@@mythmage8231 I firmly believe that Thresh has a hidden passive that locks the lantern from being clicked by allies randomly at a 95% chance, it´s not that they´re not clicking, it´s just tough luck xD. (Not even gonna mention the ones that literally flash to your side while the lantern was by their side lol.)
I somehow didn't know about the 2 seconds cd refund if you hit a target. But after all I didn't check the wiki and only read the ability's description in-game (turns out it is written in the ability's description and I'm just stupid). After watching this incredibly amazing summary of why I can't play AP Thresh (the answer is that Death Sentence is SKILLshot) I no longer have to check the wiki to learn about such (not) hidden mechanic. Thanks Cryo.
A nitpick, but you should know that it reduces cooldown on hit from the in game description alone. It says it after the part that you can recast it; you dont even need to click shift to know that. Edit: If it turns out you play in a language where that part of the description is not present cause of the translation, i am sorry. Tbh this comment is a bit rude, but its just that part is not hidden at all.
@@stanisawzegnaek4923 Shit. I play in English and I somehow never read the ability fully (I guess). But alright, mb then. I'll go check to see my mistake for myself. Edit : You're right. I just checked and yup, it even hes it's own line in the ability description. I guess turns out I'm just a bit dumb. (Or maybe I just thought I had already read his entire kit and thus didn't read his abilities afterwards, or something.) But anyway thanks for pointing it out.
Now you did not talk about the most paranormal fact, the inexplicable desire of Thresh mains to walk back after hitting a hook (and then dash saying *weeeeeee*)
When I first started league, I was told clicking away when you're hooked by thresh decreased the amount of times he can tug you closer and the stun duration, lol.
BABE WAKE UP Cryo posted another straight BANGER of a thresh video, PLEASE DO THE WHOLE KIT IN THIS FORMAT (I'm sure you probably intend to, or at least have something in mind
I few weeks ago I was bored while using ChatGPT and started generating a 4 hours script for a video that explained "flash+q+r(+ optional ignite)" Garen combo. Now I get this video in my recommended, glad that someone is doing something along the lines of that stupid random idea I had xD
Hi man; you inspired me yesterday to play sheesh ton of thresh games and holy i have alot of clips that i made total masacre in that i want to show to you Haha
As a very old Thresh/Support main This does put a smile on my face Everytime i hit a Hook with a decent ADC, its almost always a guaranteed kill, and it's always a guilty pleasure Laughing maniacally while you box in an enchanter or ADC and flay their teammates away while they get mauled by my whole team
I might be being baited here but I was curious so I tested it. From equal distance (roughly just within Flay distance), both a standard Q and a Q with immediate E forwards from hook launch to connecting with the target were both 10 frames (1.64 seconds). Trying again at point blank and both were 2 frames (0.033 seconds). Also tried about max distance and both results were the same (30 frames, 0.5s) from hook launch to impact. It was 61 frames for both from ability cast to impact. If there's something I'm missing, please let me know.
@@CryoBeat I swear this always used to be a thing back when I was playing a lot of Thresh, but you made me go into the Practice Tool to see for myself and you are right you can't speed up Q with E anymore. Now I am so unsure if my memories are just broken or they "fixed" the mechanic.
you forgot to mention that, IN the hook combo sessiion: you can do better use in close range if you let to use the death setence after flaying the enemy into you r ult, that gives A LOT os slow, and will garantee that hook.
Hey man, that was an amazing video but I noticed you didn't mention a special mechanic Thresh's Q has. If you use Q and then spam your E at the same direction you actually make his hook travel faster. I used to use that trick a lot when i mained Thresh in season 4 to catch targets off guard, it is not very useful but almost nobody knows about this trick, so they do not expect the fast hook in critical stages of the game.
This really shows how I was born to be a thresh main, I started playing league and thresh was one of the first champions I’ve ever played. I like his play style so much, that I started experimenting with everything and eventually landed on your videos over explaining thresh, watching it I never realised how much I already understood about thresh
One thing that always disturbed me about Thresh one tricks no matter the elo is that they are monsters of prediction when using their q. Exact same from Gold to Challenger. It's unnatural...
I might've missed it in the vid, but you can speed up Thresh's Q if you cast his E right as the hook is flying. It's comparable to a Blitz hook. Almost never useful though
I was getting so confused when you were saying "rank" when refering to the level of the ability. I havent payed the game in like 2 years and I thought the rank of the ability was something else new lol
Back when i used to play thresh my go to was to e the enemy into a second wall of my ult, assuming he walk into the first one or got hook into it. Sometimes you can walk then to the corner and hit 2 but i never tested to see if that is a dps boost, i'm too casual
Thresh is honestly one of the most versatile champions in league. You can use him sup, no problem, but are you feeling a bit wild? Use him top with a tank build. Want to go adc? use a crit attack speed build and obliterate enemies. Want to become a nuke? do a full ap build.
