Don't Waste Money Buying A Crappy GMT! (watch this first)
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Truth be told, you can wear an office GMT while travelling
LIESSSS!!!
As a german, I assume there is a law for that, so I won't do it.
Lol
agreed. I travel frequently, and I just use the GMT hand on my caller GMT as the main hour hand for the country I am in. I also use the 24hr rehaut AND the 24hr bezel to track a third time zone.
The problem with “traveler” GMTs is there is often no quickset date and that can be a pain if you don’t wear the watch all the time.
A quartz traveler's GMT does not have this problem.
A smooth, highbeat affordable traveler GMT movement is the Miyota 9075 found in recent Bulova and Jack Mason releases.
Traska has also made an amazing internal bezel gmt with this movement for around $700
I’m sure many more will be coming out over the year. Can’t wait for micro brands to grab them and make some neat products
@@sushaantsiingh9106 wow i just checked it out and it’s beautiful. Thanks for leading to that one mate
I know Miyota recently put out a true gmt movement lately.
I’m an airline pilot and I have both in mycollection (tudor,mido, Glycine, Foliot and a coworker made company branded gmt with the nh34). biggest time zone change I deal with is 3 hours so if I’m wearing a caller I just do the math or rotate the bezel. It’s really not a big deal. The least fussy gmt (technically a 24 hour watch) I own and low key favorite is my Glycine DC-4. I set the outer bezel and done. I look down and I’ve got eastern time, gmt and with some quick mental math for the time zone change I’m good to go.
Yes. That's what I've been saying for years. I wouldn't bother spending the extra money on a traveler GMT when I haven't left my time zone in over 20 years. Although, if that changed and I suddenly found myself traveling a lot, I'd look into the Bulova Wilton GMT. A traveler GMT for well under 1K. Wow! Thanks for another great video. 👍😎
The same Miyota 9075 movement in the Bulova Wilton GMT is also used in the brand-new Zeppelin Atlantic GMT for about $500.
maybe you don't even need a GMT at all.......since you don't travel outside your own timezone
I'm so glad you did this video, as I'm looking to get myself a GMT. Now I know the difference between GMT functions, and I get to learn about the unique double bezel Aerotec. That makes tracking unusual timezones so much easier.
This wasn’t new to me (the title was a tad misleading) but easily the best explanation I have ever heard on the topic. I wish it had been presented to me like this year ago,
Jory just gave a masterclass in GMT watches! Very nice!
Me, with my Casio A500 World Timer: “Oh, you track only 2 time zones? That’s cute…”
Love my Seiko Présage SARF012 traveler's GMT.
Learned about that series on your channel!!!
As always, a great video!!!
I use my GMTs to track a second time zone so it really doesn’t matter if they’re office or traveller GMTs. The GMT hand will always show the secondary time.
Either way you'll have more than enough time on the plane to set both.
Great explanation!
I used to have a job that required me to know what Zulu time it was. I also occasionally traveled to another time zone for 4 months at a time, & it was helpful to know what time it was back home, too. My office GMT watch was perfect for these needs! Of course…a G-Shock did it just as well.
It really should just be traveler GMT vs caller GMT. Calling one "true" is a complete misnomer, and only really exists since Rolex wants theirs to be the "true" one.
The term "true GMT" is most often used by social media influencers and some watch sellers. Watch and watch movement manufactures do not generally use the term. I use a caller (jumping GMT hand) GMT watch to track the time zone of my son who lives in another continent. If I were a traveller, I would use a traveller (jumping hour hand) GMT watch.
Terrific video!
Well done. Thanks.
Thanks for the education. I never new the difference between these two types mainly because I've never been interested in GMT watches at all but I like to learn.
It’s funny you post this the day after I receive my Seiko SSK001. Also I haven’t been on the channel in a while and the intro caught me off guard 😂
Great explanation
Thank you for this.
They both look nice. The Timex Iron Man does a few time zones ...but should I worry if somebody in an office I work in is not impressed:? Jeez
The last time I travelled (2020) I used my GA-2100 on a rubber strap as my main watch and GMT. That being said, I own the Omega SMP 300 GMT (1998) and a Longines Zulu Time. I will bring them along when I fly to Georgia later this year. But the GShock is a must!
