Vanny - the most missed potential in anything ever

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  • @shadowsoulless6227
    @shadowsoulless6227 ปีที่แล้ว +9300

    Why are you just wasting so much milk? Like there's not even a pun or a joke You're just wasting a plushie and a bunch of milk..... Is that supposed to be entertaining? Is that what the kids are into these days?

  • @Meldrop451
    @Meldrop451 ปีที่แล้ว +9862

    I hate how everything Henry and Mike sacrificed was for nothing, just for Afton to come back for "plot convenience"

    • @Meldrop451
      @Meldrop451 ปีที่แล้ว +343

      @@17denby help wanted was fine other than the story there should've never been glitchtrap either

    • @starchaser777
      @starchaser777 ปีที่แล้ว +308

      @@thecultofcaged i love your idea. it got from "big scary purple man kills children" to a criticism of capitalism.
      also yeah make william die and just end his plot there but then bring vanny as this crazed loser fangirl that'll do anything to be like william and shit. it would be cool asf.

    • @Meldrop451
      @Meldrop451 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      @@thecultofcaged Bravo. This is such a good idea/concept.

    • @17denby
      @17denby ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@thecultofcaged yeah that’s a better explanation / idea than what I did

    • @someguy1894
      @someguy1894 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      real

  • @paragonrobbie9270
    @paragonrobbie9270 ปีที่แล้ว +7766

    The fact that they intentionally removed any and all potentially "not child friendly" aspects from the game (besides Vanny getting torn apart offscreen) is the worst mistake they made.

    • @ZrvZaza
      @ZrvZaza ปีที่แล้ว +112

      word

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 ปีที่แล้ว +1021

      They literally cut out the words " blood" and " kill" from the game

    • @ca_lcium
      @ca_lcium ปีที่แล้ว +118

      They know their audience and they want to appeal to said audience

    • @mrplayfulshade
      @mrplayfulshade ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ca_lciumYeah that's kinda the problem. I HATE that this franchise is so centered around children. It's fucking pathetic. This story and subject matter deserves to be oh I dont know...SCARY? Ffs get your head out of your ass Steel Wool and actually make something that can scare us.

    • @ballerinaonamusicbox
      @ballerinaonamusicbox ปีที่แล้ว +555

      @@ca_lciumokay but most of the audience is teenagers

  • @naciabell7903
    @naciabell7903 ปีที่แล้ว +780

    Fun fact about security breach. If you look up the dev interviews and their responces on how the game was developed? it explains a LOT. The biggest of which being, that THEY didn't know what the hell was going on in the story, cause Scott didn't acutally tell them what the plot even WAS. Just what to put into the game, without explaining it. Cause that's just how he does FNAF games. Obivously that works ok when he's doing them solo and on smaller scale games. But he was working to make a big, open world, exploration game and with a studio. And that lead to so many problems the game wound up having. Relying on vaugeness and hints to tell your story can be a huge problem.
    And Security Breach proved that. Espically given how the game was gutted from it's original much darker and bloodier premise due to Scott's well...Everything.
    And Sadly, most indie horror games saw this and thought 'Oh hey we can do that to and get the same results!' ANd thus we got hello Neighbor and others.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Others?

    • @GUNUFofficial
      @GUNUFofficial ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Hello neighbor was before this game, in fact the reason it was so well received at first is because the alpha builds where actually good.

    • @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4545
      @aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa4545 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Hello neighbor came out years before SC? This game trend has existed for a long time

    • @wastoxic
      @wastoxic ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I think you you wanted to say garten of banban instead of hello neighbor

    • @LowIntSpecimen
      @LowIntSpecimen ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@wastoxic Banban strikes me more as a bendy clone tbh

  • @graham7784
    @graham7784 ปีที่แล้ว +2441

    The only thing that saved this game is that it was completely unfinished, allowing people to break the game in fun and innovative ways for fun.

    • @fluffywhompus
      @fluffywhompus ปีที่แล้ว +170

      Security breach is kinda like Skyrim, people only really like the game because in breaks in funny ways that make the game more bearable

    • @Mordeczka1234
      @Mordeczka1234 ปีที่แล้ว +183

      ​@@fluffywhompus at least Skyrim has a comprehensible fucking story

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@Mordeczka1234Too bad Delphine is in the game though 😭 almost makes me want a nuclear winter

    • @JackAs-nc4jh
      @JackAs-nc4jh ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@fluffywhompus skyrim is a solid game tho, and all the bugs are visual

    • @croissantsareaustrianactually
      @croissantsareaustrianactually ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@fluffywhompusBEARable

  • @EasyEighty-Eight
    @EasyEighty-Eight ปีที่แล้ว +4729

    I completely agree with Vanny just being a deranged fan of serial killers and William Afton. It not only makes Vanny much more interesting as a character, but also helps the series finally split away from William being the villain, while also having his influence still have an impact on the series. It just makes it worse that they had literal gold in their hands, and still managed to screw it up.

    • @gibbyjibby0
      @gibbyjibby0 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      yea i love this idea too

    • @Juan_3M3R
      @Juan_3M3R ปีที่แล้ว +303

      I love this idea as well, and if you add in the idea of Vannesa being a literal fangirl of the Fazbear Franchise and... boom, interesting new killer, instead of WILLIAM AGAIN

    • @adela6715
      @adela6715 ปีที่แล้ว +251

      Honestly, yeah. I always thought they should've just made Vanny a copycat killer. That way Afton's legacy still could've lived on, not because of some computer virus BS, but because Fazbear Entertainment wouldn't let his story die.

    • @mrplayfulshade
      @mrplayfulshade ปีที่แล้ว +149

      I thought this is what they WERE going for when they teased SB all those years ago. It's such a interesting and cool idea to have a "Afton" Admirer and basically a copycat killer. But they somehow fucked it up and made the worse decisions story wise I could ever imagine. Ugh..

    • @chost-059
      @chost-059 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      That was too much to handle for the writers, better just have Abraham Lincoln as the main villain because aftons remnant ghost revived him for unexplained reasons and agony magic controlls him or something

  • @wintertoastie
    @wintertoastie ปีที่แล้ว +412

    Having Vanessa be a crazed fan of a serial killer would've been more realistic and so much cooler. The bunny costume would pay homage to the fact that Afton wore the Spring Bonnie suit to lure children. Creating a replica of the first location for nostalgia and so she could really feel like Afton, keeping the knife in the game, keeping the giggling in the game instead that annoying ass line "are you having fun yet", she programmed the glamrock animatronics to hunt Gregory, and the other missing children, brought them to her replica lair to kill. A true evil who's a fan of evil would've been a much better story than William coming back for the 80th time.

    • @johnernest5843
      @johnernest5843 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Damn that's some Saw level shit I love it

  • @LePLusCoolDesCools
    @LePLusCoolDesCools ปีที่แล้ว +2933

    She appears 6 times throughout the game (not counting the endings), yet 4 of her encounters are completely missable. Most players probably won't even notice her being there, so for most players, she will only appear twice.

    • @kingx1024
      @kingx1024 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      And for one of those moments for a good amount of time, she wouldn't even spawn in correctly, so one of those 6 times she wouldn't had even appeared.

    • @boanoah6362
      @boanoah6362 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      @@kingx1024 That was her 'boss fight', she did technically spawn into it but she spawned out of bounds or something, they now patched it so she spawns in behind you for the chase segment but she's so slow 90% of players will never notice her anyways.

