The purpose of Jason’s test was to see if you could make those in tolerance without a fixture table because one of his viewers said he didn’t need a 10k table to make those. So, Jimbo see how you do without the table.
That is my observation as well. Build it without the table and see how you go. Before fixture tables came about that is how we fabricated and all was in tolerance and spec. Making and shipping stuff out of tolerance is just lazy workmanship.
Also, I might add....you chose to badmouth the contestants right at the beginning for sending work out, out of spec. You chose to build out of spec. by ignoring the thickness spec. WhaaWhat was that?!
Well no. He didn't ask for them to not use fixture table. So your a bit off. But the overall takeaway WAS how the fixture table makes such a difference.
And Jason did it In a way that wasn't rude or badmouthing, just a showcase of the advantages of a fixture table. Now I can almost assue you if those other welding shops knew they were going to be judged by millions they'd have worked a bit harder to maintain flatness.
I agree you don't need that kind of table to do what he did, I would not need that table to do this. Many ways you could secure that with out special table, and actually the way he did do it in my opinion was way over kill. Good job non the less.
well done Jim. Jason is a fantastic fabricator / educator. yes he sells fixture equipment, so yes he will be pitching his products. i dont think that takes away from the validity of the message. fixture tables allow better, faster, repeatable work...they just do. now as for "baiting" the fab shops....they were given plans with tolerance callouts....there's no bait. either they didn't read the plans or didn't care to check the parts. if you watch more fireball videos youll see his teenage son with limited shop exp setup the jig and go to town building " in spec" parts. the whole point was to illustrate the professional results are easier to achieve with fixtures. honestly if youve been in the market for a welding table and considered the options...fireball makes a damn fine table, probably one of the best money can buy. solid cast top machined on 5 sides vs interlocking grid such as the certiflat and the like. ive settled on a primeweld solid cast table. lowest price on a solid table shipped to your door.
I wish I could chop it up with you when you come by my work…I work at the metal supply store you pick up your metal at. I’m one of the welders there, I did get a chance to say talk to you when I first started there but yeah I know your busy haha, I still watch your videos to help me learn…I found your channel when I first got into welding back in 2019…and I still watch your videos to this day, infinite amount of knowledge and tips just by watching you work in your shop…Thanks Jimbo 👍🏾
No. That was the conclusion There was no instructions to not use a fixture table. So the original welders could have used one. Considering they most likely used some sort of table to weld them. They weren't instructed to weld without a table.
I have had my table for almost a year now and the difference in production is night and day, We did put out quality products before the table but the ability to set up a jig and repeatedly produce has been a game changer, my apprentice even commented the other day that she was amazed at how much easier jobs have been since the addition of our table. On another note, what brand are your self adjusting clamps ? I have a bunch of those but mine aren't self adjusting. Have a great Thanksgiving and I wish you the best. Chris at T-Town Welding and Fabrication
How come you don't use the holes and table fixtures to set the dimensions of the frame first? Isn't the table grid more accurate then the tape measure? Jason says you should set up the fixtures first and let the material conform to the table.
I think that is great. Jason offers solutions to the rest of us. If my business was farming out work I would look for a shop that could understand and follow a spec. I am thinking about Austin Ross, Curtis at CEE, Welderfabber, Abom, and Jody and their attention to layout and detail and specs. I would go to any of them to discuss work I needed done.
years ago i worked with a certified welder that did large aluminum frames for ROVs, and he could keep the frames with 1/8th in aluminum over an 8 ft x 6ft flat frame made with1/4 wall 1.5 inch square tube.
Very nice, best job possible, if you sent them to fireball, I bet yours would take 1st place. As a small shop welder I don’t see how you could have improved your process. A ++ as far as I am concerned. Very nice … no question !!
6:06 : I see some square tubes show the joint weld on one side and some don't show the stitch. Isn't that better to place all the joint welds of the square tubes on the same side ? Also I don't see any chamfer on the parts that are welded, isn't that good practice to remove a bit of material to let some room for the weld to sit ?
Looks good. Doesn't order of welding out matter to reduce distortion a lot... or Maybe not so much in this case since it was clamped down so solidly? Trying to learn.
