If you want to get into healthy, strength training for free, then seriously check out Trainwell. I got a personal trainer, and it has helped so much! go.trainwell.net/OzTalksHW to get 14-days FREE + $25 off on their 1st month!
As someone who used to hack up Dell optiplexes to make sweet sleepers, I highly recommend you completely empty the pc case before using a dremel or angle grinder. This will make sure there is 0% chance of metal dust or shavings from shorting a component on your motherboard
Was looking for this comment before posting my own. A short might occur and kill your hardware/data. Or worse, burn down your building. It's a small chance but not worth the risk. Even more so if you sell the PC
Xbox Series S is the best budget console ever. 1080p to 1440p 60 FPS for less than 200€ is incredible. I finished Cyberpunk, Elden Ring and Lies of P on it
@@ps3andrhcp I currently have one I tried to play elden ring and Jedi survivor on console and it was terrible I switched to pc to play those games Its not hate it's Being realistic heavy use of upscalers to reach 30 fps Is ridiculous
My favorite random part of this video is at the 2:32 mark when Ozi groans, and that bottom most PCIe bracket randomly pops out LOL. It was just too perfect timing with the annoyance of the card not fitting, those brackets can be super annoying when they pop out of place since they aren't held in by individual screws. Oh the struggles of a "graphics card slapped into an office tower" formula lol
I had to drill out a hard drive cage in my Dell Optiplex just to get a video card in there. The overhead in those machines is really tight; frustratingly so.
This is the first time I'd heard of it working on anything older than a Radeon 6xxx GPU based computer or Nvidia equivilant (2020 or later rig I'd gather). I didn't know there was a hack out there for older UEFI based computers.
It doesn't fit the qualifications of small form factor and low power, but I just built my first "office pc turned gaming pc" ever, and I'm pretty proud of it. For about $250, I ended up with an i7 6700k, RX 580 8gb, 16gb ddr4, 128gb ssd, 1tb hdd, and a new 600w psu to make it run. This was super rewarding and fun to do, and I love channels/videos like this that play with that low budget concept. Keep it up, Oz!
Congrats thats some pretty great value for your dollars, i hope you find the cash for some more ssd some time soon though, as they really do make such a huge difference in the usability of the pc
@@nerd20fromdiscord Definitely! I haven't decided exactly what I'm going to do with it yet because I have a more powerful main pc, but if I keep it around as a second rig then I'll probably stick my old laptop's 500gb m.2 in it for that exact reason.
@@brett_norris i would recommend going to the craft store and finding stuff to put on it to make it look nice (fake wood veneer vinyl wrap looks cool, or something like that) and then selling it as a flip for 280-300, earn some more cash and do another! Or maybe if your feeling generous you could sell it for the upfront value of what you paid for it and make a budget gamer very happy
@@nerd20fromdiscord Love that idea! I am between selling it for $250-$300 or just giving it to either my girlfriend or my friend's girlfriend so they can game with us occasionally. Haven't decided. The nice thing about the Lenovo pc I started with for it is that it actually comes in a pretty unique looking case to begin with, so it doesn't look completely like a boring office pc. Still, I have been considering doing some kind of customization to make it look even cooler.
Modifying a Vbios for a Asus Strix 3080 OC to make Rebar work was one of the most hair raising experiences of my life! So I completely understand all the frustration you went through. Good that you got it working in the end! 👍
The beauty of having a physical eeprom programmer is if it flashes a bad bios it usually doesn't matter if the chip isn't damaged you can flash it with one that works once you have a working one. I bricked a board I kept because it had an nforce chipset that was useful for things newer boards can't do anymore, there were two HP boards one had two less ram slots soldered on and three less audio jacks otherwise the boards were identical even the same audio ic they just had it configured differently in the bios which is where my fiddling with the other boards bios to work on mine because the same board with just more ram slots supported more cpus (for segmenting reasons alone as is the other boards bios funcitoned perfectly aside from the audio jacks being in the wrong order and some not existing) so I was trying to get the other boards bios with edits to configure the audio ic for my boards port layout and it halts after the ram test and goes no farther. I didn't have a programmer to fix it or know about them at the time.. so the board got thrown out :(.
@@MarcoLoves360gamer If you have the same card, the newest VBios from Asus is V5 which works so I think you should be okay. I had attempted the VBios flash when Asus only released V3 which is buggy. I flashed my GB z390 Aorus Master to support Rebar without issues but flashing the Strix to V3 resulted in it not putting out a display on reboot. Thank the Gods that card has dual bios. This allowed me to reboot using the working bios when I flipped the switch. Then I had to 'trick' the graphics card into accepting a modified older bios on the initial bios setting as the newer bios would not install with Asus' program. I had to use a third party install program if I am not mistaken but I got it working in the end. Scary. V5 installs fine though
The $300 version of this with a 3050 6GB would be the MUCH better play for someone actually attempting a build like this. Plug and play pretty much, with the addition of all the Nvidia goodies.
