Hi there, I had to replace a gate and followed your guide exactly. It was easy and in one day, I now have a wonderful functioning double gate. Thank you for posting this and making the instructions clear and easy to follow!
nice work!! I am a picky contractor with over 20 years experience hanging gates and fence.. well done !!!! so much bad info on youtube thank god this guy nailed it!!!!
Thanks for this video. I had a poorly constructed gate in our back yard that I replaced after watching. Couldn’t be any happier. It is much stronger and much lighter. Thanks again
Dude ive been puttinf off replacing my termites gate made of 2x3s for years. Termites have it to dangling pieces. This is so much easier than metal. Cant wait to get some kilm dried 2x4s and make a frame and paint or stain it.
Really Great! I just lack the tools to do the first cuts into each end . i was hoping for the simplest ever. maybe i can make it work, Handymen are not cheap!
thanks for the video. I'd be interested in seeing close-ups of how you handled around the post. Especially where boards are placed, both on front and side of the post and the gate right against the post.
Thanks...just mirrors my own simple way of doing things. The pocket jigs are GREAT for joining wood. Will watch more of your videos...woodworking should be fun and not technical beyond the majority of us. This was fun, I did exactly like you did and it turned out great.
Awesome! Yeah, I bought mine used and rehung them and adapted them to my opening. At the time I did not have a credit card. Got one now so I will be building a new gate the right way.
The lock was flipped on this gate so you couldn’t access any screws on the latch and you throw a lock on it so it couldn’t be opened if desired. I’m about to publish a new video with more details.👍
A 90 degree angle will not hold the weight of the fence like a 45 degree angle braced from the bottom of the hinge side to the top of the outside of the frame. Think of it this way... try holding the hood of your car open with your arms extended straight out... then lift the hood of your car up and prop it up with your arm at a 45 degree angle. Which one was easier to hold the weight of the hood? Sorry, but that's the best analogy I have for that question. : )
Yall and your outdoor half lap joints. Lemme know if you get any more longevity than a mitre joint with some deck nails. Would love to see it work better, but u have my doubts considering wood movement with crossing grains out in the elements. In ND, you'd see cracks the first year with outdoor crossing grains. Just a guess though. Excellent videos.
Love what you did, you built a light, yet sturdy frame. Buy NOT using heavy metal frames, you have taken a huge load of the posts, which is where gates often fail. I would recommend a long flange hinge that attaches to each rail. Connecting the rail directly to the post with a long flange gate hinge is critical. I always do this, and I have large gates that still operate after 20 years. The biggest issue with gates, is no matter how well, and light you build them, they will cause posts to lean, and therefore your posts need to be deeper, thicker, or other wise reinforced.
Yes! I’m actually going to update my hinges soon. I used what I had, but you’re right, bigger/longer hinges would be ideal! The hinges are actually too close to the edge of my 6x6 post and because of the post’s age, it can cause them to split if too near the edge.
Hi i m about to do my gate. Is only 10 feet. Wide. Tnks for the advice I dont have a table saw. I can do it with a skillsaw plus chisel i guess Ur advice is great Wish i could put pics and maybe i ll do a video a and upload on my channel ......tnk u. I start and work with real carpenters from N Carolina i think they are the best also from Ohio...tnk u. Miss my dad he was the best carpenter he built our humble home in Guatemala in the 70 s but our best carpenter is Jesus A en be bless nice home
I really liked the way you notched out the frame. it adds so much more support. I've also been looking to this with fence posts. yes you heard me right. but the only problem with that, is it's too time consuming and I cant charge my customers that much. no offense, but what I mean by that, is this took you like 3 days to this double gate. I LOVE the idea, but most people are not gonna want to pay for that labor. Very good idea tho
JR Stags Thanks! It really would only take two days (if you want the glue to set before installing). I hear you though! Not really feasible for someone doing it for a living unless they want to charge a ton. Where would you notch out the posts? Where the hinges go?
@@rutterrealtygc I meant like on the fence part, not the gate. like when you build a whole fence instead of toe nailing the runners to the studs, notch em out. Kinda like you would do a deck or pergola
The rectangle frames were comprised of 8 - 2x4x8s and the cross support pieces were 2x4x8s as well. So, 10 total for the frame. 30 pickets. 5lb box of 1 1/2” exterior screws for pickets and frame assembly. Wood glue. Hinges. Lag bolts for hinges and latch.