Yes it dose. I square and tac the frames 3 to 4 tacks in every corner that's top and bottom of each corner before welding. Measure twice and weld. I weld all verticals first inside and out, then the flat side top and bottom next. I find that welding the inside and outside verticals first pull the joint together, where if you weld top face first it can open the joint up as the weld cools. At the end of the day there's more then one way to skin a cat. You use what you have at hand to do the best job you can.
"That is it right there" - proceeds to hit it 3 times more with the hammer and then says it's right there. Well, which time was it "right there"? Cos it can't have been both?
I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt because he admitted to his error before actually cutting the material. He was making a point about his quality of work and whether or not he could do the job according to the print. If this was actually for a customer I believe he would do one of two things. He would either call and ask if the thickness would be an issue before building or he would simply go back and exchange it for the proper material. He could have easily kept the information about his mistake to himself but he was open and admitted it on camera. Provided the size is right, square and flat and the welds were ground down according to the plan I’d give him a pass grade and extra credit for his honesty.
A fabrication table or some piece of heavy, true steel is a must, along with fixtures. I spend a lot of time trying to combat warpage on a Harbor Freight portable table; very difficult when the sheet steel itself is flawed. Warpage has been the hardest thing for me while welding, and I see why so many designs engineer around it by using things like risers.
After watching Fireballs original vid, not quite sure how you ket something you know doesn't meet spec out of your shop. Also, it's a lesson in not promising more than you can deliver. Pretty sure that without the proper tools you're not gonna meet the spec demanded in the challenge
I'm not a welder, so please be kind. If you had left the squares in the fixtures until they completely cooled, would it have made any difference in flatness? I wonder if the residual heat from welding might have caused the slight warpage.
I will say that working for aerospace companies theyre very adamant of having everything perfect. We make parts and theyre sent out for inspection. in general fab shops parts arent inspected the way we do it so most wouldnt even bother to check clearances that tight. But if they knew their parts were getting inspected then theyd probably take the extra time to check.
I just watched the Fireball Video again. He never said that you need a fixture table, He said it makes it easier to build and fabricate and check your work.
He doesn't even allow comments on his videos, I unsubbed from him. I like his stuff, but he seems a bit narcissistic to me; his shit doesn't stink but ours does.
@@Builditboy-nv8ts Implying and saying are the same thing. He shows us time and time again why we have to have his tools. Sorry, but I don't have the desire to sit down and have a beer with the guy.
A fixture table isn't much good without clamps and squares (though it should be flat!). It's still very possible to screw up a build if you're not paying attention to the details.
I think anybody could make this if they threw the whole workshop at the job. Would have been interesting to see you make one with all your tools and one without. maybe just using the table as a surface with one square and your tape measure, no table dogs etc.
Nice Work. I'm not a Fabricater. But the two things that I would do differently is. When cutting the 45°, I would grind them down on an angle. To get a stronger weld. The other is put all of the tube weld seams on the same sides. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. 2025 #STAYSAFE #PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸
I'm with you. Unless purely TIG fusion welding, beveling is not optional. And lining up seams is a pretty basic detail that regularly drives me nuts here. I just focus on Jimbo's overall concepts and ignore certain details 😊
with so much time dedicated for this activity, how much would this cost with you time billing ? in which of 3 category of fireball challenge contender would it be , small shop, medium or huge shop
Knowing its going to be analyised gives you the unfair advantage, youll make extra sure is all correct, how ever the shops still should have made it to spec anyways i know.
that was the 2nd challenge ... fireball did 2 different versions ... the one with the legs one guy asked so what is it like a coffee table or end table and the fireball guy said: ya something like this ... at that point he lost me .... he set the guy up for failure ... he didnt point out the overly tight tolerances on the fabricated part ... he made it sound like it did matter .... that is very dishonest in my opinion ...
@@ZILAweldsI thought I remembered him including a tolerance limit when he hired the shops to make the tables. It’s been a year or so since I watched it.
I don't have a fab table. I use a 4' long piece of 6"x 6" x 3/8" steel beam that's dead straight. I can get as accurate as I want with it. There's the key, "as accurate as I want". With a little patience, anyone can get good results. Too many shops won't take the time required for accuracy.