I know ur a thresh main but could you overexplain Urgots spells, I main urgot adc and thresh is the best supp for urgot adc. So would it be possible to overexplain his kit starting with Q the most complex of his spells
does the pull range change if you walk away while pulling??? can you walk towards tower to pull them closer to tower than would've been pulled otherwise?
How did you put items on the target dummy? Ive been looking all around to find out how you did it and there's absolutely no resources on the web explaining this
In my opinion, "Death Sentence" is high risk high reward skill while "Flay" is the exact opposite of that. Pls make another video about "Flay" and compare it to the former
If Lyandris just does a bit less damage, would it be a "good idea" to build him as a AP Bruiser? He could survive after he landed his combo to ensure another rotation of the cc and having somewhat decent damage doesn't he? Or there is something I am missing?
I guess the main argument is "others do it better" (WAY better, see: Swain. Morde, etc). But vs full ap, others also do that better, too. I think bruiser is just fine with RoA, Riftmaker, Nashors kinda angle. Not sure if it's better than an AD bruiser, but at this point someone considering this has renounced playing optimally anyway (support), so build ap if you prefer weighty abilities, and AD if you prefer slaps.
you taking me back af, i miss the game before the dogshit "tankiness items" rework where it basically killed everyone from tanking besides the tanks themselves or you doing half of your build be armor.... i LOVED doing thresh toplane and taric before the rework it was absurd how much you could get away with and people were PISSED they lost to a support LMAO.
I now know how to Death Sentence.
You watched a 12:54 video very quickly thank you Kero
rare keroppi
wait KJ?! It's me Justin LOL
@@hendo2001 Fancy meeting you here :p
keroppi jumpscare
I can’t wait for Overexplaining Thresh’s W - “Dark Passage”
Simple: it's used for collecting souls or as a last-ditch effort to stay alive, because your teammates are allergic to it.
@@mythmage8231 I firmly believe that Thresh has a hidden passive that locks the lantern from being clicked by allies randomly at a 95% chance, it´s not that they´re not clicking, it´s just tough luck xD. (Not even gonna mention the ones that literally flash to your side while the lantern was by their side lol.)
Good news
@@brunoboldt6336 or grabbing it at the absolute worst time like akali e
This is the same BGM SpiritOfTheLaw uses to explain Age of Empires civilizations and hearing it here explaining Thresh's Q was really funny
Had me expecting a mathematical optimization chart
11:16 love the citations for canonized AP thresh in the subtitles
I somehow didn't know about the 2 seconds cd refund if you hit a target. But after all I didn't check the wiki and only read the ability's description in-game (turns out it is written in the ability's description and I'm just stupid). After watching this incredibly amazing summary of why I can't play AP Thresh (the answer is that Death Sentence is SKILLshot) I no longer have to check the wiki to learn about such (not) hidden mechanic.
Thanks Cryo.
A nitpick, but you should know that it reduces cooldown on hit from the in game description alone. It says it after the part that you can recast it; you dont even need to click shift to know that.
Edit: If it turns out you play in a language where that part of the description is not present cause of the translation, i am sorry. Tbh this comment is a bit rude, but its just that part is not hidden at all.
@@stanisawzegnaek4923 Shit. I play in English and I somehow never read the ability fully (I guess). But alright, mb then. I'll go check to see my mistake for myself.
Edit : You're right. I just checked and yup, it even hes it's own line in the ability description. I guess turns out I'm just a bit dumb. (Or maybe I just thought I had already read his entire kit and thus didn't read his abilities afterwards, or something.) But anyway thanks for pointing it out.
Bros really yap about thresh's Q for 13mins
And yet strangely i respect him for it
I’d listen to him yap again
Whatever it takes to monetize the video
Still can't get over the fact that his ultimate is just called "The Box"...
hi hi
"BOX" but has 5 sides xd
Hi hi
eee err
Now playing: The Box
This gotta be my favorite vid of yours now, this format is done a lot but it is really fun. Would def watch more on other abilities/ champs!
Thank you for being the only youtuber who gives me content about my favourite character that doesn't have to do with his Lore.
I can tell this was done with passion, not easy to find good and original league content nowadays. Thak you
Didn't know that casting his q slowed Thresh, good info man, love the content as a Thresh main
Man I wish there was more content like this for other champions as well.
Banger Video
Now you did not talk about the most paranormal fact, the inexplicable desire of Thresh mains to walk back after hitting a hook (and then dash saying *weeeeeee*)
When I first started league, I was told clicking away when you're hooked by thresh decreased the amount of times he can tug you closer and the stun duration, lol.
