I think you flipped the description for adjusting the sights, if you raise the front post, your shots should go down, and if you lower it the shots should go up… you said it right a couple times but in your “Pencil” demo, you said it backwards
There is an arrow on the front sight that says 'up' which is to raise the point of impact. So if you are shooting low, turn it in the direction that says 'up'. Opposite direction if shooting high.
yes. backwards. raising front post will send barrel down when lining sights up. I alway encourage people to look at it in the extreme . if you added 3 inches of post hight the barrel would point at the dirt when aligning sights. .
I just bought a pair of the MBUS sights, and all your comments were very helpful, especially about the tightness in putting them on the rail. I used a few drops of CLP to ease them on, with a few taps of small hammer. The double rear sights were so tight, I couldn't separate them with a thumb nail but used a small screw driver; a nuisance. Thanks, too, for the sighting comments.
Finally someone who titles a video install of the sights and actually shows the actual process of installing it! Bizarre how many people title their videos about the sights and adding them to a rifle but all they do is yack and dont even show the actual process clearly or at all. Thank you!
I’m so glad I went to TH-cam!! I nearly hammered the thing onto the rail top-down... sliding it is the trick to get it on. I think I would’ve broke something
Sight radius was the word you were looking for when talking bout the distance between the sights. Longer sight radius helps for making shots further away and still functions for close up, shorter radius helps for getting sight picture faster, pretty sure you knew that already though just describing for anyone curious.
I’m definitely curious as I’ve always used iron sights or scopes. Is there a right or wrong distance for the sights to be apart? Meaning should they at least be like 12” apart or something?
I have a very long central hallway -- about 25 meters -- and use it to set an initial zero with newly installed sights/optics for with an LED boresight. Saves some time fussing around with ammo on a range. No LED boresight is perfect, but it gets you close enough to finish zeroing quickly on a 25 meter range. With an AR-15, you only need to work with the upper when bore sighting it. I recommend temporarily removing the extractor from the bolt when using a boresight and using the bolt with BCG to hold the boresight in place in the chamber. Removing the extractor while doing it prevents damage the boresight case rim which is typically soft metal.
Just ordered my Magpul sights for my Saint Victor AR15. I’m hoping I can install & get them sighted in correctly all by myself. Thank you for the tutorial. 🙂
Thank you for this vid. I bought the same sights, thought they were borked, but after watching this and reading comments, I was able to install after adding some rem oil to the sights and my rail. You all rock! 🤘
I see you made this video about 8 months ago and had very tight sights. I just installed about my 10th set of Magpul sights and they were extremely tight to mount on the rail. I never had this issue before either. At first I thought the sights or the rail was defective. I guess it's a good thing because once it is mounted you almost don't need the screw, lol. Magpul must have tightened up their tolerances a little bit, it will probably be better in the long run. Magpul sights are solid sights for the money.
Thanks for the clear instructions on installing these sights. On another note, I think you sound just like Judge Reinhold, 1 of the leading actors on 'Ruthless People' (1986 movie). You have an excellent voice. Have a great day:)
@@EagleRun23 He was the Younger Cop in Beverly Hills Cop. I think they called him Billy. You'll sound alike. Great video just picked up a pair of these two.
Read the instructions closely and followed your video which was emensly helpful. Had to tap lightly with a rubber mallet front and rear sights. Thank you!
Excellent video thank you very much for posting. I'm an amateur and I really appreciate these videos. So thank you again for posting, very helpful for me.
Thank you so much! This was very instructive. This is a new platform for me and the Magpul back up sights fit very tightly. Good thing I have that great little gunsmithing hammer with the nylon and rubber heads.
The little wingnut tool it comes with to adjust the sights can be used in place of a flathead screwdriver to tighten the sights on the picatinny rail. You can tell since there's a little section of it that's thinner that fits just right in it.