Jason's last test is this one to which he added 4 legs welded halfway up the pipe! I can give you some advice, especially for those who don't have a welding table like Jimbo's: when welding a square with 45 degree joints, you have to take into account a certain order and direction of the welds so that the distortion is as small as possible, there are videos on the internet about this subject, I tried it too and it worked very well! Anyway, you did a very good job especially thanks to the welding table, I follow each of your videos with great interest, I really like your garage, it's clear that you invested a lot of money in tools, I really appreciate such people. Greetings from Romania! th-cam.com/video/5SSUbxpCVZs/w-d-xo.html
One square had two to three clamps per side. The second only had one clamp per side. Lost track with the editing to know which was first or second. Agree with the wrong thickness of tubing. The thicker material is easier to keep square. It’s less likely to squirm around.
Yep, I remember this test being done and those shops should have been ashamed of their work. If you're asked to do something to a specification it should meet those specifications. If you don't think you can, don't take the work on
considering you're using welded sq tube to begin with, which is not even remotely high tolerance as far as flat, straight, etc... that 18 thou you got is NOTHING. It could have easily been way worse than that through no fault of your own.
I really want to get the Htp revolution 2500. Hopefully I will be able to afford one soon. I think I have watched every video I could find about it. Seems like a great welder.
Thats why Jason disabled his comments section... also, I lurk on Practical Machinist forum and those guys were even worse towards him regarding this test... seems like there are a lot of haters out there these days alright... I would have thought americans would be proud of what Fireball has achieved instead of knocking him...
Im not sayings its fine to do shitty work but 99% of the customers going into any of those shops wouldn't have know there was a problem and there wouldn't have been a problem for their needs
i know you guys over the pond really like your imperial system, but it makes no sense(well it does to you i guess). i mean 28th and a 16th under half? wtf? would be alot easier getting that number in mm. like 28inches is 71,12mm.
Fireball Tool claims table flatness down to thousandths. Yet a tape measure is an adequate meteology foundation for the rest of the project. I know this is an infommercial designed to sell products. If you're going to make claims of superior technical details, it would benefit to show consistency in these technical details.
Sorry brother nothing about your fabrication skills but you already Failed before you Started wall thickness matters the seam of the pipe location matters Those small details they all matter you're fixedture table is great but those fine details you skip by Tube seem always matters
shame you didnt match the box seams too ,,, tidy job all the same. but no weld prep and welds that didnt look all that hot does not make a great product .
Not sure after watching it. What's the point of this video. After watching Jason video im could try to do it, and there is a chance ill make it within tolerance. Whith your video i would be very anxious. Most likely you are welder longer than i lm alive. So you prove Jason is wright with his statemen, still you underestimated him. Wonder if this is pride or marchandising.
Hate to say it but you failed the fireball tool challenge right off the bat. If you got the wrong material then you failed. The challenge is to make it to the print. You said you would never send something out the door that was not in tolerance. Material thickness is a tolerance. So if you make a mistake with your customers have you just gave it to them anyway because after welding it together they could not tell and maybe some people you done things for didn’t know the difference. Quote a job for .125 wall and used .0625 wall because you knew you could get by with it to make more money.
500$ worth of clamps and squares, a table worth thousands, and you made a perfect square, great... Sorry, but although the guy is smart and makes some great tools, I don't care for him not allowing comments unless you join his message board. It's as if he can't handle any negativity.
How can you do this and not understand that the point was that you NEED a table! You missed the whole point. Also, you didn’t read the print and used the wrong material, FAIl.
well knowing what the test is going into it does not make is a fair challenge. unlike fireballs tool video he asked people to build something not knowing who or what is was for...
Jason's tooling makes all the difference in the world when you have good fab table and know how to use it.
Good Job Jimbo.
I love the " I don't know how they could send the product out that did not meet the specs... I got the wrong material oh well."
This 100%, think it shows the quality of this shop as well
The purpose of Jason’s test was to see if you could make those in tolerance without a fixture table because one of his viewers said he didn’t need a 10k table to make those. So, Jimbo see how you do without the table.
That is my observation as well. Build it without the table and see how you go. Before fixture tables came about that is how we fabricated and all was in tolerance and spec. Making and shipping stuff out of tolerance is just lazy workmanship.
Also, I might add....you chose to badmouth the contestants right at the beginning for sending work out, out of spec. You chose to build out of spec. by ignoring the thickness spec. WhaaWhat was that?!
Well no.
He didn't ask for them to not use fixture table.
So your a bit off.
But the overall takeaway WAS how the fixture table makes such a difference.