All boards for the frame were 2x4s. I wanted to keep it as light as possible, so I didn't use 2x6s. It might have more strength with 2x6, but it is going to be heavier for sure.
My husband is going to do this too. But he wants to lock the gate with a key is there anything you recommend for my hubby to do so he is able to lock the gate from the outside?
Great video. I just subbed. I didn’t have a problem with the music. I thought the track and levels were good, however, if you take people’s suggestions and get rid of the music, I’m a huge fan of that sped up sound of hammers and drills and stuff. Maybe That makes me a ASMR fan, idk. Either way, keep up the great work!
Probably the best thing to do would be to lay a 2x4 underneath the gate where the boards will rest so they’ll have some clearance. I actually just used my foot as the spacer, but a straight 2x4 will achieve a better look for sure.😁
Hi Ryan, Great Video. I was wondering why the bracing has to touch both the sides in the corner? Does it have to be always less than 45 deg with plumb?
I put it against both sides in the corner so it would have more surface area to be firmly planted against without moving. I’m not sure I know what you’re asking with your second question.😬
Great question! I personally haven't added an extra two feet, but it should bear the weight, because I've stood on my gates (where they meet) to undo my latch on the other side and it still held my weight fine. Something to consider is having larger posts (6x6 or larger) to support the weight of your gates, so they don't lean with the weight of your gates.
We are about to redo another double gate and will make a more detailed video with those steps included. 👍 Sorry, I don’t have one currently. What’s your questions though? I might be able to answer it.👍
Thank's! Now i can complete my project. I was worried about the sagging. Love the way you fence your property over there. Over here in Sweden, you need a building permit if it's a certain hight, like yours.
Thanks for the comment! If I had to add a note, the posts should be 6x6 instead of 4x4's. Otherwise, the posts themselves can move, causing the gate to scrape the ground.
20ft is a pretty large span. I’m using 2x4s for the framing. I’m sure it will work, but it probably won’t last as long as the wood weakens over time. Definitely want some beefy 8x8 or larger posts.
surely a mortise and tenon would have been a better choice of joint? peg it too so no need for screws? just a thought but thanks for taking the time to upload
Both suggestions would be a good choice. There’s always more than one way to do wood work (some better and even stronger than others). Most of my videos cater to the “average Joe” using minimal effort, time, and tools with great results. At the end of the day, the gate is strong, doesn’t sag, and holds my weight when I stand on it without sagging. That’s the goal, but I’m sure your suggestions would surely achieve the same results!👍😊 Thanks for the suggestions!
Would you recommend 6x6” posts when installing a gate that size? I have a neighbor that had someone replace his double gate. They used 2x3” non treated boards and a Z brace on the wrong side. Completely destroyed now and he was wanted me to replace it for him. Also and idea of what I should be charging him if he buys all the material. I’m not a licensed contractor but I Do my research and take pride in my work. I don’t want to overcharge him but it also is a lot of labor. Great video by the way👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the feedback. New construction charges $500 for a double gate, so subtract the materials and there you go. Keep in mind that a contractor isn’t going to take the time to build your gate like this though. The number that came to my mind was $200-$250. I’d recommend 6x6 minimum! Maybe even 8x8. Make sure the posts are secure in the ground with cement or after you add the weight of the gates the posts can move! Best of luck to you and your project!😊👍
Absolutely use 6"×6" posts. I wouldn't hesitate to let the posts set in concrete for 24 - 48 hours before adding the weight of the gate. Especially for a gate with 5' leafs or bigger. If you are removing the existing posts, I would add $50 per post. These can be a pain in the butt because the existing concrete must be removed if you are going back in the same place. Good luck!
