Testing 8 Innovative New Boat Propeller Designs

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  • @Earth-Apple
    @Earth-Apple 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2779

    That under water footage is amazing, props for taking this much time to create a video.

    • @apacheandy
      @apacheandy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +178

      Pun intended...? :D

    • @praveenb9048
      @praveenb9048 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      ​@@apacheandyyou beat me to it

    • @plarkmoby
      @plarkmoby 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      I nearly clicked away and had to come back. Wonderful pun, bravo.

    • @rosiepone
      @rosiepone 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      props, haha

    • @marcd5132
      @marcd5132 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      props 😎

  • @daylen577
    @daylen577 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2655

    I like how you absolutely shat on the guy with his 'patent pending' prop and absurdly high confidence, and then immediately proved your point. Insane how people just refuse to take feedback

    • @viscinium
      @viscinium 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +295

      Yeah, I don't wanna be mean to the guy, but I really don't see how the curved rectangles on the tips could be anywhere near optimal even for that design. I feel like they should be at least a little rounded in some way, right?

    • @mitchib1440
      @mitchib1440 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +440

      "9/10 chance of winning"
      *literally got beaten by every other submission this episode*
      gg, nenad.

    • @Sonnell
      @Sonnell 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +116

      @@mitchib1440 Perhaps he thought the chart was reversed, 9/10 chance of loosing? :)

    • @roderik1990
      @roderik1990 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +79

      Though I do wonder how that prop would have worked with more power and higher RPMs (assuming it survives that)

    • @bigmock141
      @bigmock141 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Time to short

  • @AlexPeace246
    @AlexPeace246 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +219

    “So cool.” Little old Asian man was just genuinely interested in what you where doing and was probably bored, just out on a walk and I bet seeing what you where doing made his day and gave him something to talk about. Awesome how being creative and interesting draws interest of strangers, I don’t know why more TH-camrs don’t do public shows or lectures and stuff.

    • @evanray8413
      @evanray8413 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Wrong.
      Was a Spai.

    • @Juddly05
      @Juddly05 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@evanray8413came here to say the same thing lol. That’s probably my military training and bias’s

    • @evanray8413
      @evanray8413 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @Juddly05
      I'm just a skeptic.
      No training at all. 🤪

    • @Thelongmanable
      @Thelongmanable 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      *_As a long time RC boat enthusiasts you get people come to watch no matter if it's raining cats and dogs outside and the questions never end._*

    • @Cristopher.C
      @Cristopher.C 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      "so cool. but you doctor yet?"

  • @Allexz
    @Allexz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    why do i keep watching these videos? I hate water, i dont care about boats, propellers ive never even thought of in my life YET im here for every damn video and i love em all!

    • @m1kalD
      @m1kalD 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Curious isn't it. I'm similar. He obviously has a serious knack at making things we are NOT interested in interesting.....

    • @Johnnywhamo
      @Johnnywhamo 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Who TF hates water? lol

    • @Allexz
      @Allexz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Johnnywhamo​​⁠water is generally always too damn cold and when it comes to low temperatures im a wimpy bitch xD

  • @Gosuminer
    @Gosuminer 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +653

    I love how an interesting RC channel turned into a seriously scientific resource for water propulsion.

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      i predict that in 5 years we send a probe to europa

    • @firenado4295
      @firenado4295 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      you missed the bit where this was not only and RC channel but an RC aeroplane channel lol.

    • @KyleReynaert
      @KyleReynaert 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Honestly it feels like he saw how successful MajorHardwares user submitted PC Fan series was and said “hmm I can do this for propellers” either way I’m here for it

    • @OneCanisLupus
      @OneCanisLupus 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I am pleasantly surprised to find your channel and your testing. Always wondered what the best prop would be. Just fun to watch.

    • @Deletirium
      @Deletirium 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Right? I'm not even into RC stuff, at all, but I subscribed anyway. Fluid dynamics and homebrew engineering is more fun than it seems it would be.

  • @drangus3468
    @drangus3468 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1408

    I love this format.
    - Shit on the bad designs and mock submitter's overconfidence
    - Test props
    - Shit on the designs some more, but with data

    • @Eis_
      @Eis_ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +118

      "See. Look at the graph. I told you it would be bad."

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

      And the huh... I guess it works, but why?