The best 13 minutes of my life I've ever spent as a Thresh main. Thank you for never disappointing Cryo.
As a Thresh Main, I always appreciate a good hook. Great Video!
BABE WAKE UP Cryo posted another straight BANGER of a thresh video, PLEASE DO THE WHOLE KIT IN THIS FORMAT (I'm sure you probably intend to, or at least have something in mind
Great video Cryo!
I few weeks ago I was bored while using ChatGPT and started generating a 4 hours script for a video that explained "flash+q+r(+ optional ignite)" Garen combo.
Now I get this video in my recommended, glad that someone is doing something along the lines of that stupid random idea I had xD
Wow, I never realized that during the Q animation you can see Thresh pulling the hook with both his hands. Props to the animators!
I just discovered this channel and you made me want to main Thresh and coinflip every ranked games.
Also the name Mizuki5 scares and scars me.
woah prosekai bgm, didn't expect that here
Didn't know there was a delay between recast on champs. Today I learn
Ambessa now exists with 4 dashes and thresh still self slows.
Shocked nobody in the replies took the obvious bait of referring to this video as a "Death Paragraph"
Hi man; you inspired me yesterday to play sheesh ton of thresh games and holy i have alot of clips that i made total masacre in that i want to show to you Haha
As a very old Thresh/Support main
This does put a smile on my face
Everytime i hit a Hook with a decent ADC, its almost always a guaranteed kill, and it's always a guilty pleasure Laughing maniacally while you box in an enchanter or ADC and flay their teammates away while they get mauled by my whole team
i love that thumbnail so much. so cute
one important thing sis missing. You can pull enemies close to your team if you hook and walk backwards.
I can't believe you didn't cover being able to throw out the hitbox twice as fast if you Q and immediately E forward afterwards.
I might be being baited here but I was curious so I tested it.
From equal distance (roughly just within Flay distance), both a standard Q and a Q with immediate E forwards from hook launch to connecting with the target were both 10 frames (1.64 seconds). Trying again at point blank and both were 2 frames (0.033 seconds).
Also tried about max distance and both results were the same (30 frames, 0.5s) from hook launch to impact. It was 61 frames for both from ability cast to impact.
If there's something I'm missing, please let me know.
@@CryoBeat I swear this always used to be a thing back when I was playing a lot of Thresh, but you made me go into the Practice Tool to see for myself and you are right you can't speed up Q with E anymore.
Now I am so unsure if my memories are just broken or they "fixed" the mechanic.
regarding the movement speed debuff there are soft and hard caps on movespeed in league so that's where the weird numbers come from.
you forgot to mention that, IN the hook combo sessiion: you can do better use in close range if you let to use the death setence after flaying the enemy into you r ult, that gives A LOT os slow, and will garantee that hook.
I KNEW I WASN'T GOING CRAZY!
IT WAS DEATH SENTENCE AND THEY CHANGED IT
"You can dodge your own skill shot" yea I gotta be honest that made me laugh harder than it should have
Hey man, that was an amazing video but I noticed you didn't mention a special mechanic Thresh's Q has. If you use Q and then spam your E at the same direction you actually make his hook travel faster. I used to use that trick a lot when i mained Thresh in season 4 to catch targets off guard, it is not very useful but almost nobody knows about this trick, so they do not expect the fast hook in critical stages of the game.
this is the level of character analysis I expect from a one trick
I wish either death sentence's cast time was reduced by half, or range doubled for it to be properly balanced in this day and age
This really shows how I was born to be a thresh main, I started playing league and thresh was one of the first champions I’ve ever played. I like his play style so much, that I started experimenting with everything and eventually landed on your videos over explaining thresh, watching it I never realised how much I already understood about thresh
Same for me, the best thresh i found is thresh guardian. The lamp is one of the greatest skills imo.
11:50 vivid bad squad sekai theme detected 🔥🔥🔥
That juat frame kazuya reference was so out of pocket I was not ready
One thing that always disturbed me about Thresh one tricks no matter the elo is that they are monsters of prediction when using their q. Exact same from Gold to Challenger. It's unnatural...
"veigar at home" GOT ME SO GOOD HAHAHAHAHA
Nothing like landing a skill shot and hearing maniacal laughter
Idk if the experience is shared but when you're zoning a lot of people mistake the mid range auto animation for the hook windup.
I have never seen a 12min video just for Thresh's Q
Edit: okay that's actually fun
I might've missed it in the vid, but you can speed up Thresh's Q if you cast his E right as the hook is flying. It's comparable to a Blitz hook. Almost never useful though
90% AP? wow guy really clickbaited saying 260%AP.... how sad.
not a thresh player, or support for that matter, but this is a brilliant video!
Where's the 260% from the thumbnail?
you have explained how to death sentence. but can you explain why death sentence?