    • @sagrawolf
      @sagrawolf ปีที่แล้ว +65

      I know a chunk of the shattered chica location vanny is supposed to appear but she’s so slow that unless you are looking at the many post it notes or the random easy to miss shrine you won’t see the screen turning red and distorting

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me it was of course the kidnap and then making it to parts and service. The parts and service one was because of me going too slow

    • @gamercentral2417
      @gamercentral2417 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sagrawolfthe maze part? Cause I don’t remember vanny in any other. But yeah I’ve seen vanny there

  • @stamuu
    @stamuu ปีที่แล้ว +1006

    Bro imagine in the movies they just go "somehow Afton has returned"

    • @pokeaust7800
      @pokeaust7800 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      One thing I can give the awful storytelling of Security Breach is that it at least has better reasoning for why its villain came back than Rise of Skywalker

    • @salt_factory7566
      @salt_factory7566 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be, unnatural.

    • @dangerheart2578
      @dangerheart2578 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Noooooooo! Why would you put that thought into my head?! I hope they don't actually pull a Rise of Skywalker.

    • @somethingwithbungalows
      @somethingwithbungalows ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@dangerheart2578they will,,
      They will they wil, they will they will, they wil

    • @dangerheart2578
      @dangerheart2578 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@somethingwithbungalows Why must you do this to me?

  • @disconnected7225
    @disconnected7225 ปีที่แล้ว +2326

    The funniest part is they deleted all of scary and mature content from game like vanny's knife, her loud scream jumpscare,darker lighting and very cool voicelines from the trailer just to make it more appealing to kids who are part of like %20 of fanbase

    • @GardenVarietea
      @GardenVarietea ปีที่แล้ว +524

      Not to mention, the kids were attracted to the series because of those said darker elements

    • @nofamilylink541
      @nofamilylink541 ปีที่แล้ว +355

      @@GardenVarietea 7 year old me being fascinated by 5 kids being slaughtered and left in entertainment animatronic suits to haunt them for years

    • @bluebomber875
      @bluebomber875 ปีที่แล้ว +229

      @@GardenVarieteaLITERALLY THOUGH, part of the appeal for me when I was kid was the fact it was so scary I wasn’t even sure if I was ALLOWED to be watching it lol. It’s what drummed up hype and theories at the lunch tables, if it was the way the franchise was now, we wouldn’t have even known about it.

    • @somerandomguyontheinternett
      @somerandomguyontheinternett ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bluebomber875 exact same thing for me!!!

    • @Josuh
      @Josuh ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You mean 80%

  • @hyperion3145
    @hyperion3145 ปีที่แล้ว +5958

    Using Freddy's deduction logic, the fact "bussy" is also similar to "bunny" and "Vanessa" must also mean something
    Edit: this way leads to madness

  • @blyndeaf8503
    @blyndeaf8503 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    My head canon for Vanessa was that she was big into the spooky stuff and “rumors” about the murders in FNAF, so she applied for the job to see for herself and got TOO into it; like true crime fans mailing love letters to killers into it. So since she fostered this sort of obsession, it turned into new conspiracies and delusions, and all of a sudden, she wanted to be a part of what was fascinating her so much, hearing voices were there were none and prancing down the halls in her costume that represented the shocking horrors and infamous tales, becoming the evil that encapsulated her mind, wanting to be a part of the stories feeding her dark fantasies that she didn’t know she had. I’m not big into the lore though, so I don’t know if there’s anything that disproves this. I’m just a casual fan that enjoys the theories and SOME of the games.

    • @thymecrafter
      @thymecrafter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      theres a lot that does I wont mention because this is better

    • @skyfluffycat6258
      @skyfluffycat6258 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      exactly! I always wished Vanny was just someone who idolised William Afton a lot. I dont know the lore all that much anymore because its just too much

    • @idontcarewhatmyusernameis7324
      @idontcarewhatmyusernameis7324 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@skyfluffycat6258 And maybe Glitchtrap was just a hallucination that was telling her and ONLY HER what to do until she made a real Glitchtrap virus which ironically only follows Vanny's commands as it is what the Mimic should be. Like Moondrop a robot following the orders of its evil creator, but not a main antagonist.

  • @someuncreativeusername3290
    @someuncreativeusername3290 ปีที่แล้ว +3678

    I think Afton's line "I always come back" should be interpreted much more esoterically. Instead of "I always get ressurected from the dead" it should be "The consequences if my actions will always find a way to haunt people".
    I love the idea of crazed serial killer fangirl Vanny, and I think Glitchtrap could have worked in a similar way (though I think Malhare is a much better name). I mean, an AI that developes dangerous patterns because it isn't supervised properly? They had two fantastic opportunities for relevant social commentary, and they completely fumbled it.
    Edit: Just wanted to clarify, I didn't come up with the name Malhare. I don't remember where I got it from, but I'm not trying to claim anyone's ideas as my own.

  • @superkonijn988
    @superkonijn988 ปีที่แล้ว +8453

    I love how you had to reuse so much vanny footage because her appearances amount to 1-2 minutes.

    • @piranhalettuce
      @piranhalettuce ปีที่แล้ว +377

      It wasn’t even 2 minutes, it was a millisecond.

    • @boanoah6362
      @boanoah6362 ปีที่แล้ว +465

      Which is extra hilarious when you consider she technically has 4 full chase scenes and 2 game over scenes... The game is just so inept people rarely even notice her, heck her 'boss fight' used to be bugged so she wouldn't even show up.

    • @frank_calvert
      @frank_calvert ปีที่แล้ว +180

      even funnier is most of it is trailer footage, not even game footage

    • @afloofyvixen9514
      @afloofyvixen9514 ปีที่แล้ว +155

      She literally has a single fucking line in the whole game

    • @isabelortiz1230
      @isabelortiz1230 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      ​@@afloofyvixen9514ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET???????

  • @chrom-manandrobin7983
    @chrom-manandrobin7983 ปีที่แล้ว +851

    Vanny’s inclusion in the story is just the perfect embodiment for the entire franchise. Created by blindly throwing spaghetti at the walls in the hopes that children stay entertained, furries stay baited, and TH-camrs continue to write the plot themselves.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What?

    • @KioshiKatsu
      @KioshiKatsu ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@dylansharp8471 You know how to read?

    • @MSCDonkeyKong
      @MSCDonkeyKong ปีที่แล้ว +57

      he has a point

    • @nukesrus2663
      @nukesrus2663 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@KioshiKatsu I don't. Can you spell it out for me in morse?

    • @salt_factory7566
      @salt_factory7566 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      “Her suit’s been hastily thrown together like something else I know”

  • @balkaba3927
    @balkaba3927 ปีที่แล้ว +892

    they couldve made vanny into a sadistic physcopath who adored william afton and wanted to do what he did and starts sacrificing kids in his name, and then gregory's friends go into the pizzaplex, go missing so he goes in and then realize they're all dead and tries escaping or someth, like holy shit they had so much potential but they just wasted it man, the game itself isnt even scary, the reason why its bad is mainly since it isnt even fnaf, completely different horror mechanics, no five nights, shit lore, bad villian and writing etc

    • @gibbyjibby0
      @gibbyjibby0 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      exactly. i also hate how people are trying to like be nice about the game and say it isnt as bad as everyone says but it genuinely is that bad. maybe as a game on its own it’s mediocre, but this is fnaf we’re talking about so compared to the rest of the series it’s complete dogshit

    • @balkaba3927
      @balkaba3927 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@gibbyjibby0 The gameplay after playing the game really is just mediocre, the stealth mechanics have sort of increased making you use your camera and hiding spots more but it still doesnt really scare you like a normal fnaf game does. Fnaf is designed to make you practically helpless apart from doors, or a mask or something else. Security breach does something completely different, makes it worse and generic and pretty much like every other fnaf game. Anyone who has played the first 5 fnaf games understands this and most of the time thinks security breach is just alright or outright garbage.