Wow that's an awesome job. I subscribed to see what else you are going to come up with. This is perfect for me. My span is going to be 17 ft. I am using two sections of 8 foot wide left over from my privacy fence cut in half horizontally to 36". adjusted to block the entrance to my driveway. It will be very heavy , but the post's are well seated into the ground. What Hardware would you recommend for opening and closing the gate 180 degrees. I would like Wheels because the driveway is concrete all the way across 60 ft L x18 ft.w. I look forward to doing this since I come from a builder family I'm sure I can handle it. I have every tool under the sun , but it's been a while since I made a heavy piece of furniture; soooo any words of wisdom? You made that so professionally. Thank you in advance. Sorry for such a long message
Hey "Sugar Free" and thank you for the comment. 17ft is a very large span. Someone previously asked about building an 18ft span and whether to use 2x4's or 2x6's and I responded, " I honestly couldn’t tell you what would be best. My first thought is that, although the 2x6 seems like the strong option, it’s also going to add additional weight on your joints. If it were me, I’d be very picky with my 2x6’s, finding ones that are lighter in weight than the other treated lumber that are still saturated from being treated. I’d honestly be inclined to get a quote for what it would cost to make the framework out of metal with that size or maybe even contact an friend who’s an engineer for their thoughts. Sorry that isn’t really much help. Anybody else have any input?" If you are going to be placing wheels on the gate(s), then the extra length won't matter as much because you are going to have the end of the gate supported by the wheels on the ground as well. As far as hinges are concerned, I would look for a longer hinge that will extend from the post, far out on the gate (supporting the weight of the gate as far out as possible). I hope that helps!
@@rutterrealtygc thank you Ryan. That is an awesome answer the posts are already in the ground ; those are 4x4s of pressure-treated lumber . I'm just looking for input On hinges and Hardware. I appreciate what you said because you actually said what I was thinking. That was the nicest longest message I've ever received and I apologize. I enjoyed watching your video so much I've shared it and watched it again .
@Sugar Free Thanks Sugar Free. I will note, if you are putting that large of a fence you definitely want to use larger than 4x4 posts or you can put two 4x4 posts together (as I've seen some do). However, I feel like a larger 6x6 post or 8x8 post would be more sufficient for your application. We are using 6x6 posts and honestly we should have replaced them before the gates were hung because they are dried out from when they were installed and starting to split because the hinges are two close to the outside of the post (hand to face emoji inserted here). Find hinges that will rest near the center of the post when installed, because of the for-mentioned problem. Best of luck to your projects!!
Just wanted to say thanks for the video, was able to use the concept to rebuild a sagging 14" double gate. Just wished I knew what latches you used that are on the upper gates?
I believe I posted a link previously in the comments, but most importantly, make sure the the hinges reach close to the center of the gate frame and center of the post (so not close to the edge) to prevent splitting. 👍
The half-lap joints should make them square, but you can measure from corner to corner to ensure they’re the same measurement (meaning they are square). I also used a speed square in the corners when attaching the frame together.
Hello I want to start a carrier as a handyman. I want to get some experience before I apply for jobs because everybody wants experienced workers. How can I do this? Should I go to school? If yes, do you know any school in Miami, if not anywhere in the US? Thx
Thanks for video, I'm going to model my fence gates after this. Just have one question, what size pocket hole screws did you use for the cross braces? I saw 1 1/4" on the box but was wondering if you used larger for 1 1/2" thickness material of gate? Thanks!
I used 1 1/4”, but you could use longer. I just used what I had on hand. 😊 The ones I used also weren’t exterior screws, but I’d recommend using exterior screws. You could even use regular exterior screw and just use the jig to make the pocket holes.👍
Any reason no one uses a power planer instead of multiple cuts and a chisel? Have seen this method a couple different videos and all use cuts and chisel
Great question. I would assume it is because most people don't have a power planer and the videos are meant to help people create something with tools they most likely already have like a circular saw. Also, you won't know where to stop with a power planer and you can set your depth with a saw.
I wonder how the glue holds up if you’re using treated wood. I’ve built decks with super tight butt joints and a month later there’s 1/4” gaps or more. Do you let it dry out first?
Ideally, it would be nice to use dry timber, but treated wood is rarely dry at the yard. I used treated lumber with Titebond Ultimate and mine has held up fine. Here is my updated video if you would like it! th-cam.com/video/lnKZmgu5gYM/w-d-xo.html
great video! i had a quick question. can use the same set up be used on a more robust fence? i am needing to replace my double gate fence but i also need to replace the post that it will be mounted on. so i figured why not beef up the fence
I don’t remember the exact costs, but I want to say it was just over $100. Because I used the existing posts and hardware, my only costs were screws, treated 2x4’s, and fence pickets. With the price of lumber where it is today, it is probably around double the cost.👍 I hope that helps!
