The First Game to Make Quinns Cry - Alice is Missing Review

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  • @eris702
    @eris702 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    I've played this game... maybe 7 times now? I know that it makes me a psychopath, but I truly cannot express how much the game means to me. Almost every time I've played it, someone's left the table in tears which is usually not a great sell for a game but it really is for this one. A campaign of any other RPG takes an extraordinary amount of time to get this level of emotional investment, this game nails it in around 3 hours. I'm glad you got to have a similar experience!

    • @Imperiused
      @Imperiused ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As someone who's played it multiple times, what is your take on the replayability?

    • @eris702
      @eris702 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Imperiused I think that what really makes the story is the people you play it with. More often than not, they'll have a fresh idea to bring during the planning phase which inevitably paints a different picture in the end. You will have to be pretty proactive about making your own character unique each time but I can definitely say I've gotten many different feelings from many different games. That being said, it's a bit of mental work and the format has to really 'click' with you.

    • @hoodieinfestation
      @hoodieinfestation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This sounds rad. Great review.

  • @wizzardoffuzz
    @wizzardoffuzz ปีที่แล้ว +142

    The whole voicemail thing really sounds like 10 candles… another 1 session role playing game that genuinely really effected me.

    • @JonXuereb
      @JonXuereb ปีที่แล้ว +5

      They've done a written review on it

    • @dakubatto
      @dakubatto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly what I was thinking

    • @Imperial_Squid
      @Imperial_Squid 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES! That's what I thought of too!
      Would be cool to see SU&SD do a review of that (Halloween special maybe 👀)

    • @Really_Awesome_Thing
      @Really_Awesome_Thing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100

    • @arkoudanthrope
      @arkoudanthrope หลายเดือนก่อน

      That was my initial thought too. That’s another RP that I’ll just never play again. Even with the fact that you can have any scenario you want. But knowing that your character is doomed really reacted weirdly with me. There was a hopelessness which I’m sure was intended and by design, but I did not have it in me to enjoy.

  • @biggiecheese247
    @biggiecheese247 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    Played this game with my friends some time back, and my god it was an experience. Tears welled up in those final moments. One of the best things I’ve ever played. If anyone hasn’t played it, please do.

    • @mariavassallo4600
      @mariavassallo4600 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      thanks, biggie cheese

    • @vlobdam
      @vlobdam ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thanks, biggie cheese

    • @Zilong09
      @Zilong09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does this have a lot of replayability?

    • @zatoichiMiyamoto
      @zatoichiMiyamoto ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm a father of a 4yo delightful ladie... Also i'm super emotional, should i play it?

    • @lestatmusatcamus
      @lestatmusatcamus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don’t know how to feel about this game, maybe it just hits to close to home. Sadly women disappearing in my home town is something that happens regularly, I think I couldn’t play a game with these theme

  • @cameronjohnson4936
    @cameronjohnson4936 ปีที่แล้ว +230

    Please keep doing rpg reviews. The passion you have for them is so infectious and I love to see reviews when someone has actually played a system. You’re a gem, Quinns

    • @jenspoder8322
      @jenspoder8322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen brother!

    • @connormc4050
      @connormc4050 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      This comment aged well

  • @joshuaogle2383
    @joshuaogle2383 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    It's my favourite RPG. Not only for its emotional gut punch, but because its so tightly wound as a TTRPG experience. The designer has a great tutorial about how to run the pre-game prep, how to avoid it dragging out too long and keep the momentum going so you can pour your creative energy into the right places. You sit down with your friends, and two and a half hours later you've had the complete experience. It's a brilliant, conscientious piece of design.

  • @DougCoughler
    @DougCoughler ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My group had a very different experience. First, while I prepped them as this could be a really dark game, it never really got *too* dark because either we were struggling with the technology (80% of the group were late 30s and up so we weren't big "group chatters"), or we didn't let ourselves go that far. Eerily enough though, all of our story beats lined up beautifully, so there were none of the dangling plot threads that you describe. I died, and it was actually quite emotional for me. We played over Discord and it was a lot of fun. I would actually love to play with a different group sometime. I get what you say when you say it wouldn't be "your" Alice or "your" Charlie, but it's like watching a remake of a movie or TV show: you can still enjoy the new version, and still keep a fond little corner in your heart for the "original". I can't wait to get the Expansion and try this with another group.

