Cura V5.3 - New Tree Supports in Alpha Release
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ม.ค. 2023
- Cura V5.3 Alpha release contains new tree supports. Chuck tests them out and compares them to the original Cura Tree Supports to see if they are better,, worse or just about the same in this week's Filament Friday.
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just me seeing poor benchy being dragged under by a Kraken?
Cthulhu said hello.
Same here...
Not alone hehe
I’m SOOOO glad they have a new tree supports, because I’ve recently been using tree supports but it’s SUCH a pain removing it in tight places
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best version number for this improvement: "five point tree"
Thanks for your short and focused video 📹! 🙂 Cool new feature!
Thank you Chuck. I’ve been looking for that version of Cura with no luck till now. Thank You
Excellent content. I am a newbie to 3D printing, and I have already found your videos to be the most informative and instructional! Thanks for putting these together.
Thank you so much for this tree support video CHEP! The improvements are really incredible and worth trying out.
Pretty impressive results indeed, Chuck! 😃
Thanks a bunch for testing and sharing!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks for the video, I always know I can trust your review and expertise when it comes to 3D printing and the related software!
02:18 Captain Davy Jones has finally captured the Benchy!
Looking forward to downloading this version and improving my prints! Thanks CHep!
Thank you for the hard work you put in this video, like always amazing information and very clear.
Thanks once again, very informative and easy to
understand
Thanks man i needed this to make a print for my son work!
I did notice one difference in the 2 profiles you used. Even though both were set to default, the overhang angle on the first (old version) was 40 and the new version was 46. I'm guessing that is probably the small difference in print time and filament used since it required less support on the 46 degree overhangs
One of the best ways I’ve improved my print quality is figuring out how best to set supports for each model. Glad to see more developments in this area and I look forward to future improvements.
Hi Chuck, great video! I do a lot of multiday 3D prints lately and using Cura 5.2.1 and the tree supports. My machine is using a 0.8 nozzle on these big parts. I've found the tree supports to be good but removal can be a hassle. I have been reducing the Support Flow to 80% so they are a bit thinner and easier to remove. The parts I am printing do not have and flat surfaces so I am also doing a lot of work with the Support Interface as well. With the bed slingers, somethings I want to make the wall count for the tree support 2 instead of one, but again, removal can be challenging. I am looking forward to the new tree supports making it into the new releases
Def looking amazing, clean. No clean up is a huge plus.
looking forward to your profiles for cura V5.3 .... thank you very much...
Love the new supports. I heard (I may be wrong) but that the tree supports that will be in the new Prusa are by the same programmer.
But that aside, yes, it's more as I can see a "fractal" driven tree, so it doesn't have to "wrap" so much on the model.
It makes good use of angles for the branches and does a sturdier and more efficient wall/shell.
Tuchless at surface look so cool
I have been using Cura Tree Support Two by Thomas for quite a while now and it is awesome, it saves loads of time and filament over the previous tree supports on parts with large and lots of overhangs, I know this because I slice in both versions to see what the savings are, this is what Tree Support should have been from the start, glad to see it has now made it to an official alpha release!
I tried the new tree supports in 5.3 to print out a Xenomorph like the Prusaslicer demo. While the supports are much much easier to remove, they look nothing like the Prusaslicer organic supports. Prusaslicer looks like it used a lot less supports than Cura. I still look forward to the final release though. In the meantime, I'll keep using the Alpha release of Cura. I don't seem to have any bugs, no crashes, etc...
I'm reasonably new to 3D printing and had a horrible time dealing with supports at the beginning. Then I learned about the tree supports and it made a world of difference for me. It might just be my own personal experience but I find that the tree supports are much easier to remove and cause far less problems if I set the support density to 0.1% and use lines for the support pattern. I might also just be my preference coupled with the type of things I print. I don't print decorative or "fun" stuff. Everything I print is utilitarian in nature so I also try to print with strength or stability in mind.
The latest cura is bad ass even my new ender 3 neo prints tpu almost perfect on the standard setting and pla is near perfect its amazing how far 3d printing has come
I have the Ender 3 V2. I have been away from printing for a few months. I run Cura 5.3 but have not seen your 5.3 profiles anywhere. Are they available? I am a member of Chepclub. Thanks
the benchy with the tree supports looks like it could be used in a diorama as is.
Intresting video, I had the same problem with tree supports in my models, removing them was another complete excercise. So after trying some different support density settings I managed to get it right in the old slicer version with a 5% density setting. Now they come off very easily and with little to no effort. Let me know your thoughts
Best usage for the new tree supports - try setting: Support Placement - Touching buildplate & Support Overhang Angle - 85.0 - Your welcome :P
Hello Chep, i use your fast profile in Cura 5.1. Thank you very much for sharing, I would like to know if it also works well in Cura 5.3?