Thats actially the exact route I went for building a secondary pc for running Windows (I wanted to run Linux on my main pc but still needed Windows occasionally and hated rebooting) I went with an HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF, but I don't recommend it because the 3050 intersects the USB 3 header. Getting a right-angle adapter to fit underneath worked, but then it would get this annoying message on boot about the USB header being disconnected because apparently its missing a special HP jumper. Had to solder a small wire to bridge certain pins on the back of the mobo after a ton of TH-cam research 😅 Also the thermals are abysmal, so I added a fan secured by ziptie chains to point it at the GPU lol. Computer is also loud because of the proprietary PSU fan, and cant do much about it. Definitely the most sub-optimal way of making a pc work, and the 300 dollar price tag felt a biiiit overpriced for the performance but it performs steadily and runs all the games I need. I should have just gone with an MT build, I really didn't need the SFF form factor 😅
@@OzTalksHW that’d be great! That + a Mem Upgrade and these could compete at 1440p with the upscaling tech, would likely see a decent uplift in performance and image quality over the S. To me the current sweet spot is a budget 1440p gaming monitor with a ‘1080p’ Nvidia GPU where you can use DLSS Quality/Balanced presets to make up the performance with a much better output and daily usage scenario.
@@Oni_CodmThe Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM. It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197. Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could build a powerful system. Apologies Oni_Codm I didn't mean to cook This much. 😂
Such a great calm builder. The comparison to Bob Ross is quite accurate because he gives such a great vibe of a massive hug while he is talking. They share this ability. It calms down you down as a viewer and makes you feel appreciated. Great vibe. Keep it up.
I still have my series s, i love the ability to revisit og xbox and 360 titles. Playing gears of war at 60fps is amazing. As for bios flashing, i have that same programming chip, its amazing!
The HP Z2 G4 SFF would be a much better option that would have solved some of your issues here. No need to cut anything to fit any LP GPU, has more NVMe m.2 slots, has a better power supply... and it actually has USB3 ports on the rear. It also costs a similar amount of money. There are several auctions on eBay right now for $67, with i5 9500's and 16GB of RAM. As for the GPU, this only confirms what I've been telling people, the BIOS mod is not worth it to run Arc... just be patient and grab a 1650 in an auction for around $100 - $120 instead.
It sucks that the value proposition of arc is destroyed on OEM pcs like this. Also kind of crazy how expensive these low profile cards are, it almost defeats the whole purpose of going with an OEM pc to save money. I love the idea of a low power, low profile machine, but it sucks that the price to performance is so bad on them. Love your reccomendation of the Z2 G4 though, it's crazy that we can get a 9th gen i5 for so cheap.
@@spoobspoob2270 Absolutely. I don't know why that decision was made, or if they didn't have an option, but they really lost a good portion of the market that would have loved a less expensive option... the OEM gaming PC crowd. It's such a missed opportunity. As for LP cards, I get why they're so expensive... it's just a super niche market. As such, they are just very low production, and thus they tend to be more expensive. I was very surprised that the 4060 LP was the same price as the full height cards. Granted, the 4060 was over priced to begin with. I really do like the Z2 series. I have a G4 SFF as one of my personal systems and I do like the OEM SFF systems, despite the cost involved. They also have a tower system, which uses the same board, but has room for just about any GPU and comes with a 500 watt or a 650 watt power supply. I really do think people are sleeping on these. I've been buying them and flipping them as gaming PC's and they're a hell of a deal.
@@TheGameBench wow, that power supply is a hell of a steal for the Z2, you could get something like an rx580 and still be fine on wattage! I've always thought that the 580 was a no-go on OEM systems since they never include a good enough PSU, which was a shame since it's 1060 levels of performance for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price. It's so fun to flip these PCs and configure them, it's satisfying to give people proper performing hardware for cheap instead of whatever crap is being sold on Amazon with anemic specs XD
@@spoobspoob2270 I mean... the 500 watt has an 8-pin and a 6-pin. I've been tossing RTX 3060 12GB in them. All in, they're costing me $400 to $500 to put together with an i7 8700, 32GB of RAM a 1TB NVMe drive and a 1TB HDD. The 500 watt PSU would def be good for more that a 180 watt GPU. Just got one with a i7 9700K and the 650 watt PSU. Thinking I'll throw a 3080 in it.
