My parents both have diagnosed sleep apnea, my father developed heart disease from sleep apnea, and my sister has been using a CPAP to sleep. About ten years ago I also started to develop sleep apnea, and would wake up during the night choking. It was so debilitating, I was getting more and more exhausted. I then read about people who had great results from an anti-inflammatory diet and exercise, which I decided to try as I was so desperate not to have surgery or use a CPAP. I went 100% cold turkey on the following - alcohol, refined sugar, processed foods and wheat products such as bread etc. I also began walking daily. It wasn't easy, and some days I wanted to give in to the food cravings, but I was really determined to give it a go. I noticed gradual improvements in my sleep after a couple of weeks, and within two months my sleep apnea was gone, completely gone. Whole food and exercise really is medicine, and today I still sleep through the night and the whole food diet and exercise regimen is now just a daily habit, it's no longer a chore.
Sadly, losing 72lbs, and exercising didn't get rid of my sleep apnea. A $1700 sleep apnea appliance actually made the sleep apnea worse! Because of heart and other serious health issues I finally embraced my sleep apnea machine and my life is vastly improved. Do I wish I could sleep without my cpap? Yes!!! But until a miracle comes my way , I'm using my cpap.
A few years ago, I started CPAP. As much as I hated it, I used it every night for 6 months. Then I read that my CPAP machine and cleaner combo was being recalled for causing cancer so I stopped it. Though I had registered my products, the sleep center care providers, CPAP store, and manufacturers never contacted me. I lost all trust and never used my CPAP again. I lost 90 pounds and my snoring completely stopped. I year after I met my weight loss goal I began regain the weight and it is back and so is my snoring. I used my phone app to monitor my sleep. I know that my apnea is active, but I would never trust the hospital’s sleep center, the machine provider and manufacturers, the FDA, my insurance company, again. I need an alternative. Trying again to lose weight.
I had a c pap that was recalled for that. Thankfully, I could not sleep with the two mask types and tossed it away. Nobody contacted me either ! Now my new dr wants to do a sleep study.
I must be extremely fortunate. When I saw the c-Pap, I thought, “Oh, no way!” Then I put it on and thought that I never wanted to be without it. I had sleep issues beginning in junior high when I weighed 125. That was 1968, and there was no such thing as sleep studies or understanding of sleep problems. I could never maintain any regular pattern of attendance or consistent mental performance. It was extremely frustrating. From my first night with my c-Pap, my whole life changed. I had a great doctor who was frustrated by my use of my c-Pap anytime that I needed a nap as well as for my night’s sleep. He wanted regular hours, but I was struggling with extreme exhaustion after bad sleep and untreated sleep apnea for 38 years. He also was frustrated by the fact that I did not lose weight, having become obese over those same 38 years. I didn’t care that my body didn’t do what he wanted. I was functioning for the first time. After multiple failures in my attempt to get a college degree, I was able to attend regularly and think without that mental fog. It’s just been an amazing gift in my life.
Congratulations on your success and improving your health. I think I also may have had sleep apnea since childhood and am 56 yrs now. Thank you for sharing your encouraging experience!
My Mother died at 86 in 2020 (from a stroke). She LOVED her CPAP. Really couldn't even think of not using it.I , her son -- just cannot cannot cannot tolerate it. Love it sitting on a sofa watching late night TV -- but when I fall asleep something happens and I wake up like a drowning man ripping the tubes out. I've done CPAP, BIPAP, full face mask, nose pillows, tried it FOUR sleep studies at a sleep center. I now use a side sleeper pillow and sleep on my left side. I know I get a good sleep when I wake up and remember very vivid dreams. This happens more often than not.
l know what you mean. However, it is appatently indisputable that slerep apnea, at certain stages, eventually causes real damage to the cardiopulmonary circuit in particular, which increases all risks for heart attack, stroke, dementia, cancer, arrhythmias, sudden death, heart failure, and just about every other disease caused by chronic metabolic syndrome induced by oxygen desaturation.
@@dleon0902 It really helped me when i started using a heated tube. Also, I power on the sleep apnea machine and let the air blow out of it for about a minute before putting it on my face. It helps remove any dist or particles that might be there. And of course rinse it with hot water every few days.
I haven’t heard her mention taping your mouth shut. Possibly because it’s not lucrative? I’ve been taping my mouth with a little piece of 1.5 inch athletic tape for three months and the results have been life changing! I snored so loud my wife often moved to the couch, would wake up gasping, severe dry throat and wake up with headaches. Taping has worked fantastic for me I sleep 6 straight hours, no symptoms I mentioned. Please talk with your doctor before you embark on trying this because I’m about as far away from a doctor as you can get! I have no problems with breathing through my nose. Sleep studies and all these other options doesn’t appeal to me but I wish everyone finds an option that works for them!
I have obstruction issue & CPAP at every level & every mask & would wake up feeling like my intestines would rupture do to swallowed air. Now I use mouth tape, sleep left side/stomach (I arrange pillows & wedge so I can't roll onto my back anymore), & use snorelab to measure events. Went from 30+ events an hour to 2-3 per night!
Used a CPAP for 3 months to try to sleep with moderate sleep apnea. I tried 5 different masks, several different positions, and several different air compressions but found the mask too uncomfortable to tolerate. My sleep doctor’s staff set the air pressure based on their “rules” and the pressure was so extreme it woke me up numerous times every night! Although it’s not strictly allowed, I found out how to change CPAP pressure and the activation schedule to make it more tolerable, but after using it for months I found it didn’t help my sleep at all. I was TIRED of being tired every day and really had high hopes for the CPAP process but finally gave up when I started getting MORE sleep when I started pulling off the mask at about 4 am to relax and sleep uninterrupted for a few hours! I also found the whole process of reordering masks etc. from the medical supply store to be more concerned with payments and insurance company coverage than really helping me sleep. I am a senior and have recently been diagnosed with AFIB and am about to launch into a new process to see if I can overcome my apnea. I intend to work with my doctors to examine my nasal passages to see if I can improve my breathing and am going to check into using a dental device.
I thought I had written your comment! That's exactly how I felt. Fortunately I was able to test a dental device and I have been using it nightly for the last 6 years. I wish there was a dentist in my area to service it though. It needs adjustment, and I m ight need a new one, since my puppy chewed one side of it years ago... I ground it down to not cut my gums ... But in short, I love my device. It works for me.
Same issue I’m going through now looking for to consult pulmonologist to check my nasal passages because it’s always gets blocked due to sinusitis I hope if they can do something for me if they prescribe dental device and help for my apnea.
If you have septum or turbinates in your nose that are blocking airflow, that can be a problem. I had these surgically fixed prior to using CPAP, and CPAP works for me now.
I have used one of those mouthpieces since 2015 (not that one: mine is an interlocking 2 piece, with no spring) and it was life changing ... Like I became an entirely different person because my brain started working right after I stopped nearly dying in my sleep every night.
Took me a few years to get comfortable with my CPAP. Took experimentation with about 5-6 different masks. Full face (hated those)…. Used a nose pillow which fit into the nostrils and that worked better but would have sores in nostrils… finally found a nose pillow (Fishel Paykel Evora) which rested under the nostrils but didn’t not go into the nostrils and this is what I’ve been using for the past two years - this mask has been great as it is small, allows me to sleep on my side and doesn’t create nose sores. I also use a mask & tube disinfect device to reduce bacteria.
I’ve had the pillow in the nose mask for the past 3-4 months and I keep getting sick with a cold and y able to wear the mask because I can’t breathe thru my nose. How do you keep from getting sick?
Thank you for teaching people on this subject. I have had sleep apnea for many years & have had bad experiences with anesthesia during surgeries. Even the smallest surgery, the anesthesiologist insists to lay me flat. I have instructed them that I cannot breathe when I am flat on my back & request to be elevated at least 30 degrees. I have had many surgeries, major & minor and only 1 anesthesiologist listened to me. I have had a palatopalatophangealplasty years prior to my CPAP & deviated septum repair. I use my Resmed CPAP nostril insert every night for many years with no real gratification. I am now going on 76 y/o & starting to have short term memory loss & am concerned that my CPAP treatment is not totally helping me. My Dr. does not really assist in much education since he is an Internal Med. I never spoke to a sleep specialist & only have been tested over the years twice with results of "severe sleep apnea" . I live in Southern CA & unable to find an expert in the field. It would be helpful to announce in your wonderful video ways to find a good specialist in Sleep Apnea. 🥴
I sure feel for you! Sleep apnea is debilitating. I've had trouble with various masks. but, I do like the nasal mask that shoves into my nostrils. Seems to work the best. Right now, I have the sniffles so I'm back to the full face mask again. Iy yi yi!
Apologies for the late reply! My colleague Sahil Chopra MD is a wonderful sleep doctor in Southern CA, I often refer my patients to him. Here's his practice info: www.empowersleep.com/
I get a sense after a lot of my own research, many companies and some physicians are exploiting sleep apnea treatments, not unlike the pharmaceutical companies and drug therapies. Do your own research and find your own solutions and don't believe everything you hear.
At 65 I am being fitted for a CPAP device tonight.... due to severe sleep apnea. However, I don't use a single prescription drug and have no desire to use this device the rest of my life. I have been doing breathing exercises and research techniques to help me reverse the condition. I definitely need to lose weight, but I don't want to use this device the rest of my life. I agree because to me it seems more like a (non-drug) prescription.
@@pbaker0514 I've done the whole gamut - surgeries, dental devices, weight loss and CPAP. CPAP works. I would advise anyone to change their mindset about CPAP machines if they feel that it's a sort of condemnation or ball and chain. In reality, many young and otherwise healthy people use CPAP. I'll bet you don't think of your smartphone as something you don't want to be tied to - CPAP is the same. It's a piece of high tech that makes life better. Embrace it.
I’m 70 and have using the Cpap since I was 50 when I was diagnosed with moderate apnea. It is a lifesaver! I got use to the mask (over the nose only) then a couple of years ago, I discovered the nasal mask. It is great and so less restrictive. I can sleep on my side too.
I am 65 and being fitted for a CPAP device tonight. I have been diagnosed with severe sleep apnea, but am looking for ways not to spend the rest of my life on this device.
I’m 60 and i was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea. Im feeling dizzy and on top of my head feeling weird always nightmares too. I’m weighing 123lb I hate CPAP so much, I never want to put it on, it’s so uncomfortable, I’m using ResMed mask for nose only and with strings around the ears but I can’t aje this and always looking for permanent solution for Apnea not having CPAP please help.
I couldn’t handle the full mask but after researching & finding the nasal mask & ordering small child nose pillows I can wear it. I can put the tube over my pillow & lay on my side also. 🎉Amen
Many of these sound like ideal devices for medical device companies and care providers to capture revenue streams. It doesn't seem like there is much attention to how to make lifestyle changes to avoid or reduce apnea.
You are right! I have afib. The doctor insisted I go on a blood thinner. After reading the "Black Box Warning," I knew I had 2 conditions that explicitly say I shouldn't be on blood thinners. I found out about 2 devices, a Watchman and an Amulet. These are placed in your heart and prevent 98% of blood clots with no side effects. They don't have batteries so don't need to ever be replaced. The surgery is done and you go home in a couple of hours. I asked the surgeon why all patients weren't having these implanted instead of being put on blood thinners. They are expensive and risky to take. He replied that the surgeons couldn't keep up with the number of patients needing one. I remarked that the health systems would lose money and big pharma would lose mega bucks. He said you didn't hear this from me, but you are are so right.
@@tomkatishereHow do you possibly "get used to" the Afib? I believe the latest research shows that losing 10% of your body weight will, in 85% of those studied, eliminate Afib altogether. Sleep apnea is clearly correlated with Afib and many other illnesses, conditions, and premature death. But none of the providers ever work together to holistically determine the precise causes of YOUR apneas, and CURE them. For example, if you have significant OSA, it is plausible that lifestyle changes, weight reduction of ten percent, and surgery (removal of tonsils, avoidance of all toxic substances 8n foods that promote Afib) would prevent sleep apnea, AND sequalae like Afib, heart disease, diabetes, cancer, dementia, stroke, and many other "standalone" conditions.
I think you hit the nail on the head, I just got my CPAP 2 days ago and I don't see myself using it very long at all, I'm fully invested and trying but so far I cannot keep it on, and when I think back to when the guy was doing the demo for me how he seemed so much more like a salesman than anything and he pretty much was! I wish I had done my own reseach beforehand, I usually do, I didn't for this, why didn't they even offer to show me the mouthguard thing before a CPAP machine?? Why not go over alternate methods before just jumping on that bandwagon!
