I want people to start saying, "You can't steal from a store that doesn't exist." This isn't like movies or music where you can buy all of it through different mediums. There is literally no place to buy these games where the publishers and developers see that money.
Though I agree, it's still stealing/piracy. It's up to the creators of the games/content to decide if they want their stuff up for sale at any given time.
I doubt that would unless we get into the government and that’s if Japan companies like Sony and Nintendo don’t lobby the US government to make this stuff truly illegal
“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem…” - Gabe Newell. Also, I gladly gave the hShop devs $100 because they are doing so much for 3DS preservation. Thx, guys!
This might be a hot take, but the reasons others don't talk about this is not only because they don't want to get in trouble, but to also not get sites/apps like the hshop in the spotlight and in trouble by people like Nintendo. I'm glad more people are finding out about stuff like the hshop, emulation, and how piracy is usually okay, but putting these kinds of sites/apps in the spotlight by making videos or writing articles about them can do as much harm as good. Especially once the info starts becoming mainstream
"but to also not get sites/apps like the hshop in the spotlight and in trouble by people like Nintendo" i agree with this the most, i always say to people just keep it to themselves because so many times this shit happened.
@@dullicecream see? this is why i sighed whenever someone give a spotlight to a pirate source particularly content creators. Nintendo perhaps already know but don't shed the light further
You won't regret it. Just follow the guide carefully, double check your work, and you'll have it done in about an hour. There's several handy apps you should get after the fact that make the console so much better. Like a theme manager for custom themes, or an FTP to transfer files between your 3ds and another device without having to remove the SD card. Also things like amiibo emulators/unlockers for several games. And of course, twilight menu++ and an NDS forwarder to put downloaded DS games right on your 3DS home menu with the added benefit of having access to cheats. Most of these aren't covered in the guide because they're not necessary to jailbreak, but they're must-haves in my opinion.
I think the SECOND any media goes out of production (ie. The company can't make any more money on it since they stopped support/ making copies etc.) It should be free to do whatever with.
I feel like it should be noted that production and sale are two separate areas. To give a more modern example, Xenoblade 2 was "out of production" at release, as there was never a reprint for the first two years after its release in the west. This was a pretty big issue around the DS era for certain games. The etrian odyssey series was known for being heavily inflated at resale due to limited reprints.
Finally a sane discourse on emulation and piracy. If they won't sell it, then it should be public access. Copyright laws are completely out of control and abused by companies like Disney and Nintendo.
This is one of the good aspects of Iger's Disney over Eisner's. Sure there's a bunch of unoriginal and bland live-action movies coming out but every thing is just freely available, which is great
@@Mrtyjr doesn't matter if it's their "Intellectual Property" we literally can't access these old games legitimately, and besides the current copyright law is broken and completely stupid
Remember kids, piracy is always morally correct when the people you're trying to get these games from are actively trying to prevent you from getting and playing said games.
I'll give my two cents about piracy. I live in a 3rd world country, and is also a country with a LOT of anime fans. We where weaboos even before this was popular in the US. But Most Anime and Manga never got a national release (and when it did, it was either heavily censored or cancelled midway) Brasilian Anime community survived and grew solely on scanlations and fansubed DVD rips. Today it is one of the biggest anime markets out of japan Piracy can be good
Thank you Homebrewers and hackers for keeping videogame history alive. Certain DLCs are inaccessible now with the eshop closed forever, so you guys are my last resort and last hope.
Exactly. Piracy is now the only way to access the DLC for, say, Fantasy Life, unless you've already got it. And to lose access to that would be a great loss - Fantasy Life is an amazing game and the DLC adds so much. I did everything I possibly could in the base game before I got the DLC and by the time i had dome everything I could with the DLC, I had half again the playtime I'd had when I had finished the base game. That's a lot of extra content for a DLC
@@maverickmic That and the Minish Cap were the first games I got after homebrewing my 3DS. They really should have made the Ambassador games available for everyone before the eShop closed.
"hackers" and "pirates" will voluntarily private message, then walk you through a 60 step process to ensure you got your games working perfectly and then play them with you to the last boss before you even get an automated response from publishers saying "Your troubleshooting email was received"
I forgot to download the FE Revelation DLC which contains the path with the true ending to the story of the game I paid for (I will always spite them for this design decision) before the shop shut down and I was pretty bummed about it. Good to know there are other ways to obtain it
Nintendo Fan: Hey, may I give you my life savings on these amazing games? Nintendo: No. Nintendo Fan: **Pirates the game as last resource** Nintendo: *HOW DARE YOU-*
Gabe Newell got it absolutely right when he said that piracy is a service problem. When I want a game, the first place I check is Steam. I have a lot of wishlisted Steam games that I'm waiting for a sale on. I could probably spend hours figuring out how to download some of them, but I'm okay with waiting a few weeks and buying the games for cheap if it means that I can get the convenience of Steam. If developers like Nintendo embraced emulation and made an online storefront so I could buy their games on PC for a few dollars, I might even use that instead. But for games I wouldn't be able to play legally due to exclusivity.. 🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Yet keeping a storefront like that open won’t give much. Nintendo is a business that has to keep profits stable, and if something is taking more money than it’s earning they have to cut it off. That’s exactly why the 3DS/WiiU eshop shut down, because they’re old consoles that went out of date. Even if they allowed things to be emulated on switch, emulation is a hard thing. It took years for something like dolphin to emulate some games on a device that’s 10 years old. Even Microsoft’s new generation Xbox’ have a limited list of old games, because emulation is hard, and it gets more complicated for each game. Steam is great because PCs are a whole other ecosystem, and are essentially on the same ecosystem, like with directX or OpenGL, or Vulkan. A modern PC could still play something from the 90s, and MSDos games are soo old, anything can emulate them. And If Nintendo starts releasing old games on something like steam, no one will buy their consoles.
@Thewaterspirit57 I highly, highly doubt that the 3DS/WiiU eShops costed more to operate than they generated in revenue. Besides, they're still open, just with no ability to buy. They shut them down purely to keep people from having access to the shops instead of using the Switch. It also was a convenient way to kill virtual console so they could push the subscription on Switch.
@@GoldenSun3DS literally revenue has been going down for the 3DS/WiiU since the switch’s launch, then it got to the point where they couldn’t maintain the servers on that revenue alone. Literally the only time they got a good amount of revenue, was when they announced the shop was closing, which was a quick little flicker in their revenue over the years for those systems. Also you forget that the Wii U had really poor sales, so be happy they kept it open for this long.
Finally GTA3 on my tiny 3ds. Also a recently released competent fan translation of EX Troopers a Japanese only release. And I know it was already reviewed on this channel how ps1 emulation through retroarch isn’t too great on the n3ds. However I’m still using a previous version of that emulator-I don’t recall the development number-but it runs most games just fine at or near 60 fps. It’s surprisingly great.
Funnily enough GBA games in the 3DS are not virtual console, they're not emulated. They run on real hardware, with zero latency, in a special BIOS mode that handles the second screen and the interaction with the OS. Only some things like the cartridge port are emulated.
he's totally right nintendo literally deprives people of classic games in their library not providing them on any modern consoles they support, its a scam that they do this to the consumers. Nintendo however would rather look for ways to legalize the death penalty for piracy
@@kelesar fr dude i don't see what one has to do with the other especially with something prob less than 1% of the global population experienced to begin with
This an incredibly over exaggerated take on gaming preservation, I like video games but they’re an unimportant luxury at the end of the day. Plus no video games have that much of a cultural impact, all it did was bolster the entertainment industry. This isn’t George Orwell 1984, in fact it’s one of the warnings Orwell gave in his novel, that people like you suddenly glorify the distraction and over inflate the value of gaming to “cultural history”
I was a 2000s kid but missed out on all the tech and media that came out during the 2000s/2010s because games and TV were off-limits in my family. Now that I’m an adult, I decided I wanted to catch up on all that I missed, and I bought my New 3DS XL just a few months ago! Naturally, the eShop closing down so soon was pretty upsetting, as well as the fact that much of the 3DS’s network functionality is gone. I’m so excited that projects like the hShop and Pretendo Network are keeping old Nintendo content and functionality alive!
@@CommanderWiggins I’ve been enjoying it immensely! 😆 Just today I spent a lot of time playing and comparing different versions of Tetris from the hShop (Tetris Axis is probably the best, BTW)! 😂☺️
I just dug out my old 3DS after seven years thanks to the recent Etrian Odyssey rereleases only to find out support was recently dropped, really sucks. Feels like I barely got much out of the console besides 1000 hours in MH4U and now it's obsoleted.
@@NGRevenant That does suck 😒 I hope you haven’t installed the latest update-I don’t know for sure, but I’ve heard it was supposed to make consoles that hadn’t been modded yet harder to hack. Modding your 3DS is a lot easier than you’d think. I’m not at all technical, but I followed some tutorials and was able to do it successfully on my first try. The 3DS Hacks Guide is probably the best and safest way to go if you want to try it. 😊
I love that hShop is getting the love it deserves but simultaneously I feel like someone as big as you mentioning it is gonna put a big target on its back for Nintendo 🙁
@@accountid9681 they can still issue a cease and desist to the owners of the website... unfortunately this video has likely put a target on hshop now and wulff den should seriously take the video down.
@@tobi_dfwt8226 lawsuits only work in Europe, and the USA. File hosts in Russia, china, Singapore, etc are gonna just ignore you, hence the term bulletproof
@RiversCuomo_ Yesterday I tried to download the Japanese version of Style Savvy Trendsetters because it had a Japanese only DLC I wanted to play. It just stayed on a black screen and wouldn't boot up. The hshop version too
@@MnemonicHeadTrip Luma does region unlock games but for example, a Japanese console will still only display in Japanese. However region unlocking entirely with Luma is also really easy
Hshop has been around for years, but with the sudden influx of people talking about it and people that want to get 3ds games, I wouldn't be surprised if gets shut down sadly...
Been using it for years, and hope it doesn't get closed anytime soon, because it has been the best option to get games for the console. I do miss when they offered injects, though.
@@blixzero0 Not only that, but you don't need an eShop replacement. People can host the .cia files anywhere on the internet and not even Nintendo's ninjas will be able to stop every single one.