    • @chillentheboundarylayer6770
      @chillentheboundarylayer6770 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      BAHAHAHHA this is gold

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      THOSE DUCKLINGS HATCHED THEY'RE FUZZBALLS
      ...yeah low reynolds number ain't shit if prop design is crap

    • @youvebeenspooked
      @youvebeenspooked 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      And mock their underconfidence haha

  • @dwalker1612
    @dwalker1612 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I love how a video pops up on your feed, so you give a quick watch just to see whats going down. Then a half hour in (due to multiple intermissions, thanks wife) you find yourself subscribing and searching for the remainder of the tests.
    Great video, from the narration, to the cinematic views. The work and time you put into making this view is top notch.

  • @JohnDagleish-rh1rf
    @JohnDagleish-rh1rf 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    As a retired Naval Architect I thought your experimental approach was brilliant - really enjoyed it! kind regards John

    • @myparceltape1169
      @myparceltape1169 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You will be in a good position to appreciate it.

  • @Chrisilch
    @Chrisilch 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +541

    I love this sponsor integration. You actually use it for the video and don't just cut back to the shop to tell me about incogni

  • @jaspervandenameele4834
    @jaspervandenameele4834 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +373

    When you started this I thought it would be more like the fan showdown, but honestly the amount of work you put in to make it both scientific and interesting is just amazing! The footage looks great, and the bubbles really make a big difference when trying to understand/explain the performance!

    • @TlalocTemporal
      @TlalocTemporal 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Fan showdown wishes it could be this good.

    • @infernus6278
      @infernus6278 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      At least the fan showdown guy is not shitting on people with his superior opinions and it's just for fun

    • @jaspervandenameele4834
      @jaspervandenameele4834 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

      @@infernus6278 I feel like he was very objective. The results don't lie and aren't just opinions! And I feel like the prop you are probably referring to was given a fair chance, he even told him the angle of attack seemed too low beforehand! Also you gotta keep in mind how many different props (but also wings, hulls, etc) he has created himself, I love that he has some insight and gives a little hypothesis

    • @MrMaxeemum
      @MrMaxeemum 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I was also thinking fan showdown (Major Hardware) or Project Farm

    • @infernus6278
      @infernus6278 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@jaspervandenameele4834 im not talking about that last objectively shit design, the whole vibe of the episode is wrong

  • @louielinux
    @louielinux 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    You know what I love? I used to watch you chuck foam planes out your window and now you're doing boat prop tests. Keep fing going, I love this stuff 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

  • @PointShotDR
    @PointShotDR 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    I was so happy to hear that you ran multiple tests per model. Sometimes I see people doing tests with a single execution in situations with thousands of variables. It's ridiculous when they do that, it invalidates the entire test.

  • @snjert8406
    @snjert8406 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +896

    12:11 I love how you can see another prop he seems to have dropped hahahaha

    • @Davidus0505
      @Davidus0505 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +59

      lol good spot

    • @gigglewumpus
      @gigglewumpus 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      hope he picked it up haha

    • @romteb
      @romteb 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      Prop 43 is sitting on the bottom

    • @derjoh1986
      @derjoh1986 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Actually 12:07
      It explains better what you were referring to.

    • @theseasonofcold5222
      @theseasonofcold5222 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      @@derjoh1986 actually they were talking about a second fallen prop that's visible right before the cutoff.

  • @wojecire
    @wojecire 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +211

    We need more like this. Maybe do a hull design version. Set the common level using displacement and let them go wild

    • @vitsalava1251
      @vitsalava1251 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Making crowd resourced hulls is a lot of work and filament😀

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@vitsalava1251 I thought he did a video about hull design. Not a competition, but a video about it.

  • @CSHracer
    @CSHracer 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    When I use to race hydroplanes new guys would try the hydrophobic stuff all the time, things used on sail boats and such. And they often worked well at lower speeds, but at higher speeds they actually caused more drag, sticking the boat to the water (hydroplanes run the fastest when they use air pressure under them to lift the majority of the boat off the water).

  • @PacoOtis
    @PacoOtis 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm an old timer and physics major and congratulate you for such a professional presentation and quest! Best of luck!

  • @williamm.3612
    @williamm.3612 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +117

    Never can appreciate enough the j-cut from " oh I needed to design a custom mounting arm and foil for the slow mo camera capture" and YT pov is like 3 seconds, while who knows how long it took to implement.
    "Props" to you good sir!!!!!!!

    • @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
      @stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      So many creators drag us through every little side project painfully. I suppose it could still be interesting but there's a limit. I appreciate his judgement.

  • @MonoIit
    @MonoIit 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    Overlaping efficiency graphs with the same scale would be nice so we can visualy compare them, otherwise they all look the same

  • @steino92
    @steino92 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Don't know how this video made it to my algorithm, but I'm happy it did. Kudos to the effort spent with the underwater setup.

