@@arigatameiwaku It's a computer language. Just like in coding where print("Hello world") might = hello world in latex something like sqrt will show √, but bigger and more accurate
"People will buy grevious wounds and shieldbreaker" Grevious wounds, yes. Shieldbreaker, nah, hardly anyone ever buys serpents fang even when theres a ton of shields in the game.
i think the problem is most people cant build it. its basically useless for a ranged champ to build it. AP and tanks cant really build it. most top laners dont need it or would probably prefer grievous wounds. obviously this is all very game dependent. but its just an extra item slot used up buy a pretty lack luster stat item. most of the shields top laners have can be played around anyway (very broad and over simplifying i know). i see it getting most of its value vs enchanters. it should just be reworked into another grievous item. have it cost 2900-3200 gold and give it the 40% grievous
Some friends are still terrified whenever I pick Tahm Kench, because I concocted a redemption build. Which makes it so I end up healing from taking damage and never back. Pretty good as a support. Also the R shield always gets a "HUH" from them :)
Hell yeah! Off meta builds are the best :D Although, if you're going in ranked with this build, even though yes it is bad, and yes people will build grievous wounds, i don't think you're ever gonna see a Serpent's Fang. Let's be serious here, i'm probably one of 3 wiki scrubbers in Platinum elo who even know that morde's heal is based off of the shield value. It's like how Blue kayn's passive re-deals a percentage of his damage as magic damage, or how Warwick's Q makes him displacement immune; Pure details that, while being extremely important, are simply not part of a majority of LoL players' knowledge. They see morde go +1000 health in green text, they build thornmail (even though they could've just built the 800g component), and the funny 2500g hyper-efficient item that completely cancels the build doesn't even cross their mind, even if your team also has a lulu and 2 Seraph's Embrace users.
Just when I uninstalled League for the nth time because Riot thinks I should be in loser's queue, this absolute banger of a video drops and now I'm itching to play the Lord of Brazil Thanks, Hylo. Very cool.
The most fun I've had with such a build has been in the first arena LTM where you could get an augment that damaged a nearby enemy for all the healing and shielding you do. Not only would his W heal him to full, but his W would divine smite a nearby enemy into oblivion.
Back when moonstone was a thing, I was dared to do moonstone swain and ended up optimizing the build to a very fun extent, so I'll probably have to revisit that now.
how is this channel not seen more? btw love the text font from veritasium, looks so good. video content and analysis are outrageously underrated for a 7k view video
I was just thinking about this before I came across the video. I didn't know how to calculate everything out and I didn't know if I wanted to test it out in the practice tool or try to read more about it. Thank you!
AP Master Yi was not an off-meta build. It was THE build. It was not "nerfed to make sure people aren't playing the wrong way", it was removed because it was BROKEN, and that iteration of Yi's kit was extremely unhealthy.
Abused it during patch day/before patch hour. Nowadays you can only find such craziness in undiscovered OP builds and *new* champs. So boring now unless you just smurf.
when I first hear it, I thought it was around season 5? when it had Devourer as a jungle item. Back then It was a AP Yi build because Devourer was so OP and Yi can build anything after it. so I think maybe he referred to THAT AP Yi (just maybe) ps. at that time, I personally find Devourer + rageblade + nashor's tooth + deathcap + zhonya + spirit visage the most fun since it still do dmg and a sht ton of healing from W xD good memories.
@@WInNKuAP yi was season 3-4 due to an item called deathfire grasp amplifying all his damage dealt to you by 15%, and if he killed someone his q reset completely allowing his 1.5 AP ratio q to explode an entire teamfight
The thoroughness of your analysis and the unadorned delivery of the facts earned you my respect and I'd like to express that with a subscription. Here you go.
