6th gen is going to be majority pilotless stealth along with what other stuff they come up with. There will be 6th gen piloted aircraft, but they will be tuned down versions because of g-force (unless that's what they were looking at for 6th gen). Question.. Does a pilotless stealth aircraft with AI mean 6th gen? What is going to be 6th gen?
The capabilities off the F-22 are mind blowing. I got to see the Raptor demo team perform at the Airshow in London, Ontario a few years back. I wish the US did not end production so early.
Unfortunately, cost overruns and bean-counters from both sides of the political aisle are what axed and killed the Raptor production program. Anytime that a totally new technology is introduced (stealth), into the manufacturing process, hiccups should be expected, like in every other aircraft built prior to such technology. The F-16 production, for example, was allowed to work all of the bugs out of the manufacturing process. This wasn't the case with the Raptor especially since it was just considered by many, to be too expensive to begin with. A shame in that, I agree with you on the fact that the F-22 is mind blowing. And this is just based upon the stuff that they've allowed us to read about or actually witness during airshows.
It's because there was no near peer adversary for the f22. They thought it was better to move on to the next generation. It was a good call considering China and Russia took 20 years to make anything close to the f22. I'm sad there aren't more but that just means the next one will be better.
Saw this beauty at a show at CFB Bagotville.... It was performing maneuvers like a child would do with a toy plane in the back of a car. The definition of raw power.
@@isubtothebest6020 No. At this same air show there was a CF-18 Demo, and F/A-18 Super Hornet Demo. The similar maneuvers were performed at much higher speeds and accelerations by the Raptor. It looked effortless.
@@isubtothebest6020 it's not just aero. It's a combination of thrust vectoring, advanced avionics, and massive power. I believe the "stated max thrust" is 70-80k pounds. Without that power it would just fall without enough lift at those slow speeds.
@@timberwolf27 nope I’m not that guy, just an aviation fan. Thank you though I appreciate that the comment. I put a lot of time into my recording setup and editing.
I've always been FASCINATED by the F-22 ever since it was released to the public. It's simply a FASCINATING aircraft to watch. Its design, capability, and functionality and second to none. The F-22 is THE projection of FORCE!!!
They have made many updates including improved sensors, radar, helmet mounted targeting systems and much more....and it's worth every penny. No other fighter has a chance. In fact one f 22 battled with 5 f15's and let's just say it' wasn't pretty for the f15. All 5 f15 were destroyed without the f22 breaking a sweat. Russians and Chinese have no clue, they are just full of propaganda to appear that they are just as capable, when in reality they aren't even close (and that's with them stealing some of the f22's tech)
Some developments will make it to the F-22s in service, but don't get your hopes up for radical new technologies. It's just not cost effective to keep a plane that hasn't been in production for over a decade up with all the latest, greatest systems. But it does make sense to use some F-22s as test beds for systems that will be in the next generation aircraft that will replace it.
@@khandimahn9687 Yes, and anyone who has worked in the manufacturing industry totally understands what you are laying down. Besides, the F-35 (all three variants) are desired to be the bread-and-butter for Lockheed Martin in terms of sales abroad....just like the F-16. The Raptor has one and only one customer...the USAF. Highly doubtful that L-M would change its tooling back for F-22s, especially when it was clear that it was much too expensive to begin with, when there would only be just one customer at the end of the day anyways. With that said, I agree with you on the Raptor test bed, most likely more geared towards incorporating things into the F-35 production line or for whatever else is in the planning process to come.
Now THIS should be the minimal standard production requirement for a good-to-great videos. The vivid video quality is so good, it has little or no pixelation, blurred edges or tiling even at max magnification. It's the perfect example that if you take time to upload a vid w/ hi-res, you get the opposite of the old saying, "garbage in, garbage out" (or GIGO).
The Air Force did sign a $10 billion contract last year with Lockheed to upgrade and modernize the F22 to offer a "bridge" to the NGAD platform. The upgrades are expected to be performed over a period of ten years. I think that is a good idea because we all know delays in programs are not uncommon.
Correct, more up to date digital avionics...better data link hardware and upgrades to allow more sophisticated AA missiles such as the upcoming AIM 260 are part of the enhancement program.
I'm going out on a limb to say I don't think we'll have those delays and overruns in NGAD. They aren't intrinsic to production of a new system. In the WW2 era, some aircraft took years to work the bugs out like the F4U Corsair, and some were service-worthy very fast like the P-51 and B-17. What we've seen in recent decades is very different, a tradition created by the peacetime management culture at the Pentagon. But I see a lot of indications that is changing, and I think there are a lot of things feeding into that change. A big part is thanks to some huge failures or near failures in each service pointing out the problems with the old way (FCS, Zumwalts, F-22). Also, I suspect that though grievously flawed, the movie Pentagon Wars may have had something to do with it by lampooning the kinds of problems that really do occur in the Pentagon, even if they get the specifics of the Bradley's development wrong. By contrast, there has been a lot of publicization of the success of the Have Blue prototype of the F-117 which was so secret that the Pentagon bureaucracy couldn't screw it up. Now, the prospect of the US having to go to war with China is helping make everyone get down to brass tacks and maintain management discipline to implement those lessons. So I think we are seeing something different now, as shown by the B-21 and the new AFV programs in the Army. I think keeping the F-22 around is because it will take time to produce enough NGADs to do the job, and making sure there are enough air superiority airframes on hand if a war breaks out is critical, and maybe even because they hope to have both F-22s and NGADs instead of one or the other.
I've seen the Raptor at Langley AFB in Hampton Virginia several times . The manuevers this beast can do are incredible . My personal favorite is the power loop . But yes , if you ever have the opportunity to see a live demo of the F22 , do so . I PROMISE you will not be disappointed . A big shout-out the the 192nd TFG , a former ANG detachment at RIC in Richmond Virginia . They graduated from the F16 to the Raptor . I really miss those Wednesday night-ops and those afterburners . 💯🇺🇲🔥
One thing people seem to forget is these were in development more than 30 years ago. Years ago I watched a speech from a retiring corporate executive in aircraft can’t remember the company and he said whatever you see is at least 30 years old as in if we released it today we developed it 30 years ago. He then went on to say that we are at least two generations into the next generation fighters. Meaning we already have the next two generations of aircraft developed just waiting to be built.
I worked on the F22 in the 1980s and it was a extremely interested development. I enjoyed every second of working on that aircraft's internal software and pilot interface.
Assuming the reflective coating is the new ceramic RAM, that's kinda a game changer, while probably incrementally improving RCS, cutting down maintenance costs, making the RAM more robust so it doesn't degrade over the course of a mission, and ramping up the sortie rate are all huge.
Maybe this new coating could be applied to the B-2 Bomber also. About a year ago I saw a B-2 flying in the early morning over the Sierra mountains the sun hit it just right it lit up like a UFO and I was saying to myself it's not so stealthy now. I took a zoomed pixelated picture of it.
Although I believe the sprit will hang around for a few years. Its roll will be the 3rd wheel. is it capable? Yes, more than. The issue is speed. Why take 12hrs when 3 meter accuracy can be achieved in under an hr anywhere in the world. Primary “aircraft” will shift from three roles to two. Intercept/air superiority, and CAS (close air support) the air force will lose 1st strike capabilities. Space force will gain this once the x37 or like wise aircraft hit the field. I believe once 1st strike is fully achieved, Spec ops transportation will shift sea and air, to sea and space. We are not developing reusable rockets for Mars 😂 this mission may benefit but Mars isn’t the set goal. America is stepping forward another step. Everyone else is working on 5 we work on 6, even seven maybe.
@@joeyb99 The USAF doesn’t seem to agree with your assessment. The B-2 is being replaced (and supplemented in the short term) by the B-21, which is just an improved and slightly smaller B-2. I think the long range conventional missile strikes you’re describing are a long way away. Yes, there are intermediate range ballistic missiles and hypersonic glide vehicles, but they don’t have anywhere near 3m accuracy, and probably won’t for quite a long time (I expect the US’s LRHW missile to be the best of the bunch but even it won’t have that kind of accuracy). Not to mention it’ll be hard for a nation being attacked to know whether those launches they see on the satellite feed are a nuclear strike or not, so they may respond with a full retaliatory strike. So these longer range missiles will mostly be useful for nuclear strikes. They’ll also be almost as expensive as aircraft and only able to be used once. So I think the ones that will actually be used will be the ones with ranges comparable to cruise missiles (which are still expensive but slightly less so). Bombers will still be needed for quite a while, and no one has yet figured out how to make a stealthy bomber that can fly supersonic for long periods, so the B-2 and B-21 are the best bets. Incidentally, those two aircraft are also much stealthier to long-wavelength radars like the ones America’s enemies like to claim can track stealth aircraft. The enemy claims are overstated, but being more stealthy against those radars is still an advantage. I do agree that eventually things may head in the direction you’re speaking of, but not for a good long while.
@@bluemarlin8138 DOD does things in threes. They see a target they want three ways to reach it. I never made a point about a missile. The slam is the only missile I spoke of and it stopped in the 70-80’s. 3m Accuracy is based on the JDAM. they have successfully tested a two stage JDAM bomb in pod dropped from low orbit. I don’t know but believe that tomorrow orders could come down and with in a week or maybe a mouth we could make this work. Delivery has been capable since I don’t know 60’-70. Not sure it could be reusable like the future but can be achieved. Back to the triad. As we speak the triad is B-2, B52, and B1b future is B-37, B-2/ raider(don’t recall its Nomenclature, and B52. A war will determine right from wrong. Always has. They design it war changes it. Let take China. We need to stop a trust towards Twain or even India lots of friction there. Chinas weakness is supply so what we gonna hit? We have a find blind kill approach. Power, bridges, and air defense. JDAM II we’ll call it falls like it always as. In time that JDAM is replaced with Spec ops. We know we can jump from that height. Tho I believe a pod will be in order. Return you just reveres the order. No this is not capable tomorrow but in our life time yes. Ps. Space force not air force will deliver this punch. It’s the real reason they were born. Strike China
there's no probobly to it!!at any given point in time,and this is a statistical truth that you can verify easily,the military industrial complex as a whole,even though theres still compartmentalization between branches,is technologically capable and are at least 15-to 20 years ahead of what the peak of the capabilities that we have on the surface and in the public now...probobly 30 -35 years ahead in same cases,with certain black budget programs
Well consider that the JTSX program was put into action in the 80s, what would become the B2 was truly developed in the 50s. Assume anything publicly acknowledged is at least two generations behind what is in development.