I LOVE my cpap!! My pressure level is low and I’m able to use a nasal mask with ear loops. Doesn’t mess my hair up. Been using one for many, many years.
@@beckymigdal517 I can't use the nasal pillows, either. They chafe my nostrils and rub them raw. My nasal mask is a little triangle that covers my entire nose. Works like a charm!!
@@lynlawley8903 Just google CPAP masks. There are online suppliers with replacement guarantees. It takes a lot of work and thinking to home in on what works for you, but providers don't do a better job at it than you can. Don't give up. You have to be your own doctor for this problem.
Sometimes a CPAP (or bi-pap or ASV) causes lots of central apneas. My OSA was nose based rather than tongue based. Supplemental oxygen was a more successful treatment. But boy did I have to fight for years with the "you need a cpap" and "maybe you just need a different mask" zombies at my provider.
@@sarahmuschel4812 I knew it was my nose because even during the day I would take a big "catch up" breath thru my mouth about once a minute - even while at rest. First you have to have a "sleep study". These days most places give you a monitor to use at night in your residence. Then they dx a C-Pap. Then it doesn't help. Then you have to get them to do a sleep study in an actual facility that assesses the impact of the C-Pap, but also just oxygen for part of the night. Regarding treatment to improve the nose : rule out allergies causes insufficient airflow. Rule out reflux as causing nasal airflow insufficiency due to constant post nasal drip & nasal crusting. If crusting is a big problem, try nose oil. Rule out nasal valve collapse or septal deviation as cause of airflow insufficiency. After all that Maybe a doctor will prescribe an oxygen concentrator that you can use at night. I really did spend YEARS having to be very "assertive" with doctors to eventually get the correct nasal surgery (to fix collapsed internal valves) and then the rx for supplemental nocturnal oxygen. Hope that helps. I am not a Doctor, am not dispensing medical advice, just passing along what worked for me.
When I was hospitalized for a week my oxygen level kept dropping to low setting off the alerts. After they put me on supplemental oxygen it didn't drop too low the rest of my stay. Discussed this with Cardiologist, PCP and Sleep doctor. They were in agreement that putting me on supplemental oxygen would make me be dependent on it. I haven't been able to use the bipap for csa and osa. My ex-husband tried to smoother me several times. The masks all cause PTSD symptoms. The doctors all keep insisting many of my medical problems would be solved by going on bipap. So now they have me trying a new treatment for PTSD that evolves eye movements. I slept better than I had in years with supplemental oxygen.
Those who think their oxygen levels may be dropping too low could purchase a finger oxygen recorder. They sell on Amazon and many other sites. My records my oxygen level and pulse rate for up to 10 hrs straight. The results can be transferred to your computer, phone or tablet. You can then share the results with your doctors. Hopefully they will be open minded enough to listen to your concerns. Unfortunately, mine haven't been. Don't get me wrong. They are fantastic but it's difficult for them and myself due to autonomic dysfunction / autonomic neuropathy.
So I am back here after a month and a half wearing a mouthpiece. I think it’s working somewhat. I do think it needs an adjustment. But I feel like I’m not waking anymore with brain fog. I had one adjustment and I may need another one. My doctor said I have to do another sleep study to see if it’s really working. My husband has reported I am snoring less. If any.
Tried a cpap multiple times, i have sinus issues and its always running down the back of my throat, so im clearing my throat constantly in my sleep, and every time i do i open my mouth so the pressure forces out my mouth. Most uncomfortable thing ever and causes panic attacks and anxiety
set the minimum pressure to something higher (it helps with the suffocation feeling, which is related to a lack of air flow). with 2-4 cmh2O between your lowest pressure and your top 95th percentile value, i.e. 5cmH2O to 9cmH2O if your nose is playing up, either use daily nasal steroids and saline washes, or get your nose fixed by an ENT.
I understand the panic attacks caused by the cpap system. My ex-husband tried smoothering me multiple times. The mask caused PTSD. I am hoping the newer no machine, just in your nose plugs work. They aren't covered by most insurance plans but aren't really expensive. There are at l3ast 2 different brands. You just don't suck it up and start wearing the cpap mask. Panic attacks are extremely scary. Best wishes to you in finding something that helps with you.
I used a cpap once and my head fell off, so,I don't use it anymore. But seriously, sleep apnea can be dangerous- maybe an alternative might work better for you?
I tried mine one time and absolutely hated it because not only was I wearing this silly nose thing but I had the tube hanging off onto my bed my cat sleeps with me and she was a little bit unnerved by that. I fell asleep with it on surprisingly I didn't realize that my mouth was open when I was asleep so I'll that you're rushed out and scared me and scared my cat! I ripped it off oh, and the next time I tried it I couldn't breathe because I felt like I was suffocating. So after two tries and went back to the Homecare place and I have not investigated further because oral appliances have giving me problems and I'm not going to try to fit a CPAP to do the Inspire and I don't want surgery anyway.
I feel exactly the same. CPAP is absolutely horrible. I tore it off while sleeping, I'm severely claustrophobic. I too sleep with my cat, and aside from how terrible CPAP is, we couldn't cuddle at all. I don't know what to do, because I can barely stay awake anymore. Also, I had a stroke at 26, and a heart attack at 44, and I'm sure my sleep apnea was the cause.
Good video with lots of good info on options. She did not include 3-D expansion w/ dental appliance that addresses the root cause which most often is related to the underdevelopment of the maxilla and mandible coordinated w/ myofunctional therapy to address the soft tissue imbalance. Another non-surgical procedure is the Nightlase which is a Non ablative procedure to reduce the soft tissue in the back of the throat. We have experienced great success and eliminated the need for lifetime wear of a CPAP or a mandibular advancement appliance.
Could you please send me more info about these options you mentioned? I have severe refractive trigeminal neuralgia, anesthesia dolorosa, hemifacial spas and other cranial neuralgias so I can't even wear a mask to prevent viruses like COVID and flu much less a CPAP mask! TIA
Tried 3 different masks, side sleeper, spent more time waking up & adjusting the mask as air rushed over my face waking me every 30 minutes. I was worse off with it. Gave it 6 months. Now have a long pillow at my back & sleep normally. CPAP not for everyone.
I had surgery for sleep apnea, it helped a little bit . Been through several sleep studies and tried cpap machines which did not work for me. I would wake up and the mask would be on the floor and i had no memory of pulling it off. what did work for me was losing 20 pounds and sleeping in a recliner.
I noticed a difference within an hour from a portable infra red heater set up a few feet from the head, for a relative with snoring, the snoring vanished. Also, Benfothiamine seems to help central apnea a lot.
Dr Ken D Berry makes a good point about Sleep Apnea, you can lose weight just dieting or you can Keto or Carnivore you can lose weight in the right places, the liver, the tongue and the body! There is a difference in just dieting cutting back or salads and such will help lose pounds but Keto and/or Carnivore you lose weight in the organs and places that really help sooner!
This is my husband's problem. It was great for a while, but now he always has sinus issues. He has given up on his CPAP completely now, snoring is worse than ever, & he's exhausted all day again. Really wish we could find a good solution for him 😕
I couldn’t handle Cpap because I have Hydrocephalus and a Vp shunt so the Cpap created to much pressure. I was at the beginning of the mouthpiece so it cute the sleep apnea by 50% but at the same time ruined my bite since it was before the day piece was invented. I ended up getting an adjustable bed with really helped along with the mouthpiece at the time. A few years ago I had another sleep apnea test and it greatly improved so now I just have mild sleep apnea which I just use my adjustable bed to treat that. Their are wedge pillows you can get that also elevate the head while sleeping.
I had an oral appliance, and I think it was working, but I had a bad case of tmj pain with it. It took a long time to resolve the tmj pain. Is there a % of patients this happens to?
Losing weight is key but so is sleeping positions. I have a mild form of sleep apnea. I was exhausted for some time because I used to sleep almost flat and on my side which was bad for my breathing and getting air. I had the occasional dizzy spell as well. I've since been elevating myself almost to a sitting position in bed and at first found it awkward but eventually my body got use to this pattern and I was able to wake refreshed every day. The sleep apnea is still there but in time I hope to cure it though I've heard that losing weight does not always work! I do a lot of deep breathing exercises and have got back on my trampoline/rebounder to get the circulation and lymphatic drainage working in the body.
Not all Sleep apneas are the same. I have Hypopnia,in simple terms the sleep center in my brain does not work properly and i simply don't breath once i am asleep, The first sleep study i did showed that i stopped breathing 127 times in the first 60 min. It didn't get much better for the remaining time of the study, but after 5 hours the air pressure was titrated up to a 14 psi to keep the airways open and me breathing properly.
You know how EMTs pull your head back to get the airway clear before CPR? Why wouldn’t sleeping with y9ur head off the bed work? I’ve tried it & it’s perfectly comfortable to ME. I only sleep on my back. I can’t find anyone to answer this. Also is sleeping in one’s stomach an alternative?
Yes, you can experiment with sleep positions. And yes, you can sleep on your stomach, but it has downsides - harder to inflate your lungs when laying on your chest, etc. But in general, you're doing what everyone needs to do - think about it and try to analyse the problem, then try solutions. Which is very difficult, especially when you're still sleeping poorly. Keep at it until you find what works.
I seem to need my mouth closed to not snore. I have used a cpap but my mouth dried out. I tried to wear head bands aroundy chin and head to close my mouth. I bought mouth pieces, to pull my lower jaw forward, but it couldn't keep my mouth closed. I finally tried a neck brace and tape over my mouth. Those both work so much i don't need my cpap anymore. But the tape makes me nervous if i threw up unexpectedly. So the meck brace has worked best for me. But it has to stiff enough to be able to push my jaw up.
People are fallible, and so are all systems. Hard news , but when believed, we are free to forgive fallible and find the TRUTH ourselves. Find INFALLIBLE and never be let down. What you describe makes us worship things Above---looking above what is in our faces. I hear you---been there!
I tape my mouth shut because the cpap shoots air in my eyes, and loses suction on my cheeks etc, it dries my mouth and throat so bad my throat sticks to itself, the silicone causes cold sores where it touches! I have tried everything and adjusted all ways, tried different masks, chin slings, and paid for lots of these things myself! Including climate control tubing! Nothing works but my cin drops open so the NexCare tape keeps my chin from dropping open and keeps lips closed! That works!
Sounds good. I use CoverRoll stretch tape, with self adhesive surgical bandage wrapped over it to keep it from loosening, and a soft cervical collar on my neck to prevent chin dropping.
I breath through my mouth so I need the full face mask. I'm having a hard time finding the right CPAP settings. It's been almost two weeks. I don't feel any better than before I started even though my numbers look better. The first week I felt way worse.
Same with me! Not looking good for me to continue this thing, I'm aggravated they didn't even tell me there were alternatives, I would have rather tried a mouthpiece first, shame on me for not doing my own due diligence first! I usually do, ugh!
Im Going through this at the moment first started noticing my constant painful throat now I am so tired two hours into the morning and I can't seem to shake this off I know I need to get it checked out im just to tired for that too.
I’ve been using a CPAP machine for about five years, and I’m incredibly grateful to have it. I wouldn’t be able to sleep without it, as I literally choke in my sleep. It takes a good two weeks to get used to, but once you do, it becomes automatic-just like breathing. You simply put it on, and it’s done. Sleeping without a CPAP when you need one can lead to severe heart problems later on. So don’t be reckless-don’t risk your health.
I was told I had sleep central sleep apnea, and that I would stop breathing often and gasp for air often. Was given a cpap and found could not use it due to bloating which aggravated a medical procedure I've had. Years later I wondered if I had apnea, and if so, would it be caught on a recorder? so I downloaded a recording app for phone and put it on the bedside table. Recorded all night long, several nights, and never once did I stop breathing, and didn't gasp for air at any point.
Very informative. I have a pulmonary appointment coming up and partially will be reviewing my sleep study that puts me at a 7 where previously I was at a high normal of 5. I know he will be pushing for a cpap but I am resistant for these reasons: 1) I have some instances where all of a sudden while sleeping I can not exhale through my nose and air is forced out through my mouth. It wakes me up immediately. If I can't exhale, I think the cpap will make matters worse. My ENT doc thinks I am crazy :) 2) I know partially what the problem is with some obstructive issues is that i like to sleep with my pillow scrunched up under my neck. If I just push in on my throat as a test I can replecate the same thing. I think it is more of a pillow placement thing. For those reasons, I am going to kinda push back on getting a cpap and see if I modify my sleep position if that will help and do another sleep test in a year. What do you think?
