@@gmkgoat Bad part is this pretty much what most of the community, at least on the sub reddit and discord seemed to have wanted the THammer to do. Now that we have this? Very unlikely we get this. THammer will also remain mediocre until they make changes to fix its none empowered attacks/give the empowered attacks some kind of cleave or momentum. Hell I'm not even sure the Cursher is that decent either. Its definelty a capable weapon but is it on par with things like the Power Sword or Force Sword? Definitely not. Which is pretty shit when you considering the zealot is supposed to basically be melee dps and the best melee weapons are locked to other classes.
@@landsman420 attack speed, hit patterns. Axes will kill armor faster especially in a horde since you can choose targets easier. All the swords attack fast enough to deal with killing hordes faster even if they offer less CC. Dagger and Tacaxe trade hoarding for higher base crit to make the bleed build function. Even if the thunderhammer was given aoe, it wouldn't shoot to the top of the weapon list. What people were asking for was for it to cleave through everything that wasn't an elite or special and *then* AOE once it hits them. Which is just clearly overturned armchair developer bullshit.
Holy fuck, this is enthralling gameplay. First off, I didn't realize the maul special's stagger explosion was THAT big. You can do SO much more crowd control than I thought. Secondly, your movement and prioritization is immaculate. THIS is the kind of Zealot I aim to be. Beautiful work, fellow servant of the Emperor. Him on Terra would be proud to have you as his Hammer.
the powe paul is very reminiscent of the flaming flail in vt2, same strengths and weaknesses, similar attack pattern, has the explosive special attack thingy etc. i think its good that darktide is pulling from the strengths of the previous games.
17:39 When I heard this during my run as a zealot (I had subtitles turned off) I swear I thought I heard the psyker saying "bussin...bussin...bussin". Almost had me falling out of my chair via facepalm. 😅
That first clip was painful to watch lmao. Idk if you've taken the crusher to the psychanium yet, but the empowered light attack is terrible and the knockback on it will throw enemies behind you, which is why you almost died in that corner. The empowered heavy is very good for single target though. Nowhere near as good as thunder hammer or eviscerator, but it staggers anything, even bulwarks. You can also do a light>heavy or push attack>heavy combo for horde clear or heavy>light for single target. But it does next to no damage to carapace armor unless you empower it. Overall the crusher has an amazing moveset, but the blessings for it are really bad, which is really all that holds it back from being competitive with eviscerator or combat blade.
I just downloaded darktide yesterday been playing all night as ogryn and psyker just made a zealot about to level him I feel like I'd like him more since he's melee oriented but I like those three classes the most
amazing save, impressive as always. Two quick questions why do you crouch when sidestepping a charging mutant, and could you show keybind setup at some point? ❤
Crouching carries the momentum of the dodge a bit further, but always do the crouch AFTER the dodge. Hopefully it doesn’t get patched out, but it probably won’t as it probably counts as a slide
Think of it like a habit. And I feel like I'm more likely to be successful if I squat down and then dodge. I have crouch set to the side key on my mouse.
funny you say that because it has faster attacks and a shit ton of stagger, it's kind of a better thunderhammer even if the special does less damage. the amount of CC that also doesn't leave you open to counter attacks is nice
I've been unwell and unable to play Darktide since launch so I like to live through your videos :) Though I'd certainly not be anywhere near as good. This club looks cool! A bit less commitment to the charge up attack than with the thunder hammer but clearly less powerful
I mean its a CC tool above all else. CC is much more valuable in heresy and damnation, but it also means that its especially important that you have teammates that do actual damage efficiently. 7:30 pretty much summed up what it felt like to use the maul in heresy w/ endless horde. A lot of the time u just spam the special to keep the horde (and every elite inside it) permastunned while your teammates clean up the mess. So it really comes down to if u wanna do a CC-focused build.
I know I'm late to respond but better now than never. After you get a good thunder hammer legit you will probably never touch this thing again so ya wouldent reccomend it beyond malace difficulty at all
this weapon would work if it didnt step on the thunder hammers toes. they should nerf the damage and rename it the "two handed shock maul", making it a pure crowd control weapon. then buff the thunder hammers damage and voila. one for single target damage and one for crowd control.
5 times harder than with my build. I salute you, sir. If you want to experience easy mode damnation use Mk5 axe with Brutal Momentum 3+. You're welcome.
I tried this weapon and I think just spamming heavy attacks with the Thunder Hammer is more reliable against hordes than it. Am I doing something wrong?
