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- The fatal shooting of Michael Brown in the summer of 2014 sparked a series of protests in Ferguson, Missouri which quickly spread across the country. The strength of the law enforcement response in Ferguson to these protests set off a fierce debate about the increasing militarization of the American police force. Thomas Morton goes to Ferguson at the height of the protests to get an in-depth look at the situation on the ground. He then goes to Urban Shield in Oakland, California and talks to expert Radley Balko to learn how US SWAT teams and police are being trained and how they are getting military grade equipment to police their local communities. Senator Rand Paul discusses the efforts being made in Washington to address this issue, and its underlying causes.
Then, Suroosh Alvi goes to El Salvador to see the conditions that are motivating a mass migration to the US border. Over the last two years, there has been an influx of thousands of Central Americans immigrating to the United States, many of whom are fleeing rampant gang violence in El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala. VICE travels from El Salvador through Mexico to see the perilous journey on top of a network of trains called "The Beast" that many of these immigrants must take in order to get to the United States.
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Thank you for posting 'Vice on HBO' on TH-cam. Much love.
+Jay R
fake likes... what a joke
+ugoodHomeBoy lmfao
it's still surprising tho the amount of little bitches that still find a way to complain despite being fed free content.
Just one point - if you are going to discuss something, please use the correct terminology. There police do not have "tanks" - tanks have one reason for existing - combat. What you see time and again are armored personnel carriers - they were designed to carry people while offering them certain levels of protection from gunfire. To most this a very subtle difference, but its a real one that, when used incorrectly, only ramps up the emotion involved in a very real and very necessary conversation.
wrong inbred, according to DOT code, tank classification is defined by weight and role or intention of the vehicle's use exceeds 15k pounds or greater. Intent of use for combat does not designate it as a tank. Its anytime when you put protective equipment on it and it exceeds the weight of 15k pounds. Because it requires a different class for driver's licensing that you cant use with a Class C license. Look it up dipshit before I make you look stupid.
@@declinetostate.8299 lmfao okay necroreplying Razer fanboy.
STOP TALKING ABOUT TANKS. THERE ARE NO FUCKING TANKS.
+James Franklin THERE ARE ALWAYS TANKS! I'M SITTING ON A TANK RIGHT NOW!
Robin MX In all seriousness though, there are no tanks. Tanks have tracks. I didn't see a single tracked vehilce in this video
+James Franklin 6:03
fpsc0and0stuff i beg your pardon. There's one tracked vehicke. I was probably lighting a spliff at the time.
+James Franklin What is a better term for the GIANT armored vehicles that often feature roof mounted guns? We just got a new one a few years ago. It's 19 ton and mine resistant. www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2014/04/prepared_for_disaster_mine-res.html
And here are your county tanks that have actual tank treads: tankandafvnews.com/2015/11/28/police-m113-gallery/
Man, this is fucked up.
In this episode from season three, Thomas Morton headed to Ferguson at the height of the protests and checked out how SWAT teams were being trained.
Lv the videos
+VICE #BlackLiesMatter
+VICE Vice should post all their season episodes onto youtube. I hope thats what they are doing because I no longer have an HBO account.
+VICE
its more like 'How SWAT teams are recording FALSE FLAGS... all of your other footage is old stock footage from other videos... vice has sold out and its sad to see
+VICE Could someone please explain why there are so many dislikes on so many vice videos. Even though they are amazing
"Is this a raffle?"
"Yeah, 20 dollars can win you an AR-15"
No problem here, move along
I wasn't expecting to see dead people.
***** Wrong. Try again.
1:26 God damn...
+GBoT Savage.
Its so sad people have to live like that. MY hart goes out to all those people.
DAMN! Awesome video as always vice! Keep up the great work!
nice work. raw & uncut.
I couldn't help to notice the reporter on 25:00 saying "This is the Rio Grande River". It is like "the Big River River".
Why aren't they using all this equipment up in Oregon?
because they aren't rioting and looting nor are they throwing molotovs at police.
+Rusty Shackleford Nope, they're just carrying assault weapons and verbally threatening police officials.