And Jason did it In a way that wasn't rude or badmouthing, just a showcase of the advantages of a fixture table.
Now I can almost assue you if those other welding shops knew they were going to be judged by millions they'd have worked a bit harder to maintain flatness.
I agree you don't need that kind of table to do what he did, I would not need that table to do this. Many ways you could secure that with out special table, and actually the way he did do it in my opinion was way over kill. Good job non the less.
Nice work, Jimbo!
Failed u started with the wrong material 😂 but they were perfect 😂😂
well done Jim. Jason is a fantastic fabricator / educator. yes he sells fixture equipment, so yes he will be pitching his products. i dont think that takes away from the validity of the message. fixture tables allow better, faster, repeatable work...they just do. now as for "baiting" the fab shops....they were given plans with tolerance callouts....there's no bait. either they didn't read the plans or didn't care to check the parts. if you watch more fireball videos youll see his teenage son with limited shop exp setup the jig and go to town building " in spec" parts. the whole point was to illustrate the professional results are easier to achieve with fixtures. honestly if youve been in the market for a welding table and considered the options...fireball makes a damn fine table, probably one of the best money can buy. solid cast top machined on 5 sides vs interlocking grid such as the certiflat and the like. ive settled on a primeweld solid cast table. lowest price on a solid table shipped to your door.
Proving Jason right. Good work..!!
I wish I could chop it up with you when you come by my work…I work at the metal supply store you pick up your metal at. I’m one of the welders there, I did get a chance to say talk to you when I first started there but yeah I know your busy haha, I still watch your videos to help me learn…I found your channel when I first got into welding back in 2019…and I still watch your videos to this day, infinite amount of knowledge and tips just by watching you work in your shop…Thanks Jimbo 👍🏾
Awesome work. Thanks Jimbo. Been a big fan of you and fireball tools.
This was a fun video for me! Jimbos Garage and Fireball Tools are the only fabrication TH-cam channels that I subscribe to. Keep up the good work!!
Fireball tool isn't a fab channel lmao
Check out cutting edge engineering deflinetly one of my favorites!
My father used to love watched your videos everyday , till his last energy to watch your video he did . Now he is in heaven
Wasnt the point of fireballs video that a fixture table is exactly the tool to make the piece right? 😮
Yes. This guy missed the point.
No.
That was the conclusion
There was no instructions to not use a fixture table.
So the original welders could have used one.
Considering they most likely used some sort of table to weld them.
They weren't instructed to weld without a table.
Fantastic shop organization and clean work.
I have had my table for almost a year now and the difference in production is night and day, We did put out quality products before the table but the ability to set up a jig and repeatedly produce has been a game changer, my apprentice even commented the other day that she was amazed at how much easier jobs have been since the addition of our table. On another note, what brand are your self adjusting clamps ? I have a bunch of those but mine aren't self adjusting. Have a great Thanksgiving and I wish you the best. Chris at T-Town Welding and Fabrication
Seen a comment like this already... but to me for this product it'd be all tube seams to the inside and in line...
Jason commented and asked for you to ship them to him to test them on his granite surface plate. Great video. Thanks for sharing
How come you don't use the holes and table fixtures to set the dimensions of the frame first? Isn't the table grid more accurate then the tape measure? Jason says you should set up the fixtures first and let the material conform to the table.
I like the fact that you used Jason’s squares to complete his challenge. By the way, I rock my Jimbo’s Garage shirts all the time. Cheers!
I think that is great. Jason offers solutions to the rest of us. If my business was farming out work I would look for a shop that could understand and follow a spec. I am thinking about Austin Ross, Curtis at CEE, Welderfabber, Abom, and Jody and their attention to layout and detail and specs. I would go to any of them to discuss work I needed done.
I have the greatest confidence in your quality work. 3 Cheers!
years ago i worked with a certified welder that did large aluminum frames for ROVs, and he could keep the frames with 1/8th in aluminum over an 8 ft x 6ft flat frame made with1/4 wall 1.5 inch square tube.
1/16 under a half made me laugh.. I used to read measurements off like that, too.
No, the real end of test would have been sending the squares off to Fireball Tool. Fireball is the judge.
20:23 why did you run two beads down that corner? Is it because you welded completely off the joint???