  • @stevemcclendon9297
    @stevemcclendon9297 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    you my friend are an engineer showing his worth, I appreciate your transparency and gratitude for the designers, keep up the good work

  • @Cimlite
    @Cimlite 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    This is like The Bachelor for nerds. I for one can't wait to find out which prop the boat ends up with!

    • @giorgion9116
      @giorgion9116 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      and the rose goes to the simpler is better

    • @extremechimpout
      @extremechimpout 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😮 Im a nerd now..

    • @StormReconUnit
      @StormReconUnit 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Pc fan design is another one that can get this crazy imo

    • @Cimlite
      @Cimlite 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@extremechimpout I mean, we're watching a competition about boat propeller efficiency - so I mean, _we are what we are._ Might as well own it. Don't get me wrong. I don't mean it in a derogatory way, quite the opposite.

    • @Deletirium
      @Deletirium 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lol, very apt description.

  • @Tony-op6xf
    @Tony-op6xf 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    8:28 really loving the makers community embracing a more interactive YT experience with all the testing of entries.

  • @mach2223
    @mach2223 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    22:30 I love that random encounter with a guy just asking what you're doing and then getting really interested as soon as he understands what's going on.

  • @cingkole7893
    @cingkole7893 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    THAT BUBBLE GENERATOR IS GENIUS!!!

  • @Cockerham
    @Cockerham 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    I love how you blitz through the narration. It's like you are explaining complicated, cool stuff to a friend.

  • @qqqast132
    @qqqast132 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    I absolutely love your channel. I love how casual you are about the most amazing stuff like the "bubbler". The quality of the underwater shots is amazing. Also, I love the turtle at the end. Please never stop making videos, you are awesome

  • @leandersmith6184
    @leandersmith6184 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I like the innovative thing this video has, I have nothing with boats _just water_ but i watched the whole thing with a smile. Thanks for sharing from Mexico

  • @BrewsterMcBrewster
    @BrewsterMcBrewster 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are on your way to greatness, Mr. rctestflight! Such a well planned test setup; it was a hypnotic joy to watch. Can't wait to see part 2!

  • @CharlieMetcalf
    @CharlieMetcalf 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +36

    I am not, by any means, as scientific as the majority of your viewers, but I really enjoy your channel and the testing you are doing.

    • @amandahugankiss4110
      @amandahugankiss4110 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      buddy, none of us are all thst technical. lol

    • @pejoka
      @pejoka 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not true! Some of the viewers here are technical, and some are even experts in the field of fluid mechanics. This channel is great because it’s interesting and informative for many types of viewers. It’s awesome and cool a fun stuff!

    • @amandahugankiss4110
      @amandahugankiss4110 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@pejoka nope. i call bullshit. we dumb; dumb as hell.

  • @nerd1000ify
    @nerd1000ify 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    Wow my design is actually in the lead so far! Be interesting to see what surpasses it.
    Those 'stagnation points' behind the hub are partly because of the hub vortex. I actually designed a v2 of my prop with a simple hub vortex diffuser to mitigate the associated losses, but in the video it looks like the hub vortex of my design is already pretty weak so it might not make much difference. Definitely worth trying on a smaller diameter prop however.

    • @danedmiston9673
      @danedmiston9673 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      That weak hub vortex caught my eye, indicating the blades are operating at a very good lift to drag ratio. Nice design job.

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@danedmiston9673 thanks!

    • @FogGoblin
      @FogGoblin 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      What if you added dimples like on a golf ball.

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@FogGoblin Golf ball dimples are a kind of turbulator, you should go read up on how those work (it would take a bit long to write it all up here). Basically they're pretty situational, and only help when the flow is laminar and speeds are fairly low. Under other circumstances they actually increase drag.
      Boat propellers usually have various stuff (like the skeg and bubble generator) upstream of them that messes up the laminar flow into the blades anyway, so there's probably not much point using turbulators. Also this prop is spinning fast enough that it is mostly outside the range of speeds where they'd be useful.

    • @FogGoblin
      @FogGoblin 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nerd1000ify Thank you for reply. Last comment, what if someone printed a Prop that was more like a Driveshaft and have gears that are pushed by boat moving. Or why cannot you add a prop in front and in rear? I lack intelligence but I can beat you all in imagination.

  • @flyguy8791
    @flyguy8791 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a phenomenal amount of work and effort put into this video and it shows! Excellent work. Keep the videos coming because they're all super interesting.

  • @gingermany6223
    @gingermany6223 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The most impressive thing here is the camera set up that allows the props to be filmed in-situ!