The easiest way is to keep in mind the directions on the sight refer to the bullet impact point. ie.. if you are low and the arrow on the sight says “⬅️ up “you turn the sight clockwise to raise the point of impact. Same for L/R, if the arrow says “ R ➡️ “ and your hitting right you turn the back sight adjustment counter clockwise to move the impact point left . This applies to all sights.
Thank you for the instructions. I will note this though: I used the mbus pro sights. The front sight post was labeled up. Following the "front sight is opposite" saying, I went "down." After two sets of three rounds I realized the sight had that already taken into account. Lol
I dot front site with bright orange nail polish. Small drop. I cut small peep of rear for center mass. If need more, get out sniper.... Thanks Bud for the help
The stuff on the end of the screw is called "microencapsulation" .. it's basically dry powdered loctite/thread locker.. in automotive they say so replace these screws every time as if the stuff is one time use... Idk you could surely just put a drop on if you're worried about it coming loose
I got these for my Ruger PC carbine and unfortunately the chassis beneath the back rail is too shallow for the “flip-up” mechanism to work. The leaver hits the chassis. It’s too bad because I love these sights.
Easiest way to think about it is which direction does the round need to go. Shot is high you adjust down, shot is right you bring it left. Same for scopes and dots.
yes sir! correct. Never meant for the video to get so much views. I am always learning how best to do stuff and explain stuff. I def mixed up a few statements but my illustration was correct, haha
But that's contradicting what other people are saying about the FORS acronym. FORS method means if you need to take your shots down you would adjust the front sight post up, I'm confused?
@@alexmundy9932Lowering the front sight makes you bring the butt of the rifle down to get the sights lined up. Which means the next round will impact higher.
A complete upper from a major manufacturer came with a Magpul rear sight. It's an unadulterated JUNK POS. I installed it, played with its chintzy mechanism a couple times, promptly ripped it off, smashed it with a ballpeen hammer to prevent any reuse by anyone, and pitched it into the trash bin. It had no repeatability whatsoever when flipped up, and its flimsy construction would obviously soon break off under field use. There is no comparison between this rubbish and the KAC made for the USMC, or the (less expensive) Troy Industries, also made for U.S. Government procurement. As to sight adjustment, the video does well in describing how to which way to move a front post and rear aperture to zero a rifle with iron sights.
I think you said it backwards. If you raise the front post, you will lower the point of impact. If you lower the front post, you will raise the point of impact. In your example, you were shooting high. Therefore, you would need to raise the front post. The way I understood you to say it was backwards.
I noticed the same thing when I watched this video. You are right Bill. EagleRun may have been thinking in terms of the barrel perspective and not the sight perspective. I'm surprised I had to read this far down to find someone who was paying attention.
@@cakalackybilly1286 what was funny about it was that he was saying that it was backwards to what you would normally think and to make sure to do it the right way. Then he describes how to do it...the wrong way...LOL
My magpul sights are tight on the rails also. I also went to adjust the rear sight and the knob popped off and the small indent bearing went flying! The roll pin was missing, made a new one for it. Ended up not using them because the rear sight interfered with my 1x6 scope. The riser on my scope is perfect for co-witnessing flip ups but can't get it far enough back for eye box on scope.
You are tapping the optics towards the front of the rail. Shouldn’t you tap them towards the back so that way recoil will only reinforce their position? That’s what I’ve read on optics anyway so I would imagine it would be the same for iron sights.
