Thank you for this video!!! I have been looking all over for a comparison between the perfromance and LR version. the 0-60 comparison was awesome! I'm just curious, you said both cars get pretty much the same range, but shouldn't the performance version have a range of only 280 miles and the non performance version 316 miles?
In my experience, both cars achieved an identical ~300 watt hours per mile over the 400 mile trip at highway speeds. I’m betting the lower estimated range is brought down by mostly city driving on the larger 21” wheels
Artem Tarasenko it was 280... that was an estimate.. before epa tested it. After epa results it achieved greater than the 280 miles.. thus resulting in 291 range..
The wheels and setup on the performance is just sick! Not a fan of the 18” Gemini wheels, but those black 20” wheels are a close second to the 21” Uber’s. Thanks Ryan!
I just ordered my white on white dual motor long range awd model Y non performance. I have my modified Trackhawk and modified C7Z06 to have fun with lol. With gas prices in the unknown I decided to grab a Tesla for a daily and to do my Ubereats and DoorDash in.
@@marioavila1559 You bought a 50,000 dollar car to combat gas prices…. Nice bro, my 2005 Corolla I picked up for 3,000 dollars a few years ago gets 45 MPG and it’s been reliable at 150,000 miles
@@MrSpy13011 Both are quick. The best way to compare the two are think of the performance vs BMW 335i vs BMW M3. This is how they were modeled, and the specs are similar.
So glad I found this video! it made A LOT easier my decision. Just upgraded my order to Performance. Thanks guys! BTW, price difference for me (Feb 5, 2023) was only 4k. No brainer here.
$55K LR vs $58K Performance= $3K. I just ordered Feb 5th as well. Definitely a no brainer, however keep in mind performance wille at up tires faster and insurance is more expensive than LR.
@@mramritsingh1 actually I ordered Jan 17, but Feb 5 I changed my order to Performance.. And yes, insurance for sure will be more expensive and those sticky tires will wear a lot faster
Watch Bearded Tesla Guy’s video on range. He had the Gemini wheels and tests them without and without the wheel covers, and there’s a difference even there. A big one.
No mention of differences in suspension or ride height. Taking both vehicles through a city environment would have added value. Also, was the standard dual motor vehicle in front of the performance during the long range testing? Those numbers suggest it may have been pushing more air out of the way.
@@KLWTTS Nice!! Points for that. When I take delivery of my Y I'm going to have to run some tests as well. I want to do a head to head, Performance PUP vs Stealth. Battery, tire pressure, equalize everything. i1Tesla just did a comparison and got results that made no sense.
If you add the nicer wheels (+2k) and the Performance Boost (+2k) to the long range model, then the Performance model is an extra 3k over the long range. Buying the Performance model was a no brainer for me...
Good video comparison. The boost in performance (3.8s 0-60 vs 5.1s 0-60) more than justifies the price. To get that level a bump in performance from another car company, you would have to spend $20k easy
Awesome video and thanks for doing the comparison. I will be picking up my Model Y PUP in a few days. Will most likely drive it in Chill Mode 99% of the time. Don't want to get arrested.
So, you're seeing a real world highway range of 220 miles for both the cars, give or take? Much lower than the 320 EPA estimate. Is that because you guys had AC on and were driving non-conservatively? I was expecting 250 miles of range on the "long range" assuming around 280wh/mile... Do you think the 19 inch wheels provide 10+% of range increase?
So range consumption isn’t very harsh on MYP? I’m deciding on if I should go for the MYP over the LR as a commuter, and due to current availability. Did you do any crazy speed increases, or high HVAC?
Good video would have liked a 60-0 and role race. how much better is the breaking in the performance? vs lr? would be nice to see the how much closer the lr would be with the performance boost as well? thank you
I really like the cosmetic looks of the performance so don’t have go buy. But ya could get the LR and paint your callipers red or car color, buy the spoiler attachment & buy the boost upgrade
Great comparison. Thanks for this. What I would be really interested in is the acceleration for overtaking like from 50 to 75 mph or from 80kph to 120 kph. Are the two cars very different in this chapter?
Concise and to the point. Great review. At 2k difference in US between LR vs Performance. What is your take ? Which one would you buy ? What is your opinion on basic 19 inch wheels and upgrades from outside market. Please help. I am about get one in 1 week.
@@KLWTTS Thanks.. been debating about whether to get long range or performance and which size wheels. Road noise and ride quality are key factors for me as I drive SF to LA often.