    • @wastelandlegocheem
      @wastelandlegocheem ปีที่แล้ว +18

      MUCH better than HER DA DUR WILLIAM BRAINWASHED HER AND HAS PSYCHIC ROBOT HACKER SKILLS QND IS STILL ALIVE

    • @blehh_mae
      @blehh_mae ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i really wish they did something like, the company that bought the animatronics actually bought blueprints from the sister location era of william aftons stuff without knowing theyre murder robots, so the glamrock animatronics were made with the company not even realizing theyre actually murdermachines due to greed and ignorance or something (so you get a feel for the company being evil, which makes them actually important to the lore this time), and thats what the whole game was about
      like imagine if glamrock freddy was still helpful, but the weird mech thing is just a trap and instead you just die in there, and the whole game is trying to avoid the animatronics that may or may not even know theyre trying to kill you depending on which one and at the end you just leave with no idea what the hell happened and try to tell the police or your mom or Someone, which could set the baseline for a sequel where youre a detective or a guard after they heard rumours of the robots being violent at night and need someone to either investigate or make sure no other rumours are spread
      like that wouldve been so damn interesting

    • @scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833
      @scramblelikeaeggbeforeifol5833 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@blehh_maethat would have been so damn dumb

  • @austinmarks4088
    @austinmarks4088 ปีที่แล้ว +755

    I always wondered if the "Vanny sounds like Vanessa and also bunny. That cannot be a coincidence." line was originally going to be about Bonnie because of that whole mini mystery about Glamrock Bonnie in the game. Like, why would the word "bunny" raise any alarm bells?

    • @jinx7641
      @jinx7641 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      that line also happens to be one of the funniest things to come from the game lmao

    • @Chaotic_Overlord
      @Chaotic_Overlord ปีที่แล้ว +146

      The way you explained this idea makes It seem like a Ship name and I find that pretty funny.

    • @jinx7641
      @jinx7641 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Chaotic_Overlord LITERALLY THIS

    • @TheGeladoo
      @TheGeladoo ปีที่แล้ว +90

      That line is legitimately my favorite line of the entire game. It's so bad it turns around to being straight up gold

    • @reptiliannoizezz.413
      @reptiliannoizezz.413 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      ​@@Chaotic_Overlord Bonnessa

  • @deadlyspringlocks87
    @deadlyspringlocks87 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I really wish the 'Vanny is a crazy fangirl of afton' plot was actually used in the game. It would've been way more interesting and a better way of referencing older fnaf games. I really hope they don't mess up the movie. I'm really hoping that Scott is putting a lot of effort into writing it and making it make sense.

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😔🙏💛
      😞👌👉
      Well, sense by the standards of Fnaf \_😕_/

  • @KotaroKoala
    @KotaroKoala ปีที่แล้ว +1394

    As someone who hasn't played Security Breach, everything in this video is 100% correct.

    • @sirnerdsalot2641
      @sirnerdsalot2641 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      As someone with zero experience of said game, I can confirm this comment.

    • @Thereallifebuddy
      @Thereallifebuddy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No Vanny is a good villain. But she's not terrible. She's actually terrifying. If you pay attention enough And also. A villain doesn't need to appear every single time. For example halloween ends Michael Myers has no. Screen time. But he still good in that movie. Since hes a really good villain. However Corey is way better than vanny. But I do like the two So is Vanny bad has a villain no Is she a wonderful villain no She is just good. PS. god loves you

    • @WOKEchair
      @WOKEchair ปีที่แล้ว +22

      As someone who hasn't played but has seen enough spiff vods/vids to drown spiff himself, I can confirm

    • @Thereallifebuddy
      @Thereallifebuddy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WOKEchair That's understandable. But vanny is a way better villain If you get used to her. Of course. she Not.terrible She just doesn't appear that much. In s b So cut Is her some slack

    • @kirbtheblob
      @kirbtheblob ปีที่แล้ว +1

      even the start?

  • @gibbyjibby0
    @gibbyjibby0 ปีที่แล้ว +1019

    This game could have easily been this:
    Vanessa is one of those girls that gets obsessed with serial killers and tries to continue what William started. So she starts killing kids too and what not but make her more like ruthless and evil. She also wears the original mask cause I like it more. Gregory is one of those kids she goes after but he finds out/sees something he shouldn’t have so that makes him her main target. Instead of the pizzaplex, the main setting is like sort of what it was before but just a bigger Chuck e Cheese and when it hit’s midnight, most of the lights in the building go off. Overall the game needs to be darker visually and plot wise.

    • @bloopahVIII
      @bloopahVIII ปีที่แล้ว +99

      agreed, especially on the lighting part because this game is just "neon color vomit: the 'survival' 'horror' game"

    • @l3g1t332
      @l3g1t332 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      To make security breach good, it has to not be security breach? Fair.

    • @nerd9777
      @nerd9777 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I love a good ‘YT comments section reimagining of a plot that’s hundreds of times better than the original, seriously you should be a writer’

    • @CrispyCousy
      @CrispyCousy ปีที่แล้ว +27

      "She also wears the original mask cause I like it more."
      Unbelievable writing

    • @palhacogozo89
      @palhacogozo89 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@nerd9777fr

  • @dob5031
    @dob5031 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    these videos combine my love of video essays and my autism

  • @athy8763
    @athy8763 ปีที่แล้ว +402

    im glad someone FINALLY made a point to bring up how fucking wacky it was for the protagonist of fnaf1 to suddenly be a hugely lore important character.

    • @infsm27
      @infsm27 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      And simultaneously the same guy as EVERY fnaf protagonist

    • @salt_factory7566
      @salt_factory7566 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      One of the best elements that made the initial stages of this franchise good was wondering what drove the security guards to keep going. Then apparently all of the guards were all somehow an empty corpse being possessed by itself that had personal connection to the villain.

    • @anusaukko6792
      @anusaukko6792 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Makes sense doe

    • @anidiot192
      @anidiot192 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      ​@@infsm27except Jeremy Fitzgerald. Jeremy Fitzgerald is just a random dude who works as a Nightguard in the FNaF 2 location for 6 nights and then gets his face bitten off

    • @louisbizarrogotico
      @louisbizarrogotico ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@infsm27not 2 tho

  • @cubinel
    @cubinel ปีที่แล้ว +148

    FNAF fans when William Afton returns for the 853rd time (they weren’t expecting it):

  • @d7n4m1
    @d7n4m1 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    15:37 "Kill that guy" -William Afton
    had me dead 💀

  • @maravreloaded
    @maravreloaded ปีที่แล้ว +428

    The Mimic is just a scapegoat to say _"you see guys? We didn't revive Afton. No, it's a brand new character you see?"_

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว

      😔😞😑😓👌👍👉

    • @IronCrawdady
      @IronCrawdady 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      THE MIMIC!!

    • @ExaltedUriel
      @ExaltedUriel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hasn't the Mimic been a thing in the books for way longer than Security Breach though
      Like the books have been informing the games since like, Security Breach, I don't see a reason to be mad about it anymore, and obviously this video came out before Ruin but I think Ruin makes it pretty clear it won't JUST be Afton 2.

    • @FNAFGamer_2023
      @FNAFGamer_2023 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ExaltedUriel No, because Tales of the Pizzaplex hadn’t come out back then

    • @maravreloaded
      @maravreloaded 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Mimic is a retcon.

  • @looselytelling
    @looselytelling ปีที่แล้ว +170

    No guys the frame rate is supposed to be bad, it's a clue to solving the bite of 1912

  • @MrMagnum_
    @MrMagnum_ ปีที่แล้ว +117

    The inclusion of Jontron's music at 18:41 made me laugh so unreasonably hard because it was so random and had pretty much no rhyme or reason to be included in that part of the video, just like Vanny does in the game

  • @MelancholicGiga
    @MelancholicGiga ปีที่แล้ว +548

    I feel like Vanny/Vanessa would've been a creepy antagonist if they fleshed her out more than just "a guard that is possessed and chases you around in a bunny suit" and her knife she had in the teaser would've been better in the game as she chases you around meaning she will kill you if she catches you other than what they went with where it looks like she wants to hug you instead, this could also fix her jumpscare into making it more unique and human-like instead of what the game settled for and I mean like as in she grabs you and stabs you with a knife as any serial killer would do.
    I also remember she was supposed to have a meter in the game where if you spend too much time in one area she would go there and try to find you which would've been cool and unnerving knowing you wont be able to hide forever, considering she is human that makes hiding from her to be harder because unlike the animatronics she can easily know where you are hiding if she even gets a glimpse of where you ran to hide cause then she'll know to check those hiding spots before eventually finding you.
    Overall she isn't a bad character and could be really creepy and scary but they didn't execute her character properly and that's why she just feels more like an extra obstacle than the main antagonist in the game, I do hope the DLC does justice to the game making it more enjoyable and maybe explain the mechanics and locations a lot better.

