2024 Mazda CX-90 vs Hyundai Palisade - Worth the $10k Difference?

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  • @TheStraightPipes
    @TheStraightPipes  ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Shopping for a Mazda CX-90 or Hyundai Palisade? Check out tsp.truecar.com for discounted price offers!

    • @MyAlexWest
      @MyAlexWest ปีที่แล้ว +6

      good one!!!
      dont need new ugly X7 against mercedes!

    • @jasonrebelo181
      @jasonrebelo181 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1st of 3 great vehicles to come :) Yuri definitely will be ordering a 70 next year.

    • @carlosovalle6165
      @carlosovalle6165 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Does the Mazda have a heads-up display? Does the Mazda have heated third row seats?? Does the Mazda have USB ports on the third row??? Does the Mazda have cooled second row seats???? If the Mazda doesn't have all of those then the Palisade wins with its quirks and features.

    • @___asd159gh43
      @___asd159gh43 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The mazda is starting to look dated, now.

    • @darek816
      @darek816 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carlosovalle6165 Yes to all

  • @NiagaraWeddingVideographer
    @NiagaraWeddingVideographer ปีที่แล้ว +1040

    It’s amazing that in this day and age, we are calling a $63,000 vehicle affordable.

    • @turbinator1990
      @turbinator1990 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      For a full size 3-row SUV that is the price to pay, about $46,000 USD

    • @NiagaraWeddingVideographer
      @NiagaraWeddingVideographer ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@turbinator1990 which is just crazy. Typically it’s not a direct conversion though. The comparable car is usually a bit more in the U.S. when taking into account conversion. A 63k vehicle in CAD is probably more like 50-53k USD even though if we are just looking at it from a currency perspective it should be 46k USD.

    • @SothyRSem
      @SothyRSem ปีที่แล้ว +38

      As much as its amazing to say 16$/h wage is the minimum wage nowadays. Gotta put things in perspective eh?

    • @WhiteBueno
      @WhiteBueno ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My thought exactly 😂

    • @WhiteBueno
      @WhiteBueno ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@NiagaraWeddingVideographer The Mazda website says $59,950 American for the top trim though

  • @cjdacka
    @cjdacka ปีที่แล้ว +286

    Mazda already wins in my books due to being on a Rear Wheel Drive Platform compared to a Front Wheel Drive one (like that of the Palisade)

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  ปีที่แล้ว +36

      It handles incredibly well

    • @user_jshkdbsms
      @user_jshkdbsms ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheStraightPipes which one?

    • @nandernugget
      @nandernugget ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@user_jshkdbsms the Mazda obviously lol

    • @John-kx3ng
      @John-kx3ng ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The Mazda is premium, the Hyundai not so much.

    • @MLProductions.1
      @MLProductions.1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yup. Wouldnt even consider fwd

  • @dil6969
    @dil6969 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    I used to be in the camp of "wtf no android auto touch available in motion?" However, after a couple months of using the rotary dial for all my inputs in my 2017 Mazda 3, it's my preferred input method. No ugly, greasy fingerprints all over the screen, and I've got my muscle memory established to the point where I rarely look at the screen, even for firing up navigation for saved destinations. I don't think I've touched the screen once in over a year, even if the car's parked.

    • @Jmort93
      @Jmort93 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Same with BMW. Once you get used to the rotary it’s much more intuitive and feels more natural navigating the interface. I didn’t consider the fingerprints issue until you mentioned it!

    • @justSomeUserOnYT
      @justSomeUserOnYT ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Yeah the controls for the infotainment in Mazda has been and always will be superior to touch in 9/10 scenarios.
      The only time a touchscreen is superior is if you're parked, or if a passenger is changing something. But when driving it's useless and much more distracting.

    • @mbyte84
      @mbyte84 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wrong take 😮

    • @kens8903
      @kens8903 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same thoughts after a month into owning my cx50

    • @ChristianC-gy1ym
      @ChristianC-gy1ym ปีที่แล้ว +3

      6nice try bud. the bottom line for you is that you had to rationalize and go through the learning curve, to retrain yourself to accept that you don't have a choice and are forced to using the dial.... fact is the dial is just as distracting as the touch screen. you can slice and dice this argument all day, but it all boils down to you having to glance at the screen no matter which system you have.

  • @wil318466
    @wil318466 ปีที่แล้ว +201

    When you have kids and take a lot of road trips, the space matters. I've 2 MDXs over the last 10 years and it's for sure a nice vehicle but we always felt cramped in it. The pallisade feels huge, and the space makes everyone more comfortable. We absolutely love it.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yep. If you really need a three row SUV, the CX90 doesn't make much sense. One of the worst in class from a practicality standpoint.

    • @_M....
      @_M.... ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@plmn93 yea idk what Mazda is thinking, they're focused too much on the engine and rear wheel drive platform. the practicality of the CX-90 is disappointing. just too tight inside for a 3 row family hualer.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@_M.... That's why my local Mazda dealer has three CX-90s in stock while Palisades, Tellurides, and Pilots have waiting lists.

    • @Gamebreaker08
      @Gamebreaker08 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      if you really need space, get a toyota Sienna, all the room you could ever want for under 40k. You just have to drive a minivan, but you'll save 20K simply because it's uncool.

    • @ichbinshaltne
      @ichbinshaltne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love the Sienna!

  • @sammyg4806
    @sammyg4806 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    Mazda might finally be in that Acura/Infinity/Lexus category with this one. Incredible interior.

    • @John-kx3ng
      @John-kx3ng ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yes no comparison to a Hyundai.

