I pre-ordered it immediately. I have an NSO N64 controller, but I didn’t want to have to buy another for my partner to use, since they’re only realistically available overpriced on eBay these days, and I also wanted one I could be a bit rougher with playing Mario Party. This is the perfect solution.
Same, someone shared it was available for pre-order in a group and I pre-ordered right then and there, and purchased a broken OEM N64 controller. It's been embarrassing Nintendo has NEVER been able to stock the NSO N64 controller. Removing my CC information from Nintendo and officially giving up on trying to buy the N64 from Nintendo after over a year of waiting or just missing it in stock.
Sometimes with the older membranes, if you rub a bit of plain old paper on the connecting element, it will just gently buff the surface and get the button working like new again. Sometimes if the membrane is placed back even slightly differently it causes issues as you’ll see a smoother ‘strip’ on the disk where it’s been pressed against the circuit for all those years. It’s not fool proof but works a surprising amount of times.
This seems like a great way to bring fresh life into controllers that are broken. But personally I would probably just go with the wired adapter, as I still play on my N64 sometimes.
@@hollow314 I did that on one of my controllers a couple of years ago. Feels so much better, but that version isn't as accurate for FPS games. This stick seems better though, so I'll probably end up getting one of these whenever my other stick becomes worn out.
I'm pretty sure that the kits page says that it comes with a wireless adapter, but Bob didn't mention it. The SNES and NES mods come with them though, so it's probably worth checking the store page.
@@bland9876 Oh, hmm. They do sell the wireless adapter that you can plug into the original hardware, and connect it with. That's what I was thinking of.
I worked at a thrift store for a while, and somebody donated an N64 controller with an obliterated cable (I assume a dog got a hold of it) and a not terrible, but not great thumbstick. Other than that, it’s mint. I got it for free because they tossed it in the garbage. It’s literally perfect for this mod.
This is awesome! I have literally 3 dead controller that I never had the heart to sell or recycle the parts. Now I can bring them back to life after so many years. I’ve always wanted 4 wireless n64 controller to play with the family
Fun Fact: One N64 game was released with corrupted, glitched music, with lots of Midi errors, corrupted instrument samples and more. It's called Donald Duck Goin Quackers, which is actually a port of the Dreamcast/PC version (that actually has some great, underrated music!), but has a few original songs that to this day are not as audible as they should be. The game's TCRF article explains a lot of the music errors. It's crazy!
@@QuinquinoMan I love the PC version's ost too. The n64 version however has some exclusive songs that are to this day not audible as they are supposed to.
Interesting fact, 8bitdo did release a n64 controller, but that around the time before the Nintendo switch came out and it was made in collaboration between them and retrobit. If anyone wants more context on this, just hit me back with a comment.
I bought it and had some issues updating the firmware and they told me for legal reasons they couldn't sell it anymore. So the firmware couldn't be updated. So it was pretty obvious what happened. I returned it and now years later I see they're selling pretty good for a profit lol. Should've kept mine.
@@pqskyou’re probably better off buying the official NSO controller if you want an N64 controller still; I have the 8BitDo one and the NSO one, and the 8BitDo one feels super weird compared to the official one. It works super well with the USB adapter that 8BitDo sells.
@@YourResidentBell you missed what I wrote. People are banking off that og one. Making a profit....that just means I could've sold mine for a lot more $ than I paid. That being said, I have the NSO and I use my OG N64 connected with a raphnet adapter to the 8bitdo gbros and both are sweet wireless.
I look forward to getting this soon. Got my childhood N64 controller still with a very wobbly stick. I do wonder if I should do this to it because it is sentimental.. but it does feel nice that I'll be using my old childhood one again, well.. the case of it anyway... I'll make sure to keep the board safe.
13:20 one small correction here for the feel, the throw values of the 8bitdo stick and the original n64 stick aren't quite the same for the lower values. There is a teeny tiny deadzone on the 8bitdo that isn't present on the original stick, which makes moving at lower values slightly off from what it would be on an original one. However the deadzone is significantly smaller than on other switch controllers (even the pro) so you can actually move slowly with less stick movement than on the pro controllers. Which will also result in it feeling different since less stick movement will already provide ingame movement. Personally this is currently the best third-party stick for N64 I've tried. It's not as "perfect" for fine, minimal movements as a pristine original N64 stick but it's still much better in that area than any other replacement, be it a Tribute64, a GC controller / stick, or a Pro controller. If you have an N64 controller with a broken or worn out stick absolutely consider getting this kit. Either only the stick if you want to keep it wired or go the whole mile and combine it with a blueretro adapter. Those are objectively the currently best solution to get them working again and have a stick you can use on stuff like Mario Party without any concern for breaking them.
This looks really cool and seems pretty easy to do. I honestly kinda wish the original N64 thumbstick would have been like the mod since it is ao mich nicer. Good video Bob.