  • @ZirothTech
    @ZirothTech 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    This is such a great video and idea in general - I can't wait to finish up my university studies and have more time to get making some similar projects! Great to see so many designs that I have covered in videos make it into this competition! 😀

  • @user-xz6cx2ov9x
    @user-xz6cx2ov9x 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you very much for your work. You speak so clearly and relaxed. Your way of doing things and your love for the small technical details and nature. Super good!

  • @mazack00
    @mazack00 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The amount of effort you put into collecting the footage and comparing these is awesome. Can't wait for the next video

  • @youngbloodbear9662
    @youngbloodbear9662 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

    Aerospace engineer, i can say that the wing vortex isn’t actually localized to the wing tip, it’s distributed across the length, just often is so concentrated that it appears as a single vortex at the tip. The long prop might simply be very elliptical in its distribution (i e efficient vortex minimization)

    • @vahnlewis9749
      @vahnlewis9749 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think I have seen several other studies where longer length is thought to be more efficient, which is helpful for solar powered systems.

    • @youngbloodbear9662
      @youngbloodbear9662 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@vahnlewis9749 certainly, the longer the wing the more of it behaves like the infinite 2D wing which is almost always far more efficient. The traditional theory is that vortex related drag (proportional to lift squared, thrust in this context) scales inversely with the oswald efficiency (wing/prop design) and inversely to pi * the aspect ratio

    • @vahnlewis9749
      @vahnlewis9749 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@youngbloodbear9662 As an aerospace engineer, I would love to ask you a question about how airfoils work. I am a sailor by the way. There are two lifts on a wing, one is the Bernoulli, and the other is sometimes called Newton. Bernoulli suggest the lift on a wing relates to a vacuum produce above the wing due to the separation produced by the wing shape. The Newton force is the force of the wind pushing on the underside of the wing. I think both of these are involved in lift, but I think in many cases the Newton force is larger than the Bernoulli. Is there any reference that describes the magnitude of these two forces on wing addressing the factors of foil speed and foil angle?

    • @youngbloodbear9662
      @youngbloodbear9662 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vahnlewis9749 i don’t have a good paper to reference off the top of my head, but I can say very confidently that in most cases, most of the time, the ‘newton’ lift is significantly more important than the ‘Bernoulli’ vacuum based lift. What is really critical though is the difference between the surfaces, breaking it into components is just semantics, its the net pressure differential that generates the force. Its also important to note that if newton lift was the only thing that mattered, wings wouldn’t stall in the way they do, if the bottom surface were the only part that mattered, we wouldn’t care if flow separated from the other side, but in reality you drop like a rock. Even if the vacuum isn’t as strong as many would imply, that steady low pressure flow is still necessary for the higher pressure on the bottom to push against, because it isn’t *that* strong either. A good example is a big heavy fighter jet might have a wing loading of around 80 pounds per square foot of wing, thats only half a PSI total on average in level flight, and thats newton and bernoulli combined… even pulling maximum G’s that’s only 1/3 of an atmosphere difference in pressure. The reality though is that these simple breakdowns of newton vs bernoulli aren’t capturing the full picture. If you take a step back and look at the effect on the airflow, treat the wing as a black box, what you need to see is how much momentum is being imparted into the flow, and that force has to be reflected in the wing, basically just an abstraction of newton. When you do this, it turns out that you can back out a parameter called circulation which is equal to the lift. The more the wing causes the air to curve around it and change direction, the more force it generates, and thats due to both pushing from the bottom surface and from the suction over the top. This doesn’t factor more complex interactions with viscous flow and vortices etc but thats the gist. One last caveat is for highly supersonic objects, newtonian flow is almost perfectly accurate, the more supersonic the less these ideas of suction have time to really take any effect

    • @akuladon1488
      @akuladon1488 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@vahnlewis9749 Lift is created by the difference of the pressures under and above the wing. It involves both vacuum above the wing and excessive pressure below the wing. But vacuum can have around 3 times more deviation from atmospheric pressure than excessive pressure below the wing, so the most of the lift is created by that vacuum.
      Maybe i didn't wrote it clear, English is not my native. So here is formula of what i meant: P_above - P_atmospheric ≈ - 3 * (P_below - P_atmospheric)
      It is important to understand that without pressure below the wing, there wouldn't be any lift so both create it and both are used in Bernoulli lift. And Newton lift is just excessive pressure below the wing which is included in Bernoulli lift

  • @tertiaryobjective
    @tertiaryobjective 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    This is some of the most visually stunning science ever captured.