I tested this build in a normals draft against at platinum mmr against a GP and it worked. This is actually insane. I didn't even have revitalize and by the end I was healing half my HP bar with every 5 second W
People are sleeping on Unending Despair paired with these items. It heals for 250% of the damage dealt per enemy hit by the effect every 5 sec. This means inside of the entire enemy team you can get 5 individual heals worth 250% of the damage dealt, modified further by heal %.
been saying this since dawncore got reworked that nashor's>riftmaker>dawncore>sv>rageblade actually works on mordekaiser (just be sure to use W as a shield since the heal is closer to even but still less than the full shield) doesn't even work as good vs usual targets but it has 2 advantages: 1. you can ult the tanks, while for normal build it's considered a losing scenario (you're meant to ult a squishy target and burst them). This means some really unfortunate backline counterpicking like QSS Sivir + Yuumi + Zhonya's Lissandra won't have as strong of an effect. And autos don't miss if the enemy dashes out of your Qs. 2. because you can pressure every enemy including the tanks, you just have to able to win any 1v1 (take exhaust so you can fight the burst champions) and eventually everyone will have to build GW + defensive items. Normal Mordekaiser HAS to splitpush, and at best gets 2-3 of the enemy team to build Zhonya's/QSS. But with this build cycling through all 5 enemies in teamfights makes all 5 of them build against you. Don't pick into an ally team with super high healing and single target CC. Like a WW jg on your team will halve your contribution
I think the more playable {well rounded} version of this build is early riftmaker w/ shield bash or early rylais with font of life (since that heals you solo now). Ditch the mikaels, ardent sensor, and staff of flowing water, and leave the last 2 slots for situational items, often whichever suggested early item you didn't pick, morello, liandrys, cryptbloom, or echos of helia as a spicy late item [much better with font of life + rylais, and it does make side laning nearly impossible in the late game against most split pushing champs].
I like mordekaiser, I've only mained 3 or so champs in my lifetime, mordekaiser still my main, ever since I ditched senna and took home mordekaiser life been good
This build excells at one thing: Tilting the enemy. Imagine you're about to kill this mordekaiser and the mf just heals 3000 hp in one button That's the mundo equivalent of a middle finger
Silly morde builds are the best in league. i used to run a nashors ttoth into iceborne gauntlet build back before it was sheen. whole idea was if you pick a champ to outplay my abilities, i just wont use them. 60% per auto plus damage and slow and tank stats, have fun
in practice i honestly had alot more succes with grasp then conq. more healing and dmg. this morde build has drawn out fights and alot of times you get 2-3 graps procs each skirmish or fight. second wind also adds an insane amount of healing to the build and i like it alot more over the little armor, mr you get from the other perk. amazing video tho.
Ngl I always enjoy in-depth crazy calculations video, but this is like.... bro, just give me the build showcase it and thank you ( I still really like the video)
If you truly want to max out amount healed and not just how full your hp bar is, you should take Hearthsteel, since it's potentially infinite hp, and therefore, you will heal even more based on your health.
Heal shield powers so fun on morde, Idk ifit actually does but I think it buffs both the shield and the heal so whenever I get chemtech drake I'm like nice very effiecent
>Special thanks to 'fix triumph' I assume that's in reference to it still taking like 4 seconds to actually heal you despite being a rune for like 7 years? (According to the wiki its birthday was actually the 5th. November 5th, 2017. :D ) "Intended" most likely, but I'd argue it's probably some kind of bug they just refuse to (or can't) fix. Because, y'know, spaghetti code a mile long. Also, there's some effects, like Fizz's E or Lissandra's R, that cause it to "pop" and not affect you at all. Because that's fun. Also, the wiki says it is a 'projectile with a fixed travel time of 1 second', but I'm calling major BS on that because I have had it take way more than that to even show up, let alone make it to me AND heal me. But Warwick has also had a bug where his Q heals him after he is already dead (love being gray screen with over 600 health on my hud) for EVER. Despite this game being worth billions of dollars a year, Riot has failed to fix many of the most glaring issues in some champions' kits simply because they are not 'pro play viable' as if that doesn't exclude 99.999% of the player base.
do 1 video for hecarim you get conQ + shieldbash revitalize and for build you go eclipse into serylda into winteraproche (if you get this 3 items with W Q you will heal 400 500 and deal a lot of dmg) then you go spirit visage into sterak for boots swifftnes for ms to chase down
I think dawncore is a valid 3rd item in his normal build. Item alone gives 18% healing and shielding power (with it's passive) and 45 ap which is decent.