I literally pre-ordered this as soon as I saw your video, I always wanted to turn my euthentic third-party N64 Controller into a wireless for some time now so I'm glad to know that I can now. Great showcase as well.
12:55 Unfortunately... There is something wrong with the new thumbstick, and it's the octagonal gates, because the N64 controller has a non-perfect octagonal gate, while the new one is a perfect octagon, like a Gamecube Controller. This messes more than it should with the inputs.
I figured that would be the case. I would recommend modding your bowl of your OG stick from the n64 with a steel bowl from BrewStix if you want the og stick feel but with new like feel.
Have you actually checked that? At least when using the 8bitdo stick modules with a Nintendo controller PCB on the N64 it looks a lot more "square" than octogonal, my controllers with refurbished Nintendo style sticks give more octogonal shaped inputs than the 8bitdo. Note the physical shape of the gate doesn't necessarily map directly to the actual registered inputs due to things like value range, linearity and if there's any processing being done by the "smart" embedded electronics to make the Hall Effect sensors work with a controller expecting data from an optical encoder (which are pairs of digital pulses for each direction, instead of varying voltages). Also, the way N64 games deal with analog inputs is a bit messy... Cheap clone controllers will usually report a +/-127 range, original Nintendo controllers when new and tight will cap somewhere around 80~85 IIRC, most stuff designed for use in PCs will also have a +/-127 range and may need some mapping/scaling to adjust sensitivity to something sensible on a N64 emulator. My main worry is that the range of the 8bitdo may not be enough for some games, but I'm not a speedrunner and I don't know specifics of many games. What I could get is +/- 80 for dead on X/Y directions and +/- 67 on the diagonals, not sure if that's enough for all games or it will cause issues on some games.
I have the Retro Fighter's bluetooth controller you showed, and bought the Hyperkin N64 controller because the Retro Fighter's was not in stock at that time. Love them both, they feel great, but I always loved the feel of the original N64 controller. And my original N64 controller, that came with my system, does have a messed up cord, so easy solution here. Thanks a lot for letting people know about this. IU feel like I wouldn't have known about this if not for your video.
So extensive testing by other channels has proven that the hall effect stick actually has some serious sensitivity and analogue stepping issues. It seems to skip steps and have inconsistent dead zone lengths.
Thanks to your video I just randomly looked the N64 controller up at the nintendo store and it's available and will be shipped to me tomorrow. Totally forgot to check regularly if it's in store. Thanks, Bob.
I have never ever purchased anything advertised on TH-cam. I came across this video today and was so impressed by the review I pre-ordered 4 of them. I will update with my review when they arrive.
the n64 controller for switch online is a pain in the ass to try to get since its always sold out. I would totally scoop the 8bitdo set up I have a ton of their products and they are yet to disappoint. Awesome video. I have been trying to get the switch online controller for like a year and always miss out so looks like i have a solution now thanks for the heads up man
Just as a little correction: I was just at the NYC Nintendo store in May, and bought an N64 controller with no issue. Just had to show I was an NSO member.
The best controller I've ever used for the n64 is the Sega Saturn 3d controller adapted to usb the analog stick is great micro switches plus has 6 buttons on the front and 2 triggers and is really comfy
It doesn't necessarily come with the thumbstick. I did the mod and used some thumbstick replacements I got off of eBay. That also works. But I think 8Bitdos thumbsticks are better and not even more expensive. So if you don't already have replacement sticks, just get the ones from 8Bitdo. I think they're the best deal. I think when it comes to the Z-button it depends on how well its board fits onto the back of the thumbstick. I did two mods, one is perfectly fine and the other one is slightly harder to press. I think it's a case by case situation and depends on how well it fits together with the back of the thumbstick. It's a fun mod, but it's definitely not an cheap option. I liked doing the mod and I wanted some fancier looking controllers instead of the grey one. So that's why I liked it so much. If you have to buy a controller first, I think I'd rather recommend the official controller. Also consider if you're thinking long term... it might be easier to get replacement parts for the original controller in the long run. The new controller from Nintendo is a bit different afaik which might make it more difficult to maintain in the future. Just as a thought.
13:20 I highly doubt it's just "how the N64 feels". The thing with the N64 and perhaps especially Mario 64, is you have total control, it really uses every degree of movement so you can make some incredibly precise movements. I'm guessing this replacement stick acts like other replacements do, they tend to snap to the 4 main directions as well as the corners, the original control stick doesn't do so. That's why you feel something is slightly off, switch to an official controller in good condition and you'll notice the difference.
First time I’ve been more interested in the sponsor than the product on the video 😅. It’s not that the mod isn’t good but a better webcam is very needed in this day and age! Specially for remote work!
I did the fun challenge and ordered the mod kit but also ordered the buttons the membrane and an original shell and basically built the controller from scratch. It was actually pretty fun to do.