  • @PA_Leon
    @PA_Leon 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i am so impressed of your great test! so much time spending on testing propellers! very nice! thnak you!

  • @johnodonnell2495
    @johnodonnell2495 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m checking in every day for the next video. This was bloody brilliantly presented. Extremely interesting content great job

  • @sashgorokhov
    @sashgorokhov 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    Now you need to graph author confidence level against efficiency results!

    • @isaacgraphics1416
      @isaacgraphics1416 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I predict an inverse correlation

  • @matthewkresconko6196
    @matthewkresconko6196 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Wouldn't the fibonacci propeller be GREAT for avoiding seaweed snags? I think that sucker could run through a bass lake no problem where other propellers would get caught up in growth

    • @michael3533
      @michael3533 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Rounding the edge at the start of the vortex could help a lot by driving through seaweed too

  • @emjizone
    @emjizone 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You did an excellent and clever job designing protocols, building setups, capturing, analysing and communicating data and I would like to spend more time in my life involved in such cool projects.

  • @coxyofnewp
    @coxyofnewp 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I watched a few of your vids over last year and though I don't do anything with models etc _ I enjoy the way you meticulously work through your project and explain everything with good detail and simplicity.. Well worth a sub and like.. Keep up the great content

  • @CaptainRawricus
    @CaptainRawricus 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Googling the paunovic props, it really seems like they're intended for drones where they're able to spin much much faster than boat propellers usually do. So it seems like an odd choice to submit it for this contest, especially without changing it in any way for the lower rpms

    • @stephenhagen8976
      @stephenhagen8976 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah. It's clear he didn't check rpms or only tested it for static thrust. Interesting idea, just not optimized for situation.

    • @pejoka
      @pejoka 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Kinda hard to imagine why such a supposedly “brilliant “ designer would miss the obvious scaling issue so badly.

  • @Nameschonvergebn
    @Nameschonvergebn 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +60

    OMG another rctestflight video! this quickly???

  • @BASIC1001
    @BASIC1001 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Incredible work! Really loved the camera setup and bubbler, along with the method in which you gathered your data!

  • @endurofan9854
    @endurofan9854 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    to make it proper and show how the water reacts or goes in every prop used just by putting bubbles thru the path is totaly genius bro, i love the way you think and surely i love this video

  • @murtoz5628
    @murtoz5628 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Wageningen is a place in the Netherlands. Kinda sounds like Wah Guh Ning Uhn (accept the G in Guh is more like a soft version of the CH in loch)

    • @luebkejan
      @luebkejan 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      MARITIME RESEARCH INSTITUTE NETHERLANDS is located in Wageningen.

    • @Alex-zi1nb
      @Alex-zi1nb 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wagon ninja?

    • @murtoz5628
      @murtoz5628 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Alex-zi1nb close enough!

  • @marcelinosanantonio2161
    @marcelinosanantonio2161 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +96

    13:04 bless you

    • @thomasdaneault2176
      @thomasdaneault2176 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Crazy I was going to comment that’s if you hadn’t 😂

    • @endurofan9854
      @endurofan9854 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      why?
      what's at 13:04?

  • @motorbreath5point0
    @motorbreath5point0 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Totally stumbled on to this, it combines like all my pass times. 3d printing, boats, engineering, RC its awesome

  • @swampysanta5445
    @swampysanta5445 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    awesome work! i love how the simple is the most effective.

  • @Franksey180
    @Franksey180 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Amazing how much you've progressed since your earlier videos, I've been watching this channel for years. Great job, very enjoyable and well put together video.

    • @laska907
      @laska907 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Right!
      Here before Elon hires him for a high-level position at SpaceX 🙋‍♂️

  • @jazzophis
    @jazzophis 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    That bubble generator you added is amazing. You can learn so much by being able to observe the effects like that.

  • @fraudbuster1456
    @fraudbuster1456 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The spiral bubble path you were concerned about on the baseline model are caused by the rotation of the propeller. It is not cavitation. The propeller is generating a rotational force as well as thrust. This rotation causes everything it acts on to try to move outward. So air bubbles hitting the blade are being pushed toward the blade tip by centrifugal force and leaves a trail of bubbles along the blade path. Some propellers try to use this wasted energy by using a ring or nozzle around the blade to redirect the water to the back. A prop similar to the ring glide with the proper attack angle and 3 blades would perform much better. As for the Fibonacci propeller, its design is not suitable for high speed. It will likely out-perform all the others for precise thrust control, especially at low speeds so it’s not a useless design, but for a different speciality. Adding a slightly bell profile to the Fibonacci blade should serve to increase the thrust it provides and allow it to compete more effectively in your test.