The passive doesn't work on Mordekaiser, so you only get 16% HS power. I do like going dawncore early, but it doesn't give more HS power than its components.
volibear with downcore+fimbulwinter and shieldbash is even stronger, heartsteel on top of that is great too, especially shield bash numbers are crazy with this build, i managed once to get over 10k dmg from it, and at least 5k every game
I really hate the fact that Riot seems to be against playing characters "incorrectly" but still allow you access to just about every item all characters can use. Yes excuse me, I'll take 5 warmogs that stack and a Hydra plz.
I got autofilled toplane, played mordekaiser, enemy was an wukong, I was shitting hard on him, he bought serpent's, gg, game ruined, he obliterated me to hell.
pov you wanted to be a mathmetician but league ruined ur life
He even wrote in LaTeX 💀
@@pierreluttmann4392i didn’t notice, wth man 😭
@@pierreluttmann4392 what?
@@arigatameiwaku proper tool for typesetting equations and writing scientific papers.
@@arigatameiwaku It's a computer language. Just like in coding where print("Hello world") might = hello world in latex something like sqrt will show √, but bigger and more accurate
"People will buy grevious wounds and shieldbreaker"
Grevious wounds, yes.
Shieldbreaker, nah, hardly anyone ever buys serpents fang even when theres a ton of shields in the game.
Some don't even know it exists
Full heal yummi mord is pretty strong if he doesn't ult cuz 2 mega shields and constant healing under mordekeisers shield
Maybe in low elo, but Serpent's Fang is used quite a bit in high elo.
i think the problem is most people cant build it. its basically useless for a ranged champ to build it. AP and tanks cant really build it. most top laners dont need it or would probably prefer grievous wounds. obviously this is all very game dependent. but its just an extra item slot used up buy a pretty lack luster stat item. most of the shields top laners have can be played around anyway (very broad and over simplifying i know). i see it getting most of its value vs enchanters.
it should just be reworked into another grievous item. have it cost 2900-3200 gold and give it the 40% grievous
@@louisrobitaille5810 whats high elo then, cus i regularly get faced with diamonds and masters and so far pretty much no one buys serpents
Babe wake up! mathematically "wrong" Morderkaiser build just dropped!!
close enough, welcome back deep league.
FINALLY
Altars of Apostasy WE MAKING IT OUT OF HERESY WITH THIS ONE 🗣🔥🔥🔥
Fr fr fr
was NOT expecting an ultrakill song in this video
An armored core and ultrakill fan ? Nice 🐐
@@rodrixgaming2527 SOMEONE FINALLY RECOGNISED MY PFP LETS GO
@@rodrixgaming2527 Wow you're like one of three people to recognise where my pfp is from, nice!
10/10 build. Had fun not killing cannons, getting one hit during team fights and most of all, getting flamed. Highly recommend to not try.
Some friends are still terrified whenever I pick Tahm Kench, because I concocted a redemption build. Which makes it so I end up healing from taking damage and never back. Pretty good as a support. Also the R shield always gets a "HUH" from them :)
TK with danwcore redemption Unending despair spirit visage and riftmaker with revitalize and second wind heal inside and outside of combat true fun.
@@marlonbrenowthegameplayhighelo or you could just buy... warmogs?
@@noiseisgold3n42 but that wouldnt be as fun
I used to play goredrinker Tham with moonstone. it was great
@@noiseisgold3n42 Warmog dont heal in combat. Also dont give cdr or mana regen.
just won my master's promo with this build thanks mate
You're going to Turbo Hell
Hell yeah! Off meta builds are the best :D
Although, if you're going in ranked with this build, even though yes it is bad, and yes people will build grievous wounds, i don't think you're ever gonna see a Serpent's Fang.
Let's be serious here, i'm probably one of 3 wiki scrubbers in Platinum elo who even know that morde's heal is based off of the shield value. It's like how Blue kayn's passive re-deals a percentage of his damage as magic damage, or how Warwick's Q makes him displacement immune; Pure details that, while being extremely important, are simply not part of a majority of LoL players' knowledge. They see morde go +1000 health in green text, they build thornmail (even though they could've just built the 800g component), and the funny 2500g hyper-efficient item that completely cancels the build doesn't even cross their mind, even if your team also has a lulu and 2 Seraph's Embrace users.