+Arlenis B they are legal weapons. They havent shot anyone or killed anyone. There were no threats that i seen. In fact, when they leader met with the cops, it was civil. Nobody was threatened. There is a big difference. Its pretty amazing when you follow the rules and the law. Which is what the people in Oregon are doing. People in Ferguson were not following the law. They were breaking it and even shooting at cops in some cases. Burning down buildings, looting businesses. If you cant see the differences, thats pretty sad.
xUnleadedx Never said they weren't legal. Merely stating a fact. And there is video footage of "milita" members threatening to shoot police officers if confronted. Also, the leader of this "militia" group is not only suspected of tax evasion, but also received a 500k federal loan because he couldn't get a private one. Yet he's anti government?
You are defining an entire civil rights movement by the actions of a few thugs. So I'm going to define this entire "militia" movement by its tax evading leader and the few buffoons stupid enough to threaten law enforcement on camera.
+Arlenis B Still the militia has not hurt anyone, destroyed anything or try to change what happen to a few of there criminal friends into a race issue .
What really Scare's me is that they want to take our guns ,but give the police more guns.
thats what scares me as well
Mark Anthony for real. We can't defend ourselves. But they get an all out Right to shoot people down and get away with it cause they wear a badge..
Thank you for making this
thx for posting vice hbo on here I have hbo at home but for some reason I'd rather watch it while working again much thx
This is amazing! Great documentary. I wonder, is this only happening in Austria? He should do a film shot in the USA.
Only in 'Merica can you win a AR-15 @ a raffle haha
What about the rise of crime in this country? How about presenting both sides of the debate.
Training scenarios are actually very high quality and extremely graphic. It might seem insane but cops not used to seeing such horrific things as dead babies do react negatively in a real situation. An officer in Paris that witnessed the body parts everywhere was reportedly vomiting uncontrollably. He's human, it happens but you dont want that happening when there are still armed men running amok.
Dear Vice, what was that track that was playing towards the end? Thanks in advance
Why when I click on some of the new videos on the Vice channel it says I'm not allowed to see it because I live in America???? What's with that?????
That scene on stage is probably pretty close to what happened in Paris only with out the police presence.
Seeing footage like this feels alien, like its the kind of thing you would see in another country. It's terrifying really.
great series
one of the few vice docs that aren't "complete" propaganda
Those are not tanks, they are APCs ffs.
Thomas is real as fuck. Noisey Atlanta, Syria and now Ferguson, that's a hell of a tour.
to protect and serve literally translates to: to punish and enslave.
Bro no one plays 'dead body'. BTW...... Thankyou for the upload
Those vehicles are not "tanks" they are armored cars.
"you are in violation of a state imposed curfew" jesus man, what a choice of words
Yes our freedom is the primary target as this is the new protect, serve and enslave.
This was so deep I cried
i've heard vice mis use the term "cottage industry" about a dozen times
It's not a tracked "truck" it's a APC not a tracked one.
I guarantee you that if we dropped you off in the middle of Ferguson, Missouri and the police went on strike you would have a whole different attitude towards law enforcement, IF you are lucky enough to survive.
Miron Gaines Exactly
um no. It not the wild wild west over there 😂😂😂 The crime rate in Ferguson wasn't even high. I think they had like 1 homicide that year.
Calm down.
socialchronic Everyone with at least one brain cell knows that under Obama the books get cooked on crime stats.
Former resident here. So yeah...
I know what you WANT to think of Ferguson but the city wasn't the rowdy part of town although it WAS known for speed traps and harassment.
If it was bad it would be a rowdy area police or not . That wasn't the case in Ferguson. I know you see a bunch of black folks and automatically think the worst but 😐
cant wait for this reply
At 10:51, that wasn't the wrong house for a drug search, it was a "Swatting". A prank where someone calls the swat team to someone's location to just fuck with them. It's dangerous but hard to do anything about.
What this video misses is the fact that most police slots are being reseved for Iraq War vets, even to the point of waiving age criteria. The Iraq War was mostly a policing event, meaning that the 'training' these would-be cops are getting started with the marshall law of Falujia in 2005.
What a mother
Crazy what a sense of entitlement can do to ones psychological state.
we should have a sru unit that have all there members trained in psychology and how to handle this but still have swat authority
Next we are gonna see robo cop 😂💯
Not every police officer drives a tank. They are just personel carriers. They are only used by SWAT (Special Weapons And Tactics)
9:32 dr evil poster 🤣🤣
Was this filmed before or after Paris?