  • @felixspiess
    @felixspiess 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I built RC gas boats in the early 2000s. Never got the tuned brushcutter engine to work well with the (few) available props. 20 years later, and you are providing many of the answers I was looking for 😅Keep up the awesome work, you are my favorite youtube channel.

  • @Chris_1024_
    @Chris_1024_ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    That is fantastic nerd content. There are not many creators that put so much efford in their videos. That must have taken weeks to setup. Really appreciate it.

  • @emeil8584
    @emeil8584 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +48

    13:04 bless you bro😂

  • @xankersmith9194
    @xankersmith9194 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome video! I love the bubble cam and all the effort you put into making this. Looking forward to the rest!

  • @Jaywithag78
    @Jaywithag78 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have been watching a PC fan series and this came across my stream. You did a great job and have a new sub. Good luck in the future.

  • @harukih2772
    @harukih2772 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    love your vids because of you got in to engeneering

  • @alskjflaksjdflakjdf
    @alskjflaksjdflakjdf 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Epic video and sneeze, can't wait for the next one! So far it seems like more plastic == less efficient. By this metric, you should try the motor without a prop, it should be super amazing! :P

  • @cwrmark
    @cwrmark 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All I can say is OUTSTANDING WORK

  • @JamesDoylesGarage
    @JamesDoylesGarage 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was cool to see everyone in the community get involved.

  • @arthurjennings5202
    @arthurjennings5202 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Used to work pit crew for outboard hydro racing. The props were stainless, with 2 blades, running the hub partially submerged. Boat speeds varied depending on engine displacement, but 120mph with a 40 cubic inch engine were common. We noticed the higher the rooster tail, the slower the boat. The 60 cubic inch engines were throwing out grapefruit size water "chunks" at no more than 6 to 8 feet high. The winning prop would have worked great, but 300 horsepower required thicker blades.

  • @UraTrowelie
    @UraTrowelie 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Damn dude you really are alive at your perfect time. Can you imagine trying to have this channel without a 3D printer?

  • @PlasmaChannel
    @PlasmaChannel 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Daniel, one heck of a kickoff for the series! The setup you built to film this is admittedly just as hard as designing a custom propeller, if not harder. Also, bless you, ya legend.

  • @pyladian
    @pyladian 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I find this fascinating,I appreciate your science based approach,with great care for detail! Thank you for this wonderful video.

  • @Flash-FX
    @Flash-FX 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Awesome test session! Very scientific! Love it! This reminds me of the cub scouts "rocket derby" I attended back in the early 60's. The idea of that was for the "kid" to build his OWN rubber band powered "rocket" and run it along the taught fishing line at the meet (the big test day). I carved and painted my own rocket from the base line starter kit, and got a lesson on a few different things along the way. I didn't win the event but managed to come in above the middle of the pack. The winner's "rocket" was built by some kids dad that was obviously well skilled at model building (it was like something from NASA). "Dad" added graphite powder to the prop bearing surfaces and saturated the rubber band in like castor oil or some special liquid to reduce the unwinding friction. Like a 8 or 9 year old kid knows this stuff? Lol!

  • @Yaivenov
    @Yaivenov 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Propellers aside it is neat watching your test platform evolve. That little catamaran is cool.

  • @w.p.3539
    @w.p.3539 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow love the content and way you and your team systematically prepare and test Items…keep up the great work!

  • @adrianjayne6580
    @adrianjayne6580 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this is probably my favorite project so far. cant wait for the next videos!

  • @Stridertrees
    @Stridertrees 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish you could know how much I enjoyed watching this video :) 👏🏽 thanks for all your hard work. I’m eagerly awaiting the rest of the series :)

  • @bonafide9085
    @bonafide9085 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Amazing that you come up with details like the idea of air bubble injector. Also, this is video is very useful because I'm building a simple catamaran that can carry a large magnet for magnet fishing, so I don't need to mess with propeller testing.

    • @tylerlaird91
      @tylerlaird91 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      watch techingredients video about electric catamaran propeller. he did the testing and arrived at a 3 blade ccw pusher prop being the way to go I believe. i kept hoping one of the designs was going to be similar to that but none were:\

    • @jumpsneak
      @jumpsneak 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@tylerlaird91yet...

    • @tylerlaird91
      @tylerlaird91 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jumpsneak 😄

  • @BirnieMac1
    @BirnieMac1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thank you so much for testing the hydrophobic coating; it’s something I’d wondered about for a long time
    Same with tubercles too omg

  • @M.M.83-U
    @M.M.83-U 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is incredibly interesting, and the video quality is amazing.

