Stihl 500i - 1st Look!!! - Latest West Coast Version Max-Flow "Brush Cover"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Filmed in December, 2021
A little bit of walking down memory lane, where, my memory was taxed...
It started in late February or early March on 2019 with a gracious move by my buddy Dave in Ireland.
After 4/5 months of talking with Joseph via phone, he gets a hands on view of a 500i in June of 2020.
~ November 2020 I get the 1st rendition prototype cover for inspection. I alter a couple of aspects of the cover and also offer feedback in the form of the need for the baffle that the new cover seen here has.
I do saw testing and go on sabbatical in January 2021. I offer furtherance on the need for more protection over the top of the element.
As stated in this video, it's not just rain protection. It needed additional coverage over the top of the element so that when a guy gets in the blackberries, salmon berries, huckleberries, Rhododendron, small Sitka spruce trees, etc., etc., etc. the element does not get damaged. Those that have spent time in the PNW, out on the coast, in the brush will get my drift here...
After the summer version cover was released, a few others had also expressed concern about the rain causing damage to the saw. I never heard that anyone else had mentioned anything about the brush factor.
Field testing yields the need to alter the new baffle, shroud (cylinder cover) or a combination of them both.
Through one of the many "convo-s" I was lucky enough to have with Joseph, he started calling the latest rendition a "brush cover". I "kinda" like it. Hope it sticks.
A guy can easily have two covers. One for the dry months where the brush load is low. And one for when it is wet or working in a thicket.
The summer version will allow more of the heat from the engine to escape also.
Wrapping it up, a long road with many supply chain issues, revisions, testing the revisions, and a lot of associated costs making the revisions.
The end result - AWESOME factory level quality product.
At the time of your viewing this, I may, or may not, be immediately available for custom saw modifications. I am booked out several months regularly. If you are interested in having a saw zipped, please shoot me an email. That is the best, first point of contact.
danger_cat@rocketmail.com
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Hello. I'm fortunate to have been in on some of the testing and being able to offer feedback for "upgrades" along the way for the 500i Max-Flow "Brush" cover. So, God was smiling on me there. The description has a little additional information.
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Thank you for real content i really appreciate it, not like ironhorse crap.
I was disappointed with the summer cover, too.
Appreciate u sharing ur information sir. Have a good week
Mr. Jack I would like to compliment you on this episode and wish you and yours happy holidays....
Was out in the wood again have this one?
I guess I don’t understand why Stihl hasn’t addressed this intake system issue. Surely they will if they want their consumers to purchase the machine🤷🏻♂️
Doug hi. They have. Almost carbon copied the "air injection design" off the Jonsered then to Husky system on the "new & improved" one piece cylinder cover/air cleaner cover configuration as seen in the 261, 362, etc.
I had heard from a dealer that Stihl did such a fine job on the "copying" that they ended up in court over it.
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I have a 462 with 28 inch bar & I'd like it to cut faster should I put a 8 tooth sprocket on it? And should I try a full skid or partial skip chain? Thanks for your time
Tac hi.
Depends upon a few factors.
The wood type, or density, plays a role. There was no indication of the species you are "gnawing" on.
The way the chain is set up will also be a consideration. I.E. a skip chain will cut in certain applications better than a comp chain when all things between them are equal. And then of course, it's vice versa.
The skip may cut better at first but then get wood dull faster and cut slower than a comp chain at the end of the day.
My recommendation would be to try the loops in your area with your chain setup as you normally do. It is the only way for you to tell how your input affects the outcome.
462s are severely lacking in the lowend grunt department. I'd stick with a 7 tooth rim and refine my chain personally.
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@@hotsaws101 I cutting mostly hard woods like red oak,sugar maple,hickory & black cherry, thanks for your input brother
you should have jack square grind you chain ...
Looks nice, giving me a Batman kind of vibe
Any insight as to why Stihl does the husky style air injection on some saws and not on others?
ahineman123 hi. Now that you mention it... Agreed.
They do. See the response to Mr. Indiana Doug.
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Stihl and Husqvarna should consult with Jack before they put out any new model chainsaws. In a New York minute I purchase a Jack Beeler Signature Endorsed chainsaw. Best saw on God’s green earth!
I've talked to Husqvarna engineers. I've talked to the liaisons of Stihl engineers.
Keeping in mind that I'm a nobody, I have made a few suggestions. I have pointed out some areas that need improvement.
There is a language barrier. Us WestCoastys have a bit of a unique dialect. It took walking across the shop and putting the hands of a liaison's hands on a 592xp for him to understand some of the differential I had tried for 10/15 mimutes to verbally explain. Took him about 10/15 seconds to grasp it at the points.
I did offer to "take a road trip" to Germany, lol.
Some of it is - when you are talking to someone who doesn't know that much, they might not understand how much the other guy knows.
And then, there is TMI. They go on a road trip for weeks at a time. Talk to "oobles" of users. White Noise...
Some people just click as well. Just because you and I click doesn't mean you should listen to me, lol.
Some of what engineers deal with are budget constraints. My cousin, for example, works for Intel. Her job is to tell the engineers that come up with these "super awesome" ideas is NO. I had an engineer with Husqvarna tell the same.
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Do you reckon the setup will work fine without a trim using smaller bars? 25 is the biggest bar i have on my 500i. Smaller bars in scotland 😆
Morgan hi. Anything is possible. But in all reality, I doubt it. The spring mounts system in the 500i is REALLY weak.
It gets more pronounced as time goes on with them too.
Trimming the cylinder cover (shroud) is a pretty easy process to do.
Best of luck & thanks for watching.
Which saw is 'better' zipped for hard woods...a Ms462c or a 500i?