The raptor was here in Latrobe Pa. For a show a few years back. They practiced right or my hose. They even tipped the wing for us on one pass. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in the air.
We aren’t going to see a “new” F-22. A clean sheet design would actually be much less expensive, not to mention that much of the original F-22 tooling was destroyed when the program was cut. As much as the primary contractors love to tease nerds like us, I’m betting we have already seen something close to the actual next gen design in one of their industry adverts in the last year or two. One thing I’d bet the farm on - We won’t be seeing another vectored thrust nozzle unless it’s used to replace standard control surfaces that were used to seeing. I still think the 2004 “mystery craft” sightings over Texas were early iterations of part of the NGAD program.
Tooling was not destroyed, however the factory floor tools were removed and stored far away, space was re purpose for the f35. With the f22 tools locked away in warehouse in Arizona/nevada. The f14 tomcat tools WAS destroyed. Maybe that's what your thinking? A side note There will be only 150 f22 still flying in 2028. They have already started bringing those numbers down.
@@Radienleo that l really think you are wrong as all tooling was destroyed nobody took responsibility even box’s with tooling in it where found empty, they couldn’t even make spare parts for the F22 they had to redesign them from scratch that was also was put on TH-cam at the time.
The tailless design being currently floated as the shape of the 6gen fighter most certainly has thrust vectoring. The nozzles look a lot like Raptor nozzles. Also, if you have TVC, you can eliminate conventional control surfaces during stealthy missions, which is a huge boon. Every time a stealth aircraft deflects control surfaces, it violates stealth. If you have TVC, you can lock control surfaces and use only TVC to maneuver. Yes, the nozzles have to move, but this has far less effect on overall RCS than do wing and tail surfaces moving.
@@skyhorseprice6591 NASA has already done work on the F15 with thrust vectoring so they should be way ahead in the field by now, also way ahead of any country that seems to allow other countries to steal the design of many Military weapon developed by any Western Country.
@@Radienleo You are absolutely, 100% correct. “Destroyed” was a poor (and wrong) descriptor. I had literally just read a piece on the Avro Arrow and had destroyed tooling on the brain. It may have also been partly wishful thinking on my part as well. I am still of the opinion that the best plane didn’t win that fly-off and have always harbored some bitterness toward Lockheed and the F-22. As unbelievable as that plane is, I will go to my grave believing in my heart that the YF-23 was the better of the two. But you are definitely right. LockMart did NOT scrap the F-22 tooling once the program was canceled (another decision that I vehemently disagreed with).
I love the creativity of highly agile jets that don't just focus on top speed but are capable of bending Physics by performing insane maneuvers that almost act like a car hitting it's handbrake and drifting around a turn to get around to the other side of your Target. That's way more effective than just top speed ability.
except that's actually much much much _less_ effective. Even back in WW2 it was far more efficient to zoom and boom than to dogfight. Add in stealth and highly effective BVR missiles and it isn't even close. The gun on the F-22 and F-35 is just wasted weight to appease the idiots in the fighter mafia. Thankfully we've kicked them to the curb and can design the NGAD free of their insanity.
The first time I ever see a raptor... was an airshow, the only way I can explain it (riat 2017 airshow at raf fairford) it pulled up and got high ish and flattened out and shot off like iv never seen a jet do before in my life. It was amazing!
I think the air force is going to the philosophy of “if most engagements are beyond visual range, if we make one air craft that both is best of its class in this regard (the F-35) while being able to do ground attack then thats all we really need” so i guess thats what’s happening to the F-22 and other aircraft
Yep, dog fighting is so Gen 4. Gen 5 is purely he who sees the other and shoots first wins. Is Gen 6 going to be a case of each fighter's drones are way out ahead, spotting the enemy from even further range, communicating that back to the pilot and wait for the command to attack? Add in cheaper Gen 5, and Gen 4.5 fighters, all with ability to receive the drone data, from even further back, for extra fire power. Some drones could be without armament, just purely detection and communication drones, small and super hard to detect; and some could be armed, slightly bigger, but still harder to detect than the manned fighters. So you could end up with layers, the unarmed drones at the front, the armed drones next, the Gen 6 and Gen 5 fighters next, and Gen 4.5 bringing up the rear.
@@dadthelad today it is more effective to fire off loitering munitions for air superiority / area denial, have stealth aircraft fly sead, and 4.5 gen F-15EX missle trucks fire AIM-260 long range missles guided in by AWACS. The doctrine has changed with the adoption of 5th gen information warfare. This is a larger gap in capabilities than when BVR was first introduced with the F14 Phoenix missile. I see this as the generation before we adopt fully autonomous warfare in the skies.
The problem is that the F-35 isn’t best in class as a BVR fighter. That would be the F-22. The raptor has double the munitions payload, a much smaller RCS, more powerful radar, and a higher top speed and altitude (which means greater range for missiles). The F-35 is a great workhorse, but it was never designed as an air superiority fighter and should never be forced into that role. If anything, the USAF should have ordered way more F-22’s and fewer F-35’s.
@@DAAllan82 yes but F-35 has better avionics and much more importantly are more mass producable than the F-22 and its operational cost is better and going down while also being Multirole. F-22 probably wont be completely replaced by F-35. It will probably be replaced by NGAD program
@@cjk_02221 The program for the F-35 was Joint STRIKE Fighter. It's not built to fight aircraft, it's built to defend itself against aircraft. The F-22 is the air superiority fighter, and the F-35 is the strike fighter.
My father in law captured a photo of an aircraft with a reflective coating about 8 months back. It blended in pretty well with the background of the blue sky, just looked like a faint silhouette. It appeared to be a B2
Had a friend that was a major in the airforce when the raptor came out, he would fly to work on Monday’s and fly home Fridays. He obviously never said much but I remember one time as I was going on about how amazing and revolutionary the 22 was. Without actually saying, he told me they were at that time testing the raptors successor. The main upgrade will be the engines, ramjet/scramjet type things that can go supersonic without afterburners.
The F-22 is amazing, but remember that it's only mid 1970s tech. The military (at the time) lagged about 20 years from paperwork. We're going to see an entirely different animal come from the NGAD fighter program and others like it. CAD has gotten so advanced that small-scale models are basically obsolete, and material science has rapidly advanced. Just think about the things possible today that weren't in 2000. A lot has happened
This is wrong. It is not mid 70s tech. I also don't believe NGAD will be the leap forward the Raptor was, as the aggregate investment and experience base is not on the same scale (>6% of GDP for long periods of time) and emphasis will likely drift from from pure manned air superiority fighters.
@@thepilotman5378 And all F-22s ever built are all "A" models btw. There is no F-22B or F-22C... The F-22A Raptor is the only F-22 variant that was developed and put into production.
Whenever we have an aging fleet and people think we are falling behind, we already have something better no one knows about. There is only one reason we stopped producing the air superiority F22 so quickly. There is something else in the works that will fulfill the role if needed.
6th gen is going to be majority pilotless stealth along with what other stuff they come up with. There will be 6th gen piloted aircraft, but they will be tuned down versions because of g-force (unless that's what they were looking at for 6th gen). Question.. Does a pilotless stealth aircraft with AI mean 6th gen? What is going to be 6th gen?
I disagree, development yes. Much safer. Combat nope. If it’s not likely but possible that the enemy will have the ability to jam and or cut off the drone from its human command a human will ride along on the mission. Once air superiority is achieved drones will take over. We shouldn’t confuse navigation with decision making. We value the outcome more than human life. If we didn’t conflict wouldn’t be a thing
unfortunately the fixation on drones is a fool's gamble. cyberwarfare means an army or airforce too reliant on drones could be crippled without a single shot fired at them. drones are great for supporting and tactical levels actions in the battlefield but in a strategic sense you are gonna have a hard time using them against a competent foe
I totally agree but also know DOD ain’t that dumb. Drones are a PR move. Our enemies foreign and domestic. Use every died American service members to validate their opinion. They do this by corrupting one of our greatest strengths. Freedom of press. But at the end of the day a red blooded American will always go into harms way. The day we don’t need to anymore will be the day the constitution is the only ruling power of 🌎. Many want to limit the media in hopes to solve this issue. The only problem with this the vary moment they switch from talking to doing they become a traitor. hanging traitors again in my opinion is justice. If you live outside the US then any attack and all attacks upon the constitution or its people should be met with no mercy.