I had downloaded and used the new version of Cura. Yes I finally found it for DL. I printed up something small and didn’t think it needed supports. Then I saw which looked like an octopus creeping up on my btt smart filament mount I designed. I guess Cura 5.3 thought on its own I needed it. I printed this illuminated village that lights up. I sits on what I can describe as an inverted plate. Talk about how “messy” the bottom of plate turned out being elevated off the bed. I wonder how this new version will do
Do you have any tips on how to correctly tension belts on a Delta printer? I have an Anycubic Predator and I've been having trouble getting them correctly tightened.
Hi. Shoudn't you test both versions with the same tree support branch angle?
hello, new to 3d printing and I came across one of your vids. do you have a generally good profile for ender 2 pro?
Hey - are your cura 5.2 profiles different to to your 5.1 profiles and if so are they available anywhere?
So far I really like the Christmas tree supports, but for whatever reason, both of my PLA profiles have infill density greyed out at 20% and none of the other settings can fix it.
what is the situation with the cleaning distance of the outer walls? it didn't work in the alpha version... torn seams were obtained...
What cnc do you have behind you ? You have any videos about it ?
Hey I downloaded this new version of cura but the tree support doesn't appear can you help me thank you.
Is there a reason (pause at layer number) to change Filament not working followed your previous video exactly the same and when the head moves it instantly starts back to printing instead of pausing allowing for filament change.
top !!!
What kind of filament is that It looks like a nice red
First thing I noticed in those defaults... the 5.2.1 set the overhang angle to 40° while in the 5.3a, it's set to 46°. Could you reslice with the same angle to compare print time and material used?
Good point, but I think because of the minimun angle difference between both, there must have not much importance in the final result and time.
Finally
How do u add it to your cura profile after you down load it. Thanks
I followed your link below for Cura 5.3 Xmas. And it took to download GIMP program. A graphic interface something. Another time I clicked it still could not see/find hyperlink to dl 5.3. So I went directly to ultimaker looking and newest version they have is 5.2.1 , which is what I already have. I guess I’ll have to wait till ultimaker officially releases it 😢
you must have clicked on the wrong thing because the link worked for me.
Any word on when the full version is coming out?
Great video, we have to wait a little more time, and the company who create slicer, integrate any AI to create the best support using multiples failures from all people who print.
Hello. Since version 5.3 you cannot activate a support roof without activating the support structure interface. In version 5.2.2 you could still do that. Can you give me a tip on how to get it done? Or is that just a new feature :-). Greetings to all 3D printer friends
The one thing I really hope Cura adds one day is 'paintable' supports. It's honestly such an amazing feature in Prusa slicer and really the main thing that is keeping me from doing all my projects on Cura :( the custom support add on on Cura is no where near as good and you cant draw the supports on, you can only use the set shapes.
Will it still generate impossible supports though? Like the ones that gets trapped in the model?
need settings... because man, sometimes when i'm printing at 0.2, the supports are super far away from the print, and it makes them sag... not sure which setting to adjust... before, it was always at 0.2 distance, and worked fine... but now i can't find it... also, the trunks, or branches get huge gaps, and i've had a couple of fails... instead of it printing like a tube/vase mode, it makes a "C" instead... very nerve wrecking... lol... i know it's probably a setting, but i can't figure it out...
I downloaded "Filament Friday Best (0.12) Cura Profile" but Cura v5.3.0-alpha+xmas says it's not compatible.
I haven't tried the beta builds but I also read or saw somewhere that now support blockers actually do what they're supposed to do. Can you verify this?
I wish they would have left the option to use the old tree supports as well. The old version while not ideal, did take up less space on the build plate. The new version is much wider as they stick out further. When printing very large things that can make or break the ability to squeeze it on the build plate.
I think you can have installed both versions at the same time
That seems like the same as if you just make the tree supports only touch the bed.
it looks like just change of tree support settings rather than a new algorithm, seems like they increased the XY distance and branch/trunk diameter
There's another video but don't know the name, that goes a little bit more in depth on it and also mentions the guy responsible for continuing the development of tree supports. So yeah it's not just different settings
Definitely not just a change in settings. It was rebuilt completely by Thomas over 3 years. Uses less support, supports the model better and actively avoids support blockers.
If i try to import Filament Friday Good (0.20) Cura Profile I get this message "quality type 'standard' is not compatible with the current active machine definition 'fdm printer'". Is there a solution? My printer is a Prusa mk3s
Getting the same as well
I'm not sure how good it is to do this, but if you take the file you are trying to import, you can unzip it and get 2 text files, then edit the quality type in both files. I think that the allowed values are draft, standard and super. Then zip the edited files back up and import.
How do I download it and put the file in cura?
Five point three?
More like five point TREE!
Looks good though.
