it's oddities, but it's very abnormal when you compare it to other languages. It's hard to explain why though.

    • @CaptainPrincess
      @CaptainPrincess 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@inwit594 The reason why is because its a stitched-together mess of other languages and words appropriated and misplaced
      OLD english probably makes more sense, but there arent meany speakers I dont think