    • @bunnyben87
      @bunnyben87 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I think the best way to balance the meter out is to prevent it from activating prior to the first time you see her after the daycare.

    • @derple8524
      @derple8524 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      It absolutely looks like she's trying to give you a hug, which is such a weird looking jumpscare in my opinion

    • @palhacogozo89
      @palhacogozo89 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spoiler: the dlc didnt💀💀💀💀💀

    • @PoppyUr
      @PoppyUr ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The dlc was worse than the main SB game 😭 the plot is so odd, the animatronics barely chase after you, there’s basically no fights, the “mask” AI thing was so strange and everything felt so… surface level. Didn’t explain anything about the main game. I do, however like what they did with Roxy. Won’t give spoilers to anything of the dlc in case people haven’t played/watched it yet. But it was very disappointing lol

  • @qibsichan
    @qibsichan ปีที่แล้ว +131

    Oh man, seeing this video sparked a rage I’ve been feeling for a while. Vanny is my absolute favourite character. She has been since she was first revealed in Help Wanted, and I’ve been waiting for her screen time since. Just think of all the things this character is capable of and all the ways her story can be taken - there are so many paths she could cross, but the one she got was ‘Forgettable Side Character’.
    I’m still furious over it. I got so angry I literally rewrote security breach. I’m pleased to say she can form words other than “aRe YoU hAvInG fUn YeT”. If anyone’s interested, it’s in the replies. I promise she has more than five minutes of screen time.
    I’m sorry, the whole Vanny thing just… ARRGH. Steel Wool had better give her justice in Ruin (assuming they haven’t already killed her off). My poor girl was so misused people can’t even decide if VANny and VANessa are the same person due to how fucked up the lore is.

    • @radioisactive7590
      @radioisactive7590 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What replies???

    • @thegreatandpowerfuldc5977
      @thegreatandpowerfuldc5977 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      “They better give her some justice in Ruin”
      I’ve got some bad news for ya 😂

    • @jlwiseman98
      @jlwiseman98 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@thegreatandpowerfuldc5977 well, at least the vanny mask got to be onscreen for longer then 5 minutes. XD

  • @sleepyhollowo
    @sleepyhollowo ปีที่แล้ว +446

    i swear it seems like Steel Wool/Scott saw that fans were predicting Vanny’s involvement and were like ‘FRICK they guessed it too quick, should we change it?? we gotta make sure it’s a plot twist!!!’
    or they just didn’t know what they wanted from her in the first place😭i almost hope the DLC retcons and clarifies things but that might be too much to hope for lmao

    • @UsernameDoesntCare
      @UsernameDoesntCare ปีที่แล้ว +77

      thats actually so true lol, like instead of making a good story they focussed more on trying to subvert fans expectations.

    • @fluffywhompus
      @fluffywhompus ปีที่แล้ว +60

      They actually changed the story like twice because matpat got too close to what the story was going to be about

    • @PancakemonsterFO4
      @PancakemonsterFO4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      And then they predicted Springtrap so they changed it to the mimic tm

    • @colorstripes8588
      @colorstripes8588 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Honestly, I don't think there's anything you could do with the franchise anymore. It had a good run with its story and it came to an end. It landed a great mark on the videogame industry and everything. Some might say a little too great tbh and, the team should've just kept it that way, and all this mimic and glitchwraith or whatever crap Scott puts in his books nowadays should be put into something new for once.

    • @Its_Asteria
      @Its_Asteria ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@fluffywhompuswhich. Tbh I'm sure was a steel wool decision mainly too. Cause Scott never xhanged his stuff just cause people guessed it before it came out

  • @humptydumptysat
    @humptydumptysat ปีที่แล้ว +430

    This is facts. Vanny was such a cool character that they hyped from FNAF Help Wanted to the later on advetisement. It seems like they got so caught up in trying to make the game better they neglected the most important character in the GAME!
    If Vanny is dead in the DLC I will be severely disappointed. Vanny deservse better! Someone make a fangame.

    • @hectorplay8199
      @hectorplay8199 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm 80% sure they will make Cassie (the girl form the trailer) the new Vanny after something happened with the original.
      It's just seems the better option than trying to redeem the original one to me.

    • @starchaser777
      @starchaser777 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@hectorplay8199 i still don't know who that is. there's so many cassies and cassidys at this point that im just lost, man

    • @starchaser777
      @starchaser777 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      yk how the fandom took the early fnaf lore (fnaf 1-5) and transformed into "fnaf vhs" where the characters became way scarier and their stories portrayed as a horrific, sad case (as they should)? yeah im waiting for that to happen to vanny/vanessa. give her those deep scary eyes man idk just make her the antagonist she always deserved to be

    • @hectorplay8199
      @hectorplay8199 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@starchaser777 There's just two actually: The one who died and is related to Golden Freddy and the alive one from the DLC.

    • @bsheepdestroyermakesstuff7222
      @bsheepdestroyermakesstuff7222 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Trying to make the game better" lol what the whole gameplay is as shallow as Garten of banban

  • @stardestroyer81
    @stardestroyer81 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    15:03
    The "IT BURNS" joke is made even funnier when you recall what the headline of the newspaper covering Fazbear's Fright's demise is

  • @Deterna
    @Deterna ปีที่แล้ว +352

    Mattpat: promise you won't change anything to be confusing and to make bait lore videos
    Steel wool: yeeesss
    Actually *removes 99% of the game and brings back Afton* like a boss

    • @sahilhossain8204
      @sahilhossain8204 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Ah naw now there's lore bait media 😡😱

    • @stingerjohnny9951
      @stingerjohnny9951 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Im waiting for Matt to finally just give up on FNAF, just have a stream of him tossing his binders of notes and theories into a barrel fire.

    • @incognitoburrito6020
      @incognitoburrito6020 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@legoguy2511 I wish they'd give up trying to make the FNAF story make sense as a cohesive whole or just reboot the franchise already. I want the series to go completely off rhe deep end. The absurd AR sci fi in Ruin comes close, but I want more. Either make make Freddy in Space and make it canon, or make Help Wanted and everything after them an alternate universe sort of setting

    • @salt_factory7566
      @salt_factory7566 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stingerjohnny9951 “This game series is just a joke now, none of these theories will be remembered, end communication”

  • @PinheaDipshit
    @PinheaDipshit ปีที่แล้ว +276

    The fact that the trailers had more a better possible story than the actual game, is the biggest fumble in gaming history.

    • @magicman3163
      @magicman3163 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Real

    • @MyUsersDark
      @MyUsersDark ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Maybe not in all of gaming... that's a big claim. Fallout 76, for example..

    • @nerd9777
      @nerd9777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I personally love the paranormal, ghost movie theme they’re going for. It matches old FNAF so well

  • @jackattack3429
    @jackattack3429 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    17:00 Holy shit you actually just described my rewrite lol. In my version of SB they have a museum, which is a recreation of the fnaf 1 stage room, but is filled with stuff from the past games (Minus things Faz Ent wouldnt want the public knowing about, like the funtimes or springlocks.) Also as for Vanny, in my own AU she actually is kind of a twisted personification of the fandom like you described. Shes basically a big theorist trying to learn everything about Faz Ent, and would even kill to get answers.

