BIRTH OF THE SALAMANDERS! THE HERITAGE OF VULKAN!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- Hi all Rho here! Today we continue our look at Vulkan, Primarch of the Salamanders! As we discuss the birth of his legion. How they shared the same lesson as him...
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Still one of my favorite moments from the reunification was how Vulkan addressed the survivors:
"The survivors of the Terran XVIIIth knelt immediately, it is said, before their Primarch, but Vulkan bid them rise, saying that all his sons were equals and he was no petty king needing shows of obedience. Instead, it was he who knelt in honour of the lives they had saved and the price they had paid."
If Angron (spelling) had never had the nails; Angron and Vulcan would have been two of the great Brother pairs.
That's a really unexpected idea and I love it. You're right. He stood up to his oppressors and led a slave rebellion. Definitely something Vulkan would support.
@@yuliydubovyk3080 I tend to disagree here. Many/ most Primarchs showed this kind of loyalty and consideration for their human brothers in arms. Many led revolts and overcame oppressors. So, in this regard Angron isn't really an exception of the rule.
The Butcher's Nails are a game-changer; so we'll probably never know which aspect of the Emperor Angron was meant to reflect (certainly not "constant rage because of partial lobotomy).
Vulcan, out of all of the Emperor's sons, was the apotheosis of virtue, empathy and selflessness. He was the consummate " human being" encapsulated within a Demigod. Like Magnus in desperate search for his shard that made him pure and virtuous. I believe THIS ,is why the Emperor valued Vulcan so dearly. Because VULCAN represents the pure magnanimity and altruistic nature of the Emperor. Viva Vulcan !!! Viva the Salamanders!!! Viva Nocturne!!!!!
I agree. I also think this is why Vulkan was also the Emperor's actual favorite son. If you're a fan of the "human emperor" interpretation, then it makes sense for him to like some of his sons who take after him the most to be his favorite. I feel like Vulkan, Lionel Johnson, and Sanguineous were his special boys.
I think it's because Vulkan is a perpetual. The reason why the Emperor took Vulkan under his wing more than any of his power sons. And he wasn't an asshole. He was legitimately a good person. Maybe a too good for his own good initially
I was looking for this comment I’m not anyone in that thinking
There is that, as well as the fact that we know that the Emperor used Vulkhan to craft a range of artefacts for purposes unkown.
It could be that he may have helped the Emperor construct parts of the Golden Throne even!
When Vulkan is reunited with the legion, the way they reacted was truly touched with humanity, a dying legionnaire asks if that is their Primarch and father? Satisfied to have seen him and been reunited with him. That and Vulkan asking if his Nocturne recruits still thought the legion suicidal? All doubt of such a trait had disappeared.
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I wonder what would happend if Vulkan would have found Angron first before the Emperor. Big Hug time instead of neglect = loyal Primarch
Aye haha so many great what if moments to think about had the primarchs spent more time with eachother and the emperor. As another comment mentioned; if say ferrus, pert and vulkan spent more time together - how different would things have been for pert, if curze and sanguinius, if alpharius and corax and the khan, if fulgrim had opened up to ferrus about what was going on with him etc
I do like the idea of angron and vulkan being dude bros though haha
It would have been interesting if any two primarchs landed on the same world, or close enough to meet a decent chunk of time before the emperor found them
One Million Orks: "Oi, weez gawt deez gitz surrounded!"
Nineteen Thousand Astartes: "You poor bastards."
I like to imagine when Vulkan dropped on the battlefield, the Salamanders for the first time shouted
*VULKAN LIVES!!!* *STOMP* *STOMP*
A while ago I was looking through some of your older videos and I saw a very interesting comment.
It was talking about every Primarch having a “god soul” in them.
We know that the Warp amplifies belief and makes it real. Look at the Orks.
Therefore, all human mythology and deities that were truly believed in DID exist but only when they were believed in. However, they all faded when human belief was not strong enough to sustain them.
This comment claimed that when the Emperor and Malcador were creating the Primarchs, they took the souls from twenty faded mythological figures and combined it with a shard of the Emperor’s own soul.
Therefore, every Primarch is somewhat of a reincarnation of a folklore figure or deity from Earth’s past - to an extent.
I don’t actually know if you’ve done a video on this before, but it’s an interesting topic.
If not, could you consider doing one?
This is an amazing idea! I hope this becomes cannon lore.