Because if it was before, the conspiracy guys will love the short scene of the soldiers in the simulated concert attack!!
4:24 Uhh wtf? That can't possibly be legal.
Literally anyone could buy an armored truck like those with not very much money. They are the same as these "scary assault weapons" that look scary to the misinformed but in the end serve a purpose like any other tool
why can't my friends from this????
I really want them to watch this
It's crazy, in one part of the story its too much order and in the other its not enough order
haven't we already seen these "season 3" episodes?? i thought these were all episodes from last year wtf
+Andrew Barker They weren't on youtube yet, because of a deal with HBO to not upload them till like 11months later. Now that Season 4 is starting soon on HBO, Vice can finally upload these on youtube.
Ohhh sweet thats cool. At least they're open to more people now, thanks for clarifying
Haven't we seen this before?
10:45 to 11:01 is something to take note of.
i was dying they got the wrong house
The protestors need to listen to Police commands..the Police department will never lose their grip on control. It is our responsibility to unite and mobilize and use the power of thought.
Stormtroopers and starship troopers? Combine Soldiers and metrocops would've been a better example :/
theres a huge difference between a normal cop patrol and swap teams.
really similar to the military training i recieved.
is that just a little bit of guitar at the end or is that from a full song... who plays that shit eh!?
sad what this people have to go thru and when they finally get here we treat them like shit.
+EK9GraphicDesign There are too many of them. And how is housing them and feeding them treating them like shit. Are you going to pay for 80,000 latinos to live in the US? What do you think should happen? Should Americans throw them a party when they arrive? They are illegals and there are way too many of them to take in at once. They are lucky they get housed in the warehouses they sleep. How would you suggest we treat them? Just let them stay, take jobs away from ACTUAL citizens? Start gangs and kill people? There is no handbook on how to handle an influx this large.
xUnleadedx We all know how they are treated even when they are legal but.... its true, they have to come here legally.
so let's take the weapons away from the police? i'm sure it will make our society safer #charliehebdo #bataclan #londonattacks #bostonattacks etc etc etc
+ASF2151 Maybe some of them were SWAT, but not all. Body armor, riot gear, and AR-15's are standard-issue now. That equipment is in every police cruiser.
+Marcel Bonaparté Or just restrict the use of these weapons to SWAT deployments in actual SWAT scenarios? Hostage rescue, terrorism, high-risk arrests and the like.
Nowadays 70ish percent of SWAT deployments are for search warrants, mostly related to non-violent drug offenses. 30 percent of SWAT deployments don't result in any arrests, meaning they were unwarranted. Just somehow prevent police from abusing their power. Like a law that they have to pay a fine if they use certain equipment but don't find any firearms or bombs and have every SWAT officer wearing a body cam to avoid them planting guns to justify using their badass shit.
+ASF2151 I'm talking about raids for search warrants if you kick in the door at 3am, point guns at family members who arent even suspected of having anything to do with the alleged crimes of the guy youre looking for,kill some small dog, trash a home and cause hundreds of dollars in property damage and then all you find is 2 joints. Then that's clearly a fuck up and the cops should somehow pay for it and the victim should be very generously compensated. And that money should be taken out of their 1033 funds or somewhere else where the police department feels it. Otherwise their not gonna relearn about how to use an approriate amount of force.
Btw what cop who got shot are you talking about? was that during the ferguson riots? i didnt know about that.
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Nice that we agree on the overuse of SWAT. But I think that is just one of the symptoms of the American police's exaggeragted focus on guns, violence and "cracking down". As Radley Balko mentioned in the video, cops in the US spend 10 to 15 times as many hours at the range, as they do in conflict resolution training. So when they get into a stressful situation, they use the tool they're most familiar with. Which in their case is lethal force. In Europe they spend much more time with communication and conflict resolution, so our cops over here are much more likely to talk someone down instead of just shooting them.