    • @jackattack3429
      @jackattack3429 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I actually wrote a scene which is basically my version of Freddy's "I am not me" scene which takes place in the museum. Basically Glamrock Freddy avoids the museum like a plague because he HATES the dark past that he's connected to, but during the events of the game he goes into it and ends up watching the FNaF 1 animatronics perform. This is where he finds himself and realizes he's his own person and not defined by what others make him out to be. From there he takes the hat and tie from classic freddy as a momento.

    • @lumikera
      @lumikera ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@jackattack3429Have you published it on any website? Sounds cool!

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว

      😶👌

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jackattack3429😶👏👏👏
      😶👌💛

    • @doyunou6833
      @doyunou6833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vanny is Matpat.

  • @xmegami5511
    @xmegami5511 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    "Why couldn't Vanny be based"
    -Chazington, 2023

  • @SwitchBamSpec
    @SwitchBamSpec ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Finally someone points out how boring the mimic is. If it’s just a robot copying William Afton then that means it has no motive and is doing all this (as well as mind controlling and forcing others to do this) for no reason other than “robot copies people but copies bad guy by mistake”

    • @anidiot192
      @anidiot192 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tbf William has no established motive either, like we know he wanted remnant but he only learned about that AFTER all of his murders so that can't be his motive. But imo it would've been a lot more interesting had they just made it so "Glitchtrap" was actually made by the Dev that Fazbear entertainment commissioned to make the FNaF games to get revenge for getting fucked over by Fazbear entertainment (and that "Glitchtrap" was actually called Malhare like they are in the files of Help Wanted.)

    • @asuraofwrath
      @asuraofwrath ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@anidiot192 theres at least something there his youngest son died because of his older son and his daughter died before that you can at least make something out for a motive hell even if he's just jealous of henrys success it made him lash out and then he learned how much he enjoys killing is better then that

    • @anidiot192
      @anidiot192 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@asuraofwrath the problem is that william's motive is not established, there's no canon reason why, there's no actual reason, you could just as reasonably say that William Afton is just a psychopath and not even he knows why he started killing. Like every motive we have is just speculation with nothing to actually go off of.

    • @definitiverandomvan
      @definitiverandomvan ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@anidiot192 real people kill just for the hell of it, why couldnt afton

    • @sicarius4749
      @sicarius4749 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      The literal only reason people were hyped about it was "Thank god they retconned reviving Afton". There was no actual hope for the mimic being interesting, they're just glad FNAF would no longer revive Afton every new installment, like other horror series.

  • @LightCrib2
    @LightCrib2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    17:27
    He screamed exactly like that one kid who turns blue and screams

    • @FoldFable
      @FoldFable ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, I think that was an alien in your class

    • @LightCrib2
      @LightCrib2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FoldFable
      Look up "kid turns blue and dies"

  • @nsebastian0272
    @nsebastian0272 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    At this point FNAF is just like “Afton? I thought you were dead.” “Not before I cloned myself!” 😎
    It’s getting ridiculous

    • @sumthinorother9615
      @sumthinorother9615 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I cloned the robot replica of my remnant possessed rabbit suit.
      (Half of this was actually illusions btw)

    • @thegreatandpowerfuldc5977
      @thegreatandpowerfuldc5977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mimic: Hold my beer

    • @GUNUFofficial
      @GUNUFofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's like that scene in the doctor who parody with rowan atkinson where the master keeps coming back from the sewers getting very old.

  • @Tuskbumper
    @Tuskbumper ปีที่แล้ว +380

    I'm glad someone else is realizing how all over the place the story is. While garnering a lot of theories, we have people reading the books and trying to figure out if the creator made pixels in a mini game look like one thing for a reason. It gets kinda frustrating

    • @Tuskbumper
      @Tuskbumper ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I want to add I'm NOT the biggest fan of the books are linked to the games thing and that was the mimic who the blob attacked, because honestly how was a game only person supposed to know that?

    • @boneman9751
      @boneman9751 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      What kills me about the plot is that it keeps going:
      Vanny and Vanessa are the same person… OR IS SHE?
      Vanny dies at the end of the game… OR DOES SHE?
      Afton is back… OR IS HE?
      Afton dies at the end of the game… OR DOES HE?
      I get that the entire fan base was built of speculation and theories but the whole damn game is a bunch of maybes. Nothing is concrete and we spend the whole game basically on an acid trip wondering if anything is actually happening.
      And yea, the fact that half the potentially important plot points are in the books and you wouldn’t know unless you spend hours reading them or watching recaps pisses me off too.

    • @areeba7045
      @areeba7045 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      i dont understand why scott can't just confirm something. like give at least one answer. why are people still speculating on the timeline when it's been almost a decade since this franchise started?? i think he just gave out too many questions for viewers to think about but ruined it by barely answering any of them or giving a clear confirmation in one of the games, or at least for me- everyone else seems to enjoy theorising and speculating but imo scott could've just confirmed or refuted more theories in the games instead of scattering everything in all his merch bc the lore had a lot of potential

    • @radioactivepower600nanaspersec
      @radioactivepower600nanaspersec ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@areeba7045He doesn't because not even he knows what the fuck is happening anymore

    • @cheti8544
      @cheti8544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be fair, the pixels in mini games already meant something important before

  • @jurplepacket114
    @jurplepacket114 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    the fact that this game has very positive reviews on steam and is generally had a positive reception is completely astonishing to me. I'm scared of the future of fnaf if the fans will eat up this slop off the floor and ask for more, when clearly something went horribly wrong that needs to be learned from.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Did you stop to wonder WHY they gave it positive reviews?

    • @sarilchowdhury3955
      @sarilchowdhury3955 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@dylansharp8471why?

    • @user-x7dc2pq7n
      @user-x7dc2pq7n ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@dylansharp8471 One word: bandwagon. Its a big issue now a days

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 ปีที่แล้ว

      shitty portal 2 fangame

    • @Wake.Up.
      @Wake.Up. ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sarilchowdhury3955it's because the largest voice in fnaf are the alphabet letters and furries who haven't grown up. It's true, they are so rabid and so childish that they threatened the creator and wanted him canceled for supporting Christian policies when they themselves uncovered it when it wasn't public knowledge. These people are parasites ruining all entertainment

  • @ultmateragnarok8376
    @ultmateragnarok8376 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    "The head of Springtrap being praised" this is exactly what I wanted from the game. You go down there and have to do whatever, and on the way you pass basically a shrine to what William became. Maybe it vanishes on the way back and it's left unclear whether it was taken or moved on its own. That's all he needed to be.

  • @NJzinho
    @NJzinho ปีที่แล้ว +85

    the milk had more screen time than vanny does

  • @tdmediums
    @tdmediums ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I swear to god, i thought people were being dramatic about Vannys misspotential, but looking back at the trailer, they hyped us up way too much. Her calling for gregory telling him that his friends are looking for him, pared with the fact hes one of the few missibg kids, implys that originally, he was ofc trying to escape vanny as she hunts him down, but instead, he just..stays when it closes? And barely even sees vanny? THIS IS ACTUALLY SUCH POOR WRITING ISTG

  • @SillyLilDawg
    @SillyLilDawg ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I think it’s both insanely funny and extremely sad that Vanny had more screentime in the S.B trailers than she ever did in the actual game.

  • @MorbyLol
    @MorbyLol ปีที่แล้ว +601

    I have got to be honest the only fun part in the game is the sun and moon part, the whole game should have been more like that where it's a small area where you have to complete a task while being pursued by an enemy with interesting mechanics sort of like the scrapped Roxy area but if it was good

    • @Scrungledungle
      @Scrungledungle ปีที่แล้ว +19

      tbh i played the day care section twice and not once did i even see moon, cool idea but i don’t think it was executed well

    • @Vinesus
      @Vinesus ปีที่แล้ว +75

      All 3 of these comments show the main issue with the gameplay of not only this segment, but the whole game: it’s terribly inconsistent

    • @Calamity25
      @Calamity25 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I like how what you described is what fnaf has technically always been in the past games, with the small area, being pursued and mechanics lol

    • @ilikerainbow.butimnotgay.4835
      @ilikerainbow.butimnotgay.4835 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Scrungledungle Joshu, my man, just wanted to say, you’re my favorite character of part 8.

