How To Properly Zero a Red Dot
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- John Lovell hits the range to explain his 3 step method for establishing a proper red dot zero for optic equipped pistols.
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I was missing this gun content... thank John!
This guy is so polite.... makes learning something a pleasure.
Polite, but also very honest. But like you said I'd imagine a class with John would be a blast.
I appreciate how you simplify zeroing for those of us who might be new to optics on pistols. A solid zero is everything for accuracy and confidence at the range.
As a graduate of hillsdale college and someone very familiar with their pistol program, I am so happy to hear you guys are sponsored by them!
Perfect timing, John.
I was at the range last week and could have used this advice. At 63 years old my vision aint at its best, that and two shoulder surgeries later I had a difficult time getting Zeroed. I hope to GOD I never have to take a 25 yard shot with my pistol. Thanks for the Tips !!
I really needed this earlier this year! I made every mistake I could. Wrong screws caused the optic to nail my forehead after one shot at bench rest. No spacer caused the zero to wiggle all over. And even my fundamentals are needing improvement. Wow, thanks for this video!
Just got my first green dot, a 407k, 3 days ago. Thanks for the upload, this is exactly what I needed.
Should've switched to dots a long, long time ago. Such a difference.
Be sure to watch John's 1, 2, 3 draw to pistol presentation so you "find the dot" EVERYTIME. I have the 407K on my EDC too.
The holosuns come with a 25YD zero supposedly… at least that’s what my fookin instructions said….
Exactly! Well done John! Thanks for the tutorial. Keep the excellent content coming! And I feel ya on the older eyes 😉
What an awesome sponsor. Hillsdale is the best
John, Thank you for making the video and keeping it real. I have seen you shoot over the years, and you are a "trained" and "practiced" shooter. Most of us are not [natural] shooters. The reason I bring that up is, it should be encouragement to those that are new to shooting that they can become good shooters with training and practice. I appreciate that you didn't shot steel at 20 meters (approx. 22 yds), but actually shot paper. Many GunTubers will shoot steel at 20 to 25 yds, because they don't want us to see how bad their groupings are at that distance. Again, thank you for the video.
WPSN subscriber here. ❤ For the algorithm
Glad to see this type of content again. And thank you for breaking down zeroing a red dot barney style I thought I was crazy trying to figure it out on my own.
Nice to see you back on TH-cam!
Nice! Warrior Poet Society Classic content. Thank you.
Aim small, miss small. Loved The Patriot movie.
Perfect timing. Im from the future and I have cool guy hardware now.
Love the humbleness John... This is why I love your channel. Can't go wrong with a good Christian family man!
That “unsubscribe” shot is what I like to call “old settler” happens to me when I get annoyed 😂. I need to settle down
Thank you sir. I’m glad you emphasized the need for solid fundamentals. I run into too many people that are under the impression that red dots are plug and play, and will clean up any shooter deficiencies.
On a side note, glad to see you partnered up with Hillsdale College. I’m wrapping up my second class, and it’s been fantastic.😎✌️
Good vid John! Also nice you mentioned to do a second adjustment at distance 20m. A 7 yd zero will produce shots over bore from 7-25 yards.. so you'll miss high if you don't re-adjust to a flatter trajectory after the initial 7 yard setting. Looking at the data the 15 yard zero gives you a minimal POI over bore out to the farther distance, I think it stays pretty flat out to 90 yards. The 25 yard trajectory is more flat up close but falls of I think around 70 yards due to lower flight path.
Seems like my phone is listening to me and telling John what I'm doing. His videos seem to come at the right times!
If heaven is filled with guys like John, I'm on board! Can't wait!
Glad to see more of what I started watching this channel for years ago! Nice!
Hillsdale College ROCKS!! Thanks, John :)
Always loved your WP intro John! 👍
"perfectly good zero, destroyed"
I felt that. 😂
Ok John...what is going on?! I say to my wife last night, "I'm not sure Hellcat red dot is zeroed correctly." THE NEXT DAY, you drop the video I need. This is just scary 🤣😅
Hopefully it's not because she and John are... Uhh.... Nevermind.
Thanks for bringing back some training videos!
I used a sandbag designed for resting the front of a rifle on to zero my Acro p2 on my Glock 45. At 10 yards I was getting 5 rounds into basically one hole like this. It’s very good to go for shooting while standing and moving. Thanks for the video, I appreciate a man of good character.
I just joined the pistol optic club with my recent purchase of a G47 (my first Glock) and a Holosun SCS. The SCS is great in how low it sits in the mount. You can co-witness with factory height iron sights so aiming it is essentially no different than aiming with iron sights. It's an interesting transition from being "gun Amish" with handguns for the past 25 years.
Thank you for explaining how the turrets work. I always end up going the wrong way before I go the right way before I go the wrong way before I finally get it to where it should've been before I shot 2 mags.
Just got a red dot on my Sig. Thanks for the lessons.
