Your Questions Answered - Bret and Heather 25th DarkHorse Podcast Livestream
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- The Q & A section of the 25th live discussion between Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying on the DarkHorse Podcast. Find more from us on Bret’s website (bretweinstein.net) or Heather’s website (heatherheying.com).
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:32 The Gini coefficient
02:14 Which came first? Genetics or epigenetics?
03:56 Heritable traits impacted by environment, IQ and genetics
09:33 Should we promote the nuclear family?
12:00 Is immunity to coronavirus likely?
15:35 How long until the dictionary definition of racism changes?
18:22 What are the goals of #ShutdownSTEM?
21:29 Advice to university professors
28:29 How to break away from evolutionary drives
30:48 BLM & White Fragility
34:33 Eric Weinstein and Dan Crenshaw for president?
36:30 Heritability and IQ
37:47 Violence amongst apes
42:47 “Gender is the software of sex” / Are gender and sex different?
47:43 How old racism still impacts present society
49:49 Who signs up to woke culture plus thoughts on Dave Rubin
52:27 Do we have a race problem or an socio-economic problem?
53:57 Pulling down statues
56:51 Where are we on the DarkHorse Duo?
57:49 How to contribute to the Intellectual Dark Web
59:10 How to avoid being called a phobe
01:01:04 Is Jordan Petersen important to this discussion
01:01:27 Why is there no branded movement against this current sense making crisis?
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00:32 The Gini coefficient
02:14 Which came first, genetics or epigenetics?
03:56 Heritable traits impacted by environment, IQ and genetics
09:33 Should we promote the nuclear family?
12:00 Is immunity to coronavirus likely?
15:35 How long until the dictionary definition of racism changes?
18:22 What are the goals of #ShutdownSTEM?
21:29 Advice to university professors
28:29 How to break away from evolutionary drives
30:48 BLM and White Fragility
34:33 Eric Weinstein and Dan Crenshaw for President?
36:30 Heritability and IQ
37:47 Violence amongst apes
42:47 “Gender is the software of sex” / Are gender and sex different?
47:43 How old racism still impacts modern society
49:49 Who signs up to woke culture? Plus thoughts on Dave Rubin
52:27 Do we have a race problem or a socio-economic problem?
53:57 Pulling down statues is a power move
56:51 Where are we on the DarkHorse Duo?
57:49 How to contribute to the Intellectual Dark Web
59:10 How to avoid being called a phobe
01:01:04 Is Jordan Petersen important to this discussion?
01:01:27 Why is there no branded movement against the left craziness?
I love Tuesdays now because I'm going to bed after listening to your podcast live. Good luck from Romania and keep spreading knowledge!
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What's the SJW situation like in Romania?
Whoohoo! I’m not the only Romanian here! 😊👍
Hi Romania from Hungary! Listening this morning to the end I fell asleep during last night!
@@nosouponhead There is no voice in that direction so far, maybe small exceptions; the society still has to recover from communism and learn what each person's role is in a free society. But we are importing trends and ideas from the outside. Hopefully we can also learn from mistakes from outside.
Can his wife make an app where she reads you to sleep? That is the most calming voice ive ever heard
I have always said Heather’s voice is sexy. I thought I was the only one who thought that
I love that Heather can put Bret right back on track. It is a wonderful example of intuition and integrity.
Jordan Peterson just posted an entry on his blog, he seems alright!
Would be nice if these guys can call him during a stream like they did w Eric.
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Imagine attacking an organic synthetic chemist with 13300 citations.
It is madness. I fear it is backed by China over a very long period of time.
First time I watched one of these. You guys are calming to listen to with an interesting discussion. Thanks
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Darkhorse Duo comments:
1. There may never be another chance like this. Bret's proposal is so sound and elegant from a Game Theoretical perspective that it has legs....steal the majority in the middle back from the lunacy on the far left and Trump, who has some ardent supporters, but won on his best quality of being Not Hillary. Also, I think Michael Moore phrased it best by saying Trump was a Molotov cocktail lobbed at a system by people who had been locked out of it.
2. MONEY - This will need serious money. Some very deep-pocketed individuals will need to be in support or it will be DOA. Can such people be convinced that A) the danger of utter collapse of the Republic is real and B) it has a chance of working. Peter Thiel could probably be brought on board by Eric. Could Mark Cuban possibly be recruited?