@@Tom-lx5re I loved it when I first found it because you can match each Primarch to a different figure, e.g. Fenris Wolf for Leman Russ, Hephaestus/Vulcan for Vulkan, etc
Yup! That is a pretty Big Brainer moment right there.
@@LysimedVenteel Leman Russ would make more sense to be Tyr; norse god of war. As Fenrir, was, well, a wolf. But it does make sense where you're coming from.
@@requirescoffee8420 I considered Tyr, but Fenrir seemed more fitting to explain the Canis Helix.
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VULKAN LIVES!!!
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Vulkan was also the only primarch capable of making the dead man’s switch for the golden throne. Being an actual immortal was probably quite the bonus too, he could be the last (very much is currently in the siege of terra) man standing. Like Ferrus, Vulkan has the ability to craft incredible weapons that few could ever match. Imagine how much the emperor “learned” from a Being how is inherently a master smith?
terminus decree is when vulkan comes back let him kill his father?
@@ah9580 not as far as I’m aware. This comment is referring to the talisman of seven hammers, a device made by Vulkan so that upon the golden throne failing, a super duper big ass warp nuke would be set off and in the emperors words “strike the ruinous powers a blow they can never recover from” and essentially make a loyalist eye of terror around the sol system
I see it as Vulcan could be fixed with his issues about not wanting to be a warrior but Kurz and Angron where broken beyond anyway of fixing so he just tried to get the most out of them.
Vulcan was meant to lead the high lords of Terra specifically because he is the most human. I am Alpharius.
Hydra Dominatus.
*I* am Alpharius, Omegon…
HUGS FOR THE HUG GOD! BOOPS FOR THE BOOP THRONE!
Of course Big E spent more time with him.
If you could spend time with any Primarch, wouldn't it be Vulkan?
He's the best.
Can you imagine ANY other Primarch bending a knee to his own sons?
My pick is always Sanguinius. He is the real MVP.
Salamanders are the cutest amphibians and best marines
Vulkan week best week
LET'S GO
The big E kept Vulkan around longer because he was thinking that he was losing his humanity after the Unification wars and he knew Vulkan could help with the matter.
perhaps it's not about vulkan needing more tutelage from the emperor, rather that the emperor needed to be reminded of his humanity by spending time with vulkan.
Thanks man I'm really happy you did this for us born in fire and darkness!
Could it be they knew Vulcan had the immortal gene like the Emperor. So they worked on him dying in the privacy over and over again, so that he could rise faster from each death. Maybe the Emperor had a vision and knew he had to be be prepared to die and come back before a certain time.
That's so grim dark! I love it
So Big E had to forge Vulcan into a general.
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I have nothing witty to say. I love my legion/chapter. That's all.
Vulcan's the only perpetual primarch. That's Something special he sares with the emperor. They may have needed more time together
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I will always play Sally's on table top and make that army fluffy! Whether it's good or not
I feel like Vulkan is one of the few primarchs we can honestly say was a 100% success. He’s by far the most well adjusted primarch, has one of the most empathetic natures of any of them, straight up loves who he fights for and is loathe to ever abuse his immense power.
All the primarchs have great things going for them, but being honest if I got a chance to meet any of them I wouldn’t even think twice before choosing Vulkan.
Vulkan is my favorite Primark
If I’ve literally never read a Salamander story (so I only know why is common lore about them) what should I read to get a feel?
What book was this, that had Vulkan reuniting with his Terran sons? Thanks in advance.
The Emperor took his sweet ass time with Vulcan..
-looks at Angron-
From a very new fan of WH this is how i see primarchs
Sanguinius-class topper
Horus-teacher fav student
Vulan-the good boy/gentle giant
I would love that as a little joke video. All the primarchs in a classroom with the emperor as the teacher.
If Big E didn't take the time to mold Vulkan and make sure he was ready and Vulkan and the Terran legion met each other in the same exact circumstance, Vulkan wouldn't of given the order to hit the attack moon first. His own humanity would of told him to get to the surface as soon as possible to try and stop his Terran sons from taking more casualties, and the 18th probably would of been taken out to the last man (except Vulkan for obvious reasons). So Big E had to teach him some tactics, and mentally prepair him for the hard and smart decisions of war to insure that the reckless suicidal tendencies were rooted out and they could be more effective bulwarks for the common man.
The Emperor had to prepare Vulcan for cooking Aeldari kids
This Aeldari child is RAAAAAAW!
BBQ Eldar , Yum!
Cool it's like BBQing ants or cockroaches the only difference is Aeldari are more annoying.