its in a rail slot and on there super tight. I would have had to tap it 14" all the way back down from the other side, that would have been sketchy! haha
@@EagleRun23 lol I didn’t mean other side of the gun. I meant while the screws are in and inside the rail. While the optic is loose tap it to the rear (inside the rail) so the recoil can only reinforce the position. After that you use Loctite or whatever. It’s probably just a bigger issue when you have a 6X or so because the slightest change will be magnified. I remember looking it up when I put on my Primary Arms Raptor 1-6 . There’s a little back and forth in rails themselves. Again probably not an issue with iron sights. I still tapped them towards the back anyway… lol
I installed my front sight backwards so I don't have to see the ugly backside of it and it works just great, just in case anyone else didn't like seeing the ugly backside of the sight. Highly suggested
The idea of folding to the rear is because your gun is always faced and maneuvered forward, walking, running, poking your barrel forward through brush hitting a branch or bashing and breaking a glass window etc you want your sight to fold rather than break , especially a polymer one , they get somewhat brittle if super cold . Stressing metal sights mounted backwards can end up tweaking the hinge pin assembly so they get loose and sloppy or dont close all the way
I also installed mine backward but for the reason it makes more sense that the button is behind the sight. Makes it easier and faster to activate the switch. With it installed “correctly” you have to make sure your thumb is in front of the sight when you hit the switch, then move your your hand back to where you normally grip.
Theoretically and some rigs have gas blocks with pic rails. They really get hot. Handguards not so much. You would have to intentionally be doing some sort of burn down or ww3 for it to be a concern in my opinion :)
I ran into the same issue when installing mine on my handguard (Aim Sports Wraith). I ended up using the rubber mallet that came with my roll punch kit to tap it on.
Ive aleays been taught to put the front peg on the target, not under it, is that just this sight that is different, or are there just different ways to use iron sights?
Just a heads up, the front sight zero tool has a groove on the top to tighten the screw on the sights. No need for a screw driver. Also, install the front sight by sliding it TOWARDS the barrel tip. Not from the tip back.
Just got my magpul sights in...I can't fit them over multiple rails. The rear sight stops before it even reaches the first rail slot, let alone the second slot. It seems as if I have to take a dremel tool to widen the seating portion of the sights. This is ridiculous. Fyi...both are Midwest Industries rails. I do not have a teflon hammer nor a hair dryer to warm it up.
The problem with these split rail sights is that the rail is in two pieces! Micro differences between the front and rear rails and sights! Plus, they are composite, giving a little! I've noticed my mono rail 22lr and 12 ga have very tight shot groups! On to something? No split rail, plus they are Alum., all metal. Mabey take down pins for split rail ar's need a tighter tolerance? Bandaid? Thread tape? Scotch Tape? I would love to figure out my S&W 15-22 accuracy problem, Any Ideas? MBUS worked great for first 100 rounds or so, then couldn't hit anything! Mabey loose barrel? Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
I think that's definitely something to keep in mind when dialing in sights. especially if the front sight base is just a few spots of picatinny on top of the gas block with no floating barrel. shooting past 100 yards with that could certainly lead to inaccuracy.
you have it backwards! If you're shots are high, you raise the front sight post, not lower it. This is the problem with youtube... Anyone can act like an expert even when you don't know what you're doing!
I said it correctly. I have done it for 20 years and taught dozens of people how. The perspective is if you are raising the post or raising the shot. Easy to slip up that’s why I used the pen to illustrate.
@@EagleRun23 Never have I raised my front post and had my next shot go higher, and that’s exactly what you said will happen @ 10:56, and you were using your pen to illustrate it incorrectly.
The Magpul’s are a bit low you may want to look at some of the true iron sites that are made of metal I believe the troy industries and the Midwest industries are a little taller I don’t have measurements to confirm that
I have not tried it at the range yet, using a magnetic laser bore sighting tool I wound up with my rear sight almost all the way left and my front sight almost all the way down. I'm wondering, could my set of sights be defective, or are these extreme settings sometimes required with MBUS sights? I don't recall ever needing such extreme adjustments on an M16.
I’m curious what the outcome of your sighting problem was. I’m having the same issue. My front site is all the way down and I’m still shooting low. Any suggestions?
@@chuckcunningham9979 Not resolved. The range near me that can accommodate rifles has been closed for the last several months, so I've had non opportunity to sight the weapon in for real.
@@rangersmith4652 - Thanks for responding. I’m probably going to take the sights off and try re-installation. If that doesn’t work, I’ll just take them off and stick to my scope. Thanks again.