We are so happy that Dante was able to create a plan that you love and has helped your back pain go away! Hopefully all the training translates into faster thumbs on your new 'xbox' 😆Thanks for sharing your fitness journey with trainwell so far!
Just came across this channel, and I love the Vox-esque format. The jazz, the subtle sound effects, and on screen diagrams really make this video entertaining. Good stuff, Mr. Oz!
@@leviathan5207Completely agree. That gets ignored pretty much every time someone does this or discusses console vs PC, but it _has_ to be included in the cost, otherwise you’re being disingenuous.
Thanks for going through the resizable bar fix. I was not aware of this, and seeing you fix the issues that came up as part of it all the way to a working state is very helpful. Loved this video.
I still don't understand how there are so many clean refurbished compuers, yes spelled right... compuers available. Everytime I've bought a refurbished computer it has problems even after refurbishment. Your channel is awesome. I love your lectures and demos. Thank you for producing, taping, editing and sharing. Great channel.
Love how you're taking care of your health and bringing awareness of it to others, back pain is the main issue from sit down jobs, even with a 1500 dollar herman miller if u sit all day you WILL get back pain from not having activity.
You can use the keyboard, mouse and browser to do SNS, shopping, watching videos, and you can also use the browser version of Word and PowerPoint. If you don't do deep creative work such as 3D design, composing, or complex video editing, I recommend the Xbox.
Watching the video is just amazing. I mean, I love his voice, is so calming, so soothing. The vibe is amazing and the content is awesome. Incredible job 👏👏👏
One thing that's worth mentioning is that the XSS is not actually a £200 console given that it's sold at a loss. So the hardware budget could be more if you were going to sell it or something. That being said well done.
I'm happy to know that trainwell has helped you with those physical problems, you are really an example to follow, I love your videos and your dedication to them.
My wife got really bad lumbago from sneezing in a bad position because of her job (she's a pastry chef so she spends a lot of time bending over the cakes she decorates). Oddest thing I've seen. Good on you for getting a sponsor partner that promotes wellness. Shoutout Dante.
During covid the series s was a godsend, the series x was pretty invincible too, bc u can emulate on it, not sure about now, but during covid it was TOUGH.. The series x was extremely good budget for the time being
I have the same model but just using a g5400, but I'll follow what you did as I'm gonna be using it for school, for some 3D and Mostly Adobe. Thanks for this Oz!
For my series s killer build i bought a 3050 6gb low profile. It's only $170-180. Get a an older sff and slap this in. It should total you $250 or so but it is worth it. A380 is not bad its just if bios have no Rebar than it will limit performance.
Watching how the ps5 pro has gone down, the Series S has been the standout release of this console Gen, I love my PC but being able to take series S anywhere and play all modern games on it is such a great benefit for the price I got it for, $150
The Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM. It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197. Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could easily build a powerful system.
Man as a brand new PC TH-camr, I would love to do a build off with you on paper and maybe one day in person but I am pretty sure for $250 or the $299 that the series S cost I could build a much better small form factor
7:30 always wondered if Acer or if any OEM would let consumers edit small things in a BIOs like xmp mode for ram. Learning to build PCs has been freeing
That model I believe can also have a handle drilled to the top if the battery is on the bottom I did this to mine and I'm able to comfortably pick it up and bring it to friends houses. The hardware upgrades I did was a 4060 for the GPU in a sound card x-fi forte with a pcie extension cable for some odd reason Lenovo decided not to add an extra pcie slot on the bottom so I tucked the pcie extension cable underneath the video card and routed it to the spot where one would be. I also had to make room for that by cutting and using metal snips to cut out of the cage that folds over in that unit. But because of having a GPU in that area I wanted more airflow so I ended up using a Dremel with a cutting blade on it like your friend did in the video and cut out a window on the side panel and used decorative metal sheets from home Depot that had Vents you can duct tape the vents to the panel or use some J-B weld.
This would be a fun learning experience. Besides that the xbox series S console is optimized for xbox gaming and it is not cost efficient to build a PC equivalent of it. I remembered back in the late 90s gamers were spending $1000+ to build systems to play PS1 games when you can get a PS1 for about $50. In this case you could get another Series S console for $100 or less.
amazing video expecially the part where u explain that there is a program for resizable bar for motherboard that doesnt have it, i needed it so bad and i didnt know that this program exists XD thanks
I remember when those Intel graphics cards came out they were too much at the time for such low performance, but I could totally see it being reasonable in a older computer at a hundred bucks. Sometimes it just doesn't make sense how all of those things can go together and be equivalent to an Xbox... But I'm glad you did it and it gives me confidence in doing it myself
I am having a hard time following what you say because I cannot get over how likeable you are sir. The voice, the grey hair, those kind eyes.... ...What kind of sorcery is this?! Maybe do some pc asmr?