Consider that the CPAP will increase the air pressure in your nose helping to clear it whether the air is moving in or out. You might also improve from some nasal clearing procedures to physically have more room to breath.
I had the same problem with Cpap pushing air out thru my mouth and waking me up. By "7", do you mean "events per hour" ? If so, that is nothing compared to people that get 60 or 100 events per hour. in my non-doctor opinion, 7 is not a level of "you MUST use CPAP".
@@justsomeguy5490 Thx for response. No... the 7 and 5 numbers refer to the overall score they give you, not the number of events. 1-5 is considered normal; 7 is mildly abnormal but not concerning.
I've been on full face CPAP for 6 years now. My Dr says I'm her rock star lol. I wear it every night. I wear it because it made a drastic difference in the tried feeling I had all day. I've lost 40# in the last year. I've gotten my air turned down. I'll have to still wear it. I was told after my study that I had a small airway. I still have my tonsils. Unfortunately everything sags when you are elderly .🙁
It took me months and several different styles. Now I use the nasal cup and 2 InstaClear nasal strips. I actually look forward to my breathing machine! If I am stuffed up and can't breathe, that forced, moist air opens my sinuses up. I am no longer tired during the day and wake up refreshed! I am now able to nose breath during the day.
I have a stuffy nose and am concerned a CPAP will worsen the condition, with the turbinates swelling to "slow down" the extra air to moisten it, causing the CPAP to increase in pressure again. I saw a video about this.
@@jenniferkimaustin I used to be a mouth breather because my nose was always stuffed up. One of the tricks I used was putting on the nose cup and letting the machine push air through my sinuses and out of my mouth for several minutes. The daily use of the breathing machine has turned me into a nose breather.
I already have a sleep problem. Could not sleep with the CPap the hose was a big problem. I am awake with the slightest interference. I sold my machine. My friend has been threatened by his doctor if he doesn't wear it 4 hours a night he will have his driver's license taken. So he is in a trap. Nothing else has been offered to him. Now he can not sleep at all.
Sorry to hear that! You or your friend could try www.empowersleep.com/ or www.sliiip.com/, both are reputable online sleep clinics that can help people find other treatment options.
This info is so interesting, as I've been using a C-PAP machine for lots of years, and I'm interested in the tongue-shocking device to wear at night. So my tongue isn't strong, I'm realizing. How to I go about gettng checked out for it? I live in Jacksonville FL and will move to Gainesville by the new year.
Are there any options for people like me who don't have that kind of apnea? I have apnea from airway reflux - acid reflux flaring up the airways, or at least the opening to the airways. When I'm flared up I have apnea, and when I'm not I don't. It has nothing to do with my tongue or jaw.
I suffer from.massive hypersomnia but mild sleep apnea no.snoring. im 130 pounds. So far no answers. Cpap did.nothing but giving me bloating. Could it be central?😢
Sorry to hear that! Worth talking to your sleep doc to see if they can change the CPAP settings. Or you could try Empower Sleep, they're great at troubleshooting sleep issues and coming up with creative solutions: www.empowersleep.com/
I wake up feeling dizzy and it last all day when using ny cpap machine. I'm not using it anymore. I am going to look into the oral device. Feeling disoriented and dizzy is no fun.
Thank you for your video. I am learning since last week I was told I have Sleep Apnea. I need other options 🙏. The air compressor was a terrifying experience for me. I tested it for the first time at the Clinic. The physiotherapist gave me different nose applicators. I struggled with full mask and went for what they call pillows (plugged to my nostrils). At the clinic, the air flow was low and gentle however I still struggled and couldn’t tolerate it but I took it home hoping I was going to gradually get used to it. My shock was when at home the air pressure was too strong, actually it was a sudden, totally unexpected aggressive blown. It was controlled remotely to pump in and continuously a volume of air that I could not exhale, my lungs, my ears, my mouth kept inflating to a point I felt my lungs were going to burst. I gave it up because sleep is about not feeling stressed or uncomfortable. I only used it for few seconds and 4 days have passed and I have an uncomfortable sensation. This compressor left my upper lungs, throat, and ears feeling like I just had a accident. I bought a new bed to raise my upper body and my sleep has improved. I sleep side ways so the weight of the tongue’s muscle won’t collapse the traquea.
Omg as I read your story I thought I had written it myself. This is exactly what happened to me however when I came home the air pressure was insane! I became dizzy and my vision was blurring left me so anxious. I received mine a few days ago so when I have time I’ll call during the week to get someone to help with pressure or to see if they can help me but this seems to be very difficult to use. I was barely able to breathe when I tried it out at the place with the respiratory therapist but it was more manageable but not long term. In my case I gained a lot of weight these past two years so I know what I have to do to get rid of this because I did not have it before it’s just so difficult
@@mjhmr8get the CPAP pressure lowered to the lowest pressure to start, take it off auto adjust, set the epr to the lowest setting to start for pressure when exhaling, adjust your tube temperature and humidity level to the temperature and humidity level most comfortable for you then you may be able to get used to CPAP treatment. I had to have the pressure lowered to 4 (lowest pressure for a resmed 10 air sense machine, the epr at 3, the temperature set to 70, and the humidity level for the tube set to 1. Good luck with getting your machine settings adjusted and getting used to CPAP treatment, it's all possible! Also, find a comfortable mask. Insurance companies will pay for a second mask if you call the CPAP company within the first thirty days and let the CPAP company know that the first mask isn't working well for you. Wishing you good luck!
I have severe sleep apnea and am not using anything at the moment, I tried CPAP, I hated it. Never slept one night with it, I really couldn't get used to pushing back against my breath. Plus I can't sleep well on my back AT ALL, my side I can somewhere. I don't want inspire either as I don't want an implant in my body, plus it doesn't stop all episodes. I want a mouth guard/mouthpiece that can hold it open, or the DNA appliance, I can't find anyone in my area who accepts my insurance who will give me one of those. Are any of you on them? Also, is there any option that does for your throat what braces do for your teeth? Whereas braces eventually straighten your teeth, is there anything I can use that will eventually widen my throat?
Look into NightLase. It's a procedure that utilizes laser therapy to 'tighten' the skin at the back of the throat. Think of it as a facelift for your throat! I had it done at my dentist's office, and I believe it has helped. I also received a SomnoDent oral device from him. I will be doing a 'test of cure' sleep study in December, but won't get results til January. Good luck!
@@margarethenshaw8273 I need to to a REAL sleep speciailist who know about many treatments, one that is well-informed and doesn't just know about CPAP or Inspire and is UP TO date on the latest treatments Your dentist sounds well informed and not like the stone age medical providers I mean who are so far behind they don't even use anesthesia, but try to have someone punch me out to do the work
I couldn't handle the CPAP. The oral devices didn't work either. Nasal opening devices wouldn't work either. I was warned that surgery could have some very bad side effects, like having problems swallowing. I've given up on ever curing my sleep apnia.
Been using a cpap for 5 years but in the last two years I've developed teeth splaying and now my teeth don't come together at the front or back. My dentist says this is from tongue thrusting. What would cause a 60 year old woman to develop tongue thrust? Is it from the cpap? I also have TMJ which kind of complicates things and my sleep apnea is mod to severe so the dentist says I should stick to a cpap. I'm not happy that my teeth are going to continue to get worse but what do I do about it?
Well I am 52 and I have always had sleep apnea. Even as a kid I was always sleepy in school, never could remember things and teachers just thought you were being lazy. When I got older, everyone said, oh you need to lose weight and that will solve but when I was a kid I was skinny. I weighed 135 pounds and 5 foot 9 when I graduated high school. So I know weight has nothing to do with it. I always had a nose issue as it was always congested. But I use a nasal mask but I still don't get enough sleep and still forgetful. I even used a full mask and it didn't help. I don't know what to do and my sleep doctor not sure either. If it is my deviated septum, I'm not sure that Inspire would even help??.
I have heard similar stories from a lot of people with sleep apnea. It seems to me that sleep apnea is actually what causes weight gain for some people, so telling a person to lose weight without knowing the cause or removing it is unhelpful.
I’ve had a sinus surgery and it didn’t help. Glad I did it though it was a life changer. Just didn’t do any thing for sleep apnea. Some dr’s say it can be due to the brain.
@@CyberTranceHero69 Please do your research on ENS ( empty nose syndrome ) before you go under any nose surgery !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dr's usually "forget" to mention it to patients ! I decided NOT to go through my surgery. I have OSA and I can't tolerate CPAP.
@@CyberTranceHero69 Could be that, or several other nose (or throat) issues. In my case, collapsed internal valves in my nose. Which is Rhinoplasty ("spreader grafts"), not septoplasty. A lot of ENT's only do septoplasty, so tell all their patients that they need septoplasty & coblation.
I have central sleep apnea too. People don't understand it's caused by the brain not sending the signals to the lungs and diaphragm to breathe. We wake up gasping for air or can't get a good night's sleep because of it. There is a newer device similar to the Inspire for both csa and osa. Sleep doctors continue to push the cpap / bipap machines even though they really don't help with csa. If you have csa, you'll almost always be diagnosed with mixed sleep apnea even if your sleep study says it's csa. Why? Because the doctors can then continue to insist you go on cpap. It's financially beneficial to the health care systems to have you on a cpap machine.
@@tomkatishere People also dont understand how physical and mentally exhausting this central sleep apnea can be Muscles so tight in morning and the pain from DDD disease in back. Makes mind afraid to go to sleep? Deep anyway from the stree of low oxygen at times.
I should have performed a basic experiment to test the air compressor before exposing your lungs 🫁 my ears, and my throat to an aggressive level 10 air blow. If I plug the hose into a balloon at level 10 🎈 and press it with my hands to simulate the natural exhale 😮💨, The balloon would have bursted eventually because there’s more volume of air getting in than getting out. I was told to breath normal as when you are resting. But I was wrestling with the air flow instead. 😤
I hate wearing mine and now with the ever rising cost of power, I can no longer afford to even wear it! When they did my sleep study, my oxygen SATS were at 60% and I NEVER entered REM sleep. I wake up every day so tired, with a raging headache and I'm tired ALL DAY! All because my ex husband broke my nose so many times - HE SHOULD BE FORCED TO WEAR THE BLOODY THING 😭💔
Boy, you asked for some common sense way too late in life. Karma is a bummer next time around. A hard hard life you did. Better choices, next time. Keep on learning!😊
Hi. I have been suffering from sleep apnea since 4 years. I use Cpap and mad device every night. I used to take my sleep videos regularly. What I observed is that even if I use Cpap and MAD, I would have disturbed sleep on my back but side sleeping was ok. I also observed that when I sleep on my back and fold my knees upwards I would breath better. Is there any device which folds my knees when I sleep on back? I also used slumber bump to avoid back sleeping for 3 years and now may be bcoz of that sleeping with that on my left side has become a problem for my heart. Can you tell any device which lifts my knees up when I sleep on back?.
What MD’s should be doing is obtaining a Sleep Induced Endoscopy to find the specific problem, as it may be different for everyone. So she’s absolutely incorrect, CPAP IS NOT THE GOLD STANDARD. It’s the easiest treatment under the Rothschild medical management. We absolutely need more functional and holistic medicine doctors in this world.
Drug-Induced Sleep Endoscopy can be helpful, but not recommended as a first-line diagnostic tool. It is helpful, however, for people who can't tolerate PAP therapy or who need a more detailed airway examination to determine treatment. Per the American Academy of Sleep Medicine (AASM) guidelines, CPAP is the gold standard treatment. I am a functional and holistic medicine trained physician, in addition to being board certified in sleep medicine, and agree with you that there are lots of options available and personalized care is the most important. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Excellent point. I finally got a Sleep induced Endoscopy, but only as a prequel to being evaluated for the Inspire Device, which I decided I don't want. The endoscopy doc said my tongue was the problem, but I think that may have been just to do an expensive Inspire surgery. The medical system in the US is rigged to make money.
@@vt7814 I don't mind paying for a "good good(product)" or service if I feel it's worth it and meets or exceeds my expectations, $500 is NOT worth it, however.
I used ExciteOSA. I have mild sleep apnea. It seemed to help considerably -- however, the mouth pieces have been on backorder for almost the entire year so far, leaving me with a device I have spent over $1200 CDN on completely useless. I've even tried ordering one from stores in the USA and everyone is out of stock. Infuriating.