Thanks for the great video. Want to make sure I am reading your data correctly. On the first leg, the Performance actually had LOWER Wh/mi than the Long Range (277 vs 281) and on the return trip, the Performance was a little higher than the Long Range (327 vs 323 Wh/mi). Implies that there is no range loss on the Performance vs the Long Range w/20" Induction wheels. Is that correct? Thanks again for the terrific video. Would be interesting if you could compare the range, driving dynamics, and road feel of the Performance and the 19" Gemini wheels.
I bought a Model Y Performance “ sleeper “ recently. I’m thinking about putting aftermarket 20” performance wheels on and taking the 19” Gemini wheels off. Do you think that will affect my range & 0-60 by much or will it be unnoticeable?
It’s worth highlighting that these were imperfect conditions. In our upcoming Performance 3 vs Performance Y we achieved a 3.72 0-60 on the same stretch of road.
Austin Webber the Performance Y rides like a sports car. The non-performance on 20” wheels is a more luxurious and comfortable ride. If I’m driving to drive, I’m taking the performance Y. If I’m taking friends on a road trip, I’m taking the LR AWD.
Yes , only when the roads are not smooth but it is not that bad. My Y performance riding dynamics is really good compared to my other cars I have owned which have been 8 stangs. Therefore, it depends on what type of car you owned last when comparing quality of ride smoothness.
@@rickeybarnes6471 100%. Finally got the Y Perf. People judge harshly when they’ve never had a car with low-pro tires. Definitely rides well compared to the charger SRT that I had, but it’s not fair for me to compare it to the Ram 1500 (air suspension) that I traded in.
You did a gr8 review in only 4 min. Thank you very much! Also, it seems you answer most questions on the comments. I am at the same dilemma YP vs YLR. Question, once you are running at 60-70 mph in a highway, will you notice a difference when speeding to pass a car, or the difference is just noticeable when accelerating from a complete stop? I only could test the 0-60, and the difference is stunning ( 3.5 vs 5 sec)
I am in Europe waiting for model y arrival next year. I intend to choose performance and replace 21”x9.5-10.5” for 20”x9” to get longer range. Do you know any issues with this mod?
great video. I'm leaning more to the Long range now since the performance price has increased. I'm not sure if the performance worth $10k more than the Long range! However, i'd like to get the car for road trips. would that extra acceleration worth $10K?!
The Kilowatts wow, thank you so much for replying. Love the color. If you don’t mind me asking how much does that wrap cost? Thanks so much again. Take care. J
Yes, the 20” inch wheels and higher suspension is more comfortable on all road conditions. The 21” wheels on the performance suspension rides like a sports car
My guess is you were greatly exceeding the speed limit on your handling test. The narrow roads you used with limited sight distance are full of bicyclist currently and the combination of fast driving and bikes is super dangerous. Most locals are driving at significantly lower speeds on these roads than 10 or 20 years ago and you should too.
Thank you for this video!!! I have been looking all over for a comparison between the perfromance and LR version. the 0-60 comparison was awesome! I'm just curious, you said both cars get pretty much the same range, but shouldn't the performance version have a range of only 280 miles and the non performance version 316 miles?
280 is an estimate not epa.. the 316 mile range is achieved with 19s the 20 induction wheels bring range down to the 300 mark.
In my experience, both cars achieved an identical ~300 watt hours per mile over the 400 mile trip at highway speeds. I’m betting the lower estimated range is brought down by mostly city driving on the larger 21” wheels
@@mitchman54321 291EPA on 21" (Performance) and 316EPA on 19".
@@KLWTTS are you sure it's not due to the fact that the LR was rolling on upgraded 20" instead of the 19" Gas saving Gemini wheels?
Artem Tarasenko it was 280... that was an estimate.. before epa tested it. After epa results it achieved greater than the 280 miles.. thus resulting in 291 range..
One of the coolest 0 - 60 video special effects I've seen yet. Awesome. I think you should took an average 3 runs. IMO. :-)
Thank you! I’ll keep that in mind for the next video
No long pointless intro. Straight into the important stuff. Quick recap. Thank you for not wasting my time.
The best video I’ve found on the difference in range and power in a simple and straight forward video! Thank you!
Thank for you keeping this short, yet informative.