3. Staffing - This needs all the pieces of a full-on presidential campaign without the party machinery. How to find the right balance of experience without the party hackery of the politically experienced. Also, I love the coldly analytical style of Bret and Heather, but there will need to be all types involved: ra-ra types, door-to-door sales types, mudslinging types, cloak-and-dagger types, etc.
4. This will probably be ignored by the DNC and Team Trump until it gains significant momentum, then they will attack it with everything they got. Attacks must be anticipated and responses laid out in advance. Trump is a master at political manipulation and the DNC not only has the vast financial resources and legions of experienced political operators, but also the allegiance of most major media outlets. These cannot be underestimated.
5. Authenticity - I think there is a huge opportunity for this movement to be authentic, in fact I think there is a massive thirst for a little. We don't have every answer, but we know how to have a conversation and we know the right questions. I think of the ad campaign that rescued Dominoes Pizza...it was authentic and highlighted the companies imperfections. People are starved for this kind of genuine honesty.
Bret, found you from Rogan.
I appreciate your TH-cam from what I’ve explored so far.
Same here
Hi, I was intrigued and somewhat alarmed at Mr. Weinstein and Mr. McWhorter's observation of the riot's and how it appears that BLM,ANTIFA, and other groups have morphed into something resembling Maoism. I attempted to tell a liberal friend of mine about this and he accused me of trying to start a fight. I am still bewildered how talking about the observations of 2 professors would cause my friend to think I am trying to start a fight. In conclusion I agree, if this movement is not confronted soon we will be in a civil war.
It's not a confrontation we need. The only examples I can think of of the spirit of abstraction being stopped is characters like MLK; how did he stop the spirit of abstraction? He understood human nature, brought people together, and gave them the tools they needed to put an end to the cycle of dehumanizing. We need someone to explain to us the real problem and help us combat the dehumanization that antiracists are committing.
My skepticism about the civil war concern is where would the physical battlefield be? It seems feasible if major cities were comprised of 50/50 Right- and Left-wing populations. But they aren't, the two requisite sides exist in very distant spaces, rural versus metropolitan.
you should fight him and kick his commy ass give him what he wants, he's not your friend he belongs to antifa
@@iangoddard5915 Yes, it would be a very awkward and dangerous battlefield. Maybe like gang wars.
@@iangoddard5915 Rural vs. urban sounds like a perfectly plausible battlefield to me. You would also see plenty of fighting even within the cities. That's the way the Colombian civil war went in the 90s.
I love that Wintergatan marble machine! The music intro.
@J C Brilliant video. A must watch th-cam.com/video/IvUU8joBb1Q/w-d-xo.html
@J C The band is called Wintergarten
Might I add, props to Dark Horse for actually getting permission to use it.
Mr. Weinstein, i just recently had the opportunity to get to know who you are and what you do (through Joe Rogan's podcast). I want to thank you for being a much needed voice of rationality and critical thinking in these times that seem devoid of them. Please, keep doing what you do.
Intelligence, civility, humor and interesting topics...so refreshing! You're not merely educating, you're healing via provision of hope and modeling! TY both!
27:57 "What is the opposite of a Trojan horse, though?"
A Dark horse?
Oh man. Top comment.
I would suggest the term "Pasiphaes Cow" as an opposite to Trojan Horse.
Looks like a beast on the outside but inside there is a Queen. :D
Trojan Piñata
A paper tiger.
Good show. Right on the money about the definition trick! Can we get Eric on again soon? Cheers from Norway.
48:40 - the hypothesis that lower school funding in selected urban areas is the cause of lower black achievement seems to be challenged by at least four things. 1. low school funding and opportunity in rural areas 2. lower funding and opportunity in homeschooling 3. how asians perform in the same urban area schools. and 4. the increased (inflation adjusted) US school funding over the last 5 decades with decreasing or static performance on standardized tests. All 4 factors challenge the hypothesis that low funding is a primary cause of low achievement and increasing funding will therefore cause higher achievement.
@@savannah4526 Thanks for adding some good data...
What an amazing podcast with two very intelligent AND wise people who clearly know and respect each other very much. It's so enjoyable to watch and listen to.
Thank you guys for creating this podcast. I am in my early 20s and early on in high school and college, I was genuinely frightened that I was racist because I didn't believe that the narrative being pushed by woke or cancel culture made any logical sense. I did a lot of reading on gender and racial issues and ended up finding people like Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, and now you guys. Keep it up and McRaven/Yang 2020!