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Very nice, best job possible, if you sent them to fireball, I bet yours would take 1st place. As a small shop welder I don’t see how you could have improved your process. A ++ as far as I am concerned. Very nice … no question !!
fireball squares worked great for building my gate on the ground. Highly recommend them to everyone.
Thanks for sharing, enjoyed it. Even enjoyed the comments from the technical folks that didn't get your point.
Like I always said, Jimbo, you do some mighty fine work...
See you next time, on JIMBO'S GARAGE...
Wanted to say, love your channel always look forward to your videos. 👍
Id like to see Jason redo the challenge but supply the material cut to size and see if the shops still get it wrong at the assembly stage?
Great job Jimbo.
6:06 : I see some square tubes show the joint weld on one side and some don't show the stitch.
Isn't that better to place all the joint welds of the square tubes on the same side ?
Also I don't see any chamfer on the parts that are welded, isn't that good practice to remove a bit of material to let some room for the weld to sit ?
Looks good. Doesn't order of welding out matter to reduce distortion a lot... or Maybe not so much in this case since it was clamped down so solidly? Trying to learn.
Yes it dose. I square and tac the frames 3 to 4 tacks in every corner that's top and bottom of each corner before welding. Measure twice and weld. I weld all verticals first inside and out, then the flat side top and bottom next. I find that welding the inside and outside verticals first pull the joint together, where if you weld top face first it can open the joint up as the weld cools. At the end of the day there's more then one way to skin a cat. You use what you have at hand to do the best job you can.
Proper sequence does matter.
Yes, Jason @Fireball made a great video on weld sequencing. Definitely worth watching.
"That is it right there" - proceeds to hit it 3 times more with the hammer and then says it's right there. Well, which time was it "right there"? Cos it can't have been both?
Goes back to looking at what is being offered to the customer: fast, quality, inexpensive. You're going to get two out of three (at best).
23:18 random jump to a drone footage shot.
@jimbo
Good hunter 😀
I saw that as well.
I think he should be given the benefit of the doubt because he admitted to his error before actually cutting the material. He was making a point about his quality of work and whether or not he could do the job according to the print. If this was actually for a customer I believe he would do one of two things. He would either call and ask if the thickness would be an issue before building or he would simply go back and exchange it for the proper material. He could have easily kept the information about his mistake to himself but he was open and admitted it on camera. Provided the size is right, square and flat and the welds were ground down according to the plan I’d give him a pass grade and extra credit for his honesty.
@@davidt8438 He didn't admit to his error before cutting! That was a video voice-over!!! Surely, that's apparent, right?!?
A fabrication table or some piece of heavy, true steel is a must, along with fixtures.
I spend a lot of time trying to combat warpage on a Harbor Freight portable table; very difficult when the sheet steel itself is flawed. Warpage has been the hardest thing for me while welding, and I see why so many designs engineer around it by using things like risers.
After watching Fireballs original vid, not quite sure how you ket something you know doesn't meet spec out of your shop. Also, it's a lesson in not promising more than you can deliver. Pretty sure that without the proper tools you're not gonna meet the spec demanded in the challenge
I'm not a welder, so please be kind. If you had left the squares in the fixtures until they completely cooled, would it have made any difference in flatness? I wonder if the residual heat from welding might have caused the slight warpage.
I will say that working for aerospace companies theyre very adamant of having everything perfect. We make parts and theyre sent out for inspection. in general fab shops parts arent inspected the way we do it so most wouldnt even bother to check clearances that tight. But if they knew their parts were getting inspected then theyd probably take the extra time to check.
The Whole Point Of His Videos Was That You NEED A Fixture Table!!!
He Was Trying To Sell Tables!!!!
I watched the fireball video and he was real deceiving about how he baited the people ….. NOT professional at all ….
I just watched the Fireball Video again. He never said that you need a fixture table, He said it makes it easier to build and fabricate and check your work.
Jason is the same type of person that thinks you’re aren’t a woodworker unless you have $20,000 in Festool.
He doesn't even allow comments on his videos, I unsubbed from him. I like his stuff, but he seems a bit narcissistic to me; his shit doesn't stink but ours does.
@@Builditboy-nv8ts Implying and saying are the same thing. He shows us time and time again why we have to have his tools. Sorry, but I don't have the desire to sit down and have a beer with the guy.
You better pass the test w damn near 3 to 400 bucks of clamps & squares
That's the point.