Gen ? Is an age not a Classification. F4 vs mig 21. F2/14/14/16 yf17 (f/A18 vs mig 23/ (28 if you are a top gun fan/29. Once the dips shit commie bastards collapsed. Thing slowed down. 80’s we’re about deep strike, and asset transport. Speed had reached a high in the 70’s that any faster the aircraft couldn’t be maintained. You can build it but it’s a one time use. Why the Valkyrie never went any were. Few fast flights and you have to reskin. Can’t go fast? Be unseen. Have Blue was the 1st (well the British mosquito was the 1st but Have blue was the 1st designed to defeat radar) as computers came of age and the death of math started we solved the ugly have blue (117) problem. B2 is the same yet bigger and more stable. Then came gen 5. With gen five we started talking about gen 1-4. Before it was prop age jet age, high speed jet age, and stealth age. Gen 5 is computer designed jet age and stealth age combined. Gen 6 is space and hyper speed. Now for you Hollywood people. You may have seen old maverick doing Mach 10. And think wow this is coming… we’ll it’s been around for some time we just haven’t ever been dumb enough to do it in side the Atmosphere. When in space it’s much easier. Could we do it. Maybe will a man ever travel at 10 times the speed of sound inside earths atmosphere. Likely not. The plasma that builds up prevents radio communication. One mm of being off and you dust. Why we cant talk vary well to space craft coming home. We’ve gotten better but still not great. SLAM was a Mach 3-4 low flying cruse missile but it was ify at best (why we walked away) but a nuke ify is doable. Russian accuracy is so bad they have 10 times as we do. Why aim when you can saturate. they are over coming a problem not trying to have the most. Only TH-camrs brag about the number. Like most internet scientists they are usually off the mark. Now for Drones. I see the drone argument like I see the ufo argument. it a PR thing not a reality. they fly a x-jet and a dip shit hippie sees it and says it must be a 👽, and the Air Force says yeah that’s what it was😂😂😂😂. and they don’t have to explain how safe or unsafe they are being. Drones are like this but on the other end of the spectrum. We are so powerful kill just one of us even tho you didn’t stop us from achieving the goal our media will see it as negative. So they only speak about new drones. Testing drones are safer. But if you’ve ever been in the military you should know that the 1st priority is the mission next come the troopers then equipment then civilians on the battlefield. Why civilians always get the shaft. Logic puts them at the bottom. Lots of people hate war. Yet they benefit from it. Since human records have been a thing war/prep for war has always been the leading push for advance. From concrete to the internet. It came to be cause of war. “War! what is it good for?” Well about 90% of everything you touch. Pick an item I will break down how war helped/made it be. believe it or not Dynamite is one of the few things war benefited from and not the other way around. Nobel hated war. I find it fitting his greatest achievements aided war more that any one human. Once the money flowed he was a war lord. Biggest war lord of all time has a peace prize named after him. 😂😂😂😂 stupid humans. So did he hate war, or did you just believe a dying man’s words? So what is gen 6? It’s the age of time. Anywhere on the earth in under an hr. Hawaii and New Mexico will be the jump off for 1st strikes. Some manned some unmanned. So is mavericks x-craft real. Sure it just doesn’t do it in earths Atmosphere. It goes up 1st. Bombers/strike always comes 1st fighters/interceptor 2nd attack 3rd transport 4th I think attack will be left out of gen 6. Strike will have the ability to do attack if the need arises. Strike and attack are separated by movement. If it’s fixed we call it a strike if it moves easily we attack it. Spec ops travel will be a thing as well. Just think if by 2030 we can land on mars. 2025 we can land on that continent over there. Common knowledge has always been Russia over sells (TH-cam eats this up) America undersells. Why does DOD need to tell you when Hollywood is so desperate to. Freedom of speech working. Added benefits that Hollywood is artsy but sucks at science. Thank you for muddying the waters. I’m cool with my enemy think I can shit lighting bolts. if a few-most dip shit Americas believe it too. So be it.
F-ING beautiful. The most important thing is how they are utilizing the F22 as a test bed which is, to me the smartest way to get the most out of the technology.
Twin engine jets are absolutely beautiful, and the F22 is among the foremost. I hope it and the F/A-18 Block 3 stay in service just for aesthetic purposes! Haha!
The f 18 has always looked unattractive to me. Unlike the f 15 which is a beast. F22 is much more aesthetic than the f 35. Yf 23 best looking of them all.
think the F-22 Management Office Is making the best of what it has. Everything I've heard on this and other channels supports that. Using some of the older F-22's as test beds for improving our tech advantage makes good sense.
Maybe to defeat laze guided weapons? I know the Starstreak uses laser guidance. I wonder if that coating can defeat these kinds of surface to air munitions. Are there air to air missiles that use laser guidance?
Too nice video about Nowadays ( F-22 raptor 5thgeneration fighter)...as basic designs of transmission to 6th generation fighter ( NGAD projects)...which ensure & guaranteed completely skies dominate of US Airforce in Future decades...and F-22 super raptor as intermediate phase for this ambitious project...what surprises me majority of us designed weapons..are having successfully adoption to upgrades during times thanks (pilot photog) channel ...happy Sunday...I think with this upgrades to F-22 super raptor giving a new living for F-22 raptor
I have a personal hope.. I hope that the upgrades to the F-22A Raptor will be so advanced and diverse that it'll be a new model of F-22. That being the F-22B Raptor II. I've seen quite a few changes going on with those airframes so I hope it also reenters production.
A mirrored coating is the best solution to enemy directed energy weapons, as laser light can't damage a surface that reflects it. Such a coating might also benefit missiles and non stealth aircraft subject to directed energy weapons.
I truly wish they wouldve made the 700 or so F22's that were planned, or atleast upgrade the ones that were built. It is by far the most stealthy, beautiful & capable fighter the US has ever had. The design was just perfect in every way, from every angle👌Imagine if they received the most up-to-date electronics & software to match the F35's technology. It'll be a sad day when these legends are inevitably retired. We can only hope that a good number of them are sent to museums instead of the boneyard🥲
People are speculating that the skin is designed to reduce IR signature. Wouldn't an ultra-white coating be more effective? I think they're trying to get ahead of laser technology by building a skin that may not be impervious to laser, but would reflect it for long enough to survive laser shot's short duration, especially when a single laser battery is put up against multiple craft flying in formation. Not to mention, aren't most SAM systems RADAR guided? And, IR air-to-air missiles are looking at the exhaust, not the skin.
It’s such a shame the worlds greatest fighter ever created hasn’t flown a single combat mission. Then again, when you’re such a badass, who wants to test you… especially if you lose, you die.
I live in the Interior of Alaska and I get to drive by an Air Base ‘up here’. They have F-16s and F-35s assigned here and others visit regularly. I see F-22s on the flight lines and runways but like my Mother used to tell me, “Look buy don’t touch...” meaning, I may look at them but they have signs out along the highway, “No Photography”. I can’t take pictures... Some folks might be temptress to ask, “You mean you’ve never... you know? Taken a couple of photos anyway?” My answer is, “No, I haven’t... Retired Army and I Obey Orders... Even those of the Air Force.”
I've had a theory about the "Shiny F-22". The previous RAM (Radar Absorbing Material) paint/coating for the Raptor has been criticized for being "fragile", ie, flaking and dissolving in rain. I'm wondering if they have developed an inexpensive version of RAM that can be rapidly applied just before mission deployment and possibly can be removed after deployment. Just a wild guess. Speaking of wild guesses, another question I have is what is the purpose behind the "flying tic-tac" drone? I'd think its some sort of sensor/reconnaissance testbed also testing ion propulsion and likely pretty light weight. Would these drones be capable of carrying weapons or possibly be used for "kamikaze" attacks? Could they possibly be used as decoy drones to support stealth fighters/bombers possibly clouding enemy radars with multiple targets with similar cross sections?
Calm down with the ion propulsion nonsense. Of all the unbelievable things that have been stated about the drone. Using Ion propulsion that effectively inside Earth's atmosphere is probably the most unrealistic.
can confirm that the current LO paint is dogshit. theyll ground the jet in inclement weather due to the amount of maintainance after the sortie, to save man hours
Using Ion propulsion for a kamikaze drone is one of the dumbest things I think I've ever heard. 1. It's not lighter than current propulsion tech for small UAV's 2. It's far more expensive than other propulsion systems and cost is the name of the game for employing small munitions like that 3. It requires vast amounts of energy which could be used for other purposes/systems or to extend the loiter time if the vehicle was powered by an electric motor instead. That space could also be utilized in a gas-powered drone to extend the range as well In summary, it's a terrible path forward for small UAV's because it's expensive, would degrade range/capability, and offers essentially zero benefit other than being much quieter than existing technologies
Your idea is interesting. It's a good theory, and who knows if it is adapted for practice. Some sort of superb RAM coating that will last several missions, then blasted away for recoating might indeed be cheaper and better than the current fragile RAM. Good thinking, I suggest you patent the idea at least...become a patent troll. MCI
There are very key components that were already outdated once it was deployed that need to be completely re-manufactured and designed from scratch. They are also focused on 6th gen aircraft. And they already have re-designed the F-15 EX to run with F-35s. I wish the F-22 was still going to be worked on but it's not happening. I fly with many Raptor pilots at Randolph in T-38s with IFF. And they all say the same thing. Highly unlikely. And we are approaching the delivery of our new 5th and 6th Gen trainer called the T-7 Redhawk. Great video.
There is a new 6th gen fighter that is still top secret but that has clearly already been prototyped and has been in full production for at least 3 years. Bank on it.
The prototype has flown but it isn’t yet in full production. It would be too hard to hide if it were in mass production. And you don’t want to rush it before the kinks are worked out. The F-22 and F-35 are still better than anyone else’s aircraft, so there’s time to get it right.
Did ya hear about the drone.f4 against 4 f22s it was for practice all f22s.had to shoot all 4 of their.missles to take down.tje f4 finally btw f4 can go mach 2.6 the old.raptor stealth coating gets damaged at mach 2
One of the major issues with the F-22 is coating maintenance, which is likely why we are seeing alternatives being tested. There is also the issue of sensors from 25 years ago not being what they are today or the ability of the aircraft to share data like the F-35 can. The F-14 left early due to per hour flight cost. That's taking some of the Raptor's life, too.
It is possible the mirror coating is connected with the more recent use of laser tracking systems on anti air missiles rather than the current IR and radar homing systems used. Perhaps it can be used to defeat or deflect the laser designators in some fashion.
When ever I tune in to your channel I am filled wth a sense of relief. As well as being a very fine information channel, in it's own right, the knowledge that the U.S produces the finest tactical air-defence/air dominance flying machines, gives me hope that my loved ones, my country and the NATO Alliance nations are supremely well protected by the might of our U.S cousins on the other side of the Pond. That, in itself, is a matter of huge relief. It must be dreadful to go to bed, not knowing what terrors await you in the night, and in the days to follow. God bless us all, that seek the correct ways in which to conduct ourselves, and address issues peacefully; resorting to military options only when forced to by evil doers.
@@cameronspence4977 I'm 72 years old..I spent a year in Vietnam when I was a young man..We went in there to stop the spread of communism,"f"ed everything up and then they kicked our asses out..Just like Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Guatemala and Honduras and Tahiti and Venezuela and Chile and I think you get my drift..Look at Ukraine now..They've screwed it all up and they dragged Europe down the rabbit hole with em..