Now before you start using the same reasoning as everybody else when I bring this up, I'm not suggesting that cops should try to negotiate with a terrorist wearing a suicide vest and holding an AK or anything like that. But when the cops outnumber the suspects 3 to 1 and the suspect is unarmed or only armed with a melee weapon, they should first try to get them to give up or use non-lethal force as default. Instead of just shooting anyone who might pose a threat. The community will also respond less aggressively to cops in return.
"When a shooting happens, regardless of what firearm was reported, cops who responds do not come with only their pistols, they come with rifles and shotguns." Of course that is the right approach ONCE A SHOOTING ACTUALLY HAPPENED. It couldn't just happen at a protest. A shooting could theoretically happen at absolutely anytime. Just because someone might conceiveably pull out a gun everytime they give someone a ticket, that doesn't justify cops pointing 5 assault rifles at anyone in any traffic stop either! So why does it justify it at a protest?
At those protests there are always dozens of cops around and they all had access to a nearby vehicle within seconds. So why couldn't they just keep 95 percent of their assault rifles in the cars? Their 15+ round pistol mags could buy them the 5 seconds needed to reach a trunk full of assault rifles. But instead they decided to present themselves like an occupying army. They're main task in such a situation is to win hearts and minds and to protect the public. Officer safety shouldn't be their main concern, since they voluntarily chose to do a somewhat risky job.
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Well the cops had clearly lost the hearts and minds before the protest, which is exactly why the protest happened in the first place! It's as the video said: people protest against heavy handed police tactics and cops use these very heavy handed tactics in response, which leads to a never ending cycle of violence.
If the whole theme of the protest is "you guys are too trigger happy". Is it really a smart solution for 5 cops, dressed like soldiers, to point assault rifles directly at a lone unarmed man with his hands up? (which was one of the most famous images of the protest). Which btw was in clear violation of firearm safety rule number 2 "Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to shoot". Anyone should know this rule and the other 3 by heart before they pick up a gun for the very first time in their life. So either the cops absolutely suck major balls at gun safety or they intended to shoot dozens, if not hundreds, of unarmed, non-violent protesters. And I'm not even sure which of the two explanations is more terrifying.
"And 5 second is a lot of time, don't undermine that." In the context of those protests, no officer was ever alone. If anyone pulled out a gun, at least a dozen cops would be able to open fire with their sidearms within under 2 seconds. If you really want to go through the hypothetical scenario (mind you nothing like this happened in Ferguson or Baltimore or anywhere else) half a dozen cops could provide suppressive fire with their pistols, while the other half dozen get the rifles out of the car and take over suppression while the first group gets their rifes. Not that suppressive fire would be a very smart choice in the middle of a crowd, independently of whether rifles or pistols are used (actually even worse with rifles due to overpenetration).
There weren't any cop killings or warzone-like guerilla tactics that caused the police to bring out all this ridiculous equipment. Apparently an officer was actually shot during the course of the protests, but that happened well after they rolled out with camo and APCs/MRAPs, assault rifles, snipers and all the other miltary gear and tactics.
10:58 we are so fucked as a society if this sort of thing is justifiable
so sad
Blur the faces of the people in the interview and show a photo of the kids. 19:35
The beauty of it is crime drastically drops when the cops have power
11:40 "Soldiers follow orders for a living police officers make decisions for a living" only someone who has never been a soldier but never listened to an experienced Soldier would say something so ignorant.
is that clip at 1:36 from fox news supposed to sound unreasonable?
I don't understand the sense of parents who say they would give their lives for their kids, I mean I do, but if they die, who looks after their kids? Seems counter intuitive.
There needs to be Police reform that becomes universal for all Police Departments across the country. That way we can systematically weed out those who do not comply or convict them. St. Louis has 2 separate police unions..That needs to be cleaned up as well.
11:23 president snow is that you?
Why can't everyone chill out and be like Hawaii.
hugh hefners son has a sister old enough to be his grandma.
Don't remove the weapon from police but remove the militaristic behaviour from police and also give half day for tactical training and half day for peace training
There is a very real need for police to have these skills and capabilities, however America has been slowly creeping towards a militarised state. From the outset the training seems to be consistently focused on resolution through force and intimidation. Those living in Europe should consider themselves fortunate to live in a free society.
Why are you re-uploading old videos rather than releasing new interesting videos?
We are all human beings man, let it be.