    • @sammyg4806
      @sammyg4806 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@John-kx3ng Mazda has been pushing hard to eliminate that “Mazda is budget” image for years now. Their cars definitely look and feel like they can compete with anything from the aforementioned Japanese makers.
      Hyundai has done a better job than Toyota in their latest cars, but they have the Genesis brand, so a lot of the premium materials and engines are going to that brand instead. Mazda is definitely a tier above.

    • @uniquelypositive
      @uniquelypositive ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I would put it above Acura and Infiniti and perhaps even Lexus

    • @ElGrueso
      @ElGrueso ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@uniquelypositive Mazda luxury? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @GC-kk4et
      @GC-kk4et ปีที่แล้ว

      @@uniquelypositivelol only Mazda fans think it’s above Lexus and Acura. Mazda is for Uber drivers and car rental companies

  • @danielgillrup9518
    @danielgillrup9518 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I have a 2021 Palisade Limited I got for 48k out the door with a lifetime warranty back in 2020. It’s a fantastic car and truly intend to keep it for a couple decades with the warranty.

    • @zniperaa9865
      @zniperaa9865 ปีที่แล้ว

      What items are included in the lifetime warranty? This service is not provided in South Korea. I am really curious about it.

    • @danielgillrup9518
      @danielgillrup9518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zniperaa9865 I'm pretty sure everything, its a $100 deductible. I also believe it's dealership specific, not cooperate

    • @MrMike-fi7kd
      @MrMike-fi7kd ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@danielgillrup9518that dealer lied to close the deal. They will not be fixing it for just $100 for decades

    • @DerekJamesMandy
      @DerekJamesMandy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That price with “Lifetime warranty”. Yeah that didn’t happen lol. why do people who buy cars spend so much time weaving unrealistic purchase deals and leave out all context, such as if there was a trade. Just to enjoy your car, no one cares about your fictional magic deal …it doesn’t make your vehicle any cooler. The palisades starts at 57k now before all the fees and taxes. You didn’t get just 10k worth in discounts the dealership would be well into the negative. Get real.

    • @RK-fh4bp
      @RK-fh4bp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DerekJamesMandyMust be “forgetting” that he probably had $20k trade equity or cash down to get that out the door price

  • @theguard1
    @theguard1 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    I went with the CX-90 GT with the lower 280hp/332lb-ft engine for the better fuel economy (not using premium) while not sacrificing many features from the top trim but saving $10k. I'm good with that.

    • @differencemaker242
      @differencemaker242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How many kids u got sir?

    • @keytothegate68
      @keytothegate68 ปีที่แล้ว

      That engine only has about 25 HP. More than what you get with Mazda 50 turbo which runs on four bangers.

    • @evoviiiyou831
      @evoviiiyou831 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is exactly what I did too

    • @campanozzi55
      @campanozzi55 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. The 280 is enough for me & the family

    • @Topnikko
      @Topnikko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@keytothegate68 But the inline 6 is a much better engine for the more upscale, heavier car.

  • @sav5127
    @sav5127 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I honestly absolutely love the paint on the Mazda. But each to their own i guess

    • @haterskeephatin101
      @haterskeephatin101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's like a mystic purple

    • @DudeMcGuybro
      @DudeMcGuybro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But I wonder how it would fade over time, being in the harsher climates up north it might look really bad in a few years.

  • @TheSnarkMusic
    @TheSnarkMusic ปีที่แล้ว +381

    Yuri went so fast in that Palisade, it put hair on his face.

    • @NumbahEleven
      @NumbahEleven ปีที่แล้ว +8

      😂🧔🏻‍♂️

    • @thomaschristopherwhite9043
      @thomaschristopherwhite9043 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lol! That is some goofy sh*t right there.

    • @TaylorYangOrDie
      @TaylorYangOrDie ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol😂

    • @kdomster9141
      @kdomster9141 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Until the corner came and there went the grin.... 😂

    • @mbowen
      @mbowen ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I wanted them to cut back to Jakub with a soul patch

  • @MrPsalms207
    @MrPsalms207 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I use the Blindspot cameras in my Tucson ALL THE TIME! I have 3 vehicles, and the other 2 are not Hyundai/Kia, and I find myself looking at my gauge cluster everytime I throw on the turn signal. And then I'm like, "Oh yea, it doesn't have that." 😞 So, yes, there are those of us who LOVE the blindspot camera feature. I literally wish EVERY vehicle had that feature.

    • @loconius
      @loconius ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too! I find them handy when the sun is blinding me from the side!

    • @justindavies9934
      @justindavies9934 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a telluride and it’s probably my number one feature that I look for in a new vehicle. I used to drive a mazda3 and I absolutely loved it, in fact I cried when we traded it in lol but I MAY sacrifice the blind spot cameras for the driving experience of the Mazda.
      *edit to say I’m on my husbands account*

    • @MrPsalms207
      @MrPsalms207 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justindavies9934 lol... It's ok, dude. Don't be ashamed to cry, my man. Lol. J/j... Lol

  • @Cali_12024
    @Cali_12024 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Hands down to mazda cx90 beautiful suv inside and out and ofcourse the driving dynamics is awesome! Mazda cx90 can compete with the luxury suv like bmw and accura

  • @MartinStockel-k6f
    @MartinStockel-k6f ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I drive a 2023 Hyundai Palisade and just love it. 23,000 plus miles and zero problems. The engine has plenty of power to move the car when full of people and luggage. The Mazda engine would be a nice option for the Palisade.