I'm fortunate enough to live near an airport that hosts an annual air show and I see the F-22 doing practice runs in the days before the show and then the 2 days of the show... so basically 3 to 4 days of a Raptor flying over my house a lot. Those suckers aren't just nimble, but they are loud. lol
A slick coating would increase speed and reduce wind resistance, but a mirror finish would reflect sunlight at certain angles and could provide a tail tail signature on visual observation.
Actually the mirror finish is thought to be a defense against visual detection. As the theory is the finish would caused the plane to blend in with the sky. There is a video on here about the F35 being seen on a carrier with the mirror finish. It stated it was most likely the next step in testing. To see how salt air and spray affect the finish.
the mirror coating significantly reduces the heat signature of the plane though (blackbody radiation weakens the more reflective a surface is), and also reflects visual and thermal light to make it more difficult to visually and thermally spot. Imagine how hard it would be to see a mirror in the woods. It also reflects light from lasers and other energy weapons.
Very well done, thank you for producing and posting. The new mirror like coatings spotted on the raptor might be for deterrence of directed energy anti aircraft weaponry perhaps?!?!?
It was originally conceived as a defence against the deadliest directed energy weapon, one that fires bolts of highly charged plasma, with devastating effects.....the Klingon Disrupter beam.
A mirror finish dissipates laser targeting spots from adhering to the surface for missiles to follow! Depending on how & where it is used, it can blend the plane to the sky colour, due to reflection!
It’s just mind boggling how close the YF-23 already was to the 6th generation concept. They would probably just be upgraded, instead of replaced so soon like the Raptor. Well, at least, the Black Widow II will finally be vindicated as the 6th gen concept just shows how much of a superior design it had at the time.
@Master_Misanthrope ...F22 maybe older than the F35 but far superior to it across the board. F35 was not meant to replace the F22, it was meant to replace the F16. That should tell you all you need to know about it. Why do you think we never exported the F22 but exported the F35?
@Master_Misanthrope ...BTW, B52, KC135, and U2 all over 60 years old and still flying. F15 is 50 years old and F16 & F18 both over 40 years old and still flying. Why you ask? Continual upgrades keep them relevant. Fun fact: F22 is actually more like 25 years old. First flight was 1997
The 3d model you showed reminds me of my favorite fighter plane (and possibly favorite plane period) ever, the YF-23, I think it would be smart for the US government to take the best of both the F-22 and the YF-23 and perhaps a pinch of something new design wise and new technology to make the pinnacle of air superiority fighter yet!
The F-22 is a great platform to test highly-reflective or hardened modular surfaces - most likely to deflect long-range infra red search & track or low-power laser targeting systems or even to protect sensitive parts against directed-energy weaponry. The next 6th-gen manned fighters & a slew of UCAV platforms will most likely be implementing.
I hope the f22’s lease on life gets extended, would love to see them fly for years to come, why get rid of the best fighter jet ever built, just improve upon it, and I truly don’t understand why they decreased the number of them produced, if you ask me they should add some state of the art upgrades and ramp up production again
It's all about the cost. I think the F-22's development is one of the most over-budget fighter programs ever. 700 proposed aircraft down to less than 200 suggests massive mis-management issues, but the air force was probably under contract to guarantee the purchase of the plane. Plus it's an air superiority fighter which I don't think has been in a real-world aerial engagement. Is it an impressive aircraft? Sure, but it's borderline pointless.
@@PlatinumPaladin It’s pointless until war breaks out, but yes it kinda can seem pointless because no intelligent country would actually try to go to war with the US, the thing about having the strongest military means enemies will try to beat you in every way except militarily
@@gio-ko7kf Thanks for the input, Team America. The other thing about having the strongest military is that you can always take the war to those weaker than you. Y'know, just to keep your game up.
@@paulhatala7976 That's the mentality of a bully, and arguably there are plenty examples where someone has gone to war with lesser forces and still lost.
We also have a chrome/mirror imaging F-117 thats been testing out here at our S.N.G.B. and where told N.G.out in California have been testing a 2nd mirror coated F-117.
@@et9120 Can you explain wtf sense your trying to make?...Ok thanks! It's like the dumb,the dense and the ignorant all rolled up in one nonsensical comment.Make sure you look up "nonsensical" cause with a comment like yours you don't know it.Smh
The mirror finish are an experimental finish to protect against energy weapons. I understand it actually makes easier to find for laser guided weapons.
I still think the YF-23 was the better airframe and the NGAD mockups look more like it than the F-22 and the one thing that they cannot extend is the service life of the airframe itself!
I was thinking that very thing. Some of us wonder if the lessons learned with the YF-23 program, as it had some advantages over the 22, might have trickled up into the NGAD program and the next fighter.
One of the craziest aspects of the F22 is that despite being older than the F35 there are a small number of technologies that are more advanced, mainly because of secrecy and export restrictions. You don't put all your most advanced systems on an aircraft that will be exported to places where you can't ensure the operational security of those systems. What the US is partly doing right now is what they didn't want Turkey to do by acquiring the F35 and the S400, which is to improve both by gaining data that's tough to come by in actual real world scenarios. Of course you would put your 6th gen development against your most advanced fighter. They will both come out ahead.
I'd bet that the mirror Finish is to reduce visual profile. Radar maybe thermal could work but a plane that reflects to sky back to your eyes is a lot harder to see
The mirror-like finish could help reduce the infra-red signature as you said. However, it potentially could also be a countermeasure to laser weapons. The NGAD may carry a laser. 🤔
One thing the new coating could be useful for, is protection from laser based weapons. A stated goal of 6th gen aircraft is to be able to use lasers. A silver reflective coating would reduce the effectiveness of laser weapons.
We need more fantastic fighters like the Raptor .... not less. It is always too expensive to keep the F-22 when you want the newest candy in the candy store. We very well may need both by the time the 30's roll in. Ohh well I won't be here so it's not my problem. Good Luck y'all.
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6th gen is going to be majority pilotless stealth along with what other stuff they come up with. There will be 6th gen piloted aircraft, but they will be tuned down versions because of g-force (unless that's what they were looking at for 6th gen). Question.. Does a pilotless stealth aircraft with AI mean 6th gen? What is going to be 6th gen?
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You can thank Obama for cutting the funding for the F 22 raptor
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another aircraft that could benefit this system, is the SR-72 Aurora
The capabilities off the F-22 are mind blowing. I got to see the Raptor demo team perform at the Airshow in London, Ontario a few years back. I wish the US did not end production so early.
Unfortunately, cost overruns and bean-counters from both sides of the political aisle are what axed and killed the Raptor production program.
Anytime that a totally new technology is introduced (stealth), into the manufacturing process, hiccups should be expected, like in every other aircraft built prior to such technology. The F-16 production, for example, was allowed to work all of the bugs out of the manufacturing process. This wasn't the case with the Raptor especially since it was just considered by many, to be too expensive to begin with.
A shame in that, I agree with you on the fact that the F-22 is mind blowing. And this is just based upon the stuff that they've allowed us to read about or actually witness during airshows.
US military made a decision to put all in for the F-35. Continued production for the F-22 was not sustainable with the F-35.
For some reason, the AF brass does not like the Raptor so much. I have never understood it.
@@RenKnight347 The F35 has had similar cost over runs.
It's because there was no near peer adversary for the f22. They thought it was better to move on to the next generation. It was a good call considering China and Russia took 20 years to make anything close to the f22. I'm sad there aren't more but that just means the next one will be better.
Saw an F-22 demo some years ago. This thing is amazing. Flies like a spaceship and the sound, man. The sound. It’s indescribable.
Nothing is indestructible
@@into_the_void Wow great insight Viv!
@@InspectahPatio every minute in Africa.... .
Is sixty seconds
@@into_the_void u should start your own religion mate
@@into_the_void indescribable is what Hank said not indestructible
I hope I am alive when (mostly) everything about the F-22 gets declassified.
This and the YF-23
Good luck with that. The F-14D is still classified.
Me: Waiting in DCS... :)
Some F4 systems are still classified to this day.
@@trigger8152 Pretty much everything EW is, even the oldest stuff. Couldn't even get full-scale Vietnam era jamming into DCS because of that.
A responsibly speculative video. Void of the typical hyperbole yet highly informative. A delicate balance, well executed. Bravo Zulu.
Saw this beauty at a show at CFB Bagotville.... It was performing maneuvers like a child would do with a toy plane in the back of a car. The definition of raw power.
Aerodynamics not power
@@isubtothebest6020 No. At this same air show there was a CF-18 Demo, and F/A-18 Super Hornet Demo. The similar maneuvers were performed at much higher speeds and accelerations by the Raptor. It looked effortless.
@@vonpredator speed =power. maneuvers=aerodynamics
I am waiting for su 57 on maks 2023
@@isubtothebest6020 it's not just aero. It's a combination of thrust vectoring, advanced avionics, and massive power. I believe the "stated max thrust" is 70-80k pounds. Without that power it would just fall without enough lift at those slow speeds.
Amazing stuff, and yes the F-22 does crazy stuff; I saw it at the Chino airshow in '15. Excellent video Juan, and cheers buddy; take care.
Thanks Juan! Glad you enjoyed the video and the Raptor demo is amazing!
@@PilotPhotog Those guys are true professionals, as well as fine warriors. Enjoy the humpday my friend.
I saw this exact same demo! It was like watching an actual starfighter fly.
is the narrator the guy that used to make Strange Mysteries channel videos?
@@timberwolf27 nope I’m not that guy, just an aviation fan. Thank you though I appreciate that the comment. I put a lot of time into my recording setup and editing.
I've always been FASCINATED by the F-22 ever since it was released to the public. It's simply a FASCINATING aircraft to watch. Its design, capability, and functionality and second to none. The F-22 is THE projection of FORCE!!!
If new developments can make the F-22 more lethal, then I hope they do it :)
I hope not, its wasted money. it better to invest into something new.