That’s a great question. I don’t feel like the extra 1ft per gate would be detrimental to the strength of the gate(s). However, I’ve only used this method for a 12’ span. If it were me I’d be inclined to try it. If you build it, let me know how it goes. 👍
Thank you. I have a few more questions also. The reason for the duel 7’ gate is for the contingency of a large vehicle towing a trailer attempting the 90 degree turn through the gate opening of a fence adjacent to a fairly narrow alley. Question 1. In terms of a privacy fence gate using precut slats, should it be attempted to sneak in some extra support by glueing and screwing a few of the slats on? (Or is that a bad idea given weather expansion?). Question 2: given a slight amount of weather expansion/contraction on the fence itself, should precut treated pine or cedar fence slats be spaced by any amount (1/16”?) or simply put placed side-by-side? Question 3: I suppose the length of the internal hypotenuse of a 6x7 gate / cross boards would be just over 8 feet (perhaps about 8’ 5”) so I’d have to trace and cut down a 10’ board? Math: 6 x 7, A^2 +B^2 = C^2 = 36 + 49 = 85 = 9.21^2, so C=9.21 minus 7-to-9 inches for the internal dimension, thus 8’5” +/- 1-2 inches?.
Why do folks need a background of music that near is the same as the talking ? Some of us have some sort of hearing issues which make it a very irritating proces of trying to seperate the noise. I couldnt finish the video.
Hi Ryan!! Do you think 4x4 posts would be sufficient for gates that measure 5.3' (total 10.6')? They're going to be installed via hole digging and quickrete and then our driveway (which is also our side patio) will be poured concrete.
Hi there, I had to replace a gate and followed your guide exactly. It was easy and in one day, I now have a wonderful functioning double gate. Thank you for posting this and making the instructions clear and easy to follow!
Thanks for the feedback Brendan! Glad it was helpful!
nice work!! I am a picky contractor with over 20 years experience hanging gates and fence..
well done !!!! so much bad info on youtube thank god this guy nailed it!!!!
Thanks Bill! Definitely appreciate the positive feedback, especially from someone with your experience!👍😊
Simple, easy and practical. Thank you!
Glad it helped!!😊👍
Thanks for this video. I had a poorly constructed gate in our back yard that I replaced after watching. Couldn’t be any happier. It is much stronger and much lighter. Thanks again
Thanks for the comment Christopher! I’m glad it’s working great for you too! Way to take on the project!💪
Glue and screw...well done!
Thanks!
A critical element that you left out is the hinges and handing the gate!!! JEEEZE dude, so important.
I will cover that in my updated video! Thank you for the tip!
Finally after hours of videos! Yours is to the point and seems easy!! I need to build a fence and I'm so glad I found your video!
Thanks for the positive feedback! I hope your gate and fence turn out great!
Like others I did this and it worked great. All my neighbors thought I was a fence pro lol
Awesome! Way to go!😊👍
Love that gate. Exactly what I need to do in my driveway. Thx greetings from LA
Which LA? Lower Alabama, Louisiana, or Los Angeles?😁
@@rutterrealtygc LA= Los Angeles
La= Louisiana
Thank you for the tutorial. Just replaced our sagging, worn out gates. Wish I could send you a picture 🙂
Awesome! Way to go!!
WOW! OUTSTANDING VIDEO!!! Thank You so much for taking the time to do this video and sharing it, AWESOME JOB! PLEASE stay healthy and safe out there!
Thanks!👍😊
Like the video, gonna be doing this soon myself. Want my smoker and enclosed trailer on the inside of my gate. Cant wait to get it done.
Awesome! Best of luck on your project!!
Ha ha love the way you answer the nay sayers, 😂 brilliant simple video, there's a lot of knockers out there keep up the good work.
Thanks John. Feel free to check out my updated gate video with more explanation! 😊
Loved the gate, gave me what I needed to know to get mine started. Appreciate your time and effort.