I was just Dx with mod OSA b.c of an enlarged tongue (doctor says it is a genetic condition) so was thinking of ordering this device. I am also from Canada. Now I am concerned about the delay you mention...
I’ve been monitoring my sleep with the Apple Watch and it looks like I probably have sleep apnea. I can’t get to a doctor until next year. I hope I don’t need a cpap machine because I have super sensitive skin and I know the mask will probably make my face itch like mad. Wearing the mask during Covid also made my face itch.
It amazes me how long it's taking people to see a doctor. I'm in Louisville, KY and I got an appointment with the Sleep Medicine Center within three days and did my sleep study within the week. Now, one week later I'm being fitted for my CPAP machine.
@@pbaker0514 I don’t know about other people, but in my case it’s because I’ve been off work and therefore I won’t have insurance again until a few months after I go back.
I had challenges with initiation due to getting Covid and cough, then mask fit issues. Finally got everything working good and using it all night and insurance is making me give it back because I didn’t meet the 4 hours a night consecutively for 30 days in a row.
Maybe the gold standard more like the easy option to get someone out the door. CPAP has given me GERD / GORD which is never given as a side effect. My consultant said iam treating the secondary illness with PPI's where i should be dealing with the primary illness sleep apnea.
I have been using CPAP for many, many years. The mask/nasal pillows make falling asleep difficult. Once asleep CPAP is good. My OSA is due to a short mandible. Would the air lift surgery be a good fit for someone with a shortened jaw bone? I was very thin when I started CPAP so weight wasn't an issue. Also, dental appliances may be an issue since I have severe TMJ.
I have no trouble sleeping with my cpap, been doing it 20 years.. I just hate it. I have a severe deviated septum so full face mask is what I have to use... mouth breather) what I hate is that I'm a belly sleeper and the mask leaves horrendous marks on my face that last all day... it's embarrassing. I can't sleep on my back or sides as I always wind up on my belly. I've lost weight and now I'm thinking about crap canning my cpap as I've never noticed any difference in how sleepy I am. My health ring tells me I get plenty of deep and REM sleep so not sure if I've ever really needed this cpap? I've had 3 sleep studies, all when I was overweight and the last one they said I didn't have sleep apnea .. I think they got passed because I kept rolling onto my belly. Anyway, I'm going to try getting off this thing and just focus on breathing exercises, walking and continuing my carnivore eating. I'm 62, with 180 and I'm in pretty good health.
@@davetoms63 Wow, I just now read your response. Thank you Davetom, it was very informative. I feel exactly as you do about this CPA crap. We are the same age. How did you lose your weight? How much weight did you lose? I always wondered if sleep apnea would disappear if I slept on my belly.
This CPAP Masjine, if it is not the mask, it's the strap that breaks, my husband, sleeps with this mask and air escapes, more than he sleeps, I keep waking him up, he still snore with the mask on, and it's so irritating for me, to keep waking him up, or asking him to turn on his side, to prevent him from choking, thank you for your video,
The oral appliance will not work if people do not have all their molars. Dentists wont make them for you if back teeth are missing. They dont want to change your bite and ruin your other teeth. The TAP Device definately changes your bite. I didnt test after I got mine, but I could tell it worked b/c I was not tired anymore. 😊 If you have severe sleep apnea, the mouth devices do not work as well.
I have used one for 30yrs and hated the discomfort from day 1. I'm on my 2nd machine. I cut the straps off both, lay on my side, prop my hand under my cheek and hold the mask in place to try to sleep. Recently I received a letter stating my machine was recalled because of magnets causing interruptions for anyone wearing metal. No mention of the carcogenetic foam contained in it. I found that out later from another source. So for 30 years I have been breathing in toxic foam particiles. I have reached my limit with medical practices and can't trust them so after all this time I stopped using it all together. I never had relief from the debilitating exhaustion and the conflicting advice from different doctors. So I am done!
It seems everyone i know who did the sleep evaluation needed the machine. I think its a damn scam. No.test or machine for me. Its been a good run on life & when i go. I go.
They have a newer device where you stick a plug in each nostril. Nothing else. No machine, mask, headgear, hoses and humidifiers. With 1 kind, you replace it every 90 days. It is FDA approved and you need a prescription. The other device works the same but isn't FDA approved and you don't need a prescription. You replace it once a year. Both are available through Apria, a medical supply company. I think both of them cost under $500 per year. Check first, you can probably use your FSA / HRA caed to pay for it.
Could you be more specific about the plug device you’re speaking of ? You mean it’s a plug in the nostril, but is it attached to a machine or whatever? Thank you, I’m interested.
The plugs that go in your nose for the treatment of obstructive sleep apnea are not connected to a machine. If the plug seal is tight enough in your nose, no headgear is needed. The plugs don't help with central sleep apnea. The FDA approved product is AirAvant Bongo RX and needs to be replaced every 3 months. A doctor's prescription is neeeed. Optipillows is not FDA approved but only needs to be replaced once a year. It doesn't need a prescription. The starting costs of Optipillows are much less than Bongo and since it is only replaced once a year, it is significantly cheaper. Both are EPAP devices.
I have used to CPAP more than 15 years. I find it I need to wear the CPAP even when I’m not sleeping because I can’t put it on because it wakes me up if I’m sleepy. So it registers eight hours sometimes but when I look back at my heart rate etc. on my watch it shows that I was awake and I know I was awake because sometimes I’ll be watching TV for an hour and a half and it will say I’m asleep because I’m still. I know you say the tongue isn’t an issue most of the time but my tongue is huge it doesn’t fit in the bottom of my mouth and I don’t know if that’s because of braces or the fact I have small teeth and small jaw. Who should I go to for all of these weird things I have going on?
I tried two machines and couldn't use either one. I went back to the dr on the second one and his assistant did not follow through with me, even though I called and called and called. I tried. She wasn't interested in helping me. She just sent me to the place that gave me the device. I had to share the meeting with another patient and I had no privacy. So they were not really interested in helping me. I tried a third time to go back... the air flow was so high that it felt like it was blowing out my ear drums and I think it actually hurt my hearing because I woke up with ear aches. I can not force people to do their jobs. This is what you find in the medical system... Just give me the money and go away.
There are ways to lower the pressure. You tube😊 can show you. Also, I've found that not using the ramp-up, where it gradually increases pressure, but just starting and staying at a lower pressure was more comfortable. You can adjust the settings even though they make you feel like you're doing something unlawful.
If you are on Medicare, file a complaint with the Medicare office near you. You pay premiums every month. We all need to file complaints if we aren't getting the cars and respect we deserve from our doctors and medical staff. If enough people start demanding our health systems change, eventually it will.
Severe sleep apnea can require higher air pressure than a CPAP can apply. At that point, CPAP machines cannot work as the only medical treatment for sleep apnea. Successful CPAP treatment requires more than a sleep study and requires sleep training and support consultations. Childhood sleep apnea can be triggered by nasal congestion/inflammation or asthma due to an immune response to air pollution/allergens
I have had tremendous success with a mouthpiece custom made by my dentist. Unfortunately, after many years of nightly use, it is now damaged. My insurance must have a referral from my PCP. His office doesn't seem to know what this is. Ugh.
What does it mean you're not necessarily a candidate for a procedure? Why can someone do cosmetic plastic surgery any number of times and they cant be eligible for an operation that can help them with a condition as serious as sleep apnea? I honestly dont understand the limitation
Cpap isn't necessary for folks who have and live with sleep apnea. 1. Control your weight. if you're over-weight, Get down to your proper natural Weight. 2. Elevate the head of your bed to keep any acid reflux or digested foods, in your stomach. 3. have the medical Comunnity study your Esophageal Flap function. without an esophageal flap, Your digested foods in your stomach migrate back up your esophagus and if your bed isn't elevated, will lodge in your throat. When you start to snore, You'll inhale the digested foods thus cutting off your airway. These 3 steps will make sure you wake up the following morning to live yet another day.
We suggest our patients place elevation devices under the bed frame at the head of the bed or a wedge under the mattress…the idea being that you don’t have elevation cushions that you can push aside while sleeping.
not in ALL cases, though you may be right in MOST. There are people, like someone in this thread that says he had it all his life, nobody is BORN fat are they? By esophageal flap, you mean SPHINCTER muscle don't you?
My parents both have diagnosed sleep apnea, my father developed heart disease from sleep apnea, and my sister has been using a CPAP to sleep. About ten years ago I also started to develop sleep apnea, and would wake up during the night choking. It was so debilitating, I was getting more and more exhausted. I then read about people who had great results from an anti-inflammatory diet and exercise, which I decided to try as I was so desperate not to have surgery or use a CPAP. I went 100% cold turkey on the following - alcohol, refined sugar, processed foods and wheat products such as bread etc. I also began walking daily. It wasn't easy, and some days I wanted to give in to the food cravings, but I was really determined to give it a go. I noticed gradual improvements in my sleep after a couple of weeks, and within two months my sleep apnea was gone, completely gone. Whole food and exercise really is medicine, and today I still sleep through the night and the whole food diet and exercise regimen is now just a daily habit, it's no longer a chore.
Awesome!! Good to hear there are non-medical options 👏👍
I’m going to do the same as you . Just learning what I can replace wheat with . Going to stock up my cupboard too.
Congratulations on your success 👍🏻💐
Hi, was it central sleep apnea by any chance?
@@shirleyac12 the hype on gluten is BS, BUT, i highly recommend EXEKIAL BREAD or any organic sprouted multigrain breads
@@Simon-pl2zi brilliant. I’m cutting out wheat and starting walking . Less sugar . Thanks 🙏 for your information
Sadly, losing 72lbs, and exercising didn't get rid of my sleep apnea. A $1700 sleep apnea appliance actually made the sleep apnea worse! Because of heart and other serious health issues I finally embraced my sleep apnea machine and my life is vastly improved. Do I wish I could sleep without my cpap? Yes!!! But until a miracle comes my way , I'm using my cpap.
Absolutely!
A few years ago, I started CPAP. As much as I hated it, I used it every night for 6 months. Then I read that my CPAP machine and cleaner combo was being recalled for causing cancer so I stopped it. Though I had registered my products, the sleep center care providers, CPAP store, and manufacturers never contacted me. I lost all trust and never used my CPAP again. I lost 90 pounds and my snoring completely stopped. I year after I met my weight loss goal I began regain the weight and it is back and so is my snoring. I used my phone app to monitor my sleep. I know that my apnea is active, but I would never trust the hospital’s sleep center, the machine provider and manufacturers, the FDA, my insurance company, again. I need an alternative. Trying again to lose weight.
You may like to put a wedge shaped pillow under your mattress. It slightly raises your upper body. It has stopped my snoring.
@@tracesprite6078 Yes. Or put head-side legs of bed up on blocks. Or sleep in a recliner (as so many old folks like me do !)
@@justsomeguy5490 Yes, those are great ideas, too.
Don't buy that people continue to use their cpap.
I had a c pap that was recalled for that. Thankfully, I could not sleep with the two mask types and tossed it away. Nobody contacted me either ! Now my new dr wants to do a sleep study.
I must be extremely fortunate. When I saw the c-Pap, I thought, “Oh, no way!” Then I put it on and thought that I never wanted to be without it. I had sleep issues beginning in junior high when I weighed 125. That was 1968, and there was no such thing as sleep studies or understanding of sleep problems. I could never maintain any regular pattern of attendance or consistent mental performance. It was extremely frustrating. From my first night with my c-Pap, my whole life changed. I had a great doctor who was frustrated by my use of my c-Pap anytime that I needed a nap as well as for my night’s sleep. He wanted regular hours, but I was struggling with extreme exhaustion after bad sleep and untreated sleep apnea for 38 years. He also was frustrated by the fact that I did not lose weight, having become obese over those same 38 years. I didn’t care that my body didn’t do what he wanted. I was functioning for the first time. After multiple failures in my attempt to get a college degree, I was able to attend regularly and think without that mental fog. It’s just been an amazing gift in my life.
Horrible conditon, isn't it? I mean, sleep deprivation is listed as a torture in international law.....
Congratulations on your success and improving your health. I think I also may have had sleep apnea since childhood and am 56 yrs now. Thank you for sharing your encouraging experience!
