SAR USA's Generation 3 SAR9 Striker Fired Handguns [TriggrCon 2023]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2024
- @JamesReeves is chatting with SAR USA today to talk about their latest generation of 9mm semi-automatic striker-fired handguns - the SAR 9 GEN 3. According to SAR USA the SAR 9 might be the most rigorously tested pistol ever and during development, the SAR 9 survived through 150,000 rounds of live fire at the factory. The SAR 9 comes ready to customize from the factory can features a 20-degree grip angle, along with interchangeable back straps for customization to the user.
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James is a really great interviewer most likely from being a lawyer. It's cool to me how he just guides them through the interview. Keep them coming because we love it!
Very well said but I would have liked from a comical point of view to have seen this guy give the introduction with out the guidance 😅
He asks the most important questions when can I get it and how much.
As a fellow lawyer, I like to tell people that I “talk for a living.” The skill set carries over pretty well into other areas.
I aspire to be as smooth as James
Salesman: "we had one SAR9 go 150,000 rounds without failure."
James: "OBJECTION!"
That’s a really good observation. I always wondered where he got his interviewing skills from and just chalked it up to potentially watching a lot of really documentaries or something to that effect. Him being a lawyer is probably a great skill set for interviews and public speaking.
Good thing that James was there to walk Raul through the interview.
I like how TFBtv has been putting these Triggercon videos out like episodes in a mini series as opposed to a lengthy video all at once, which would normally get redundant and boring and be changed eventually. Each time these videos have been getting posted, I’m genuinely excited to see them.
Probably better revenue this way too
@@aerodynechambers That part is true also. Two birds.
If you ever wanted to see an interview where James is absolutely not taking the bait, this was it.
ya, this guy talked up the gun when I was there too but I was disappointed on range day. I'll stick with Canik as far as Turkish guns.
Yes because likes of CZ, berreta and S&W pay this guy hefty amount of dollars to sing their songs, i saw his interviews with them he was completely humble there.
Unaffected by temperatures, American company, 150000 rounds Raul Poot guy was given an April’s fool’s script. Best interview of the year the best channel !😂
I wanted to wriye an essay (lol) and wouldn't want to disappear under line of new comments. So imma putting here, sorry again. :P
The company is good, they're second right after Canik, they compete each other in TR frequantly. Lately they (SAR) got both SF rifle and SF pistol deal in TR. This ain't an easy thing.
Everything he said was most likely true (bcs. Sarsılmaz saying these stuffs everytime/everywhere since Sar9 was borned)
but to me he (rep.) was so uninterested and maybe unprofessional that this kills all his explanations. (and with these, they always be second right after Canik, if they will be continue like that)
American "company"part, yes SAR Firearms established in U.S. Similar to Canik's HK's or FN's U.S. established detachments.
Yes gun runs 150k without broke apart or stopping running, but obviously with spring etc. changes. No gun can run 150k without spring etc. replacement.
At that test, they likely wanted to run a faith jump test -so to speak, then they getting prevail, then engineers or some uninterested manager said these to people from ear to ear -without details, then rightfully this becomes a myth for hearers. Their marketing part was always sucks.
Unaffected or less affected to temperature, yes, afaik this gun "or first/original Sar9" has steel chassie in it's polymer frame. Most polymer pistols does not have that. This also creates more weight but better durability against outside forces (bomb effects, dropping etc.),life longevity of the frame/slide and better temperature durability compared to other polymers.
Regarding SAR, they're very good, but like other companies too, buyers should beware somethings. For SAR, regarding of two things.
After cleaning, ensure your firing pin cap is (the one that looks shooter's face) correctly placed both from factory and from the one who conducted disassembly last time.
And second, before buying, control your mags are working, they make their own mags afaik, and they also works so magazines are also good, but "pre-serial produce/proto magazines might get in to your packege if the gun is first time entering the market.
Other than that, they're glock style rugged and hk style comfy pistols at the same time. Basically what VP9 could have been. So they're good.
Edit: Hmmm he says without parts replacement, maybe not continious shooting then. Something like days/months long test, but i'm sure this one thing, they say this stuff for years, in part of at that time's Defence Procurement Agency tests.