    • @noobly_nuggets6186
      @noobly_nuggets6186 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this would definitely be better, fir would fit scott's atmosphere way better

  • @OxenbeeOG
    @OxenbeeOG 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Fun fact: According to a recent interview, Scott Cawthon quite literally didn't communicate the intended storyline to Steel Wool, so Chazington is right on Scott being responsible for alot of bad aspects of the game.

    • @vortiger7375
      @vortiger7375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bro legit isn't telling the fnaf lore to anyone not even his own team. He's keeping all that shit locked tight

    • @otho69AD
      @otho69AD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@vortiger7375 ​​⁠It's not even that he's keeping it locked up tight, he himself legitimately doesn't know the lore of his own franchise. He has literally been making it up as he's gone along with virtually no plan this entire time. But honestly, can't really fault him too much. Bro was convinced the first game would flop after all

    • @crashbandit0483
      @crashbandit0483 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@vortiger7375 well i mean he is now with ruin lol x3 learning from his mistakes it happens yknow we're all human

  • @stinkymcgee5739
    @stinkymcgee5739 ปีที่แล้ว +2404

    Pyrocynnical doesn’t deserve this much hate man

    • @thebig0opsyshow505
      @thebig0opsyshow505 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Real, I love that guy.

    • @leou0009
      @leou0009 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      Yes he does

    • @Iamactuallymarkiplier
      @Iamactuallymarkiplier ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@leou0009 no he doesn’t 💀

    • @BlueRGuy
      @BlueRGuy ปีที่แล้ว +438

      ​@@Iamactuallymarkiplier Simply being British is enough to hate him

    • @balkaba3927
      @balkaba3927 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      didnt he do like fat furry rp on discord, ik thats not a reason to hate him but definitely changed the description of who he was

  • @Danerade
    @Danerade ปีที่แล้ว +123

    My theory was an attempt to try to piece what seemed to be a change it direction with Vanny’s relevance and even character. Was she truly always the main character? Maybe not. But the real sticking point is that image with Vanessa AND Vanny in the same image. It just seems, a little weird. Obviously she was originally going to play a bigger role in some way (I don’t need to tell you that).
    Anyways great video! This was super funny and I laughed the whole way through.

    • @chazington1073
      @chazington1073  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Glad you found this, your videos are great, and even I’m doubting my theory now because it’s really hard to pinpoint what went wrong

    • @sheeveman7568
      @sheeveman7568 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paper bowser that u

  • @kiyopawn
    @kiyopawn ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "They were fans of serial killers in real life, why couldn't vanny be based of them?" EXACTLY, my intial thought was: "Oh shit, she's an Afton Groupie?" It would make so much sense if that were the case but it wasn't.

  • @noobly_nuggets6186
    @noobly_nuggets6186 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    biggest issue about SB is that it isn't a horror game, it's atmosphere and artstyle feel like if something as cutesy as fnaf world had the try-hardiness of fnaf 4.

  • @captainace8295
    @captainace8295 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    vanny truly is the fnaf character of all time.

    • @PancakemonsterFO4
      @PancakemonsterFO4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      A representation of the fandom as a whole and that it should die already

    • @lepidus2918
      @lepidus2918 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      dont worry, she'll get a spin-off novel (it will further contradict and destroy matpat's final theory)

  • @ryanstanley5259
    @ryanstanley5259 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    this is my favorite FNAF related video on TH-cam bro, I've already rewatched this multiple times and it never fails to make me laugh

    • @doyunou6833
      @doyunou6833 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is My 6th time watching this shit, it's just so good

  • @Platypus_Gaming_1
    @Platypus_Gaming_1 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I like the idea of Vanny being a sort of fangirl, perhaps she could've been a cult leader who glorified the killings of Afton, and influenced by Afton to go on her own killing spree.

    • @magicman3163
      @magicman3163 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I could’ve sworn I saw a cult idea before security breach like fazbear entertainment was a cult

    • @TaylorPhelan-rz7oh
      @TaylorPhelan-rz7oh 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I honestly wouldn't even mind if afton came back again, even if it is repetitive, as long as we had other antagonists that are just as well written as himself(at his best written, of course) to break the monotony of only having one villain. Maybe they could have even gone into more detail/lore as to how burntrap and glitchtrap are still around at all(maybe Afton was just a much more powerful spirit than the others, and when he was burned, his soul got ripped in half, with half of his soul being tortured in constant agony, and the other half of his soul possessing a circuitboard that was scanned in Help Wanted, only getting more powerful from the agony and remnant the other half of his soul is only stacking up more with Cassidy)I do agree, however, that Vanny should have gotten more screentime, and should've also been an actual main antagonist, like she was being hinted to be in Curse of Dreadbear DLC)

  • @AuthenticKale
    @AuthenticKale ปีที่แล้ว +151

    I feel like Vanny was that one "placeholder_main_antagonist" character that purely existed so the game had someone to cause trouble even though she was the most fucking confusing thing ever because she was underdeveloped

  • @metropunklitan
    @metropunklitan ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Not joking when i say this is one of my comfort videos. Everything about this is so perfect and lovely.

  • @radical7628
    @radical7628 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Fnaf lore has gone so far to the point they accidentally made the spiderman clone saga as one of the vanny endings and now they are going to probably retcon and return for years on end

    • @Vinesus
      @Vinesus ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Can’t wait for FNAF’s “One More Day” and FNAF Paul

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว

      😔😑😓👌👍👉

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Vinesus😞 🤦 👉

  • @M0mazosMissy
    @M0mazosMissy ปีที่แล้ว +270

    The sole presence of Vanny is the reason i hate Mimic all forced introduction and proliferation in the entire franchise
    It solely exists to keep Springtrap as the main villain without saying it is William

    • @Skibbutz
      @Skibbutz ปีที่แล้ว +32

      ​@@17denby actually the issue is the exact opposite of what you propose.
      You see, the Tales books were written all the way back in 2019 at the latest (the metadata for Lallys game's listing traces it back to 2019, however it could have been planned and written before 2019 and just not officially listed until then)
      Meaning the Mimic storyline was planned from minute Scott and Steel Wool conceptualized Security breach.
      In the books the Mimic has thus far been extremely disconnected from afton, and is it's own thing entirely only tangentially related to him in a single line of dialogue which suggests the Mimic witnessed the MCI.
      So while everyone is saying that the Story of the books were written to appease angry fans over the story of the games
      In actuality it appears that the games story was done the way it was specifically to appease fans angry about the Books lore reveals!
      The problem is that Scott and Steel wool are basically hiding the Mimic behind an Afton themed curtain, because they think he needs to be propped up by the previous villans recognizability in order to be successful.
      But the way they've chosen to do that just made the problem worse because now theres an enormous disconnect between how the SB and HW treat the mimic (afton poser) and how the Tales treats the mimic (Terminator with an appreciation for Cosplay)
      I think we should hold off entirely on trying to judge the Mimic storyline and blame all the issues on this character until AFTER ruin.
      We need to see if the extremely positive reaction to the Mimic allows scott to stop thinking the Mimic has to just be Afton 2.0, or if he continues to treat him as such

    • @SophisticatedArc
      @SophisticatedArc ปีที่แล้ว +39

      the mimic has literally no buildup and is never mentioned in the series. also why WOULD the mimic exist.