  • @Le_Codex
    @Le_Codex ปีที่แล้ว +197

    My brain immediately started filling the blanks from just seeing the box, the manual, and the basic description of it. Haven't played it myself, but damn, I can't begin to imagine how much of an emotional hit this is. Just this review was one and hit so close to home in certain places
    Also, the idea of having twins for a 6th player is _genius._ I can't overstate that, that's an amazing way of having players two-hand a character for a roleplaying game

    • @lestatmusatcamus
      @lestatmusatcamus ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Man, these hits so close to home. Sadly these has happen to people close to me. I can’t see myself playing a game with this theme

    • @metallsnubben
      @metallsnubben ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah one of those "they've done what they set out to do really well, and that's also why I'll never play it"

  • @WittyDroog
    @WittyDroog ปีที่แล้ว +15

    For another similar experience you may want to look into Love & Barbed Wire, which is a game about a soldier and lover writing letters back and forth during a war. It's only for 2 players, and while I it doesn't have as much of a presentation as this and it relies more heavily on the player's ability to "dig in" to the characters and write in the theme of the letters, the way the game randomizes the results is more straight forward (uses a deck of poker cards) and neatly avoids the replayability issue that you bring up. I've played six "sessions" of it and each one was wildly different and while some outcomes are filled with joy, there are other outcomes that are filled with genuine sadness and we cried as well.

  • @daLoerdchen
    @daLoerdchen ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Yes!! I longed for more RPG coverage and i got more RPG coverage!
    I hope that your RPG content gets at least the same amount of views as the board game ones. After playing and loving board games for years i got into roleplaying last year and i am totally hooked.
    Please keep the RPG content up! :-)

  • @womprat208
    @womprat208 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Some friends and I played this last year over Discord, and it was the first really good roleplaying session since pre-pandemic. But I agree, I don't know what I'd want to go back and play this again. It's excellent. But it's heavy and changes to characters in subsequent plays would feel like a needless Hollywood remake. Also, my phone keeps changing one of my friend's contact info back to their character periodically, which is both hilarious and kinda tragic.

  • @maxmustermann9036
    @maxmustermann9036 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    if you like the voice mail mechanic you gotta try out 10 candles. It's also bleak but fun, highly evocative, plays fast (though longer than alice), light on rules and is just soooo good. I'd even say the voice recordijg works even better in 10c
    Alice is a better starting point however due to the even shorter playtime and the removal of acting. I love both :)

  • @Kiron001
    @Kiron001 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Played this with my friends a while back. One was tired, another skeptical. All were enraptured after a short while. It definitely is an experience i wholeheartedly recommend for everyone mildly interested in something magical and different.

  • @wheatiesmann3414
    @wheatiesmann3414 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    this game is peak. my friends and i played it and then spent 3-4 hours afterwards decompressing and talking about the experience with all our little favorite character moments, such a beautiful game

  • @monkeyunit4533
    @monkeyunit4533 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great review, glad to see this can work for groups.
    We played this and kinda fell flat. You really need everyone to take it seriously and understand what the game is trying to do.
    Personally I would have liked the game to provide more of the story. Having to make everything up was tricky for us, as people were looking for answers the game didn't provide. The game doesnt want you to fill in the blanks but also bring the paper and outline.

  • @simonbrake5072
    @simonbrake5072 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Such an incredible game. The text only basis quickly immerses you so I've found that, even with friends who tend to get very silly when we're playing face-to-face roleplaying, playing entirely via text (or via Discord messages) really put you into the right headspace, and the tension really ramps up with specific prompts and the timer counting down.
    Really looking forward to seeing what the expansion brings to the game.

  • @pacoalvarezlojo855
    @pacoalvarezlojo855 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I played this game very recently and I don't think is an adequate game for new RPG players because it ask quite a lot of the players, creatively and involvement where the silence kind of isolates them with their insecurities about "is this how a rpg should be played?" "what I have to do now? did I miss something or I have to invent the answer?"
    Like we all know when we try to teach someone to play rpg, that one of the big blockers is not the actual specific rules but the more general concept of the activity
    -
    also I think the game should be a bit clearer about the fact that is not a detective story, and while the objective of the characters is to find Alice and figure out what happened, the objective of the players is not that at all. I think that can create a massive disappointment in a lot of players that may be approaching this game like a detective/investigation game

    • @josephwaghorne
      @josephwaghorne ปีที่แล้ว

      What would you recommend as a good beginner RPG?

  • @CasaDeMill
    @CasaDeMill ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Spectacular game. We were 4 players, all with various levels of RP experience and everyone had such an emotional journey

  • @collinw9934
    @collinw9934 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This video is a hit simply because Quinns dresses up as all the teenagers.