I'm kinda scared of all this attention to the Hshop may catch Nintendo's attention, I hope there's enough people out there backing the H shop's library
There are a lot of other sites that have the games available for download. If the Hshop closes, down, stuff just gets a little harder. But you can still access almost everything.
I am very pro piracy, especially if there is no legal way to buy it. What I do is pirate things, play them, and if I ended up really enjoying them I find different games from the same publisher and buy them on steam to show them some support.
It is still legally fishy to just decide not to pay a dev for a game you paid for, just because you didn’t like it, but besides that I’d say your idea and method is pretty sound!
@@nyxelithias that’s only for the indie devs, most of the money that big company make come from the micro transactions these days. If someone doesn’t like the game, why buy it? The entry fee the publisher is charging won’t necessarily change a lot in their balance sheet
@@jamespond-jl4oq not necessarily. It is a “we problem”. I’m pro piracy as well, but my take is that the mtx whales makes it worse for the rest of us. I pirate because I don’t like mtx in games, and I doubt any sane person who enjoys a single player story driven game or even a multiplayer story driven game would say otherwise. There’s a reason bg3 sold like it did while payday 3 got dumped in trash. It is an industry wide problem that the gaming sector is slowing shifting games to a software as a service model, rendering both hardware and software useless once their servers get shutdown.
I bought a 3ds literally 2 years ago. As a kid, my parents never had the money to afford luxury goods like it. The only console I had was a Gameboy, when PSPs were the go to choice. My parents bought me knock off GBA cartridges from dodgy shops just so I could have an entertaining childhood and I love them for it. Now that I'm in my 20s, and have some disposable income, I've been buying things I always wanted to experience. The 3DS was one of those things, when I heard it was getting discontinued. I would love to spend the money I now have, and buy these games properly. But I can't. I'm years late on the topic, but I'm finally ready now. I don't want to just put it down when I KNOW I can experience some of the most amazing things ever created. So I pirate. I homebrewed. People might call me a thief or whatever, and I won't shirk away from it. At the end of the day, if I were to be tried in court, I would be facing criminal charges. Do I regret it though? No. I'm experiencing the childhood I never got to experience.
grew up very similarly but instead of a gameboy it was a ds with the r4 card. just did it on my 3ds and there are so many awesome games I have never heard of
I put my Wang in a pigeon NGL was a very tight hole I destroyed the pigeon NGL my Wang went through its hole and came out it's mouth I exploded was hot NGL now I own a Nintendo switch I cry for my 3DS..
Calling pirating games streaming is like calling digging thru garbage stealing. It's not getting used, they don't want to do anything with it, they've essentially gotten rid of it.... There's no harm
same dude, i am in in my late teen years, gaming consoles are roughly about 100k+ in my currency and thats a lot, i am currently learning graphic designing which i aim to have a career with but i am not really earning anything right now and i dont want to burden my parents by asking for those stuff, but i really want to play those games, i am always trying to find emulators and game sites for free on my mobile, even this is at least good for me, these previllaged people will never understand how shitty it is to live in 2023 with a lifestyle of 2013...
Fun fact: I believe that piracy is ok if the device has lost it's lease on life, I.E. the services it provides have been shut down and it becomes a technology advanced paperweight.
Piracy is also justified when companies force intrusive DRM onto customers. DRM doesn't punish pirates, it only punishes the honest, if you implement harsh DRM into your game, well "you get what you fucking deserve."
While nintendo can push a Cease and Desist order, i'm not sure that will matter much. Putting the content as a torrent will make it impossible to stop, and you can just change the name and say 'Hshop as stopped... however there's a 99.99% identical one called Tshop...' eventually 'F*** nintendo shop' will crop up.
Ever since I got my 3DS, it was strictly a Pokemon system because I was a broke college student who had a tiny budget for gaming. By the time I had a decent career, I just grew out of the 3DS. But with the shop closing, I decided to hack my 3DS to grab hShop and man, it's been the best thing I've done in awhile. I haven't played my 3DS this much in years and it's so cool to finally check out all of the games I never had the chance to play.
What I can't help but notice is that they didn't have to disable the ability to buy games there. _The server is still up to ensure that people can update games and redownload games that they own._ This is still true for the DSi and Wii shops, too! Everything is there, all of the game files are in the database, and the servers are running. Nintendo just switched off the ability to buy anything. Seriously, they even could've made it so that the only way to buy them is from the website using your linked account (which was possible before the "shutdown"). That would be annoying, but still not as bad as what they did. It was unnecessary.
That’s because it costs nothing to keep up less than half the servers needed to allow for redownloading stuff. Nintendo and other companies have lots of servers for digital game shops, not just the one in the companies country origin like most people think. Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, and Valve have servers all around the world for their games. But Nintendo couldn’t keep Wii U and 3DS Eshops open due to lowered sales over time, and security risks. Old games never go off sale on steam, because it’s a unified platform.
@@Thewaterspirit57 Your point has validity, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still possible to download things. And if they want to shut off a lot of the servers, that's fine, since traffic on that platform has slowed down substantially. I just don't understand why we can't still buy games from the website with our accounts, even if we can't buy directly from the consoles anymore. I'm pretty sure that's what Sony did with the PSP.
The problem isn’t having the servers to host the games. The problem is the running costs of operating a storefront in pretty much every country in the world, complying with all the different regulations continuously, invoicing, license agreements, etc. They were likely losing money on it. I’m a big fan of the Wii U, but how much Wii U software do you think they sold in the last months before they announced the shutdown?
@@kekchanbiggestfan Actually lots of people rushed to buy lots of stuff on Wii U and 3DS before the close, but before?…. The sales of software on each system had been slowly going down since the switches release, with some 3DS games keeping it going somewhat, but still dwindling. The 3DS was discontinued in 2019, which marked the end of the thing.
I was born to course the seven seas (of the internet) and yes, it is indeed wonderful. Been maintaining and customizing my 3DS for 4 years now and is sure feels great to not be constrained by whatever Nintendo pulls, another great thing to note is that CFW has reached such a point in which bricking your 3DS is almost impossible now, so I welcome anyone who's interested into giving it a chance, is as easy as following a step by step guide.
yep, and the truly immoral act is the large publisher-aggregators taking all the credit and all the rights, paying the actual artists and programmers peanuts in comparison. don't forget the subscription services, too! as for rewarding nintendo and the likes for putting up even a few games digitally, over and over again? uh, nope... HARD no. you're by extension rewarding the literal crusades they wage not just against pirates, but loyal/dedicated fans. also, 15 years is already too long for a reasonable copyright term, especially one not controlled by the actual artists, who were contractually forced to hand-over their rights [even their LIVES] to soulless corporations because it was the only way to even make a living pursuing that career.
the devs don't control their games half the time. publisher-aggregators hold all the rights and the creators get fucked. copyright hasn't been serving the artists' interest in a while. and in the digital insta-copy era, is a fruitless effort. lest we actually want SOPA/PIPA/ACTA to pass some day, they're not the system going out of control but kicking and screaming because it doesn't want to die.
My opinion on piracy is that it absolutely is not theft. Think about it, if you steal a car for example, that car is now in your possession but no longer in the possession of the person you stole it from. If you pirate a piece of software however, all you are doing is copying something from one place to another, so nobody actually loses anything. At most you could say that the company misses out on profit if you pirate something, but if it's something you can't even buy brand new anyway then that argument is void.
4:51 If you want that "haven" of piracy, Vimm's Lair is a good place to find stuff like that. It's not very sketchy at all, and it has almost every game released from the NES to the PS3. Only downside is slow download speeds.
I don't understand why he doesn't use an adblocker. And simply googling it sounds like a recipe for malware disaster. Being on Linux myself, I don't have to worry about malware, but I still make sure I at least get roms from sources I know I trust in the very unlikely chance there actually is some Linux malware in a file. I typically go to The Internet Archive first and only download things from other sources if TIA doesn't have what I'm looking for.
I remember watching Jirard's video and how both the banks they were using and nintendo tried to stop Jirard's team to get every single piece of digital games and DLC on the eShop before it shut down.
14:34 Yes, some games _are_ available elsewhere. But given how incredibly simple and safe it is to download them on a 3DS, I now have a method of test running games that I otherwise wouldn't have bought before. So that if I ultimately enjoy the games that I played, I will most likely purchase them later down the line via whatever official means I can. This is how I was introduced to the Azure Strike Gunvolt series.
There are a handful of games that I worked on that were only available on the EShop. I didn't realize until last week that it was closing down, I'm really thankful for the hshop! I'd seriously have lost a couple of them without it!
I homebrewed my New 3DS XL recently, and it was sooooo easy. I did what the guide said, and whenever something wasn't working, that case was already considered and there was a solution. Overall, a really satisfying experience.
I remember wanting to buy Pokémon crystal 3ds boxed version cause it was one of my favorites games and I really wanted a physical copy, but then i found out it was just a box with a download code inside, it was really disappointing. Why can't they just sell the physical copies of this games?! People would buy them.
Logistics of printing physical games, especially one as small in file size as a game boy game, is absolutely not worth it for the publisher. That there was even a box sold is a "gift," as they 100% did not have to do that
This is a brave video to make and I appreciate it bro. I already knew what the hShop was before this but what does Ninendo, Sony and Microsoft want you to do when they pull these shenanigans.
Also Xbox (Microsoft)'s backward compatibility support is best in the industry by a fucking mile. Xbox consoles can even play old PS and Nintendo games (check out MVG for that one)
@@prodyg Because Sony tried to close down but backed off after backlash for PS3 and Vita while they did took down the PSP though... While 360 store is slowly losing things and most likely gonna get dropped off besides those games that are BC compatible... But even so couple those games have been removed. Only a matter of time for those stores.
I'm glad this video hasn't been taken down yet. I have some games that I bought on the eshop but wasn't able to redownload in time when I got a different 3DS as well as 3DS games that I lost or don't have anymore so I'll definitely give this a go. May you be spared from Nintendo's legal wrath as long as possible.
I love how you and many other TH-camrs are telling people about this because it’s an amazing thing but I also feel that it was better off being somewhat hidden and you’ve started the doomsday clock to the inevitable cease and desist coming to the creators of the hshop from Nintendo.
honestly i think the solution is that people create a self aware AI that hires AI employees that just keeps preserving the hshop and the creators abandon ship and give the AI full control eliminating all liability, because I don't think anyone can sue an AI itself
I had specifically hesitated on using the homebrew route due to wanting to still use Pokemon Bank, but didn't know if my console would get banned from having homebrew. This is a bit of a relief that I am very mistaken.