My Mother died at 86 in 2020 (from a stroke). She LOVED her CPAP. Really couldn't even think of not using it.I , her son -- just cannot cannot cannot tolerate it. Love it sitting on a sofa watching late night TV -- but when I fall asleep something happens and I wake up like a drowning man ripping the tubes out. I've done CPAP, BIPAP, full face mask, nose pillows, tried it FOUR sleep studies at a sleep center. I now use a side sleeper pillow and sleep on my left side. I know I get a good sleep when I wake up and remember very vivid dreams. This happens more often than not.
l know what you mean. However, it is appatently indisputable that slerep apnea, at certain stages, eventually causes real damage to the cardiopulmonary circuit in particular, which increases all risks for heart attack, stroke, dementia, cancer, arrhythmias, sudden death, heart failure, and just about every other disease caused by chronic metabolic syndrome induced by oxygen desaturation.
So what do I do now
I can not use my CPAP because of my sinus infection. Waking up tired every single day has me looking for alternatives. Thank you.
@@dleon0902 It really helped me when i started using a heated tube. Also, I power on the sleep apnea machine and let the air blow out of it for about a minute before putting it on my face. It helps remove any dist or particles that might be there. And of course rinse it with hot water every few days.
I haven’t heard her mention taping your mouth shut. Possibly because it’s not lucrative? I’ve been taping my mouth with a little piece of 1.5 inch athletic tape for three months and the results have been life changing! I snored so loud my wife often moved to the couch, would wake up gasping, severe dry throat and wake up with headaches.
Taping has worked fantastic for me I sleep 6 straight hours, no symptoms I mentioned.
Please talk with your doctor before you embark on trying this because I’m about as far away from a doctor as you can get! I have no problems with breathing through my nose. Sleep studies and all these other options doesn’t appeal to me but I wish everyone finds an option that works for them!
Andrew huberman mentioned mouth taping. Not for apnea but I did wonder if it would help apnea.
I’ve tried this so many times and I can’t seem to do it. It’s not for everyone
I have obstruction issue & CPAP at every level & every mask & would wake up feeling like my intestines would rupture do to swallowed air. Now I use mouth tape, sleep left side/stomach (I arrange pillows & wedge so I can't roll onto my back anymore), & use snorelab to measure events. Went from 30+ events an hour to 2-3 per night!
Thanks! I'll try the tape tonight!
I tried a chin strap. It didn't work, I would wake up and it was pulled off. I guess I just had too much obstruction.
Used a CPAP for 3 months to try to sleep with moderate sleep apnea. I tried 5 different masks, several different positions, and several different air compressions but found the mask too uncomfortable to tolerate. My sleep doctor’s staff set the air pressure based on their “rules” and the pressure was so extreme it woke me up numerous times every night! Although it’s not strictly allowed, I found out how to change CPAP pressure and the activation schedule to make it more tolerable, but after using it for months I found it didn’t help my sleep at all.
I was TIRED of being tired every day and really had high hopes for the CPAP process but finally gave up when I started getting MORE sleep when I started pulling off the mask at about 4 am to relax and sleep uninterrupted for a few hours!
I also found the whole process of reordering masks etc. from the medical supply store to be more concerned with payments and insurance company coverage than really helping me sleep.
I am a senior and have recently been diagnosed with AFIB and am about to launch into a new process to see if I can overcome my apnea. I intend to work with my doctors to examine my nasal passages to see if I can improve my breathing and am going to check into using a dental device.
I thought I had written your comment! That's exactly how I felt. Fortunately I was able to test a dental device and I have been using it nightly for the last 6 years. I wish there was a dentist in my area to service it though. It needs adjustment, and I m ight need a new one, since my puppy chewed one side of it years ago... I ground it down to not cut my gums ... But in short, I love my device. It works for me.
Same issue I’m going through now looking for to consult pulmonologist to check my nasal passages because it’s always gets blocked due to sinusitis I hope if they can do something for me if they prescribe dental device and help for my apnea.
If you have septum or turbinates in your nose that are blocking airflow, that can be a problem. I had these surgically fixed prior to using CPAP, and CPAP works for me now.
I have used one of those mouthpieces since 2015 (not that one: mine is an interlocking 2 piece, with no spring) and it was life changing ... Like I became an entirely different person because my brain started working right after I stopped nearly dying in my sleep every night.
Would you please be able to link to the one you use ?
Would you please link the one you used?
@@angiekowalczyk4440 "ProSomnus"
@@zee7635 "ProSomnus"
Me too anything is worth a try
Took me a few years to get comfortable with my CPAP. Took experimentation with about 5-6 different masks. Full face (hated those)…. Used a nose pillow which fit into the nostrils and that worked better but would have sores in nostrils… finally found a nose pillow (Fishel Paykel Evora) which rested under the nostrils but didn’t not go into the nostrils and this is what I’ve been using for the past two years - this mask has been great as it is small, allows me to sleep on my side and doesn’t create nose sores. I also use a mask & tube disinfect device to reduce bacteria.
I’ve had the pillow in the nose mask for the past 3-4 months and I keep getting sick with a cold and y able to wear the mask because I can’t breathe thru my nose. How do you keep from getting sick?
PlEase could you text a brand to check out
Carpedie. I'm not doing well, and is it any help to flush the tube conections how often could you give me a time line
And what is a disinfection device,, I have a sponge in my cpap it doesn't have a mister in mine as GB dosent get that hot,
Thank you for teaching people on this subject. I have had sleep apnea for many years & have had bad experiences with anesthesia during surgeries. Even the smallest surgery, the anesthesiologist insists to lay me flat. I have instructed them that I cannot breathe when I am flat on my back & request to be elevated at least 30 degrees. I have had many surgeries, major & minor and only 1 anesthesiologist listened to me. I have had a palatopalatophangealplasty years prior to my CPAP & deviated septum repair. I use my Resmed CPAP nostril insert every night for many years with no real gratification. I am now going on 76 y/o & starting to have short term memory loss & am concerned that my CPAP treatment is not totally helping me. My Dr. does not really assist in much education since he is an Internal Med. I never spoke to a sleep specialist & only have been tested over the years twice with results of "severe sleep apnea" . I live in Southern CA & unable to find an expert in the field. It would be helpful to announce in your wonderful video ways to find a good specialist in Sleep Apnea. 🥴
I sure feel for you! Sleep apnea is debilitating. I've had trouble with various masks. but, I do like the nasal mask that shoves into my nostrils. Seems to work the best. Right now, I have the sniffles so I'm back to the full face mask again. Iy yi yi!
Apologies for the late reply! My colleague Sahil Chopra MD is a wonderful sleep doctor in Southern CA, I often refer my patients to him. Here's his practice info: www.empowersleep.com/
@@IntraBalance any recommendations for anyone around Lancaster PA? I know of someone who needs a reliable Dr for this.
Check out Lanky Lefty here on youtube. He does consultations and is in Sacramento area.
I get a sense after a lot of my own research, many companies and some physicians are exploiting sleep apnea treatments, not unlike the pharmaceutical companies and drug therapies. Do your own research and find your own solutions and don't believe everything you hear.
At 65 I am being fitted for a CPAP device tonight.... due to severe sleep apnea. However, I don't use a single prescription drug and have no desire to use this device the rest of my life. I have been doing breathing exercises and research techniques to help me reverse the condition. I definitely need to lose weight, but I don't want to use this device the rest of my life. I agree because to me it seems more like a (non-drug) prescription.
Are you currently using a device?
Yes, spot on.
@@pbaker0514did it got better?
@@pbaker0514 I've done the whole gamut - surgeries, dental devices, weight loss and CPAP. CPAP works. I would advise anyone to change their mindset about CPAP machines if they feel that it's a sort of condemnation or ball and chain. In reality, many young and otherwise healthy people use CPAP. I'll bet you don't think of your smartphone as something you don't want to be tied to - CPAP is the same. It's a piece of high tech that makes life better. Embrace it.
I’m 70 and have using the Cpap since I was 50 when I was diagnosed with moderate apnea. It is a lifesaver! I got use to the mask (over the nose only) then a couple of years ago, I discovered the nasal mask. It is great and so less restrictive. I can sleep on my side too.
I am 65 and being fitted for a CPAP device tonight. I have been diagnosed with severe sleep apnea, but am looking for ways not to spend the rest of my life on this device.
I’m 60 and i was diagnosed with Sleep Apnea. Im feeling dizzy and on top of my head feeling weird always nightmares too. I’m weighing 123lb I hate CPAP so much, I never want to put it on, it’s so uncomfortable, I’m using ResMed mask for nose only and with strings around the ears but I can’t aje this and always looking for permanent solution for Apnea not having CPAP please help.
@@pbaker0514 Why not just admit that you need it to be healthy? You don't need to look cool when you're asleep. These machines save your health.
Hose strips have helped with moderate sleep apnea
I couldn’t handle the full mask but after researching & finding the nasal mask & ordering small child nose pillows I can wear it. I can put the tube over my pillow & lay on my side also. 🎉Amen
Many of these sound like ideal devices for medical device companies and care providers to capture revenue streams. It doesn't seem like there is much attention to how to make lifestyle changes to avoid or reduce apnea.
You are absolutely right !!!!! It is about insurance and selling devices worth nothing. Not about the patient at all !!!!!!
Your comment is the most accurate one in all of these comments! Thanks for saying it like it is. ❤️
You are right! I have afib. The doctor insisted I go on a blood thinner. After reading the "Black Box Warning," I knew I had 2 conditions that explicitly say I shouldn't be on blood thinners. I found out about 2 devices, a Watchman and an Amulet. These are placed in your heart and prevent 98% of blood clots with no side effects. They don't have batteries so don't need to ever be replaced. The surgery is done and you go home in a couple of hours. I asked the surgeon why all patients weren't having these implanted instead of being put on blood thinners. They are expensive and risky to take. He replied that the surgeons couldn't keep up with the number of patients needing one. I remarked that the health systems would lose money and big pharma would lose mega bucks. He said you didn't hear this from me, but you are are so right.
@@tomkatishereHow do you possibly "get used to" the Afib? I believe the latest research shows that losing 10% of your body weight will, in 85% of those studied, eliminate Afib altogether. Sleep apnea is clearly correlated with Afib and many other illnesses, conditions, and premature death. But none of the providers ever work together to holistically determine the precise causes of YOUR apneas, and CURE them. For example, if you have significant OSA, it is plausible that lifestyle changes, weight reduction of ten percent, and surgery (removal of tonsils, avoidance of all toxic substances 8n foods that promote Afib) would prevent sleep apnea, AND sequalae like Afib, heart disease, diabetes, cancer, dementia, stroke, and many other "standalone" conditions.
I think you hit the nail on the head, I just got my CPAP 2 days ago and I don't see myself using it very long at all, I'm fully invested and trying but so far I cannot keep it on, and when I think back to when the guy was doing the demo for me how he seemed so much more like a salesman than anything and he pretty much was! I wish I had done my own reseach beforehand, I usually do, I didn't for this, why didn't they even offer to show me the mouthguard thing before a CPAP machine?? Why not go over alternate methods before just jumping on that bandwagon!
I LOVE my cpap!! My pressure level is low and I’m able to use a nasal mask with ear loops. Doesn’t mess my hair up. Been using one for many, many years.
I’m glad you can tolerate it. I can’t stand stand the nasal pillows
@@beckymigdal517 I can't use the nasal pillows, either. They chafe my nostrils and rub them raw. My nasal mask is a little triangle that covers my entire nose. Works like a charm!!
Oh ok where can we find info on what masks are available able
Please as I'm using a nose mouth one that feels like I'm suffocating when the stream of air gets stronger
@@lynlawley8903 Just google CPAP masks. There are online suppliers with replacement guarantees. It takes a lot of work and thinking to home in on what works for you, but providers don't do a better job at it than you can. Don't give up. You have to be your own doctor for this problem.
Sometimes a CPAP (or bi-pap or ASV) causes lots of central apneas. My OSA was nose based rather than tongue based. Supplemental oxygen was a more successful treatment. But boy did I have to fight for years with the "you need a cpap" and "maybe you just need a different mask" zombies at my provider.
Can you say more about supplemental oxygen treatment? I have never heard of it and also think my sleep apnea is related mostly to the nose..