Power -> LA -> (dodge) HA. Throw some block push and more dodges in there. I mean you saw the video, If you play it like that it’s a very strong versatile weapon.
Good gameplay but man, is the Crusher underwhelming. Weirdly enough even though the Power Maul has a far more awkward moveset I've found it to be much more viable, not to mention it has pretty damn good single-target DPS, not as good as Thunder Hammer but surprisingly better than the Crusher all things considered. At least Crusher is a bit better at anti-horde with its horizontal Light 1, I suppose that's the big difference between the two, but if I could pick I'd rather have the Crusher on Ogryn, and the Power Maul on Zealot. As it stands I think Crusher is in a weird spot, since Thunder Hammer does better single target DPS especially if you Special -> Light -> QQ to reset the animation and does better horde-clear (albeit worse crowd control).
@@sundowner8326 this is a remark against the thunderhammer. I'd rather roleplay a thunderhammer with the crusher than use the in-game thunderhammer. I thought this would be easy to infer when I wrote it, but it seems not
Yes and no, there is no temp hp cushion so hordes and melee in general are more dangerous as every single melee will go through shields a bit, so if you trade too much on hordes you will just die to chip damage eventually. Enemies have much better hitboxes though (especially ragers vs zerkers) and not dealing with p2p in year of our lord 2022 helps more than you'd expect, fatshark servers aren't always amazing but on average I'm getting much better experience that I had with random hosts in vermintide. Though I have heard its different for people who are further away from fatshark servers.
This dude is making it look easy, but it's hard as fuck on damnation. Especially since this game has more special enemy types and a better mix of ranged and melee unlike vermintide 2.
you really have luck doesnt spawn like 3 trappers in the middle of the horde or another specials. there is not much... value of this gameplay. gj you can use a keyboard.
Well kinda cheap ass powerhammer from china. Honestly AOE it shit becaue hammer can do even better with swings AND it doesnt have AP and Elite killing potential like hammer so. Btw ogrin variant works better. ALSO i wish we didnt need to ON power every hit but HIT every timme we click or hold that button its kinda annoying to do this every time. I can understand it for saw but man.
Kinda wish the Crusher's stagger from powerfield explosion was also available on the Thunderhammer.
When I saw the entire horde stumble back after a single activated swing of the Crusher, I knew the T Hammer had been robbed.
what thunderhammer could've been
though guess im glad we got options for both
@@gmkgoat Bad part is this pretty much what most of the community, at least on the sub reddit and discord seemed to have wanted the THammer to do. Now that we have this? Very unlikely we get this. THammer will also remain mediocre until they make changes to fix its none empowered attacks/give the empowered attacks some kind of cleave or momentum. Hell I'm not even sure the Cursher is that decent either. Its definelty a capable weapon but is it on par with things like the Power Sword or Force Sword? Definitely not. Which is pretty shit when you considering the zealot is supposed to basically be melee dps and the best melee weapons are locked to other classes.
But then why would you take anything else but the Thunderhammer? Kills the variety
@@landsman420 attack speed, hit patterns.
Axes will kill armor faster especially in a horde since you can choose targets easier.
All the swords attack fast enough to deal with killing hordes faster even if they offer less CC.
Dagger and Tacaxe trade hoarding for higher base crit to make the bleed build function.
Even if the thunderhammer was given aoe, it wouldn't shoot to the top of the weapon list.
What people were asking for was for it to cleave through everything that wasn't an elite or special and *then* AOE once it hits them. Which is just clearly overturned armchair developer bullshit.
The crusher really is one of the weapons ever created
Yes, it sure was created.
It was founded, watch your word unless you want to be executed for techno heresy
@@zer00rdie Indeed it is one of many weapons created for the game.
@@Specopleader Astonishing how created it was, really.
2:05 ticking starts and you can see the panic of trying not to be near those ledges :D that's prime place for darktide space program.
Holy fuck, this is enthralling gameplay. First off, I didn't realize the maul special's stagger explosion was THAT big. You can do SO much more crowd control than I thought. Secondly, your movement and prioritization is immaculate. THIS is the kind of Zealot I aim to be. Beautiful work, fellow servant of the Emperor. Him on Terra would be proud to have you as his Hammer.
Man the pro moves and clutch of your gameplays, awesome to watch as always chocob!
the powe paul is very reminiscent of the flaming flail in vt2, same strengths and weaknesses, similar attack pattern, has the explosive special attack thingy etc. i think its good that darktide is pulling from the strengths of the previous games.