Now if only they'd do this for the dreamcast controller. Put it in the second memory card slot so you can still use the vmu and make a dongle that plugs into the dreamcast that way you can use an actual dreamcast controller unlike all the other adapters that are just bluetooth adapters for other controllers
I used to restore N64 controllers, especially the thumbstick, and it was a fun experience. I have some Pokemon shell controllers, this might be a neat thing to do. The GameCube stick may feel good, but I've seen benchmark tests showing hella deadzone. I'd use a og thumbstick, if it's still good.
They are great but sometimes you just need that first party feel. I would recommend the Retro-Bit over modding an OG controller as some of the screws are just a pain to deal with and not to mention not everyone may have the tools needed (depending on if the tools required weren't provided).
@1:49 I want to add that they DO let you buy them in-store at the NYC store, but they have to be in-stock at the time and you still need to show the person at the register your active Online account on your phone. I had luck getting my Online controllers through them in-store. Availability may vary of course, but it's always worth a shot checking if you're local.
My tip is if any of the controllers show available in-stock online, chances are it's in-stock at the NYC store. If it came back online but sold out quick, keep checking the NYC store around those days as they could just be waiting on their in-store restock shipment. I got my N64 controller last year, but last I was there in October they were sold out of the N64 controller online, but they were available for in-store purchase at a limited quantity. But that's a lot of work to keep checking in person, just do Bob's method at this point lmao
Thanks to WULFF I bought a wired Xbox controller from 8bitdo for my PC and I LOVE IT. Amazing quality for $40. If 8bitdo released an N64 controller I wouldn't think twice about buying it.
I was able to buy my N64 NSO controller at Nintendo NY when I visited. All you have to do is show them that you are a member by logging in on your phone and they'll sell it to you.
One caveat to the stick replacement. The arc of the original stick vs the number of digital pulses may not match up with the new stick and the number of it's digital pulses. Hori style N64 sticks have this problem. This may be responsible for odd input feel. I went back to the original stick because of this issue when trying hori style sticks for the N64.
Those old controllers have all that baked in anger from smash and Mario kart sessions from 20 years ago .. really wanna bring that to my modern games too
I got one of their NES boards and a couple adaptors, so I could use it on my NES, NES mini and Switch. The bluetooth pairing is a bit of a hassle, so I tend to just keep it paired with my NES now, but the thing works great, and having one less cable to worry about is always a good thing.
I did this mod a few weeks ago and also had an issue with the Z button membrane fitting to the new board. I ended up using a different membrane fron a 3rd party controller I had lying around.
You can buy the controllers at the store in NYC. I was there in March 2023; you have to ask, show your subscription is current and can only buy 1 of each type.
I wish they had something like this for the GC controller. Sure, they have modern version of it, but they lack the analog triggers, which make it bad for emulating. Or even if they released Joycon versions of it. Again, yes, I know Nyxi released them, but I have the same issues with that.
@@omegasiferx100 Yeah, that's been my experience for most GCN N64 sticks too. I was hoping 8Bitdo would have found a better way though. There actually is a cool mod you can do to the $10 GCN sticks that make them have almost the same level of sensitivity as the original sticks, but it is kind of intense. But I have done it successfully about four times. I've got one of these 8Bitdo controllers ordered, and I'll make a video testing the stick. If it is as bad as the other $10 GCN sticks, maybe I'll make a custom stick mod for this controller too.
This feels similar to when I bought a Gameboy color themed joycon shell. I thought about getting new set of joycons but then realized I could by a used set online cuz the shell kit came with new buttons and a new set of analog sticks was like $5. In total, spent Half the cost in Total compared to the cost of a brand new joycon set.
The worst part of the Switch Online N64 controller is not that you need a Switch Online subscription to even buy it but that it can be connected to your PC via Bluetooth but it might be recognized buy an emulator but you can’t actually map any of the buttons to the emulator. Nintendo apparently did this on purpose because they extremely hate emulation. It’s weird though because I own the NES Switch Online controllers and they work on emulators via my PC perfectly fine 😂.
I don't even bring up the N64 library on my Switch due to how much I dislike using a Pro Controller with them. This mod is making me think about doing it so I can maybe enjoy playing Star Fox and Mario 64
Hey Wulff and anyone else reading this, I was in NY today and went to the Nintendo Store and you can actually buy the N64 controller there! You have to ask for it and still have to be a NSO member. They’ll ask you to sign in to your account on your phone and show it to them but after that you’re good. I still got the receipt too. Please pin!
Regarding the way it’s recognized by the Switch; Maybe you can put it into D-input mode and sync it to a 8BitDo USB adapter so it’ll be recognized as a Pro Controller?
This is what I'm going to do. I have missed every restock for the official NSO N64 controller. After modding GB, GBCs, and GBAs, this will be a piece of cake.
I preordered those immediately when they became available. Thanks to the blueretro I can also still use those controllers on an actual N64. No regrets. It's the perfect solution to Nintendo's stupid attitude of deciding if you're worth it to buy the stupid controller in the first place.
Ok, you need to make a compilation of your ads, just do it by year, they're so good I'd watch an entire video of just the ads, hell, ask if the sponsors will pay again, I reckon they would.