Probably partly true. I don't think it could be a bogus. Because they're not shy about continious firing or durability tests, their channel does have multiple pistol/smg/rifle/machine gun vids like that.
Haha don't forget Night Vision Sights😂
@@ugurkaya2511 how much time did you waste typing all that nonsense?
@@heyhayhay247 If you have questions, shoot them?
@@ugurkaya2511 don't waste your time; I'll never buy one
I concur when I bought my first gun it was a Sar 9 he put it in my hands and I was completely sold. I do also believe that everyone should have a Glock or Sig if you're unsure of Sarsilmaz reliability. I trust them they take pride in their testing and I can respect that.
You are right, these big gun manufacturers are just selling their names. Their guns are nice but overpriced. Ruger, Sar, Canik are doing great job.
I love how all these companies at trade shows can't seem to afford good salespeople to represent them, so they grab a guy from the backroom who then proceeds to know less about the gun or the company than the janitor at said trade show.
Lmao I like companies like that. Spend your money on manufacturing not marketing
I refuse to believe that 😂
FIGHT ME BRO!!! 😅
2:10 -- Salesman: "We had 150,000 rounds through one gun with no problems."
James, without hesitation: "I refuse to believe that."
Way to keep 'em honest, Jimbo 😂 Not sure I believe that either.
Hilarious
@@alvolante4164 I think somebody might have added an extra "0" on that round count lol.
that was hilarious! @@superrad1659
Bet it was from a single magazine!
@@alvolante4164 ah yes, those pesky 150k caliber, high-capacity rounds automatic magazine clips...
American….. meaning Turkish? Lol but on a side note I have one and it’s a good firearm for the price. It’s basically a HK mixed with a Glock
Well he works for SAR USA so he isn’t entirely wrong
I'm guessing he meant the importer company is US owned. Sar guns are DEFINITELY Turkish. I reacted the same way when I heard that. 😂
Didn't even watch it till the end yet and I'm already upvoting because of... TFBTV
SAR is an American distributor of Turkish made firearms...there fixed it for you.
“you want to look at what you’re looking at and once you’re looking at it you wanna bring the pistol up to and look at it before looking at what you’re looking at you’ll be right on”😂
I like my Sar 9 compact. Purchased it about 4 yrs ago. It is an amazing gun. Trigger a little long before the break. I’m looking to buy the new compact model hopefully in white or Green. Hard to believe ppl have never heard of this gun. Maybe as an enthusiast (military). I read about it way before purchase.
The smaller one( ala g43) accepts the same mags from the bigger brothers ( ala g19/17/34 ) and this is really cool.
I love my 9x. I'm probably going to get the gen 3 or the socom they are so nice
All SAR employees should be required to wear a fez.
😂
😭😭😭
Damm ! These have all the great features you could want !
That was hard to watch… glad James was there to help him out 😂😂
I'd imagine it's probably a perfectly good pistol, but it is a reaaaaalllly tough market at $500 (unless these end up with street prices of $350, etc.).
It is a very crowded market segment.
350-400 street
Raul is right about the ergonomics. I held a few different SARs at the NRA show this year. Hands down the most comfortable pistol I've ever held. They just felt right in my hand.
@@mhoye76I wonder if they feel that good shooting though
Will it work with regular 9mm ammo or did they make the same mistake as Canik with the 124 Nato ammo only ?
this man interviewed like james was pointing a more reputable firearm at him instead of a microphone
150k rounds!? Pics or it didn't happen 😂
Maybe 150k rounds over like 100 different test guns lol
An incredibly bold statement. Would love to see more data behind it.
Without replacing a part he said. Lol.
Yup, where is the evidence?
@@davidgaines8607
To me this is only possible (without parts replacement) if the test conducted for days long, or months long. Most of the greater stress is coming from continous firing i think. If shooter does not continously fires 150k, then i think it could be possible, maybe.
Good day. What is the best SAR pistol for left-handed people?
Messaged SAR USA on Facebook and directly regarding the GEN 2. Never received a response…. Later.
Unaffected by temperature - nice one.
These look fab. Its like an H&K mated with a Walther.
I have a Sar B6P that I got for 250 bucks. I love that gun. Thousands of rounds and the only problem I've ever had is the front sight flew off the gun. A little bit of locktite solved that problem. I'm really interested in getting the compact model now...