I LOVE their back and forth. She is maybe a bit more dominant and I think his reactions to that are adorable (but they clearly both respect each other - just a great couple from what I see)
As a veterinarian, I'm exposed to corona virus frequently, if not daily. It would be interesting to check the veterinary population for "spillover" immunity to the sars cov 2 virus
Politically I'm a large L Libertarian and love that I'm able to learn and appreciate so much from progressives with an intellectual approach. Cancelling out a bunch of terms that were plaguing me indeed, very refreshing. Love these podcasts.
really enjoyed this talk guys, I miss those days of debate between Jordan, Sam and Bret
Happy to hear mention of Rebel Wisdom, David Fuller is doing great work.
God bless you both and your family. Thank you for your insight and thoughtfulness.
I recognize a YT comment goes unseen, but your comment about Rubin is exactly why I unsubscribed from him last summer. Thank you for articulating what I couldn't.
Dark horse duo is looking to rescue our father from the belly of the whale! 🐋 🦞 🇺🇸
Grand ideals need to unite us.
I think you should create a stand alone short form video about the dark horse duo plan for presidency, it would be an effective way to easily share the idea and help gain momentum
I feel he knew Rogan would break that out into a clip, which he did and which has more reach than Bret’s channel-that said, an edited short form video would be nice.
I find it bizarre that you pick Yang over Tulsi.
Yang has shown he'd bow to the DNC establishment, so he would probably get more supporters.
A televised debate between Eric Weinstein and Donald Trump is the most hilarious thing I can imagine. Please, please come true.
Holy shit you nailed it with dave rubin. I hadn't heard anyone talk about it yet.
I believe Bret is wrong about Dave Rubin. He didn't nail it.
I used to love Rubin but since the debate season he hasnt had any center or center left guests on and his quality has declined. Also his book was panned. And it's possible it was panned but the many bad actors who obsessively hate him for some creepy reason, but Shapiros books arent panned and hes also well hated.
@@ladyj3173 I think it's not just that he hasn't had any center/center left guests - it's that he's beginning to focus on guests that are not just right wing, but religiously right wing. The kind of people who have predictable stances on absolutely everything and are willing to be completely wrong about something just to maintain their right wing credentials.
I've always been surprised that Sam, Bret, Heather, Jordan, et al. included Rubin in their group. He's an intellectual lightweight.
I was introduced to you through Joe Rogan's podcast some time ago and became fascinated after Eric forced the story of telomeres out of you.
Thank you for your consistently thought provoking discussions and best of luck.
Professors should refuse to participate in the nonsense. When they are fired, make sure your wrongful dismissal suit covers that you were fired for not joining a religion.
Bill Nye decided to use clown fish as an argument for human sexuality... totally shocking.
Extremely helpful explanation (for simpletons like me) of the sex/gender difference from Heather and Bret. Thank you!
The thing about the Gini coefficient is that it doesn't matter what the ABSOLUTE wealth of either party (well off/less well off) is, it is still (at least partially) applicable.
Anyone else notice this podcast sound like the “shwetty balls” SNL sketch that makes fun of NPR?
D1agram Honestly a solid 10% of why I listen is because I love “shwetty balls” and the podcast gets caught up in the halo effect.
Very happily surprised by the thunder ranch shoutout. Can confirm that they are a premier source of no-nonsense self defense training run by experts in their field. I would highly recommend those courses to any armed individual interested in self defense.
Regarding Bret's plan to draft two candidates-the trick is finding two people who haven't been compromised by this anti-racist religion and the Dems. I initially supported Yang, but since then, he and his wife both have seemed to have taken a bit of a knee to the far left. I'm all for a Crenshaw/Weinstein draft (either brother or Heather).
I LOVE your parking meter lamp!
I live less than a 15 minute walk from CHAZ. I've been through there at least half a dozen times. I can confirm that one speaker on the podium, a native man, while scolding an adoring crowd for exuding toxic whiteness, sneeringly alluded to "that book you've all read" and its white author who's growing rich exploiting black pain. To paraphrase Noah Deucalion, DiAngelo might be the Robspierre of the movement for the moment, but don't forget what happened to him.
Can you elaborate more on what its like? Also did he mention that she was growing rich or is that your input?
@@ladyj3173 I recall he said she was growing rich exploiting black pain. He was a Native American. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a clip of the speech online; dozens must have recorded it.