I was trying to research about this; aren’t there two types of transfer apps? I’m not big into Pokemon, but modding my n3dsxl had me going down a rabbit hole.
One word of advice, while I was able to get a Pokémon all the way through to Pokémon Sheild from White 2, don't try to use bank or home with obviously modified Pokémon. So a shiny Victini, which is still impossible without hacking, will almost definitely get you flagged on bank and/or Home. Just wanted to put that out there.
@@Insert.Oregano This is critical! There are tools on PC that let you examine a pokemon and will inform you if its a legal configuration. I'm sure if it dosen't already exist someone will make a 3ds homebrew tool that can do the same.
@@BrandonDoran00 I guess I forgot that part. I've used a tool on the system that can check for that as well. I did write not to try 'obviously' hacked mons, but I think that wasn't clear enough. Thanks for adding that context
i don't have a 3ds but watching this video helped shed some light to emulation. i only know about it from emulating GBA and NDS on PC but my phone lets me do GBA just fine. And I've been watching a lot of your videos where you show us devices from 3rd parties and devices in general that run homebrew and it's all just wild. thank you for your videos. they're binge friendly.
Honestly, I really appreciate you talking about this. This is legitimately a huge issue with the gaming marketplace right now, especially as we continue moving into a "digital-only" space. Hell, the PS5 even has a model that ONLY supports digital games. It's only a matter of time until this goes to court again. Just a matter of when. Hopefully major publishers will recognize the value in making their games available long-term.
Been fully supporting CFW on a 3DS since I found out it was a thing. Every time I see my 3DS, I always get a little excited to see what I can figure out what to do with it, there's so much!
My take: Give us an avenue to obtain it legit or people will generally find their own avenue for better or worse. Piracy has its negatives, like not giving money to the creators (not like they get any however through resale), but it also has its positives. One very prominent positive is preservation, as many a product, video game or otherwise, would be dead and gone if not for people pirating certain games. Another one is to show that something has a market or still has a market, as something wouldn't be pirated unless people actually cared about it. Heck, a huge reason why anime became so popular over in the west was piracy and fan subs. It showed that something like that could actually have a global market.
It's in line with the flow of the video, but I ended up pausing half way through the video a few hours ago and actually hacking my 3ds finally thanks to you. Ended up finishing the video as it booted up to the home brew menu. Pretty simple and I'm looking forwards to my 3ds providing entertainment a bit longer. Thanks for the push, great video.
I’m sad that the Eshop is gone. As a monster hunter fan a LOT of the best games in the franchise are stranded on both the 3DS and wiiU so it’s only makes it harder for new fans to play older games that they might love
Yo bro does online multiplayer hunts work for a pirated copy or will u get banned? (And what about for any other game that has online in general?) Also if u create a digital copy from ur physical copy of a game will your game save be transferred too?
if its abadonware then yea . which aplies on lot of software from nintendo . piracy pc games on another hand feels like dick move if ports are available , unless you own license from before ,feel free to crack game
Pirating Harvest Moon 64 out of curiosity as a kid, is why I'm so nostalgic for the franchise and why I went on to buy virtually every Harvest Moon and Rune Factory game since then. I've bought way more games thanks to piracy than I ever would have otherwise. And that's on top of owning the Snes classic, a Nintendo Online subscription, etc. Had it not been for piracy, I likely would have "grown out of" video games growing up. It was piracy that helped fuel my passion for gaming, and why my collection has grown as large as it has. There wouldn't be Nintendo Switch games on my shelf like there are now if it hadn't been for piracy.
I found a 3ds at Goodwill last week and I’m loving getting to play all of the games that I missed. Luckily I’ve been slowly collecting the physical games when i found them for cheap for years now knowing that one day I’d be able to play them.
@@TheDavidish not really, it was just a part of the 3ds community fhat knew about it, but now a lot of youtubers mentioned it so it's probably in danger if nintendo notices them. Also the same guys run myrient, which has games for every single console I can imagine, including nintendo ones(except switch since theyre scared), so tyat could draw even more attention from nintendo
Got a hacked New 3DS XL for the first time exactly one year ago and it's been an absolute delight, I'm planning on getting a 2DS for my sister and I'm definitely using this method with it.
I definitely agree with your take Bob. In this case, the emulation is morally neutral and isn’t hurting anyone if the games are lost to time. If the games are still available from official channels and not individual resellers, then yah that’s morally shady. But otherwise? Glad I can still unlock the legendary Fire Emblem Fates DLC :)
There are also issues of remasters just not being good. So, games like the Silent hills HD and Ratchet and Clank trilogy are better off played with a ps2.
You already said everything I could say about the matter, so I'll just say 2 more things: 1st: I always wondered what the people behind the emulations get from putting so much hard work into it. Are they really just video game lovers like us who want to see these titles preserved and keep them available? 2nd and completely unrelated and out of context: I love your hair, it looks very cool 👍
Some years ago, the MCU was putting out this 'chest' that had every movie up to that point in it, I think it might have been 'The Infinity Saga Collector's Edition' (it came out the day after the release of Pokémon Sword and Shield). Mind you, I owned some of these movies already but because I bought like that weird Iron-Man special edition (the plastic case that looks like the helmet, those were weird times) I wanted a nice uniform look, plus all in 4k Bluray! Anywho, it was a BestBuy exclusive and was like $600+. So I showed up at my local BestBuy right as they opened hoping to get one. None of the employees knew what it was and the BestBuy website listing now showed sold out. So I went out and sailed the seas to get every movie. I had the money to give, I wanted to give them the money... they spammed articles about this thing but it was basically scalpers only.
great video! people should not be afraid to be honest and state the reality of the situation -- piracy is often the only means of preservation when it comes to legacy content, especially when dealing with digital-only storefronts or rare, obscure games. i believe that the designers of these games would prefer that the games get played in any capacity rather than be lost to time.
I’ve seen a lot of comments saying this but i agree with it Its not piracy when the only place you would be able to buy it doesn’t exist anymore. And Personally i dont think its piracy if you own the game already (legally) like i emulate my games that i own because i want to mod them or I WANT ANOTHER ISLAND ANIMAL CROSSING.
The best thing I did with two of my Hacked 3DS's was copy New Super Mario Bros. 2 on both of them and play two player with my brother like we did when we were younger, probably the most fondest memory I can now re-experience ☺️
I'm in the middle of the video - I thought I am the only maniac to own Sonic Adventure 2 on every available platform... I think I fell in love with you.
I think a big note here is the fact that in most cases, if you pirate a game, you weren't going to buy it anyway. It was either going to be free, or you were never going to try it. Matt Stone and Tray Parker (creators of South Park) said the same thing about their show being pirated. They had no problem with it because sales-wise it makes no sense to worry about lost profits because statistically speaking, they were never going to make those profits to begin with.
I disagree. They said in the commentary that in their case, piracy didn’t hurt them, it actually helped them. People like me that didn’t have Comedy Central had no other way of seeing it, or in some cases even know about it. So we pirated it. And then we became fans, showed it to our friends who also became fans, they showed more friends and so on. Now, 20 years later, I am a die hard fan, and I have spent plenty of my money on South Park in the form of dvds, video games, and plenty of other merch. So, yes they may not have made money off of me in the short term, they knew they had a good product and while they didn’t give it away for free, they didn’t stop anyone from pirating it because they knew it would help them in the long run. And in the case of video games, I have personally never downloaded a rom of a game I didn’t already own, unless it was unobtainable otherwise. And like they said, that is morally neutral. It helps no one, but hurts no one.
Your earlier video inspired me to cfw my New 2DS XL, and of course I had to give this hshop a try. Although my main reason for cfw-ing it is just that I don't have to bring those 5 or 6 cartridges I constantly used back in the day. I don't really need more games, but it's just very nice, how convenient that platform _could've_ been. And luckily, with things like this, it still is.
Saw this video as my first of the morning video, then explained to the wife I'm hacking the 3DS this weekend. When she side eyed me? I knew I was roght as in lack of cohesive capable thought I still managed to explain to her that since Nintendo shot down their shop, her console is useless if she ever wants to buy anything for it. When she did not argue, I knew I had the moral high ground like that Obi Wan vs. Anakin battle (her lack of arguing back is always my moral testing ground, LOL). Nintendo did wrong, and she knows it. Now I can breath life back into her little hand held Co sole again. And to gurther justify the whole "pirates are the largest purchasers" debate? We plan on getting a Switch next week, finally. Guess whats not getting hacked? The Switch. Edit in: this video has the moral high ground as well and makes my insides warm to see. So, subscribed. Thanks!
I really hope the shop doesn't close after a big youtuber talks about it, cause it's so good... But I hope not too much attention is brought to this awesome thing now...
Can't thank you enough for bringing this app to my attention. I've been meaning to add CFW to one of my 3DS units, this pushed me over the edge and I couldn't be more happy with the results. Great work man, love your content!
Also this is good for the future generation as well. We have no control in when and how long these games are in service. The company does. Not to mention we don’t have control of when we learn about these games. Some of us just don’t get into it until after it’s gone. It has happened to me as well. And that is just due to life and many other factors. Also some are just not fortunate enough to gain access to a device that can play it.
Ironically, had a friend of mine way back when who helped me convert quite a bit of my games collections into something more emulator-friendly, which is why I have roms of those games to this day. I'm glad a homebrew 3DS gives me anothe avenue into game preservation too.
piracy is just a word the companies use to justify their actions against their customers , us .... piracy translates to " someone is removing the original item from the rightful owner " ...... so this here is sharing information and sharing information is not a crime by any means since it does not remove in anyway possible the original item from the company . so your title is : "The 3DS eShop lives on, thanks to Sharing "
Modding my 3DS, man oh man. I never thought I’d do it when I bought mine 7 years ago, but with the way things are now, it’s a no-brainer. Enjoying this more than my Switch when I had it lol
10:50 you don't even need to download it through your microsd card, if you click "remote install" then "scan QR code", you can just scan the QR code seen on screen and then hShop is on your 3DS; turned a 1 minute ordeal into a 30 second ordeal :D
Can you please explain a bit more clearly, scan the code with which camera. I'm guessing the 3DS, and that will use the built in browser to download into my device itself?