Thanks! About to post an updated video this week!
I needed to see how u attached frames to those end poles!!
Updated vid:How to Build a Wooden Double Gate That Won't Sag!!
th-cam.com/video/lnKZmgu5gYM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the good explanation of how to. i will post a before and after of my project.
Awesome! Best of luck!!
I'm tackling my almost exact same project tomorrow. Your video is jit (just in time). Thank you for sharing young man.🙏👍😍
Thank you for the comment!
Dude ive been puttinf off replacing my termites gate made of 2x3s for years. Termites have it to dangling pieces. This is so much easier than metal. Cant wait to get some kilm dried 2x4s and make a frame and paint or stain it.
Awesome! Best of luck with your project!
Very informative. Thank you. My greetings from Greece
Thanks! Greetings!!😊
This is exaxtly what I was looking for. Thank you. Subscribed
Thank you! Glad it helped!!
Excellent video thanks for guiding me in my own process of making a wide gate
Thanks Dan! I hope it turned out great!!
Looks solid!
Thanks! I hope that yours turns out great!
Thanks for your fast reply, going to try this on my sons gate.
I hope it turns out great! Definitely make sure you have good posts in (larger than 4x4).😊👍
Or I’ve seen 2 4x4 posts stacked against each other as well. I just feel like 1 4x4 just isn’t sufficient for this big of a gate.
Excellent job
Thanks!
Great Looking double fence gate.
Thanks Don B!😊
I’m about to do mine, like the way you can’t tell it’s a gate from the street side. Looks good
Thank so much! Best of luck with your project!
Really Great! I just lack the tools to do the first cuts into each end . i was hoping for the simplest ever. maybe i can make it work, Handymen are not cheap!
This is true!
Tks for this video.Great job.
thanks for the video. I'd be interested in seeing close-ups of how you handled around the post. Especially where boards are placed, both on front and side of the post and the gate right against the post.
I’m about to make another video for the fence on the other side of my house.👍😊 I’ll make it more detailed!
What dimension lumber was used in that gate you think?
Thanks...just mirrors my own simple way of doing things. The pocket jigs are GREAT for joining wood. Will watch more of your videos...woodworking should be fun and not technical beyond the majority of us. This was fun, I did exactly like you did and it turned out great.
Love it! Thanks for the feedback!!
The show or videos are great’ to achieve some great ideas. TY
Thanks I hope your project is great!
❤ simple is best, hope you keep them coated with good preservatives
I unfortunately didn’t coat my fence boards! Lol I need to though!
Awesome! Yeah, I bought mine used and rehung them and adapted them to my opening. At the time I did not have a credit card. Got one now so I will be building a new gate the right way.
Nice!! 👍😊
good job my brother
Thanks Doberman Gang.😊
Neat way to guild a bate !
Thanks Z Ack.👍😊
Looks good man!
Thanks! It turned out well!
@@rutterrealtygc I’m installing my privacy fence as we speak lol. I’ll build the gates tomorrow.
Nice build!
Thanks Dwane.👍😊
Nice, straight-to-the-point video. Liked!
Thanks Bucket List!👍😊
Yes Nice job I will do mine like this,thanks for sahring your talent.
Thank you for the comment! Best of luck on your projects!
Thank you. Exactly what i needed....will be trying to do one just like it.
You are welcome! Thank you for the comment and best of luck on your project!
Thank you!!
You’re welcome!
This is the easiest to follow along video for what I need to accomplish! Thanks so much!
Thank you! Best of luck with your project!
That has helped me. Thank you.
Thank you and you’re welcome!! Best of luck with your project!!
Having a solid level surface really helps
Yeah, it’s not exactly level, but definitely better than some others I’ve seen!
Will do this too. Thanks. But how van you lock it from the outside or the inside?
The lock was flipped on this gate so you couldn’t access any screws on the latch and you throw a lock on it so it couldn’t be opened if desired. I’m about to publish a new video with more details.👍
Excellent thanks
Thanks! About to post an updated video with more detail this week!