💕👌👍
Has anyone else had a problem with his 0.12 profile leaving little pockmarks? I don't know how to get rid of them. It looks like the start/end of each layer is missing, so it leaves a little empty dot.
Retraction is to high
Hi, I'm a newby in 3d print. I have Cura 5.0 version. If I install 5.3, profiles from the 0 version will be availables? I need to configure again my printer? Sombody here can answer those questins please?
Best to upgrade to 5.3
I'm new to 3D printing and curious to know... Why would you want to print a benchy at 30 degrees anyway.. what benefits are there etc...? I have an Ender3V2 and am curious as to know when and why would you do this?
Short answer: NEVER.
It's just an example and a way to force the printing difficulty in order to know how the new supports are gonna be compared to the traditional one.
@@jhonny1392 well theoretically you might want print it at an angle to eliminate the infamous hull line if you just want an aesthetic benchy, but it also defeats the purpose of the benchy as a benchmark so you wouldn't do it otherwise
Hey Chep, my question for you is which would you go with Longer LK5 pro or Ender 3 max neo?
i just came bye to give a like and write stuff for the algorythm, keep up the good job !
It looks promissing. However, the default settings seem to be different, so it's not a 100% fair comparisson.
is the profile you have there for a certain printer ? because it fails to import for me and it says that its not compatible with the current active machine anycubic mega i3 s thanks
Hell eh Buck?
XD
cura 5.0.0 support placement = touching buildplate same result.
no.
Try prusa slice, for beter results
Why do you say that? All3DP made the following statement: "Cura definitely takes the cake as it has some more nitty-gritty settings that PrusaSlicer doesn't make available." Do you have a different opinion? Thank you.
дак стандартные настройки разные же, поэтому и результат разный...
Does Cura 5.3.1 contain the new tree supports?
idk either so i just downloaded from the link in the description. says its only been up for 3 days
Jamie Morton - It’s still delayed.
@@FilamentFriday Thanks for the info.
Nope I was using them in 5.3 alpha and then upgraded to 5.3.1 and lost the good tree supports.
Tree supports in 5.3.1 suck
How in frik do you download it?
Click on link in description, then “download this special alpha” and then expand the assets to see the list of operating systems.
I downloaded cura in December and it had tree supports already on it, I just searched "cura download" and downloaded the newest one. Hope this is helpful!
@@yobtnirp yes cura already had tree supports but this new alpha version has improved tree supports
I know this is about cura but do you have any video for using prusa slicer is so i might not have been scrolling enough on ypur videos.
I thought the Benchy was supposed to be printed flat. Am I wrong?
It's just used as an example to show the supports. The benchy isn't supposed to be printed with supports either.
Isn’t the whole point of a benchy to tweak your printer settings and print it without supports?
I tried the tree supports in cura and they totally encapsulated my print like a cuccoon. Pretty much destroyed my model removing them. So I went back to simplify 3d and model was great!
Ummmmmm, who prints a benchy at 30 degrees with supports? Isnt the purpose of the benchy to see what the printer does without supports and flat?!?!?!
He was doing that to specifically test out tree supports, not print quality.
I had also very bad experiences with Cura and supports. 8 hour print wasted as the standard supports (nothing changed in the default settings) were so melted into the model, that I couldnt even break it off with force. Cura sadly is not that far in development as I always hear and thought.
Manual seam painting please!!! Math/script ... Fu your tree ))
Noob (2 months)...
3D printing is cool, I get that.
But the amount of time it takes and effort to get something decent and at a huge time cost is absurd.
I am new too.. I find it fascinating and after 2-3 weeks I am mostly happy with my calibrations and results. What printer do you have?
@@Matrixas neo max, you?
Same noob here, never had a 3D printer here so I started from scratch with an Ender 3 V2 Neo. I was already using the Cura alpha 5.3 and Octoprint. New tree supports are amazing! It's an easy sailing until now. First 3 weeks were rough but I'm in a comfortable place now. No big issues. If you need to change few designs to your own liking then yeah that's the cost of having customized designed, which you might not find at any store. All in all, I'm not regretting it at all.
I'd like to add that CHEP was a huge help while starting up! One of the best channels, especially for beginners. His ultra fast profiles were a game changer! It cut my printing times by around %40 !!
Imo that’s part of the fun. Tinkering with it and trying to always get better. It’s a hobby. Unless you’re obviously using it for a business. I assume most of those business guys print just a few things thousands of times and have it all dialed in to look good but use as little filament as possible. With that said. It’s just a hobby for most of us
@aouni84 good stuff, thanks for the input and discussion.
I have been spending my time designing my own prints and testing different filament types on my neo max and have only scratched the surface on tweaking slicing software. Which is probably why I'm complaining that it takes 36 hours to print 4 150mm long pipes that I am designing to decoratively cover ethernet cables I have running across my wall. So slow....!
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