17:39 When I heard this during my run as a zealot (I had subtitles turned off) I swear I thought I heard the psyker saying "bussin...bussin...bussin". Almost had me falling out of my chair via facepalm. 😅
Always displaying excellent skills! Well done, Thumbs UP!
nice video bro - glad you've made it here from V2... both great games.
Oh yeah baby the power maul, who's hitting who now heretic captains?
That first clip was painful to watch lmao. Idk if you've taken the crusher to the psychanium yet, but the empowered light attack is terrible and the knockback on it will throw enemies behind you, which is why you almost died in that corner. The empowered heavy is very good for single target though. Nowhere near as good as thunder hammer or eviscerator, but it staggers anything, even bulwarks. You can also do a light>heavy or push attack>heavy combo for horde clear or heavy>light for single target. But it does next to no damage to carapace armor unless you empower it. Overall the crusher has an amazing moveset, but the blessings for it are really bad, which is really all that holds it back from being competitive with eviscerator or combat blade.
I like the Crusher. Zealot’s best weapon for dealing with Bulwarks IMO.
I just downloaded darktide yesterday been playing all night as ogryn and psyker just made a zealot about to level him I feel like I'd like him more since he's melee oriented but I like those three classes the most
Love hitting things with a giant stick. Really fires my suppressed ancient monkey neurons of just, "Mm yes stick good"
This crusher stuns people for a thousand years.
Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge I've seen and learned today, oh... and purge. ^^
This man really has faith. Standing alone against thousand heretics.
That bomber is secretly a loyalist
The clutch at the beginning was worth the watch as is.
1:21 people play like this and say this is why zealot is the clutch class 😂
amazing save, impressive as always. Two quick questions why do you crouch when sidestepping a charging mutant, and could you show keybind setup at some point? ❤
for style points
If you crouch while dodging in a direction, you will slide in that direction and move further.
Crouching carries the momentum of the dodge a bit further, but always do the crouch AFTER the dodge.
Hopefully it doesn’t get patched out, but it probably won’t as it probably counts as a slide
Think of it like a habit. And I feel like I'm more likely to be successful if I squat down and then dodge. I have crouch set to the side key on my mouse.
How do u make those slides so smooth like that? Hard to explain what i mean by that
Still haven't seen this thing once in the store.
Thank you for inspiring me to give this one a go.
what a amazing Clutch
The maul looks floaty. Kinda wish it attacks had more weight to them (slower attacks but more power & stagger)
funny you say that because it has faster attacks and a shit ton of stagger, it's kind of a better thunderhammer even if the special does less damage. the amount of CC that also doesn't leave you open to counter attacks is nice
can stagger up to 4 ogryns close together where as the thunder hammer could stagger 1 and have to do the long as recovery animation.
damn that was a hell of a run gg
I've been unwell and unable to play Darktide since launch so I like to live through your videos :)
Though I'd certainly not be anywhere near as good. This club looks cool! A bit less commitment to the charge up attack than with the thunder hammer but clearly less powerful
hey folks, would you guys recommend investing in Crusher ? ( for malice/heresy runs )
I mean its a CC tool above all else. CC is much more valuable in heresy and damnation, but it also means that its especially important that you have teammates that do actual damage efficiently. 7:30 pretty much summed up what it felt like to use the maul in heresy w/ endless horde. A lot of the time u just spam the special to keep the horde (and every elite inside it) permastunned while your teammates clean up the mess. So it really comes down to if u wanna do a CC-focused build.
I know I'm late to respond but better now than never. After you get a good thunder hammer legit you will probably never touch this thing again so ya wouldent reccomend it beyond malace difficulty at all
Hey chocoB! What you think about new zealot weapon?
The Emperor is proud of your Duty, Shouty
lol, that mutant around 31:00 xD
Uhhh can someone explain to me that really long chastise the wicked at the very beginning????
Introducing an overpowering game breaking fun removing weapon into the game. Classic fatshark move
why is power up faster on 2h then on 1h for Ogryn?
Yeah, it really makes the Ogryn version almost useless. I feel utterly gimped when using it.
19:52 Lonher ?
I finally get a pc next week and can finally play!!!
Looks like just a slightly better t-hammer?
You are worthy to serve the Emperor!