Would've been interesting to also see a acceleration comparison that isn't from a standstill, like starting at 30mph, 40mph, 50mph, 60mph
The wheels and setup on the performance is just sick! Not a fan of the 18” Gemini wheels, but those black 20” wheels are a close second to the 21” Uber’s. Thanks Ryan!
I couldn’t agree more
Loved how you presented that 0-60 test!
Thank you!
Great video! Glad we chose the PUP!
I chose the non performance cause I don't want to lose my license.
You can lose your license with either one..
Both cars are still pretty fast when compared to whats on the market
I just ordered my white on white dual motor long range awd model Y non performance. I have my modified Trackhawk and modified C7Z06 to have fun with lol. With gas prices in the unknown I decided to grab a Tesla for a daily and to do my Ubereats and DoorDash in.
@@marioavila1559 You bought a 50,000 dollar car to combat gas prices…. Nice bro, my 2005 Corolla I picked up for 3,000 dollars a few years ago gets 45 MPG and it’s been reliable at 150,000 miles
@@MrSpy13011 Both are quick. The best way to compare the two are think of the performance vs BMW 335i vs BMW M3. This is how they were modeled, and the specs are similar.
you need to do this test with MYP v. LRAWD + Accel Boost
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So glad I found this video! it made A LOT easier my decision. Just upgraded my order to Performance. Thanks guys! BTW, price difference for me (Feb 5, 2023) was only 4k. No brainer here.
$55K LR vs $58K Performance= $3K. I just ordered Feb 5th as well. Definitely a no brainer, however keep in mind performance wille at up tires faster and insurance is more expensive than LR.
@@mramritsingh1 actually I ordered Jan 17, but Feb 5 I changed my order to Performance.. And yes, insurance for sure will be more expensive and those sticky tires will wear a lot faster
Suspension comfort ?
1:54 is where the 0-60 test starts.
AWESOME video...please post more videos on the Model Y. That was great to watch. Thx
Harout H you got it!
Awesome video and awesome drone shot of the 0-60!
The reason for the same range is the tires. The wheels you had on the non performance are a 30 mile range hit (~10%)
I’d love to see how the two compare adding acceleration boost to LR.
that color on the MYP is so sick. getting the same!
Incredible angles and editing
Thank you!
Awesome vid ryan!!
First time I am able to see distance wise what 0-60 looks like. The performance was so close to the start line when it reached 60mph. Astonishing!
Lowered on 21" Wow I can already imagine how rough that ride is.
This is a great video, straight to the point and no bullshit!
Can you Please do a race with the LR with Boost VS Performance?
We'll see what we can do
I wish the Long Range version had standard 19" wheels instead, to see if there is an actual difference in range.
Watch Bearded Tesla Guy’s video on range. He had the Gemini wheels and tests them without and without the wheel covers, and there’s a difference even there. A big one.
Exactly why I got the MYP. Been raining here. Posting vids very soon.
No mention of differences in suspension or ride height. Taking both vehicles through a city environment would have added value. Also, was the standard dual motor vehicle in front of the performance during the long range testing? Those numbers suggest it may have been pushing more air out of the way.
We switched the lead car every 25 miles :)
@@KLWTTS Nice!! Points for that. When I take delivery of my Y I'm going to have to run some tests as well. I want to do a head to head, Performance PUP vs Stealth. Battery, tire pressure, equalize everything. i1Tesla just did a comparison and got results that made no sense.
Bruno Fracassa we had identical SOC and tire pressure for theses tests
Thanks for this, very interesting result on the range.
If you add the nicer wheels (+2k) and the Performance Boost (+2k) to the long range model, then the Performance model is an extra 3k over the long range. Buying the Performance model was a no brainer for me...
Quick, to the point, informative and entertaining. If only all of TH-cam was this great. Thank you for quality content!
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Good video comparison. The boost in performance (3.8s 0-60 vs 5.1s 0-60) more than justifies the price. To get that level a bump in performance from another car company, you would have to spend $20k easy
For $2k the long range does it in 4.2 seconds
Short sweet and to the point great review.
Much appreciated!
Here in late 2021 to help me decide, what an awesome video!
Thank you!!
Can you please try comparing 4 versions of Model Y (Perf, LR with Induction, LR with Gemini Caps Off, LR with Gemini Caps On) for Range capabilities?
Thanks, great comparing
Awesome video and thanks for doing the comparison. I will be picking up my Model Y PUP in a few days. Will most likely drive it in Chill Mode 99% of the time. Don't want to get arrested.