50% shield eraser does wonders to this build(if anyone fucking read)
You'd be surprised how many people remember it exists when you pop a 3000 hp shield
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ohh I found my heaven
I miss Moonstone Morde, Kayle, and Malzahar meme builds...
Just when I uninstalled League for the nth time because Riot thinks I should be in loser's queue, this absolute banger of a video drops and now I'm itching to play the Lord of Brazil
Thanks, Hylo. Very cool.
The most fun I've had with such a build has been in the first arena LTM where you could get an augment that damaged a nearby enemy for all the healing and shielding you do. Not only would his W heal him to full, but his W would divine smite a nearby enemy into oblivion.
Back when moonstone was a thing, I was dared to do moonstone swain and ended up optimizing the build to a very fun extent, so I'll probably have to revisit that now.
I rarely comment on videos, but yours editing is a masterpiece!!! So neat, keep it up!
Love the videos man, i find it so fascinating hearing you talk about the math of league. Much love!
It was an excellent video, I hope you keep doing this kind of mathematical off-meta builds
I just found your channel. All I can say is “Wow”. I love all the math and analysis behind these! Instant subscribe.
Great work, I hope you blow up
This is absurdly ominous without any context LMAO
@@jaredbrooks1651 lmaooo
o_o
he is from the middle east? damn.
how is this channel not seen more? btw love the text font from veritasium, looks so good. video content and analysis are outrageously underrated for a 7k view video
nobody wants to watch content from a gold peak league player
@@lilpullout nobody wants to hear iron peak league players yap about it either, lil bro
"erm ackshually im plat peak" ☝️🤓
Great video and quite in depth to be honest, build diversity is always interesting
noticed the danganronpa bgm! i see your a man of culture aa well bro
was looking for a fun time and got jumpscared by math
I was just thinking about this before I came across the video. I didn't know how to calculate everything out and I didn't know if I wanted to test it out in the practice tool or try to read more about it. Thank you!
I really like how you made this video and broke it down with equations. Right on!
AP Master Yi was not an off-meta build. It was THE build. It was not "nerfed to make sure people aren't playing the wrong way", it was removed because it was BROKEN, and that iteration of Yi's kit was extremely unhealthy.
Abused it during patch day/before patch hour.
Nowadays you can only find such craziness in undiscovered OP builds and *new* champs. So boring now unless you just smurf.
when I first hear it, I thought it was around season 5? when it had Devourer as a jungle item. Back then It was a AP Yi build because Devourer was so OP and Yi can build anything after it.
so I think maybe he referred to THAT AP Yi (just maybe)
ps. at that time, I personally find Devourer + rageblade + nashor's tooth + deathcap + zhonya + spirit visage the most fun since it still do dmg and a sht ton of healing from W xD good memories.
@@WInNKuAP yi was season 3-4 due to an item called deathfire grasp amplifying all his damage dealt to you by 15%, and if he killed someone his q reset completely allowing his 1.5 AP ratio q to explode an entire teamfight
The thoroughness of your analysis and the unadorned delivery of the facts earned you my respect and I'd like to express that with a subscription. Here you go.
the thumbnail is pretty funny considering there is a senator armstrong sett custom skin
what a quality video man, thumbs up
dude your videos are so high quality. i hope you get the attention you deserve
YOU CAN T KILL ME SETT!
Ctrl+Z Mordekaiser is and will always be one of my favorite builds
AJajaSJSJ That is a good name
Swap boots for Riftmaker, the added damage and vampirism will make you truly invincible.
I like how I literally started using those exact same items and almost exactly the same runes when Dawncore was released.
Im naming this build "Twink Ironclad".