  • @doom2508
    @doom2508 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just noticed you have an Outer Wilds tattoo on your arm at 10:54. Thats easily my favorite video game of all time

  • @davidcrabtree981
    @davidcrabtree981 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Immediately downloaded.
    Thank you Quinns for all the amazing RPG content. Because of you I now play regular dnd and blades in the dark and I bloody love it!

  • @jonedvinz
    @jonedvinz ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just got done with SUSDs boardgame predictions for 2023. Think Qunnis doing a RPG review is one prediction proven correct.

  • @that_camaro_guy_zl1
    @that_camaro_guy_zl1 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I know this comment isn't related to this game, but just wanted to say I purchased Monickers "Classic" with the SU&SD pack in it and it's now one of our gaming group's favorite party games. Thanks for helping make such a great game!

    • @chastermief839
      @chastermief839 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just did something similar! I picked up monikers and The Crew based on SUSD recommendations because I was going to a large family reunion and I couldn't bear the idea of playing nothing but scrabble and Catan all week. I opened up monikers the first night and it was such a hit that it became a routine every night for the rest of my stay. Because of monikers, I only had to play ONE GAME of Catan for my whole stay, which for my family is absolutely unprecedented! (The Crew, or 'space euchre' as we affectionately called it, was also a lot of fun for passing time during the day) Thank you SUSD!

  • @partyfists
    @partyfists ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I got to explore so many things in this game that I had never been able to before. Mostly improv. Those voice mails at the end that are revealed are so incredible to finish with. My voicemail made people in the group cry after everything we did and I had no idea what I was doing. I just tried to be my character and after the entire story played out, it was just the perfect ending. I felt anxious for other people to hear it because I had opened up my character so much and I felt that.
    This game is excellent. but make sure you play it with people you trust and respect. This game can go dark and you want to make sure the people you play with are respectful of boundaries and the fact that this experience, even if dark, is meant to be enjoyed.

  • @tabletalkreviews
    @tabletalkreviews ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hunted down a copy of this with my friend at SHUX and we had a great session. So much easier to role play over text. Hope to see other games do roleplaying in a similar way.

  • @michaeldunkerton3805
    @michaeldunkerton3805 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shout-out to all the people listening to this video like a podcast who now think Quinns has never once shed tears before this game.

  • @joshp8535
    @joshp8535 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Then Quinns didn't play enough This War of Mine.

  • @patarfuifui
    @patarfuifui ปีที่แล้ว +71

    I love the idea of games like this, but the D&D roleplay group I'm with can't stop trying to be comedians even when I'm running some dark moments from Curse of Strahd. It's fun gaming with them don't get me wrong, but we couldn't do this haha

    • @rasin9391
      @rasin9391 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Exactly. Can’t do serious stuff with some people. Can’t play this either

    • @Psittacus_erithacus
      @Psittacus_erithacus ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I've had that experience with some groups. So you could be entirely correct; but I've also been genuinely surprised by groups I never imagined were capable of genuine depth. Lots of people can't (or won't) drop the comedian act, but almost everybody does have an emotional life beyond their social defaults … and I think the vast majority of people are capable of evolving beyond pure snark if given the right (or perhaps a variety of) opportunities.

    • @Phyrre56
      @Phyrre56 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I do think that is a pitfall of this game -- it is meant to be taken mostly seriously, and if someone decides to be a goofy jackass about it, that one person can ruin the entire vibe. I think you want to play this with a group of people who are all on board with the premise. I would not recommend trying to cajole someone into joining if they think it sounds silly, etc.

    • @Zyphon400
      @Zyphon400 ปีที่แล้ว

      Find new people to play this with. Join your local board gaming group

  • @andyraff4465
    @andyraff4465 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I work in live roleplaying games, and this was a fascinating review of an intriguing game. Probably not for me - I have the emotional range of one of those bricks they use for life-saving training at the swimming pool - but I know several folks who I think will find it equally interesting and are capable of human emotions. So cheers for that.