    • @jacobforwood300
      @jacobforwood300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're only at 23k. Hyundai's and Kia's fail around 50-60k. 6 million fires and counting.
      Your time hasn't come yet, my friend. Be patient. It will inevitably fail.

    • @MartinStockel-k6f
      @MartinStockel-k6f ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jacobforwood300 My Palisade will out last you!

    • @KarthikKesiraju
      @KarthikKesiraju ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I have 23 palisade, it is very good . I had 2016 sonata even that was so great . Hyundai used to be a cheap company back 15 or 20 years ago but now , they improved leaps and bounds .

    • @MartinStockel-k6f
      @MartinStockel-k6f ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KarthikKesiraju Happy you are enjoying your Palisade!

    • @セトラキアン-n2r
      @セトラキアン-n2r ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KarthikKesiraju
      A car that just copied the design of another company. A Hyundai car without commitment and pride is worthless.

  • @doggedlydetermined7022
    @doggedlydetermined7022 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Mazda is a huge step up from the Hyundai in terms of brand and appeal. Worth it for that alone

    • @kfx3907
      @kfx3907 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @John-kx3ng
      @John-kx3ng ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Exactly, this comparison is a crime.

    • @spilot1016
      @spilot1016 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      100% No matter how good the candy wrapper is, Hyundai (and KIA, for that matter) are still no match to Japs... especially engineering-wise

    • @alex99398
      @alex99398 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@spilot1016 Maybe for ICE vehicles...but for EVs, Koreans have the edge in 2023. Whether that continues in the future, we'll see but it's been an absolute disaster for Toyota / Subaru EVs from the get go.. I've driven primarily Japanese vehicles, but my next SUV will probably be a Genesis EV..

    • @alex99398
      @alex99398 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm a Mazda SUV owner and disagree with this. Mazda is not all that desirable and they're going to get stomped on by Lexus / Acura and likely even Genesis. $63k for a Mazda SUV is going to be a tough proposition for many. As an entusiast, there's no way I would ever trade my CX-5 for the CX-90, even though I could afford to do so. $50k-ish is a sweet spot and above this, I'm going with lux name plates. Pretty sure most would follow suit. More than anything, the wonky hybrid powertrain is a deal breaker, fuel efficiency be damned..

  • @AmanRajput01
    @AmanRajput01 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Being a cx5 and Mazda 3 owner I couldn’t relate to Jacob’s complaints at all 😂 except the third row room. I was expected a solo review of the cx90 tho 😮

  • @CM-le4yh
    @CM-le4yh ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Mazda brand image is so much better than Hyundai, even Hyundai's newest cars didn't have any logo on the steering wheel because apparently they want the interior to feel upscaled but the Hyundai logo just didn't cut it.

    • @adriannalundasan7570
      @adriannalundasan7570 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They didn’t want to fool you cheaply though, like calling their CVT transmission with IVT. 😂

    • @RRLV434
      @RRLV434 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Hyundai logo their using in their electric cars is 4 dots which is Morse code I believe for H

  • @chazzcombs
    @chazzcombs ปีที่แล้ว +116

    I bought my Palisade to be a road trip machine and it excels in that. Very comfortable and lots of space. Not perfect, but worth the $.

    • @xxk4rilsxx
      @xxk4rilsxx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What year? And reliability issues?

    • @TaijiArban
      @TaijiArban ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When you say not perfect, what do you find it lacking in that would make it perfect for you?

    • @scoopaway9176
      @scoopaway9176 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@xxk4rilsxx ten year warranties same with telluride. I've owned mazda's and they always broke in four years and had no warranties 😂.

    • @Broba_Fett
      @Broba_Fett ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One reason why I want a Telluride. Want to take my family on lots of road trips.

    • @pumpernickelstickybottoms5081
      @pumpernickelstickybottoms5081 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@scoopaway9176 mazda is basically an entirely new company after 2014. QC has gone way up on their cars, and good luck getting your warranty honored lmao

  • @Jmort93
    @Jmort93 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Hearing from an engineer familiar with the Mazda transmission, it’s a conventional transmission with an internal clutch pack serving as the “wet clutch”. He claims this possibly limits the ability to launch from a standstill, and also makes it incredibly complex to modulate as it’s acting as a torque converter at a standstill, needing to prevent rollback but also engage on demand. Hopefully it was engineered for reliability…

    • @ferdelance7474
      @ferdelance7474 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well, it's been the same transmission style in the Mazda 6-speed for years. And they have been decently reliable. Hopefully the new 8-speed is the same.

    • @thomasbezak1090
      @thomasbezak1090 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      AFAIK it uses the mild hybrid electric motor to launch and then handoff to the clutch. There is no torque converter so it cant move the vehicle from a standstill without the electric motor.

    • @i0001w
      @i0001w ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This system should be more reliable but uses the electric motor to smooth it operation. Like Mercedes they have similar gearbox now

    • @Yogi5D
      @Yogi5D ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thomasbezak1090 sounds like a better more reliable system then since the electric motor will take the most pressure by initiating movement from standstill. This should be standard imo

    • @fahmidnd2
      @fahmidnd2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      isnt that the same style they used for the 6 speed? my 2021 mazda 3 has 140k yes it sucks from a standstill, but its been flawless so far. most of the driving is city driving to. unlimited KM powertrain warranty for 5 years.

  • @bakechef781
    @bakechef781 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I'm team rotary knob. I recently bought a CX-5 and wasn't sure how I'd feel about it, but after just a month I can do pretty much everything without looking by counting clicks!

    • @Rtd2870
      @Rtd2870 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In another review vid I learned there’s a deep menu setting that enables touch screen.