They have made many updates including improved sensors, radar, helmet mounted targeting systems and much more....and it's worth every penny. No other fighter has a chance. In fact one f 22 battled with 5 f15's and let's just say it' wasn't pretty for the f15. All 5 f15 were destroyed without the f22 breaking a sweat. Russians and Chinese have no clue, they are just full of propaganda to appear that they are just as capable, when in reality they aren't even close (and that's with them stealing some of the f22's tech)
@@FrantisekPicifuk No it's worth it f-22 will soon have helmet mounted sight and infrared search and track
Some developments will make it to the F-22s in service, but don't get your hopes up for radical new technologies. It's just not cost effective to keep a plane that hasn't been in production for over a decade up with all the latest, greatest systems. But it does make sense to use some F-22s as test beds for systems that will be in the next generation aircraft that will replace it.
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Yes, and anyone who has worked in the manufacturing industry totally understands what you are laying down.
Besides, the F-35 (all three variants) are desired to be the bread-and-butter for Lockheed Martin in terms of sales abroad....just like the F-16.
The Raptor has one and only one customer...the USAF.
Highly doubtful that L-M would change its tooling back for F-22s, especially when it was clear that it was much too expensive to begin with, when there would only be just one customer at the end of the day anyways.
With that said, I agree with you on the Raptor test bed, most likely more geared towards incorporating things into the F-35 production line or for whatever else is in the planning process to come.
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Hands-down the most impressive fighter that’s ever flown I’ve seen them fly several times throwing the law of physics out the window
The Air Force did sign a $10 billion contract last year with Lockheed to upgrade and modernize the F22 to offer a "bridge" to the NGAD platform. The upgrades are expected to be performed over a period of ten years. I think that is a good idea because we all know delays in programs are not uncommon.
Correct, more up to date digital avionics...better data link hardware and upgrades to allow more sophisticated AA missiles such as the upcoming AIM 260 are part of the enhancement program.
I'm going out on a limb to say I don't think we'll have those delays and overruns in NGAD. They aren't intrinsic to production of a new system. In the WW2 era, some aircraft took years to work the bugs out like the F4U Corsair, and some were service-worthy very fast like the P-51 and B-17. What we've seen in recent decades is very different, a tradition created by the peacetime management culture at the Pentagon.
But I see a lot of indications that is changing, and I think there are a lot of things feeding into that change. A big part is thanks to some huge failures or near failures in each service pointing out the problems with the old way (FCS, Zumwalts, F-22). Also, I suspect that though grievously flawed, the movie Pentagon Wars may have had something to do with it by lampooning the kinds of problems that really do occur in the Pentagon, even if they get the specifics of the Bradley's development wrong. By contrast, there has been a lot of publicization of the success of the Have Blue prototype of the F-117 which was so secret that the Pentagon bureaucracy couldn't screw it up. Now, the prospect of the US having to go to war with China is helping make everyone get down to brass tacks and maintain management discipline to implement those lessons.
So I think we are seeing something different now, as shown by the B-21 and the new AFV programs in the Army. I think keeping the F-22 around is because it will take time to produce enough NGADs to do the job, and making sure there are enough air superiority airframes on hand if a war breaks out is critical, and maybe even because they hope to have both F-22s and NGADs instead of one or the other.
Seems like the USAF is finally getting around to air systems that Dale Brown has been describing for 20 years. Good for them.
Much easier to describe a chicken than to actually build one from scratch ...
Isn't it ironic that many things he wrote about in his books are now coming to fruition.
@@scottgrasher5387 its a lot of things,
But its not ironic.
what has he been saying? He is an author no? What book are we referring to?
@@The_Lost_Shepherd several of his books actually.
I've seen the Raptor at Langley AFB in Hampton Virginia several times . The manuevers this beast can do are incredible . My personal favorite is the power loop . But yes , if you ever have the opportunity to see a live demo of the F22 , do so . I PROMISE you will not be disappointed . A big shout-out the the 192nd TFG , a former ANG detachment at RIC in Richmond Virginia . They graduated from the F16 to the Raptor . I really miss those Wednesday night-ops and those afterburners . 💯🇺🇲🔥
One thing people seem to forget is these were in development more than 30 years ago. Years ago I watched a speech from a retiring corporate executive in aircraft can’t remember the company and he said whatever you see is at least 30 years old as in if we released it today we developed it 30 years ago. He then went on to say that we are at least two generations into the next generation fighters. Meaning we already have the next two generations of aircraft developed just waiting to be built.
I worked on the F22 in the 1980s and it was a extremely interested development. I enjoyed every second of working on that aircraft's internal software and pilot interface.
Assuming the reflective coating is the new ceramic RAM, that's kinda a game changer, while probably incrementally improving RCS, cutting down maintenance costs, making the RAM more robust so it doesn't degrade over the course of a mission, and ramping up the sortie rate are all huge.
Maybe this new coating could be applied to the B-2 Bomber also. About a year ago I saw a B-2 flying in the early morning over the Sierra mountains the sun hit it just right it lit up like a UFO and I was saying to myself it's not so stealthy now. I took a zoomed pixelated picture of it.
The stealth ceramic coating that can withstand high heat and light damage without reapplying new RAM coating
Although I believe the sprit will hang around for a few years. Its roll will be the 3rd wheel. is it capable? Yes, more than. The issue is speed. Why take 12hrs when 3 meter accuracy can be achieved in under an hr anywhere in the world. Primary “aircraft” will shift from three roles to two. Intercept/air superiority, and CAS (close air support) the air force will lose 1st strike capabilities. Space force will gain this once the x37 or like wise aircraft hit the field. I believe once 1st strike is fully achieved, Spec ops transportation will shift sea and air, to sea and space. We are not developing reusable rockets for Mars 😂 this mission may benefit but Mars isn’t the set goal. America is stepping forward another step. Everyone else is working on 5 we work on 6, even seven maybe.
@@joeyb99 The USAF doesn’t seem to agree with your assessment. The B-2 is being replaced (and supplemented in the short term) by the B-21, which is just an improved and slightly smaller B-2. I think the long range conventional missile strikes you’re describing are a long way away. Yes, there are intermediate range ballistic missiles and hypersonic glide vehicles, but they don’t have anywhere near 3m accuracy, and probably won’t for quite a long time (I expect the US’s LRHW missile to be the best of the bunch but even it won’t have that kind of accuracy). Not to mention it’ll be hard for a nation being attacked to know whether those launches they see on the satellite feed are a nuclear strike or not, so they may respond with a full retaliatory strike. So these longer range missiles will mostly be useful for nuclear strikes. They’ll also be almost as expensive as aircraft and only able to be used once. So I think the ones that will actually be used will be the ones with ranges comparable to cruise missiles (which are still expensive but slightly less so). Bombers will still be needed for quite a while, and no one has yet figured out how to make a stealthy bomber that can fly supersonic for long periods, so the B-2 and B-21 are the best bets. Incidentally, those two aircraft are also much stealthier to long-wavelength radars like the ones America’s enemies like to claim can track stealth aircraft. The enemy claims are overstated, but being more stealthy against those radars is still an advantage.
I do agree that eventually things may head in the direction you’re speaking of, but not for a good long while.
@@bluemarlin8138 DOD does things in threes. They see a target they want three ways to reach it. I never made a point about a missile. The slam is the only missile I spoke of and it stopped in the 70-80’s. 3m Accuracy is based on the JDAM. they have successfully tested a two stage JDAM bomb in pod dropped from low orbit. I don’t know but believe that tomorrow orders could come down and with in a week or maybe a mouth we could make this work. Delivery has been capable since I don’t know 60’-70. Not sure it could be reusable like the future but can be achieved. Back to the triad. As we speak the triad is B-2, B52, and B1b future is B-37, B-2/ raider(don’t recall its Nomenclature, and B52. A war will determine right from wrong. Always has. They design it war changes it. Let take China. We need to stop a trust towards Twain or even India lots of friction there. Chinas weakness is supply so what we gonna hit? We have a find blind kill approach. Power, bridges, and air defense. JDAM II we’ll call it falls like it always as. In time that JDAM is replaced with Spec ops. We know we can jump from that height. Tho I believe a pod will be in order. Return you just reveres the order. No this is not capable tomorrow but in our life time yes. Ps. Space force not air force will deliver this punch. It’s the real reason they were born. Strike China
@@bluemarlin8138 we fire Satellites monthly…. No WWIII yet. One of those times you need to think inside the box
Wouldn't we love to know what kind of tech the AF has? It's probably well ahead of what we have seen.
Probably so, but hope they keep our enemies in the dark about our technology.
there's no probobly to it!!at any given point in time,and this is a statistical truth that you can verify easily,the military industrial complex as a whole,even though theres still compartmentalization between branches,is technologically capable and are at least 15-to 20 years ahead of what the peak of the capabilities that we have on the surface and in the public now...probobly 30 -35 years ahead in same cases,with certain black budget programs
Looks like a "cloaking device" might be a new capability, invisible stealth.
Not probably, absolutely
Most defiantly, did you know the internet was the military use in the late 30s and 40s
Well consider that the JTSX program was put into action in the 80s, what would become the B2 was truly developed in the 50s. Assume anything publicly acknowledged is at least two generations behind what is in development.
The raptor was here in Latrobe Pa. For a show a few years back. They practiced right or my hose. They even tipped the wing for us on one pass. It was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in the air.
Could the “mirror” coating be for deflecting a high energy laser weapon? Just a curious thought.
I've read on some websites that suggest this is most likely the case
Is this why most disky bois are shin also?
It's probably anti IRST, (infrared search and track) which the Russians use heavily on top of standard "radar"
@@SaladDressing69 Yes. Source: I'm alien engineer.
Mirror coating = magnetic refractive realignment surface. It doesn't just disperse lasers. It's the next gen of stealth.
We aren’t going to see a “new” F-22. A clean sheet design would actually be much less expensive, not to mention that much of the original F-22 tooling was destroyed when the program was cut.
As much as the primary contractors love to tease nerds like us, I’m betting we have already seen something close to the actual next gen design in one of their industry adverts in the last year or two.
One thing I’d bet the farm on - We won’t be seeing another vectored thrust nozzle unless it’s used to replace standard control surfaces that were used to seeing.
I still think the 2004 “mystery craft” sightings over Texas were early iterations of part of the NGAD program.