I tryed this weapon so many times but I just don't like the mechanic of perma special+light
this weapon would work if it didnt step on the thunder hammers toes.
they should nerf the damage and rename it the "two handed shock maul", making it a pure crowd control weapon.
then buff the thunder hammers damage and voila.
one for single target damage and one for crowd control.
This is a mighty bonk stick.
What are your specs, settings and resolution?
crusher is best. u can clear like 10 melee elites at once with this thingy without trouble.
That second sniper scared me lol
5 times harder than with my build. I salute you, sir. If you want to experience easy mode damnation use Mk5 axe with Brutal Momentum 3+. You're welcome.
Thunder Hammers still stronger :) at least this gives a more AOE focus for gameplay variety!
I tried this weapon and I think just spamming heavy attacks with the Thunder Hammer is more reliable against hordes than it. Am I doing something wrong?
Power -> LA -> (dodge) HA. Throw some block push and more dodges in there. I mean you saw the video, If you play it like that it’s a very strong versatile weapon.
does crouching before dodging make avoiding muties easier?
no he might be doing it to slide out of the way
Good gameplay but man, is the Crusher underwhelming. Weirdly enough even though the Power Maul has a far more awkward moveset I've found it to be much more viable, not to mention it has pretty damn good single-target DPS, not as good as Thunder Hammer but surprisingly better than the Crusher all things considered.
At least Crusher is a bit better at anti-horde with its horizontal Light 1, I suppose that's the big difference between the two, but if I could pick I'd rather have the Crusher on Ogryn, and the Power Maul on Zealot.
As it stands I think Crusher is in a weird spot, since Thunder Hammer does better single target DPS especially if you Special -> Light -> QQ to reset the animation and does better horde-clear (albeit worse crowd control).
Oh man, thats DIRTY
So much armor at the start!
This is called RE-USED ASSETS
I thought the Crusher was not so great, but I guess I was wrong.
Kinda wish we could get a thunderhammer skin for the crusher...
Thunderhammers are already a thing tho??
@@sundowner8326 this is a remark against the thunderhammer. I'd rather roleplay a thunderhammer with the crusher than use the in-game thunderhammer. I thought this would be easy to infer when I wrote it, but it seems not
@@Cain3697 Why the fuck would you want to use a worse thunder hammer and pretend it's a thunder hammer when the thunderhammer is *already a thing*
Well, technically it’s not a weapon, rather an oversized cattleprod 😂
After watching this, I think sending your Paypal link to your dead teammates after the game would be entirely justified.
Thunder Hammer fan vs Crusher enjoyer 😈
Why not pick up the script at the beginning??
Berry gud
This game looks far more forgiving than Vermintide 2
Yeah, they toned down a little with Vermintide 2's bullshit.
You shure mate? How you experienced just shit ton of trappers, hounds and mutants chasing your butt?
Yes and no, there is no temp hp cushion so hordes and melee in general are more dangerous as every single melee will go through shields a bit, so if you trade too much on hordes you will just die to chip damage eventually. Enemies have much better hitboxes though (especially ragers vs zerkers) and not dealing with p2p in year of our lord 2022 helps more than you'd expect, fatshark servers aren't always amazing but on average I'm getting much better experience that I had with random hosts in vermintide. Though I have heard its different for people who are further away from fatshark servers.
This dude is making it look easy, but it's hard as fuck on damnation. Especially since this game has more special enemy types and a better mix of ranged and melee unlike vermintide 2.
This game is infinitely harder than VT2 because of the ranged units and no temp health.
That weapons looks incredibly boring and underwhelming 😂
Wdym? It's a CC machine.
Meh weapon. Nice cc but rather get a psyk who spams lightning and get a weapon who actually kills stuff
doom slayer
you really have luck doesnt spawn like 3 trappers in the middle of the horde or another specials. there is not much... value of this gameplay. gj you can use a keyboard.
busted weapon
Well kinda cheap ass powerhammer from china. Honestly AOE it shit becaue hammer can do even better with swings AND it doesnt have AP and Elite killing potential like hammer so. Btw ogrin variant works better. ALSO i wish we didnt need to ON power every hit but HIT every timme we click or hold that button its kinda annoying to do this every time. I can understand it for saw but man.
Placing red skulls above stronger enemy types is just a lame handicap
You think players shouldn't be able to tag special enemies?
You could do the same exact thing in Vermintide 2
It’s just a way to simulate callouts lol. You could mark enemies in v2 too.
Ty for demonstration. I will never pick this garbage weapon.