    • @louisbarningham
      @louisbarningham ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same, they are amazing to use😊

    • @akgonen60
      @akgonen60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same i know what and where every click will take me and with seconds i can get where i want do what i want and then enjoy the ride im rotary clicker ALL DAY skrew the touch skreen that was increfibly annoying to be honest

  • @canadiancissp
    @canadiancissp ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Mazda wins, no question. Way more power and better fuel economy. Much better driving dynamics. Fantastic front row / cabin. The "Calligraphy" trim of the Palisade is expensive (very close in price to the CX90), and now it looks so basic, so if you pay almost the same, why accept less?

  • @blakee9690
    @blakee9690 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had a CX-5…There’s definitely a learning curve to the Mazda infotainment system….but once you figure it out, it’s pretty intuitive.

  • @crashjose
    @crashjose ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Pallisade is FWD while the CX90 is a RWD with a 6 in line, that compromise the interior, also the propeller shaft and diff in the rear

  • @icantgivecredit871
    @icantgivecredit871 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't want bold and aggressive. The Mazda looks so fine and elegant, it looks like an early-mid 2000s car with subtle refinements. What a great design inside and out!

  • @joshua.harazin
    @joshua.harazin ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:48 In Hyundais you can just lock the doors at any point. As long as you have the smartkey with you, the trunk will still open, and then when you close it it'll be locked again.

  • @jraheemjefcoat429
    @jraheemjefcoat429 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    If i was the driver, I take the CX-90. If i was a passenger, Palisade hands down for more room and comfort!

    • @ayushmalpeddi2793
      @ayushmalpeddi2793 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly this. 90% if people here might want the CX-90 for its I6, RWD, turbo, including myself. But we are such a small percentage (less than 5%) of new car buyers. Most would prefer the Palisade for its extra few features, and especially space/carrying capacity.

    • @Jmort93
      @Jmort93 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good opinion. I bet most people would agree with this if they are driving enthusiasts

    • @aaronj5573
      @aaronj5573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But the driver buys the vehicle 😉

    • @zogadwoe
      @zogadwoe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@aaronj5573 and the passengers help you keep it 😅 especially if you have a partner and kids 😊

    • @jraheemjefcoat429
      @jraheemjefcoat429 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@zogadwoe As a single man, I go with the CX-90 for driving performance. If I have a family, I will go with the Palisade. Preferably the Caligraphy trim.

  • @tigerjonn
    @tigerjonn ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I noticed Mazdas are always smaller than the competition and not as comfortable... They look good, and seems like the interior is more designed for looks rather than comfort.... I noticed the same theme for almost all the Mazda cars...

    • @stacyvang2760
      @stacyvang2760 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a Mazda. It interior is lacking compared to other brands but I LOVE the way it drives. Very sporty! I’ll stick with Mazda for that reason.

  • @larkt6693
    @larkt6693 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I rather the Mazda .. luxurious & will last way longer than that Hyundai

    • @tmo2798
      @tmo2798 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      WAY LONGER.

    • @nullravager
      @nullravager 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'd rather have the mazda, too, for the driving experience. But the Hyundai isn't too bad! I've had a 2016 maxcruz and put over 200k miles on it. the only caveat, tho is you can't drive for 20 hours continuously on a hot day. I live in saudi arabia so it reaches 50c over here.

  • @JimmyXie
    @JimmyXie ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Saw a lot of people here trying to decide between the telluride, Highlander and the CX-90. It’s simple, if interior space is your priority, CX-90 would lose every time, as it was never designed to be a minivan alternative. But if you care about design, craftsmanship, driving dynamics, and how all of them come together as a whole, it would literally be an insult to even compare the CX-90 to the highlander, telluride, or even the MDX. Nobody in their right mind, given they know at least a little bit about cars, would compare a RWD inline-6 turbo setup to a bunch of FWD turbo 4 and V6 cars and ask which is better - they are not even in the same league. Can’t believe we are still having this conversation…

    • @asog88
      @asog88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This. It’s either buy a car so your family can have a party in the back OR by a masterpiece

    • @vishalwaghmare9523
      @vishalwaghmare9523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely agree with what you said. I am looking for an optional 3rd vehicle. Yes, 3rd row is a little tight, but for me with a family of 4, it will be optional and only used rare cases. When it comes looks, styling, interior, I am in love with CX 90. I did check Palisade, New Pilot and the interior quality does not match. I am looking to buy CX90 Premium Plus in artesian red. I own 2015 CX5 and no issues so far with Mazda.

    • @almassengale
      @almassengale ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't understand why Mazda can't manage to build a car that both drives well and is class competitive in practicality. Its as if they want to stay a sales also-ran.

    • @serge6603
      @serge6603 ปีที่แล้ว

      Je suis tout à fait d’accord avec vous

    • @serge6603
      @serge6603 ปีที่แล้ว

      But let's let the new MDX turbo compete. Relax

  • @vin6135
    @vin6135 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    For me, the sweet spot in the CX-90 line up is going to be the 280 HP engine in the Premium Plus trim level. It’s down a little bit on horsepower than the high output 6 and is missing a couple of little luxury features like the power steering wheel or rear ventilated seats, but it does check off all the other boxes … panoroof, front ventilated seats, and bonus, it seats three (kids) in the third row, so it has slightly more seating capacity. For nearly $10,000 less than its high output counterpart, it will retain the awesome handling.

    • @littledovecitydust
      @littledovecitydust ปีที่แล้ว +1

      280HP is so little. I need at least 500HP.