Tooling was not destroyed, however the factory floor tools were removed and stored far away, space was re purpose for the f35. With the f22 tools locked away in warehouse in Arizona/nevada. The f14 tomcat tools WAS destroyed. Maybe that's what your thinking? A side note There will be only 150 f22 still flying in 2028. They have already started bringing those numbers down.
@@Radienleo that l really think you are wrong as all tooling was destroyed nobody took responsibility even box’s with tooling in it where found empty, they couldn’t even make spare parts for the F22 they had to redesign them from scratch that was also was put on TH-cam at the time.
The tailless design being currently floated as the shape of the 6gen fighter most certainly has thrust vectoring. The nozzles look a lot like Raptor nozzles. Also, if you have TVC, you can eliminate conventional control surfaces during stealthy missions, which is a huge boon. Every time a stealth aircraft deflects control surfaces, it violates stealth. If you have TVC, you can lock control surfaces and use only TVC to maneuver. Yes, the nozzles have to move, but this has far less effect on overall RCS than do wing and tail surfaces moving.
@@skyhorseprice6591 NASA has already done work on the F15 with thrust vectoring so they should be way ahead in the field by now, also way ahead of any country that seems to allow other countries to steal the design of many Military weapon developed by any Western Country.
@@Radienleo You are absolutely, 100% correct. “Destroyed” was a poor (and wrong) descriptor. I had literally just read a piece on the Avro Arrow and had destroyed tooling on the brain.
It may have also been partly wishful thinking on my part as well. I am still of the opinion that the best plane didn’t win that fly-off and have always harbored some bitterness toward Lockheed and the F-22. As unbelievable as that plane is, I will go to my grave believing in my heart that the YF-23 was the better of the two.
But you are definitely right. LockMart did NOT scrap the F-22 tooling once the program was canceled (another decision that I vehemently disagreed with).
I love the creativity of highly agile jets that don't just focus on top speed but are capable of bending Physics by performing insane maneuvers that almost act like a car hitting it's handbrake and drifting around a turn to get around to the other side of your Target. That's way more effective than just top speed ability.
except that's actually much much much _less_ effective. Even back in WW2 it was far more efficient to zoom and boom than to dogfight. Add in stealth and highly effective BVR missiles and it isn't even close. The gun on the F-22 and F-35 is just wasted weight to appease the idiots in the fighter mafia. Thankfully we've kicked them to the curb and can design the NGAD free of their insanity.
The first time I ever see a raptor... was an airshow, the only way I can explain it (riat 2017 airshow at raf fairford) it pulled up and got high ish and flattened out and shot off like iv never seen a jet do before in my life. It was amazing!
I think the air force is going to the philosophy of “if most engagements are beyond visual range, if we make one air craft that both is best of its class in this regard (the F-35) while being able to do ground attack then thats all we really need” so i guess thats what’s happening to the F-22 and other aircraft
Yep, dog fighting is so Gen 4. Gen 5 is purely he who sees the other and shoots first wins.
Is Gen 6 going to be a case of each fighter's drones are way out ahead, spotting the enemy from even further range, communicating that back to the pilot and wait for the command to attack? Add in cheaper Gen 5, and Gen 4.5 fighters, all with ability to receive the drone data, from even further back, for extra fire power. Some drones could be without armament, just purely detection and communication drones, small and super hard to detect; and some could be armed, slightly bigger, but still harder to detect than the manned fighters. So you could end up with layers, the unarmed drones at the front, the armed drones next, the Gen 6 and Gen 5 fighters next, and Gen 4.5 bringing up the rear.
@@dadthelad today it is more effective to fire off loitering munitions for air superiority / area denial, have stealth aircraft fly sead, and 4.5 gen F-15EX missle trucks fire AIM-260 long range missles guided in by AWACS. The doctrine has changed with the adoption of 5th gen information warfare.
This is a larger gap in capabilities than when BVR was first introduced with the F14 Phoenix missile.
I see this as the generation before we adopt fully autonomous warfare in the skies.
The problem is that the F-35 isn’t best in class as a BVR fighter. That would be the F-22. The raptor has double the munitions payload, a much smaller RCS, more powerful radar, and a higher top speed and altitude (which means greater range for missiles).
The F-35 is a great workhorse, but it was never designed as an air superiority fighter and should never be forced into that role. If anything, the USAF should have ordered way more F-22’s and fewer F-35’s.
@@DAAllan82 yes but F-35 has better avionics and much more importantly are more mass producable than the F-22 and its operational cost is better and going down while also being Multirole. F-22 probably wont be completely replaced by F-35. It will probably be replaced by NGAD program
@@cjk_02221 The program for the F-35 was Joint STRIKE Fighter. It's not built to fight aircraft, it's built to defend itself against aircraft. The F-22 is the air superiority fighter, and the F-35 is the strike fighter.
Remember.. mirror finishes repel heat just as well as absorbing it
The NGAD is absolutely the Aerotech Hammerhead fighter from Space: Above & Beyond 😄
Shuffle up the Wildcards, and deal em!
That NGAD demonstrator looks like the YF-23 minus the vertical stabilizers because of its trapezoidal wings.
My father in law captured a photo of an aircraft with a reflective coating about 8 months back. It blended in pretty well with the background of the blue sky, just looked like a faint silhouette. It appeared to be a B2
Had a friend that was a major in the airforce when the raptor came out, he would fly to work on Monday’s and fly home Fridays. He obviously never said much but I remember one time as I was going on about how amazing and revolutionary the 22 was. Without actually saying, he told me they were at that time testing the raptors successor. The main upgrade will be the engines, ramjet/scramjet type things that can go supersonic without afterburners.
F22 already can "super cruise"
The F-22 is amazing, but remember that it's only mid 1970s tech. The military (at the time) lagged about 20 years from paperwork. We're going to see an entirely different animal come from the NGAD fighter program and others like it. CAD has gotten so advanced that small-scale models are basically obsolete, and material science has rapidly advanced. Just think about the things possible today that weren't in 2000. A lot has happened
This is wrong. It is not mid 70s tech. I also don't believe NGAD will be the leap forward the Raptor was, as the aggregate investment and experience base is not on the same scale (>6% of GDP for long periods of time) and emphasis will likely drift from from pure manned air superiority fighters.
@@nutsackmania as a person who has seen the raptor up close through it's production I can guarantee that it is very old tech. Especially the a models
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And all F-22s ever built are all "A" models btw.
There is no F-22B or F-22C...
The F-22A Raptor is the only F-22 variant that was developed and put into production.
Seen the Raptor perform at a Cleveland OH airshow and ......well , let's just say I was blown away !
IIRC the F-35 and even the F-117 have been sighted with whatever this silver coating is
Indeed and I mentioned that in the video: at least one F-117 and one F-35C have been spotted with the chrome coatings. Thanks for commenting!
Whenever we have an aging fleet and people think we are falling behind, we already have something better no one knows about. There is only one reason we stopped producing the air superiority F22 so quickly. There is something else in the works that will fulfill the role if needed.
That and its sister the F-35 are absolutely beautiful machines.
Awesome work on these video for the past month or so! I'm truly enjoying the content!
6th gen is going to be majority pilotless stealth along with what other stuff they come up with. There will be 6th gen piloted aircraft, but they will be tuned down versions because of g-force (unless that's what they were looking at for 6th gen). Question.. Does a pilotless stealth aircraft with AI mean 6th gen? What is going to be 6th gen?
I disagree, development yes. Much safer. Combat nope. If it’s not likely but possible that the enemy will have the ability to jam and or cut off the drone from its human command a human will ride along on the mission. Once air superiority is achieved drones will take over. We shouldn’t confuse navigation with decision making. We value the outcome more than human life. If we didn’t conflict wouldn’t be a thing
unfortunately the fixation on drones is a fool's gamble. cyberwarfare means an army or airforce too reliant on drones could be crippled without a single shot fired at them. drones are great for supporting and tactical levels actions in the battlefield but in a strategic sense you are gonna have a hard time using them against a competent foe
I totally agree but also know DOD ain’t that dumb. Drones are a PR move. Our enemies foreign and domestic. Use every died American service members to validate their opinion. They do this by corrupting one of our greatest strengths. Freedom of press. But at the end of the day a red blooded American will always go into harms way. The day we don’t need to anymore will be the day the constitution is the only ruling power of 🌎. Many want to limit the media in hopes to solve this issue. The only problem with this the vary moment they switch from talking to doing they become a traitor. hanging traitors again in my opinion is justice. If you live outside the US then any attack and all attacks upon the constitution or its people should be met with no mercy.
Skynet is coming to fruition...