I have the RetroFighters controller and love it! So much more comfortable and easy to use. Now I just wish there was an easy way to play N64 games in handheld mode, as I really can’t get on with those controls.
@@NewGabeOrder that’s the one I have, but I don’t want to take a controller with me if I’m playing in handheld and don’t really want to play in tabletop mode.
Idk about the bit where you can't buy the NSO controllers at Nintendo NY. I literally went there for the Mario movie event (they had those Mario shoe replicas on display) and they actually DID have the NSO controllers available to buy. I picked up the N64 controller there on impulse knowing they sell out online very quickly lol. They just needa verify your NSO subscription is all but it takes very little time.
Mayflash came out with an adapter as well that you forgot to mention. It's garbo, but it gives you the accessibility of having 2 controllers plugged in.
i'm curious to know if the controller mod would support GB/GBC passthrough for Pokemon Stadium and Stadium 2's gameboy center? that would be next level
0:04 If they didn't run that well then they wouldn't have made it for the n64. They ran just fine. Yes sure there was some framerate issues sometimes but literally at the time what game didn't on their OG hardware.
Waiting for mine to arrive. 0:13 I don't agree. I use a DualShock 4 with a bluetooth adapter on my N64, and it works great, even for FPS. I just set the second analog stick to the C-buttons.
You are such a huge TH-camr, you earned your ways in life. You got a beautiful set up. I don’t like to like these kind of TH-camrs. I like your channel a lot
Honestly, the N64 controller is best used for games like Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie, Sin & Punishment, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64, Zelda (both), Goldeneye/Perfect Dark... You know, the games that fully utilize the C buttons for many aspects of the gameplay besides camera controls. The controller is the whole reason n64 emulation is awkward. Always need to reconfigure the controls to make it work for a Pro Controller, and the Switch doesn't even let you have that luxury (at least not in a convenient sense). I may look into this for getting a second N64 controller for switch.
1:47 I actually bought it from the Nintendo store in New York like in August of last year, was lucky enough to go to America last year and took the opportunity to buy it there, but I have no idea if they might have changed that now
You should clean the Z membrane scraping it into a piece of paper and clean the Z board with IPA. Everything should be fine; This is the sturdiest controller ever.
I pre-ordered it immediately. I have an NSO N64 controller, but I didn’t want to have to buy another for my partner to use, since they’re only realistically available overpriced on eBay these days, and I also wanted one I could be a bit rougher with playing Mario Party. This is the perfect solution.
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Same, someone shared it was available for pre-order in a group and I pre-ordered right then and there, and purchased a broken OEM N64 controller. It's been embarrassing Nintendo has NEVER been able to stock the NSO N64 controller. Removing my CC information from Nintendo and officially giving up on trying to buy the N64 from Nintendo after over a year of waiting or just missing it in stock.
Hey, aren’t you that Minecraft Hunger Games guy from back in the day? 😉
Hiii Hank! glad you are doing well :)
Sometimes with the older membranes, if you rub a bit of plain old paper on the connecting element, it will just gently buff the surface and get the button working like new again. Sometimes if the membrane is placed back even slightly differently it causes issues as you’ll see a smoother ‘strip’ on the disk where it’s been pressed against the circuit for all those years. It’s not fool proof but works a surprising amount of times.
This seems like a great way to bring fresh life into controllers that are broken. But personally I would probably just go with the wired adapter, as I still play on my N64 sometimes.
U can still replace the stick
@@hollow314 I did that on one of my controllers a couple of years ago. Feels so much better, but that version isn't as accurate for FPS games. This stick seems better though, so I'll probably end up getting one of these whenever my other stick becomes worn out.
I'm pretty sure that the kits page says that it comes with a wireless adapter, but Bob didn't mention it. The SNES and NES mods come with them though, so it's probably worth checking the store page.
@@ephremHRZNI have an SNES mod kit and it did not come with anything to use it on original hardware.
@@bland9876 Oh, hmm. They do sell the wireless adapter that you can plug into the original hardware, and connect it with. That's what I was thinking of.
I worked at a thrift store for a while, and somebody donated an N64 controller with an obliterated cable (I assume a dog got a hold of it) and a not terrible, but not great thumbstick. Other than that, it’s mint. I got it for free because they tossed it in the garbage. It’s literally perfect for this mod.
This is awesome! I have literally 3 dead controller that I never had the heart to sell or recycle the parts. Now I can bring them back to life after so many years. I’ve always wanted 4 wireless n64 controller to play with the family
This is the only channel where I don’t skip the “built in” adds. That dog is boss.
Internet Historian has cool ads as well
Fun Fact: One N64 game was released with corrupted, glitched music, with lots of Midi errors, corrupted instrument samples and more.
It's called Donald Duck Goin Quackers, which is actually a port of the Dreamcast/PC version (that actually has some great, underrated music!), but has a few original songs that to this day are not as audible as they should be.
