Why the US isn't Worried about China's Stealth Fighter
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2024
- The United States has expressed concerns about China’s J-20 Mighty Dragon, which is often compared to the American F-22 Raptor. The J-20 is China’s indigenous stealth fighter, and the US alleges that China may have stolen American technology. The J-20’s stealth capabilities are a point of interest.
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The title: Not worried.
The video: CONCERN CONCERN CONCERN
😂😂
Makes you wonder what the message is, no? Only 29% of US F35's are serviceable, according to a US congressional hearing.
Soon will know which one capability
@stchan7061 : We already know, the J20 doesn't stand a chance against the F-22
@@loucyphers_nightmareyea you replied to the wrong post , is about the video title
When you order a Raptor from temu you get a j20
So you think the Chinese have the capacity to "observe, think, test and act on results ?" Mmmm ? We might be in trouble ? 👉🥴😂
I just found that app a week ago 🤣 i already got 7 pairs of awesome shoes and 4 pairs of soft sandals on the way. 😆 I got addicted to amazon from ebay, and now temu has taken over. I havent checked out shein or ali baba yet. 🤔
That's a pretty good deal lol. Beats the Raptor on money alone lol.
That’s why the j20 would outclass it in a war >_
But they can produce numbers that america cannot. Remember that.
Not so much worried about the US armory, it’s the US leadership that gives me anxiety.
Or lack of leadership.
This is why the US won’t export F22’s.
We Canadians already have members of the federal government collaborating with the Chinese
@@kennethmelnychuk9737I doubt Canada will ever join the Chinese and if they do they don’t have the military to block the Americans
It's all fun and games until the US pulls out the UFOs.
Ungka flyover?
It's funny that they're unclassified, yet people _still_ don't know they exist.
Cringe comment. What are you 8?
UFOs would have "Made in China" stamped on them.
If we have them? So do other people.
Why can China buy land in the USA? I can not buy land there!
Because Biden is a NWO puppet
It is because the US are only concerned about making money and not safeguarding the future from adversaries
Good question . You certainly won't get a straight answer from our present DemoCommunist Administration .
Don't worry too much. If shit popped off it would all just become a nice investment into America. Much like Russian assets they are only foreign owned as long as we say they are.
I mean, odds are YOU can't buy land anywhere.
I agree China stole Ford Raptor technology
you mean the truck?
Und ihr habt das Rad von den Ägyptern und das Schießpulver von den Chinesen "gestohlen" 😂🙉
@hawkslayer23 it's a joke 🤣
It's OK I got a laugh out of it
yes，HAHAHA。
That’s what happens when you let foreign nationals work at military contractors
Exactly correct.
The dem party is an open book to China and Russian tech theft. Started with the clintons.
It doesnt matter. You can bs born amd bred but can still be like the cambridge 5
Just a heads up, nobody in our military is worried about this thing's capabilities. Nobody.
...and then you realise the fact that ALL the electronic systems in the F22 are made in China...
Yea saya tge youtube comment expert in world military technology.... never comment again.
@@JoeMama-xv6wo please learn how to spell and then come back to continue being an idiot.
Scouce: TH-cam university
@@JoeMama-xv6wo please learn how to spell and then come back to me.
"May" have stolen??😂😂
If they do it its OK.. But if China does it it's not OK.. Lol
Two 🤡
@@JayCarlz-sj2xp As far as I remember, Lockheed Martin is the best when it comes to fighter jets. No one comes near them
Yeah? May have stolen? How about the scumbags that have given up information?
Bought*
Even if it has the same capabilies as the F22, the US had the F22 in the 90s. They are 30 years late.
It's like China's "carrier Navy". Even if they could get them out of port, they've had carriers for 45 minutes. The US? Over a century.
I consider the F-22 superior that J-20 but...
1. Being made in the 90s means it has some obsolete systems. Lacks range, lacks IR sensors for heat missiles, lacks conectivity.
2. The general purpose of the J-20 seems to be bombing and speed much more than dogfight.
So F-22 is a superior dog fighter but J-20 uses furtivity to bomb and eacape. F-22 will have a tough time intercepting J-20 due to speed and lack of targeting (only radar missiles and no heat missiles).