Gen ? Is an age not a Classification. F4 vs mig 21. F2/14/14/16 yf17 (f/A18 vs mig 23/ (28 if you are a top gun fan/29. Once the dips shit commie bastards collapsed. Thing slowed down. 80’s we’re about deep strike, and asset transport. Speed had reached a high in the 70’s that any faster the aircraft couldn’t be maintained. You can build it but it’s a one time use. Why the Valkyrie never went any were. Few fast flights and you have to reskin. Can’t go fast? Be unseen. Have Blue was the 1st (well the British mosquito was the 1st but Have blue was the 1st designed to defeat radar) as computers came of age and the death of math started we solved the ugly have blue (117) problem. B2 is the same yet bigger and more stable. Then came gen 5. With gen five we started talking about gen 1-4. Before it was prop age jet age, high speed jet age, and stealth age. Gen 5 is computer designed jet age and stealth age combined. Gen 6 is space and hyper speed. Now for you Hollywood people. You may have seen old maverick doing Mach 10. And think wow this is coming… we’ll it’s been around for some time we just haven’t ever been dumb enough to do it in side the Atmosphere. When in space it’s much easier. Could we do it. Maybe will a man ever travel at 10 times the speed of sound inside earths atmosphere. Likely not. The plasma that builds up prevents radio communication. One mm of being off and you dust. Why we cant talk vary well to space craft coming home. We’ve gotten better but still not great. SLAM was a Mach 3-4 low flying cruse missile but it was ify at best (why we walked away) but a nuke ify is doable. Russian accuracy is so bad they have 10 times as we do. Why aim when you can saturate. they are over coming a problem not trying to have the most. Only TH-camrs brag about the number. Like most internet scientists they are usually off the mark. Now for Drones. I see the drone argument like I see the ufo argument. it a PR thing not a reality. they fly a x-jet and a dip shit hippie sees it and says it must be a 👽, and the Air Force says yeah that’s what it was😂😂😂😂. and they don’t have to explain how safe or unsafe they are being. Drones are like this but on the other end of the spectrum. We are so powerful kill just one of us even tho you didn’t stop us from achieving the goal our media will see it as negative. So they only speak about new drones. Testing drones are safer. But if you’ve ever been in the military you should know that the 1st priority is the mission next come the troopers then equipment then civilians on the battlefield. Why civilians always get the shaft. Logic puts them at the bottom. Lots of people hate war. Yet they benefit from it. Since human records have been a thing war/prep for war has always been the leading push for advance. From concrete to the internet. It came to be cause of war. “War! what is it good for?” Well about 90% of everything you touch. Pick an item I will break down how war helped/made it be. believe it or not Dynamite is one of the few things war benefited from and not the other way around. Nobel hated war. I find it fitting his greatest achievements aided war more that any one human. Once the money flowed he was a war lord. Biggest war lord of all time has a peace prize named after him. 😂😂😂😂 stupid humans. So did he hate war, or did you just believe a dying man’s words? So what is gen 6? It’s the age of time. Anywhere on the earth in under an hr. Hawaii and New Mexico will be the jump off for 1st strikes. Some manned some unmanned. So is mavericks x-craft real. Sure it just doesn’t do it in earths Atmosphere. It goes up 1st. Bombers/strike always comes 1st fighters/interceptor 2nd attack 3rd transport 4th I think attack will be left out of gen 6. Strike will have the ability to do attack if the need arises. Strike and attack are separated by movement. If it’s fixed we call it a strike if it moves easily we attack it. Spec ops travel will be a thing as well. Just think if by 2030 we can land on mars. 2025 we can land on that continent over there. Common knowledge has always been Russia over sells (TH-cam eats this up) America undersells. Why does DOD need to tell you when Hollywood is so desperate to. Freedom of speech working. Added benefits that Hollywood is artsy but sucks at science. Thank you for muddying the waters. I’m cool with my enemy think I can shit lighting bolts. if a few-most dip shit Americas believe it too. So be it.
F-ING beautiful. The most important thing is how they are utilizing the F22 as a test bed which is, to me the smartest way to get the most out of the technology.
Twin engine jets are absolutely beautiful, and the F22 is among the foremost. I hope it and the F/A-18 Block 3 stay in service just for aesthetic purposes! Haha!
The f 18 has always looked unattractive to me. Unlike the f 15 which is a beast. F22 is much more aesthetic than the f 35. Yf 23 best looking of them all.
think the F-22 Management Office Is making the best of what it has. Everything I've heard on this and other channels supports that. Using some of the older F-22's as test beds for improving our tech advantage makes good sense.
I love the shapes from this beautiful fighter..
the first aircraft that got me interested because of star scream from transformer trilogy
We all start somewhere kiddo.
@@pimpinaintdeadho My passion were Dolphins,Baloon, Blimps, Cars and Finally Aircrafts and Singing,
I would like to became a Pilot
@@fqeagles21 Then you should focus on mathematics and physics. Physics is a very fun subject.
@@fqeagles21Thanks for sharing (I think?). Do you also enjoy romantic walks on a moonlit beach? 😂
@@pike100 yeah i'm a romantic Person too
That technical jargon overload video is the big brother of this one.
Maybe to defeat laze guided weapons? I know the Starstreak uses laser guidance. I wonder if that coating can defeat these kinds of surface to air munitions. Are there air to air missiles that use laser guidance?
If it's anything like the lasers I mess with, any change to the way the photons are propagating is almost always instantly recognizable.
Too nice video about Nowadays ( F-22 raptor 5thgeneration fighter)...as basic designs of transmission to 6th generation fighter ( NGAD projects)...which ensure & guaranteed completely skies dominate of US Airforce in Future decades...and F-22 super raptor as intermediate phase for this ambitious project...what surprises me majority of us designed weapons..are having successfully adoption to upgrades during times thanks (pilot photog) channel ...happy Sunday...I think with this upgrades to F-22 super raptor giving a new living for F-22 raptor
I have a personal hope.. I hope that the upgrades to the F-22A Raptor will be so advanced and diverse that it'll be a new model of F-22. That being the F-22B Raptor II. I've seen quite a few changes going on with those airframes so I hope it also reenters production.
Though I'm thinking this is simply the test bed for the newest fighter the US has planned.
A mirrored coating is the best solution to enemy directed energy weapons, as laser light can't damage a surface that reflects it. Such a coating might also benefit missiles and non stealth aircraft subject to directed energy weapons.
I truly wish they wouldve made the 700 or so F22's that were planned, or atleast upgrade the ones that were built. It is by far the most stealthy, beautiful & capable fighter the US has ever had. The design was just perfect in every way, from every angle👌Imagine if they received the most up-to-date electronics & software to match the F35's technology. It'll be a sad day when these legends are inevitably retired. We can only hope that a good number of them are sent to museums instead of the boneyard🥲
People are speculating that the skin is designed to reduce IR signature. Wouldn't an ultra-white coating be more effective?
I think they're trying to get ahead of laser technology by building a skin that may not be impervious to laser, but would reflect it for long enough to survive laser shot's short duration, especially when a single laser battery is put up against multiple craft flying in formation.
Not to mention, aren't most SAM systems RADAR guided? And, IR air-to-air missiles are looking at the exhaust, not the skin.
It’s such a shame the worlds greatest fighter ever created hasn’t flown a single combat mission. Then again, when you’re such a badass, who wants to test you… especially if you lose, you die.
I live in the Interior of Alaska and I get to drive by an Air Base ‘up here’. They have F-16s and F-35s assigned here and others visit regularly. I see F-22s on the flight lines and runways but like my Mother used to tell me, “Look buy don’t touch...” meaning, I may look at them but they have signs out along the highway, “No Photography”. I can’t take pictures... Some folks might be temptress to ask, “You mean you’ve never... you know? Taken a couple of photos anyway?” My answer is, “No, I haven’t... Retired Army and I Obey Orders... Even those of the Air Force.”
Didn't they have the F-117 in Alaska recently for the Northern edge ex ?
I've had a theory about the "Shiny F-22".
The previous RAM (Radar Absorbing Material) paint/coating for the Raptor has been criticized for being "fragile", ie, flaking and dissolving in rain. I'm wondering if they have developed an inexpensive version of RAM that can be rapidly applied just before mission deployment and possibly can be removed after deployment. Just a wild guess.
Speaking of wild guesses, another question I have is what is the purpose behind the "flying tic-tac" drone? I'd think its some sort of sensor/reconnaissance testbed also testing ion propulsion and likely pretty light weight. Would these drones be capable of carrying weapons or possibly be used for "kamikaze" attacks? Could they possibly be used as decoy drones to support stealth fighters/bombers possibly clouding enemy radars with multiple targets with similar cross sections?
Calm down with the ion propulsion nonsense. Of all the unbelievable things that have been stated about the drone. Using Ion propulsion that effectively inside Earth's atmosphere is probably the most unrealistic.
can confirm that the current LO paint is dogshit. theyll ground the jet in inclement weather due to the amount of maintainance after the sortie, to save man hours
Using Ion propulsion for a kamikaze drone is one of the dumbest things I think I've ever heard.
1. It's not lighter than current propulsion tech for small UAV's
2. It's far more expensive than other propulsion systems and cost is the name of the game for employing small munitions like that
3. It requires vast amounts of energy which could be used for other purposes/systems or to extend the loiter time if the vehicle was powered by an electric motor instead. That space could also be utilized in a gas-powered drone to extend the range as well
In summary, it's a terrible path forward for small UAV's because it's expensive, would degrade range/capability, and offers essentially zero benefit other than being much quieter than existing technologies
Your idea is interesting. It's a good theory, and who knows if it is adapted for practice. Some sort of superb RAM coating that will last several missions, then blasted away for recoating might indeed be cheaper and better than the current fragile RAM. Good thinking, I suggest you patent the idea at least...become a patent troll. MCI
@@Mark-lv1ub did you just sign your comment?
The F22 Raptor simbolizes the triumph of man's ingenuity over the laws of physics
I didn't realize we were still flying F-117's
They've become the villains now, I mean aggressor role to train F35 and F22 pilots
There are very key components that were already outdated once it was deployed that need to be completely re-manufactured and designed from scratch. They are also focused on 6th gen aircraft. And they already have re-designed the F-15 EX to run with F-35s. I wish the F-22 was still going to be worked on but it's not happening. I fly with many Raptor pilots at Randolph in T-38s with IFF. And they all say the same thing. Highly unlikely. And we are approaching the delivery of our new 5th and 6th Gen trainer called the T-7 Redhawk. Great video.
There is a new 6th gen fighter that is still top secret but that has clearly already been prototyped and has been in full production for at least 3 years. Bank on it.
The prototype has flown but it isn’t yet in full production. It would be too hard to hide if it were in mass production. And you don’t want to rush it before the kinks are worked out. The F-22 and F-35 are still better than anyone else’s aircraft, so there’s time to get it right.
@@bluemarlin8138 haha I replied with details and it was deleted. It's in production.
@@steveg8102 repost it, curious
F22 Raptors are great looking fighters jets love watching them flyover. Yeh a a.fly all the way ,go get them boyz and girlz.
Kinda feel like the F-22 is going the way of the F-4, still has a lot of life, but it got cut short far too early
Huh? The F-4 served for decades, and by the time it was being phased out airframes were light years past it.
Did ya hear about the drone.f4 against 4 f22s it was for practice all f22s.had to shoot all 4 of their.missles to take down.tje f4 finally btw f4 can go mach 2.6 the old.raptor stealth coating gets damaged at mach 2
Japan still flying them
@@jeanhaney2203 what???? Please speak English
One of the major issues with the F-22 is coating maintenance, which is likely why we are seeing alternatives being tested. There is also the issue of sensors from 25 years ago not being what they are today or the ability of the aircraft to share data like the F-35 can. The F-14 left early due to per hour flight cost. That's taking some of the Raptor's life, too.