So ive installed my rear sight with no problem and i got the front one on with no problem but when i try to pop up my front sight it wont pop up. When i take it off the rail it pops up. What do i do?
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This was super helpful, I was losing my mind trying to get the front sight on. Never occurred to me to just hammer it on
Same problem here, before the video even played I saw his hammer on the table and just facepalmed
Man it took forever to squeeze the front sight on
Junk tore the shit out of a wilson combat
What utter crap
I think you flipped the description for adjusting the sights, if you raise the front post, your shots should go down, and if you lower it the shots should go up… you said it right a couple times but in your “Pencil” demo, you said it backwards
You are correct.
Thank you. I was here for this specific sight adjustment, but I have zeroed several rifles. So, this backward explanation bothered me.
If if your shooting hight? You go up?
There is an arrow on the front sight that says 'up' which is to raise the point of impact. So if you are shooting low, turn it in the direction that says 'up'. Opposite direction if shooting high.
Yeah, and that's funny because he did say it's opposite , and then he did the opposite
yes. backwards. raising front post will send barrel down when lining sights up. I alway encourage people to look at it in the extreme . if you added 3 inches of post hight the barrel would point at the dirt when aligning sights. .
I just bought a pair of the MBUS sights, and all your comments were very helpful, especially about the tightness in putting them on the rail. I used a few drops of CLP to ease them on, with a few taps of small hammer. The double rear sights were so tight, I couldn't separate them with a thumb nail but used a small screw driver; a nuisance. Thanks, too, for the sighting comments.
Same here. Definitely no slop!
I have these sights they are a nuisance
Finally someone who titles a video install of the sights and actually shows the actual process of installing it! Bizarre how many people title their videos about the sights and adding them to a rifle but all they do is yack and dont even show the actual process clearly or at all. Thank you!
I’m so glad I went to TH-cam!! I nearly hammered the thing onto the rail top-down... sliding it is the trick to get it on. I think I would’ve broke something
they arent normally this tight!! not sure why yours and mine were. Glad you are good to go!
Sight radius was the word you were looking for when talking bout the distance between the sights. Longer sight radius helps for making shots further away and still functions for close up, shorter radius helps for getting sight picture faster, pretty sure you knew that already though just describing for anyone curious.
I’m definitely curious as I’ve always used iron sights or scopes. Is there a right or wrong distance for the sights to be apart? Meaning should they at least be like 12” apart or something?
I have a very long central hallway -- about 25 meters -- and use it to set an initial zero with newly installed sights/optics for with an LED boresight. Saves some time fussing around with ammo on a range. No LED boresight is perfect, but it gets you close enough to finish zeroing quickly on a 25 meter range. With an AR-15, you only need to work with the upper when bore sighting it. I recommend temporarily removing the extractor from the bolt when using a boresight and using the bolt with BCG to hold the boresight in place in the chamber. Removing the extractor while doing it prevents damage the boresight case rim which is typically soft metal.
Just ordered my Magpul sights for my Saint Victor AR15. I’m hoping I can install & get them sighted in correctly all by myself. Thank you for the tutorial. 🙂
FORS…..front opposite, rear same. A good crutch to remember sight adjustment.
Thank you for this vid. I bought the same sights, thought they were borked, but after watching this and reading comments, I was able to install after adding some rem oil to the sights and my rail. You all rock! 🤘
No help from the asshole in the video tho am I right..?
I have tried to install this for hours it has left me in tears before
Hope you got it!
I see you made this video about 8 months ago and had very tight sights. I just installed about my 10th set of Magpul sights and they were extremely tight to mount on the rail. I never had this issue before either. At first I thought the sights or the rail was defective. I guess it's a good thing because once it is mounted you almost don't need the screw, lol. Magpul must have tightened up their tolerances a little bit, it will probably be better in the long run. Magpul sights are solid sights for the money.