Also...Why so many dislikes?
+crackledoodle Trolls, haters, racism, misinformed people and people who doesn't agree with the political view of these reports.
Police Officers WERE SOLDIERS!!! I spoke to a few cops and they were prior service MP's and 11B. Shit even my old HS security guard was in the Air Force.
how comes your giving us this for free now? not enough views on hbo. not that I'm complaining :)
+Dan Sinfield At the start of each new season, they release the previous season on TH-cam. They did this for season 1 & 2. On HBO it's one of the highest viewed shows and has won many awards.
As for the new Format "vice on HBO" awesome! as for the first part of this video, not so much... The training that you showed was for SWAT teams, and those guys make mistakes too (as shown in the video...busting into the wrong houses etc) but thats what they generally train for on these big events, they are not negotiators (but they still receive some psychological training and practice deescalation) so when they go in S**t already hit the fan and they have to go in hot. As for the "Tanks" those are MRAPs and defensive in nature...if the crowd throws Molotovs towards the police they should be able to throw some Molotovs back...or at least protect themselves as good as they can. Which brings me to their gear, as long as they don't patrol the streets like this every day and only use it in high risk situations (as shown in the video) i'm totally fine with them looking like they are in downtown Baghdad. But in general i agree with you in that the police resort to forceful solutions more than it would be necessary. But in a way you guys brought that on yourselves...a country that has such an amount of easily available guns on the streets should also be able to foresee the changes this brings in policing (i'd be a mess every time i approach a car for a routine check)
La Bestia has actually crashed a few times in the past year 0.0
9:44 Did they really need that child actor?
here in maryland the driver license now has a tracking chip in it....
12:55 - Rand Paul says it well, "As much as I have outrage, I don't want people to think 'Gosh, I think police are bad people'... police are my neighbors they keep me safe, but even sometimes when they do bad things I tend to not want to blame them as much as *I blame the system*"
"Tanks" they say, its just armored vehicles
The terrorism training part was ridiculous. Especially when the guy talking about killing babies. How the fuck is that a useful way to spend money.
That kinda shit happens. Some crazy religious cults do kill babies for their rituals, just doesn't happen very often.
Wrong house?!!! Are you fucking kidding me?smh!! Fucked up shit!!!
damn why dont they just let the canadian forces train with that surplus shit/budget. the training that these cops get is what i would expect from a high budget military excercise...
Stop calling armored cars tanks.
Holy shit!!!! I understand that the scenario needs to be real but WTF!
i wonder if thomas won that ar
Same
An APAC or a LAV is not a tank, show me one tank. I agree with the majority of this episode, however applying more extreme words to an already extreme situation does not help your argument.
All of this would've been avoided if officer Wilson took responsibility for murdering a kid when he could've just kicked his ass....
How much of the evidence and court transcripts did you read?
The second story is sad as fuck. US causes so many problems.
Oh shutup
+Kevin Wolfe how don't they belong that's basically saying we don't belong we migrated here as well right ?
oTehReconz illegals migration means get the fuck out and stay out of America, legal migration means welcome!
your ancestors were immigrants. get out of the land you stole then.
I kinda understand the need for weapons in policing, when more extreme involving drug traffickers, gangs etc. and I get that the police need protection in certain riot situations, but do you really need assault rifle and mine-proof Hum-vees for a fucking black lives matter, or NoDAPL protest?
She wanted to get away from gangs, so she went to LA? A place known for excessive gang violence? What a joke.
How would an illegal know that?
Well she should have done a second of research before uprooting her life and moving there. Clearly she'd heard of the place, knew where it was located at, knew how to get there, if she could figure all that out why would she be unable to educate herself on the local culture?
+Squidward Tentacles All the illegals know is that L.A. is a big city with "opportunities"
Really, Any one unfamiliar with the reality of the country is up for a disappointment
Btw, your og comment really answers the irony.
My og comment? You do know OG stands for "original gangster" and not "original", don't you?
You got shot in the stomach because you didn't go the F home. And there was plenty of warning to do so. Everyone should have just went home and taken the wind out of their sails.
that shit looks insane
That training is laughably ridiculous!
Little hipster dude needs to see a tank in person so he can tell the difference between a "tank" and armor vehicles.