A fixture table isn't much good without clamps and squares (though it should be flat!). It's still very possible to screw up a build if you're not paying attention to the details.
I think anybody could make this if they threw the whole workshop at the job.
Would have been interesting to see you make one with all your tools and one without. maybe just using the table as a surface with one square and your tape measure, no table dogs etc.
good good
Nice Work. I'm not a Fabricater. But the two things that I would do differently is. When cutting the 45°, I would grind them down on an angle. To get a stronger weld. The other is put all of the tube weld seams on the same sides. Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. 2025
#STAYSAFE
#PHILLYPHILLY 🇺🇸
I'm with you. Unless purely TIG fusion welding, beveling is not optional. And lining up seams is a pretty basic detail that regularly drives me nuts here. I just focus on Jimbo's overall concepts and ignore certain details 😊
Challenge specified choosing shops that didn’t use fixture tables
Drives me nuts when guys don’t put all the seams on the same side lol
I wouldn’t have thought that you would clamp the square to the table. I would of clamped it to the actual material as it will still be likely to move
Excellent 👌
Wasn’t there four legs? On the midpoint of each side.
How much would have you quoted to do the job?
4k 😆
with so much time dedicated for this activity, how much would this cost with you time billing ?
in which of 3 category of fireball challenge contender would it be , small shop, medium or huge shop
7/16”
lookslike some of the wields are a little high.
Knowing its going to be analyised gives you the unfair advantage, youll make extra sure is all correct, how ever the shops still should have made it to spec anyways i know.
exactly, now doing this kind of challenge is useless if you now the outcome.
A 1/16 under half would be 7/16…
I thought the challenge has 4 upright tubes off each base?
that was the 2nd challenge ... fireball did 2 different versions ... the one with the legs one guy asked so what is it like a coffee table or end table and the fireball guy said: ya something like this ... at that point he lost me .... he set the guy up for failure ... he didnt point out the overly tight tolerances on the fabricated part ... he made it sound like it did matter .... that is very dishonest in my opinion ...
@@ZILAweldsI thought I remembered him including a tolerance limit when he hired the shops to make the tables. It’s been a year or so since I watched it.
@@ZILAweldsalso: if I remember correctly, 1/16th was the most it could be off, as far as the size. I don’t remember about the flatness/wobble.
Good
Where is the weld prep? With out “Veeing” out the welds, it looks like you ground most of the weld off.
Its thin material. Theres more than enough penetration.
not every joint needs a bevel
I don't have a fab table. I use a 4' long piece of 6"x 6" x 3/8" steel beam that's dead straight. I can get as accurate as I want with it. There's the key, "as accurate as I want". With a little patience, anyone can get good results. Too many shops won't take the time required for accuracy.
Time is money. That’s why fixture tables and all the clamps are an investment.
Lol that beam isn't anywhere near "Dead Straight". Your ignorance is on full display.
Forgot the legs!!
Was it foggy or smokey out there that day?
11:08
i can see it coming in the air tonight
17:03 not a fan of tacking on corners but it works
Jason's last test is this one to which he added 4 legs welded halfway up the pipe! I can give you some advice, especially for those who don't have a welding table like Jimbo's: when welding a square with 45 degree joints, you have to take into account a certain order and direction of the welds so that the distortion is as small as possible, there are videos on the internet about this subject, I tried it too and it worked very well! Anyway, you did a very good job especially thanks to the welding table, I follow each of your videos with great interest, I really like your garage, it's clear that you invested a lot of money in tools, I really appreciate such people. Greetings from Romania! th-cam.com/video/5SSUbxpCVZs/w-d-xo.html
One square had two to three clamps per side. The second only had one clamp per side.
Lost track with the editing to know which was first or second.
Agree with the wrong thickness of tubing. The thicker material is easier to keep square. It’s less likely to squirm around.
Yep, I remember this test being done and those shops should have been ashamed of their work. If you're asked to do something to a specification it should meet those specifications. If you don't think you can, don't take the work on
Pam cooking spray will help avoid bb's
Looks good Jimbo
considering you're using welded sq tube to begin with, which is not even remotely high tolerance as far as flat, straight, etc... that 18 thou you got is NOTHING. It could have easily been way worse than that through no fault of your own.
Don't forget Jason tested flatness on a granite surface block which is far more flat and accurate than any steel table
Its only sooo good because you are a good welder and you used the HTP revolution machine !!!
