Cinema P3 VS Filmic Pro VS Protake VS Moment | Which app has the best dynamic range?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Which smartphone filmmaking app has the best dynamic range between Cinema P3 , Filmic Pro , Protake and Moment? Lets me show you in three key areas which smartphone filmmaking app has the best Log profile to achieve a high level of dynamic range for colour correction and grading.
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CHAPTERS:
00:00 Intro
00:26 Settings used for a fair test
1:11 Dynamic range in Highlights
3:42 RGB Parade comparison
5:14 Dynamic range in shadows
6:47 Noise levels in each app
8:02 Conclusion and review of each app - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
I've been requesting a video like this for the longest. THANKS FOR THIS!!!! I heard Moment's log is more of a de-saturated LOOK as compared to a real LOG.
Happy to help! : ) Yeah Moment's Log is quite bizarre. Doesn't seem to make any noticeable difference to my eyes.
I looked for an alternate about a year ago, and stumbled upon Cinema P3. Underrated in my opinion. Good to see more and more people using it. Support the developers, pay for the full version.
This 100%.
Another banger of a video Rob! And very thorough tests that all of us can appreciate. Just a question: were you using deLog conversion LUTs (Filmic, CP3, and Protake have their own) or just correcting it manually?
Hi mate. Thanks! I just colour corrected the shots to keep it fairly simple. Turned out to be a really interesting experiment!
Been using the Moment app for a while and also found not much of a difference between the final results VS the footage I get from the phone itself. It does give bit more control over the camera in general. Will give Cinema P# a go and see how that compares for me. Thanks for this compassion! Good job.
Thanks! Yes using a pro filmmaking a makes a huge difference in how professional your shots will look with white balance locked for example. Enjoy P3!
😂 Autocorrect took over there, I meant P3 and “comparison”.
Great comparison. Love Cinema P3 and your channel. Thank You!!! (what phone did you film with?)
Thank you! It was a really interesting experiment to make. I used my iphone 12.
fantastic video, thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
Thank you. I've not done this sort of test on my CinemaP3. But I regularly use C Log 10 Bit graded in Lumafusion and adjusted for my personal taste.
I'm continually impressed with CP3
You're welcome! I may well use Cinema P3 log for my next short. It's really good and I am finding it pretty fun to use too.
awesome keep us your great work
Thank you! : )
for blown-out or clipped highlights taken in Log for filmic pro, do you think it can prevented if i use an ND filter?
I’ve been playing around with moment and filmic pro, trying to match colors with my Sony s3. So far moment is easier than filmic, but I need to do some more tests myself. Thanks for the vid.
You're welcome! That's interesting to hear. Thanks.
Hey bro ive been tring to do this with my canon rbele t7 and iPhone footage. Where you able to accomplish it since i still haven't been able to color match them
I love your videos btw
Thank you!
Thanks for the video. Very nice. I was wondering if you could do a video comparing the different Log profiles within CinemaP3? DLog is supposedly better for details in the highlights, and Clog is better for the shadows. I that actually true? Also, CinemaP3 lets you choose the saturation level in each log profile. Does it make any sense to either decrease or increase the saturation when recording in Log? If so, what are the circumstances one would decrease or increase the saturation? Thanks.
Thank you! As I have the iphone 12 I cannot test all the different Log levels unfortunately. I personally would de-saturate to the maximum level for the best dynamic range in post. Otherwise to me you may as well film in normal profile.
So which one to get? For landscaping videos? P3?
hey can you provide us the files link for all the log footages files you recorded in one folder , and we will see the results by our own methods , thanks it was a very good video over all
Please do a comparison Apple Log on new iPhone 15 Pro vs Cinema P3! Nobody did it yet!
I would love to but I have an iphone 12.
Question slightly off topic, do you know how well Filmic Pro integrates with Samsung S23/ S24 ultras? Thinking of making the switch but I think I phone's camera API is more developed for by 3rd party devs?
I've been testing Filmic Legacy log V2, unless it's a really bright sunny day , I get a lot of noise in dark areas. Also I find my self over compensating for the flat color and shooting 'darker' to make sure the whites are not blown out. It's a lot less hassle to film with flat and I find I'm more accurate with my ISO settings, with less highlights blown out. Any tips fro shooting in log, I often feel like I'm going in blind as all the colour won't be seen until post production?
To be honest I have the same issues. I generally ended up filming in flat profile if not using the natural profile.