The game's TCRF article explains a lot of the music errors. It's crazy!
That's crazy. I grew up with the PC version. What an epic Music OST!
@@QuinquinoMan I love the PC version's ost too. The n64 version however has some exclusive songs that are to this day not audible as they are supposed to.
Fans are working on a repair patch however, which is supposed to be released this year. Noice.
Man, that Gyro's lab theme from the pc version is such a banger!
Interesting fact, 8bitdo did release a n64 controller, but that around the time before the Nintendo switch came out and it was made in collaboration between them and retrobit. If anyone wants more context on this, just hit me back with a comment.
I bought it and had some issues updating the firmware and they told me for legal reasons they couldn't sell it anymore. So the firmware couldn't be updated. So it was pretty obvious what happened. I returned it and now years later I see they're selling pretty good for a profit lol. Should've kept mine.
@@pqskyou’re probably better off buying the official NSO controller if you want an N64 controller still; I have the 8BitDo one and the NSO one, and the 8BitDo one feels super weird compared to the official one. It works super well with the USB adapter that 8BitDo sells.
@@YourResidentBell you missed what I wrote. People are banking off that og one. Making a profit....that just means I could've sold mine for a lot more $ than I paid. That being said, I have the NSO and I use my OG N64 connected with a raphnet adapter to the 8bitdo gbros and both are sweet wireless.
@@pqsk I know people are banking off of it, I didn’t want to mention it cuz I’m one of the people that they banked off of 😭😭😭
I need to get the Raphnet adapter for my original controllers, I’m curious how they would compare to the NSO one
I look forward to getting this soon. Got my childhood N64 controller still with a very wobbly stick. I do wonder if I should do this to it because it is sentimental.. but it does feel nice that I'll be using my old childhood one again, well.. the case of it anyway...
I'll make sure to keep the board safe.
13:20 one small correction here for the feel, the throw values of the 8bitdo stick and the original n64 stick aren't quite the same for the lower values. There is a teeny tiny deadzone on the 8bitdo that isn't present on the original stick, which makes moving at lower values slightly off from what it would be on an original one. However the deadzone is significantly smaller than on other switch controllers (even the pro) so you can actually move slowly with less stick movement than on the pro controllers. Which will also result in it feeling different since less stick movement will already provide ingame movement.
Personally this is currently the best third-party stick for N64 I've tried. It's not as "perfect" for fine, minimal movements as a pristine original N64 stick but it's still much better in that area than any other replacement, be it a Tribute64, a GC controller / stick, or a Pro controller.
If you have an N64 controller with a broken or worn out stick absolutely consider getting this kit. Either only the stick if you want to keep it wired or go the whole mile and combine it with a blueretro adapter.
Those are objectively the currently best solution to get them working again and have a stick you can use on stuff like Mario Party without any concern for breaking them.
I absolutely love when Bob uploads a video! He’s a master!
I love this channel so much. He makes me want to do stuff I had no interest in doing.
This looks really cool and seems pretty easy to do. I honestly kinda wish the original N64 thumbstick would have been like the mod since it is ao mich nicer. Good video Bob.
I literally pre-ordered this as soon as I saw your video, I always wanted to turn my euthentic third-party N64 Controller into a wireless for some time now so I'm glad to know that I can now. Great showcase as well.
12:55 Unfortunately... There is something wrong with the new thumbstick, and it's the octagonal gates, because the N64 controller has a non-perfect octagonal gate, while the new one is a perfect octagon, like a Gamecube Controller. This messes more than it should with the inputs.
I figured that would be the case. I would recommend modding your bowl of your OG stick from the n64 with a steel bowl from BrewStix if you want the og stick feel but with new like feel.
Have you actually checked that? At least when using the 8bitdo stick modules with a Nintendo controller PCB on the N64 it looks a lot more "square" than octogonal, my controllers with refurbished Nintendo style sticks give more octogonal shaped inputs than the 8bitdo.
Note the physical shape of the gate doesn't necessarily map directly to the actual registered inputs due to things like value range, linearity and if there's any processing being done by the "smart" embedded electronics to make the Hall Effect sensors work with a controller expecting data from an optical encoder (which are pairs of digital pulses for each direction, instead of varying voltages). Also, the way N64 games deal with analog inputs is a bit messy...
Cheap clone controllers will usually report a +/-127 range, original Nintendo controllers when new and tight will cap somewhere around 80~85 IIRC, most stuff designed for use in PCs will also have a +/-127 range and may need some mapping/scaling to adjust sensitivity to something sensible on a N64 emulator.
My main worry is that the range of the 8bitdo may not be enough for some games, but I'm not a speedrunner and I don't know specifics of many games. What I could get is +/- 80 for dead on X/Y directions and +/- 67 on the diagonals, not sure if that's enough for all games or it will cause issues on some games.