@@dri_him everything i mentioned is in the FBI application on your modded 3DS, every 3DS will have it as it is what’s used to load cia files, but as i mentioned, you can just scan a qr code with the 3DS’ camera with the FBI app
The only unfortunate thing is that the 3ds has a limited data intake so it slows down the downloads a lot compared to getting it in your SD Card then installing through FBI
Section on pirates and spending is so true. I love Super Robot Wars. Most of them aren't available in the west. I imported 3 of them for the Switch, waited months for them to show up, and had to navigate through the eshop on both japanese and taiwanese accounts to get my preorder dlc for them. I will jump through a lot of hoops.
All that I know is I'm an indie developer and I know at some point down the road and even right after I release my game in a few years there's going to be people pirating it and literally nothing I can do so I don't even consider that a loss of sale. In fact at a certain point we plan on making the game free to everybody in like 15 years or something like that.
it's not a loss of sale and cannot be proven such because it's a logical fallacy. one that many [actually] wise old men have brought-up : "don't count your chickens before they hatch". pirates couldn't pay, were region-blocked, or simply never intended to pay. also, piracy at the end of the day gets the word out you have a product service. maybe i'm playing a game i pirated and a friend comes-over, only they decide to buy it. maybe i pirated it at first and later i finally buy the full/legal version [this is a big part of how minecraft became what it was, whether or not mojang or the community at large wants to admit it] where piracy legitimately hurts a company : next to no sales [rare, for this to happen, it has to be something like hatchette where theyy created a situation where people don't WANT to give them a cent [like trying to shut-down/usurp public libraries] ignoring their soaring profits, guaranteed the most money they "lose" is through fighting piracy. rather, let's call it what it is : sharing. you will almost never see an indie studio mounting a copyright lawsuit. because they know it's a loss. same as some random smuck will be made example of by the large conglomerates because the distribution hubs are an unkillable hydra-like beast [ >:D ] so you need to use mafia-esque shake-downs on the small fries. being the small indie against anyone else is typically a lost cause. david vs goliath battles where david comes-out on top are rare. this applies for all legal matters. deeper pockets, better performances. and as for DMCA, it's a request. DMCA "works" because 9/10, neither party wants to deal with the courts. i more or less reached the same conclusion. also, in 15 YEARS, by GAWD, a studio should've made something FRESH. whatever you think about notch and his... uhm... opinions/statements, one of many of the reasons he sold-off mojang/minecraft is because he was severely disappointed in them as a "creative" company. he wanted them to make other games. they've long since canned every other project and don't make anything new. just collaborate [and likely assimilate, cuz...M$] external studios to make spin-offs using the minecraft brand. and ofc, they continue to update the game which, he had interest in making open source some day. and...sry for the textwall... been doing that a lot lately...
I agree completely with your point. Sure its a "hot take" but its true. These companies are killing games and piracy is preserving it, whether they like it or not. Even if you didn't own these games by yourself, you should be allowed to experience the amazing titles from the 20th century like anyone else. And if you can by it from the original sellers, then I am entitled like any other fan, to play it myself. There are so many amazing games on these titles that always looked so good as a kid, but since the gameboy and other consoles are gone, I would have no way to experience the amazing games from that century.
Wow Bob, I'm just running through the possible legal scenarios you'd face, but then this stuf you've already got figured out. Kudos to you for sharing your stance on piracy and how the unavailability of games affects gamers.
Very respectable discussion on the topic. Hugely appreciate this. I've been advocating for 3DS piracy for a long time, so I'm glad it's getting more attention now.
About buying 3ds games to support the developer, I’ll only help if you buy them brand new from a retail store, if you buy a used copy it won’t help the dev, not even if the used copy came from a store, if it’s used it won’t make revenue to the dev anymore, so just downloading it for free won’t do any damage, or buy if you can afford it and you want it physically, just know that buying it second hand won’t help anyone, you can just buy it on steam to help the dev and download it for free on the 3ds too so you can play it there
In my opinion, piracy is almost always a good thing. Big corporations like Nintendo make things incredibly expensive, Im broke. They can live if a couple people don’t give them hundreds of dollars to buy some things. It’s different for indie developers. I will buy Hollow Knight as many times as I need to have it on every console I own. Indie devs deserve the money. Corporations don’t.
The thing is, imagine if a large amount of people (say, near majority( saw it the same way you do. Then you've got many, many people never buying the games, only pirating, and what that does is tell the companies that people dont want to buy the game, and they potentially stop making games. Or, fire a bunch of their employees to save money. It's a tricky thing to be completely pro-piracy.
literally, like a couple months ago I bought a game series on steam called the test. I very well could have refunded them after only spending a little bit of time on them because the are short games. But I decided not to so I could support the indie devs.
This is such a good take. And now that the 3ds and Wii U shops are down, how could they port them anywhere? There’s no hardware that can take advantage of a lot of those dual screen games, unless Nintendo makes their own legacy consoles down the line.
I want people to start saying, "You can't steal from a store that doesn't exist." This isn't like movies or music where you can buy all of it through different mediums. There is literally no place to buy these games where the publishers and developers see that money.
Though I agree, it's still stealing/piracy. It's up to the creators of the games/content to decide if they want their stuff up for sale at any given time.
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Literally no one and their mom is even saying this is piracy lol
It can still be stealing if nintendo plans on putting everything from the e-store on to the switch.
@@VinnytotheK you don't need to swallow the bolt you're licking
I seriously think that there should be a law that if a game or movie isn't available to purchase that piracy is fair game
That's asking too much out of politicians whose most sophisticated peice of tech in their home is a rock and few sticks
It wouldn't be "piracy" then would it.
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I might agree to "can be distributed but not sold"
@@connorpeppermint8635 nah they barely know how to turn on their phone and look at emails.
I doubt that would unless we get into the government and that’s if Japan companies like Sony and Nintendo don’t lobby the US government to make this stuff truly illegal
@@StevePlaysSteveplaysyotube but they sure know how to screw citizens over and raise taxes
“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem…” - Gabe Newell.
Also, I gladly gave the hShop devs $100 because they are doing so much for 3DS preservation. Thx, guys!
Thank you for your service sir. I don't have a lot of money to spare, but I'll donate when I'm in a better spot.
This might be a hot take, but the reasons others don't talk about this is not only because they don't want to get in trouble, but to also not get sites/apps like the hshop in the spotlight and in trouble by people like Nintendo. I'm glad more people are finding out about stuff like the hshop, emulation, and how piracy is usually okay, but putting these kinds of sites/apps in the spotlight by making videos or writing articles about them can do as much harm as good. Especially once the info starts becoming mainstream
"but to also not get sites/apps like the hshop in the spotlight and in trouble by people like Nintendo" i agree with this the most, i always say to people just keep it to themselves because so many times this shit happened.
Right
@@hoshi314 This happened with Z-Library :(
@@dullicecream see? this is why i sighed whenever someone give a spotlight to a pirate source particularly content creators. Nintendo perhaps already know but don't shed the light further
One falls and another rises in its place. Freeshop, ciangel ring a bell?
The moment he said, “It even works with pokemon bank” that was the moment it solidified my resolution on moding my 2DS
And it's really easy ! I did it just before the shut down of the servers :')
Same man
@@L1gh wait did they shut down H shop?
@@djhowell5273 No I was talking about E-shop servers ⚡
You won't regret it. Just follow the guide carefully, double check your work, and you'll have it done in about an hour. There's several handy apps you should get after the fact that make the console so much better. Like a theme manager for custom themes, or an FTP to transfer files between your 3ds and another device without having to remove the SD card. Also things like amiibo emulators/unlockers for several games. And of course, twilight menu++ and an NDS forwarder to put downloaded DS games right on your 3DS home menu with the added benefit of having access to cheats. Most of these aren't covered in the guide because they're not necessary to jailbreak, but they're must-haves in my opinion.
I think the SECOND any media goes out of production (ie. The company can't make any more money on it since they stopped support/ making copies etc.) It should be free to do whatever with.
I feel like it should be noted that production and sale are two separate areas. To give a more modern example, Xenoblade 2 was "out of production" at release, as there was never a reprint for the first two years after its release in the west. This was a pretty big issue around the DS era for certain games. The etrian odyssey series was known for being heavily inflated at resale due to limited reprints.
Finally a sane discourse on emulation and piracy. If they won't sell it, then it should be public access. Copyright laws are completely out of control and abused by companies like Disney and Nintendo.
I agree. Copyright laws are structured to protect the evil and harm the good.
This is one of the good aspects of Iger's Disney over Eisner's. Sure there's a bunch of unoriginal and bland live-action movies coming out but every thing is just freely available, which is great
Abused? It's their intellectual property. Being able to consume any media you like at any time as a consumer isn't some sort of human right.
@@Mrtyjr doesn't matter if it's their "Intellectual Property" we literally can't access these old games legitimately, and besides the current copyright law is broken and completely stupid
@@ajddavid452 if you can't you're out of luck. I can't get the limited Zelda Four Swords Adventure either. You just can't get everything in life.
Remember kids, piracy is always morally correct when the people you're trying to get these games from are actively trying to prevent you from getting and playing said games.
Remember kids, piracy is always morally correct if it's a Nintendo game
@@hmuy0608 remember kids, piracy
@@aurora-st4r_rl nah if it's some indie creator, they need that 20 bucks. Couldn't care less about multi-million dollar companies though.
@@hmuy0608 oh 100% tho most indie devs dont actively try to stop you from buying their products lol
nintendo would give everyone who pirates their games the death penalty if it were legal
I'll give my two cents about piracy.
I live in a 3rd world country, and is also a country with a LOT of anime fans.
We where weaboos even before this was popular in the US.
But Most Anime and Manga never got a national release (and when it did, it was either heavily censored or cancelled midway)
Brasilian Anime community survived and grew solely on scanlations and fansubed DVD rips.
Today it is one of the biggest anime markets out of japan
Piracy can be good
Is good. Amazing. Sensational. Astonishing. Phenominal.
Thank you Homebrewers and hackers for keeping videogame history alive. Certain DLCs are inaccessible now with the eshop closed forever, so you guys are my last resort and last hope.