Use a hair dryer to warm the plastic up....slips on way easier
@@christinaperez254
Great idea. Thank you.
i had to use the back end of a pocket knife to hit the sight in lol!
@@azuro1637
Lol, well, now that they're on, they should stay in place forever. Best of luck.
@@christinaperez254 Thanks. I was thinking WTF, why won't it go on the rail?
Thanks for the clear instructions on installing these sights. On another note, I think you sound just like Judge Reinhold, 1 of the leading actors on 'Ruthless People' (1986 movie). You have an excellent voice. Have a great day:)
haha, not sure who Judge is, but ill take the compliment! thanks for watching!
@@EagleRun23
He was the Younger Cop in Beverly Hills Cop. I think they called him Billy. You'll sound alike. Great video just picked up a pair of these two.
I love this sight it’s the best one I’ve ever seen. I wouldn’t change anything about it.
The bigger/smaller aperture hole is for night and day shooting. Smaller hole, smaller pupil for days. Larger hole, larger pupil for night shooting.
Also larger hole for up close
Read the instructions closely and followed your video which was emensly helpful. Had to tap lightly with a rubber mallet front and rear sights. Thank you!
The thumb grasp part of your front sight tool is the flat head needed to tighten or loosen your screws. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for this video! The info on sighting it in makes perfect sense!
Thank u this was a awesome. Showing us who never did this step by step. Not assuming we know What u skipped.
Glad it was helpful!
I installed these on my rifle before watching this and I am so relieved to see I put them both on facing the right direction 😂
Perfect video man I appreciate it! I understand alot better about zeroing mine.. can't wait to get home
Glad to hear it!
Follow the grouping. If you're hitting High move the front sight up if your hitting low move the front sight down
Another way of saying it is------- Up is down and down is up.
Job well done! Great tips, illustration, and explanations!
Excellent video thank you very much for posting. I'm an amateur and I really appreciate these videos. So thank you again for posting, very helpful for me.
youre the man, i had it installed by the end of the video, awesome information !!
Glad it helped, i just published an updated version of this too on some BUIS pro sights, metal ones. enjoy!
Thank you so much! This was very instructive. This is a new platform for me and the Magpul back up sights fit very tightly. Good thing I have that great little gunsmithing hammer with the nylon and rubber heads.
Good Video-
Lower the post raises the barrel a guy taught me.
Thank you for the video…helped out on my KSG.
Just terrific and very detailed. Thank you
The little wingnut tool it comes with to adjust the sights can be used in place of a flathead screwdriver to tighten the sights on the picatinny rail. You can tell since there's a little section of it that's thinner that fits just right in it.
This was the info I was looking for thank you
The easiest way is to keep in mind the directions on the sight refer to the bullet impact point. ie.. if you are low and the arrow on the sight says “⬅️ up “you turn the sight clockwise to raise the point of impact. Same for L/R, if the arrow says “ R ➡️ “ and your hitting right you turn the back sight adjustment counter clockwise to move the impact point left . This applies to all sights.
Thank you so much . For lesson. Perfect tutorial.
Your rear peep sight has two settings. The smaller peep or hole is your daylight aperture. The larger peep or hole is your night time aperture.
Looks like i bought the same stuff you did. This was informative.👍
Great to hear! we are always building a gun or working on something, thanks for watching!
Great video on install and adjustment/zeroing instructions, I knew what you meant
Thanks just got these today . Can’t wait to try them out
Good luck!
Thank you for the instructions.
I will note this though: I used the mbus pro sights. The front sight post was labeled up. Following the "front sight is opposite" saying, I went "down." After two sets of three rounds I realized the sight had that already taken into account. Lol
Mine fit tight like that, too. The screws can be installed using the edge of the front sight tool to tighten.
I dot front site with bright orange nail polish. Small drop. I cut small peep of rear for center mass. If need more, get out sniper.... Thanks Bud for the help
I just found this video after I cut my fingers on the rail trying to install the rear sight. It’s definitely a tight fit. 😂
I just made a new one with some AT3 pros. They aren’t that tight. :) welcome brother. Thanks for watching!