    • @ducadionisio
      @ducadionisio ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I don't even think the Mimic is a bad idea for a villain but they just could've done it with Vanny since the start and not fumbled so much

    • @17denby
      @17denby ปีที่แล้ว

      Okay..

    • @17denby
      @17denby ปีที่แล้ว

      IMO

  • @asdfsadfasdfasdfasdf4180
    @asdfsadfasdfasdfasdf4180 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    im so obsessed with this video. it scratches a specific itch in my brain. it entered my mental list of videos i watch over and over again for no reason. ive watched this 5 times already.

  • @aslightlystablefootsoldier9838
    @aslightlystablefootsoldier9838 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    One grip I have is her Bunny suit.
    Before we had the merch leak that gave her outfit away, people were thinking she was going to be wearing normal clothing like hoodies and sweaters. Normal teenager stuff which in my opinion it would’ve been cool. It would’ve outed her as a invader and seem more human instead of looking literally like a furry

    • @fizzydrinkuno
      @fizzydrinkuno ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I’m sorry but that would've given off creepypasta OC vibes and that would have made me piss laugh honestly

    • @noviibutnotactive8385
      @noviibutnotactive8385 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@fizzydrinkuno I think the whole idea of Vanny being a creepypasta/serial killer fangirl turned rabid would actually be really funny but also better than what we got lmao

    • @jevil_owo
      @jevil_owo ปีที่แล้ว +18

      In my fnaf lore rewrite thing Vanny's literally just doing a half assed closet cosplay of her fnaf self insert OC, which she invented to ship with Springtrap. She's definitely a rabid creepypasta fangirl type, I literally named her Nina after Nina the Killer
      Meanwhile, Vanessa is a separate character and she's trying to help Gregory (she's bad at it)

    • @blueflamingskulljpeg
      @blueflamingskulljpeg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

    • @brianco28
      @brianco28 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i think it's better for her to have her deviantart william afton oc. my only gripe is that it looks too professional. like i wish that shit was broken and torn and looked like a total fucking mess

  • @solarfiringtiger4254
    @solarfiringtiger4254 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    19:30 imagine some random guy walking around the area and seeing some dude dumping a gallon of milk onto a rabbit plushie

  • @Hatster985
    @Hatster985 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I know what the joke is supposed to be, but you just covering Vanny in milk is hilarious by itself

    • @TheVCRKing
      @TheVCRKing ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Plot twist: That's not milk...

  • @TheKillerMoth
    @TheKillerMoth ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Dude your idea of a FNAF museum makes so much sense.
    In game when near all the animatronic rooms there are glass cases with animatronic parts and merchandise.
    And some of it's missing so that would just make so much sense.

  • @lillovingsoul
    @lillovingsoul ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The way this is edited legit made me cry laughing several times
    As a veteran fnaf fan - this is so awesome, amazing job, and thank you for sharing your thoughts!

  • @Ryebreadtoasted
    @Ryebreadtoasted ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I really love the idea of Vanessa having Hybristophilia, loving and being a fan girl of a serial killer. She gets so inspired by peepaw willies actions that she wanted to idk recreate the crimes? or like follow in his footsteps?? an idea for like why she applied to freddy's and made a bunny suit like the one Willy would wear. I hated the idea of William coming back as a fucking computer virus, infecting Vanessa, and then coming back as burntrap. I know his whole shtick is he always comes back, but please, we need a new villain for the fnaf series, and Vanny could have been so much more.

  • @tetankdank1599
    @tetankdank1599 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I have a simple solution to the missuse of vanny. Remake the game feom the ground up. Smaller map, better story, bring back the knife, and afton is non existant in the game. My personal fix would be to set up the game like a save them minigame where there are children in the plex, however Gregory is the only one left alive and has to run away from Vanny. Another idea could be as the lights dim, Freddy becoming the last enemy to join. Mabey have it to where teaming up with Freddy is optional. Idk anything about making video games, but I wish I did.

    • @sethisevilone02
      @sethisevilone02 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly the ruin dlc looks like what you described
      Hopefully ruin can fix the lore and help wanted 2 can put the franchise back on track
      We can only hope

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😶👌

  • @thatsastick13
    @thatsastick13 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    The story of Security Breach oddly reminds me of Scream 5.
    Both had the potential to put a new spin on the formula utilizing new characters. However, both failed after relying too heavily on tropes of the past - resulting in a feeling of disconnect to the actual new ideas.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought people liked Scream 5.

    • @thatsastick13
      @thatsastick13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dylansharp8471
      Well I sure didn’t

    • @diocesesius88
      @diocesesius88 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Funny how you mentioned scream her character reminds me of Ghostface. Except she’s a poorly written character with no motive 😂

  • @justinnutter9008
    @justinnutter9008 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "oogie boogie bag of remnant" is one of my new favorite sentences

  • @kingbash6466
    @kingbash6466 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Man, I was really hyped for what they could have done with Vanny after Help Wanted, and the trailers implied that she would have been a major player in the story and gameplay. Sucks to learn that she basically was treated about as well as a glorifier cameo.

  • @boomboom6410
    @boomboom6410 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    Legit Security Breach pissed me off so much! It seemed like such an easy W for Scott and Steel Wool. They had the perfect set up of a new antagonist, new animatronics, a new location, and the converting of the FNAF formula to a 3D environment! It was leading up to be a simple soft reboot of the franchise and they fumbled SO HARD! All they needed to do was create a fun game with a basic enough plot, sprinkle some bits of lore, and have Vanny do literally anything of worth but NOPE! It would've been easy money but of course they had to get WAAYYY too ambitious and feel the need to cram a reference to everything single FNAF media possible! I genuinely hate how much some people have defended this game by saying that fans were rushing this game out and that we set our expectations too high! No we didn't, at every possible chance they had Scott and Steel Wool kept hyping up this game to an ungodly amount. They could've stopped after a year and a half of development but they kept adding stuff with no foresight of what that would entail. I still love FNAF but wow this game is garbage!

    • @Thedoorway123
      @Thedoorway123 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      It's not garbage it's literally a cremated corpse

    • @jarguint3784
      @jarguint3784 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Thedoorway123Like Afton himself.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thedoorway123
      Bullshit.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, well excuse people for wanting to defend something.

  • @x___________________
    @x___________________ ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Having Afton do a joker and make him have copy cat killers would’ve been a nice plot imo. Kinda like a joker afton becomes an “idea” and even tho he’s dead many people want to carry on his will and kill kids would’ve been cool

  • @b0b8651-t
    @b0b8651-t ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Vanny got more screen time in the trailers than in the actual game

  • @Wolfmansgeneralchannel
    @Wolfmansgeneralchannel ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I seem to recall almost 2 years ago when SB came out that steel wool had said the reason vanny barely appeared was due to an actual bug, which you’d think they’d remedy at some point, HOWEVER, ruin is around the corner, Help wanted 2 is coming the end of this year, and we’ve only had maybe 1 update for the game this year. And it was for the Xbox port

    • @fez9439
      @fez9439 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It wasn't a bug, people thought it was a bug because they found an unused Vanny meter, but Ray later clarified they intentionally took away the function of the Vanny meter because it tied into something that went unused (most likely Survival Mode)

    • @Wolfmansgeneralchannel
      @Wolfmansgeneralchannel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fez9439 okay but I wasn’t referring to the vanny meter, I meant specifically her not showing up more in the game via scripted events

    • @fez9439
      @fez9439 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Wolfmansgeneralchannel I mean in that case I don't really think they ever said anything about that
      And if they did they did fix it if it was around the time SB released, because at least one of Vanny's encounters DID sometimes bug when SB released so she didn't appear, the February patch fixed that though, or at least made that bug way less common

    • @Wolfmansgeneralchannel
      @Wolfmansgeneralchannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fez9439 not really, as the only fixes they added were to the (and I refuse to even call it this) Vanny Boss Battle where she now teleports to your location depending on where you’re at when you reach her hideout in Fazerblast, I stood in the middle of that bridge for a solid 10 minutes waiting for Vanny to follow me up the stairs, NADDA was going on, and she still has some bugs going on still

  • @meltingwaffles
    @meltingwaffles ปีที่แล้ว +15

    12:46 i genuinely thought this was glamrock chica talking before this video

  • @suarez9108
    @suarez9108 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I’ve watched every single Game Theory on FNAF and I don’t remember ONCE MatPat saying that Burntrap is the Mimic. That’s not even confusing anymore it’s paradoxical.