  • @KiwiTim
    @KiwiTim 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great work man, good methodology, no BS and honesty and willingness to be wrong and accept that. Something we can all learn from. New subscriber 👍🏼

  • @pierre-luca
    @pierre-luca 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your videos are so great. I’m studying maritime technology in Germany and you motivate me so much for more!

  • @BartSliggers
    @BartSliggers 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    You should try to sync a strobe light to one of the motor phases. Maybe an car ignition strobe light will do, they usually have battery connections by design.

  • @dege13
    @dege13 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this video idea. Your testing is always solid too. Keep it up!

  • @cookieprophet595
    @cookieprophet595 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really love the time you take to create an amazing underwater image of what’s happening with the propellers

  • @Trapped42
    @Trapped42 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    19:20 coolest visual I've seen in a minute, like a ancient Japanese painting of the ocean.😎

    • @costynvd
      @costynvd 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's so cool!

    • @r3dn0w
      @r3dn0w 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Looks like a Kelvin-Helmholtz instability. 😏 (I think I learned that from Veritasium ..)

  • @karyjas1
    @karyjas1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    21:00 Likely this prop never reached its efficiency peak, while all other props always started past it. The full efficiency graph should be like a mountain, not a single slope

    • @8paolo96
      @8paolo96 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      It clearly couldn't reach higher speeds, anyway you can see it almost at plateau in the end of the curve, and with the "corrected parameter" calculated at the apex it was still dead last

    • @karyjas1
      @karyjas1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@8paolo96 Well, it was so clear to me that i didnt think to even mention it

    • @DumbGoogle-yz9cr
      @DumbGoogle-yz9cr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

      Remember they designed this prop for the 400 watt motor with a target speed aswell, if it didn't reach full efficiency then it was badly setup for this motor. All props regardless of style or design need to be correctly sized (diameter and pitch) for the motor driving them this is standard in the boating world.
      Also given how badly the prop performed and the angle on the graph it should likely would never reach a efficiency remotely close to the other props, also note the design was intended for metal it should have been altered for plastic (knowing it was going to be printed) as it may not have broken but it may have been flexing altering the intended pitch angle and hurting the efficiency more.
      The final nail in the coffin for this design really is the flow, the goal of a prop is to push water backwards any water moving in any other direction is a huge efficiency loss and those swirling vortexs moving at the outer edges of the blade looked to be around 20% of the blade lenght a huge section of the blade that was effectively fighting its ability to push water backwards

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The propeller on that motor couldn’t reach higher speeds, so how does the efficiency past that point matter if it is unable to run at those speeds?
      It did reach its efficiency peak for that motor.

    • @iskierka8399
      @iskierka8399 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@DumbGoogle-yz9cr Resin is actually extremely inflexible, it will shatter with not much more bend than metal would. The fact it didn't break already tells it wasn't flexing, it was just so inefficient that it couldn't perform well enough to break itself.

  • @RubyS.1
    @RubyS.1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

    Just realized how big of a nerd i am dammit

    • @maxmustermann5932
      @maxmustermann5932 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we nerds are more fun anyways ;)

    • @denisivanov1140
      @denisivanov1140 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why?

    • @shark_eye
      @shark_eye 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@denisivanov1140more knowladge. I like to be a nerd when it comes to stuff like this. Also made a underwater drone. Multiple times 😁

  • @brownpetalpower
    @brownpetalpower 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wowee, what a well thought out test and enjoyable video. Can't wait for the next one.

  • @sypialnia_studio
    @sypialnia_studio 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So much effort man! But it pays off with such a cool video for the whole world to see and learn! Thank you from Warsaw, Poland!!

  • @bobbyduke777
    @bobbyduke777 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I appreciate your dedication to logging all the different aspects of performance. You will produce good info that is helpful. Toroidel props are being announced as game changers, i hope you have some in those tested.

  • @mitchib1440
    @mitchib1440 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +82

    RIP "Paunovic"
    Hope the patent costs are worth it for you lmaooo
    Let this be a lesson - don't get cocky.

    • @frankdobs
      @frankdobs 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Most patents are done in hopes of it being used somewhere else and owning rights

    • @ABaumstumpf
      @ABaumstumpf 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@frankdobs But at least they should have even the slightest chance of being useful.

    • @thegforce522
      @thegforce522 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      considering it was mentioned to be "quieter and more efficient than a regular drone propeller" im assuming this design was made with air in mind and not water. water really just is a different ballgame.