It's a trade off between dynamic range for
extra noise. However I am using an iPhone 11pro max, be keen to see what Apple log on the15 can offer? @@SmartphoneFilmmaker
Love Protake but can’t get it to record to an external ssd drive (Samsung T5). In the settings under the Record tab external is greyed out. I set the phone to record Apple prores log, I have an iPhone 15 pro max. Can’t find any support online or any videos about this annoying issue. Does anyone here have the same issue? I wish the Blackmagic iPhone app and cinema P3 apps supported wireless monitoring like Protake on a second device.
I subscribed to Protake +
Cinema P3 for Log
Protake for standard color profile
Hi! Enjoyed watching the video.
I just am curious if the Cinema p3 app offers an option for turning off the HDR video processing as it sometimes mashes up the skin details and does not look cinematic. And If I use Log on Cinema p3, can I get rid of iphone’s oversharpened video?
Thank you! As far as I am aware there's no option to turn HDR off however the developer is very responsive to feedback if you grab his email from the blackburn apps website. Log will give you better dynamic range however you'd need something like a Moment Cinebloom filter (I use 10% strength) to get a softer image. Iphones for some reason don't get the option of turning image sharpness off which is annoying.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker Thank you so much for your reply! I'll subscribe your channel!
@@what2125 No problem and thanks!
man, you should explose properly for correct comparison bit don't use similar settings. one thing that your experiment says- protake log shifted towards highlight details (and save more shadows) and cinema p3 - to shadows (save more highlights)
and also those apps have different log settings 😊
when I check the clip properties in my NLE of shot footage from cinema p3, it says it contains dropped frames. So far for my filmic pro clips there aren't any. Any idea as why I am dropping frames? I tried to shoot the exact same settings -4k prores 709 60fps
cinema p3 is full og bugs and nobody is saying, i dont even talk about app crash, come clips now when use "live view" got no stabilization at all, random things in clips. a garbage for now, on the begining was good, now is fully crap.
Is it possible to color grade Cinema P3 A-log 8 bit SDR footage with "Dehancer Pro OFX" in premiere pro, if possible where can I find a tutorial or can you do one about it.
I would imagine it is possible but 8 bit is tricky to colour grade and maybe correct as you have less colour range to play with. I'd search in youtube how to colour grade 8 bit footage with dehancer pro OFX and hopefully someone has made that very video.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker Alrt, thanks for the feedback
@@michaeloshinvisuals No problem.
what about the sharpening? on my android, filmic pro has the option to adjust and turn off the sharpening. what about the rest of these 3 apps?
None of these apps have de-sharpening unfortunately.
do you have the recommended video setting for cinema p3 app
Hey. I actually talk about this throughout my newest video. 👍🏻
Nice
Thank you.
🙏🏼
Thank you!
Just a little glitch in your visuals. At about 9:10 your talking about Cinema P3 with the logo for the app, but your title says Filmic Pro. Sorry for nitpicking.
Oh damn! Thanks for letting me know. With all the titles in this video I thought I had kept it tight. Thanks for watching!
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker of course. Sometimes it takes fresh eyes to see things. I love your videos. Such great breakdowns and useful tips snd tricks for use noobs. Keep them coming.
@@cioccolata12 Thanks! Yes you do get goggily eyed watching the edit over and over. Thanks for all your feedback. Appreciate it.
FilmicPro seems to overexpose when you use the same exposure for all of the apps. Try underexposing a little and see next time. Great comparison otherwise.
Yeah it may have been different if I had used a stronger ND filter for filmic pro. Good point. Thanks for watching!
No cinema p3 for Android unfortunately. I have a pixel 6 pro and will probably go for protake for money reasons alone.
Yeah it's a shame that there's so few options for Android.
Is it better to shoot without log and edit afterwards?
If you want extra dynamic range in the shadows and highlights it is and also for colour grading and corrections. If you don't do any of that post production stuff normally then it's no big deal.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker Ahh okay thank you
Is cinema p3 compatible with Hohem iSteady m6 gimbal does anyone know?
Unfortunately it is not compatible with any gimbal currently.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker ok thank you for your answer.
BeastCam? Best I’ve used
Beastcam is very good but doesn't have log or flat colour profiles for people wanting to colour grade.
@@SmartphoneFilmmaker yeah, they have been promising log for a few years but it’s not something I need for smartphone filmmaking. I just purchased cinema p3 pro based on the overwhelming positivity it’s getting. No harm in having 2 excellent apps. I’ll decide which I prefer for most recording but will find a use for both
seems you shot all of these without ND filters
Yes that's correct. Normally I would but the weather was changing so much I would have been changing ND filters every 2 minutes.
The Horniman?
Why yes it is!
@@aedanjmcghie Same! It looks incredible in the summer.