It's not really that compact compared to some others but the entire Sar9 line is top notch as far as reliability and ergonomics go.
He wasn’t that familiar with the fire arm. I had the original Gen 1 imported from turkey. It has been flawless with no malfunction. The square takedowns are awesome. Looking to get my hands in the white sub.
I want that compact. Can't find it anywhere
Sarsilmaz Firearms Corp. is a privately owned small arms manufacturer based in Turkey. The statement "SAR is an American firearm company" is BS.
Yep, direct accurate quote from Wikipedia. SAR USA OTOH is a US firearms company. The statement "SAR is an American firearm company" is more a semantical obfuscation of the truth.
C'mon James, we know you're not buying this over Glock😅 but seriously it's still a great value. Got that VP9 grip, too. I personally own a SAR 9X.
Nice 👍
Need that compact 👀
HK had a USP @ 200k rounds go in for service.
I would be reserved on this handgun even though the testing process. PARTS is a concern and warranty.
I hear good things about SAR
No mention on the capacity on the smallest model or did I miss it?
13 rds, but it does accept the 17 and 19rd mags with a mag sleeve.
Cool
Only complaint I have is that it's not an FCU gun. Otherwise looks solid, and I'm glad they have a subcompact model since that's what a lot of people want right now.
FCU?
@@spartanx169x C'mon chief... fire control unit. Think like the new Sigs.
I would put money on less than 0.01% of all FCU model owners ever having swapped their FCUs.
@@DeerUNIT42 Yep, and you'd be right. It's basically a sales gimmick. It serves more purpose in countries where firearms are much more strictly controlled - and even there, I don't imagine most people are doing it. You also need external companies to bother. No company in the U.S. is going to specialize in frames or slides for a Turkish handgun that almost no one knows about.
It's a silly gimmick for 99.99999% of people.
Fan of Turkish made pistols had caniks and a brg9
Been waiting for tfb to to cover the sar 9. He isn’t lying on the rigorous testing although I thought it was 90k plus nato testing that has been published
I have the gen 2 and it’s the perfect offspring of an hk vp9 lower and glock slide, I’ve heard the gem threes trigger is even better but I can complain about the predictability and consistency of my sar 9 full size from a defensive or duty gun standpoint.
Let me first say I've been a Sarsilmaz fan for years, I love their polymer cz-75 clone and have found the sar-9's to be very good pistols but I am somewhat incredulous about their longevity claims. I've always thought they looked underbuilt, there are areas of the slide where the material is really thin. For instance the area on the top of the ejection port where the barrel locks in is noticeably thinner than a Glock.
@@owllymannstein7113 On the plus side (weirdly), most people who buy firearms won't even shoot 2,000 rounds during the life of the firearm. So in that regard, most civilians won't notice longevity issues.
Pinocchio marketing services for SAS American 🇺🇸 company with 150,000. Rounds and no breakages. Slide made of vibranium shots Adamtium bullets.
Probably used Unobtanium for the full length guide rod too!
James' succinct opinion at 02:13 sums it up for me. Case closed.
The SAR rep needs to rehearse his company story and features & benefits.
He got fired
I remember coming across that happening at the show 😂😊. Great people and definitely another competitor to the market should be interesting
We Witness that historical moment where Canik and Glocks and S&W and CZ etc all barrels Blasted but Sarsilmaz Passed 250,000 Rounds easily. Salute you Sarsilmaz for Defeating all the Reputable Guns.
Sar is Turkish Made. They are SarUsa in Alabama.
What is the difference between the Gen 3 SAR-9 and the SAR 9 socom ???
It's Like pulling teeth trying to get info
More double stack .45 ACP Sar, more double stack .45
The sar 9 did indeed make it 150l rounds I remember reading about it a few years back. It’s seriously a tank of a handgun. I’m getting the gen 3 compact and retiring the 19.
🤔
I mean you read it so it must be true😂
@@pharaongaming8617 Their claim is that it did that with no parts failures requiring replacement, not that there were zero malfunctions at the range.