Fascinating. Helpful to have 1st-hand testimony.... 🙏🕯🇺🇸
@@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 That same speaker also suggested that real "allies" would live on no more than $45,000 per year, and donate whatever they earned in excess to P.O.C. The crowd applauded, maybe with somewhat less enthusiasm than for earlier points. The speaker then scolded the crowd again, declaring that of course none of them would really do it. (I suspect some actually would, but probably not many.)
Now, for all I know, Robin DiAngelo does live on $45,000 per annum and give (or rather "give back") anything more. I suspect, however, she does not. What if the Movement decides that it's racist NOT to do that? What if it decides real "Allies" will sign over their paychecks to BLM/Antifa , and live on an amount to be determined by the Movement? What choice would DiAngelo have? What choice would any of her devoted followers have?
starts @5:58
Let's call it the "Anti-Hypocrisy Movement" > AntHyM > Anthym /anthem/. I mean, since "ANTI-xxxxx" is all the rage; litearlly and figuratively...
Or just Anti-Hype even.
How about - The Math Party.
Well, you don't SOUND like an idiot....Nice!
Critical Thinking Movement
Anti-ra. As in anti racism. Nobody on the left can call it racist or far right, it will attract lefties and sane centrists and right.
More people-wolf please! Love the discussions. Thank you for all your work and dialogues
It was always very clear to me that Dave Rubin was simply on a search to belong and be embraced by a group. I always felt a sad compassion for him in his interviews when he had such interesting guests, but spent the whole time probing their positioning and trying to find signals that they were on his new team. Poor guy.
I'm never conceding that "sex" and "gender" aren't synonyms.
You're correct. They just aren't and anyone who thinks they are is wrong. Sex is a word to identity someone by their genetalia. Gender is an identity formulated by a mix of traditionally Male-only and Female-only traits, and the labeling and creation of new genders can be arbitrary. And having an identity traditionally converse with your sex doesn't mean you can act like your sex doesn't exist.
@@johnathanjjohnsoniii8019 No the creation of new genders cannot be arbitrary. God created all people to be man or woman. That is it. End of story. People can't make up genders any more than I can truthfully say I'm an attack helicopter. In all other mammal species on this planet, the two terms are also synonymous. And we are at the end of the day mammals.
@@johnathanjjohnsoniii8019 It seems to me you summed it up perfectly.
you two are intellectual royalty in the country
God help us as they are both socialists and I don't believe for one minute they know what's best for me and my family but they think they do.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate your podcast and Q&A.
Hello from eastern Canada! Want to say thank you for continuing to fight the good fight in the best way known, through honest and open dialogue.
I am wondering if it would be possible for Heather to have her mic db's turned up? You both have wonderful voices, it's just sometimes Heather is hard to hear, and you are both saying things that need to be heard.
Thanks!!! Please never stop talking and analyzing!!
How about #EqualOps, short for #EqualOpportunities? It taps into something positive and american, with the idea that everyone should be able to make it. It is also something that people intuitively can ascribe to, and reveals someones true motives if arguing against it.
Would you say that rebel wisdom would be he best brand to get behind for anyone in the UK?
Sorry could think of a word other than brand!
32:58 "Well done, Robin!" - Bret
My sarcasm meter just exploded, flew across the room, and it embedded itself in the wall.
University Profs should not quit *prematurely* unless they face some time sensitive opportunity that requires it.
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Do what you can to obviate the brazen foolishness.
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*TAKE A STAND* like this: "I commit to the proposition that it is never harmful to anyone to *ask a question*. I reserve the freedom to *ask any question*. I will support anyone who is attacked merely for *asking a question*. And I will oppose anyone who attempts to restrict the freedom of anybody to *ask a question*.
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I would post this on my office door. I would post it on my webpage. I would hand it to all my students. And I would become Socratic in my public voice. If there is any claim I would like to make, but which could give my enemy a hold, I would instead *ask a question*. If I were to publish papers, I would frame sensitive materials *explicitly* in the form of *asking questions*. And if the enemies descend, I will point to what I have posted (and I hope have become known for) about the freedom of asking questions.
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I may be cancelled, but in the process I will try to *force my opponents* into framing their objections as objections against *the freedom to ask questions* -- i.e. to force them to the most unpalatable defence, a defence that makes them look as bad as I can possibly make them in the eyes of the public.
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Then, having been cancelled, I can say that I fought the good fight.
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NOTE: My posted 'stand' might not be the best formulation of anything, but 'you are not allowed to ask certain questions!' is not a position easily sold to the non-deranged. In other words, if they attack you, force them to bare their fangs in a way that others can see.