Great video... Can I do that but instead of diagonal I want to go across to match my fence and then put up green wire to keep our dogs in :)
A 90 degree angle will not hold the weight of the fence like a 45 degree angle braced from the bottom of the hinge side to the top of the outside of the frame. Think of it this way... try holding the hood of your car open with your arms extended straight out... then lift the hood of your car up and prop it up with your arm at a 45 degree angle. Which one was easier to hold the weight of the hood? Sorry, but that's the best analogy I have for that question. : )
Thanks you for idea 💡
You’re welcome! Best of luck on your project!
Great job ....I'm making a new shed door , this video has really helped 👍
Awesome! Glad it helped!!
My son bought 6x6 post for gate post.
Nice!👍
Awesome !!!!!
Thank you!👍😊
Yall and your outdoor half lap joints. Lemme know if you get any more longevity than a mitre joint with some deck nails. Would love to see it work better, but u have my doubts considering wood movement with crossing grains out in the elements. In ND, you'd see cracks the first year with outdoor crossing grains. Just a guess though. Excellent videos.
Thanks for the comment. Still going strong!
Good info. Thanks!
Thank YOU for the feedback!
Love what you did, you built a light, yet sturdy frame. Buy NOT using heavy metal frames, you have taken a huge load of the posts, which is where gates often fail.
I would recommend a long flange hinge that attaches to each rail. Connecting the rail directly to the post with a long flange gate hinge is critical. I always do this, and I have large gates that still operate after 20 years.
The biggest issue with gates, is no matter how well, and light you build them, they will cause posts to lean, and therefore your posts need to be deeper, thicker, or other wise reinforced.
Yes! I’m actually going to update my hinges soon. I used what I had, but you’re right, bigger/longer hinges would be ideal! The hinges are actually too close to the edge of my 6x6 post and because of the post’s age, it can cause them to split if too near the edge.
Nice, I need to do a gate to get my dump trailer in and out. Right now I am removing a panel. With 1/2" clearance in each side.
very nice!
GOOD TIPS
Thanks A!👍
great thanks mate.
You’re welcome! Best of luck!
Nice n simple
Thanks Vanessalinh Nguyen!👍😊
Hi i m about to do my gate. Is only 10 feet. Wide. Tnks for the advice I dont have a table saw. I can do it with a skillsaw plus chisel i guess Ur advice is great Wish i could put pics and maybe i ll do a video a and upload on my channel ......tnk u. I start and work with real carpenters from N Carolina i think they are the best also from Ohio...tnk u. Miss my dad he was the best carpenter he built our humble home in Guatemala in the 70 s but our best carpenter is Jesus A en be bless nice home
Awesome! Best of luck on your project!
I really liked the way you notched out the frame. it adds so much more support. I've also been looking to this with fence posts. yes you heard me right. but the only problem with that, is it's too time consuming and I cant charge my customers that much. no offense, but what I mean by that, is this took you like 3 days to this double gate. I LOVE the idea, but most people are not gonna want to pay for that labor. Very good idea tho
JR Stags Thanks! It really would only take two days (if you want the glue to set before installing). I hear you though! Not really feasible for someone doing it for a living unless they want to charge a ton. Where would you notch out the posts? Where the hinges go?
@@rutterrealtygc I meant like on the fence part, not the gate. like when you build a whole fence instead of toe nailing the runners to the studs, notch em out. Kinda like you would do a deck or pergola
JR Stags Gotcha!!
Anyway to get a parts list for this? Appreciate it
The rectangle frames were comprised of 8 - 2x4x8s and the cross support pieces were 2x4x8s as well. So, 10 total for the frame. 30 pickets. 5lb box of 1 1/2” exterior screws for pickets and frame assembly. Wood glue. Hinges. Lag bolts for hinges and latch.
Did you use 2x4's to replace?
and your cross brace.... 2x4 as well? would a 2x6 add even more strength?
All boards for the frame were 2x4s. I wanted to keep it as light as possible, so I didn't use 2x6s. It might have more strength with 2x6, but it is going to be heavier for sure.
My husband is going to do this too. But he wants to lock the gate with a key is there anything you recommend for my hubby to do so he is able to lock the gate from the outside?
Many latches give you the ability to put a padlock through a hole so that the latch will not physically open without the padlock being removed.