@@sarahmuschel4812 I knew it was my nose because even during the day I would take a big "catch up" breath thru my mouth about once a minute - even while at rest. First you have to have a "sleep study". These days most places give you a monitor to use at night in your residence. Then they dx a C-Pap. Then it doesn't help. Then you have to get them to do a sleep study in an actual facility that assesses the impact of the C-Pap, but also just oxygen for part of the night. Regarding treatment to improve the nose : rule out allergies causes insufficient airflow. Rule out reflux as causing nasal airflow insufficiency due to constant post nasal drip & nasal crusting. If crusting is a big problem, try nose oil. Rule out nasal valve collapse or septal deviation as cause of airflow insufficiency. After all that Maybe a doctor will prescribe an oxygen concentrator that you can use at night. I really did spend YEARS having to be very "assertive" with doctors to eventually get the correct nasal surgery (to fix collapsed internal valves) and then the rx for supplemental nocturnal oxygen. Hope that helps. I am not a Doctor, am not dispensing medical advice, just passing along what worked for me.
@@jblackjack But then I get air in my stomach :(
When I was hospitalized for a week my oxygen level kept dropping to low setting off the alerts. After they put me on supplemental oxygen it didn't drop too low the rest of my stay. Discussed this with Cardiologist, PCP and Sleep doctor. They were in agreement that putting me on supplemental oxygen would make me be dependent on it. I haven't been able to use the bipap for csa and osa. My ex-husband tried to smoother me several times. The masks all cause PTSD symptoms. The doctors all keep insisting many of my medical problems would be solved by going on bipap. So now they have me trying a new treatment for PTSD that evolves eye movements. I slept better than I had in years with supplemental oxygen.
Those who think their oxygen levels may be dropping too low could purchase a finger oxygen recorder. They sell on Amazon and many other sites. My records my oxygen level and pulse rate for up to 10 hrs straight. The results can be transferred to your computer, phone or tablet. You can then share the results with your doctors. Hopefully they will be open minded enough to listen to your concerns. Unfortunately, mine haven't been. Don't get me wrong. They are fantastic but it's difficult for them and myself due to autonomic dysfunction / autonomic neuropathy.
So I am back here after a month and a half wearing a mouthpiece. I think it’s working somewhat. I do think it needs an adjustment. But I feel like I’m not waking anymore with brain fog.
I had one adjustment and I may need another one. My doctor said I have to do another sleep study to see if it’s really working. My husband has reported I am snoring less. If any.
Tried a cpap multiple times, i have sinus issues and its always running down the back of my throat, so im clearing my throat constantly in my sleep, and every time i do i open my mouth so the pressure forces out my mouth. Most uncomfortable thing ever and causes panic attacks and anxiety
set the minimum pressure to something higher (it helps with the suffocation feeling, which is related to a lack of air flow). with 2-4 cmh2O between your lowest pressure and your top 95th percentile value, i.e. 5cmH2O to 9cmH2O
if your nose is playing up, either use daily nasal steroids and saline washes, or get your nose fixed by an ENT.
Have you tried a full face mask?
I understand the panic attacks caused by the cpap system. My ex-husband tried smoothering me multiple times. The mask caused PTSD. I am hoping the newer no machine, just in your nose plugs work. They aren't covered by most insurance plans but aren't really expensive. There are at l3ast 2 different brands. You just don't suck it up and start wearing the cpap mask. Panic attacks are extremely scary. Best wishes to you in finding something that helps with you.
Thanks for this ….very useful and insightful information ….the best I’ve absorbed on social media …thank you ladies much appreciated .
I hate my cpap SO much!!! I’m about to give up. It is making my quality of life worse. Who wants to live longer if you’re miserable?
I used a cpap once and my head fell off, so,I don't use it anymore. But seriously, sleep apnea can be dangerous- maybe an alternative might work better for you?
I tried mine one time and absolutely hated it because not only was I wearing this silly nose thing but I had the tube hanging off onto my bed my cat sleeps with me and she was a little bit unnerved by that. I fell asleep with it on surprisingly I didn't realize that my mouth was open when I was asleep so I'll that you're rushed out and scared me and scared my cat! I ripped it off oh, and the next time I tried it I couldn't breathe because I felt like I was suffocating. So after two tries and went back to the Homecare place and I have not investigated further because oral appliances have giving me problems and I'm not going to try to fit a CPAP to do the Inspire and I don't want surgery anyway.
Look up Dr Abel Veets he has some interesting hints
I feel exactly the same. CPAP is absolutely horrible. I tore it off while sleeping, I'm severely claustrophobic. I too sleep with my cat, and aside from how terrible CPAP is, we couldn't cuddle at all. I don't know what to do, because I can barely stay awake anymore. Also, I had a stroke at 26, and a heart attack at 44, and I'm sure my sleep apnea was the cause.
I with you. And the Inspire implant is so expensive
Good video with lots of good info on options. She did not include 3-D expansion w/ dental appliance that addresses the root cause which most often is related to the underdevelopment of the maxilla and mandible coordinated w/ myofunctional therapy to address the soft tissue imbalance. Another non-surgical procedure is the Nightlase which is a Non ablative procedure to reduce the soft tissue in the back of the throat. We have experienced great success and eliminated the need for lifetime wear of a CPAP or a mandibular advancement appliance.
Could you please send me more info about these options you mentioned? I have severe refractive trigeminal neuralgia, anesthesia dolorosa, hemifacial spas and other cranial neuralgias so I can't even wear a mask to prevent viruses like COVID and flu much less a CPAP mask! TIA
I would be appreciative to find out more about this therapy you mentioned of 3-D expansion, etc. Could you forward that to me? Thank you!
Tried 3 different masks, side sleeper, spent more time waking up & adjusting the mask as air rushed over my face waking me every 30 minutes. I was worse off with it. Gave it 6 months. Now have a long pillow at my back & sleep normally. CPAP not for everyone.
@@bazabollox can you be more specific about the pillow that helped you? Thank you!
I had surgery for sleep apnea, it helped a little bit . Been through several sleep studies and tried cpap machines which did not work for me. I would wake up and the mask would be on the floor and i had no memory of pulling it off. what did work for me was losing 20 pounds and sleeping in a recliner.
I noticed a difference within an hour from a portable infra red heater set up a few feet from the head, for a relative with snoring, the snoring vanished. Also, Benfothiamine seems to help central apnea a lot.
Dr Ken D Berry makes a good point about Sleep Apnea, you can lose weight just dieting or you can Keto or Carnivore you can lose weight in the right places, the liver, the tongue and the body! There is a difference in just dieting cutting back or salads and such will help lose pounds but Keto and/or Carnivore you lose weight in the organs and places that really help sooner!
Carnivore, does that mean you eat people to lose weight, lol. I'm not eating the organs of any animal. That's gross.
Yes. I never thought about losing weight in the tongue until he made that comment.
My nose gets stuffy during the night and I can’t breath. The CPAP doesn’t worth if my nose is plugged
This is my husband's problem. It was great for a while, but now he always has sinus issues. He has given up on his CPAP completely now, snoring is worse than ever, & he's exhausted all day again. Really wish we could find a good solution for him 😕
Try Breathe Right nasal strips and/or a humidifier.
Flonase really helps open the nasal passages. That being said I still hate my cpap.
@@matthewnelson9104do you use Flonase?
@@matthewnelson9104 Try nose oil ? And also blow at some point during the night. For an old man like me, I am up at least a couple of times anyway.
I also try cpap for two years but didn’t like to use. I had mild sleep apnea
I am getting the dental device in a couple of weeks. Also getting the septum fixed. I can't use the machine due to a bad septum.
Your fortunate
I couldn’t handle Cpap because I have Hydrocephalus and a Vp shunt so the Cpap created to much pressure. I was at the beginning of the mouthpiece so it cute the sleep apnea by 50% but at the same time ruined my bite since it was before the day piece was invented. I ended up getting an adjustable bed with really helped along with the mouthpiece at the time. A few years ago I had another sleep apnea test and it greatly improved so now I just have mild sleep apnea which I just use my adjustable bed to treat that. Their are wedge pillows you can get that also elevate the head while sleeping.
I had an oral appliance, and I think it was working, but I had a bad case of tmj pain with it. It took a long time to resolve the tmj pain. Is there a % of patients this happens to?
Losing weight is key but so is sleeping positions. I have a mild form of sleep apnea. I was exhausted for some time because I used to sleep almost flat and on my side which was bad for my breathing and getting air. I had the occasional dizzy spell as well. I've since been elevating myself almost to a sitting position in bed and at first found it awkward but eventually my body got use to this pattern and I was able to wake refreshed every day. The sleep apnea is still there but in time I hope to cure it though I've heard that losing weight does not always work! I do a lot of deep breathing exercises and have got back on my trampoline/rebounder to get the circulation and lymphatic drainage working in the body.
Not all Sleep apneas are the same. I have Hypopnia,in simple terms the sleep center in my brain does not work properly and i simply don't breath once i am asleep, The first sleep study i did showed that i stopped breathing 127 times in the first 60 min. It didn't get much better for the remaining time of the study, but after 5 hours the air pressure was titrated up to a 14 psi to keep the airways open and me breathing properly.
You know how EMTs pull your head back to get the airway clear before CPR? Why wouldn’t sleeping with y9ur head off the bed work? I’ve tried it & it’s perfectly comfortable to ME. I only sleep on my back. I can’t find anyone to answer this.
Also is sleeping in one’s stomach an alternative?
Yes, you can experiment with sleep positions. And yes, you can sleep on your stomach, but it has downsides - harder to inflate your lungs when laying on your chest, etc. But in general, you're doing what everyone needs to do - think about it and try to analyse the problem, then try solutions. Which is very difficult, especially when you're still sleeping poorly. Keep at it until you find what works.
I seem to need my mouth closed to not snore. I have used a cpap but my mouth dried out. I tried to wear head bands aroundy chin and head to close my mouth. I bought mouth pieces, to pull my lower jaw forward, but it couldn't keep my mouth closed. I finally tried a neck brace and tape over my mouth. Those both work so much i don't need my cpap anymore. But the tape makes me nervous if i threw up unexpectedly. So the meck brace has worked best for me. But it has to stiff enough to be able to push my jaw up.
What does the neck brace do?
@@barbsinclair7352 it is tall enough to hold my jaw up, so my mouth stays closed.
@@barbsinclair7352 Keeps your chin from dropping. Called a 'soft cervical collar'.
How can i find out what kind would be good
I’ve used a CPAP for over 20 years. I was diagnosed at 24. I’m going to try adding a wedge to see if it helps as well.
Im a nurse of 30 years, and have lost complete faith in our modern medicine -
People are fallible, and so are all systems. Hard news , but when believed, we are free to forgive fallible and find the TRUTH ourselves. Find INFALLIBLE and never be let down. What you describe makes us worship things Above---looking above what is in our faces. I hear you---been there!
Oral appliance should not be used for people with TMD according to my pulmonary PA.
@Deltanurse Definitely agree. X-Ray Technologist for 45 years.
I tape my mouth shut because the cpap shoots air in my eyes, and loses suction on my cheeks etc, it dries my mouth and throat so bad my throat sticks to itself, the silicone causes cold sores where it touches! I have tried everything and adjusted all ways, tried different masks, chin slings, and paid for lots of these things myself! Including climate control tubing! Nothing works but my cin drops open so the NexCare tape keeps my chin from dropping open and keeps lips closed! That works!
Sounds good. I use CoverRoll stretch tape, with self adhesive surgical bandage wrapped over it to keep it from loosening, and a soft cervical collar on my neck to prevent chin dropping.
I also use the NextCare tape along with a breathe right strip on my nose. I also wear a cervical collar.
I breath through my mouth so I need the full face mask. I'm having a hard time finding the right CPAP settings. It's been almost two weeks. I don't feel any better than before I started even though my numbers look better. The first week I felt way worse.
Same with me! Not looking good for me to continue this thing, I'm aggravated they didn't even tell me there were alternatives, I would have rather tried a mouthpiece first, shame on me for not doing my own due diligence first! I usually do, ugh!
Im Going through this at the moment first started noticing my constant painful throat now I am so tired two hours into the morning and I can't seem to shake this off I know I need to get it checked out im just to tired for that too.
Great interview, learned a lot. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I’ve been using a CPAP machine for about five years, and I’m incredibly grateful to have it. I wouldn’t be able to sleep without it, as I literally choke in my sleep. It takes a good two weeks to get used to, but once you do, it becomes automatic-just like breathing. You simply put it on, and it’s done. Sleeping without a CPAP when you need one can lead to severe heart problems later on. So don’t be reckless-don’t risk your health.