I have the Retro Fighter's bluetooth controller you showed, and bought the Hyperkin N64 controller because the Retro Fighter's was not in stock at that time. Love them both, they feel great, but I always loved the feel of the original N64 controller. And my original N64 controller, that came with my system, does have a messed up cord, so easy solution here. Thanks a lot for letting people know about this. IU feel like I wouldn't have known about this if not for your video.
That hyperkin dongle allows me to use my old n64 racing wheel on the switch. Makes Cruisin’ Blast a must buy!
So extensive testing by other channels has proven that the hall effect stick actually has some serious sensitivity and analogue stepping issues. It seems to skip steps and have inconsistent dead zone lengths.
Thanks to your video I just randomly looked the N64 controller up at the nintendo store and it's available and will be shipped to me tomorrow. Totally forgot to check regularly if it's in store. Thanks, Bob.
If only they used this one for the submarine...
exactly what i was thinking
lol
@@bromchammer1803 na cause then the controller would move the sub by itself
Crazy ass comment lol
That joke really sunk...
I have never ever purchased anything advertised on TH-cam. I came across this video today and was so impressed by the review I pre-ordered 4 of them. I will update with my review when they arrive.
the n64 controller for switch online is a pain in the ass to try to get since its always sold out. I would totally scoop the 8bitdo set up I have a ton of their products and they are yet to disappoint. Awesome video. I have been trying to get the switch online controller for like a year and always miss out so looks like i have a solution now thanks for the heads up man
It was up for over 12 hours yesterday. :( I was finally able to grab 2 and the max is 4.
@@alexsmith6914 yea man by the time i got on they were all sold out. missed my chance again
Just got mine today and it’s the best! It’s so easy to tear it down and put together. It was worth the wait.
Just as a little correction: I was just at the NYC Nintendo store in May, and bought an N64 controller with no issue. Just had to show I was an NSO member.
Perfect for driving submersibles to do deep sea tours!
The Nintendo 64 controller that is always sold out is back on the website NOW. Yes, it still requires an online paid subscription to buy.
I absolutely love my Retrofighters controller, but this mod is awesome too.
these 8bitdo diy kits are all great. I'v e got the nes, snes, and genesis ones, and I'll definitely be grabbing this one too.
This is AWESOME. 8Bitdo is going to rule the world one day. I hope submarines start contacting 8BitDo for high quality controllers.
Overall 8BitDo are the Goats 😂
They really do care about the Community Very well and they take their time on design
they’re dead
@@brunoob-18bitdo is actually doing their own n64 controller so you might not need to do this anymore.
The best controller I've ever used for the n64 is the Sega Saturn 3d controller adapted to usb the analog stick is great micro switches plus has 6 buttons on the front and 2 triggers and is really comfy
Stop you traitor!! BLASPHEMY!
I love this idea and hope they continue this trend with the gamecube wavebird
Literally the only TH-camr I watch the ad break of - they are just as entertaining
See ya this weekend Mr. Wulff! I got a N64 controller to get signed, thanks! 🐺
This is my new favorite of your mod vids. I’ll definitely be using your affiliate link next week. Thanks for sharing!!
It doesn't necessarily come with the thumbstick. I did the mod and used some thumbstick replacements I got off of eBay. That also works. But I think 8Bitdos thumbsticks are better and not even more expensive. So if you don't already have replacement sticks, just get the ones from 8Bitdo. I think they're the best deal.
I think when it comes to the Z-button it depends on how well its board fits onto the back of the thumbstick. I did two mods, one is perfectly fine and the other one is slightly harder to press. I think it's a case by case situation and depends on how well it fits together with the back of the thumbstick.
It's a fun mod, but it's definitely not an cheap option. I liked doing the mod and I wanted some fancier looking controllers instead of the grey one. So that's why I liked it so much. If you have to buy a controller first, I think I'd rather recommend the official controller.
Also consider if you're thinking long term... it might be easier to get replacement parts for the original controller in the long run. The new controller from Nintendo is a bit different afaik which might make it more difficult to maintain in the future. Just as a thought.
13:20 I highly doubt it's just "how the N64 feels". The thing with the N64 and perhaps especially Mario 64, is you have total control, it really uses every degree of movement so you can make some incredibly precise movements. I'm guessing this replacement stick acts like other replacements do, they tend to snap to the 4 main directions as well as the corners, the original control stick doesn't do so. That's why you feel something is slightly off, switch to an official controller in good condition and you'll notice the difference.
First time I’ve been more interested in the sponsor than the product on the video 😅. It’s not that the mod isn’t good but a better webcam is very needed in this day and age! Specially for remote work!
I did the fun challenge and ordered the mod kit but also ordered the buttons the membrane and an original shell and basically built the controller from scratch. It was actually pretty fun to do.
Now if only they'd do this for the dreamcast controller. Put it in the second memory card slot so you can still use the vmu and make a dongle that plugs into the dreamcast that way you can use an actual dreamcast controller unlike all the other adapters that are just bluetooth adapters for other controllers
I used to restore N64 controllers, especially the thumbstick, and it was a fun experience. I have some Pokemon shell controllers, this might be a neat thing to do. The GameCube stick may feel good, but I've seen benchmark tests showing hella deadzone. I'd use a og thumbstick, if it's still good.