Exactly. Piracy is now the only way to access the DLC for, say, Fantasy Life, unless you've already got it. And to lose access to that would be a great loss - Fantasy Life is an amazing game and the DLC adds so much. I did everything I possibly could in the base game before I got the DLC and by the time i had dome everything I could with the DLC, I had half again the playtime I'd had when I had finished the base game. That's a lot of extra content for a DLC
Zelda 4 Swords Anniversary - great example. Why this was never made available properly is beyond me.
@@maverickmic That and the Minish Cap were the first games I got after homebrewing my 3DS. They really should have made the Ambassador games available for everyone before the eShop closed.
"hackers" and "pirates" will voluntarily private message, then walk you through a 60 step process to ensure you got your games working perfectly and then play them with you to the last boss before you even get an automated response from publishers saying "Your troubleshooting email was received"
I forgot to download the FE Revelation DLC which contains the path with the true ending to the story of the game I paid for (I will always spite them for this design decision) before the shop shut down and I was pretty bummed about it. Good to know there are other ways to obtain it
Nintendo Fan: Hey, may I give you my life savings on these amazing games?
Nintendo: No.
Nintendo Fan: **Pirates the game as last resource**
Nintendo: *HOW DARE YOU-*
Greta Thunberg😂😂
Nintendo Fan: You left me with no choice
@@lordferdinand85 😂
I think you meant 'last resort'?
@@Mycorrhiza well done
Gabe Newell got it absolutely right when he said that piracy is a service problem. When I want a game, the first place I check is Steam. I have a lot of wishlisted Steam games that I'm waiting for a sale on. I could probably spend hours figuring out how to download some of them, but I'm okay with waiting a few weeks and buying the games for cheap if it means that I can get the convenience of Steam. If developers like Nintendo embraced emulation and made an online storefront so I could buy their games on PC for a few dollars, I might even use that instead.
But for games I wouldn't be able to play legally due to exclusivity..
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Spotify, Netflix, Hulu, they all understand this. I can go pirate something in
I bet EGS exclusives caused a massive bump in PC piracy
Yet keeping a storefront like that open won’t give much. Nintendo is a business that has to keep profits stable, and if something is taking more money than it’s earning they have to cut it off.
That’s exactly why the 3DS/WiiU eshop shut down, because they’re old consoles that went out of date. Even if they allowed things to be emulated on switch, emulation is a hard thing. It took years for something like dolphin to emulate some games on a device that’s 10 years old.
Even Microsoft’s new generation Xbox’ have a limited list of old games, because emulation is hard, and it gets more complicated for each game.
Steam is great because PCs are a whole other ecosystem, and are essentially on the same ecosystem, like with directX or OpenGL, or Vulkan. A modern PC could still play something from the 90s, and MSDos games are soo old, anything can emulate them.
And If Nintendo starts releasing old games on something like steam, no one will buy their consoles.
@Thewaterspirit57 I highly, highly doubt that the 3DS/WiiU eShops costed more to operate than they generated in revenue. Besides, they're still open, just with no ability to buy.
They shut them down purely to keep people from having access to the shops instead of using the Switch. It also was a convenient way to kill virtual console so they could push the subscription on Switch.
@@GoldenSun3DS literally revenue has been going down for the 3DS/WiiU since the switch’s launch, then it got to the point where they couldn’t maintain the servers on that revenue alone.
Literally the only time they got a good amount of revenue, was when they announced the shop was closing, which was a quick little flicker in their revenue over the years for those systems. Also you forget that the Wii U had really poor sales, so be happy they kept it open for this long.
My hacked 3DS is a treasure. Finally got GBA virtual console!
Finally GTA3 on my tiny 3ds. Also a recently released competent fan translation of EX Troopers a Japanese only release.
And I know it was already reviewed on this channel how ps1 emulation through retroarch isn’t too great on the n3ds. However I’m still using a previous version of that emulator-I don’t recall the development number-but it runs most games just fine at or near 60 fps. It’s surprisingly great.
Do you people not go outside at all? You can buy a emulation handheld for 60 bucks that can play nes through ps1
Funnily enough GBA games in the 3DS are not virtual console, they're not emulated. They run on real hardware, with zero latency, in a special BIOS mode that handles the second screen and the interaction with the OS. Only some things like the cartridge port are emulated.
@@buster5661 that 60 bucks console will break down in a month if you're lucky😂 (by the way the 3ds can play nes through ps1)
@Milk True, I can play Sonic Mania and it is so cool that a 3DS can handle that game.
This is the first Wulff Den video that is just straight up "do piracy" and not dancing around the subject and I am ALL FOR IT
I would do a joke promoting pirates, but I can't do Pirate Speak.
he's totally right nintendo literally deprives people of classic games in their library not providing them on any modern consoles they support, its a scam that they do this to the consumers. Nintendo however would rather look for ways to legalize the death penalty for piracy
Be gay do piracy! Wait...
What kills me about losing access to games is the loss of cultural history in an increasingly disconnected society.
It's okay don't think about that, just stay calm and buy new product.
Interesting angle, would read an article on this. Get to writing pls
That's a little dramatic but okay lol
@@kelesar fr dude i don't see what one has to do with the other especially with something prob less than 1% of the global population experienced to begin with
This an incredibly over exaggerated take on gaming preservation, I like video games but they’re an unimportant luxury at the end of the day. Plus no video games have that much of a cultural impact, all it did was bolster the entertainment industry. This isn’t George Orwell 1984, in fact it’s one of the warnings Orwell gave in his novel, that people like you suddenly glorify the distraction and over inflate the value of gaming to “cultural history”
I was a 2000s kid but missed out on all the tech and media that came out during the 2000s/2010s because games and TV were off-limits in my family. Now that I’m an adult, I decided I wanted to catch up on all that I missed, and I bought my New 3DS XL just a few months ago! Naturally, the eShop closing down so soon was pretty upsetting, as well as the fact that much of the 3DS’s network functionality is gone. I’m so excited that projects like the hShop and Pretendo Network are keeping old Nintendo content and functionality alive!
The 3ds is such an awesome system, I hope you have a great time enjoying what it has to offer!
@@CommanderWiggins I’ve been enjoying it immensely! 😆 Just today I spent a lot of time playing and comparing different versions of Tetris from the hShop (Tetris Axis is probably the best, BTW)! 😂☺️
I just dug out my old 3DS after seven years thanks to the recent Etrian Odyssey rereleases only to find out support was recently dropped, really sucks. Feels like I barely got much out of the console besides 1000 hours in MH4U and now it's obsoleted.
@@NGRevenant That does suck 😒 I hope you haven’t installed the latest update-I don’t know for sure, but I’ve heard it was supposed to make consoles that hadn’t been modded yet harder to hack.
Modding your 3DS is a lot easier than you’d think. I’m not at all technical, but I followed some tutorials and was able to do it successfully on my first try. The 3DS Hacks Guide is probably the best and safest way to go if you want to try it. 😊
@@AdrienMelody I did unfortunately update the firmware before I found out about that I'm sure it's not hard to circumvent though
I love that hShop is getting the love it deserves but simultaneously I feel like someone as big as you mentioning it is gonna put a big target on its back for Nintendo 🙁
I agree 100% wasn't a good look at all.
nintendo can't do shit, it's hosted on bulletproof servers
@@accountid9681 they can still issue a cease and desist to the owners of the website... unfortunately this video has likely put a target on hshop now and wulff den should seriously take the video down.
@@accountid9681 but what if they get sued?
@@tobi_dfwt8226 lawsuits only work in Europe, and the USA. File hosts in Russia, china, Singapore, etc are gonna just ignore you, hence the term bulletproof
It's also important to note that Luma3DS patches out region checks, removing regionlocking entirely.
Does it? I’ve seen people say that the region locked games don’t work and they need to do a fix, do they just not have luma?
@RiversCuomo_ Yesterday I tried to download the Japanese version of Style Savvy Trendsetters because it had a Japanese only DLC I wanted to play. It just stayed on a black screen and wouldn't boot up. The hshop version too
@@MnemonicHeadTrip Luma does region unlock games but for example, a Japanese console will still only display in Japanese. However region unlocking entirely with Luma is also really easy
Some games require more patches to run like mario and luigi paper jam. And some will just not run.
Hshop has been around for years, but with the sudden influx of people talking about it and people that want to get 3ds games, I wouldn't be surprised if gets shut down sadly...
even if it does, another FreeShop clone like this one will pop up at some point. Also, hShop isn't the only one out there at the moment...
I wish there was some sort of Wii U equivalent though, would be cool and would further encourage me to mod the Wii U part of my Wii U
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Been using it for years, and hope it doesn't get closed anytime soon, because it has been the best option to get games for the console. I do miss when they offered injects, though.
@@blixzero0 Not only that, but you don't need an eShop replacement. People can host the .cia files anywhere on the internet and not even Nintendo's ninjas will be able to stop every single one.
I'm kinda scared of all this attention to the Hshop may catch Nintendo's attention, I hope there's enough people out there backing the H shop's library
There are a lot of other sites that have the games available for download. If the Hshop closes, down, stuff just gets a little harder. But you can still access almost everything.
Vimms Lair has been popular for years and hasn’t come down. Which thank god, I’d cry if it did. But hShop probably won’t come down either
The games are out there, the internet is way too big even for Nintendo. If they slam 1 collection 5 more pop-up elsewhere.
the games are widely available on multiple sites, Nintendo can't kill hshop without even more copies popping up online
@@NaibSubedar VImm's Lair is where I get everything! It's awesome!
I am very pro piracy, especially if there is no legal way to buy it. What I do is pirate things, play them, and if I ended up really enjoying them I find different games from the same publisher and buy them on steam to show them some support.
It is still legally fishy to just decide not to pay a dev for a game you paid for, just because you didn’t like it, but besides that I’d say your idea and method is pretty sound!
@MasterBuchannon better than buying steam keys off resellers and refunding the games. But yeah otherwise I agree.
@@nyxelithias that’s only for the indie devs, most of the money that big company make come from the micro transactions these days. If someone doesn’t like the game, why buy it? The entry fee the publisher is charging won’t necessarily change a lot in their balance sheet
Sounds like a you problem
@@jamespond-jl4oq not necessarily. It is a “we problem”. I’m pro piracy as well, but my take is that the mtx whales makes it worse for the rest of us. I pirate because I don’t like mtx in games, and I doubt any sane person who enjoys a single player story driven game or even a multiplayer story driven game would say otherwise. There’s a reason bg3 sold like it did while payday 3 got dumped in trash. It is an industry wide problem that the gaming sector is slowing shifting games to a software as a service model, rendering both hardware and software useless once their servers get shutdown.