Thank u I will let him know I was not sure but thank u godbless
Great video. I just subbed. I didn’t have a problem with the music. I thought the track and levels were good, however, if you take people’s suggestions and get rid of the music, I’m a huge fan of that sped up sound of hammers and drills and stuff. Maybe That makes me a ASMR fan, idk. Either way, keep up the great work!
Thanks J! ;)
Great job Ryan. I enjoyed that. Im thinking of something similar and this has made my mind. Thanks mate,,👍
Thanks for the comment Chris! I’m glad it helped you out!
Would you clarify how you cut each picket length to clear the ground?
Probably the best thing to do would be to lay a 2x4 underneath the gate where the boards will rest so they’ll have some clearance. I actually just used my foot as the spacer, but a straight 2x4 will achieve a better look for sure.😁
Hi Ryan, Great Video. I was wondering why the bracing has to touch both the sides in the corner? Does it have to be always less than 45 deg with plumb?
I put it against both sides in the corner so it would have more surface area to be firmly planted against without moving. I’m not sure I know what you’re asking with your second question.😬
Great video. Could i go two more feet ya think. Very helpful my friend
Great question! I personally haven't added an extra two feet, but it should bear the weight, because I've stood on my gates (where they meet) to undo my latch on the other side and it still held my weight fine. Something to consider is having larger posts (6x6 or larger) to support the weight of your gates, so they don't lean with the weight of your gates.
Ryan Rutter thank you very much for responding. I’m starting mine very soon
only thing... The Kreg Blue Screws ( if they are cannot always tell) they are not for treated wood or exterior use. not trolling it is fromexperence
Do you have a video for where the gates connect to the post ect..?? Thanks
We are about to redo another double gate and will make a more detailed video with those steps included. 👍 Sorry, I don’t have one currently. What’s your questions though? I might be able to answer it.👍
@@rutterrealtygc Like how the posts are in place and how the gates connect to the posts..Thanks
Thank's! Now i can complete my project. I was worried about the sagging. Love the way you fence your property over there. Over here in Sweden, you need a building permit if it's a certain hight, like yours.
Thanks for the comment! If I had to add a note, the posts should be 6x6 instead of 4x4's. Otherwise, the posts themselves can move, causing the gate to scrape the ground.
you need a permit here for anything over 6ft typically. My county is unincorporated so 7ft is our code - lucky me!
My opening is about 20 ft, so both gate will be 10ft each. Is that ok? What size wood is that?
20ft is a pretty large span. I’m using 2x4s for the framing. I’m sure it will work, but it probably won’t last as long as the wood weakens over time. Definitely want some beefy 8x8 or larger posts.
Will see if I can reduce the span. Thanks!
surely a mortise and tenon would have been a better choice of joint? peg it too so no need for screws? just a thought but thanks for taking the time to upload
Both suggestions would be a good choice. There’s always more than one way to do wood work (some better and even stronger than others). Most of my videos cater to the “average Joe” using minimal effort, time, and tools with great results. At the end of the day, the gate is strong, doesn’t sag, and holds my weight when I stand on it without sagging. That’s the goal, but I’m sure your suggestions would surely achieve the same results!👍😊 Thanks for the suggestions!
Would you recommend 6x6” posts when installing a gate that size? I have a neighbor that had someone replace his double gate. They used 2x3” non treated boards and a Z brace on the wrong side. Completely destroyed now and he was wanted me to replace it for him. Also and idea of what I should be charging him if he buys all the material. I’m not a licensed contractor but I Do my research and take pride in my work. I don’t want to overcharge him but it also is a lot of labor.
Great video by the way👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the feedback. New construction charges $500 for a double gate, so subtract the materials and there you go. Keep in mind that a contractor isn’t going to take the time to build your gate like this though. The number that came to my mind was $200-$250. I’d recommend 6x6 minimum! Maybe even 8x8. Make sure the posts are secure in the ground with cement or after you add the weight of the gates the posts can move! Best of luck to you and your project!😊👍
Absolutely use 6"×6" posts. I wouldn't hesitate to let the posts set in concrete for 24 - 48 hours before adding the weight of the gate. Especially for a gate with 5' leafs or bigger.
If you are removing the existing posts, I would add $50 per post. These can be a pain in the butt because the existing concrete must be removed if you are going back in the same place.