Just ordered this mod kit. Should be getting it next week hopefully.
They actually sent me mine already, even though they said they weren't shipping until July 5th. Can't wait to do the install!
I find the Retro-Bit Tribute pads really good for N64 and Switch. Because they are based on the Hori N64 controller.
They are great but sometimes you just need that first party feel. I would recommend the Retro-Bit over modding an OG controller as some of the screws are just a pain to deal with and not to mention not everyone may have the tools needed (depending on if the tools required weren't provided).
@1:49 I want to add that they DO let you buy them in-store at the NYC store, but they have to be in-stock at the time and you still need to show the person at the register your active Online account on your phone. I had luck getting my Online controllers through them in-store. Availability may vary of course, but it's always worth a shot checking if you're local.
My tip is if any of the controllers show available in-stock online, chances are it's in-stock at the NYC store. If it came back online but sold out quick, keep checking the NYC store around those days as they could just be waiting on their in-store restock shipment. I got my N64 controller last year, but last I was there in October they were sold out of the N64 controller online, but they were available for in-store purchase at a limited quantity. But that's a lot of work to keep checking in person, just do Bob's method at this point lmao
I'm excited to check this mod out! Wonder if it works on the Steam Deck. 🤞
Thanks to WULFF I bought a wired Xbox controller from 8bitdo for my PC and I LOVE IT. Amazing quality for $40. If 8bitdo released an N64 controller I wouldn't think twice about buying it.
I was able to buy my N64 NSO controller at Nintendo NY when I visited. All you have to do is show them that you are a member by logging in on your phone and they'll sell it to you.
You thought I wouldn't notice the Bomberman 64 music didn't you? Blue Resort is awesome
Now, turn it into a submersable controller.
Looks like a fun project. I'll definitely look into it.
Really digging that James Bond theme playing in the background
One caveat to the stick replacement. The arc of the original stick vs the number of digital pulses may not match up with the new stick and the number of it's digital pulses. Hori style N64 sticks have this problem. This may be responsible for odd input feel. I went back to the original stick because of this issue when trying hori style sticks for the N64.
Yep, I got Kitsch-Bent joystick replacement parts, cause I wanna have an OEM style experience without having to deal with wires
Those old controllers have all that baked in anger from smash and Mario kart sessions from 20 years ago .. really wanna bring that to my modern games too
11:24 every one staring at the controller .... ya .... stairx
I got one of their NES boards and a couple adaptors, so I could use it on my NES, NES mini and Switch. The bluetooth pairing is a bit of a hassle, so I tend to just keep it paired with my NES now, but the thing works great, and having one less cable to worry about is always a good thing.
I did this mod a few weeks ago and also had an issue with the Z button membrane fitting to the new board. I ended up using a different membrane fron a 3rd party controller I had lying around.
You can buy the controllers at the store in NYC. I was there in March 2023; you have to ask, show your subscription is current and can only buy 1 of each type.
You should make a compilation of your sponsor segments. I find them really funny.
Came for the energy, stayed for the ad reads.
Ooo this mod looks awesome definitely buying this now!
Oh my god it feels I've come full circle. I subbed to this channel back when Bob was taking a look at the Hori MiniPad.
I was torn that I'd have to gut a 64 controller but you made a valid point find one that's dead and not working 🤌
I wish they had something like this for the GC controller. Sure, they have modern version of it, but they lack the analog triggers, which make it bad for emulating. Or even if they released Joycon versions of it. Again, yes, I know Nyxi released them, but I have the same issues with that.
I've heard the replacement thumbstick on these 8Bitdo adapters is too sensitive compared to the original or the official NSO N64 controller. Thoughts?
All of the GameCube style n64 sticks are overly sensitive in my experience.
@@omegasiferx100 Yeah, that's been my experience for most GCN N64 sticks too. I was hoping 8Bitdo would have found a better way though.
There actually is a cool mod you can do to the $10 GCN sticks that make them have almost the same level of sensitivity as the original sticks, but it is kind of intense. But I have done it successfully about four times.
I've got one of these 8Bitdo controllers ordered, and I'll make a video testing the stick. If it is as bad as the other $10 GCN sticks, maybe I'll make a custom stick mod for this controller too.
I love what Zim has been doing for the company, hopefully he'll become the CEO one day & push the company to greater height's.
This feels similar to when I bought a Gameboy color themed joycon shell. I thought about getting new set of joycons but then realized I could by a used set online cuz the shell kit came with new buttons and a new set of analog sticks was like $5. In total, spent Half the cost in Total compared to the cost of a brand new joycon set.