But that other 1% makes it all worth it
What about suspension? Is the LR a better ride with smaller rims?
Great video comparison
Ryan! Great video - miss working with you here at Tesla but stoked to see you doing well with the channel! Subscribed :)
Thank you! Good to hear from you
So, you're seeing a real world highway range of 220 miles for both the cars, give or take? Much lower than the 320 EPA estimate. Is that because you guys had AC on and were driving non-conservatively? I was expecting 250 miles of range on the "long range" assuming around 280wh/mile... Do you think the 19 inch wheels provide 10+% of range increase?
I’d say 250 if you really want to max out your range on a warm day while driving at 70+
Rumor mill is that the two models actually have the same motors, with the LR software limited on launch. Thoughts?
Same as model 3 at 40mph same perf
It certainly seems that way based on my testing
A brake test would have been a great addition to the video
So range consumption isn’t very harsh on MYP? I’m deciding on if I should go for the MYP over the LR as a commuter, and due to current availability. Did you do any crazy speed increases, or high HVAC?
Good video would have liked a 60-0 and role race. how much better is the breaking in the performance? vs lr? would be nice to see the how much closer the lr would be with the performance boost as well?
thank you
I really like the cosmetic looks of the performance so don’t have go buy. But ya could get the LR and paint your callipers red or car color, buy the spoiler attachment & buy the boost upgrade
Damn its a perfect rewiev🔥🔥🔥
Thank you!!
your Tshirt of Starman is cool.
Great comparison. Thanks for this. What I would be really interested in is the acceleration for overtaking like from 50 to 75 mph or from 80kph to 120 kph. Are the two cars very different in this chapter?
Great suggestion!
Concise and to the point. Great review. At 2k difference in US between LR vs Performance. What is your take ? Which one would you buy ?
What is your opinion on basic 19 inch wheels and upgrades from outside market. Please help. I am about get one in 1 week.
Does the long range have a noticeably more comfortable ride?
I live in the Bay Area, where did you get your Tesla wrapped?
What about road noise and ride feel between the 2?
Because the 21's ride harder, the Performance car is slightly louder in the cabin on rough roads. No difference when cruising on the freeway.
@@KLWTTS Thanks.. been debating about whether to get long range or performance and which size wheels. Road noise and ride quality are key factors for me as I drive SF to LA often.
Thanks for the great video. Want to make sure I am reading your data correctly. On the first leg, the Performance actually had LOWER Wh/mi than the Long Range (277 vs 281) and on the return trip, the Performance was a little higher than the Long Range (327 vs 323 Wh/mi). Implies that there is no range loss on the Performance vs the Long Range w/20" Induction wheels. Is that correct? Thanks again for the terrific video. Would be interesting if you could compare the range, driving dynamics, and road feel of the Performance and the 19" Gemini wheels.
Correct! So much for the 10% difference Tesla advertised. I’m guessing this is only true for highway driving
The overall range when fully charged is the same???
Do you truly feel a difference with the performance when you’re running a daily commute (without the excessive acceleration)?
No, except on on-ramps
I want the long-range but I also want the wheels from the performance version. Anybody knows how that would work?
I want the opposite performance on the 20s
Did this video just become a matchmaker?
How about suspension differences?
Who cares about brakes on a car you never brake with
I bought a Model Y Performance “ sleeper “ recently. I’m thinking about putting aftermarket 20” performance wheels on and taking the 19” Gemini wheels off. Do you think that will affect my range & 0-60 by much or will it be unnoticeable?
It will impact both but super minor.
Great comparison! I would go with performance all day!
was surprised the LR didn't meet the factory 0-60 specs. Tesla has a great track record of meeting or beating their advertised times.
It’s worth highlighting that these were imperfect conditions. In our upcoming Performance 3 vs Performance Y we achieved a 3.72 0-60 on the same stretch of road.
$6800 or $68000 extra on performance?Did I hear that wrong?
$6,000 to $8,000 depending on your base wheel selection.
Yes,you did hear wrong ,he said extra 6000-8000
Could you expand your thoughts on the difference in ride & handling? Smoothness, NVH, composure over road irregularities etc? Asking for my dog 😅
Austin Webber the Performance Y rides like a sports car. The non-performance on 20” wheels is a more luxurious and comfortable ride. If I’m driving to drive, I’m taking the performance Y. If I’m taking friends on a road trip, I’m taking the LR AWD.
Does the Performance give a bumpier ride?