It is possible the mirror coating is connected with the more recent use of laser tracking systems on anti air missiles rather than the current IR and radar homing systems used.
Perhaps it can be used to defeat or deflect the laser designators in some fashion.
When ever I tune in to your channel I am filled wth a sense of relief. As well as being a very fine information channel, in it's own right, the knowledge that the U.S produces the finest tactical air-defence/air dominance flying machines, gives me hope that my loved ones, my country and the NATO Alliance nations are supremely well protected by the might of our U.S cousins on the other side of the Pond. That, in itself, is a matter of huge relief. It must be dreadful to go to bed, not knowing what terrors await you in the night, and in the days to follow. God bless us all, that seek the correct ways in which to conduct ourselves, and address issues peacefully; resorting to military options only when forced to by evil doers.
Tim...Well if you think the USA is not an evildoer I've got a bridge to sell ya..
@@bigstuff52 Im interested in hearing your justification of the US being an "evildoer". Lets hear that fantasy about the US being the big bad
@@cameronspence4977 I'm 72 years old..I spent a year in Vietnam when I was a young man..We went in there to stop the spread of communism,"f"ed everything up and then they kicked our asses out..Just like Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Guatemala and Honduras and Tahiti and Venezuela and Chile and I think you get my drift..Look at Ukraine now..They've screwed it all up and they dragged Europe down the rabbit hole with em..
I'm fortunate enough to live near an airport that hosts an annual air show and I see the F-22 doing practice runs in the days before the show and then the 2 days of the show... so basically 3 to 4 days of a Raptor flying over my house a lot. Those suckers aren't just nimble, but they are loud. lol
A slick coating would increase speed and reduce wind resistance, but a mirror finish would reflect sunlight at certain angles and could provide a tail tail signature on visual observation.
Actually the mirror finish is thought to be a defense against visual detection. As the theory is the finish would caused the plane to blend in with the sky. There is a video on here about the F35 being seen on a carrier with the mirror finish. It stated it was most likely the next step in testing. To see how salt air and spray affect the finish.
the mirror coating significantly reduces the heat signature of the plane though (blackbody radiation weakens the more reflective a surface is), and also reflects visual and thermal light to make it more difficult to visually and thermally spot. Imagine how hard it would be to see a mirror in the woods. It also reflects light from lasers and other energy weapons.
Very well done, thank you for producing and posting. The new mirror like coatings spotted on the raptor might be for deterrence of directed energy anti aircraft weaponry perhaps?!?!?
It was originally conceived as a defence against the deadliest directed energy weapon, one that fires bolts of highly charged plasma, with devastating effects.....the Klingon Disrupter beam.
A mirror finish dissipates laser targeting spots from adhering to the surface for missiles to follow! Depending on how & where it is used, it can blend the plane to the sky colour, due to reflection!
It’s just mind boggling how close the YF-23 already was to the 6th generation concept. They would probably just be upgraded, instead of replaced so soon like the Raptor.
Well, at least, the Black Widow II will finally be vindicated as the 6th gen concept just shows how much of a superior design it had at the time.
@Master_Misanthrope ...F22 maybe older than the F35 but far superior to it across the board. F35 was not meant to replace the F22, it was meant to replace the F16. That should tell you all you need to know about it. Why do you think we never exported the F22 but exported the F35?
@Master_Misanthrope ...BTW, B52, KC135, and U2 all over 60 years old and still flying. F15 is 50 years old and F16 & F18 both over 40 years old and still flying. Why you ask? Continual upgrades keep them relevant.
Fun fact: F22 is actually more like 25 years old. First flight was 1997
The 3d model you showed reminds me of my favorite fighter plane (and possibly favorite plane period) ever, the YF-23, I think it would be smart for the US government to take the best of both the F-22 and the YF-23 and perhaps a pinch of something new design wise and new technology to make the pinnacle of air superiority fighter yet!
The F-22 is a great platform to test highly-reflective or hardened modular surfaces - most likely to deflect long-range infra red search & track or low-power laser targeting systems or even to protect sensitive parts against directed-energy weaponry. The next 6th-gen manned fighters & a slew of UCAV platforms will most likely be implementing.
I hope the f22’s lease on life gets extended, would love to see them fly for years to come, why get rid of the best fighter jet ever built, just improve upon it, and I truly don’t understand why they decreased the number of them produced, if you ask me they should add some state of the art upgrades and ramp up production again
It's all about the cost. I think the F-22's development is one of the most over-budget fighter programs ever. 700 proposed aircraft down to less than 200 suggests massive mis-management issues, but the air force was probably under contract to guarantee the purchase of the plane. Plus it's an air superiority fighter which I don't think has been in a real-world aerial engagement. Is it an impressive aircraft? Sure, but it's borderline pointless.
@@PlatinumPaladin It’s pointless until war breaks out, but yes it kinda can seem pointless because no intelligent country would actually try to go to war with the US, the thing about having the strongest military means enemies will try to beat you in every way except militarily
@@gio-ko7kf Thanks for the input, Team America. The other thing about having the strongest military is that you can always take the war to those weaker than you. Y'know, just to keep your game up.
@@PlatinumPaladin If you ever go to war with someone your equal, you've already failed.
@@paulhatala7976 That's the mentality of a bully, and arguably there are plenty examples where someone has gone to war with lesser forces and still lost.
We also have a chrome/mirror imaging F-117 thats been testing out here at our S.N.G.B. and where told N.G.out in California have been testing a 2nd mirror coated F-117.
Can you not? K thx.
@@et9120 Can you explain wtf sense your trying to make?...Ok thanks! It's like the dumb,the dense and the ignorant all rolled up in one nonsensical comment.Make sure you look up "nonsensical" cause with a comment like yours you don't know it.Smh
S.N.G.B. ?
The F22 Raptor is the best fighter in the world, way better than the F35. To retire it is sheer stupidity
Welcome to American Defense Procurement, nothing makes sense.
Yea, and YF-23 was better than raptor soo...
The fact that by congressional order this plane cannot be sold to even our closest allies says a lot. ⚡️⚡️⚡️🇺🇸
I'd take an F22 over an F35 any day
If you’re looking for an air dominance platform, then yes. The two planes have very different mission profiles. Apples and oranges my man.
Also, go watch any 2019 thru 2022 F-35 Demo. The F-35 is now full block 3F, 9G rated, and it can pull some moves you will not expect.
I have seen THIS videos many times. Great Information!
If it is, I'm sure it'll be well below budget and cost less than several hundred million dollars. What a bargain that would be!
The mirror finish are an experimental finish to protect against energy weapons. I understand it actually makes easier to find for laser guided weapons.
I still think the YF-23 was the better airframe and the NGAD mockups look more like it than the F-22 and the one thing that they cannot extend is the service life of the airframe itself!
I was thinking that very thing. Some of us wonder if the lessons learned with the YF-23 program, as it had some advantages over the 22, might have trickled up into the NGAD program and the next fighter.
23 was stealthier and the 22 more maneuverable if memory serves. I'd probably pick the 22 and save the 23 knowledge for a future design like they did.
One of the craziest aspects of the F22 is that despite being older than the F35 there are a small number of technologies that are more advanced, mainly because of secrecy and export restrictions. You don't put all your most advanced systems on an aircraft that will be exported to places where you can't ensure the operational security of those systems. What the US is partly doing right now is what they didn't want Turkey to do by acquiring the F35 and the S400, which is to improve both by gaining data that's tough to come by in actual real world scenarios. Of course you would put your 6th gen development against your most advanced fighter. They will both come out ahead.
The new raptor ------ called the velociraptor.
Codename: Blue 😉
Where is the vertical rudder in the ngad?
where is the vertical rudder on a B2?
Exactly ... where is do you know?
YF-23 was a better plane, and better looking. Air Force got bamboozled.
If only the better business developed it.
The F22 should be the next airframe for the USAF Thunderbirds. Imagine how good of a show THAT would be!
I don't think they've got a choice but to both upgrade the F-22's & try to bring forward its successor.
"Super" Raptor, that's a chilling concept.
Can't wait to see the new upgrade's in action
I love to watch a movie about the raptors
I'd bet that the mirror Finish is to reduce visual profile. Radar maybe thermal could work but a plane that reflects to sky back to your eyes is a lot harder to see
Reminds me of reflec armor of RPG game Traveler. Use to protect from laser weapons.
@@barnoldbbb that's pretty much the whole idea, anti-laser
OMG I SAW ONE OF THESE IN HAWAII AND A F16 WAS CHASING IT. I think this is super cool man thanks for all the information
Thank you for the awesome content not going to lie I thought you were much younger based on the sound of your voice , anyway thanks again 👍
Thank you I appreciate that, and thanks for commenting!
The "mirror" coating is in fact translucent, from some angles you can see the marking on the wing of the plane and from others it looks like a mirror.
"Flavour ordinance"... 🤣🤣🤣 good stuff!
Can the plumbing and pylons be retracted once the fuel tanks are jettisoned to maintain stealthiness??
Congress told the airforce they couldn’t retire the older ones. From what I was reading they was told to upgrade and get them combat ready
The mirror-like finish could help reduce the infra-red signature as you said. However, it potentially could also be a countermeasure to laser weapons. The NGAD may carry a laser. 🤔
you got it
It makes sense to use the F-22. Our top dog for a position leading a drone squadron. Essentially they will be like knights at some point
One thing the new coating could be useful for, is protection from laser based weapons. A stated goal of 6th gen aircraft is to be able to use lasers. A silver reflective coating would reduce the effectiveness of laser weapons.
We need more fantastic fighters like the Raptor .... not less. It is always too expensive to keep the F-22 when you want the newest candy in the candy store. We very well may need both by the time the 30's roll in. Ohh well I won't be here so it's not my problem. Good Luck y'all.
When is their replacements coming out? Ive heard it would be just as efficient to come up with a new bird than start up f22 assembly lines.
The king of the sky.
I've been watching raptors flying over me all morning