I've been through most of these steps with different systems. At first I was yelling along about ReBar and how OEM systems have pretty much guaranteed BIOS locks in place (checksums) to avoid even booting hardware flashed BIOSes. Until the very end I was yelling "that won't work" at every step. I'm surprised Lenovo doesn't lock via checksum. For HP and Dell, I can almost guarantee they won't boot with a hardware flashed BIOS because it expects a certain checksum. It'll just give you a beautiful series of beeps.
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how come tha comment was posted 25mmin ago yest the video has only been out for 2 min
I bet Spelunky HD and every emulator would run in this computer (abomination b/c nothing fits)... lol. I'm serious about the games it could play.
What the... $25 off first month? Means it costs more than $25 a month? Thats crazy apps like this are free in play store
Thin snips make every GPU fit 100% did this set up with an A4000.
@@samiboukhalfa9040 simulation
You should change your yt channel to "Bob Ross PC building" or "The Joy of PC building"
*grows fro
Just a little ram here and there ah..yes
@@roc6d :D
😆 Rob Hoss
Facts bros been all soothing in his tone and everything ever since before i started following like 5 yrs ago!
@@soonerswillwinfulFr dude. :)
As someone who used to hack up Dell optiplexes to make sweet sleepers, I highly recommend you completely empty the pc case before using a dremel or angle grinder.
This will make sure there is 0% chance of metal dust or shavings from shorting a component on your motherboard
Was looking for this comment before posting my own. A short might occur and kill your hardware/data. Or worse, burn down your building. It's a small chance but not worth the risk. Even more so if you sell the PC
Xbox Series S is the best budget console ever. 1080p to 1440p 60 FPS for less than 200€ is incredible. I finished Cyberpunk, Elden Ring and Lies of P on it
what games does run at 60 fps and 1080 natively none all game are at 30 fps 480p
@@bernavazquez8405 braainrot
@bernavazquez8405 plenty of them lmao 480p. Nah the console is pretty damn crazy for the price and size. Literally hating for no reason.
For the pricing it’s pretty damn good. Too bad sony fucked up bad with their new ps5 pro with the pricing
@@ps3andrhcp I currently have one I tried to play elden ring and Jedi survivor on console and it was terrible I switched to pc to play those games Its not hate it's Being realistic heavy use of upscalers to reach 30 fps Is ridiculous
My favorite random part of this video is at the 2:32 mark when Ozi groans, and that bottom most PCIe bracket randomly pops out LOL. It was just too perfect timing with the annoyance of the card not fitting, those brackets can be super annoying when they pop out of place since they aren't held in by individual screws. Oh the struggles of a "graphics card slapped into an office tower" formula lol
I had to drill out a hard drive cage in my Dell Optiplex just to get a video card in there. The overhead in those machines is really tight; frustratingly so.
There’s always more issues than you bargain for with office PCs sometimes 😭
This is the first time I've heard of Resizable Bar. Thanks
This is the first time I'd heard of it working on anything older than a Radeon 6xxx GPU based computer or Nvidia equivilant (2020 or later rig I'd gather). I didn't know there was a hack out there for older UEFI based computers.
Love the calmness of your videos man, always able to just relax and watch the latest one.
It doesn't fit the qualifications of small form factor and low power, but I just built my first "office pc turned gaming pc" ever, and I'm pretty proud of it.
For about $250, I ended up with an i7 6700k, RX 580 8gb, 16gb ddr4, 128gb ssd, 1tb hdd, and a new 600w psu to make it run. This was super rewarding and fun to do, and I love channels/videos like this that play with that low budget concept. Keep it up, Oz!
Congrats thats some pretty great value for your dollars, i hope you find the cash for some more ssd some time soon though, as they really do make such a huge difference in the usability of the pc
@@nerd20fromdiscord Definitely! I haven't decided exactly what I'm going to do with it yet because I have a more powerful main pc, but if I keep it around as a second rig then I'll probably stick my old laptop's 500gb m.2 in it for that exact reason.