This is great. You are doing the work. Encouragement forthcoming....
Evergreen it would seem has produced this immense silver-lining, thanks guys!
You guys need to remind everyone to like and share more often. Even dedicated viewers such as myself forget more often than you'd think.
Bret says it's up to us to make Dark Horse Duo Plan real. Well, here it is @DuoHorse on twitter.
VOLUNTEER to make Bret's idea happen.
Need soc media organizers, writers, Human Resources & Public Relations folks, etc.
Let the roots of the grass speak. Please follow & share to make a real difference.
#DarkHorseDuoPlan2020
T-shirts! T-shirts! T-shirts! T-shirts! T-shirts!
Thank you for maintaining my mental sanity!
Newspeak is being established as we speak.
Bottom line: Rationality must win, not emotion.
My issue with the live debates is how the audience always ends up clapping for people after "profound" statements. It adds a twist to the whole thing where instead of watching a discussion of ideas I feel like I'm watching a sporting event and people are just cheering for their side when it scores.
This is the first time I've heard anyone of merit call out Dave Rubin. I remember watching him on TYT years ago and even then I got the sense that something was "off" with him, a feeling that has only grown stronger in time. He really appears to be a political grifter... Like a true grifter, not the meme/slander/ad hom that gets tossed at ideological opponents like a frisbee, and I don't say this with any malice towards him or his audience, just that he's about as anti-intellectual and "wonk-for-pay" as anyone I've ever seen. Idk, just glad to hear someone who's opinion's I trust call him out a bit, however mild it may be.
Everyone else of merit was smart enough to stay out of catfights.
I dont get that vibe and I dont think Peterson would have picked him if that was the case. I think he really believes what he does but hes just gone predicatable with all conservatives guests, guests of low quality in my opinion and too many fox news appearances. If hes being a jerk online thats even sadder.
Peterson is gone and Rubin kinda lost his principles. Sad days for IDW
That was an excellent discussion! Thanks!
Great work and thought you two, keep er coming.
Inequality is ONE of the crime factors. If it was the only or primary crime would be MUCH higher. There are tens of millions of honest non criminal poor people.
Can relate to personal filter and paradigm fixation when it comes to hysteria over being left out ... it has some parallels though possibly not the same extremes as the current movement. Was a social work intern with a welfare office for 6 months and gravitated immediately to a small crew that was constantly hatching revolution regarding workplace prejudice and their trials in trying to compete professionally. After a few weeks, the anger became contagious in a manner I couldn't understand logically as I had nothing racially in common (being white) with any of this group. Quite surprisingly I started to become hugely affected by this filter and perspective in ways I couldn't source at all. I started re-interpreting simple social encounters in the narrative I had been listening to for the previous few weeks to the extent that in no time I was seeing obstacles everywhere and that this narrative somehow applied to me, strangely enough. In a few days viewing the world through this lens, I was paralyzed and withdrew to my desk in a fuming mass, limiting my communication with everyone lest another simple social or professional encounter feed this beast anymore. I think it may have started as an empathetic mechanism, a real deep effort to understand that somehow internalized unwittingly and morphed into something else. (this would be an interesting area of study) I come from a recovery background, am a member of a recovery organization that has some vocal critics in the media and thought this might be extending in this environment and I had not been seeing it for decades. I encounter it rarely in my travels, perhaps 10-20 times a year where people indirectly infer that addiction is a moral issue and that the recovery model is a sham for weaklings and sour grapes. I know intuitively that this is not the case and it has never really raised my ire much in that last 15 years. Part of my recovery instruction is to listen to any viewpoint and to honestly dismiss or take it on it's value in every case. Older members might counter, "maybe you do have sour grapes of some sort... ever think of that? " I spent years sorting whether this viewpoint had any merit and decided that it was largely based on ignorance and to not waste my time on individuals or institutions who might think differently. If I was to be an effective ambassador of a truly serious issue, I could not stumble into unvetted personally motivated grievances lest I fall into a destructive bias. Like many in the current movement, I had as much or more support, given plenty of objective consideration in the press (though not seeking it) and lots of enclaves where I could thrive.. and that it is of no value to engage fools in arguments as you will lose in some fashion regardless. Medicine and the law were on my side and that's all I really needed in the end... could make my way quite well despite a significant vocal cohort telling me I was bitter, weak and some kind of born again religious nutcase. By not wearing this on my lapel and scaring