John hi.
How big are the hardwoods?
How dense are the hardwoods?
Will there be any in tree work?
Will there be any miles long army marches getting to the place if cutting?
How long of a bar will be used?
Does overall cost have any bearing?
Is fuel mileage a consideration?
Is the amount of time spent actually sawing in the cut important?
I consider many factors when deciding which saw to use and/or recommend.
If cutting speed (better) is the only point being looked at, then the 500i would be the choice.
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Do you still recommend belray h1r? I have a ported 500i
H H hi. Yes, I do recommend it for my clients in many applications.
However, you need to verify with your particular tuner. It's not my place to be interfering with that relationship.
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I avoid wasting money by simply using a green foam filter over the stock filter remove some minor plastic under the stock cover and it fits tight and looks like stock.
Not sure how making sure the saw doesn't get any fines down the carb throat is considered wasting money...
Pretty sure the HD2 wasn't designed/tested by the factory Boys to have impedance.
The engagement of the locking nut on the stock system is lacking. Part of the reason why the factory assembly leaks.
Also, the entire premise of foam is to not have the "it fits tight" scenario happening.
Y buy - because the Maxy will last for an entire day in the very worst dust conditions. 2 ½ days of normal cutting.
Easier to hide the Max-Flow adorned saw in your strip - so it will be in the same spot you left for falling timber tomorrow.
+,,, the Maxy system just plain looks cool.
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thank you for the videos Jack.. i use the old fashion humbolt all the time when i need to swing a big tree.. i have learned a lot watching you.maybe you could do a video on tape measures sometime.. of all my equipment, my tape gives me the most trouble. do you have any secrets you could share?
Robert hi
I might be able to "show" some of the infamous "secrets that the pros won't tell you" type video there at some point, lol.
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Áre you OK?
now that most of you big trees have been cut, the east coast has pine just as big as most i see... the ground is straight up and down, . so im not sure what these west coast conditions are. but i only run 395s with 28 -32- 36. irs still logging . its not all rainbows and unicorn farts.. irs still a rugged jungle.. i cut my trees to 6- 16 foot which is 99 feet. i set my roads up to take them whole...so come on give the east coast some respect ..
Mr. Robert, my perception of his commentary is not disrespectful, but rather matter of fact, I cut some large stumps, but the length and height may be the uniqueness of the situation on the west coast....friends and family.....Merry Christmas Mr. Robert...
@@Brian2bears i agree.. but im pulling 99 foot stems so trees are 125 + and hold there girth .. im using saws set up like you. big dogs big bars. thats all saying. merry Christmas my friend
Robert hi.
There is still a lot of bigger timber in the West. With the tree hugging mentality however, most of it will probably just go to waste in a fire or die standing, then fall over, and continue to decay.
When you talk about setting up your roads, I think that there will be a machine on the ground skidding the logs and or trees.
From talking to clients in many areas of the East, I found that the majority of the ground seems to be workable by machines. Seems that the majority run short bars & because it is easy access from all sides of the tree. That is one of the differentials.
I've talked to fallers from the West that have ventured to the East for a season or three. I've talked to fallers from the East that have ventured out West. Everyone says the same - the ground is more rough out on the West Coast.
One thing though, the new development over here is to send a larger "shovel" down over the bank falling, all the while wreaking havoc on the Terra Firma.
Another would be item of difference is along the lines of what Mr. Brian was eluding to. Trees that are 18" and 2' on the stump can be the three long logs tall number you mentioned. I've seen it tens of thousands of times. There are a lot of trees on this channel that were 4 to 5 long logs (160 to 200') tall standing there.
Nobody is bagging on your operation. It doesn't seem like what you have is the norm, however.
Having felled some larger hardwoods, I know that some of them require a different technique, also.
Steep ground is always more of a challenge, that's a given. Seems like the ground is on the longer side on the right coast due to the old age of the mountains. The left coast has mostly younger mountains. Actual coastal ground can be extremely choppy. It is the choppy ground that seperates the ranks.
On the NorCal Coast there is a place called Salmon Creek. It has some of the most erosive soil in the state. With all the chunks that litter that drainage, the ridges, old stumps, occasional 12+ foot windfall running diagonal in the strip, and just general short ground, it's one of the most dangerous places to cut timber. It's like falling trees in a waffle iron. I literally told a well ( 20/30 years on old growth Redwoods 10+ feet on the stump, fir, spruce, hemlock, sugar & ponderosa pine etc., 4 to 10 feet on the stump type timber ranging 4 to 8 long logs tall - so 160' to 320') seasoned faller on his first morning, "if you can find 60 feet of ground, you better take it and be happy."
He almost died the second day.
That might be the difference people are talking about when referencing the falling and/or yarding conditions in the PNW.
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Get on with it man ....to the point please
Look buddy, clearly what happens on this channel is not to your liking. It's been the same complaining on the three related videos in this sequence.
Instead of whining about it, exercise you right as an "adult" and go view something else. Nobody forced you to watch ANY of my productions.
GEEEESH...
Jealousy? Possibly even envy?
Well at this point 724 likes and 20,000 views on this "maxflow series", I had to look at that to make sure I was not the only one that thought it was pretty good. I try to comment as if I were in a log yard or in his personal shop or out behind the woodshed, with him. How would I want him to speak to me? As viewers of his material how does he speak to us?
what ever jack shares its a gift.. some people if you are lucky enough to here them talk, you just listen and hang on every word..i dont even like stihl. but i still watch cause i might pick up a nugget of wisdom
@@AxeInTheKerf jack is one of the few id love to have as a neighbor.. the Father has blessed Jack. easy to see..