    • @linxas6177
      @linxas6177 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Well matpat say its a game theory so it not always true

    • @user-mz9xo3hx1h
      @user-mz9xo3hx1h ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Matpat isn't always correct

    • @lepidus2918
      @lepidus2918 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​​​@@user-mz9xo3hx1hnot if Scott had anything to say about it, AND HE DID

    • @Phobie_2000
      @Phobie_2000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He literally did in his latest theory lol.

    • @mrlaz9011
      @mrlaz9011 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      if mental gymnastics was a sport matpat would steal 1st place everytime.

  • @boneman9751
    @boneman9751 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    The thing about fnaf lore that’s such a big problem is that no one wants to confirm anything meaningful. The fact that in literally the beginning of the video, we are able to call out the fact that we don’t even know if the first protagonist is important or not shows the lack of confidence in the plot.

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ ปีที่แล้ว +11

      They don't confirm anything just in case they want to change something in the story in a way that doesn't technically make it a retcon.

    • @dylansharp8471
      @dylansharp8471 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullshit.

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@_V.Va_That's still wrong and it didn't help because many many things have changed anyway, and they haven't answered almost nothing...

  • @XOFInfantryman
    @XOFInfantryman ปีที่แล้ว +24

    0:05 Yooo
    Its crazy how you got ambatukam himself to help you with those special effects 🤯🤯🤯

  • @dynamicsavi
    @dynamicsavi ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I've never been so invested in a fictional, borderline immortal family's drama 💀

  • @vibecheck2787
    @vibecheck2787 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The fact that she attacks you by aggressively dancing like the fucking disco zombie from pvz makes this character impossible to treat seriously

  • @captain_duck0o084
    @captain_duck0o084 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    15:24 I've been caught off guard

  • @AdaTheWatcher
    @AdaTheWatcher ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Glitchtrap could have been so cool too.
    Imagine instead of bringing him back they made the glitchtrap virus spread. And we had like a whole gang of serial killers.
    You could even make it interesting and make these people be egainst eachother.
    I mean like, people who aren't prone to violence won't be effected by it.
    But people like vanny who are already kinda whacky become crazies.

  • @froggiepie
    @froggiepie ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I was SO hyped for vanny and she ended up being such a let down. also i had never thought of the crazed fan idea but now I wish that had actually happened that would have been so epic

  • @TheIdiotChihuahua
    @TheIdiotChihuahua ปีที่แล้ว +42

    A stealth Part where you hide from vanny as she says what she says at 12:44 would’ve been so cool. Like why can’t vanny be sorta stealthy . I think it would be cool if like throughout the game she’s constantly stalking you, like you could see her hiding in the corner of the eye or watching you from another part of the pizza plex. Like she’s playing with her food, mocking Gregory, hunting him till she gets bored of the chase. If you wanna make that part of the character. It would’ve made for a more engaging experience and story and given vanny the overlying role she deserved as the main villain. Like maybe at the beginning she only really stalks Gregory, analyzing his every move, mainly letting the animatronics hopefully take care of him. (Like maybe Gregory was looking into the disappearance of his friends and is digging too deep) like after you beat Chica Roxy and Monty maybe that’s when she finally starts to hunt you. I think it would be cool if like as you destroy the animatronics, vanny starts to interfere even more (maybe activates new enemies or drains Freddy’s battery, or block off certain areas for a bit (like really only like 30 secs cus any longer seems stupid) this is just me spitballing but what does everyone else think? Like how would you guys incorporate vanny to be a bigger character but also be enjoyable and be an actual threat and villain

  • @originalnamehere470
    @originalnamehere470 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Y’know before the game came out, I thought both Vanessa and Gregory (who’s existence was leaked due to Funko again, thanks for that Funko) were both going to be the main protagonists as this sort of Sonic Unleashed Day/Night gameplay. Where we played as both Gregory who would explore the Pizzaplex at day with Glamrock Freddy and as Vanessa who would do nightguard duties and to make sure the animatronics aren’t going haywire, y’know shit like that.

  • @kingkat7113
    @kingkat7113 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Bro I hate security breach for so many reasons but vanny is what disappointed me the most I was so excited to see her character and how she would be done and she was only in 3 scenes

  • @boldsquid8940
    @boldsquid8940 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    7:22 bro that's just a baby peter griffin laughing.

  • @locosword3985
    @locosword3985 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I only read the title and this is already telling me Chazington is about to preach and go hard.

  • @Mystic_Mayhem
    @Mystic_Mayhem ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Besides SB itself, the pouring milk on vanny thing is the best joke in this video

  • @salt_factory7566
    @salt_factory7566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Some type of Oogie Boogie Vanny where you rip the suit off and it's just some goop, bugs, or nothing would actually be more interesting and creepy than what we got.

  • @theman6422
    @theman6422 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I liked the story of fnaf for a long time, cuz despite not knowing EVERYTHING, we got more pieces to the puzzle through each installment. It was like watching an on-going crime scene, figuring out what truly happened as time went on. Thats why pizza sim’s ending was so great; we got all the information, all we had to do was end it all. It was an actually interesting plot that was put together through Scott’s clues.
    Then security breach came out and that gave me a headache.

  • @Zeno2806
    @Zeno2806 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I don't even care about FNAF anymore but your videos are way too entertaining

    • @marc7248
      @marc7248 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your profile pic from?

    • @Zeno2806
      @Zeno2806 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marc7248 th-cam.com/video/4fBo2NooAqk/w-d-xo.html

  • @KatrinaWasHere_
    @KatrinaWasHere_ ปีที่แล้ว +23

    14:33 i read this as "i dont like the effects this had on society"

  • @alexandredasilvavilasboasrosas
    @alexandredasilvavilasboasrosas ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A WOMAN DRESSED AS A BUNNY??
    INTO THE JAR SHE GOES THEN

    • @bloopahVIII
      @bloopahVIII ปีที่แล้ว +3

      NONONONO
      WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT

  • @maravreloaded
    @maravreloaded ปีที่แล้ว +18

    13:00 Yeah true.
    Vanny from the trailers: massive book meme, skeleton explaining meme.
    Vanny from the game: *_ARE U HAVIN FUN YET?_*

  • @Patolagos
    @Patolagos ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It would of been cool if we played as Vanessa and we just had to follow ourself the whole game without knowing, but oh well, Gregory exists.

    • @BLASTERX-nz5lk
      @BLASTERX-nz5lk ปีที่แล้ว

      😔😞😑😓🤦👌👍 👉

  • @Kelpflakes
    @Kelpflakes ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I dont care about the plot I care about the Vanny vs Vanessa cup size difference theory

  • @barnthedarnsaur4386
    @barnthedarnsaur4386 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "I want Vanny to be a crazed fan-girl."
    - That one episode of Fazbear & Friends by EnchantedMob about that exact description

    • @balkaba3927
      @balkaba3927 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      enxhantedmod is so cursed man

  • @randostreams5855
    @randostreams5855 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Disassemble Freddy is fucking hilarious

  • @didu173
    @didu173 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You became my favourite youtuber in less than a month i swear every upload is perfect keep up the content

  • @PriestOfTheHelix
    @PriestOfTheHelix ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video feels like Chazington was drunk off his ass the entire time and that fits perfectly with someone trying to explain anything about the fnaf series.