  • @BoardGameHangover
    @BoardGameHangover ปีที่แล้ว +15

    We've been gushing over this game for a year now! It's an amazing one-of-a-kind experience and I can't agree more with you about the emotions, it just makes you feel things like no other game does. On a side note, we've played it multiple times. Surely the first time was the best, but it didn't lose much when being replayed. It's like watching a really good movie the second time. After a while, you just are eager to try it again

  • @luigiscazzari4724
    @luigiscazzari4724 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice touch with the traffic light: helped evoking that Twin Peaks feeling that the game has.
    And big thumbs up for Masks, it's a very fun game

  • @joshzhanson9707
    @joshzhanson9707 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review, loved the nuanced recommendations!
    I played Alice is Missing in person with four other friends around a table in person. As someone who’s “into” improv and the indie RPG scene, I was blown away by the density of roleplaying in the game. There’s the highest density of in-character “utterances” in any game I’ve played. It’s also good for players new to RPGs because it gives players characters and story skeletons so you don’t have to be “creative”, you can just jump into the fun roleplay.
    On the other hand, my group also felt that the structure of the game was too restricting. Some of the ways the game sets up the plot (like flipping over cards at random for plot elements) were irritating because they often went against our improv groupthink. We all kind of implicitly agreed what the plot was and what plot threads were interesting to follow, but when the game tells you that one of the least interesting threads is actually the most important, it felt jarring and immersion-breaking when we had to do narrative acrobatics to fit it in. We also kind of disliked the fact that there’s not a lot of ways for players to capitalize on good ideas they have or move the narrative away from what the game tells you - players have to wait for the timer to tick down and then figure out how to incorporate the new plot element into our story so far, rather than players driving the action themselves. Totally agree with it being a very passive story, IMO annoyingly so.
    I think Alice is Missing is a fun experience to play once, but it would probably be just as fun or more fun to create your own characters, come up with character secrets and relationships, and then freeform roleplay using group chats and DMs for 90 minutes while playing the soundtrack (or your own fixed length playlist) and try to tell a reasonable story with rising action, climax, and resolution in that time.

  • @kcoquidam8720
    @kcoquidam8720 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I have a lot of trouble with teen drama, I really hate that mostly because i cannot link with the story and because I have a lot of issue with how teenagers are represented so far from what I remember from my actual teen years.
    I was so afraid of Alice is missing when I played it the first time because of that. And playing it was an experience, like a really touching experience. Because of how the game work and how it give every people the possibility to manage their own limit, I had for the first time a story that feelt real about teenage struggle.
    I think this game is one of the best ever created. I don't think I'll recommand it, because it's so special. But if you have the curiosity to try and, and people you trust to play with, this is one of the most impactfull experience of this decade. No hesitation.

    • @Medytacjusz
      @Medytacjusz ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's this weird mixture of both trying to distance yourself from and romanticise these times. Like none of what happened matters but also those were the most intense years. Everybody was so dumb but also everybody was so great. Wanting to reaffirm that you're now better or wiser than then, but also getting old sucks and being young is awesome.
      It's very conflicted because it's older adults projecting their current issues into the past.

    • @orangerful
      @orangerful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The first time I played, I was essentially RPing as what I thought I was like as a teen. The second time, I played as Alice's brother and tried to act like I thought my brother felt about me - I think all of my characters have helped me revisit and in an odd way worth through the trauma that is growing up, even 30 years later.

    • @GuyRiessen
      @GuyRiessen ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I ran this twice at virtual conventions during the pandemic and it was equally powerful played with strangers AND the texting and discord voice mirroring the actual world made it particularly special.
      Had two people who were brand new to role playing who were incredibly moved

  • @yochaigal
    @yochaigal ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for covering more awesome RPGs, Quinns! Would love to hear about your post-Spire campaign. Was it Heart? I bet it was Heart.

  • @nymeria941
    @nymeria941 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is one of my favorite games of all time. Even just hearing the soundtrack in this video makes me tear up. Getting to playtest some of the original materials and basically facilitating it as Charlie many times, I am so appreciative of its design and the way the story emerges so organically from the game's mechanisms. And yes, it made me cry, too.

  • @Blizzic
    @Blizzic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nobody does RPG reviews quite like y’all. I’d really love to see more.

  • @Platonick66
    @Platonick66 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Played this twice and on one occasion some were close to tears, both excellent experiences

    • @pedroh.pereira8292
      @pedroh.pereira8292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you fell what Quins said about the tour guide experience the second time playing?

  • @donkeyfly43
    @donkeyfly43 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a very good review. I am definitely going to try it... I don't know that I have the heart to try it more than once...

  • @DB13-c1l
    @DB13-c1l ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The voice recording thing is also present in 10 Candles and one of my absolute favorite parts of that game.