There is another type of GMT called an "original GMT" which is the type that the original Rolex GMT Master was from 1954-1984. This type has the 24 hour hand slaved to the 12 hour hand in a fixed ratio. The way to track a second time zone is by rotating the bezel.
A traveler's GMT uses a more complicated mechanism to adjust the hour hand and the date (which can go backwards when crossing the international dateline). The office GMT uses an add-on to the regular date mechanism.
Is that actually true? its actually a more complicated mechanism, thus more expensive, thus more prestigious, or its all snobism about true GMT being better? 🤔
@@BOBGAR6 The caller GMT is better at tracking the time in a remote office, the traveler GMT is better when you visit that office. "Better" means nothing more than "you don't have to adjust the minute or second hand" here. It's not a value judgment.
I have both styles but rarely travel out of State so, I get the most use from my Office GMT's.
Depending on the project I'm working on, I'll set the GMT hand to the Midwest or East coast for communication purposes with my coworkers in those regions.
Thank U Jory ( U truly are a good man )for clarifying this issue..!
Interesting, thanks 👍
An excellent unbiased comparison. Well done keeping it real Jory.
@@doperdr I don't own a GMT, so your sense of smell is off.
@@doperdr Um...he showed no bias? He was impartial. Seems simple enough to me.
Shhhhhhhh dont say that word around jory. I did once and he made a 3 video rant with other watch reviews. Biased is a no no word for him even if you put un in front of it
@@dennisbroekhoven6367 I guess I'll say whatever I like. Whether Jory likes what I say, or not, is a matter for him.
2022 seeing the arrival of multiple traveler gmts that are more affordable has shaken things up a bit. It does feel harder to justify some caller gmts that cost more than some of the new traveler gmts
The GMT I am planning to get is a mido ocean star.
Caller GMTs are what fit me as a streamer and content creator. Generally I find the caller or a 12 hour bezel more useful to me.
Nice informative video ... these days, with phone apps that can tell different times in one screen, any type of GMT watch is ok :). Thanks to Seiko (office) and Citizen (true), GMT movements are now available to many watchmakers and more affordable pieces can be made. It's nice to have an automatic GMT in rotation.
In my old office, we had several clocks on the wall with different times for different zones. In the new office, this was replaced with a big screen that showed the time. Time waits for no one, must adapt :)
I don't travel a lot, but I do work with teams on different time zones. I've been looking at caller GMT's but I want one that can track 3 time zones (rotating bezel + 24hr chapter ring). The options are not that many and I'm thinking in building my own with an NH34 base
Thanks for the info, the traveller/office makes a lot more sense than true/caller now.
Nice video
Can you do a review on the big idea design Ti field watch? I like it but don’t know if it’s a good choice for the money.
I hope you get your hands on Jack Mason GMT with the new miyota
Movement for a review.
If you want a watch which is functionally perfect for traveling, buy Longines Conquest VHP GMT. So easy to adjust time zones while tracking your home time. I have JLC Master Control Geographic (even better than “true GMT”), Omega Aqua Terra (independently adjustable hour hand), and several cheaper caller GMTs. But Longines is my number one choice for traveling.
Stian from Vintage Watch Services gave you a nice shoutout on today's Tudor Oyster Prince restore vid at 19:25....
I have been able to find both the travel GMT and the office GMT for around the same amount of money. I wound up purchasing the Ball Marine which is an office GMT but Ball also makes the Pilot which is a traverse GMT for the same money.
Interesting Lee I have never seen Jory review a BALL watch of any kind. I think if you like small brands that are spec monsters at a fair price they are definitely a brand to look at. With a American heritage and Swiss manufacturing.
You can only advance the hour hand on the Rolex Explorer right?
Can you do a review the new citizen chronograph Carson is it any good ???
My Grand Seiko is a true GMT and I really wouldn't mind if it were an office one, as Im more interested in tracking a 2nd time zone than I get to travel.