I bought a 3ds literally 2 years ago. As a kid, my parents never had the money to afford luxury goods like it. The only console I had was a Gameboy, when PSPs were the go to choice. My parents bought me knock off GBA cartridges from dodgy shops just so I could have an entertaining childhood and I love them for it.
Now that I'm in my 20s, and have some disposable income, I've been buying things I always wanted to experience. The 3DS was one of those things, when I heard it was getting discontinued.
I would love to spend the money I now have, and buy these games properly. But I can't. I'm years late on the topic, but I'm finally ready now. I don't want to just put it down when I KNOW I can experience some of the most amazing things ever created.
So I pirate. I homebrewed. People might call me a thief or whatever, and I won't shirk away from it. At the end of the day, if I were to be tried in court, I would be facing criminal charges.
Do I regret it though? No. I'm experiencing the childhood I never got to experience.
grew up very similarly but instead of a gameboy it was a ds with the r4 card. just did it on my 3ds and there are so many awesome games I have never heard of
I put my Wang in a pigeon NGL was a very tight hole I destroyed the pigeon NGL my Wang went through its hole and came out it's mouth I exploded was hot NGL now I own a Nintendo switch I cry for my 3DS..
Calling pirating games streaming is like calling digging thru garbage stealing. It's not getting used, they don't want to do anything with it, they've essentially gotten rid of it.... There's no harm
same dude, i am in in my late teen years, gaming consoles are roughly about 100k+ in my currency and thats a lot, i am currently learning graphic designing which i aim to have a career with but i am not really earning anything right now and i dont want to burden my parents by asking for those stuff, but i really want to play those games, i am always trying to find emulators and game sites for free on my mobile, even this is at least good for me, these previllaged people will never understand how shitty it is to live in 2023 with a lifestyle of 2013...
Who cares what people gaslight you into believing, it’s just binary code at the end of the day so enjoy it!
"Piracy is a Service Problem's
-Gaben
This is why Piracy will never truly die.
Fun fact: I believe that piracy is ok if the device has lost it's lease on life, I.E. the services it provides have been shut down and it becomes a technology advanced paperweight.
This would mean that pirating 3DS games is only ok once there are no 3DS systems anymore...which seems arbitrary.
It's technically abandonware
@@tjfarris9584 I am fairly sure abandonware status is only a thing for PC software.
@@lpfan4491 Nope according to the official definition it can be any old software, including the hardware the software is developed for.
Piracy is also justified when companies force intrusive DRM onto customers. DRM doesn't punish pirates, it only punishes the honest, if you implement harsh DRM into your game, well "you get what you fucking deserve."
Jesus explaining how Pirated games work is so nice.
i agree with you
thats jesus?
@@MeJustMe101maybe
not cool bro
Not sure I like the idea of bringing a ton of attention to hShop. It's too good and I am scared that they'll do everything they can to make it go away
Yea. What happened to piratebay. We all know
especially flashing the qr code in his video so people will just get it from this video not so good imo
Yeah!!! Kinda like the ole awesome "fishing or camping spot"! Ya wanna tell folks about it but then if ya do it aint gonna be awesome anymore!
While nintendo can push a Cease and Desist order, i'm not sure that will matter much. Putting the content as a torrent will make it impossible to stop, and you can just change the name and say 'Hshop as stopped... however there's a 99.99% identical one called Tshop...' eventually 'F*** nintendo shop' will crop up.
@@souldew2 Freeshops are like the hydra. Cut off one head, three take its place.
If you're not going to sell me a game, or deny me access to games I paid for, I don't care about the legality of piracy.
Ever since I got my 3DS, it was strictly a Pokemon system because I was a broke college student who had a tiny budget for gaming. By the time I had a decent career, I just grew out of the 3DS. But with the shop closing, I decided to hack my 3DS to grab hShop and man, it's been the best thing I've done in awhile. I haven't played my 3DS this much in years and it's so cool to finally check out all of the games I never had the chance to play.
I am enjoying Fire Emblem Echoes. Give it a try if you fancy a turn based RPG akin to tactical chess with fully voice acted characters.
What I can't help but notice is that they didn't have to disable the ability to buy games there. _The server is still up to ensure that people can update games and redownload games that they own._ This is still true for the DSi and Wii shops, too! Everything is there, all of the game files are in the database, and the servers are running. Nintendo just switched off the ability to buy anything. Seriously, they even could've made it so that the only way to buy them is from the website using your linked account (which was possible before the "shutdown"). That would be annoying, but still not as bad as what they did. It was unnecessary.
That’s because it costs nothing to keep up less than half the servers needed to allow for redownloading stuff.
Nintendo and other companies have lots of servers for digital game shops, not just the one in the companies country origin like most people think.
Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, and Valve have servers all around the world for their games.
But Nintendo couldn’t keep Wii U and 3DS Eshops open due to lowered sales over time, and security risks. Old games never go off sale on steam, because it’s a unified platform.
@@Thewaterspirit57 Your point has validity, but it doesn't change the fact that it's still possible to download things. And if they want to shut off a lot of the servers, that's fine, since traffic on that platform has slowed down substantially. I just don't understand why we can't still buy games from the website with our accounts, even if we can't buy directly from the consoles anymore. I'm pretty sure that's what Sony did with the PSP.
The problem isn’t having the servers to host the games. The problem is the running costs of operating a storefront in pretty much every country in the world, complying with all the different regulations continuously, invoicing, license agreements, etc. They were likely losing money on it. I’m a big fan of the Wii U, but how much Wii U software do you think they sold in the last months before they announced the shutdown?
@@kekchanbiggestfan Actually lots of people rushed to buy lots of stuff on Wii U and 3DS before the close, but before?…. The sales of software on each system had been slowly going down since the switches release, with some 3DS games keeping it going somewhat, but still dwindling.
The 3DS was discontinued in 2019, which marked the end of the thing.
@@Thewaterspirit57 Of course people flocked to it AFTER the announcement of the shutdown, that’s called fomo and businesses employ it all the time
I love how the Internet Archive can distribute stuff because they're an archive.
Boy, I sure love being a videogame pirate.
☠️ 🏴☠️ 🦜 ☠️ yo ho ho
I was born to course the seven seas (of the internet) and yes, it is indeed wonderful.
Been maintaining and customizing my 3DS for 4 years now and is sure feels great to not be constrained by whatever Nintendo pulls, another great thing to note is that CFW has reached such a point in which bricking your 3DS is almost impossible now, so I welcome anyone who's interested into giving it a chance, is as easy as following a step by step guide.
yep, and the truly immoral act is the large publisher-aggregators taking all the credit and all the rights, paying the actual artists and programmers peanuts in comparison. don't forget the subscription services, too! as for rewarding nintendo and the likes for putting up even a few games digitally, over and over again? uh, nope... HARD no. you're by extension rewarding the literal crusades they wage not just against pirates, but loyal/dedicated fans. also, 15 years is already too long for a reasonable copyright term, especially one not controlled by the actual artists, who were contractually forced to hand-over their rights [even their LIVES] to soulless corporations because it was the only way to even make a living pursuing that career.
@@Homodemon how is bricking ur console almost impossible? Icl I’ve always been apprehensive about modding my 3DS out of fear of that... 😅
I would love an “h shop” where the actual devs could legally sell their games that are no longer available on eshop. It would be a great alternative.
You want to get a lawsuit from nintendo? Cause this is how you get a 100% justified lawsuit from nintendo
@@thechugg4372 key word in my comment is LEGALLY sell. Meaning would survive a lawsuit from or have the blessing of Nintendo
@PhilDPino not gonna happen
the devs don't control their games half the time. publisher-aggregators hold all the rights and the creators get fucked. copyright hasn't been serving the artists' interest in a while. and in the digital insta-copy era, is a fruitless effort. lest we actually want SOPA/PIPA/ACTA to pass some day, they're not the system going out of control but kicking and screaming because it doesn't want to die.
@@jimmerseiber didn’t say it would happen, only that I would like/wish we had that alternative
My opinion on piracy is that it absolutely is not theft. Think about it, if you steal a car for example, that car is now in your possession but no longer in the possession of the person you stole it from. If you pirate a piece of software however, all you are doing is copying something from one place to another, so nobody actually loses anything. At most you could say that the company misses out on profit if you pirate something, but if it's something you can't even buy brand new anyway then that argument is void.
4:51 If you want that "haven" of piracy, Vimm's Lair is a good place to find stuff like that. It's not very sketchy at all, and it has almost every game released from the NES to the PS3. Only downside is slow download speeds.
I don't understand why he doesn't use an adblocker. And simply googling it sounds like a recipe for malware disaster. Being on Linux myself, I don't have to worry about malware, but I still make sure I at least get roms from sources I know I trust in the very unlikely chance there actually is some Linux malware in a file. I typically go to The Internet Archive first and only download things from other sources if TIA doesn't have what I'm looking for.
I mean there's that group "redump" right? They upload like loads of games to archive AND vimm's lair
All the good websites no longer exist
I remember watching Jirard's video and how both the banks they were using and nintendo tried to stop Jirard's team to get every single piece of digital games and DLC on the eShop before it shut down.
14:34 Yes, some games _are_ available elsewhere. But given how incredibly simple and safe it is to download them on a 3DS, I now have a method of test running games that I otherwise wouldn't have bought before. So that if I ultimately enjoy the games that I played, I will most likely purchase them later down the line via whatever official means I can. This is how I was introduced to the Azure Strike Gunvolt series.
There are a handful of games that I worked on that were only available on the EShop. I didn't realize until last week that it was closing down, I'm really thankful for the hshop! I'd seriously have lost a couple of them without it!
nice, which ones ?
@@jeanremi8384 Cube Creator 3D, Big Bass Arcade: No Limit, Strike Force Foxx, Ohno Odyssey, among others.
I homebrewed my New 3DS XL recently, and it was sooooo easy. I did what the guide said, and whenever something wasn't working, that case was already considered and there was a solution. Overall, a really satisfying experience.
I remember wanting to buy Pokémon crystal 3ds boxed version cause it was one of my favorites games and I really wanted a physical copy, but then i found out it was just a box with a download code inside, it was really disappointing. Why can't they just sell the physical copies of this games?! People would buy them.