I was told I had sleep central sleep apnea, and that I would stop breathing often and gasp for air often. Was given a cpap and found could not use it due to bloating which aggravated a medical procedure I've had. Years later I wondered if I had apnea, and if so, would it be caught on a recorder? so I downloaded a recording app for phone and put it on the bedside table. Recorded all night long, several nights, and never once did I stop breathing, and didn't gasp for air at any point.
Very informative. I have a pulmonary appointment coming up and partially will be reviewing my sleep study that puts me at a 7 where previously I was at a high normal of 5. I know he will be pushing for a cpap but I am resistant for these reasons: 1) I have some instances where all of a sudden while sleeping I can not exhale through my nose and air is forced out through my mouth. It wakes me up immediately. If I can't exhale, I think the cpap will make matters worse. My ENT doc thinks I am crazy :) 2) I know partially what the problem is with some obstructive issues is that i like to sleep with my pillow scrunched up under my neck. If I just push in on my throat as a test I can replecate the same thing. I think it is more of a pillow placement thing. For those reasons, I am going to kinda push back on getting a cpap and see if I modify my sleep position if that will help and do another sleep test in a year. What do you think?
Consider that the CPAP will increase the air pressure in your nose helping to clear it whether the air is moving in or out. You might also improve from some nasal clearing procedures to physically have more room to breath.
@@cadenrolland5250 If you use a humidifier bottle with a CPAP, the humidified air alone is helpful for a lot of people.
I had the same problem with Cpap pushing air out thru my mouth and waking me up. By "7", do you mean "events per hour" ? If so, that is nothing compared to people that get 60 or 100 events per hour. in my non-doctor opinion, 7 is not a level of "you MUST use CPAP".
@@justsomeguy5490 Thx for response. No... the 7 and 5 numbers refer to the overall score they give you, not the number of events. 1-5 is considered normal; 7 is mildly abnormal but not concerning.
Concerning the oral treatment, what if you have dentures?
I've been on full face CPAP for 6 years now. My Dr says I'm her rock star lol. I wear it every night. I wear it because it made a drastic difference in the tried feeling I had all day. I've lost 40# in the last year. I've gotten my air turned down. I'll have to still wear it. I was told after my study that I had a small airway. I still have my tonsils. Unfortunately everything sags when you are elderly .🙁
The information was very informative, thank you.
Any comments on the F40 hybrid mask?
It took me months and several different styles. Now I use the nasal cup and 2 InstaClear nasal strips. I actually look forward to my breathing machine! If I am stuffed up and can't breathe, that forced, moist air opens my sinuses up. I am no longer tired during the day and wake up refreshed! I am now able to nose breath during the day.
I have a stuffy nose and am concerned a CPAP will worsen the condition, with the turbinates swelling to "slow down" the extra air to moisten it, causing the CPAP to increase in pressure again. I saw a video about this.
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Minute 4.00 about a congested nose.
@@jenniferkimaustin I used to be a mouth breather because my nose was always stuffed up. One of the tricks I used was putting on the nose cup and letting the machine push air through my sinuses and out of my mouth for several minutes. The daily use of the breathing machine has turned me into a nose breather.
I already have a sleep problem. Could not sleep with the CPap the hose was a big problem. I am awake with the slightest interference. I sold my machine. My friend has been threatened by his doctor if he doesn't wear it 4 hours a night he will have his driver's license taken. So he is in a trap. Nothing else has been offered to him. Now he can not sleep at all.
Sorry to hear that! You or your friend could try www.empowersleep.com/ or www.sliiip.com/, both are reputable online sleep clinics that can help people find other treatment options.
Try a hose hanger.
This info is so interesting, as I've been using a C-PAP machine for lots of years, and I'm interested in the tongue-shocking device to wear at night. So my tongue isn't strong, I'm realizing. How to I go about gettng checked out for it? I live in Jacksonville FL and will move to Gainesville by the new year.
Are there any options for people like me who don't have that kind of apnea? I have apnea from airway reflux - acid reflux flaring up the airways, or at least the opening to the airways. When I'm flared up I have apnea, and when I'm not I don't. It has nothing to do with my tongue or jaw.
Cpap stops my snoring but I still wake up tired what could that be?
How do you get it to be DOT compliant?
I suffer from.massive hypersomnia but mild sleep apnea no.snoring. im 130 pounds. So far no answers. Cpap did.nothing but giving me bloating. Could it be central?😢
Sorry to hear that! Worth talking to your sleep doc to see if they can change the CPAP settings. Or you could try Empower Sleep, they're great at troubleshooting sleep issues and coming up with creative solutions: www.empowersleep.com/
Try a consultation with Lanky Lefty.
Very informative Doctors...
Thank You
I wake up feeling dizzy and it last all day when using ny cpap machine. I'm not using it anymore. I am going to look into the oral device. Feeling disoriented and dizzy is no fun.
Thank you for your video. I am learning since last week I was told I have Sleep Apnea. I need other options 🙏.
The air compressor was a terrifying experience for me.
I tested it for the first time at the Clinic. The physiotherapist gave me different nose applicators. I struggled with full mask and went for what they call pillows (plugged to my nostrils).
At the clinic, the air flow was low and gentle however I still struggled and couldn’t tolerate it but I took it home hoping I was going to gradually get used to it. My shock was when at home the air pressure was too strong, actually it was a sudden, totally unexpected aggressive blown. It was controlled remotely to pump in and continuously a volume of air that I could not exhale, my lungs, my ears, my mouth kept inflating to a point I felt my lungs were going to burst. I gave it up because sleep is about not feeling stressed or uncomfortable.
I only used it for few seconds and 4 days have passed and I have an uncomfortable sensation. This compressor left my upper lungs, throat, and ears feeling like I just had a accident.
I bought a new bed to raise my upper body and my sleep has improved. I sleep side ways so the weight of the tongue’s muscle won’t collapse the traquea.
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Omg as I read your story I thought I had written it myself. This is exactly what happened to me however when I came home the air pressure was insane! I became dizzy and my vision was blurring left me so anxious. I received mine a few days ago so when I have time I’ll call during the week to get someone to help with pressure or to see if they can help me but this seems to be very difficult to use. I was barely able to breathe when I tried it out at the place with the respiratory therapist but it was more manageable but not long term. In my case I gained a lot of weight these past two years so I know what I have to do to get rid of this because I did not have it before it’s just so difficult
@@mjhmr8get the CPAP pressure lowered to the lowest pressure to start, take it off auto adjust, set the epr to the lowest setting to start for pressure when exhaling, adjust your tube temperature and humidity level to the temperature and humidity level most comfortable for you then you may be able to get used to CPAP treatment. I had to have the pressure lowered to 4 (lowest pressure for a resmed 10 air sense machine, the epr at 3, the temperature set to 70, and the humidity level for the tube set to 1. Good luck with getting your machine settings adjusted and getting used to CPAP treatment, it's all possible! Also, find a comfortable mask. Insurance companies will pay for a second mask if you call the CPAP company within the first thirty days and let the CPAP company know that the first mask isn't working well for you. Wishing you good luck!
Does the mouthpiece help with people that have serve apnea
No link to paper of 9 different causes of s/a in the video description
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How do I get the links why on U-tube ?..
I have severe sleep apnea and am not using anything at the moment, I tried CPAP, I hated it. Never slept one night with it, I really couldn't get used to pushing back against my breath. Plus I can't sleep well on my back AT ALL, my side I can somewhere. I don't want inspire either as I don't want an implant in my body, plus it doesn't stop all episodes. I want a mouth guard/mouthpiece that can hold it open, or the DNA appliance, I can't find anyone in my area who accepts my insurance who will give me one of those. Are any of you on them?
Also, is there any option that does for your throat what braces do for your teeth? Whereas braces eventually straighten your teeth, is there anything I can use that will eventually widen my throat?
Try the exhalation pressure relief settings.
Look into NightLase. It's a procedure that utilizes laser therapy to 'tighten' the skin at the back of the throat. Think of it as a facelift for your throat! I had it done at my dentist's office, and I believe it has helped. I also received a SomnoDent oral device from him. I will be doing a 'test of cure' sleep study in December, but won't get results til January. Good luck!
@@margarethenshaw8273 I need to to a REAL sleep speciailist who know about many treatments, one that is well-informed and doesn't just know about CPAP or Inspire and is UP TO date on the latest treatments
Your dentist sounds well informed and not like the stone age medical providers I mean who are so far behind they don't even use anesthesia, but try to have someone punch me out to do the work
Good morning sir excellent exercises thank you so much 🎉🎉
How about Nightlase?
I couldn't handle the CPAP. The oral devices didn't work either. Nasal opening devices wouldn't work either. I was warned that surgery could have some very bad side effects, like having problems swallowing. I've given up on ever curing my sleep apnia.
Been using a cpap for 5 years but in the last two years I've developed teeth splaying and now my teeth don't come together at the front or back. My dentist says this is from tongue thrusting. What would cause a 60 year old woman to develop tongue thrust? Is it from the cpap? I also have TMJ which kind of complicates things and my sleep apnea is mod to severe so the dentist says I should stick to a cpap. I'm not happy that my teeth are going to continue to get worse but what do I do about it?
I don’t see the links
Here it is: www.supersleepmd.com/osa-contributors , it is also now available in the video description. Hope that helps!
Well I am 52 and I have always had sleep apnea. Even as a kid I was always sleepy in school, never could remember things and teachers just thought you were being lazy. When I got older, everyone said, oh you need to lose weight and that will solve but when I was a kid I was skinny. I weighed 135 pounds and 5 foot 9 when I graduated high school. So I know weight has nothing to do with it. I always had a nose issue as it was always congested. But I use a nasal mask but I still don't get enough sleep and still forgetful. I even used a full mask and it didn't help. I don't know what to do and my sleep doctor not sure either. If it is my deviated septum, I'm not sure that Inspire would even help??.
Do you have a deviated septum? I have a deviated septum and getting surgery soon.
I have heard similar stories from a lot of people with sleep apnea. It seems to me that sleep apnea is actually what causes weight gain for some people, so telling a person to lose weight without knowing the cause or removing it is unhelpful.
I’ve had a sinus surgery and it didn’t help. Glad I did it though it was a life changer. Just didn’t do any thing for sleep apnea. Some dr’s say it can be due to the brain.
@@CyberTranceHero69 Please do your research on ENS ( empty nose syndrome ) before you go under any nose surgery !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dr's usually "forget" to mention it to patients ! I decided NOT to go through my surgery. I have OSA and I can't tolerate CPAP.
@@CyberTranceHero69 Could be that, or several other nose (or throat) issues. In my case, collapsed internal valves in my nose. Which is Rhinoplasty ("spreader grafts"), not septoplasty. A lot of ENT's only do septoplasty, so tell all their patients that they need septoplasty & coblation.
I have central sleep apnea. Is there anything I can use?
I have central sleep apnea too. People don't understand it's caused by the brain not sending the signals to the lungs and diaphragm to breathe. We wake up gasping for air or can't get a good night's sleep because of it. There is a newer device similar to the Inspire for both csa and osa. Sleep doctors continue to push the cpap / bipap machines even though they really don't help with csa. If you have csa, you'll almost always be diagnosed with mixed sleep apnea even if your sleep study says it's csa. Why? Because the doctors can then continue to insist you go on cpap. It's financially beneficial to the health care systems to have you on a cpap machine.
@@tomkatishere People also dont understand how physical and mentally exhausting this central sleep apnea can be
Muscles so tight in morning and the pain from DDD disease in back. Makes mind afraid to go to sleep? Deep anyway from the stree of low oxygen at times.
Superb! Thank you so much
I should have performed a basic experiment to test the air compressor before exposing your lungs 🫁 my ears, and my throat to an aggressive level 10 air blow.
If I plug the hose into a balloon at level 10 🎈 and press it with my hands to simulate the natural exhale 😮💨, The balloon would have bursted eventually because there’s more volume of air getting in than getting out. I was told to breath normal as when you are resting. But I was wrestling with the air flow instead. 😤
CPAP masks have an exhalation port that stays open. Pressure cannot build like it does in a balloon.
I hate wearing mine and now with the ever rising cost of power, I can no longer afford to even wear it!
When they did my sleep study, my oxygen SATS were at 60% and I NEVER entered REM sleep.
I wake up every day so tired, with a raging headache and I'm tired ALL DAY!
All because my ex husband broke my nose so many times - HE SHOULD BE FORCED TO WEAR THE BLOODY THING 😭💔
Boy, you asked for some common sense way too late in life. Karma is a bummer next time around. A hard hard life you did. Better choices, next time. Keep on learning!😊
A c pap machine uses a lot of power??