@@brett_norris i would recommend going to the craft store and finding stuff to put on it to make it look nice (fake wood veneer vinyl wrap looks cool, or something like that) and then selling it as a flip for 280-300, earn some more cash and do another! Or maybe if your feeling generous you could sell it for the upfront value of what you paid for it and make a budget gamer very happy
@@nerd20fromdiscord Love that idea! I am between selling it for $250-$300 or just giving it to either my girlfriend or my friend's girlfriend so they can game with us occasionally. Haven't decided. The nice thing about the Lenovo pc I started with for it is that it actually comes in a pretty unique looking case to begin with, so it doesn't look completely like a boring office pc. Still, I have been considering doing some kind of customization to make it look even cooler.
@@brett_norris awesome, i hope you have fun with it! Good luck 👍
I need to see a PS5 Pro version. Can we get close to that crazy retail price with same performance in a small form factor PC?
The lower price margin would be so easy since Sony is trying to bend their customers over so hard with the price of the pro.
You shouldn't have trouble beating the price of a PS5, at least.
Probably not tbh. Give it a couple years and yeah for sure.
@@ps3andrhcp700$? You’re kidding right? That’s an easy 6700 XT / 6750 / 6800 build with the beautiful Ryzen 5 5600.
Even better if you go used…
would cook easily at 700$
Modifying a Vbios for a Asus Strix 3080 OC to make Rebar work was one of the most hair raising experiences of my life! So I completely understand all the frustration you went through. Good that you got it working in the end! 👍
The beauty of having a physical eeprom programmer is if it flashes a bad bios it usually doesn't matter if the chip isn't damaged you can flash it with one that works once you have a working one. I bricked a board I kept because it had an nforce chipset that was useful for things newer boards can't do anymore, there were two HP boards one had two less ram slots soldered on and three less audio jacks otherwise the boards were identical even the same audio ic they just had it configured differently in the bios which is where my fiddling with the other boards bios to work on mine because the same board with just more ram slots supported more cpus (for segmenting reasons alone as is the other boards bios funcitoned perfectly aside from the audio jacks being in the wrong order and some not existing) so I was trying to get the other boards bios with edits to configure the audio ic for my boards port layout and it halts after the ram test and goes no farther. I didn't have a programmer to fix it or know about them at the time.. so the board got thrown out :(.
I just came across this a few days ago, should i flash my 3080? Not sure if it's worth the brick
@@MarcoLoves360gamer If you have the same card, the newest VBios from Asus is V5 which works so I think you should be okay. I had attempted the VBios flash when Asus only released V3 which is buggy. I flashed my GB z390 Aorus Master to support Rebar without issues but flashing the Strix to V3 resulted in it not putting out a display on reboot. Thank the Gods that card has dual bios. This allowed me to reboot using the working bios when I flipped the switch. Then I had to 'trick' the graphics card into accepting a modified older bios on the initial bios setting as the newer bios would not install with Asus' program. I had to use a third party install program if I am not mistaken but I got it working in the end. Scary. V5 installs fine though
The $300 version of this with a 3050 6GB would be the MUCH better play for someone actually attempting a build like this. Plug and play pretty much, with the addition of all the Nvidia goodies.
Thats actially the exact route I went for building a secondary pc for running Windows (I wanted to run Linux on my main pc but still needed Windows occasionally and hated rebooting)
I went with an HP EliteDesk 800 G2 SFF, but I don't recommend it because the 3050 intersects the USB 3 header. Getting a right-angle adapter to fit underneath worked, but then it would get this annoying message on boot about the USB header being disconnected because apparently its missing a special HP jumper. Had to solder a small wire to bridge certain pins on the back of the mobo after a ton of TH-cam research 😅
Also the thermals are abysmal, so I added a fan secured by ziptie chains to point it at the GPU lol. Computer is also loud because of the proprietary PSU fan, and cant do much about it. Definitely the most sub-optimal way of making a pc work, and the 300 dollar price tag felt a biiiit overpriced for the performance but it performs steadily and runs all the games I need.
I should have just gone with an MT build, I really didn't need the SFF form factor 😅
3050 8g
I still have my 3050 - this is a great idea! I think I'll add it in the next update :)
@@OzTalksHW that’d be great! That + a Mem Upgrade and these could compete at 1440p with the upscaling tech, would likely see a decent uplift in performance and image quality over the S. To me the current sweet spot is a budget 1440p gaming monitor with a ‘1080p’ Nvidia GPU where you can use DLSS Quality/Balanced presets to make up the performance with a much better output and daily usage scenario.
DLSS 3 is a game changer
9:08 " Yeah we did it Joe, we did it.." My name is Joe and it felt really awkward watching and hearing that lmao😂
Man, just a STELLAR break down of each problem, the solution, the problem the solution created, and the inevitable solution to that. Well done!