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@littledovecitydustbro what???

  • @WayApp
    @WayApp ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Kudos to the reviewer for this detailed comparison! It's refreshing to see two strong contenders in the SUV market. 👍👍

  • @uhoRn36
    @uhoRn36 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Mazda is killing it, gutdamn! Can't wait to see what they'll do for the next gen mx5 😍

    • @erikua2010
      @erikua2010 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hopefully put the straight 6 with turbo in. 😅

    • @susanaobeid6770
      @susanaobeid6770 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice making such an wonderful video I am pleased. That car is expensive but I can show you how to afford the money to purchase that car within two months. Ask me how it works if you're interested

  • @beyondtherhetoric
    @beyondtherhetoric ปีที่แล้ว +55

    It's also kind of crazy how the $70k Mazda is considered "affordable" these days. Anxious to see what the EV9 is like in the real world.

    • @hamburglar83
      @hamburglar83 ปีที่แล้ว

      60k at Mercedes and bmw gets you two sizes smaller, base version with a lot of tech missing.

    • @BrianKenney-wc4qd
      @BrianKenney-wc4qd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hamburglar83I would still take them over Mazda or Hyundai.

    • @platano4924
      @platano4924 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@BrianKenney-wc4qd🤣 you take a bmw or Mercedes over a Mazda.. are you perhaps leasing not buying, right?

    • @BrianKenney-wc4qd
      @BrianKenney-wc4qd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@platano4924 Well to be precise I don't take bmw or Mercedes at all, just saying hypothetically I would take a "lesser model" of them over the high end Mazda or Hyundai.

  • @Andrii-rides-and-swims
    @Andrii-rides-and-swims ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Last year drove Hyundai Kona with Lane Keep Assist. It was the best lane keeper I've ever drove: it keeps the best trajectory on any speed and do it very comfortable. The second place I give to Opel Grandland. Interesting is it the same over all cars in Hyundai.

  • @bonjournaste
    @bonjournaste ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think all these reviews are sleeping on the lower trim CX-90s. Mazda always has really good value options, and the trim levels always feel very fairly equipped. The inline six really helps with the premium feeling, not sure it really matters if it has more HP or not. 280hp in base trim is more than adequate. Whatever the first trim that unlocks the bigger rims is probably the sweet spot.

    • @SavetheWater1
      @SavetheWater1 ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed but at the price point Im wanting ventilated seats

  • @abcdLeeXY
    @abcdLeeXY ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Palisade/Telluride definitely are still the value king in its segment. However, I prefer the Mazda chassis, powertrain and over quality/refinement for an extra $10k if I was to keep it for 6+ years.

    • @tmarriotti
      @tmarriotti ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Except most dealers all have huge markups on Telluride/Palisade so they are basically even

    • @Makai_the_Dj
      @Makai_the_Dj ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Mazda has the Turbo 6 available in a medium level trim that is cheaper than this palasade. This comparison didnt actually compare apples to apples. Need more info, but both are nice.

    • @jjchockey
      @jjchockey ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Also you don’t need a top trim. You can get the lower HP i6 with most of the features in this car for around 50k which is the same as the loaded Pallisade before markup.

    • @tommc3622
      @tommc3622 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Indeed.
      Historically, the Mazda will run forever.
      The Hyundai will be used up @ 120k.

    • @alex99398
      @alex99398 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tmarriotti You don't think the Mazda is going to have a huge markup? They'll be in limited supply...you figure out the math. You didn't think you comment through. Also, not all Hyundai/Kia dealerships have huge markups. Do better than this.

  • @differencemaker242
    @differencemaker242 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The power matters when you add more passengers. The vehicle performance is weighed down by additional weight and the vehicle will perform sluggishly if it doesn't have ample power.

  • @PresidentJackBauer
    @PresidentJackBauer ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I use the camera feature for the mirrors all the time as an owner of 2 cars with it. Especially late at night

  • @TooManyWilliams
    @TooManyWilliams ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think it speaks to Mazda's design ethos that even its largest SUV offering is still fun to drive! I'd love to get one of my own

  • @M9_Prime
    @M9_Prime ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yuri, I totally get what you mean about the eco system. I have a 2016 CX-5 and ordered a 2023 CX-5 and love the rotary dial life. I have elantras and Corollas at work and I hate using that touch screen, especially when I’m on a bumpy road, my finger keeps moving when I want to select stuff. Plus no finger prints if I don’t use the touch screen.
    Side Note: I asked on Twitter to confirm the apple car play touch screen working while driving and I appreciate that you guys snuck it into this video. My 2016 CX5 has no CarPlay so couldn’t test it myself.

  • @Nurof3n_
    @Nurof3n_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    14:43 that screenshot edit had me spill my coffee 🤣 10/10 I love you guys

  • @alex99398
    @alex99398 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mazda owner here...similar with Yuri with the CX-5 and it's not bad...but noticing squeaks and rattles now, but the biggest letdown is the infotainment. The dealership experience was not great either (just switched Mazda dealerships). I think the CX-90 is decent looking (except for the headlights which are not wide enough) and nice interior. But at $63k, would rather fork over more and go for a Lexus / Acura or Genesis. Both great cars, but at $53k range, I would probably go Palisade / Telluride

    • @asog88
      @asog88 ปีที่แล้ว

      I rented a cx5 in 2022 while I was waited for my Mazda 3 to come in from Japan. As to infotainment the new one is light years ahead of the old. It’s very enjoyable. As to the squeaks and such, Mazda pretty much fixed this after 3 years of the car being out for the 3. So there might be some growing pain for the new cars too. That or they’ve fixed whatever issues were going around brand wide

  • @amitratwani5698
    @amitratwani5698 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I totally agree with everything mazda. It is something you just need to experience it. Once you have a mazda you won’t like anything else. It is just better.