F-22 was introduced at 2005 while J20 at 2017. They're just 12 years late
And now, they had more J20 in service than F-22 the US ever made
The F-35 was then developed because US who have much larger military budget than China, can't even afford more F-22
@@XimCinesI doubt J-20 would be used for face-to-face combat, since they lack of dogfight capability.
There's more likely another fighter jet in front of them to help spot the hostiles, so J-20 can launch missiles at a distance while remains undetected
@@za_pravdu1943not at all. The US absolutely could afford to produce more F-22s if it wanted to. It doesn’t. Raptors were canceled after about 120 or so were produced because they were expensive but used older technology that was quickly becoming obsolete. It was cheaper to start a program for the f-35 with multiple allies and work to produce a 6th gen than it would be to update and continue to produce the f-22. It was an economic decision to conserve for the time (when no other country could rival the f-22) in order to have something better in the future.
The fact it has canards means they don't have any idea what they're doing. That's an admittance of defeat that they couldn't stabilize the aircraft and gave up and decided to give it the cross section of a house on our radar systems.
To decrease military leak we should never ask a war thunder player to prove his point
I bet you money that if America officially declare they are releasing a 19th generation fighter. Start releasing photos and have a prototype to show off. China would announce within a short period of time their 19th generation fighter too.
😂😂😂 exactaly. It's a never ending show off competition.
Correct and predictable.
Problem is: it takes us 20 years to develop the NEXT one, then China has a competitor w/in 2 years!🥶
The "race" is too close!🤢🤢😡😡
That's what I would think too.
Having in consideration they moved a satellite to observe the prototype used for the intro of top gun...
Indigenous? Not with all the IP they stole. 😂
IP is not a thing. It's capitalist codeword for "bad for thee, good for me".
U mean bought from insider scum.
Egggzactly
I mean the USA did the same back in the day
@@hughjcawk726 Not exactly. They spared the lives of the people who created the IP, and then hired them.
Don't worry. It's made in China. We just need to worry about it randomly falling from the sky when it's touring our unrestricted airspace.
Everything is made in China, and everyone buys made in China everything. If they didn't work or weren't great value for money no one would buy them, let alone continue to buy them.
There's a reason why even us military uses Chinese made DJI drones. And Russia, and Ukraine. And Iran buys Chinese made components to build their shaheed drones. And Tesla buys and uses Chinese batteries because they are the best.
I bet 90% of everything you own is made in China or has parts or components made in China. You are basically dissing yourself and the whole world by talking shit about stuff that's "made in China" since everything is made in China and everyone buys things that's made in china.
Even american and non Chinese companies all make their stuff in China. So stuff like iPhones, Teslas, BMW, FORD, etc are all made in China also.
@@ex0duzz You're allowing a simple "humorous" comment to change your emotional state. Just calm down and eat a snickers. 😆😉
@@solosniper86my bad. I was always calm including now but I still don't see the humor as a Chinese. I just see an outdated and for the most part incorrect trope about Chinese made products being shit quality. Oh well, humor is subjective and it all depends on your target audience. I guess your "joke" wasn't intended for me, but then again my reply was not really intended for you either and more for uneducated neutral readers who would believe such a trope/joke as truth(since I admit it used to be true) and/or who doesn't know about the current day standards of Chinese made products and that we have finally learned about the concept of quality control(yay).
I will now excuse my humorless self to go smoke a joint instead. After which I may follow your advice and consume a Snickers in order to satiate the inevitable urge for culinary delights that we cultured herb connoisseurs like to label as "having the fucking munchies" 😉
@@solosniper86 - Your butt was gift wrapped in Chinese paper and handed to you 🫳🎁 so suddenly it’s a “joke”.
@@ex0duzz the vast majority of global goods that are "made in China" were not developed in China, but somewhere else. And the "myth" is not a myth, there is a reason that foreign companies have to keep a tight grip on QC, because if left to their own devices most Chinese companies will take shortcuts. "Tofu dregs" didn't just appear out of nowhere.
Our F-22 is the world standard in fighter aircraft, and it's 35 years old
F22 2011 debut. The F35 debut in 2006. SU57 2019, J20 2017
@@jaythomas3224 Teach brother 👏👏👏
Lol you're making off numbers, the first flight ever (of a poor prototype) was during the early 90's, but entered in service in 2006, 18 years ago.