Thanks so much! That means so much. I'm working on my story telling more.
you can always change the power supply if you get an adapter also but i think it takes the front ports out
The series s is $300 broski, you still had $100 left in the budget 🔥
It’s $200 used $250 new
@@Oni_CodmThe Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM.
It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197.
Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could build a powerful system.
Apologies Oni_Codm I didn't mean to cook This much. 😂
Looking forward to the results and well done on persevering with the bios 💪🏼
Never thought I'd see you here.
Intel Arc deserves to get loved
No
@@bababsdik you at least could give them a try then
Yes!
Such a great calm builder. The comparison to Bob Ross is quite accurate because he gives such a great vibe of a massive hug while he is talking. They share this ability.
It calms down you down as a viewer and makes you feel appreciated.
Great vibe. Keep it up.
The Series S is a dope machine for casual play, I have it hooked up in the bedroom. It's also an emulation beast.
I still have my series s, i love the ability to revisit og xbox and 360 titles. Playing gears of war at 60fps is amazing. As for bios flashing, i have that same programming chip, its amazing!
The HP Z2 G4 SFF would be a much better option that would have solved some of your issues here. No need to cut anything to fit any LP GPU, has more NVMe m.2 slots, has a better power supply... and it actually has USB3 ports on the rear. It also costs a similar amount of money. There are several auctions on eBay right now for $67, with i5 9500's and 16GB of RAM. As for the GPU, this only confirms what I've been telling people, the BIOS mod is not worth it to run Arc... just be patient and grab a 1650 in an auction for around $100 - $120 instead.
It sucks that the value proposition of arc is destroyed on OEM pcs like this. Also kind of crazy how expensive these low profile cards are, it almost defeats the whole purpose of going with an OEM pc to save money. I love the idea of a low power, low profile machine, but it sucks that the price to performance is so bad on them. Love your reccomendation of the Z2 G4 though, it's crazy that we can get a 9th gen i5 for so cheap.
@@spoobspoob2270 Absolutely. I don't know why that decision was made, or if they didn't have an option, but they really lost a good portion of the market that would have loved a less expensive option... the OEM gaming PC crowd. It's such a missed opportunity. As for LP cards, I get why they're so expensive... it's just a super niche market. As such, they are just very low production, and thus they tend to be more expensive. I was very surprised that the 4060 LP was the same price as the full height cards. Granted, the 4060 was over priced to begin with.
I really do like the Z2 series. I have a G4 SFF as one of my personal systems and I do like the OEM SFF systems, despite the cost involved. They also have a tower system, which uses the same board, but has room for just about any GPU and comes with a 500 watt or a 650 watt power supply. I really do think people are sleeping on these. I've been buying them and flipping them as gaming PC's and they're a hell of a deal.
@@TheGameBench wow, that power supply is a hell of a steal for the Z2, you could get something like an rx580 and still be fine on wattage! I've always thought that the 580 was a no-go on OEM systems since they never include a good enough PSU, which was a shame since it's 1060 levels of performance for about 1/2 to 2/3 the price.
It's so fun to flip these PCs and configure them, it's satisfying to give people proper performing hardware for cheap instead of whatever crap is being sold on Amazon with anemic specs XD
@@spoobspoob2270 I mean... the 500 watt has an 8-pin and a 6-pin. I've been tossing RTX 3060 12GB in them. All in, they're costing me $400 to $500 to put together with an i7 8700, 32GB of RAM a 1TB NVMe drive and a 1TB HDD. The 500 watt PSU would def be good for more that a 180 watt GPU. Just got one with a i7 9700K and the 650 watt PSU. Thinking I'll throw a 3080 in it.
@@TheGameBench you're right haha, I didn't even think about that 🤣
That's actually a killer system for the money!
We are so happy that Dante was able to create a plan that you love and has helped your back pain go away! Hopefully all the training translates into faster thumbs on your new 'xbox' 😆Thanks for sharing your fitness journey with trainwell so far!
Just came across this channel, and I love the Vox-esque format. The jazz, the subtle sound effects, and on screen diagrams really make this video entertaining. Good stuff, Mr. Oz!
PS5 pro just gave you a slam dunk video Oz, should be pretty easy to cook with such an inflated price. Love the vids and your tinkering, keep it up!
What can you build for PS5 Pro money, Oz? Probably any PC you want 😂
Not quite any PC you want, but you can build a really nice AM4 system
@@drewdane40or even 7500f am5 build
@@arinkarwan5888 I just finished a A620 / 7500f / 4060 build, and even with some pretty good deals I came in at around $850
That is cheaper than a PS5 pro!
People forget that you need to pay for online subscription with consoles, whcih should be included in the calculation.