I just built a PSA, mine were tight as well.
Happy i found this.
Mine came with an instruction QR codes that lead to nothing. I was like wtf is this key for. Lol.
The "coating" on the screw is a lock--tite jel, just makes it a cleaner process.
How much does it change the POI for each click of the front post?
assuming 100 yards,,,,, its weird and imprecise, but one click is about 1.25 MOA. moa = 1 inch per 100 yards.
Looks like I've installed the front sight post backwards on 2 rifles in a row 😂😂😂😂 woooow. Thanks brother.
ohh no! haha
@EagleRun23 oh no is right. It was both sights. Lol, thank you for the video.
The front sight tool is nifty and all... But we were taught to use the tip of a round to depress the detent to turn it.
The stuff on the end of the screw is called "microencapsulation" .. it's basically dry powdered loctite/thread locker.. in automotive they say so replace these screws every time as if the stuff is one time use... Idk you could surely just put a drop on if you're worried about it coming loose
On one of mine the sights flip opposite directions, they give me the most distance on that particular weapon, I don't see a problem
I got these for my Ruger PC carbine and unfortunately the chassis beneath the back rail is too shallow for the “flip-up” mechanism to work. The leaver hits the chassis. It’s too bad because I love these sights.
The front sight picture you describe is commonly called " pumpkin on a fence post".
Easiest way to think about it is which direction does the round need to go. Shot is high you adjust down, shot is right you bring it left. Same for scopes and dots.
yes sir! correct. Never meant for the video to get so much views. I am always learning how best to do stuff and explain stuff. I def mixed up a few statements but my illustration was correct, haha
But that's contradicting what other people are saying about the FORS acronym. FORS method means if you need to take your shots down you would adjust the front sight post up, I'm confused?
@@alexmundy9932Lowering the front sight makes you bring the butt of the rifle down to get the sights lined up. Which means the next round will impact higher.
Is this the same guy that does the 1st amendment audits!? Sounds just like his voice. Love that guy
haha, not me, i watch those , kinda fun i am not that provocative, haha they just make me mad sometimes!
A complete upper from a major manufacturer came with a Magpul rear sight. It's an unadulterated JUNK POS. I installed it, played with its chintzy mechanism a couple times, promptly ripped it off, smashed it with a ballpeen hammer to prevent any reuse by anyone, and pitched it into the trash bin. It had no repeatability whatsoever when flipped up, and its flimsy construction would obviously soon break off under field use. There is no comparison between this rubbish and the KAC made for the USMC, or the (less expensive) Troy Industries, also made for U.S. Government procurement. As to sight adjustment, the video does well in describing how to which way to move a front post and rear aperture to zero a rifle with iron sights.
I think you said it backwards. If you raise the front post, you will lower the point of impact. If you lower the front post, you will raise the point of impact. In your example, you were shooting high. Therefore, you would need to raise the front post. The way I understood you to say it was backwards.
I noticed the same thing when I watched this video. You are right Bill. EagleRun may have been thinking in terms of the barrel perspective and not the sight perspective. I'm surprised I had to read this far down to find someone who was paying attention.
@@cakalackybilly1286 what was funny about it was that he was saying that it was backwards to what you would normally think and to make sure to do it the right way. Then he describes how to do it...the wrong way...LOL
My magpul sights are tight on the rails also. I also went to adjust the rear sight and the knob popped off and the small indent bearing went flying! The roll pin was missing, made a new one for it. Ended up not using them because the rear sight interfered with my 1x6 scope.
The riser on my scope is perfect for co-witnessing flip ups but can't get it far enough back for eye box on scope.
ohh wow, thats a bummer of a situation! haha, Maybe try a 45 deg mount? thats what a some do with a scope. thanks for watching!