It's like saying the Su57 is 23 years old because its first flight ever was in 2001
The J20 has a RCS of a choo choo train with those engines.
Chuga-chuga
@@niczim123 WOO-WOOO! Oh yea, that's the name of the tech THIEF! HAHA!
The Mighty Dragon looks like the result of an F22 Shagging a Rafale.
GOOD ONE!
Raptale
Raftor
@@texasbeast239Raftor goes kinda hard ngl
With those canards......ain't no stealth.
More like a Rafale shagging a F22, not the other way around
It’s hilarious to me that they say the F-22 is going to begin being replaced in 2030 when the F-22 was supposed to replace theF-15, but we’re still flying F-15s. (and that’s not a knock on either plane. It actually goes to show just how superior American aircraft really are)
They really aren’t, that just shows pragmatism and search for savings
The manufacturers are allowing "tech-bleed", so the DoD has to KEEP upgrading, at tax-payer expense!
Figure it out, people.
You can make a washing machine fly with enough thrust. From a country that had a famine in the 50s, it thinks it can copy'n'paste its way to match the US with paper tigers from AliExpress 😂
Do not understand there growth in reverse engineering. The pentagon has even been shocked by there weapons program. They are a GROWING threat for a reason and they are just buying time
He who copies, is never ahead.
Ugh, now China develop railgun better since the US already giving up and cut their research
@vladimirlenin4512 China tax must be high and the people cannot afford it.
lol look at your rubbish trains in US mate.
@@za_pravdu1943 lol bc we have significantly better technology.....
@@chrish3540lol wut we move more freight than all other nations combined....
Pentagon: leaks tech to enemy
Also Pentagon: We need more funding because the enemy has tech like ours.
I’d be more concerned about US politicians when it relates to China & not a few cheap knockoff raptors
*The Darkstar surpasses the Rice paper dragon*
The dark star project was a rube Goldberg....to keep their focus on it while we were already into the final stages of the 6th and 7th Gen fighters both manned and autonomous.....they are very real and very scary.
Time to get ngad in our military now not 6 years from now. We need to get and stay ahead of the rest. And quit giving all our military secrets, and our money to countries that hate us anymore. We need to take care of our own before we even think about helping anyone else. AMERICA COMES FIRST NOT LAST
100%
It takes time to develop, research, test, evaluate and build new complex aircraft.
That freaking J-20 is a substandard fighter jet
"People wondered how China made the J30 so fast" They stole all of their "groundbreaking" technology.
I believe the j-20 is a interceptor not a fighter.
Its air defense just like the raptor is
@@mintman825 the Raptor is meant as an offensive weapon.
Medium range missile truck for long range missiles is the best category to slip that thing into.
@@mintman825 He is actually correct.
@@mintman825 The Su-57 fits your argument better!
Ya think?🤣 Biden carried all of that paperwork home for a reason.
Him and other sellouts
HHHAAAAA!!! SOMEONE WHO WHO KNOWS WHATS GOING ON. THE TREASONOUS BASTARDS SOLD U.S TECHNOLOGY TO CHINA,OF COURSE I WAS READING THRU THE COMMENTS TO SEE WHOSE SMART. YOURE THE ONLY ONE. THESE OTHERS ARE STILL SUCKING ON THEIR THUMBS.
@@gordonsmith5589
Trump was the one sold us out to Russia, China and Saudi's . The conman soon to be jailman 11/20/24
Looks like money well spent.
U.S. " yooo, check out my F22"
China. "We copy ok 😊 China numba 1"
NGAD. " sup guys, what i miss? "
Everyone gangster until they feel the blast wave of a supersonic bomb.
Just like NGAD will be a Family of Systems, the F-22 is a family of technology. China can't just steal a few bits here and there. It would be like playing Chess missing half of your first row pieces.
We aren't worried about the J20 because it's about as stealthy as a fart in a quiet elevator. Everybody knows its there and it stinks as bad as you'd expect.
Being stealthy isn’t about being quiet.
America: "we have 5th gen stealth fighters."
China: *rolls out a cesna* "so do we."
If anything we should be worried about them stealing more of our blueprints for next gen fighters. Facts
The F22 Raptor is the original, the J20 is a cheap copy
Oh, I hope it's cheaper, the f22 is stupidly expensive.
The F22 flies 1 hour and needs 17 hours of maintenance. Awesome😂
@@petermpande3867 And the knockoff don't need maintenance....