Because crystal already has a physical copy being sold for the Gameboy
Logistics of printing physical games, especially one as small in file size as a game boy game, is absolutely not worth it for the publisher. That there was even a box sold is a "gift," as they 100% did not have to do that
This is a brave video to make and I appreciate it bro. I already knew what the hShop was before this but what does Ninendo, Sony and Microsoft want you to do when they pull these shenanigans.
I installed hshop on my 3DS back when I first heard about the shop being closed.
I was surprised by how easy it was to install it.
Why do we always lump Sony and MS into Nintendo's shit? The 360 store and PS3 store are still open, and they both predate the eShop.
Also Xbox (Microsoft)'s backward compatibility support is best in the industry by a fucking mile. Xbox consoles can even play old PS and Nintendo games (check out MVG for that one)
Sony just tried to shut down the Vita store before the eshop. They will do so again later and succeed.
@@prodyg Because Sony tried to close down but backed off after backlash for PS3 and Vita while they did took down the PSP though... While 360 store is slowly losing things and most likely gonna get dropped off besides those games that are BC compatible... But even so couple those games have been removed. Only a matter of time for those stores.
I have just purchased a 3ds again a few days ago and I’m loving it. Reliving a Link Between Worlds is great !
Can we give a shoutout to The Completionist for buying everything on the e-shop and donating it to videogame preservation?
I remember watching that and only hoping "I hope it's made available for pirates/hShop"
No, we cannot
@@elcharquican123 Why?
@@poppy-spades and NUSspli
@@elcharquican123 speak for yourself
this is exactly the reason I was not worried about the E shop closing.I knew the games would all be saved by the fans.
I'm glad this video hasn't been taken down yet. I have some games that I bought on the eshop but wasn't able to redownload in time when I got a different 3DS as well as 3DS games that I lost or don't have anymore so I'll definitely give this a go. May you be spared from Nintendo's legal wrath as long as possible.
I love how you and many other TH-camrs are telling people about this because it’s an amazing thing but I also feel that it was better off being somewhat hidden and you’ve started the doomsday clock to the inevitable cease and desist coming to the creators of the hshop from Nintendo.
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Oh no
honestly i think the solution is that people create a self aware AI that hires AI employees that just keeps preserving the hshop and the creators abandon ship and give the AI full control eliminating all liability, because I don't think anyone can sue an AI itself
@@psychoticgiraffe Skynet vibes here
@@geminisfl skynet will ultimately destroy everyone and also defeat the corporations
I had specifically hesitated on using the homebrew route due to wanting to still use Pokemon Bank, but didn't know if my console would get banned from having homebrew. This is a bit of a relief that I am very mistaken.
Nintendo can never detect homebrew on the 3DS.
I was trying to research about this; aren’t there two types of transfer apps? I’m not big into Pokemon, but modding my n3dsxl had me going down a rabbit hole.
One word of advice, while I was able to get a Pokémon all the way through to Pokémon Sheild from White 2, don't try to use bank or home with obviously modified Pokémon. So a shiny Victini, which is still impossible without hacking, will almost definitely get you flagged on bank and/or Home. Just wanted to put that out there.
@@Insert.Oregano This is critical! There are tools on PC that let you examine a pokemon and will inform you if its a legal configuration.
I'm sure if it dosen't already exist someone will make a 3ds homebrew tool that can do the same.
@@BrandonDoran00 I guess I forgot that part. I've used a tool on the system that can check for that as well. I did write not to try 'obviously' hacked mons, but I think that wasn't clear enough. Thanks for adding that context
i don't have a 3ds but watching this video helped shed some light to emulation. i only know about it from emulating GBA and NDS on PC but my phone lets me do GBA just fine. And I've been watching a lot of your videos where you show us devices from 3rd parties and devices in general that run homebrew and it's all just wild. thank you for your videos. they're binge friendly.
Honestly, I really appreciate you talking about this. This is legitimately a huge issue with the gaming marketplace right now, especially as we continue moving into a "digital-only" space. Hell, the PS5 even has a model that ONLY supports digital games.
It's only a matter of time until this goes to court again. Just a matter of when. Hopefully major publishers will recognize the value in making their games available long-term.
Been fully supporting CFW on a 3DS since I found out it was a thing. Every time I see my 3DS, I always get a little excited to see what I can figure out what to do with it, there's so much!
You put linux on it yet?
@@KyleShawXD I tried once. Didn't exactly work how I planned for it to at all, so I gave up and never did it again.
My take: Give us an avenue to obtain it legit or people will generally find their own avenue for better or worse.
Piracy has its negatives, like not giving money to the creators (not like they get any however through resale), but it also has its positives.
One very prominent positive is preservation, as many a product, video game or otherwise, would be dead and gone if not for people pirating certain games.
Another one is to show that something has a market or still has a market, as something wouldn't be pirated unless people actually cared about it. Heck, a huge reason why anime became so popular over in the west was piracy and fan subs. It showed that something like that could actually have a global market.
It's in line with the flow of the video, but I ended up pausing half way through the video a few hours ago and actually hacking my 3ds finally thanks to you. Ended up finishing the video as it booted up to the home brew menu. Pretty simple and I'm looking forwards to my 3ds providing entertainment a bit longer.
Thanks for the push, great video.
I’m sad that the Eshop is gone. As a monster hunter fan a LOT of the best games in the franchise are stranded on both the 3DS and wiiU so it’s only makes it harder for new fans to play older games that they might love
Yo bro does online multiplayer hunts work for a pirated copy or will u get banned? (And what about for any other game that has online in general?)
Also if u create a digital copy from ur physical copy of a game will your game save be transferred too?
@@superman2957 na you won't get banned for using a pirated copy
Piracy is not morally neutral. Piracy is morally good because it is the only way to preserve media as time goes on.
Especially with the disturbing trend of revising old media to remove the 'offensive' elements.
if its abadonware then yea . which aplies on lot of software from nintendo . piracy pc games on another hand feels like dick move if ports are available , unless you own license from before ,feel free to crack game
Amen!
i gonna have to agree here, piracy is completely on the table when you can't officially buy them directly from the manufacturer.
Pirating Harvest Moon 64 out of curiosity as a kid, is why I'm so nostalgic for the franchise and why I went on to buy virtually every Harvest Moon and Rune Factory game since then.
I've bought way more games thanks to piracy than I ever would have otherwise. And that's on top of owning the Snes classic, a Nintendo Online subscription, etc. Had it not been for piracy, I likely would have "grown out of" video games growing up. It was piracy that helped fuel my passion for gaming, and why my collection has grown as large as it has. There wouldn't be Nintendo Switch games on my shelf like there are now if it hadn't been for piracy.
I found a 3ds at Goodwill last week and I’m loving getting to play all of the games that I missed. Luckily I’ve been slowly collecting the physical games when i found them for cheap for years now knowing that one day I’d be able to play them.
Just hope the exposure this video will bring doesn't get the hshop taken down :/
I don’t think so. Everyone knows hshop already
@@TheDavidish not really, it was just a part of the 3ds community fhat knew about it, but now a lot of youtubers mentioned it so it's probably in danger if nintendo notices them. Also the same guys run myrient, which has games for every single console I can imagine, including nintendo ones(except switch since theyre scared), so tyat could draw even more attention from nintendo
@@shadesoftime Possibly but it definitely wasn’t unknown before. Most people had their 3DS modded befor
@@TheDavidish but now a lot pf people who haven't even owned a 3ds know about it and I see it popping up everywhere since the eshop closed
Got a hacked New 3DS XL for the first time exactly one year ago and it's been an absolute delight, I'm planning on getting a 2DS for my sister and I'm definitely using this method with it.
The h shop is like a museum, they preserve old 3ds games
I definitely agree with your take Bob. In this case, the emulation is morally neutral and isn’t hurting anyone if the games are lost to time. If the games are still available from official channels and not individual resellers, then yah that’s morally shady. But otherwise? Glad I can still unlock the legendary Fire Emblem Fates DLC :)
There are also issues of remasters just not being good. So, games like the Silent hills HD and Ratchet and Clank trilogy are better off played with a ps2.
You already said everything I could say about the matter, so I'll just say 2 more things:
1st: I always wondered what the people behind the emulations get from putting so much hard work into it. Are they really just video game lovers like us who want to see these titles preserved and keep them available?
2nd and completely unrelated and out of context: I love your hair, it looks very cool 👍
Some years ago, the MCU was putting out this 'chest' that had every movie up to that point in it, I think it might have been 'The Infinity Saga Collector's Edition' (it came out the day after the release of Pokémon Sword and Shield). Mind you, I owned some of these movies already but because I bought like that weird Iron-Man special edition (the plastic case that looks like the helmet, those were weird times) I wanted a nice uniform look, plus all in 4k Bluray! Anywho, it was a BestBuy exclusive and was like $600+. So I showed up at my local BestBuy right as they opened hoping to get one. None of the employees knew what it was and the BestBuy website listing now showed sold out. So I went out and sailed the seas to get every movie. I had the money to give, I wanted to give them the money... they spammed articles about this thing but it was basically scalpers only.
10:54 I love how instead of putting the link you just show the QR code for the download on Screen for those who want to find it 😂
great video! people should not be afraid to be honest and state the reality of the situation -- piracy is often the only means of preservation when it comes to legacy content, especially when dealing with digital-only storefronts or rare, obscure games. i believe that the designers of these games would prefer that the games get played in any capacity rather than be lost to time.
I’ve seen a lot of comments saying this but i agree with it
Its not piracy when the only place you would be able to buy it doesn’t exist anymore.
And Personally i dont think its piracy if you own the game already (legally) like i emulate my games that i own because i want to mod them or I WANT ANOTHER ISLAND ANIMAL CROSSING.
worth noting that hShop also has a lot of titles that were delisted years ago, like the Project X Zone games and DLC
The best thing I did with two of my Hacked 3DS's was copy New Super Mario Bros. 2 on both of them and play two player with my brother like we did when we were younger, probably the most fondest memory I can now re-experience ☺️
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Piracy is genuinely integral to media preservation.
Bob broke the seal. The warranty seal.
But also the seventh seal of Nintendo's wrath.
Thanks to the people fighting for the preservation of content.
I'm in the middle of the video - I thought I am the only maniac to own Sonic Adventure 2 on every available platform... I think I fell in love with you.