John….. stop stalking me 😂😂 just got my retirement pistol with a dot. 😂 I’ve been trying to do more research than I did with my 320 (now the wife’s 😂) with my 2011 on a zero. ATW
No, he's stalking me.❤😂 lovelle
No he is stalking me. I just got my first red dot this week.
What 2011 did you buy
Y'all funny 😂
Thanks again, John
Hillsdale! Great sponsors
Good video sir. I’m 51 now and I started wearing 1.25 cheater glasses when I was 48 it got me back to like when I was 20. It’s heck getting old.
Great video John. I know you know this just a clarification for newbies, ignore the adjustment arrows on your red dots until you are on paper. Turn it however you have to turn it to get the dot on top of that front post. Once you are on paper then adjust the impact. If you want the impact to go up, move in the direction of the up arrow (as you said in the video). Many people think their adjustments are backwards because they pay attention to the adjustments they make before they are on the paper.
Good to see you posting again. How did ya'll weather the Hurricane? Is the Lovel family alive and well?
Good to know someone else zeros like me! The past 3-4 dots ive zeroed have been absolutely perfect after adjusting the dot to cowitness irons
Nothing has screwed up zeroing more for me than trying to cowitness with my irons.
@@Willis2515 damn bro😂
I find a green dot is easier to see for me personally. I'm rocking a 508T with a green reticle, and I love it.
zero with your carry ammo, it will impact different than your range ammo
unless it doesn't, lol, but best confirm
I shoot the G9 80gr +P for carry and found that it has the same zero at 15yd as the blazer 115gr that I shoot for the range. Works on my g19, g43, and 365. Very happy with that 😆 Wish rifles were the same
I use 2x2 sticky/post it notes on my target. You can get a variety of colors and be able to see your shot. I will place a target paster in middle to start at 7 yards. When I work on trigger control I use those 3/4" pasters a lot and work my way back. Great video John.
Fantastic video, as always. You always provide such useful info.
I love you left the unsubscribe shot in there, makes me feel better. 20 yards standing with a pistol is tough
Thanks for the video John. I'm use to sighting in my rifles and knowing I got a great zero. But when I sighted in my first pistol red dot at 20 yards I kept chasing the zero and finally after tons of rounds I realized I'm not gonna get a rifle type zero. My OCD was getting the best of me.
Even on a makeshift rest (bench, barrel, etc.), grip and trigger still make or break the shot. That's been a hard lesson for me to learn. Thanks for this excellent video!
Perfect timing, got my first red dot arriving today in the mail. For a rifle, but I'm sure the same concepts apply.
Mostly, you just need to concentrate on keeping the rifle still when pulling the trigger. I had to really focus on keeping the rifle from moving when I adjusted my new red dot. I did like his idea of cushioning the rifle while you're adjusting it.
He has two different pistols in the video. Love you John.
My brother is planning on getting a red dot so I'll be sharing this with him.
Good stuff.👍
Thank you 🇨🇦
Call me crazy, but that holosun sure looks like a vortex! Great video, and I appreciate you sharing your skill, and tricks of the trade with us!!
Started with a Holosun and finished with a Vortex. Two zeroes for the price of one😃
Nice. Now can you do a video for us green-dot guys?
Thanks, brother, for letting me know I am a lousy shot with impaired vision and I will never be able to zero my red dot. I guess I will switch to a sawed-off.
I've not watched the whole video yet but I bet what you do is shoot it, adjust the dot, shoot is again until you are hitting what you are aiming at. Probably at 10 yards. Lets see if I'm right...
Ok I missed the co-witness with iron sights first...so far so good.
Great information, and thank you.
Thank You.
Thank you for the video, brother. Keep doin' the Lord's work!
Great video John..... Love the humor, makes it fun. I usually zero on my laser academy app then i bench rest at 15 meters with any adjustments needed.. Then i reconfirm standing up. Usually gives me awesome accuracy out to 36 yds or 25 shooting inside
Thank you for accurately describing "calling your shots" ;-)
I appreciate the fact that I don’t hear the reset of the trigger right before the shot, but right after the shot well before the next. BANG “OFF/ON” 🎉
Thank You sir 👍🇺🇸
Thanks for this
Great info
Long time fan and amateur at distance shooting. I would like to see a video understanding the setup of a variable scope and basic skills and zeroing.
6:26 🤣 You guys are the best
Alright John, good info.
I recently got a dot for the one pistol I have that can take one. S&W Metal 2.0.
Dot is a Deltapoint Pro.
Zero at 15 yards for me.
Here's my problem. Drawing from concealment and acquiring the dot quickly.
Don't know if you have a video on that or not. I've looked on TH-cam but since you, DJ and a few others are the ones I trust, I won't go to another Guntuber.
Awesome videos thanks
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO 😊😊😊😊
What a guy
Thanks Man I appreciate it
And now we know. Thanks 👍
Are you running the circle and dot or just dot on your setup? Thanks for continuing to share your wisdom to us Padawans!
Kool guy gear! Love it!
Great video. You sort of confused me a bit by talking yards and then switching up to referring to meters for distance.