  • @MountainsOfSadness
    @MountainsOfSadness ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked Alice is Missing, but I didn't love it as much as many people I see talk about it.
    It was good, I don't regret kickstarting it, and I'm glad I played it, I'll probably play it again sometime; but it wasn't the transformative, emotional experience Quinns describes here.
    The art is beautiful, and the soundtrack incredible, but the game design just felt a little thin. There were points in the game where we all felt like we were sitting around waiting for the next thing to happen. Something happened to one of the player characters, and we were all stuck waiting for the next card - the game rules didn't allow us to go to that PC's location and do anything about it. For everything I liked about this system, it felt like the player characters lacked much agency to actually do anything or influence the story's direction.
    I've played other narrative rules lite RPGs where this wasn't an issue. I'd still recommend people play Alice is Missing for all the good reasons I mentioned, but I like having meaningful choices in my RPG, which I felt like this game didn't provide me. All roleplay, no game.

    • @TheKirby117
      @TheKirby117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm glad I'm not alone in this: reading through the comments I'd think that this game was the best thing since sliced bread. Maybe different RNG very slightly tilts the scales into how much it *feels* like you're able to do, but in our campaign, we all role-played fairly well, but towards the end, it felt a whole lot like a very slow cart on some rails. Literally like 15 minutes between "omg I'm in danger" to anyone actually being able to do anything about it. It's all well and good that we could say "we're on the way!" But we just had to keep coming up with random nothings as to why we were taking so long. "Don't worry, still on the way! Just had to pick up [donuts!/weapons/etc.]" With no payoff (or lack thereof) for preparation.
      The story was nice, but it seems like the creator probably would've just been better telling the story than packaging it as a game. Maybe I just played with a bunch of cynical memers.

  • @EricVulgaris
    @EricVulgaris ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a very very good game indeed. And I also agree with your take on the game and experiences/criticisms 100%

  • @GrassTypeKaty
    @GrassTypeKaty ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "David's a b*tch" 🤣🤣 I love this game for moments like this.

  • @Yokelmutt
    @Yokelmutt ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always love seeing your mug when you're genuinely excited to tell us about something dude.

  • @spookyshelfpodcast
    @spookyshelfpodcast ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Got the game off the back of this video- absolutely adored the experience! Our story ended on a semi-positive note but the rollercoaster to get there was incredible!! Thanks for the review and keep up the excellent work!! ❤

  • @zofiap4330
    @zofiap4330 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I get really strong ''Life is strange'' vibe from this game. And I love that. I can't wait to play it.
    Great review. Appreciate, no spoilers ❤

    • @laszlovincze5095
      @laszlovincze5095 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When Quinn talked about "we used to go to the lighthouse when we wanted to enjoy being miserable", I was like "hey wait a minute..."

    • @zofiap4330
      @zofiap4330 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Laszlo Vincze Exactly!! Same here. Since I've played LIS, lighthouse hits hard

    • @millslifeonstandby
      @millslifeonstandby 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same 😭then I found out that the game is actually inspired by life is strange!!!

  • @batboy968
    @batboy968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We played this yesterday… was awesome can you guys give me some recs for similar games??

  • @AlasdairMacKinnon
    @AlasdairMacKinnon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review - from the trigger warning to the vulnerability throughout.

  • @tourguidechuck
    @tourguidechuck ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go ahead...leave...just like my father!!!

  • @JC-ji1hp
    @JC-ji1hp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The most unrealistic thing about this game is that she needs a secret lesbian lover in 2023 😂😂😂

  • @xChikyx
    @xChikyx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I regret not backing this all in during the first campaign, and now that the second campaing is out there i'm fixing that mistake

  • @JayTohab
    @JayTohab ปีที่แล้ว +2

    FIRST THOUGHT
    There should be an app that functions like a chat, except the DM can make more than one persona. Okay, onto the rest of the video.

  • @ao7239
    @ao7239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you set up the 3 envelope idea prior to play? I wonder if I set up now and then play the game 6 months from now - maybe I would forget the setup or maybe still have some of the time cards still be random and have key parts/time in an envelope to create a better story? If anyone who played this and wants to put the setup in BGG? Maybe only mention the time and first few words of the card so the person setting up doesn't need to read everything for setting up in the envelope.

  • @littlelacho8522
    @littlelacho8522 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I bought this game on a whim, called my friends of varying RP experience (including one who had no RPG experience) to come over that same night. Sat down, set the game up and played the timer on the living room tv. None of us knew about the incredibly powerful and unforgettable experience we were about to have, and I'm glad I jumped into it completely blind. However, I am keen to run it again for another group just to get a completely different experience.