@@leviathan5207Completely agree. That gets ignored pretty much every time someone does this or discusses console vs PC, but it _has_ to be included in the cost, otherwise you’re being disingenuous.
As a hopeful up and coming techie. Watching your videos are super fun and I learn something new in every video.
Thank you Oz
Your voice is so calming,its so so good to just listen to.
Been playing around with computers since 2007 but this is the first time ive heard about Rebar and the fps gainz. Subbed.
I wasn't expecting this. Very interesting.
Love these SFF workstations. So much more useful and versatile than a console.
That's a good video. learning stuff is what I want!!
I'm a console gamer since childhood and dont even have a pc (yet) . But i enjoy this man's passion building PCs.
Might build a pc in the future haha
Not the banana for scale 😅
Always 😁
I love your work man, I really enjoyed this video and I'm looking forward to seeing the comparison between this pc and the Series S.
Thanks!
Holy shit he can just do a hand stand. Been trying to get back at my health too Oz. Keep up the good work
Thanks for going through the resizable bar fix. I was not aware of this, and seeing you fix the issues that came up as part of it all the way to a working state is very helpful. Loved this video.
Thanks for showcasing the issues with the bios flashing, it's so satisfying to see it finally working!
I still don't understand how there are so many clean refurbished compuers, yes spelled right... compuers available. Everytime I've bought a refurbished computer it has problems even after refurbishment. Your channel is awesome. I love your lectures and demos. Thank you for producing, taping, editing and sharing. Great channel.
A lot of times refurbish just means a wipedown and maybe some minor hardware changes
Well done sir nothing gives me the willies more than bios flashing
Love this channel!
Love how you're taking care of your health and bringing awareness of it to others, back pain is the main issue from sit down jobs, even with a 1500 dollar herman miller if u sit all day you WILL get back pain from not having activity.
thanks to this video, i enable rebar for my rx 5700, because i didnt know my b460m motherboard had that feature, very thanks!!
You can use the keyboard, mouse and browser to do SNS, shopping, watching videos, and you can also use the browser version of Word and PowerPoint. If you don't do deep creative work such as 3D design, composing, or complex video editing, I recommend the Xbox.
well done !!
I have down some crazy things with computers in my time... but flashing an hacked bios... wow !!
Thanks God, you had an happy ending !!
Sony: Buy our new PS5 Pro for $700!
Oz: build an Xbox for $200
Perfect video rn
I was gonna build a PC but now I am just gonna do this with low profile GPU preferably 3050
This is a great TH-cam channel and i hope it grows into something big
This channel is amazing, subscribed
Watching the video is just amazing. I mean, I love his voice, is so calming, so soothing. The vibe is amazing and the content is awesome. Incredible job 👏👏👏
idea that popped in my head, installing chimeraOs on the pc would make it (software wise) even more like an equivalent of a console. Great video ^^
Major props for all the work you did to flash that BIOS.
office pc always saving the day...
Call me crazy I love the boxy functional and borderline steampunk aesthetic of a cheap office pc.
I just love it.
Man deserves a medal for the hell he put himself through for this video 😂
One thing that's worth mentioning is that the XSS is not actually a £200 console given that it's sold at a loss. So the hardware budget could be more if you were going to sell it or something.
That being said well done.
Also, Microsoft has the benefit of buying in massive bulk. So for parts they are paying a lot less than than the average consumer
I'm happy to know that trainwell has helped you with those physical problems, you are really an example to follow, I love your videos and your dedication to them.
Glad you decided to upgrade your body young pup! I look forward to seeing you for many years 😊
Dude you've got a $1m voice there, so soothing!
Next, can you add more V-Ram to my AMD RX 6750 to 16mb and 256 bits bus for 50 dollars. We need people like you.
The light is back in your eyes too! Good job getting in better shape!
It's a good thing you don't charge hourly for these videos lol. As always, we surely appreciate ya, great video Oz!
My wife got really bad lumbago from sneezing in a bad position because of her job (she's a pastry chef so she spends a lot of time bending over the cakes she decorates). Oddest thing I've seen. Good on you for getting a sponsor partner that promotes wellness. Shoutout Dante.
With the a380 that desktop is a sick Jellyfin server
Awesome video, always enjoy seeing you do these projects!
During covid the series s was a godsend, the series x was pretty invincible too, bc u can emulate on it, not sure about now, but during covid it was TOUGH.. The series x was extremely good budget for the time being
I have the same model but just using a g5400, but I'll follow what you did as I'm gonna be using it for school, for some 3D and Mostly Adobe.
Thanks for this Oz!