    • @Bmwguy2011
      @Bmwguy2011 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I prefer bmw’s driving experience. But when you compare cost to buy and reliability, it surely looks like Mazda is a total winner. I drove the 90 yesterday and couldn’t get over how well it handles accelerates and steers. The fit and finish while not German is still remarkable for an Asian reliable car. I’m trying to negotiate a purchase of the cx70 this week.

  • @corentco
    @corentco ปีที่แล้ว +32

    @TheStraightPipes you need to get that CX-90 over to Tuxmat so they can laser scan it.😊
    I recently cancelled my order for a 2023 Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy and now have a 2024 CX-90 Signature on order. As an enthusiast FR with an inline 6 and that beautiful interior are hard to pass up.

    • @TheStraightPipes
      @TheStraightPipes  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Congrats!!

    • @KenSheppa
      @KenSheppa ปีที่แล้ว

      How long will your order wait time be?

    • @mbenton6
      @mbenton6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@KenSheppa 8 weeks

    • @corentco
      @corentco ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KenSheppa Roughly 90 days. I expect delivery around mid to late July.

    • @user-ji3il6ce2o
      @user-ji3il6ce2o ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally legit comments (Not from TuxMat employees)

  • @superawesomefuntimego
    @superawesomefuntimego ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The Palisade for sure is a nice rig and offers good value, but the CX-90 is absolutely worth the extra $$. The Mazda is soooooooo much better looking inside and out, faster and handles much more competently. We picked up a new Acura MDX A-Spec in the last year and if the CX-90 was available at the time, we almost certainly would have went that route.

  • @shannonjude1
    @shannonjude1 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    that cx90 looks so much better in and out

  • @mahanlovescars996
    @mahanlovescars996 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I cannot believe how fast that mazda went into production

  • @ajaurgemma5341
    @ajaurgemma5341 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The mazda screams BMW and I like it ngl

  • @jocko4598
    @jocko4598 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Mazda you show is the top of the line model. The base Mazda 6 cylinder turbo model, with 280hp, is $10k less.

    • @lornestein7248
      @lornestein7248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm waiting for the reveal of the coming CX-70 (2-row) version of this. Hoping it will be offered with that 3.0L Skyactive 280hp. Will be perfect for me.

    • @MegaTony805
      @MegaTony805 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they showed an XRT Palisade which is $42k not $52k like the calligraphy

  • @mocmylov
    @mocmylov ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Don't play with my emotions with the box test 😢

  • @ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344
    @ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The cx90 with the grey two tone interior looks insane. Very minimalist with a nice german looking exterior. If I was into suvs I would consider the cx90.

  • @louisbarningham
    @louisbarningham ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mazda CX-90 is the best, Mazda always do an outstanding job on every vehicle they produce😊

  • @tri3pleagent
    @tri3pleagent ปีที่แล้ว +4

    More power, better FE, better driving dynamics, more premium interior... I'll take the Mazda.

  • @jeremiahhall2281
    @jeremiahhall2281 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No normal person is calling a $63,000 vehicle affordable or budget friendly. Especially for a Hyundai! Anyway I enjoyed the back and forth here, and I'm subscribing today!!!

  • @JB50713
    @JB50713 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great way to compare similar vehicles by jumping from one to another the same day.

  • @blb128
    @blb128 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That tan and black interior on the Mazda is on 🔥. I've always had black interiors but would totally get this in the cx90.

  • @TalismanPHX
    @TalismanPHX ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Definitely the Mazda. The Hyundai wont hold resale value like the Mazda, plus you'll have to deal with shady Hyundai dealerships.....

  • @Yogi5D
    @Yogi5D ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That 39k bare bone CX-90 with that straight six 8speed auto gatta be steal

  • @omarosman9010
    @omarosman9010 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    THE ULTIMATE COMPARISON!!! YOU GUYS ARE GENIUSES!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH 😭😭😭

  • @danielkerekes9053
    @danielkerekes9053 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Mazda is pure class. If I was in the market for a new midsize SUV between 50-100k, only thing I’d consider over this would be the Mercedes GLE

  • @suhiihus
    @suhiihus ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My favorite reviewers reviewing my life decision 😜 I am a Mazda admirer who bought 2023 Palisade Calligraphy 😀 no regrets as such but the InLine 6 Turbo is something to ponder over 😐

    • @Sakosaga
      @Sakosaga ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah the calligraphy trim makes the car worth it tbh, I'd get it over a GV80 Because the extra money for the GV80 almost isn't worth it when it's so close

    • @mbenton6
      @mbenton6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just bought cx90. This exact one

    • @zogadwoe
      @zogadwoe ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mbenton6 congrats. How is the space in the trunk behind the 3rd row? I'm mot feeling the way the sunroof opens in the Mazda. Tell us more about tour experience as an owner.

    • @mbenton6
      @mbenton6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes about 2 months to receive $62,300 with a few addon accessories

    • @mbenton6
      @mbenton6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm keeping the third row down I have 2 young teenagers

  • @dalehuhtala9285
    @dalehuhtala9285 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I use the blind spot camera views all the time in my Genesis! It works great!