  • @StephenWalrondChance
    @StephenWalrondChance ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the content warning! The last few weeks of news stories have affected me and I’m going to skip this for now. 0:12

  • @zagggs
    @zagggs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn you and, and your great content! Another 25€ sacrificed to the altar of board game entertainment. After watching this, wen't straight to local gameshop site and smashed that "please take my money" -button..

  • @RivoClavis
    @RivoClavis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I played it when it first came out and had an amazingly emotional time. I would not have liked to play it again for quite a long time after, but now I think it's faded enough for a second go with new people. It just takes a little time.

  • @alexvalentine856
    @alexvalentine856 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We also had one too many people on our playthrough so my friend and I shared a character who was prone to tics and immediate mood swings. One moment our character responded to other characters arguing by simultaneously grabbing popcorn but also telling everyone to calm down and get along.

  • @michaeldarch9715
    @michaeldarch9715 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super cool premise, and the review makes me wanna give it ago so bad!

  • @vanderveckensmith
    @vanderveckensmith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We played this, and it was unbelievable. Everything you said it would be.

  • @TheMperor5
    @TheMperor5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Quinns trying to make his new year predictions come true.

  • @JD-qq8fz
    @JD-qq8fz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    (Edit): Sick Android:Netrunner tattoo brah

    • @trig656
      @trig656 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a Netrunner tattoo though? Lol.

    • @prof_hoot
      @prof_hoot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trig656 The netrunner symbol has an insert in it.

    • @JD-qq8fz
      @JD-qq8fz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​@@trig656 You're completely right, that makes infinitely more sense! He's a documented huge fan of Netrunner. I could have sworn there were dangly bits like in OW but I was seeing it wrong, my mistake

  • @RladalFatih
    @RladalFatih ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to see your review of Bluebeard's Bride so much! It has been in my bookshelf for a while, I didn't find an occasion to try it yet. It's the only rpg book that sends me shivers just reading it, it seems such a disturbingly good horror game.
    About Alice is Missing, that game also made me cry. I've run it two times after playing, and it never came close to the same level of immersion, but what an amazing experience it was the first time. It' still one of the greatest RPG experience of my life.

  • @andresdelapena1285
    @andresdelapena1285 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quinns and SUSD: I greatly appreciate that you're reviewing games like these, and that you're leaving space for the art in games to shine. I couldn't watch this review. I've watched every single full-length SUSD review up until now but, living in Mexico, a country where young people are systematically kidnapped, and where women are always under threat of femicide, I couldn't stomach more than the first 2 minutes of the review. I still think it is a very beautiful game as a piece of art and I still think it is really cool that you would review it on SUSD. Keep on keeping on!

  • @joshp8535
    @joshp8535 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Need to know if there is ANYTHING. That could be construed as a spoiler in this video. Just the opening description made me buy it, but I'd love if someone would tell me this before I go further.

    • @Arthas30000
      @Arthas30000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No spoilers, can confirm.

    • @joshp8535
      @joshp8535 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Arthas30000 appreciate it. Man, that description was so up my alley. Dark stuff about humanity is such a draw for me. That's why I love This War of Mine.

  • @Lucas79671
    @Lucas79671 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, I’m really hoping to see a Masks review (and bluebeards bride). Masks is such an interesting concept and execution such that I can’t tell if they nailed it or missed half the content needed to make it work.

    • @garthantash
      @garthantash ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can tell you my review of playing Masks for about 20 sessions.
      It is not a superhero game at all, it is a teen angst game with the thinnest veneer of superhero stuff. I wanted a game about putting on capes and fighting crime like the Teen Titans, the game wants you to spend all your time working out what your high school guidance counsellor thinks and if your character agrees. Some people say it is their favourite game, my gaming group absolutely hated it. The shame was we really liked out teen hero characters but had to fight the game system infinitely more than fighting bad guys and in the process poisoned my group against trying any other PbtA games whereas I know a better match of theme and game mechanics (Monster Hearts, World Wide Wrestling for example) could be really fun.

  • @jonahfalcon1970
    @jonahfalcon1970 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wait, Holding On: The Troubled Life of Billy Kerr, the game about the dying guy in a hospital, didn't make Quinn cry?

    • @TymofiiLisovychenko
      @TymofiiLisovychenko ปีที่แล้ว

      I bought that game on a whim because I wanted to like the premise but the gameplay really brings it down *bad* - so much that after just one game I didn't want to play it again despite liking the premise. I'm not even sure I'm going to play it through before binning it, I'm going to ask around if there's someone that wants to play that with me but playing it just sucks.