Yes, the larger wheels and stiffer suspension are noticeably less smooth
Yes , only when the roads are not smooth but it is not that bad. My Y performance riding dynamics is really good compared to my other cars I have owned which have been 8 stangs. Therefore, it depends on what type of car you owned last when comparing quality of ride smoothness.
@@rickeybarnes6471 100%. Finally got the Y Perf. People judge harshly when they’ve never had a car with low-pro tires. Definitely rides well compared to the charger SRT that I had, but it’s not fair for me to compare it to the Ram 1500 (air suspension) that I traded in.
hi great video, was there much difference in road noise and comfort
Yes the Non-Performance car with its 20' wheels and taller suspension were quieter and noticeably more comfortable
Awesome 0-60 test. Do you feel the difference w the PUP lower suspension? Is it much stiffer than the LR? Thanks
It is noticeably stiffer and a little harsher however, that might be caused by the larger wheels.
Great, great review. very knowledgeable. great responses to questions. Speak more slowly and enunciate somewhat better. You are terrific.
This is the kind of comments you never see on TH-cam. Great feedback, working on it!
You did a gr8 review in only 4 min. Thank you very much! Also, it seems you answer most questions on the comments. I am at the same dilemma YP vs YLR. Question, once you are running at 60-70 mph in a highway, will you notice a difference when speeding to pass a car, or the difference is just noticeable when accelerating from a complete stop? I only could test the 0-60, and the difference is stunning ( 3.5 vs 5 sec)
Thats a good question and one we don't currently have data on. Would be happy to test the rolling acceleration for you in a week or so.
@@KLWTTS Awesome! Thanks
Hi. Informative video! I’m considering buying either model. Just wondering the diff of total charge miles you get with the LR vs Perf?
The performance advertises about 10% less but in our tests, at 70mph they were identical
@@KLWTTS that's because you have 20 inches on LR. Otherwise LR may give few more miles
Cool video
I am in Europe waiting for model y arrival next year. I intend to choose performance and replace 21”x9.5-10.5” for 20”x9” to get longer range. Do you know any issues with this mod?
I am not aware of any issues with that and will likely do the same in a few months as the weather changes.
@@KLWTTS let us know which rims you'll put ;)
hey im confused does this mean they go the same distance?
During our testing essentially yes.
great video. I'm leaning more to the Long range now since the performance price has increased. I'm not sure if the performance worth $10k more than the Long range! However, i'd like to get the car for road trips. would that extra acceleration worth $10K?!
The softer suspension and smaller wheels rides better for long road trips with family. I hope this helps!
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At 40mph the LR Model Y non perf should have same performance as Y Performance
That model y is red? Or after market orange?
Wrapped with 3M Fiery Orange Metallic
Great video! How did the ride comfort compare on both vehicles? Was the performance model comfy enough for long journeys?
Comfy enough yes but I prefer the non performance for longer trips.
@@KLWTTS and why is that?
My eyes deceive me. Is that a red performance? It looks kinda orange. I like it. Thanks
It's a wrap - 3M Fiery Orange
The Kilowatts wow, thank you so much for replying. Love the color. If you don’t mind me asking how much does that wrap cost? Thanks so much again. Take care. J
Any noticeable ride quality difference?
Yes, the 20” inch wheels and higher suspension is more comfortable on all road conditions. The 21” wheels on the performance suspension rides like a sports car
Except... no snow tires available for the performance!
My 2022 MPY comes with all season tires.
nice color
Thank you
Have more fun with your favorite car by upgrading your accessories.
The upgraded wheels on that long range affects/drops the mileage.
Clearly it didn't based on their drive lol
Why did you let me watch this video man.....now im about to spend an extra 8 grand....UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Now THIS is how you do a drag race test with that overhead drone shot. BRAVO!!!! S U B S C R I B E D!
Thank you KG!
Which color on the performance?
3M Fiery Orange th-cam.com/video/9v4duRe8-hI/w-d-xo.html
205 miles highway miles? It couldn’t manage more in summer weather?
From just this test, I’m confident both could have gone 240+ at California highway speeds (70-75mph)
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My guess is you were greatly exceeding the speed limit on your handling test. The narrow roads you used with limited sight distance are full of bicyclist currently and the combination of fast driving and bikes is super dangerous. Most locals are driving at significantly lower speeds on these roads than 10 or 20 years ago and you should too.
Bicyclist's
Bicyclists aren't going to dictate my speed.