  • @v10mclaren
    @v10mclaren ปีที่แล้ว +7

    CX-90 by a mile. Especially in Soul Red

    • @joecool9739
      @joecool9739 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats not soul red
      Its a new type of red, a brother to soul red, engineered specially for the CX90
      Its darker than soul red, almost wine colored under certain lights

    • @v10mclaren
      @v10mclaren ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joecool9739 the color in the video is Artisan Red. Looks ok but not as good as Soul Red

    • @tmo2798
      @tmo2798 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      'By a mile'. ... But it will outlast the Daewoo by 200K.

  • @dwolfe2907
    @dwolfe2907 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That blacked out palisade looks so sick though. Seen many get that and mod it up too, looks pretty badass

  • @tommytufguy3432
    @tommytufguy3432 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mazda for sure for me

  • @alwaysiyi272
    @alwaysiyi272 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think I’m this segment, having a FWD layout might be the better option. They are more space efficient and most parents that are buying this don’t really care for what engine their vehicle has or anything. That being said, I can’t wait to see what other vehicles come on this Mazda platform

    • @TheRandomActivity
      @TheRandomActivity ปีที่แล้ว

      Transverse engine and automatic transaxels have a well known history to be garbage especially the later ones used in kias/hyundais having so many issues.
      Components have to be far more compact to fit under the front hood compared to a conventional longitudinal engine and transmission layout that they can make alot larger and stronger.

    • @loooopeytunes
      @loooopeytunes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheRandomActivity Wrong. Longitudinal engine and transmission needs to be compact than a transverse engine because it takes a lot of space in the hood (you need longer hood length), longer wheelbase, and a hump in the cabin to accomodate a driveshaft, which reduce cabin capacity. And all of that makes the chassis heavier than a fwd. Meanwhile, transverse fwd engine takes less space because the engine and transmission is only located in the front and provide more space in the cabin. Honda and toyota have been making fwd cars for a long time and it's known for their reliability. I don't want to talk about bmw, merc, and other euro cars about reliability lol

    • @PaulHojda
      @PaulHojda ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, if you really need to transport 5 passengers regularly, a minivan would be infinitely better than either. That's where you really get space efficiency

    • @dparis2172
      @dparis2172 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PaulHojdaTrue if you’re transporting 6 regularly. For 5 a minivan is overkill, and excruciatingly boring overkill at that.

  • @joshuagraham3222
    @joshuagraham3222 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    CX-90 by far is a better buy.

    • @Williams-mp7vz
      @Williams-mp7vz ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s tiny… awful value for the space

    • @nadeemkasmani
      @nadeemkasmani 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I own a CX90 and the cargo space is very disappointing

  • @markcoopers1930
    @markcoopers1930 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Any word on when the base inline 6 will be available to compare/review? Would be interesting to see a price matched comparison.

    • @jrh8302
      @jrh8302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its already out as well.

  • @dougbrady5955
    @dougbrady5955 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're missing the $10k dealer markup on the Hyundai that we're seeing in the States. Wife got a CX 90 PHEV over the Palisade Calligraphy because after dealer mark-ups the prices were within $1,000 of each other. She's absolutely loved her CX-90.

  • @tonyren.tr5
    @tonyren.tr5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hyundai has been really good during this decade, although I have been really annoyed by the "Wahs" of the commercials, especially when I'm watching hockey

  • @wthutch7882
    @wthutch7882 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I would love to see mention of auto-dimming exterior side mirrors. It's a feature so many automakers overlook but it is a necessity for me personally and I would love to know which models have it.

    • @TheScottAF
      @TheScottAF ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Palisade has it, but you'll have to option up to Limited/Calligraphy I believe.

    • @Natethegreat200c
      @Natethegreat200c ปีที่แล้ว

      Oof that’s a good one ! How do you locate cars with that? Do you just default to buying more high end expensive cars because they often have them and you don’t have to think, or do you find the mainstream cars with them?

    • @faeinthebay
      @faeinthebay ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@Natethegreat200c I have astigmatism so dimming side mirrors were a must-have when I was car shopping. Virtually no economy cars have them besides the odd VW or Nissan (and even then, you might need to import parts from overseas). It's generally limited to premium/luxury brands. Genesis includes it on most trims, so I went for a used 2015 sedan. And Mercedes only includes it on the driver side for some reason.

    • @OmerTheGreatOne
      @OmerTheGreatOne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 2009 mazda6 has auto-dimming exterior and interior mirrors. Not sure if Mazda still offers that. It requires a light sensor in the center mirror.

    • @differencemaker242
      @differencemaker242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd bet the 90 has it. My 16' mazda6 has them. I'd be shocked if they omitted that feature on their most premium product ever.

  • @CJT3
    @CJT3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm just going to have to say it. Mazda is the best overall car company there is. No other company combines great style and driving dynamics WITH reliability as well as they do. Lexus may be right there with them, but Mazda's on top in my opinion.

  • @bfish9700
    @bfish9700 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Commenting before even watching the whole video: this is a test I needed to see although I would have liked to see the non Turbo S version as it's similar priced and more apples to apples.

  • @patrickgagnon9662
    @patrickgagnon9662 ปีที่แล้ว

    FINALLY YOU LISTENED ....HOW MANTY TIMES HAVE YOU STATED IT DOES NOT HAVE TOUCHSCREEN ...I posted every time I heard you guys state no touch screen many times ...thank -you.

  • @prescottlange
    @prescottlange ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The SOUL RED CRYSTAL METALLIC is also available for the CX-90.

  • @nomadenview
    @nomadenview ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both of them got a great front side design than the new BMW....