I greatly appreciate the professional notation
i love u for making the calculations
this video teach me more about math than anything my professor yapping about
Born to be a scientist, forced to be a gamer. Society
after the last vid you imspired me to make a maxed dawncore karma build since it works so well with E/RE and RW but this is a lot funnier
Never been more thankful to my algebra teacher
Better than my math teacher, now I really listen to my lessons
This is why serpents fang will always be my first item as an assassin in this meta.
Awesome math and music man🔥🔥
Yeah, rell absolutely kills this build 8:45
lore accurate.
i mean, rell's q has 0.4s cast time, you would need to react extremely quickly to break the shield before morde can recast
@@iab3569 you hold the shield for like a second or two though, so you don't get bursted
renek is actually worse, empowered w insantly kills it
@@thatoneguywhosaysbyethenwa1720 you can literally reactively recast once you see rells q animation
since you have no mana, you dont get the dawncore passive, because your mana regen is locked at 0% (which is stupid asf btw)
;-; yeh, tried it out in usb and didn't get any of the base mana increase
oohhh i was about to say! morde has no mana but he can get mana regen anyway right?? but i guess not lol
I tested this build in a normals draft against at platinum mmr against a GP and it worked. This is actually insane. I didn't even have revitalize and by the end I was healing half my HP bar with every 5 second W
Wait, the wiki ported out of Fandom? Thats great
People are sleeping on Unending Despair paired with these items. It heals for 250% of the damage dealt per enemy hit by the effect every 5 sec. This means inside of the entire enemy team you can get 5 individual heals worth 250% of the damage dealt, modified further by heal %.
Damn, would you look at that, math.
came to see mordekaiser build
stayed for the math
been saying this since dawncore got reworked that nashor's>riftmaker>dawncore>sv>rageblade actually works on mordekaiser
(just be sure to use W as a shield since the heal is closer to even but still less than the full shield)
doesn't even work as good vs usual targets but it has 2 advantages:
1. you can ult the tanks, while for normal build it's considered a losing scenario (you're meant to ult a squishy target and burst them). This means some really unfortunate backline counterpicking like QSS Sivir + Yuumi + Zhonya's Lissandra won't have as strong of an effect. And autos don't miss if the enemy dashes out of your Qs.
2. because you can pressure every enemy including the tanks, you just have to able to win any 1v1 (take exhaust so you can fight the burst champions) and eventually everyone will have to build GW + defensive items. Normal Mordekaiser HAS to splitpush, and at best gets 2-3 of the enemy team to build Zhonya's/QSS. But with this build cycling through all 5 enemies in teamfights makes all 5 of them build against you.
Don't pick into an ally team with super high healing and single target CC. Like a WW jg on your team will halve your contribution
This is one of the builds of all time
Yet another reason why I fear mathematicians.
Awesome dawncore guide bro!
It makes sense it would buff shield first and then heal after, it would make no sense if it didnt.
I wanna see a comp full of healing enchanters and a Mord running this build.
Got scared when I saw goodbye fandom ;-;
Thought you were going to be done making videos.
its just as simple as taking ignite intead of buying a full item for grievous wounds
The Dark Paladin shall rise once more
i miss old moonstone so much
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I think the more playable {well rounded} version of this build is early riftmaker w/ shield bash or early rylais with font of life (since that heals you solo now). Ditch the mikaels, ardent sensor, and staff of flowing water, and leave the last 2 slots for situational items, often whichever suggested early item you didn't pick, morello, liandrys, cryptbloom, or echos of helia as a spicy late item [much better with font of life + rylais, and it does make side laning nearly impossible in the late game against most split pushing champs].
I like mordekaiser, I've only mained 3 or so champs in my lifetime, mordekaiser still my main, ever since I ditched senna and took home mordekaiser life been good
This build excells at one thing: Tilting the enemy.
Imagine you're about to kill this mordekaiser and the mf just heals 3000 hp in one button
That's the mundo equivalent of a middle finger
love the MGRR reference 😂
Is that a fucking ULTRAKILL SOUNDTRACK!