Never having been officially trained with sidearm, I’m happy to have all rounds within the silhouette at 20 yds. Can still put them on a nickle-size with AR and same hole with bolt-action. Only two of my pistols have red dots, my carry does not. Put the dot on the laser at 15 yds, but it was nowhere close to the irons.
I have never had any luck benching my pistol. I get such wacky results every time I tried, I just don't bother anymore. I'll just try to shoot freehand and focus on the fundamentals, maybe get a couple REALLY good dry fire reps in before.
*How To Properly Zero a Red Dot*
1) Take firearm out of box.
2) Confirm Iron sights zero (POA/POI).
3) Save your money (approx. $300) and stick with the iron sights (no batteries, no "dot finding", no lint, no brightness problems, no damages, no fuss).
How about don't tell others what to do with their money.
@@Cant_Stop-Wont-Stop0329 "How about don't tell others what to do with their money."
How about you visit the doctor and have that stick removed.
Red dots are awesome. Really worth having on a CCW gun.
Wait till your 63 years old. I need my Red dot.
@@Cant_Stop-Wont-Stop0329 " How about don't tell others what to do with their money. "
How about removing that stick.
haha no matter how I try to train out the flinch reflex I still manage to do it sometimes. I recently got a nice 1911 with a good trigger. Problem was gone for about 500 rounds until my subconscious learned the 1911 trigger. I always tend to brace for impact, but usually it's after the shot breaks. On occasion I still pull a shot, and it always catches me by surprise and makes me laugh at myself for being so dumb when trying to go slow and aim.
Now that you have your zero for the 20m set, what, if any would the point of impact shift or change back at the 7 yard line? Would it still hit point of aim? Would you be able to drill nickels 15ft and closer or would there be a slight difference? Thanks! Love your content! Keep the gun/ reviews/ shooting content coming
I just used a laser dryfire system about 18-20 feet from a wall and lined the laser and my dot up 🤷 It's working good.
My back hurts too much to believe I'm from the future, lol.
Brother, just get your first set of glasses. I'm telling you, you'll put those things on and it's like seeing HD for the first time. Amazing.
John you always show shooting both hands, what happens when you have to shoot with 1 hand? what happens if you have to shoot OFF hand? that would be fun to see.
use a chamber laser bore sighting tool to get it close before going to the range
locally 338 Lapua is $160 for 20 rounds, with ammo costs that high how many shots would you fire for a group?
460 S&W is $60 for 20 rounds
$26 for 50 rounds of 9mm 115 & 125 grain fmj
$12.00 for 9 mm. 🤷♂️
I second that !! .24¢ per round. Blazer $12 /50 box.
Great content, John! I never thought I’d say this to John Lovell, but check your grip. You are re-gripping after every shot, which tells me your grip needs some help. Keep on bringing that much needed instruction.
This is why I now run irons 😂 I rather be shootin than chasing zeroes 😎
Never left since 1982......
Dang John, you freehanded a pretty perfect circle. Mine always look like a 3yr old did it.
great video
Just picked up a FN 510 with a HS 509T for carry when in the woods and the less I have to shoot this 10 mil the better, Expensive 200g hardcast that buck and that brings me to everyone should also make sure where their carry ammo is shooting not just where Blazers go. LOL
Unzeroing that holosun was painful. It's like watching those videos where someone got hit in the groin. 🥴🤣
He switched from Holosun optic that adjust completely backwards to vortex I believe. Holosun customer service can’t even explain there adjustments.
Very good. I didn’t quite understand you calling the shots based on the dot movement. I get the right and left movement of the dot but how do you know when it’s high based on the dot since it always streaks up?
Damn, I guess I need more work. Can’t shoot at all with my wife’s P365 with 507K but I get on my iron sight P365 and it looks like two completely different shooters. 😂😂😂
6:26 we love you too! God bless you and yours.
Finally a trickle of more tactical less political/ideological/life stuff.
By the same token people like Demolition Ranch and Honest Outlaw with NO POLITICS whatsoever should concern more people than it actually does. Probably some closet Liberal or nutter or something you will never know about. Most of the 2A community is VERY VOCAL about "it" and stand tall unwavering. Beware of people who pretend to be your friend and endlessly as well as shamelessly ask for donations to animal shelters. I could think of 100+ ways to better spend the money rather than keeping someone's stray or bad disposition and dumped pets alive.
Well, now I don't feel so bad when I shank a shot. 😀 Great video John. 👍
Technical question.
What is the distance to which the iron sights built in on a glock 19(or something similar) are “zeroed” to? What is the distance at which the point of aim is the point of impact on such a gun with standard 9mm ammo? (And shouldn’t there be two such points, considering the ballistic trajectory?)
How do u zero if you are using a laser and a laser bore sighter ?
Will there be a Warrior Poet CR920X? Thanks for the info as well, gonna play this again when I go zero my pistol this weekend.
Almost forgot you were on TH-cam Lol 😂
Good dral brother...
Eyes here also 😮😊