@@barfo281 oh ok that seems feasible
Most Combat type handguns (Stuff Like Glock, M&P, Beretta APX, IWI Masada, CZ P10C and other similar Pistols) can hold up to same level too but of course all will have jams, This is what I didn't believe about Sar 9. Tbh most good Pistols are made from Same Materials
As a Hispanic I was glad to see some representation in the firearms world, but my guy floundered 😭😭
Fumbled the bag from the start but he tried 💀. I ain't mad at him.
I just assume that most of the people James is interviewing are not actual sales people - just someone from the company who is standing there to keep the booth occupied.
Are people from Brazil considered Hispanic? If yes, then I would say, Hispanic people have had lots of representation in the fire arms world.
@@Ship-security -- Brazilians are Hispanic, yes.
Hispanic speak Spanish Latin American is a best description for a Brazilian brothers and sisters
At that price point, I’d just get a Canik and a case of ammo.
Why are these salespeople always so fucking nervous to describe the gun they’re there to sell lmfao.
"Get yourself a Glock..." - Samuel Gerard , "The Fugitive"
I think that’s actually in “U.S. Marshalls” because he’s telling Robert Downy Jr. to get rid of his sissy stainless steel pistol.
Right you are! @@riflemanm16a2
I was giving the benefit of the doubt for being nervous and then bam “150 rounds” that came out of no where. No way they have done 150. LT manufacturing has just done 30 thousand on the cx4 and that was a mission to do that’s a lot of time to do
He said 150,000 not 150
So essentially a Glock with some Sig/Walther/HK influences going on.
Correct, a glock clone with a HK p30 style grip.
@@owllymannstein7113 With an old style Walther P99 takedown lever (full size).
What did we just watch
Almost better than my HK VP9 & (sk).
Sar vs Canik?
Those internals look familiar.
Yes... Very Austria if I were to take a wild stab at that familiarity. 😉 🤣
American company that imports its product?
I put night fision sights on most of my guns, but that’s all it’s got going for it. PSA Dagger for price or shadow system for features.
Same here. Got 3 Daggers. Super accurate and they are like erector sets. Catch a blemished slide or frame on sale and change out cuts, colors, barrels, etc. Also, primary carry is a Shadow Systems CR920 (which is on sale now for $499 at...wait for it...PSA). It is the only subcompact I have ever shot that does not shoot like a sub. Shoots more like a compact. Very little muzzle flip for such a small pistol.
I don't understand the obsession for night sights.
The use case is significantly more limited than most people realize.
3:14 👉👌
I really hope there is a firearm at triggercon that is not a plastic 9mm.
Why?
@transtubular Because I already have one, and have zero interest in another.
Look it's a glock copy. My question would be way spend 550 on a sat when I can get a glock 19 mos at the same price? Or the hand full of others? The price needs to come down a bit to make America jump on it! To me it's a dagger but cost much more
I really like my sar 9 gen2, I dont really like these ported models though.
👍
How can you trust anything after he said it’s American…
👍🏻👍🏻🍺🍺
I’m not positive but I feel like this interview would be comparable to pulling teeth to get this guy to be relatable & the rep for a business anywhere. Lmao
Any variants with a manual thumb safety coming soon for the MicroSubcompact or the Compact?
Did this guy boof a bunch of benzos before the interview. In all fairness there’s no chance I would’ve bought one if it was a good interview but that was comically bad. “To me it’s just a good gun. You look at something then point the gun at it and then when you look at the thing again there’s a gun pointing at it now.”
I've got 200k rounds through my G19 without a hiccup or a single part swapped... "not a joke!"
I like the way James asked questions. He don't put people on the spot, but he asks relevant questions without offending people. I think the subcompact version best fit me however it doesn't have a light rail. That's the reason I wouldn't buy it.
I am unconvinced my friend.
He's not your friend, pal.
@@oskar6661he's not your pal buddy
@miguelambriz9109
He’s not your buddy, mister…
I don't like how he LIED saying SAR is an American company. They are a Turkish company.
This or the Tisas PX-9 that takes 226 mags...?
I’d say this due to ergonomics and quality control given that sar all be it out of Turkey has had a lot of time in firearms manufacturing for nato military and law enforcement backgrounds and the testing that has been done on the sar 9 line of pistols. I’ve shot both but personally own a sar 9 full-size for transparencies sake.