Great video. Was nervous to tap it w hammer but had to
They are easier to install if you install them when they are already flipped up and in the ready position
You are tapping the optics towards the front of the rail. Shouldn’t you tap them towards the back so that way recoil will only reinforce their position? That’s what I’ve read on optics anyway so I would imagine it would be the same for iron sights.
its in a rail slot and on there super tight. I would have had to tap it 14" all the way back down from the other side, that would have been sketchy! haha
@@EagleRun23 lol I didn’t mean other side of the gun. I meant while the screws are in and inside the rail. While the optic is loose tap it to the rear (inside the rail) so the recoil can only reinforce the position. After that you use Loctite or whatever. It’s probably just a bigger issue when you have a 6X or so because the slightest change will be magnified. I remember looking it up when I put on my Primary Arms Raptor 1-6 . There’s a little back and forth in rails themselves. Again probably not an issue with iron sights. I still tapped them towards the back anyway… lol
I installed my front sight backwards so I don't have to see the ugly backside of it and it works just great, just in case anyone else didn't like seeing the ugly backside of the sight. Highly suggested
It's almost like they designed them to be constantly closed. All other flip ups are visually pleasing to look at
@@theairwaybat1830 I agree, they could have done something different
The idea of folding to the rear is because your gun is always faced and maneuvered forward, walking, running, poking your barrel forward through brush hitting a branch or bashing and breaking a glass window etc you want your sight to fold rather than break , especially a polymer one , they get somewhat brittle if super cold . Stressing metal sights mounted backwards can end up tweaking the hinge pin assembly so they get loose and sloppy or dont close all the way
I also installed mine backward but for the reason it makes more sense that the button is behind the sight. Makes it easier and faster to activate the switch. With it installed “correctly” you have to make sure your thumb is in front of the sight when you hit the switch, then move your your hand back to where you normally grip.
The adjustment is to move the group to where you aiming at. It's simpler to think that way
Since they are plastic, couldn’t the front sight warp from the heat of the barrel?
Theoretically and some rigs have gas blocks with pic rails. They really get hot. Handguards not so much. You would have to intentionally be doing some sort of burn down or ww3 for it to be a concern in my opinion :)
The handle on the adjustment tool is meant for tightening the screw.
Is it possible to use a lazer to zero in then go to range to make minor adjustments?
I think u installed them backwards. The thumb punch should be facing you not away from you.
I used this sight at 100 yards on keltec cmr-30 . Wow is it accurate. No need for a scope.
I ran into the same issue when installing mine on my handguard (Aim Sports Wraith). I ended up using the rubber mallet that came with my roll punch kit to tap it on.
Use a hair dryer to heat the plastic a bit...slips on easier
Ive aleays been taught to put the front peg on the target, not under it, is that just this sight that is different, or are there just different ways to use iron sights?
All sorts of schools of thought. But ya dot the i is what I do.
Just a heads up, the front sight zero tool has a groove on the top to tighten the screw on the sights. No need for a screw driver. Also, install the front sight by sliding it TOWARDS the barrel tip. Not from the tip back.
I put those fuckers on backwards lmao. Thanks for the video, thanks to the commenters too.
Just got my magpul sights in...I can't fit them over multiple rails. The rear sight stops before it even reaches the first rail slot, let alone the second slot. It seems as if I have to take a dremel tool to widen the seating portion of the sights. This is ridiculous.
Fyi...both are Midwest Industries rails. I do not have a teflon hammer nor a hair dryer to warm it up.
People in comments gave me crap for tapping them in with a nylon hammer. But it work and there was no damage. Do what you gotta do :)
The problem with these split rail sights is that the rail is in two pieces! Micro differences between the front and rear rails and sights! Plus, they are composite, giving a little! I've noticed my mono rail 22lr and 12 ga have very tight shot groups! On to something? No split rail, plus they are Alum., all metal. Mabey take down pins for split rail ar's need a tighter tolerance? Bandaid? Thread tape? Scotch Tape? I would love to figure out my S&W 15-22 accuracy problem, Any Ideas? MBUS worked great for first 100 rounds or so, then couldn't hit anything! Mabey loose barrel? Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
I think that's definitely something to keep in mind when dialing in sights. especially if the front sight base is just a few spots of picatinny on top of the gas block with no floating barrel. shooting past 100 yards with that could certainly lead to inaccuracy.