  • @hdubbs9174
    @hdubbs9174 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been wanting this game for a while! I’ll take this video as a sign.

  • @thepeopleslibrary9345
    @thepeopleslibrary9345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a wild experience of this game, my partner and I introduced this to two friends who had never roll played. We were afraid they wouldn’t be able to lose themselves in the characters, boy were we wrong. They created the most over the top, absurd characters and then commuted completely and totally to playing them to the max. It basically turned the game into two people trying to find a missing girl, and two people so absorbed into their toxic, horrible characters that all they could do was shit post in a group chat. It definitely was not the intended style of the game, but we had a great time. We laughed so hard for 90 minutes straight

  • @demigodzero9
    @demigodzero9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you pin a link to your live stream of the game if it is available to watch? I dont plan to get this game but would love to watch a playthrough.

  • @alwaysplaythegame
    @alwaysplaythegame ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah I feel like it's good this exists, but after that intro I think I'm going to slowly walk away from this one.

  • @mathcow
    @mathcow ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've run it 9 times. I've had people ugly cry at the end. I had one person so overwhelmed by the ending that she needed 5 minutes to respond.
    It deserves the accolades it won. Its FANTASTIC.

  • @LordApricot
    @LordApricot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love all this RPG content! I have a bad habit of buying exciting new RPGs and then not being able to find room to play them amongst my existing RPG campaigns. Being just a single evening experience this sounds much more likely for me to get it to the table.
    I am concerned about the mystery being incoherent because I think that's something that would really bother me and at least some of my friends. But given that the PDF is pretty cheap and it only takes an evening it sounds like it's worth trying regardless. And perhaps going in knowing not to expect it all to piece together might make it easier to just go along for the ride rather than trying to solve it.

  • @jenoneuph
    @jenoneuph ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You made me buy it 😂 I love these types of experiences!

  • @nielsfogtmann3164
    @nielsfogtmann3164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    omg, you just made the store that I work at, overrun with cutomers who wants Alice is Missing.

  • @gomezthechimp1116
    @gomezthechimp1116 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought this in 2020 withoout knowing much about it. Unfortunately, I couldn't bring myself to play it. The idea of a bunch of middle-aged men pretending to be Californian teenagers was just too creepy...

  • @gingerbread6640
    @gingerbread6640 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just played my first game and had an interesting session. Game was amazingly tense and had a hilarious Tarantino style ending between the town police and our perpetrator. Highly recommend

  • @riddlemethisjbb
    @riddlemethisjbb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my favorite game full stop. I have played it 3 times and each expereince was dreadfully beautiful!

  • @koshi6505
    @koshi6505 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    More games need to make use of text messaging. We have this neat tool that lets you easily have multiple discreet conversations at a table, but it's underused.

    • @thumper8684
      @thumper8684 ปีที่แล้ว

      The old school way was to write notes on paper, but mostly they were to the GM.

  • @Alessandro-vv2fh
    @Alessandro-vv2fh ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This game is incredible, fully agreed.

  • @Teledahn
    @Teledahn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quinns, tell us what the TH-cam analytics say about viewers leaving at the 2 minute mark.

  • @marcbennett9232
    @marcbennett9232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sounds like an emotional roller coaster, I dont play games for that though. I played games as a teenager to get away from that, im not going to play a game looking for that. this is a hard pass for me.

  • @John_Doe974
    @John_Doe974 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From thumbnail thought it was somehow a card game of the old Flash game Alice is Missing. Which I now remember is actually Alice is Dead.
    Alice is Dead are some classic Flash games, huge recommend.

  • @nicolasfontenla2396
    @nicolasfontenla2396 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This one is REALLY good. Bought it and was waiting for a chance to play it, then a friend suggest playing it on his birthday, and while some where more into it than others, it was such a tense and different experience...
    Also worth noting was how the one in charge screwed and read the final card wrong. We all agreed it might have been for the best, as we got a more satisfying ending than the one the card threw us!

  • @DramaticFlora
    @DramaticFlora 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    FINALLY played this myself. Im glad i played it and an unholy number of details across every bit of the game lined up perfectly for our story. Its a really intetesting and chaotic experience. Definetly worth a try

  • @Tharukan
    @Tharukan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi! What do you think how well this translates? Game is only available in english but roleplaying is difficult in another language. Do you think this works with English material when playing in another language?
    Also, how beginner-friendly is this?
    Hope I get an answer, thanks! :)

    • @peterstedman6140
      @peterstedman6140 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmm, if several of you all are fluent in reading English, it would probably still work. Since the bulk of the game is the cross-player communication, you'd just need someone translating the cards.