Silly morde builds are the best in league. i used to run a nashors ttoth into iceborne gauntlet build back before it was sheen. whole idea was if you pick a champ to outplay my abilities, i just wont use them. 60% per auto plus damage and slow and tank stats, have fun
Yeah, turbo hell for you buddy
Rather than healing more...just take less damage...
someone gonna be mad af this Friday night flex queue
I disliked the video to bump it down so Riot doesn't fix it
in practice i honestly had alot more succes with grasp then conq. more healing and dmg. this morde build has drawn out fights and alot of times you get 2-3 graps procs each skirmish or fight. second wind also adds an insane amount of healing to the build and i like it alot more over the little armor, mr you get from the other perk. amazing video tho.
This is the way math are actually fun.
new way to play mordekaiser wow
Ngl I always enjoy in-depth crazy calculations video, but this is like.... bro, just give me the build showcase it and thank you ( I still really like the video)
If you truly want to max out amount healed and not just how full your hp bar is, you should take Hearthsteel, since it's potentially infinite hp, and therefore, you will heal even more based on your health.
Heal shield powers so fun on morde, Idk ifit actually does but I think it buffs both the shield and the heal so whenever I get chemtech drake I'm like nice very effiecent
mordekaiser support next ranked game for me
... Ap Xin Zhao hybrid ...
This is as frustrating as it can get to play against
imagine if bro got work in IRS
and if they have grevious wound on you, just use the shield xD
Damn Yumi catching strays yet again💀😂
>Special thanks to 'fix triumph'
I assume that's in reference to it still taking like 4 seconds to actually heal you despite being a rune for like 7 years? (According to the wiki its birthday was actually the 5th. November 5th, 2017. :D ) "Intended" most likely, but I'd argue it's probably some kind of bug they just refuse to (or can't) fix. Because, y'know, spaghetti code a mile long. Also, there's some effects, like Fizz's E or Lissandra's R, that cause it to "pop" and not affect you at all. Because that's fun.
Also, the wiki says it is a 'projectile with a fixed travel time of 1 second', but I'm calling major BS on that because I have had it take way more than that to even show up, let alone make it to me AND heal me. But Warwick has also had a bug where his Q heals him after he is already dead (love being gray screen with over 600 health on my hud) for EVER. Despite this game being worth billions of dollars a year, Riot has failed to fix many of the most glaring issues in some champions' kits simply because they are not 'pro play viable' as if that doesn't exclude 99.999% of the player base.
youd have to talk to the guy in question about it, idk what their issues with the rune are. Thats just their name lol
7:36 imagine if this was how they taught us math in school
Nice music choice
unending despair can be very usefull item for this build
Wait until they hear that renekton W can destroy shield lol
tldr; Quality VS Quanity(from the regular old meta build)
do 1 video for hecarim you get conQ + shieldbash revitalize and for build you go eclipse into serylda into winteraproche (if you get this 3 items with W Q you will heal 400 500 and deal a lot of dmg) then you go spirit visage into sterak for boots swifftnes for ms to chase down
Careful, he's a hero.
playing shild bash with is scary
I think dawncore is a valid 3rd item in his normal build. Item alone gives 18% healing and shielding power (with it's passive) and 45 ap which is decent.
stick to bronze lobbies bro
The passive doesn't work on Mordekaiser, so you only get 16% HS power. I do like going dawncore early, but it doesn't give more HS power than its components.
We saw it before rito, you can delete the vid now
Great song pick
I like to make just a part of this build and go for some better itens when it gets to the bad ones, works well
volibear with downcore+fimbulwinter and shieldbash is even stronger, heartsteel on top of that is great too, especially shield bash numbers are crazy with this build, i managed once to get over 10k dmg from it, and at least 5k every game
you play it with revitalise and add spirit visage later you stay max hp forever in teamfights
ULTRAKILL SOUNDTRACK MENTIONNED
has anyone ever mentioned full healing (and shielding) power tryndamere before?
he doesnt have shielding in his kit dummy
I really hate the fact that Riot seems to be against playing characters "incorrectly" but still allow you access to just about every item all characters can use.
Yes excuse me, I'll take 5 warmogs that stack and a Hydra plz.
I got autofilled toplane, played mordekaiser, enemy was an wukong, I was shitting hard on him, he bought serpent's, gg, game ruined, he obliterated me to hell.