@@petermpande3867that’s almost every fighter jet in U.S. service. That’s not even bad compared to what the amount of labor the F14 and F111 needed in order to fly
J 20 has nothing to do with f22 or f35
J 20 is copy of mig 1.44
Not in the same league as the raptor
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And the Raptor is well over 20 years old… 🔥 J 20 will be knocked out of the sky, even by an F 16.
@@jerrysmith7166 can't agree more Western jets have and always will be better than any other countries also Western pilots are better I'm Scottish and I no our typhoons would destroy them even with their made in China jets
@@alenkerr8533 tell that to the American pilots that were shot down by North Vietnamese migs. I know that it was long time ago but not always the west had air superiority.
猛禽又摔了，哈哈
Who writes and edits these videos? Your title states - not worried, but throughout the video it's all about being concerned and worried about the J-20. Which is it?
What do you mean, may have stolen, someone already went to prison for treason over this
I think they are worried, thats why they make too much noise about them.
Its only concerned a little bit as china keeps stealing data
It would help if the president and half of the politicians weren’t on the Chinese payroll!
Not in Chinas payroll but Russias one
you mean the country starts with I and ends with L?
They got the tech through israel, actually. This was 6 years ago already.
@@davidclayton.1511 hwya fot the source of that? Thx
On China's payroll is part of Bidenomics...
Russia: Hold my beer
The US isn’t concerned because it’s as stealthy as a flying barn and can’t even meet the capabilities of the F15 let alone 22
All of China's aviation efforts are limited by what their engines can do, which is limited in heat thresholds of materials used & other engine technology that isn't quite world leading.
The Russians have helped and are helping to “catch up” the gap in China’s aircraft industry. An acquaintance was at a factory in China, underground, teaching workers the technical intricacies.
Why do I keep clicking on this channel's videos? They are rarely about what the title says they're about.
I agree that we aren't worried about the J20. But this did not tell us why.
Clickbait
China got the blueprints from your coworker that worked on the stealth airplanes and suddenly starts driving super expensive vehicle 😂
When you fly the J20, an hour later you want to fly it again.
I laugh when I hear that china has better engineer's than us. Let me translate: You mean people who just steal technology from us and give it a new name? Dont even get me started on China's new aircraft carrier!! 😂 Looks like an American carrier with a chinese flag slapped on it. I wonder if they use the same materials to build there military equipment as the do their skyscrapers made of Styrofoam?!! 😂 I would love to see a dogfight between stolen tech and true American engineering marvels like the f22.
I laugh when I read your comment about how you want state of the art 5th gen stealth jets with 300km range missiles like PL-15 and which don't even have cannons/guns(like the J-20) and obviously designed purely for BVR combat to get into a "dogfight" like that would somehow prove something about the J-20 or prove that F-22 is superior. Lol
F-22 doesn't mean shit. There's only 150 of them. In a real conflict they won't be fighting alone, and just 2 "inferior" J-10C would destroy the F22 in visual range. What's the point of even dogfighting as a stealth jet? You stay hidden, shoot your load, and run away. Don't need to dogfight, or even WANT to.
War is not about who has more advanced or higher quality tech. Quantity has a quality of its own. Just ask Ukraine if they want one himars or patriot, or one Abrams, or if they want 100,000 "low tech" artillery shells.
When usa gets routinely humbled and loses to low tech goat herders and villagers like in Vietnam and Afghanistan, and gets destroyed by just home made IED or simple booby traps like a hole dug into the ground with wooden spikes sticking up at the bottom.
I doubt you will cares how modern or advanced your m-16 is as youre bleeding out and dying due to being impaled by a simple sharpened wooden stick which was smeared in your enemies shit to cause infections in case it didn't kill you. In the end you died in n same way as a cavemen from 50,000 years ago or an animal in a trap.
It's not the technology that matters, but how you use it. Surprise and range is still the best technology or strategy, which is why stealth and BVR is king. The literal opposite of "dogfights". Superior Knowledge and being able to capitalize on that knowledge is what wins fights.
That's why they are retiring the F-22, since even if it's stealthy, it is not built to dominate in this networked information where all J-20 and F-35 etc share information with each other.