    • @Tharukan
      @Tharukan ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterstedman6140 That's not a problem, was just wondering if something of the atmosphere would get lost in translation! Thanks, I'll try to get my hands on it!

  • @Squatch_needs_no_heroes
    @Squatch_needs_no_heroes ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So Quinns still does reviews? I thought it was the Tom show.

  • @YoJesusMorales
    @YoJesusMorales ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting, having a game with a group chat mandatory for RPing.

  • @CrabQueen
    @CrabQueen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I could get full spoilers, because this sounds perfect, but I just. Can't handle sexual misconduct. It really hurts in the wrong way for me to *play* in that space, but hearing/seeing it unfold it something I could stomach better.

    • @chastermief839
      @chastermief839 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately I get the impression that it's pretty hard to do an AP of this game. Doesn't really translate to a podcast or livestream format very well, lol.

    • @neildoran4681
      @neildoran4681 ปีที่แล้ว

      One thing Quinn's doesn't explain is that part of the set up. Players can draw lines around content that can not be included in the game and veil where it can be included to but not discussed in detail.

  • @paulpardee
    @paulpardee ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This review makes me want to go replay Disco Elysium.
    You should also go play Disco Elysium. I know it's a computer game, but... seriously. Do it. DO IT NOW!

  • @Arthas30000
    @Arthas30000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this game. Such a deep RP experience.
    Edit: I also really like the premise of Masks xD me showing my TTRPG side lol. GL guys and have fun!
    Fantastic review. Spoiler free. And also, if you know, then you know. Can totally relate to everything Quinns described.

    • @johanneswerner1140
      @johanneswerner1140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Part of my rpg group played it. I did not have time, unfortunately. They played it using The Foundry, I think.

    • @Arthas30000
      @Arthas30000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johanneswerner1140 What's the point of foundry for Alice is Missing? I'd say use Tabletop Simulator for the cards if you're doing it virtually. But it's a game best played irl in my experience.

    • @johanneswerner1140
      @johanneswerner1140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Arthas30000 good question. I wasn't there 😀
      They might have just used discord, but half of our DMs are heavily invested in the Foundry... (so yeah, I don't know)

    • @Arthas30000
      @Arthas30000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johanneswerner1140 Fair 😂

  • @SebastianHay
    @SebastianHay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love the concept but are there any alternatives to this with less heavy themes?

  • @adamsboringvids
    @adamsboringvids ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice but I know there’s no way in hell I’d convince my gaming group to play this!

  • @demonicbunny3po
    @demonicbunny3po ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember listening to a good number of the podcast episodes. I didn't know that they created a game. Wonder if there is or is going to be a Welcome to Nightvale game. I had recently offered to run for my RPG group a series of one-shots of various games so we could try out different systems. This one sounds like an interesting one to try out sometime.

    • @regnsloja
      @regnsloja ปีที่แล้ว

      No, you're thinking of the podcast "Alice Isn't Dead". I don't think they are related? That podcast was a kind of supernatural surreal thing, this seems more grounded.

  • @squidjam
    @squidjam ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "a red herring", welp, that's maybe part of the whole experience... Not-a-bug-but-a-feature kinda deal...

  • @patricklpruitt
    @patricklpruitt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven’t seen one of your videos in ages! I’m so happy this came through my feed!

  • @thinusconradie4297
    @thinusconradie4297 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It's hard being a TH-camr. I do the best I can." If I wasn't already a LONG time fan of your channel, I would watch on the back of that pitch alone.

  • @MD0Hatter
    @MD0Hatter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to hear about Bluebeard's Bride if you feel like covering that after you've played it!

  • @boardgameplayers1779
    @boardgameplayers1779 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great game. Surprisingly emotional.

  • @TheSchaef47
    @TheSchaef47 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    14:45 Dear Esther suffers from that problem. It's a beautiful walking simulator and the script is artful and poignant, but it has random variations which means that things don't always come together in a way that feels like it was going somewhere in particular. It sometimes meanders in a way reminiscent of an ai chat bot that seems to be conversing nicely and then veers off into foreign territory and shows the cracks in the technology.

  • @ChadUrsoMcDaniel
    @ChadUrsoMcDaniel ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran this at SHUX 2022 and am so happy that you liked it and are showing it to others.

  • @Loki087
    @Loki087 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just picked this game up. Watched this video a while back and am looking forward to trying it out.