I really want to get the Htp revolution 2500. Hopefully I will be able to afford one soon. I think I have watched every video I could find about it. Seems like a great welder.
two more clamps and I think you will be there
We have a bunch of Karen’s in the comments! What’s with all the hate lately?!
Thanksgiving 😂
Everyone is Tripping, IMHO...
@@Jimmermahomoney😂😂😂😂
@@mackellyman5642💯💯💯
Thats why Jason disabled his comments section... also, I lurk on Practical Machinist forum and those guys were even worse towards him regarding this test... seems like there are a lot of haters out there these days alright... I would have thought americans would be proud of what Fireball has achieved instead of knocking him...
10/10
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
CAN YOU DO THE LEGS AS YOU MISSED THAT PART .
Why did you insert a clip of your neighborhood at 23:18?
Covering up a flaw in the flatness?
What happened 20:24 😂
Im not sayings its fine to do shitty work but 99% of the customers going into any of those shops wouldn't have know there was a problem and there wouldn't have been a problem for their needs
A 1/16 under a 1/2.....lol. Enough said.
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What about the center leg jobs unless he had a new test video
In his challenge he required no fixture table, fail on that point. I commented on his video that he should follow his own rules.
i know you guys over the pond really like your imperial system, but it makes no sense(well it does to you i guess). i mean 28th and a 16th under half? wtf? would be alot easier getting that number in mm. like 28inches is 71,12mm.
I use metric a lot because it's so much simpler. for some reason the other guys I deal with can't figure it out.
Fireball Tool claims table flatness down to thousandths. Yet a tape measure is an adequate meteology foundation for the rest of the project. I know this is an infommercial designed to sell products. If you're going to make claims of superior technical details, it would benefit to show consistency in these technical details.
1/16th under a half, would that equal 7/16th? I work in metric so trying to understand whats going on here.
Why is your welds letting off so much sparks and sounds like it is supper fast... welds also look like very proud. Looks like a catapiler...
You should bevel all of the butt joints and grind the corners back about a 1/4 inch so the weld lays in with adequate penetration
Sorry brother nothing about your fabrication skills but you already Failed before you Started wall thickness matters the seam of the pipe location matters Those small details they all matter you're fixedture table is great but those fine details you skip by Tube seem always matters
shame you didnt match the box seams too ,,, tidy job all the same. but no weld prep and welds that didnt look all that hot does not make a great product .
Tube weld Seams not facing same direction ..bush league
Not sure after watching it. What's the point of this video. After watching Jason video im could try to do it, and there is a chance ill make it within tolerance. Whith your video i would be very anxious. Most likely you are welder longer than i lm alive. So you prove Jason is wright with his statemen, still you underestimated him. Wonder if this is pride or marchandising.
lol, failed out of the gate. .120 doesn't meet print and worse off, the customer can't see it.
Also, you need someone else to check your work.
grate job . now put the legs on them
Hate to say it but you failed the fireball tool challenge right off the bat. If you got the wrong material then you failed. The challenge is to make it to the print. You said you would never send something out the door that was not in tolerance. Material thickness is a tolerance. So if you make a mistake with your customers have you just gave it to them anyway because after welding it together they could not tell and maybe some people you done things for didn’t know the difference. Quote a job for .125 wall and used .0625 wall because you knew you could get by with it to make more money.
I was going to say the same thing. Test is void because of incorrect material size.
Lol would you expect anything else from a guy getting money from a Chinese black stallion? I have a jacket myself i just hate made in China🇨🇳
That’s a great point! Imtegrity plays a big part when your in business
I love how fire ball commented
hes not sending out the point is it was sqaure every where
500$ worth of clamps and squares, a table worth thousands, and you made a perfect square, great... Sorry, but although the guy is smart and makes some great tools, I don't care for him not allowing comments unless you join his message board. It's as if he can't handle any negativity.
just for the note the exact reason why he picked were all without fixture tables and that was the point of the video.
How can you do this and not understand that the point was that you NEED a table! You missed the whole point. Also, you didn’t read the print and used the wrong material, FAIl.
well knowing what the test is going into it does not make is a fair challenge. unlike fireballs tool video he asked people to build something not knowing who or what is was for...
Good job, but the constant background soundtrack is unnecessary--we're here for the sights and sounds of the shop, not an MTV vid.