Mine was so tight, at one point I wasn’t sure I bought the right one.
you have it backwards! If you're shots are high, you raise the front sight post, not lower it. This is the problem with youtube... Anyone can act like an expert even when you don't know what you're doing!
I said it correctly. I have done it for 20 years and taught dozens of people how. The perspective is if you are raising the post or raising the shot. Easy to slip up that’s why I used the pen to illustrate.
FORS
@@EagleRun23 Never have I raised my front post and had my next shot go higher, and that’s exactly what you said will happen @ 10:56, and you were using your pen to illustrate it incorrectly.
@@scottmorrow5497 sorry if I crossed you up. I just have mixed it up.
That's what I thought.
If you raise the post your POI will drop.
is it normal to have the backsight adjusted all the way to the left in order for the round to go where you want it to go when you line the sights up??
My front sight doesn’t sit as flat as yours does.
With boardsides eliminate how we're going to the range?
Thanks. These things are so tight it's stupid.
Thxs for sharing. It helped
No problem 👍
What instructions? Mine didn't come with any.
My front sight is good with night but it seems like it’s more to the left I need more right .. help
F.O.R.S
front opposite rear same
I gave up on them. I'm getting my a red dot
So does anyone else have to press their cheek super deep into their stock to get a sight picture? It’s almost as if they’re too low for me. Any help?
The Magpul’s are a bit low you may want to look at some of the true iron sites that are made of metal I believe the troy industries and the Midwest industries are a little taller I don’t have measurements to confirm that
Thank you.
If I raise the front of my barrel the round impacts lower? Something doesn’t sound right.
its possible I I stated it incorrectly one time but the video and the visuals are correct.
I don’t have the little tool thingy
amazon has them or you can borrow at a range
Best way to explain front sights is to move the sight to where the bullets are hitting
Your a regular Picasso at drawing. J/k. Good video
Is it odd if I have to have the rear aperture aligned far to the left to be zero?
ya I would check that your mount is square and true. that seems odd! lmk if you need help!
Are you sure you mounted them correctly? I mounted mine with the Push Button in front not the back.
ya? i think so!
I have not tried it at the range yet, using a magnetic laser bore sighting tool I wound up with my rear sight almost all the way left and my front sight almost all the way down. I'm wondering, could my set of sights be defective, or are these extreme settings sometimes required with MBUS sights? I don't recall ever needing such extreme adjustments on an M16.
When they aren’t lined up straight but the shoot straight that makes me frustrated.
I’m curious what the outcome of your sighting problem was. I’m having the same issue. My front site is all the way down and I’m still shooting low. Any suggestions?
@@chuckcunningham9979 Not resolved. The range near me that can accommodate rifles has been closed for the last several months, so I've had non opportunity to sight the weapon in for real.
@@rangersmith4652 - Thanks for responding. I’m probably going to take the sights off and try re-installation. If that doesn’t work, I’ll just take them off and stick to my scope.
Thanks again.
A small piece of tape (I use 3m painters blue) over the nut will hold it in place.
Use the FORS rule:
Front Opposite Rear Same.
Just did another one of these videos and talked more about out that! Great comment!
If i get my sights zeroed and then I move the sight back on the rail towards the charging handle will I loose zero?
yes, also you want the longest sight distance, ideally. wont change much though, especially if you chose like a 25y zero or something closer
you sure are soft spoken
:) thanks homie.
So ive installed my rear sight with no problem and i got the front one on with no problem but when i try to pop up my front sight it wont pop up. When i take it off the rail it pops up. What do i do?
Sounds like the screw is too tight on the rail.