In one of The Raven Guard Novels, Corax goes to Terra for advice from The Emperor.
If I remember correctly he stumbles across 20 chambers/dungeons that are meant for the Primarchs potentially as prisons or chambers for after the crusade.
Stay with me on this one.
Vulkan was one of the weird Primarch bunch made separately from the others.
Alpha and the Wolves are also in this group.
I believe that they would go on to have special roles.
Wolves = Executioners
Alpha = Secret Legion stuff and Doppleganger twin for safe measure
Salamander = Gatekeepers and Gaolers
Vulkan was perpetual.
What better keeper/guard to keep eye on old Magnus on the Throne??
I seriously believe the Emperor was gonna sideline 75% of the primarchs.
Leman Russ was basically made not to deny him.
Omegon proved that the Alpha Legion could do what ever the other legions could do but better.
And Vulkan and the Salamanders would
Make the perfect "Police"
Force as they truly loved the people
Of the imperium.
Come on!! When the Salamanders are on Noctourne the are not held in a garrison as such, they go back to the villages/towns they are from and help.
He spent time Vulkan as he would
Need him much more than the others
Sorry!!! 😂
Also, the gene seed of the Salamanders and Wolves is extremely mutated specifically which would indicate tampering for a reason.
It ties into the "Made apart from the rest" primarch statement earlier
Dark Angels are the real executioners
Also, Vulkan lives! Stomp stomp.
More Vulk ples
Think the squats would get along with Vulcan? Make rad weapon, very dawi like.
"VULKAN LIVES" Stomp Stomp
Iam Vulkan 👁️🔱
Can you do a video on the internal culture clash in the legions.
I would guess that's video for each major chapter
Salamanders!
Vulkan lives
You don’t need to teach a primarch to kill or to rule but for a primarch who is meant to be the most human, that will take some work. The legion being human wasn’t working and he needed training from the emporer not just to become the same
Maybe the Big-E now as a god will need to connect with Vulcan to regain his humanity or a proportion of it.
good theory
What happened to wolf lord rho
He crossed the Rubicon, he's a primaris now.
Vulkan is favoured of starchild
He was kept on terra because he refused to be a warlord. What use is a warrior who doesn’t make war?
For those of you who know the timeline well: Could the Emperor’s decision to hold him from his sons be based on a problematic and similar experience with one of the two missing primarchs?
Vulkan can never be a lord commander hes too human. I think if he came back he might be killed out of politics like Jesus.
wern't the primarchs supposed to off each other during the heresy? and why would the Emperor want to off a primarch that showed how human they could be, compassion, even mercy. We know how the Emperor treated the Thunder Warriors after Unification of Terra, what makes anyone think he wouldn't have done it with the legions too?
Weren't the Thunder Warrior's genetically unstable and unsuited for for peacetime of any sort? He didn't wipe them out for shits and giggles.
Like...maybe the Night Lords and World Eaters would have had to be put down eventually but, for the most part, the Space Marines didn't have the same problems the Thunder Warriors did.
@@Xero_Kaiser Thunder Warriors were bigger but were genetically flawed and would grow cancerous tumours after a while so the Emperor decide to very quickly improve on the gene seed before the great crusade which led to some genetic flaws still existing with some primarchs legions
My thoughts are the Emp kept him around to make sure he could make the weapons or dead man switch he needed.
The Emp didn't do it to be a father figure everything he does has a goal behind it. Maybe he was experimenting on Vulan to have him act the way he wanted in the future. Remember in The Master of mankind he did that to Angron with the butchers nails with help of Arkham Land.
He said he was trying to remove the nails but who knows but the Emperor.
Um.
He didn’t put the nails in Angron.
He was trying to repair the damage, only to learn he couldn’t remove them without killing Angron.
It sad how angron and vulkan would have prob been great brothers
Could you imagine Vulkan and Angron giving Fulgrim a catastrophic Bro hug...
@@LARGO125 Angron would grab Fulgrim first then Vulkan would walk round the corner. See the hug and run towards him arms open. 'I love you guys'
Vulcan needed a fatherly figure more than the others because he's black.
emperor went to buy milk (stab horus) and didnt return
Oof! You're cutting deep, whitey.
You do good work, but your fluency is oddly bad for someone who reads so much.
Bro you're an absolute moronic imbecile !!! Rho is an absolute beast at narration!!! His voice narratives are sublime as they are superlative!!! Also, " fluidity " would have been proper context rather than " fluency " SMH bro . 🤦
Vulkan lives