Especially because it also has a date complication, which is a pain to reset on a true GMT, due to the inherent crown setting.
And then there is the the Casio Royale, the best traveler's watch and for less than $25.
A traveler's GMT can only be convenient when both the GMT hand and the hour hand indicating the home time. Then when you travel, just move the hour hand to the new local time, and the GMT hand tracks the home time. But when you are not traveling and have set the GMT hand to another time zone, you have to adjust the GMT hand to the home time zone and the hour hand to the new local time zone when you travel.
So, I think a true GMT suits people who spend more time on travel than staying in their hometown. I don’t think they are many people like that. So it’s not that convenient or ideal than we think.
I’m not trying to disrespect anyone but just a thought I noticed😅
Is the GMT a 24h hand?
I'll admit it. I'm a sucker for "true" GMT movements but they are always on the expensive side. There is also a flaw in the ETA movement that nobody is talking about. It's quite weird because there are thousands of watch snobs. When jumping the hour hand on the MIDO or the slightly modified LONGINES the GMT hand wobbles. I find that at least not good. On the much more affordable Miyota 9075 movement everything works fine. Take a look at the new BOLDR GMT reviews. I'm patiently waiting for a Citizen release with the 9075 movement. I hope they're working on it. I'm out of topic. Anyway a GMT complication either true or office is very useful. Much more than a plain diving watch. Everybody should have one. Great video as always.
Just bought my Traska Traveler GMT. I've never lived another watch as much and I have watches that cost much more than $600 , what i paid for my Traska, a True GMT.
I like my Certina traveler GMT C032.429.11.051.00 with 80h power reserve for around 950$. Mine runs even within COSC specification. Why pay ten times more?
In this economy more workers live and work in one location but need to sync with another location, like their company’s head office, or overseas development center location. The office travelers GMT is now obsolete from another era.
Least useful complication for a narcissist like me who doesn’t GAF about any other time zones except for the one that I’m in.
Don't travel much at all so I went with a caller due to having family still in EST when I'm in PST.
As others have already pointed out, you definitely should at least mention the lack of quickset date on Traveller GMTs. For me, the utility of quickset date trumps that of jumping hour hand.
lack of reasoning is overwhelming here.
quickset date cannot be reversed which is very important feature of true gmt watches.
also you can break the movement if you try to change dates between 11pm to 3am if its quickset.
"An overwhelming lack of reasoning" might be a little strong there now. Surely my preference for one feature of a mechanical watch over a different but very similar feature can hardly be construed as an overwhelming lack of reasoning. But yes, there are certainly pros and cons to both mechanisms.
Antiquated technology, long ago superseded by quartz movements.
It is not "true" it is travelers gmt vs office gmt. True gmt refers to the fact that Zulu time is zero or true zero (UTC). Both gmts are the same in function different only in how complicated mech is. In both options you set GMT hand on UTC/GMT time and then use the hands and/or bezel to know local time and (home/foreign office time)... end of story.. GMT hand is set one and done to UTC (this is a practical need of pilots cause they talk time as UTC+/-). So how you set local time is the only difference... and honestly if you travel t zone which is not a full hour difference it is easier to do it on an office gmt... also it is cheaper... also it is less complicated so it breaks less... cost of service less... think about it
The traveller GMT are more expensive because the way the hour hand is connected to the main gear train (the organs that provide time regulations to the hands) is more complex than the other, just this.
My phone does the same thing and so much more
Spoken like a true millennial
@@lonewolfemcquade8133 okay
Seems like a world timer would cover both types. Plus, they are far more interesting.
Just get a Tag Heuer Aquaracer Calibre 7 GMT Batman. Excellent entry level GMT!
You must review the Gavox Longitude ! À true GMT Watch with the 9075 mvmt.
(With a soft price) 😉
Have you considered doing a video on non-GMT watches that have an independently adjustable hour hand?
have you considered the fact that those watches have gmt movements without a gmt hand so the watchmaker doesnt have to make different movements.
@@doperdr Do you know where I can find a list of non-GMT watches, of many different brands, that have an independently adjustable hour hand?