It's like you can have the best classic sniper rifle with most powerful bullet and longest range. But I have a FPV suicide drone and stay hidden behind cover and just fly the drone into your cover and you are dead. No one fights 1v1 dogfights ever, unless they fucked up or got unlucky.
@ex0duzz You forget we have other stealth aircraft. Not just the F-22+. You also forget it has stealth too it seems. Because how is the 20 gonna shoot it down if it can't detect it. And when it does, it'll probably be too late.
I think it wasn't stolen at all,maybe somebody in pentagon sell the technology to china😂
@@ex0duzz - Good assessment! The US military, politicians, and the public have become too arrogant.
I can't entirely agree with the infallibility of BVR combat. Dogfights aren't obsolete yet, and the more complex managing the battlespace becomes, the more fragile the systems used. Some crazy politician will come along and order the destruction of the infrastructure in orbit, rendering much of the CCCI much less effective. That's just a hunch. And with a few well-placed nukes in space generating EMP, you get my point.
@@ex0duzz _"When usa gets routinely humbled and loses to low tech goat herders and villagers like in Vietnam and Afghanistan"_
The US military did not lose to goat herders and villagers, the politicians mismanaged things and tried to "nation build." Very, very few losses on the actual battlefield, especially in the modern wars.
"The NGAD fighter jet is expecting to replace the Raptor in 2030."
Yeah, and the F-35. Problem: the NGAD fughter jet doesn't exist.
NGAD is a program to iterate fighter jet technology as fast as possible, and to focus on certain parts. NGAD isn't a jet being made, it's a SERIES of jets being made right now. And nobody knows what any of them look like yet.
NGAD basically plans to overhaul ALL of U.S. air superiority fleet, regardless of branch.
Hahaha 🤣😂🤣 CHINA STEAL fighter they never never YET Try in the COMBAT and China MADE it's GARBAGE even some of Chinese tell it's garbage it's just ony in a appearance is you think is good
Imagine what we could do if we ALL just forgot our differences and got on with it!
Maybe US need to spend more money safeguarding these sensitive stealth technology?
The J20 has the flight characteristics of the F-4 Phantom.
In what way?
@Tony-wr1gz : Every time I see videos of the J20 moving through the air it reminds me of hundreds of videos of the F-4 I've seen over decades
Does the Phantom produce cloud trails that substantial when manoeuvering?
@@alanhat5252 :What do you mean by cloud trails
China can fly its spacecraft to the dark side of moon and US can't. What is J20 is it more difficult to produce than the spacecraft?
We went to the dark side of the moon over a half century ago. It's about time they got there.
You can’t blame China for wanting to develop the best possible model for stealth. It just happens that the F-22 is a perfect design for that purpose.
J20 is economy class a plane and the F/A 22 is business class.
The J-20. looks nothing like the F-22 or F-35.
I knowww but you know the general audence is braindead and truly somehow believe they look similar. Its as if comparing a mustang to a Porsche, both are fast and both have 4 wheels so obviously the mustag is copied
Just doesnt make sense
thank god a lifeform intelligence in a sea of "U-S-and-A" lemmings. First they say that with canard is impossible to have stealth then they say is a copy of f22/f35. Bipolar disturb disorder.
@@angelaferkel7922 It is not about looking similar. The talk is about important features that look to be similar. Things like nose design, vents, angled tail, probably even the stealth coating is similar.
@@davout5775 The nose, vents and tail are angled cause thats the fundamental principle of how stealth operates if it's not angled, it's not going to be stealthy and it will reflect a lot of radar off of it.
@@t3h51d3w1nd3r Ok, it is the same as F-22. Copied from the Americans!
The J-20…….I’m the best in the world. The US NGAD…….hold my beer.
Xi Jimping: I want a F-22!
Mommy: You have a F-22 at home.
The F-22 at home:
They can’t catch up if they don’t steal.
Every country does it including the United States. As matter of fact if you don’t steal then you are an FOOL.
US: 1 + 1 = 2
China: 1 + 1 = 2
US: China may have stolen our Math...
Not really that simple. In this case the J20 is not stealthy. China has never been innovative. They do nothing more than make low grade copies of what the West does.
Its like you just ignore the fact that china steals IP all the time from everyone. China steals everything and reverse engineers it. It cant innovate.