The PX9 gen 3 takes 226 mags. Not sure about previous generations.
The magazines are also reasonable prices and available on their website at a better price point than I often find 226 mags
Probably a toss up, both Sar and Tisas make pretty high quality stuff. It will mostly be a matter of whichever feels better in your hand.
I have never felt a worse trigger than on a SAR9.
worse than Glock ?
Much worse
I agree my only complaint on my Sar-9 is the trigger. I bought an aftermarket trigger for it and it didn't improve that much really.
Did you put a fair amount of rounds through it? Mine seemed to get much better after about 500 rounds and really smoothed out.
The guys at Classic Firearms did a comparison of the SAR vs Canik line from sub compact to the metal competition and chose SAR every single time but once or twice over Canik giving SAR the win
SAR is an American Firearms Company ???
Sar means sarsılmaz turkish company
SAR, hire me for your next show!! I'll BRING IT!!
Represent Turkey, no thanks!
@@Phone-sh7jg That is a good point. I'm merely speaking from a marketing perspective.
150,000 rounds?
...without any major parts failures requiring replacement.
My only issue is that they added an optics cut but no ambidextrous slide release. Even Glock does that these days.
The fact that this rep had to balls to pretty much lie in front of this famous guntuber saying they have had 150,000 rounds through one of the guns without a part change is absolutely Ludicrous. I have made my time very dedicated to watching reliability and durability pistol reviews so i can get a good understanding one the pure quality of the build of these guns. And id say HK is on the upper end of that and the most i think i have heard a HK pistol go is like 60k maybe more with out part change in even i believe it was the p30 they made changes to it because it had a part break at 40k so they beefed it up more to make it go more. That was a crazy statement that this man made! No question i do believe these are well built guns and u do get a lot for your money but 150k claim is out of this world insane and was probably either a lie or well a lie!! and if proof comes out down the road and these do have the ability to go that long without issues then every fucking one should put old glock down and pick one up. Ill have one soon when the socoms are realest and ill start my testing lol. Love TFBTV i learn a lot from this channel! TFBTV dives deep into manufacturers and i love that!!
I’m really surprised everyone’s acting this way about this statement. Not saying the 150,000 is true or false but literally every review video from them and a few other guntubers has stated this test was done. Even if it’s a lie they’ve been regurgitating it since the first gen was released. Kind of late for the outrage but I get it.
Hey if multiple sources are saying its legit then im excited to own own one soon@@georgepeak861
"it's just a great gun I don't know..." not first time triggercon, but these guys need a bit training.
Very good firearms for the money, liking the new flat face trigger and night sights. Also like the chassis FCG which is not for lightweights to service. SAR doesn't yet have the Glock OEM and aftermarket support. Wish SAR would have kept the safety on the compacts, probably removed it on the behalf of squawking armchair Rambos.
150.000 rounds and American made. Muy interesante
American Imported :)
Tlock
I’m sure it’s reliable and a good go to option, but 150k rounds come on man. I bet it has a near 25/30k round life.
The original Sar 9 is advertised to have been put through the 150k round count, whether that's true or not I'm not certain. I own one and it's great, compares to a Glock 17.
@@KrankyYankyee they’re a great Glock/Canik Alternative for sure.
For that price...yeah, no. I can get 2 PSA Daggers.
These days an pistol needs ambi controls, im lefty.
Sarsilmaz makes a lot of great guns but for some reason I don't like the Sar9. It is not appealing to me!
the 150k rounds is def bs. I own a SAR B6p and carry it a lot because of how much i trust it. Still bs lie
I don't like holes in my firearms.
But speed holes makes it cooler fo yo IG pics
"JAG"
Just another Glock
I can answer that James you wouldn't look at a SAR ever unless it was 279$ ...lol ..ever
Yeah 550 for a Turkish hangun thats as basic as a psa dagger ..ill be buying 2 lol ...
I seen a SAR 9 being used in Ukraine covered in mud and he mag dumps it into a bunker! It definitely runs in mud!
"Seriously American, Really"
Felt like James is a bit fed up in disbelief towards the end lol 🤣🤣 yea nah I call 150k rds bs
Toyota is an American car company. 🙂
That's going to be a big ole no for me, dawg.