people into compliance with personal anger on the issue, I could be the most effective amabassador and dismantler of damaging stereoptypes and archetypes. It comes up regularly in my inner circle, even after 20 years, but in the form of eggshell paternalism at times, if I'm feeling OK and to hang in buddy. Was a bit annoying at first but that is an entirely inappropriate response, anger and accusation, to someone doing their best and who does not know any better, but is trying and who may still hold the same beliefs after our encounter. I was instructed that this kind of response was not ethical or defensible and could often be founded on ego, self serving interpretations and usually ended badly with all parties being the more ignorant for engaging. This organization considered the political angle, through a century of trial and error, was too full of mines and egos to ever ultimately serve it's social goal, political groups relying on funds and regularly amended their stances based on funding and political alliances, and they abandoned it 80 years ago citing the experience of other organizations. Not too mention, indiscriminantly deputizing all sorts of personalities to go out in the streets and unleash their individual interpretation of a thoughtful, hard won vision. 20 years after this, they had an impeccable reputation, were welcomed by the courts as allies (though being seen as a total nuisance only 20 years before, regularly being beaten by cops and the public in general, not to mentioned a complete ostracism that would make today's oppressions seem mild) , were honored by the President and given numerous medical and social awards for their efficacy in restoring a once hated group into full and unquestioned standing in society through simply avoiding the political arena and working diligently on the single issue at hand without outside funds, political endorsement or publicity. It was also the first organization not to bar or ban anybody based on their orientation, race, political belief or appearance (this was in the 1930's) as they understood more than anyone that exclusion, even in other arenas, could literally mean the death of an individual .
Question: have eric and brett ever got in a physical fight and if so, who won?
asking the real questions!
@Twin Mommy did he actually answer my question? Lol. I dont have an extra 2 hours of my day to watch this video
I'm picturing the basketball episode of Big Bang Theory. Sorry, guys -- love ya both, but... 🤓🤓
It would be nice to hear you have a discussion with Ryan Dawson, I believe both audiences would enjoy where the conversation would go.
Professionally, I wasted my brain on learning about Finance--to be honest, it was easier than Science. Thus, I have understood very little about your answers to these questions. But I love the fact that you base your opinions on your scientific background and method. E.g. Biological empirical evidence that the Family Unit is a basic building block of community. Nice job guys. If I go back and look up some of the concepts you've mentioned, it would be like an introduction to thinking scientifically, which means thinking carefully, which I appreciate. Thanks.
“She’s the opposite of a Trojan horse.”
I call that an honest person who is genuine in their approach to openly discuss the DIE topic without passing judgement or purging the ‘non-believers.’
Bret, will you please explain more about why you are at odds with Dave Rubin? I missed this disagreement. Will be very unfortunate if this is a permanent parting of ways.
Regarding question 3: I’m looking for a simple answer to the question of how 2 Rh positive parents can (?) have a Rh negative child. Specifically, O+ mother, AB + father, A - (A rhesus negative) daughter. Two sons of same parents are rhesus positive, A + and O +. I’m sure there’s an easy explanation. Thank you.
Dark Horse Duo will need a ton of money.
Dark Horse Duo would be great if they got elected. They absolutely will not... at least this election. And unfortunately i dont believe we have the time to start building a new party now. Biden voters do not listen to Bret or the IDW. They HATE them. They hate them so much, they run them off campus, threatening and spitting OR sit on their hands watching it all happen. Its already questionable whether or not Trump can be reelected, but all this would do is ensure a Biden presidency just like Ross Perot and Clinton. Maybe you think thats the better of two evils. Personally I dont. No new wars. Harder on China. He wont capitulate to the mob (out of narcissism probably, but still). Hes got plenty of set backs, but i think hes the vastly less dangerous candidate atm and DDD will not beat biden.
tangle feet Liberal critics have the reverse conclusion, that the Dark Horse duo will ensure a Trump victory.
@@quaternio I dont buy it. Maybe if Bernie was the pres nominee and you know he isnt doing it. There are little to no real Biden voters watching IDW content. I would almost guarantee it.
Maybe if this idea started alot earlier it would have been cool. Its a little late I agree
I have trained with Clint and Heidi Smith when they were in Texas. I highly recommend them...you should have interesting conversations should you train there
43:21 the moment Heather decides Bret is sleeping on the sofa.
Never accede to their mutations of terms. Precission of language is important, but don't give them ground by calling it CHOP.