Man just by looking at that thing it can be detected like it’s nothing
China stealing from the West??? NEVER.😂😂
Turkey and South Korea develops their own stealth fighters. US also says they must of stole US military technology as they MAY look like the F-22
They want everyone to buy from them,they are saying this so that thier customers won't buy from anyone else,I always say if sanctions are lifted on Rassia, there'll be alot of countries who would buy weapons from Rassia, thier weapons are proven to be useful against all Nato weapons & the US.
I don't understand why they call it "straling" it's another government. Two hbically not stealing. I kean, 90% of the world ignores our patent system and uses it against US citizens.
US everyday bark about it😂
Then why I'm not hearing no official statements from the Pentagon about the topic?
Commies always squeaking
While I was working in construction I discovered that China had been buying land all over the U.S and also Africa and South America. Friends have told me it’s for mineral rights and also future developments
US need to focus more on gender identity, and introduce law defining all pronounce. This alone will ensure that they are leading country on earth
No way!!! China would never steal tech.😂
Neither would the US😂
@@linds6609: The U.S. doesn't have too.
@@loucyphers_nightmare are you joking? Go and do some research and see how much military tech the US has stolen from other countries.
@@loucyphers_nightmare just like the US don't steal chips from Japan, energy tech from france, oil and grains from poor farmers, and souls from isntreal
Why do we continue to educate their people??? Huh?
That’s awesome. The government should worry about this instead of the DJI drone owners that are filming real estate.
*They won't worry about them... Until they make the stupid mistake of fighting them. Keep underestimating them.*
It's a doubt if J-20 can match the Raptor or F-35. Copying looks and some capabilities are probably a way to scare off enemies by China. But it's also true that they can copy really fast which is of course a real threat
So you should be worried indeed
Unlikely. The US spends way more money on their air assets, a little stolen tech won't mean all that much in the grand scheme of things.
No matter how many advanced jets you make, you still can't break the laws of physics.
While I'm skeptical of China's capabilities, never underestimate an enemy y'all.
The canards alone make the J20 glow on radar. At least a AESA.
FYI , That's time line for the NGAD to replace the F22 has been moved up because of how well the NGAD and accompanying drone programs have done during trails.
Canards have little affect on stealth lol thats like saying elevators make aircraft suddenly not stealth
@@mintman825 Your absolutely wrong. Everything has an effect on a fighters stealth ability 🤣😂.
Go back to sleep
@@fredricksmith-something.2125 Of course but the J-20s canards aren't an end all be all
not worried? then why too concern about it as say stolen ur lower tech than him?😂😂😂
They copy they Aesthetics of there aircraft from other countries pay no money for design so stolen
All the instructions how to build an american stealth fighter We're in joe's garage next to his corvette
The J20 is excellent and why is that not allowed. China have all the right to develop and build a good air fighter.
Yes, I see the similarities, the got wing, engine and pilot .. definately copy
Is it really so stealthy? It’s huge. Much bigger than NATO equivalents.
Physical size and RCS dont really go hand and hand
@@mintman825 yeah they do
@@deldia B-2 is a prime example of how physical size doesn't mean a stealth aircrafts RCS is big
@@mintman825 true but it’s not that kind of aircraft. B-2 is the most expensive plane by orders of magnitude and wholly stealth focused.
@@deldia F-177 was big too even the raptor is a massive airplane lol
But US is worried they show US companies the door when things escalate.
Who cares about A J20 dragon, when you have an untold number of sea wolves. And you don't even know where they are.
Technology theft is the biggest joke I have heard. The Americans should grow up.
U clearly haven't heard of it then.
@@dallasyap3064 other nations also make "science"... You can't put a patent on boiling water...sooner or later they will figure it out. There are a lot of people in China
@@pavlinpetkov8984 China is known for stealing & reverse engineering tech. China has hacked LM before few times and stole sensitive info about F-22 & F-35. I'm not disregarding their nation as a whole, but for the J-20, they did build it using stolen info.
@@pavlinpetkov8984 I'm not doubting its capability but for this case specifically, it was stolen. PRC has hacked LM few times before, stealing sensitive info about the F-35 and F-22.
@@pavlinpetkov8984 I'm not doubting its capability but for this case specifically, it's stolen. Cina has hacked into LM few times before stealing sensitive info about F-22 & F-35.