@@lewiskreisler3106 many luminors have individually adjustable hour hand connected to datewheel. that also give protection to the movement from and breakage if someone forgets and tries to adjust time between 11pm and 3 am
@@lewiskreisler3106 my Certina DS Podium chrono is not the GMT version but does have an independently adjustable hour hand that will step the date backwards if you turn it that way. Makes it easy to adjust time zones when traveling and I don't really care about GMT. Watch snobs won't like it because it's a quartz movement. But the benefit is that I usually only have to skip one day a few times a year because it doesn't stop and go off many days like a manual would if you don't wear it all the time. Also, the accuracy is pretty good, it only goes off about 2 seconds per year. So I hack the second hand every 6 months or so and I'm good.
If you ONLY have one watch and its a gmt, get a "true" gmt. If you have multiple watches, and cant be effed to scroll thru the time to set the date, get a (few) caller GMTs
I bought a NH34A movement and assamble one watch using Aliexpress parts
First of all, the days of "true" GMTs carrying a substantially higher price tag than caller GMTs are numbered, especially with the advent of the Miyota 9075. Unless you're someone like a pilot who's constantly moving back and forth between different time zones every day, it's not like it's a serious pain to update the time on a caller GMT. For the occasional business traveler, or someone who's just on vacation, the hassle of losing the quick-set date on a "true" GMT would likely far outweigh the utility of the jumping hour hand.
Why does the headline say "Don't Waste Money on a Crappy GMT" when the video says traveler and caller types of GMT are "both perfectly fine"? What are the crappy GMTs to which the title refers?
I'm not a pilot or a sea captain. Caller or 12 hour bezel for me.
Both types of GMT still won't work if you travel to India, Nepal and South Australia
30 min and 15 min times zones. What were they thinking?
Casio Royale help me to read 5 time zone, easily...
Unless you’re the most interesting man in the world traveling different time zones getting into Amazon adventures on a daily bases, collar gmt is the way to go.
The GMT debate is solved somewhat by the names...I don't need to track 3 TZs on my watch, so a caller allows me to track my local time and set it for E. Aus time for my development team...in other words...I'm a caller...if I was traveling like I used to, I could see a true GMT, but I don't need to track Zulu time because it's meaningless for my current use case.
Unless you travel to Tehran Iran because they are also off by 30 minutes. (I'm not going anytime anyway ever!)
Great video - just wished you'd said "GMT" a few more times 🤣😂 one thing you didn't mention is why they are called "GMT" ?
I would just use a cheap quartz watch to show home time and wear the "nice" watch to show local time. I have 50 watches but no GMT.
Neither type of gmt is crappy, just different
So, I should watch this…. THEN buy a crappy GMT Watch?🤪
Is a traveller GMT more difficult/expensive to make than a caller?
yes, more parts and complicated thus more expensive, could break more and more expensive to fix or service... function is the same, it is just how you set local time...and travel to a half hour time zone, and already an office gmt is better than traveller
@@scoutmisha Thanks, I didn't know that.
"the best type of GMT is the dual time. Skeletor will return next week with more upsetting opinions" - Skeletor
This is going to be the go-to GMT explanation on TH-cam.
That red thing may be the ugliest watch I’ve ever seen .
Funny, I was going to say the prettiest
There is no such thing as a "true" GMT. It's either a GMT watch, or it isn't, and there are just different types of GMT watches.
just buy a Casio Worldtimer, problem solved.
That's a Rona virus GMT
Why Gmt I can just ask Google. Lol 😆 🤣
GMT complication is redundant.
cant believe people actually think they need it instead of adding and subtracting few numbers.
hopefully no dickhead shows up with an argument oh you dont even need a watch because you have a phone
So in the end just pick which you like better. Wasted time watching this.
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True, Traveller GMT hour hand work so well when you travel to a place that is different by 1.5 hours (i.e. Mumbai)? I think not.
If you get a rolex
You can keep it for 5 years
Then punt the rolex for the same price or maybe more you got it for.
hahahah I finally get it after tons of videos