Hi. I have been suffering from sleep apnea since 4 years. I use Cpap and mad device every night. I used to take my sleep videos regularly. What I observed is that even if I use Cpap and MAD, I would have disturbed sleep on my back but side sleeping was ok. I also observed that when I sleep on my back and fold my knees upwards I would breath better. Is there any device which folds my knees when I sleep on back? I also used slumber bump to avoid back sleeping for 3 years and now may be bcoz of that sleeping with that on my left side has become a problem for my heart. Can you tell any device which lifts my knees up when I sleep on back?.
What MD’s should be doing is obtaining a Sleep Induced Endoscopy to find the specific problem, as it may be different for everyone. So she’s absolutely incorrect, CPAP IS NOT THE GOLD STANDARD. It’s the easiest treatment under the Rothschild medical management. We absolutely need more functional and holistic medicine doctors in this world.
Drug-Induced Sleep Endoscopy can be helpful, but not recommended as a first-line diagnostic tool. It is helpful, however, for people who can't tolerate PAP therapy or who need a more detailed airway examination to determine treatment. Per the American Academy of Sleep Medicine (AASM) guidelines, CPAP is the gold standard treatment. I am a functional and holistic medicine trained physician, in addition to being board certified in sleep medicine, and agree with you that there are lots of options available and personalized care is the most important. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@IntraBalance That’s the problem. Everyone follows Rockefeller medicine. Go figure
Excellent point. I finally got a Sleep induced Endoscopy, but only as a prequel to being evaluated for the Inspire Device, which I decided I don't want. The endoscopy doc said my tongue was the problem, but I think that may have been just to do an expensive Inspire surgery. The medical system in the US is rigged to make money.
21+ CPAP alternatives is over $500, is there anywhere I could get these treatments described elsewhere?
Unfortunately it is not about YOUR health. It is a business and you are just a number .
@@vt7814 I don't mind paying for a "good good(product)" or service if I feel it's worth it and meets or exceeds my expectations, $500 is NOT worth it, however.
I used ExciteOSA. I have mild sleep apnea. It seemed to help considerably -- however, the mouth pieces have been on backorder for almost the entire year so far, leaving me with a device I have spent over $1200 CDN on completely useless. I've even tried ordering one from stores in the USA and everyone is out of stock. Infuriating.
I was just Dx with mod OSA b.c of an enlarged tongue (doctor says it is a genetic condition) so was thinking of ordering this device. I am also from Canada. Now I am concerned about the delay you mention...
I’ve been monitoring my sleep with the Apple Watch and it looks like I probably have sleep apnea. I can’t get to a doctor until next year. I hope I don’t need a cpap machine because I have super sensitive skin and I know the mask will probably make my face itch like mad. Wearing the mask during Covid also made my face itch.
It amazes me how long it's taking people to see a doctor. I'm in Louisville, KY and I got an appointment with the Sleep Medicine Center within three days and did my sleep study within the week. Now, one week later I'm being fitted for my CPAP machine.
@@pbaker0514 I don’t know about other people, but in my case it’s because I’ve been off work and therefore I won’t have insurance again until a few months after I go back.
😅 6:19 ❤ 6:25 😊I am not over weight😮😂❤🎉😢😅 WHAT ABOUT Central sleep Apnea which i have?
I had challenges with initiation due to getting Covid and cough, then mask fit issues. Finally got everything working good and using it all night and insurance is making me give it back because I didn’t meet the 4 hours a night consecutively for 30 days in a row.
Maybe the gold standard more like the easy option to get someone out the door. CPAP has given me GERD / GORD which is never given as a side effect. My consultant said iam treating the secondary illness with PPI's where i should be dealing with the primary illness sleep apnea.
I have been using CPAP for many, many years. The mask/nasal pillows make falling asleep difficult. Once asleep CPAP is good. My OSA is due to a short mandible. Would the air lift surgery be a good fit for someone with a shortened jaw bone? I was very thin when I started CPAP so weight wasn't an issue. Also, dental appliances may be an issue since I have severe TMJ.
I have bad allergies as well so I often block up more when I use my CPAP.
Thanks for this vid Ryan
Where is the PDF for the 9 different causes of sleep apnea?
Will check with Dr. Wells and post the link shortly
Here it is: drive.google.com/file/d/1sW11FDPL3PNIF_4QgA_9wyOqI5SzZbu4/view?usp=drive_link
I have no trouble sleeping with my cpap, been doing it 20 years.. I just hate it. I have a severe deviated septum so full face mask is what I have to use... mouth breather) what I hate is that I'm a belly sleeper and the mask leaves horrendous marks on my face that last all day... it's embarrassing. I can't sleep on my back or sides as I always wind up on my belly. I've lost weight and now I'm thinking about crap canning my cpap as I've never noticed any difference in how sleepy I am. My health ring tells me I get plenty of deep and REM sleep so not sure if I've ever really needed this cpap? I've had 3 sleep studies, all when I was overweight and the last one they said I didn't have sleep apnea .. I think they got passed because I kept rolling onto my belly. Anyway, I'm going to try getting off this thing and just focus on breathing exercises, walking and continuing my carnivore eating. I'm 62, with 180 and I'm in pretty good health.
@@IntraBalance I got it Thank You!
@@davetoms63 Wow, I just now read your response. Thank you Davetom, it was very informative. I feel exactly as you do about this CPA crap. We are the same age. How did you lose your weight? How much weight did you lose? I always wondered if sleep apnea would disappear if I slept on my belly.
What CPAP alternatives do you recommend to your patients? Let me know in the comments!
Acupuncture treatments & changing foods during the day & meditation thoughts before 😴. Many other ways !!! ❤❤❤❤❤
This CPAP Masjine, if it is not the mask, it's the strap that breaks, my husband, sleeps with this mask and air escapes, more than he sleeps, I keep waking him up, he still snore with the mask on, and it's so irritating for me, to keep waking him up, or asking him to turn on his side, to prevent him from choking, thank you for your video,
Figure out why it's leaking. Get the right mask and adjust it properly.
Is there a certain side you sleep that can help sleep apnea?
I think left is best - no GERD.
The oral appliance will not work if people do not have all their molars. Dentists wont make them for you if back teeth are missing. They dont want to change your bite and ruin your other teeth. The TAP Device definately changes your bite. I didnt test after I got mine, but I could tell it worked b/c I was not tired anymore. 😊 If you have severe sleep apnea, the mouth devices do not work as well.
I have used one for 30yrs and hated the discomfort from day 1. I'm on my 2nd machine. I cut the straps off both, lay on my side, prop my hand under my cheek and hold the mask in place to try to sleep. Recently I received a letter stating my machine was recalled because of magnets causing interruptions for anyone wearing metal. No mention of the carcogenetic foam contained in it. I found that out later from another source. So for 30 years I have been breathing in toxic foam particiles. I have reached my limit with medical practices and can't trust them so after all this time I stopped using it all together. I never had relief from the debilitating exhaustion and the conflicting advice from different doctors. So I am done!
It seems everyone i know who did the sleep evaluation needed the machine. I think its a damn scam. No.test or machine for me. Its been a good run on life & when i go. I go.
Ironic that people usually only do a test if it is strongly suspected that they need a machine. But you do you buddy.
There us a dr on here talking about vitamins to help sleep apnea
Info on sleep apnea
Replacement for CPAP
They have a newer device where you stick a plug in each nostril. Nothing else. No machine, mask, headgear, hoses and humidifiers. With 1 kind, you replace it every 90 days. It is FDA approved and you need a prescription. The other device works the same but isn't FDA approved and you don't need a prescription. You replace it once a year. Both are available through Apria, a medical supply company. I think both of them cost under $500 per year. Check first, you can probably use your FSA / HRA caed to pay for it.
Could you be more specific about the plug device you’re speaking of ? You mean it’s a plug in the nostril, but is it attached to a machine or whatever? Thank you, I’m interested.
The plugs that go in your nose for the treatment of obstructive sleep apnea are not connected to a machine. If the plug seal is tight enough in your nose, no headgear is needed. The plugs don't help with central sleep apnea. The FDA approved product is AirAvant Bongo RX and needs to be replaced every 3 months. A doctor's prescription is neeeed. Optipillows is not FDA approved but only needs to be replaced once a year. It doesn't need a prescription. The starting costs of Optipillows are much less than Bongo and since it is only replaced once a year, it is significantly cheaper. Both are EPAP devices.
I have used to CPAP more than 15 years. I find it I need to wear the CPAP even when I’m not sleeping because I can’t put it on because it wakes me up if I’m sleepy. So it registers eight hours sometimes but when I look back at my heart rate etc. on my watch it shows that I was awake and I know I was awake because sometimes I’ll be watching TV for an hour and a half and it will say I’m asleep because I’m still. I know you say the tongue isn’t an issue most of the time but my tongue is huge it doesn’t fit in the bottom of my mouth and I don’t know if that’s because of braces or the fact I have small teeth and small jaw. Who should I go to for all of these weird things I have going on?
It sounds like you're already as smart as any doctor you'd go to. Keep using the CPAP.
I really struggled with masks until I found the dreamwear nasal masks. Full face mask is a non starter for me because I'm a side sleeper.
I tried two machines and couldn't use either one. I went back to the dr on the second one and his assistant did not follow through with me, even though I called and called and called. I tried. She wasn't interested in helping me. She just sent me to the place that gave me the device. I had to share the meeting with another patient and I had no privacy. So they were not really interested in helping me. I tried a third time to go back... the air flow was so high that it felt like it was blowing out my ear drums and I think it actually hurt my hearing because I woke up with ear aches. I can not force people to do their jobs. This is what you find in the medical system... Just give me the money and go away.
That’s awful! Sorry you had that experience. Hope you don’t give up on treatment and can find a better clinic to help you.
There are ways to lower the pressure. You tube😊 can show you. Also, I've found that not using the ramp-up, where it gradually increases pressure, but just starting and staying at a lower pressure was more comfortable. You can adjust the settings even though they make you feel like you're doing something unlawful.
Use auto cpap
If you are on Medicare, file a complaint with the Medicare office near you. You pay premiums every month. We all need to file complaints if we aren't getting the cars and respect we deserve from our doctors and medical staff. If enough people start demanding our health systems change, eventually it will.
Severe sleep apnea can require higher air pressure than a CPAP can apply. At that point, CPAP machines cannot work as the only medical treatment for sleep apnea. Successful CPAP treatment requires more than a sleep study and requires sleep training and support consultations. Childhood sleep apnea can be triggered by nasal congestion/inflammation or asthma due to an immune response to air pollution/allergens
Gargling with salt water helps inflammation too.
Been fighting for years fighting with my mask. I don't sleep well. Get up still tired.
Spend time analysing the problem during the day. You can't solve it in the middle of the night.
I have had tremendous success with a mouthpiece custom made by my dentist. Unfortunately, after many years of nightly use, it is now damaged. My insurance must have a referral from my PCP. His office doesn't seem to know what this is. Ugh.
Many years? Go have a new sleep study. They, in turn, will refer you to a dentist for thecustom device.
@@margarethenshaw8273 Thank you. This is sound advice.
What does it mean you're not necessarily a candidate for a procedure? Why can someone do cosmetic plastic surgery any number of times and they cant be eligible for an operation that can help them with a condition as serious as sleep apnea? I honestly dont understand the limitation
Cpap isn't necessary for folks who have and live with sleep apnea. 1. Control your weight. if you're over-weight, Get down to your proper natural Weight. 2. Elevate the head of your bed to keep any acid reflux or digested foods, in your stomach. 3. have the medical Comunnity study your Esophageal Flap function. without an esophageal flap, Your digested foods in your stomach migrate back up your esophagus and if your bed isn't elevated, will lodge in your throat. When you start to snore, You'll inhale the digested foods thus cutting off your airway. These 3 steps will make sure you wake up the following morning to live yet another day.
We suggest our patients place elevation devices under the bed frame at the head of the bed or a wedge under the mattress…the idea being that you don’t have elevation cushions that you can push aside while sleeping.
not in ALL cases, though you may be right in MOST. There are people, like someone in this thread that says he had it all his life, nobody is BORN fat are they? By esophageal flap, you mean SPHINCTER muscle don't you?
Thank you very much for your fact experienced, it's helpful. Thanks again.
@thesnare100 i was guessing 'epiglottis' was the intention?????
I've tried elevation. Cannot sleep that way. I have to be flat, have to be on my side.