Awesome video Ozi
love the vids man keep it up forever PLEASE
Good job for the BIOS work! That programmer will come in handy when it comes to fixing bricked motherboards or video cards.
You are a legend my friend
For my series s killer build i bought a 3050 6gb low profile. It's only $170-180. Get a an older sff and slap this in. It should total you $250 or so but it is worth it. A380 is not bad its just if bios have no Rebar than it will limit performance.
Watching how the ps5 pro has gone down, the Series S has been the standout release of this console Gen, I love my PC but being able to take series S anywhere and play all modern games on it is such a great benefit for the price I got it for, $150
In India a Series S console costs over 500$+
And Ps5 for $750
You little hacker you 😁 I didn't know you could enable rebar on supposedly non-rebar gen systems. Great video!!
your mic and voice is so good its like the perfect asmr
keep it up man
Oz Ross back at it again
Gj man... amazing video.. lifetime sub earned right there
Awesome channel and content!
You already have a disk drive, instant bonus for the pc
So rad. Keep it up.
The Xbox Series X 512GB model is officially priced at $299.99 on the Xbox website and $298.99 at Walmart. Therefore, Acearty23 is correct; with an additional $100, one could opt for a better GPU and CPU or a better GPU or CPU and more RAM.
It's not as complicated as the video suggests; the complexity was likely added for entertainment. This is a solid option for $197.
Edit: He had an even larger budget. The Xbox Series S 1TB Carbon Black or the (Robot White releasing on October 15, 2024) is priced at $349.99. With that amount, you could easily build a powerful system.
Man as a brand new PC TH-camr, I would love to do a build off with you on paper and maybe one day in person but I am pretty sure for $250 or the $299 that the series S cost I could build a much better small form factor
7:30 always wondered if Acer or if any OEM would let consumers edit small things in a BIOs like xmp mode for ram. Learning to build PCs has been freeing
That model I believe can also have a handle drilled to the top if the battery is on the bottom I did this to mine and I'm able to comfortably pick it up and bring it to friends houses. The hardware upgrades I did was a 4060 for the GPU in a sound card x-fi forte with a pcie extension cable for some odd reason Lenovo decided not to add an extra pcie slot on the bottom so I tucked the pcie extension cable underneath the video card and routed it to the spot where one would be. I also had to make room for that by cutting and using metal snips to cut out of the cage that folds over in that unit. But because of having a GPU in that area I wanted more airflow so I ended up using a Dremel with a cutting blade on it like your friend did in the video and cut out a window on the side panel and used decorative metal sheets from home Depot that had Vents you can duct tape the vents to the panel or use some J-B weld.
This would be a fun learning experience. Besides that the xbox series S console is optimized for xbox gaming and it is not cost efficient to build a PC equivalent of it.
I remembered back in the late 90s gamers were spending $1000+ to build systems to play PS1 games when you can get a PS1 for about $50. In this case you could get another Series S console for $100 or less.
Amazing work 👏
Amazing video as always!
amazing video expecially the part where u explain that there is a program for resizable bar for motherboard that doesnt have it, i needed it so bad and i didnt know that this program exists XD thanks
Imagine being this rich, creative, and smart?
Thank you Doc 🙌
Good job man👍🏽
The Thumbs up with sound effect made the video for me. Please do more of that in future videos :)
underrated channel
great vid but woulda love to have seen some benchmarks
I remember when those Intel graphics cards came out they were too much at the time for such low performance, but I could totally see it being reasonable in a older computer at a hundred bucks.
Sometimes it just doesn't make sense how all of those things can go together and be equivalent to an Xbox... But I'm glad you did it and it gives me confidence in doing it myself
amazing video bro
Have you thought about turning it into a Steam Machine? I'd love to see that.
underrated video.
Bro this was quality content! I've wondered if anyone found a workaround for Re-bar. Thanks for going the extra mile on this one 😁
I am having a hard time following what you say because I cannot get over how likeable you are sir.
The voice, the grey hair, those kind eyes....
...What kind of sorcery is this?!
Maybe do some pc asmr?
Xbox Series S is 200$ meanwhile Ps 5 Pro absurd 700$ price tag is insane
I've been through most of these steps with different systems. At first I was yelling along about ReBar and how OEM systems have pretty much guaranteed BIOS locks in place (checksums) to avoid even booting hardware flashed BIOSes. Until the very end I was yelling "that won't work" at every step.
I'm surprised Lenovo doesn't lock via checksum. For HP and Dell, I can almost guarantee they won't boot with a hardware flashed BIOS because it expects a certain checksum. It'll just give you a beautiful series of beeps.