Yeah... Right. Not worried about China's weapons capability. Last time the US was not worried about North Vietnam capability. Well.... You knew what happened.
The Vietnam War is what happens when the US fights with one arm and one leg and all the strategic decisions are made by politicians. The J-20 is a pile of compromises.
What, Russia had to send a bunch of their own pilots who replaced NVA pilots on many recorded occasions and improved that capability by quite a bit?
After that, US air performance improved eventually. Today's missile is much more reliable compare to that time.
Yeah, Vietnam is what happens when politicians think they know better than the one the do it for a living. If the President would have given the military an objective and turn them loose it would have turn out far different. Stupid rules of engagement!
@@kevinwhittaker2337 rules of engagement aren't a bad thing. They can hamstring the grunts in some cases, but they're an important to have when you turn a bunch of weaponized 18-20 somethings lose into a foreign country surrounded by enemies that are blending in with the population, and fuel them little than bad food caffeine and nicotine. They're also important from a macro perspective, since having and enforcing those guidelines helps us maintain our moral high ground when war is already such a morally mirky subject.
It's why every time Russia flagrantly commits a war crime in Ukraine or Ukraine gets their pows back emaciated and beaten we point towards Ukraine and how they're prosecuting their side of the war and can say, clearly, "this is how you know they're not the bad guys here" (despite what Russias bots try so hard to convince the world otherwise).
Buuuuuuut, having literally watched taliban (Intel guy, lot of time staring at drone feeds) knowing our rules of engagement and leveraging them to their advantage, like dumping a couple of magazines and then ditching weapons with runners as soon as they entered populated areas...yeah... I definitely understand the frustration.
Stolen? Yeah, some of it, but some wasn't. Right Honeywell?
Btw, what generation are TicTac and Gimbal? 😂
Biden probably sold the blueprints to China at a low price 😂
Hold on, I know I have a recept around this garage somewhere. Maybe it's under the Corvette.
Interesting
XYZ jet has wings.... Le Media: concerns that the design were stolen...
war of dominance is also a war of surprises
Will you americas SHUT UP ALREADY ! Not all your designs are stolen and the f-35 is expensive paper weight!
Knock off
it's a job program
It’s not an expensive paper weight. It’s a multi purpose weapon, but that emphasizes modern air to air combat. No one ever calls the Hornet an expensive paper weight, but when they create a stealth plane that isn’t even that expensive for fighter jets this day and age it’s and expensive paper weight. For goodness sake you have the best avionics sweet on any fighter aircraft ever and have great stealth characteristics at the cost of less than an F14D, which is one of the most widely beloved and revered fighter platforms, is a dream
When someone defects to the USA with a J20, we will see how they compare.
It's obvious the ccp stole technology
"not worried"
Meanwhile spends billions on a brand new NGAD while already having the "unbeatable Raptor" and the "most advanced fighter F-35"
Yet they feel there is an urgent enough need to build two new fighters for the AF and Navy😂😂😂😂
Because we must always stay miles ahead of the opposition, and you guys can’t seem to make an original aircraft…
@@mayochup4684 "you guys"? I am from the west and im not saying that the J-20 is better, but its potentially dangerous enough to force the US to spends billions and billions to step up their own airforce.
Because lets be clear, the US airforce easily dominates everyone else and there would be less need of a further upgrade if the CCP wouldnt rule over China rn
Innovation always leads.
Woops looks like our tech fell into the enemy's hands, we are going to need another 500 billion to develop new tech. And if you don't agree then you are a Putin puppet.
They need to maintain it's dominance,
They fear others will do what they did on to them.
they know full well how horrifying if they are at the receiving end of their own deeds.
But wether they can or can not maintain it's dominance, is a different topic.
They just approved F-16 Drones. And someone in Taiwan probably leaked the Raptor.
Damn they are planning on replacing the f-22 already?? Hell we don’t have that many of them as it is
The domestically designed and built engines they are using in j20 took almost 30 years of design, testing and development. I would hardly say it was rapid, the air frame may have come along faster.
I can’t imagine china stealing US technology. 😂😂😂
Just saw a build kit for the J-20 on sale at the dollar general...Only $19.95
"Shopping like a millionaire" 😂
The Chinese have already indicated that J20 is not as stealthy as a raptor. Some raptor squadrons are rumored to already have AIM 260.
That combo will swat J 20.