I think I need to get that kit! thanks for the video
The worst part of the Switch Online N64 controller is not that you need a Switch Online subscription to even buy it but that it can be connected to your PC via Bluetooth but it might be recognized buy an emulator but you can’t actually map any of the buttons to the emulator. Nintendo apparently did this on purpose because they extremely hate emulation. It’s weird though because I own the NES Switch Online controllers and they work on emulators via my PC perfectly fine 😂.
Bob i think you need to try the original stick in that. In my opinion all gc sticks for n64 feel off. They're usually too sensitive.
I don't even bring up the N64 library on my Switch due to how much I dislike using a Pro Controller with them. This mod is making me think about doing it so I can maybe enjoy playing Star Fox and Mario 64
Hey Wulff and anyone else reading this, I was in NY today and went to the Nintendo Store and you can actually buy the N64 controller there! You have to ask for it and still have to be a NSO member. They’ll ask you to sign in to your account on your phone and show it to them but after that you’re good. I still got the receipt too. Please pin!
8bitdo did actually made a N64 controller collab with Retro-Bit with the same original layout and the same original stick as the N64
Regarding the way it’s recognized by the Switch; Maybe you can put it into D-input mode and sync it to a 8BitDo USB adapter so it’ll be recognized as a Pro Controller?
This is what I'm going to do. I have missed every restock for the official NSO N64 controller. After modding GB, GBCs, and GBAs, this will be a piece of cake.
I preordered those immediately when they became available. Thanks to the blueretro I can also still use those controllers on an actual N64. No regrets. It's the perfect solution to Nintendo's stupid attitude of deciding if you're worth it to buy the stupid controller in the first place.
I'm still trying to find a youtube channel that can come up with clever sponsors sections like Bob.
Ok, you need to make a compilation of your ads, just do it by year, they're so good I'd watch an entire video of just the ads, hell, ask if the sponsors will pay again, I reckon they would.
I came in here for the video. Love the ad bits
Can't believe you got rid of a mint n64 control stick.
SM64 Runners going to come after you.
I have the RetroFighters controller and love it! So much more comfortable and easy to use. Now I just wish there was an easy way to play N64 games in handheld mode, as I really can’t get on with those controls.
The NSO Bluetooth version of the Brawler64 is perfect for that purpose.
@@NewGabeOrder that’s the one I have, but I don’t want to take a controller with me if I’m playing in handheld and don’t really want to play in tabletop mode.
That joystick will be perfect for my original Atomic Purple N64 controller that's been sitting in a box for years due to the joystick being unusable.
I have so many n64 controllers, some with bad sticks! This is a great idea.
Idk about the bit where you can't buy the NSO controllers at Nintendo NY. I literally went there for the Mario movie event (they had those Mario shoe replicas on display) and they actually DID have the NSO controllers available to buy. I picked up the N64 controller there on impulse knowing they sell out online very quickly lol. They just needa verify your NSO subscription is all but it takes very little time.
Mayflash came out with an adapter as well that you forgot to mention. It's garbo, but it gives you the accessibility of having 2 controllers plugged in.
i'm curious to know if the controller mod would support GB/GBC passthrough for Pokemon Stadium and Stadium 2's gameboy center? that would be next level
0:04 If they didn't run that well then they wouldn't have made it for the n64. They ran just fine. Yes sure there was some framerate issues sometimes but literally at the time what game didn't on their OG hardware.
Waiting for mine to arrive.
0:13 I don't agree. I use a DualShock 4 with a bluetooth adapter on my N64, and it works great, even for FPS. I just set the second analog stick to the C-buttons.
They're already available... my kit came last week. Maybe its just a pre order for the next batch.
it’s “oct-tog-a-nul” gates. Great video as usual!
You are such a huge TH-camr, you earned your ways in life. You got a beautiful set up. I don’t like to like these kind of TH-camrs. I like your channel a lot
Your ads are top tier man, so creative 🤣🤣
love it , i already have an empty atomic purple shell too
I love these types of videos!!!! Bob is awesome ☺️🫶🏻
Honestly, the N64 controller is best used for games like Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie, Sin & Punishment, Paper Mario, Star Fox 64, Zelda (both), Goldeneye/Perfect Dark... You know, the games that fully utilize the C buttons for many aspects of the gameplay besides camera controls. The controller is the whole reason n64 emulation is awkward. Always need to reconfigure the controls to make it work for a Pro Controller, and the Switch doesn't even let you have that luxury (at least not in a convenient sense).
I may look into this for getting a second N64 controller for switch.
1:47 I actually bought it from the Nintendo store in New York like in August of last year, was lucky enough to go to America last year and took the opportunity to buy it there, but I have no idea if they might have changed that now
You should clean the Z membrane scraping it into a piece of paper and clean the Z board with IPA. Everything should be fine; This is the sturdiest controller ever.
This is the solution to a problem costing me alot to fix
They need to make a wireless receiver for this to play with the original n64. I'd buy a 4 pack of this and that in a heartbeat.
I might actually try this. Thanks.
I wish 8bitdio sold some transparent color “rumble packs”like that awesome extreme green color. Just to martch