"CHOP" at least correctly describes what they're doing. "CHAZ" is misleading, as Bret points out, it isn't at all autonomous... But I think your point is important. We're getting to a point where all of these concepts are so poorly defined and fluid that our ability to effectively communicate is eroding rapidly. At best this is a terrible mistake and at worst it's intentionally malicious.
Dammm I do enjoy these conversations. Keep it comming
Love your videos, keep them coming!
The opposite of a Trojan Horse: A battering ram flying the colours of truth and logic
This is so enlightening.
I want to ask Bret and Heather a question but they only answer to live chat. I can't watch the stream in real-time because I'm at work.
They are active on Twitter.
Their Twitter handles appear in the description, there's also an email run by Zach for this podcast.
Thanks guys
I thought you might find it useful to know that many democratic countries have faced the issues of a duopoly. I want to let you know that you could look towards other examples in history where a similar situation occurd. The Netherlands (I know the most about my own country) has been a multi (minimum of 4) party system from 1880! Our votes are generally a bell-curve from left to right and conservative to progressive. We have always had a centrist and colaborative attitude in politics. Hope this helps in the pursuit of fixing the US!
How about setting up some colleges that believe in freedom of thought and STEM. You might get a few people to apply. At the end of their courses the graduates would be unusual in that they would NOT be deranged, blinkered ideologues. Free thought, STEM College graduates would be able to tackle jobs which competing stem-hating and blinkered graduates would be incapable of.
Love the theme music!
Interesting. The 'blank slate' that allows people to be highly up-gradable, and presumably able to outperform another less upgraded competitor feels like a "nature" trait which allows "nurture" to have a more significant impact. In a way it moves selection more into a group competition instead of an individual competition. Someone with a robust "family" network supporting them should be more successful, and desirable both because they have better "upgrades" and the "family" support system which you would want your offspring to be raised by.
Although the down side seems to be that the lack of a undeveloped initial state leads people into preserving "upgrades" which are considered to be core tenets of their personality despite their efficacy.
Does anyone know how Bret and Heather make revenue since Evergreen? I know they had a settlement with the college but I am wondering how they make money to support themselves now.
They do, and I doubt they have any reason to share it with you.
@@lokithecat7225 As an aspiring professor myself and as someone who will not stand for any form of tyranny, I am curious as to how a professor/academic can survive if they become unemployable due to such reasons. This is the place where my question comes from.
@@Alberiana I would have to think that anyone interested in long term career sustainability would avoid working in higher education, with all the stories of un(der)paid assistants ending up doing the teaching, while the institution only cares about getting more Grant money. Add in the toxic environment pushing anyone political in stupid directions and you would likely end up joining or fighting the stupidity and being screwed. Getting Internet famous over an unjust firing, where you gain income (and leverage) off the fame (and settlement) isn't a realistic path to emulate, its making the best of a terrible situation.
@@Alberiana : This would be a question best put to them privately, with the qualifications you just made.
Thank you for calling out Dave Rubin.
I don't think the prospect of manditory political/social training, even it's by YOUR PAL, is anything other than horrifying.
You know what I'm gonna say.
At the very end, you guys were riffing off the last question of branding. You mentioned IDW, RebelWisdom, Upcoming Hall/Schmact/Wheal Podcast, and the GameB/Emancipation Party.
Your enlightened, first principles, good-faith "conversation" within the IDW, for example, is the local model of the "national/state" model that I am putting forward below. No participant is trying to defraud anyone into changing their position. No participant is trying to force another to their position via social aggression and boycotting. The only way you win is by actually honestly changing the mind of the other through civil discourse and relational proximity.
In my opinion, there seems to me to be an impulse underlying the last question and the response to "scale up"..... (in the question: branding in order to accumulate numbers to fight the baddies who have numbers). This strategy is inherent to Progressivism in our Political System. Progress being your group's goals realized population-wide. In the current ideological scene, "Conservatives" have certain goals and "Liberals" have certain other goals. They both want to seize power and ram through their program to achieve their goals - achieving their version of progress by forcing everyone using the police power of the state.
I think this is problematic for two reasons:
1) There is a difference between each groups' stated goals and the actual goals of the leadership. Scale creates this problem in any kind of organization. Once some org is powerful enough to actually affect change, it is already corrupt. The leadership is remote enough from the populace they are leading (due to group size) and can thus use the org to their benefit with impunity. Like moths to the light, the people susceptible to the corrupting effects of this trap inevitably gravitate to it.