  • @jacobschott5002
    @jacobschott5002 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    RIP to the box test

  • @rid1mz
    @rid1mz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Dude A: The Palisade is literally better in every parameter!
    Dude B: Yeah, well! I prefer the Mazda!
    Peak brand-washed behaviour.

  • @manny41p
    @manny41p ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love how not many people noticed Yuri’s beard growth throughout the video 🤣

    • @jonlosito2004
      @jonlosito2004 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea.. I noticed it too 😂😂

  • @euphrentic
    @euphrentic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's so refreshing to see any color at all in the kitchen!

  • @Sharow98
    @Sharow98 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Can’t wait to see the Mazda CX-70 this year! If the CX-70 is anything like the CX-90, Mazda will likely have two extremely good sellers! Love my ‘19 CX-5, but a CX-70 would be extremely tempting after seeing this beaut!

    • @paulmccoy6431
      @paulmccoy6431 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! I’m just concerned they will go to American and try to make it wider than the European version. One thing I love about my CX-5 is the size. Fingers crossed

  • @classiccj2569
    @classiccj2569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The good thing about the Mazda's infotainment is that the screen is at a good distance where your eyes don't have to adjust as much when glancing back and forth from the road to it. Also, the dial is right where your arm will naturally lay, so you can comfortably use it without having you hold your arm up trying to touch the screen while going over bumps and stuff.

  • @wea1978
    @wea1978 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have a Sonata and use the turn signal cameras all the time. They make lane changes a breeze

  • @Topnikko
    @Topnikko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Drive the two cars and if you don't buy the Mazda I'll be shocked.

  • @ImadQureshi-k3y
    @ImadQureshi-k3y ปีที่แล้ว +6

    you compared highest Mazda CX 90 trim with lowest or mid tier Palisade trim. I really wanted to see the difference in trims at similar prices. E.g. Calligraphy vs Turbo Premium plus

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mazda might finally be in that Acura/Infinity/Lexus category with this one.

    • @jayhiggins5239
      @jayhiggins5239 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Infinity is leaving a gap that Mazda will fill.

    • @MBisFrenchy
      @MBisFrenchy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jayhiggins5239 Agreed

  • @Frank_D14
    @Frank_D14 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The turn signal camera is great for cyclists.

  • @razorwired130
    @razorwired130 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I currently own a 2020 CX-9 AWD Signature and there is NO CHANCE that I would pay $60K for ANY vehicle with a Mazda badge on it. Give me the Palisade.

    • @razorwired130
      @razorwired130 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just priced a CX-90 with every option and it stickers for $68K. Cmon man - I can get nicely equipped Audi Q7 cheaper than that! Mazda has lost their minds.

  • @aceofspades6667
    @aceofspades6667 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting I think the mazda is better way better. The coming cx-70 with that 3.3T inline 6 is going to be an rdx slayer and a gv-70 competitor for $7k -$10k cheaper than both.

  • @cpftank09
    @cpftank09 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    100% the Mazda and I’ve never owned either of the brands. I can’t get past the front on the Kia/Hyundai where the headlights are placed awkwardly in the bumper. It’s like the headlights were just randomly placed with no style effort put into it.

  • @richardmultiimages7431
    @richardmultiimages7431 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The box test was the only reason I sub'd 😢

  • @itsuyoko
    @itsuyoko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mazda any day, for interior and exterior! Best SUV we ever had.

  • @Mcnibbus
    @Mcnibbus ปีที่แล้ว

    The screen shot gag was gold I actually was thinking my phone took one

  • @starbai3619
    @starbai3619 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish ya put this up against the Pilot Elite. But still good review. Thanks for the content!

    • @MikeForsythe
      @MikeForsythe ปีที่แล้ว

      Why? the Pilot is a joke and sorely outclassed by anything in this class.

  • @Soh90
    @Soh90 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is everyone so upset about the Mazda touch screen situation? I think the rotary control knob is easy to use and much less distractive.
    And the Mazda feels clunky because of the transmission. The electric motor is actually driving the car forward briefly before the clutch engages to the engine.

  • @ApfelBrotchen
    @ApfelBrotchen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mazda looks So Stunning 😍✨

  • @Bob-fk8vd
    @Bob-fk8vd 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I will take a comfortable ride over a sporty ride any day.
    I like the Palisades tech. Mazda seems outdated inside and outdate tech.

  • @DM72513
    @DM72513 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I understand you get the vehicles the car companies give you but you could just compare the entry inline 6 Turbo Premium Plus with the Palisade for an Apples to Apples comparison. The entry inline 6 is 280 HP and 319 tq and has all the same driving dynamics, it’s just less boost.

  • @Trapan93
    @Trapan93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:35 the Mazda DOES have a towing mode but its hidden until you hook up to something with the trailer hitch and the electronic connections that you would have installed with your hitch. Its the same for my CX-50. No need to display the option when you are not towing anything.

  • @trevorsutherland5263
    @trevorsutherland5263 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mazda all day long. 2020 Palisades and Tellurides now showing up in the used off-lease market and they are exactly what you'd expect to see in a three year old Hyundai or Kia. Rattling parts, worn trim; headed straight for the "Buy Here Pay Here" lot by 2025 just the same as any other Hyundai, Kia or Genesis. Japan has already forgotten more about building cars than Korea will ever know.

    • @keynesianeconomics4113
      @keynesianeconomics4113 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paul562 Mazda aren't wannabe luxury; they've always built great cars but they've been venturing into that gap between Honda/Toyota and Acura/Lexus for a few years now.

  • @SothyRSem
    @SothyRSem ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sorry Mazda, considered the price, the space overall, Palissade is still the winner for me.