I think a big note here is the fact that in most cases, if you pirate a game, you weren't going to buy it anyway. It was either going to be free, or you were never going to try it. Matt Stone and Tray Parker (creators of South Park) said the same thing about their show being pirated. They had no problem with it because sales-wise it makes no sense to worry about lost profits because statistically speaking, they were never going to make those profits to begin with.
I disagree. They said in the commentary that in their case, piracy didn’t hurt them, it actually helped them. People like me that didn’t have Comedy Central had no other way of seeing it, or in some cases even know about it. So we pirated it. And then we became fans, showed it to our friends who also became fans, they showed more friends and so on. Now, 20 years later, I am a die hard fan, and I have spent plenty of my money on South Park in the form of dvds, video games, and plenty of other merch. So, yes they may not have made money off of me in the short term, they knew they had a good product and while they didn’t give it away for free, they didn’t stop anyone from pirating it because they knew it would help them in the long run. And in the case of video games, I have personally never downloaded a rom of a game I didn’t already own, unless it was unobtainable otherwise. And like they said, that is morally neutral. It helps no one, but hurts no one.
Your earlier video inspired me to cfw my New 2DS XL, and of course I had to give this hshop a try. Although my main reason for cfw-ing it is just that I don't have to bring those 5 or 6 cartridges I constantly used back in the day. I don't really need more games, but it's just very nice, how convenient that platform _could've_ been. And luckily, with things like this, it still is.
Saw this video as my first of the morning video, then explained to the wife I'm hacking the 3DS this weekend. When she side eyed me? I knew I was roght as in lack of cohesive capable thought I still managed to explain to her that since Nintendo shot down their shop, her console is useless if she ever wants to buy anything for it. When she did not argue, I knew I had the moral high ground like that Obi Wan vs. Anakin battle (her lack of arguing back is always my moral testing ground, LOL). Nintendo did wrong, and she knows it. Now I can breath life back into her little hand held Co sole again. And to gurther justify the whole "pirates are the largest purchasers" debate? We plan on getting a Switch next week, finally. Guess whats not getting hacked? The Switch. Edit in: this video has the moral high ground as well and makes my insides warm to see. So, subscribed. Thanks!
I really hope the shop doesn't close after a big youtuber talks about it, cause it's so good... But I hope not too much attention is brought to this awesome thing now...
I promise you Nintendo was already well aware of it
It won’t. Nintendo knows. They just don’t care anymore. They’ve shut down the store. No more monetary gain. Pirate all you want
hshop has been around for many many years. Nintendo knows about it.
I promise you that nintendo already knows about hShop, and they have for a long time.
If Nintendo already knew about the hShop. How come they haven't shut it down yet?
Can't thank you enough for bringing this app to my attention. I've been meaning to add CFW to one of my 3DS units, this pushed me over the edge and I couldn't be more happy with the results. Great work man, love your content!
Also this is good for the future generation as well. We have no control in when and how long these games are in service. The company does. Not to mention we don’t have control of when we learn about these games. Some of us just don’t get into it until after it’s gone. It has happened to me as well. And that is just due to life and many other factors. Also some are just not fortunate enough to gain access to a device that can play it.
Ironically, had a friend of mine way back when who helped me convert quite a bit of my games collections into something more emulator-friendly, which is why I have roms of those games to this day.
I'm glad a homebrew 3DS gives me anothe avenue into game preservation too.
piracy is just a word the companies use to justify their actions against their customers , us .... piracy translates to " someone is removing the original item from the rightful owner " ...... so this here is sharing information and sharing information is not a crime by any means since it does not remove in anyway possible the original item from the company . so your title is :
"The 3DS eShop lives on, thanks to Sharing "
I bought a 3Ds when it was brand new and completely missed the E shop functions. Glad to know other people are keeping some of my favorite games alive
Bob, first rule of hshop is you don’t talk about hshop… hope this doesn’t lead to the end of hshop…
Modding my 3DS, man oh man. I never thought I’d do it when I bought mine 7 years ago, but with the way things are now, it’s a no-brainer. Enjoying this more than my Switch when I had it lol
10:50 you don't even need to download it through your microsd card, if you click "remote install" then "scan QR code", you can just scan the QR code seen on screen and then hShop is on your 3DS; turned a 1 minute ordeal into a 30 second ordeal :D
Can you please explain a bit more clearly, scan the code with which camera. I'm guessing the 3DS, and that will use the built in browser to download into my device itself?
@@dri_him It's in FBI
@@dri_him everything i mentioned is in the FBI application on your modded 3DS, every 3DS will have it as it is what’s used to load cia files, but as i mentioned, you can just scan a qr code with the 3DS’ camera with the FBI app
@@lay003 gotcha thanks!
The only unfortunate thing is that the 3ds has a limited data intake so it slows down the downloads a lot compared to getting it in your SD Card then installing through FBI
Can confirm. I've been in the emulation scene for many years now. And I've probably spent about 20k on re releases more than actual new games lol.
you couldve bought drugs and escorts with that money. be more like hunter.
Section on pirates and spending is so true. I love Super Robot Wars. Most of them aren't available in the west. I imported 3 of them for the Switch, waited months for them to show up, and had to navigate through the eshop on both japanese and taiwanese accounts to get my preorder dlc for them. I will jump through a lot of hoops.
God I hope this doesn't get it taken down
All that I know is I'm an indie developer and I know at some point down the road and even right after I release my game in a few years there's going to be people pirating it and literally nothing I can do so I don't even consider that a loss of sale. In fact at a certain point we plan on making the game free to everybody in like 15 years or something like that.
it's not a loss of sale and cannot be proven such because it's a logical fallacy. one that many [actually] wise old men have brought-up : "don't count your chickens before they hatch". pirates couldn't pay, were region-blocked, or simply never intended to pay. also, piracy at the end of the day gets the word out you have a product service. maybe i'm playing a game i pirated and a friend comes-over, only they decide to buy it. maybe i pirated it at first and later i finally buy the full/legal version [this is a big part of how minecraft became what it was, whether or not mojang or the community at large wants to admit it]
where piracy legitimately hurts a company : next to no sales [rare, for this to happen, it has to be something like hatchette where theyy created a situation where people don't WANT to give them a cent [like trying to shut-down/usurp public libraries]
ignoring their soaring profits, guaranteed the most money they "lose" is through fighting piracy. rather, let's call it what it is : sharing. you will almost never see an indie studio mounting a copyright lawsuit. because they know it's a loss. same as some random smuck will be made example of by the large conglomerates because the distribution hubs are an unkillable hydra-like beast [ >:D ] so you need to use mafia-esque shake-downs on the small fries. being the small indie against anyone else is typically a lost cause. david vs goliath battles where david comes-out on top are rare. this applies for all legal matters. deeper pockets, better performances. and as for DMCA, it's a request. DMCA "works" because 9/10, neither party wants to deal with the courts.
i more or less reached the same conclusion. also, in 15 YEARS, by GAWD, a studio should've made something FRESH. whatever you think about notch and his... uhm... opinions/statements, one of many of the reasons he sold-off mojang/minecraft is because he was severely disappointed in them as a "creative" company. he wanted them to make other games. they've long since canned every other project and don't make anything new. just collaborate [and likely assimilate, cuz...M$] external studios to make spin-offs using the minecraft brand. and ofc, they continue to update the game which, he had interest in making open source some day.
and...sry for the textwall... been doing that a lot lately...
7:24 dude literally has Sonic Adventure 2 on every platform that it's on
So many more people knowing is not something I’m against. I’m just worried it’ll cause hshop to shut down.
I’m there with you on owning so many copies of Sonic Adventure 2. That made me laugh so hard.
I agree completely with your point. Sure its a "hot take" but its true. These companies are killing games and piracy is preserving it, whether they like it or not. Even if you didn't own these games by yourself, you should be allowed to experience the amazing titles from the 20th century like anyone else. And if you can by it from the original sellers, then I am entitled like any other fan, to play it myself. There are so many amazing games on these titles that always looked so good as a kid, but since the gameboy and other consoles are gone, I would have no way to experience the amazing games from that century.
Wow Bob, I'm just running through the possible legal scenarios you'd face, but then this stuf you've already got figured out. Kudos to you for sharing your stance on piracy and how the unavailability of games affects gamers.
Remember everyone: If the company no longer sells the product in any form, piracy is okay!
The guy that bought all those games used Charity money... lmfao this didnt age well
I recognize the guy for charity scam, which is a family tradition for his folks. Didn't age well indeed.
Very respectable discussion on the topic. Hugely appreciate this. I've been advocating for 3DS piracy for a long time, so I'm glad it's getting more attention now.
At Bob's piracy Trial
Prosecutor: "Members of the jury, please turn to the monitor for Exhibit A."
Bob: "Hi, I'm Bob, and I like to talk about crime."
About buying 3ds games to support the developer, I’ll only help if you buy them brand new from a retail store, if you buy a used copy it won’t help the dev, not even if the used copy came from a store, if it’s used it won’t make revenue to the dev anymore, so just downloading it for free won’t do any damage, or buy if you can afford it and you want it physically, just know that buying it second hand won’t help anyone, you can just buy it on steam to help the dev and download it for free on the 3ds too so you can play it there
In my opinion, piracy is almost always a good thing. Big corporations like Nintendo make things incredibly expensive, Im broke. They can live if a couple people don’t give them hundreds of dollars to buy some things. It’s different for indie developers. I will buy Hollow Knight as many times as I need to have it on every console I own. Indie devs deserve the money. Corporations don’t.
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The thing is, imagine if a large amount of people (say, near majority( saw it the same way you do. Then you've got many, many people never buying the games, only pirating, and what that does is tell the companies that people dont want to buy the game, and they potentially stop making games. Or, fire a bunch of their employees to save money.
It's a tricky thing to be completely pro-piracy.
literally, like a couple months ago I bought a game series on steam called the test. I very well could have refunded them after only spending a little bit of time on them because the are short games. But I decided not to so I could support the indie devs.
This is such a good take. And now that the 3ds and Wii U shops are down, how could they port them anywhere? There’s no hardware that can take advantage of a lot of those dual screen games, unless Nintendo makes their own legacy consoles down the line.
Piracy is the only way I was able to have access to information and entertainment for years, it’s not just for rich people.