    • @mitchib1440
      @mitchib1440 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@thegforce522 but it was submitted for a water challenge...

    • @thegforce522
      @thegforce522 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@mitchib1440 yup, seems the submitter underestimated how vastly different water props are. it would also make more sense as to why the pitch was lower, and why the efficiency curve was going up. it is probably made for much higher rpm and lower torque applications.

  • @bigdatapimp
    @bigdatapimp 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I hope this becomes a regular thing like the PC Fan showdown 😂

    • @Drachenhebron
      @Drachenhebron 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      thinking the same thing, now i have to go check that out see if anything's new.

  • @nicklachen5060
    @nicklachen5060 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this video series makes me so happy. the bubbler is genius, very well done!

  • @JetS_Gamer
    @JetS_Gamer 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    If only I had noticed that previous video for this competition, I might of submitted something,
    Although I really look forward to seeing how all these propellers compare!

  • @Sonnell
    @Sonnell 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    Perhaps many entrants confuse aerodynamics with how fluid dynamics works in water? As water is not really compressible, while air is. In Aerodynamics compression, low and high pressure differences play a huge part. In water this is negligible compared to that.

    • @SandFl0h
      @SandFl0h 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      If the airsped is below ~100 m/s you consider it incompressible as the effect is neglectable. The only real difference, apart from viscosity, is cavitation.

    • @SandFl0h
      @SandFl0h 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      For that guy with the patent, the problem is somewhere else. Even for air, his propeller would be shit.
      You can compare it a bit to airplanes. He built a bipline-equivalent. Biplanes only advantage is structural integrity. It is easier to build them more rigid. That's why they were mostly used early on when materials etc. were not so advanced.
      The most efficient airplanes are gliders (yes, the concept of aspect ratio does apply to propellers).

    • @falcofranz5005
      @falcofranz5005 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If pressure differences would be negligible then cavitation would not be an issue, so your statement is invalid.

    • @Sonnell
      @Sonnell 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@falcofranz5005 Well, happy to disagree. First, read my comment. I wrote, "negligible compared to that". I did not write "non existent".
      And what I wrote is true. Water is not compressible, while air is hugely compressible. Completely different in this regard. Cavitation is a very special effect. It only happens at a very low pressure, and suddenly. It does not happen at high pressure. And it happens at a special case. In all the other pressures, and pressure differences it does not appear, and does not have any effect on the effectiveness of the propeller. Like 99% of the time. While air pressure differences affects the effectiveness of the propeller 100% of the time.
      So it is truly negligible compared, and it can be handled very differently than other aerodynamic effects.

    • @falcofranz5005
      @falcofranz5005 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think we both agree that the flow dynamics in air and water are very different, since water is incompressible and can undergo a phase change. Also the viscosity is different so the production and dissipation of turbulence is also different. Also the speed of sound is higher in water so shocks are unlikely to appear (cavitation will occure before that).
      What we disagree on is the term „negligible“, which I think is wrong here, because cavitation is a phenomenon that indicates drastic pressure drops. And since cavitation is very lossy it is in my eyes a defining factor and not a negligible effect.

  • @ridcullymaster2111
    @ridcullymaster2111 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very nice to be able to see the testes like that. Thank you!

  • @anatoliybelyankin
    @anatoliybelyankin 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow! Great work! Awesome!
    You did a great work! I'm waiting impatiently for the next video!
    I think the paint will better than the bubbles.

  • @alden1132
    @alden1132 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I noticed the "patent pending" blade completely changed shape under load. I think it would perform completely differently if it weren't so flimsy. Not necessarily *better,* but different.

  • @Milkmans_Son
    @Milkmans_Son 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Lake house for cheap... good one.

  • @SmilingDevil
    @SmilingDevil 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is an awesome display of how to setup Science testing… SO AWESOME although I have no use for the application, I love your methodic approach on this!

  • @Ohhelmno
    @Ohhelmno 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is an awesome idea/premise for a video and really cool execution so far. Really interested to see, just given that I know plenty of high level engineers who watch a lot of content like this on TH-cam so I’m confident at least some of these are based on pretty solid science.

  • @aardvarkmindshank
    @aardvarkmindshank 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Fuck, that sneeze was epic 😂😂😂 well done mate. Well done. Oh and get well soon lol 😂

  • @aleksjenner677
    @aleksjenner677 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    should've tested out some sort of flexible active prop

  • @boltoms
    @boltoms 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your work is absolutely incredible. I am so glad you're getting the recognition you deserve.