2) There is also a natural bureaucratic quagmire effect immediately below the leadership level in orgs beyond a certain scale. The org inevitably eventually effectively is an impediment to its stated goals and its desired outcomes (schools beyond a certain scale make kids dumber, medical care beyond a certain scale makes people sicker, the cities wasting the most time in traffic have the most/biggest roads, etc..)
This is why I think what is needed is something that is NOT a branded ideological group with stated goals that gets big enough to fight the other bigs and impose its will, but rather we need a container that has as its basis no ideology but a principle of non-aggression. That way all the ideologies could cooperate and compete with each other fairly within the container. So no one could use the power to force others to their goals. Everyone participating with one ideological group or another would do so voluntarily. The only overarching rules would be the Lowest Common Denominators of (no murder/rape/assault/fraud/theft) - in other words a non-aggression principle.
This is what "the IDW-type conversation" looks like at scale. It is not a political party, a corporation, or even a non-profit. It is a principle. A movement that has a principle rather than an ideology at its center and a decentralized, viral-like organizational structure rather than a hierarchical structure could compete with the bigs. If we stop wasting time, talent, and treasure investing in the bigs, we could have the freedom to all attempt to reach our goals in a fair marketplace of ideas. Those that won in reality would eventually be adopted by others - voluntarily. And if the container is maintained, folks could defect from that winner in the future if reality changes.
END RANT :-)
about defeating the duopoly, would changing the voting mechanism to something better than first past the post be something doable before hand or would it have to come after wining with the duo?
For context, I think a very large reason for duopolies is first past the post voting itself. It punishes voters and candidates for going third party.
Ive been disappointed with Rubin since a little while after debate season. Ive mostly stopped watching. If hes truly being a jerk online thats sad too. We lost Peterson and Rubin lost his way. Bummer for the IDW. Im not always a big fan of Eric either because he acts like he has the worlds secrets hidden somewhere and he'll get around to showing us one day.
Still watch Bret, Shapiro and Sam Harris. Lots of Sam Harris is his ongoing complaints about Trump but I dont mind it very much.
you need to include the dog as a permanent guest on the podcast
I would say Dave Rubin is a little confusing at times. Reserving judgement, on his intent or direction will be forthcoming in my mind. "Truth is the second best option" is brilliant! His NO rant was timeless and perfect. Please everyone watch/listen to it. Ty Heather and Bret. Yes, the word trap and asking that question/clarification works. WORD. Bib Think will have to live down White Fragility video.
Re antibodies in response to exposure to SARS-CoV-2. Episode 115 of the Peter Attia podcast (The Drive) with David Watkins, professor of pathology at George Washington University, discusses whether antibodies in response to SARS-CoV-2 exposure will be neutralising antibodies.
Perhaps the thing that binds all those platforms that look for reasoned and principled dialogue could be called “Common Humanity”?
Someone calls you a racist, accuse them of being a murderer. They may say no i am not. Well that's bc of your denial, all murdered have that flaw.
Thomas Payne excellent - I can’t wait to try it😀
sticklers for the truth, unite!!!
Can anyone please share any videos or links with updates on the dark horse duo idea presented on JRE? Do they talked about on this a&a? It was such a hopeful idea. Have either of the proposed candidates responded to this idea? Just wanting to keep my finger on the pulse of this idea and help in any way I Can.
Gini coefficient is misinterpreted. Inequality is a feature not a bug. Look into what defines scale-free networks.
Crenshaw, you might. McRaven you lose. I am Navy, have SEAL friends all over the place. McRaven is NOT right or center of anything. He is a mercenary. You lose.
Yup, another Colin Powell. McRaven seems like a career officer who's principle concern is McRaven's career.
My guess is they like mcraven because he wanted to overthrow Trump. These are not people who respect voters. They view them as ignorant rubes. I just went to work the day after Obama was elected. And I knew it would be a disaster cuz I did a ton of research on him when he announced in the primary. But since I do adulting I just went to work.
Amen. No McRaven. (Military brat here.) Love these folks, but their ignorance of this community (as with all progressives) is disturbing. Crenshaw 😁 -- we'll talk about red flag laws (also background in mental health).
@@tuck-brainwks-eutent-hidva1098 You hit it. Their total ignorance of the military in every capacity is amazing. It is like a giant blind spot that they can just ignore. Astounding.
@@Marriedrebels It really is. At least they lack the open sneering distrspect that most folks of their "deeply progressive" (as Bret calls it) stripe seem to have 😉. Many thanks for your service....🇺🇸🙏🕯