I was getting so confused when you were saying "rank" when refering to the level of the ability. I havent payed the game in like 2 years and I thought the rank of the ability was something else new lol
idk if this is true, but a friend told me that if u use Q+E at the same time, u cancel the q animation and goes a little bit faster
today i learned: i should buy 6 zeals on my next thresh game to minimise my movement speed loss and provide better chase with my team
Back when i used to play thresh my go to was to e the enemy into a second wall of my ult, assuming he walk into the first one or got hook into it.
Sometimes you can walk then to the corner and hit 2 but i never tested to see if that is a dps boost, i'm too casual
This reminds me of how I talk about Briar
Thresh is honestly one of the most versatile champions in league. You can use him sup, no problem, but are you feeling a bit wild? Use him top with a tank build. Want to go adc? use a crit attack speed build and obliterate enemies. Want to become a nuke? do a full ap build.
Hello mr cryo, please over explain flay because I can’t aim it for shit sometimes. Very good video❤
I mean same I can't aim it either but I'll try
i would kill for one of this but for other important abilities like pyke's q or leona's E
You also get the death sentence from yr adc if you misses yours
I know ur a thresh main but could you overexplain Urgots spells, I main urgot adc and thresh is the best supp for urgot adc.
So would it be possible to overexplain his kit starting with Q the most complex of his spells
"Mizuki5" to impose trauma on your opponents
my gut tells me this guy knows a bit about thresh
Blitz: Now i have become death the destroyer of bronzes
Wonderhoy indeed
0:46 Pyke.
u made me optimistic abt going back to play thresh as its my doomed main XD (no one follows :'( )
Id like if you could make a video explaining why Pro's don't play Thresh as much anymore. I mean I didn't even see it in Worlds 2024
does the pull range change if you walk away while pulling??? can you walk towards tower to pull them closer to tower than would've been pulled otherwise?
PRSK music was noticed! Also, playing LoL in Japanese is based
We got a passive video, a Q video, next is W I GUESS?
How did you put items on the target dummy? Ive been looking all around to find out how you did it and there's absolutely no resources on the web explaining this
why does this feels like a tf2 soldier build video?
2:14
If he was a modern champ, he would have a ghosting or bonus effect.
In my opinion, "Death Sentence" is high risk high reward skill while "Flay" is the exact opposite of that. Pls make another video about "Flay" and compare it to the former
Tf is that? Janitor Thresh? Custodian Thresh? Sanitation engineer Thresh?
That was a really good clickbait thumbnail :)
When the death is sentenced or something idk I only read the manga
As someone plays almost exclusively Thresh on non-support roles, Q is massively overrated (in solo fights) while E is massively underappreciated.
I don't even play thresh why did I watched this entirely
If Lyandris just does a bit less damage, would it be a "good idea" to build him as a AP Bruiser? He could survive after he landed his combo to ensure another rotation of the cc and having somewhat decent damage doesn't he? Or there is something I am missing?
I guess the main argument is "others do it better" (WAY better, see: Swain. Morde, etc). But vs full ap, others also do that better, too.
I think bruiser is just fine with RoA, Riftmaker, Nashors kinda angle. Not sure if it's better than an AD bruiser, but at this point someone considering this has renounced playing optimally anyway (support), so build ap if you prefer weighty abilities, and AD if you prefer slaps.
you watch Spirit of the Law don't you
Mooom the youtuber said my name!! :O
that brand dance tho
7:25
Thresh's E has 70% AP ratio, not 60%.
2:10 I love how he used the analogy "Just like landing an electric wind godfist in tekken" since I'm a Tekken player XD
Wait wait wait, 90 percent? Im a s10 retiree so that is an insane number to me.
Me accidentally killing 20 people a game with my empowered autos as a support
spirit of the wild aoe2 music ?
7:26
90 + 100 + 60 = 250. ??
The video was very choppy and hard to watch, but maybe my smartphone is broken.
13 min of explaining how one champion ability works. Game does not explain any of that. What a great game.
Everything in this video is learned from the game. It's not like you need to datamine any of this.
At first I thought why the fuck was this so overexplained. Then I read the video title.
you taking me back af, i miss the game before the dogshit "tankiness items" rework where it basically killed everyone from tanking besides the tanks themselves or you doing half of your build be armor....
i LOVED doing thresh toplane and taric before the rework it was absurd how much you could get away with and people were PISSED they lost to a support LMAO.
yooooo, niceeeeeee, thankkkssss
The EWGF yapping was nonsense but good video.
is that heavy team fart 2?
Me: Nah I wanna know about the e ad ratios.
try it with lichs bane
I AM heavy weapons guy and this is my weapon
waiting for urf or Nexus Blitz or Arena so I can Ooga Booga Thresh more