Good luck!
Where did you use the kreg tool? On the wide side or the narrow edge?
I used it on the cross brace joining it to each board it butts up against.
@@rutterrealtygc ok thanks
Wow that's an awesome job. I subscribed to see what else you are going to come up with. This is perfect for me. My span is going to be 17 ft. I am using two sections of 8 foot wide left over from my privacy fence cut in half horizontally to 36". adjusted to block the entrance to my driveway. It will be very heavy , but the post's are well seated into the ground. What Hardware would you recommend for opening and closing the gate 180 degrees. I would like Wheels because the driveway is concrete all the way across 60 ft L x18 ft.w. I look forward to doing this since I come from a builder family I'm sure I can handle it. I have every tool under the sun , but it's been a while since I made a heavy piece of furniture; soooo any words of wisdom? You made that so professionally. Thank you in advance. Sorry for such a long message
Hey "Sugar Free" and thank you for the comment. 17ft is a very large span. Someone previously asked about building an 18ft span and whether to use 2x4's or 2x6's and I responded, " I honestly couldn’t tell you what would be best. My first thought is that, although the 2x6 seems like the strong option, it’s also going to add additional weight on your joints. If it were me, I’d be very picky with my 2x6’s, finding ones that are lighter in weight than the other treated lumber that are still saturated from being treated. I’d honestly be inclined to get a quote for what it would cost to make the framework out of metal with that size or maybe even contact an friend who’s an engineer for their thoughts. Sorry that isn’t really much help. Anybody else have any input?" If you are going to be placing wheels on the gate(s), then the extra length won't matter as much because you are going to have the end of the gate supported by the wheels on the ground as well. As far as hinges are concerned, I would look for a longer hinge that will extend from the post, far out on the gate (supporting the weight of the gate as far out as possible). I hope that helps!
@@rutterrealtygc thank you Ryan. That is an awesome answer the posts are already in the ground ; those are 4x4s of pressure-treated lumber . I'm just looking for input On hinges and Hardware. I appreciate what you said because you actually said what I was thinking. That was the nicest longest message I've ever received and I apologize. I enjoyed watching your video so much I've shared it and watched it again .
@Sugar Free Thanks Sugar Free. I will note, if you are putting that large of a fence you definitely want to use larger than 4x4 posts or you can put two 4x4 posts together (as I've seen some do). However, I feel like a larger 6x6 post or 8x8 post would be more sufficient for your application. We are using 6x6 posts and honestly we should have replaced them before the gates were hung because they are dried out from when they were installed and starting to split because the hinges are two close to the outside of the post (hand to face emoji inserted here). Find hinges that will rest near the center of the post when installed, because of the for-mentioned problem. Best of luck to your projects!!
quality content! Thank you so much! Gave me a few ideas =)
What size screw did you use for the frame and what size wood? 2x4 or 2x6?
2x4 frame. 1.25” screw.
What wood and size did you use for the frame?
2x4 treated lumber. The length will depend on your opening.👍
Do you have a cut list?
I don’t, mostly because everyone’s gate will vary slightly.
Yep. That's how ya do it. 👍👏
Thanks Samuel!😊
How exactly did you attach the center brace? Screwing from the outside of the frame inwards?
I pre-drilled some pocket holes for pocket screws.
Just wanted to say thanks for the video, was able to use the concept to rebuild a sagging 14" double gate. Just wished I knew what latches you used that are on the upper gates?
I believe I posted a link previously in the comments, but most importantly, make sure the the hinges reach close to the center of the gate frame and center of the post (so not close to the edge) to prevent splitting. 👍
How u did u get them squared
The half-lap joints should make them square, but you can measure from corner to corner to ensure they’re the same measurement (meaning they are square). I also used a speed square in the corners when attaching the frame together.
Hello I want to start a carrier as a handyman. I want to get some experience before I apply for jobs because everybody wants experienced workers. How can I do this? Should I go to school? If yes, do you know any school in Miami, if not anywhere in the US? Thx
I have no idea. I guess you could start at a trade school. I don’t know what’s available in Miami.🤷♂️
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Doc Tony? The chiropractic lawyer? lol
@@rutterrealtygc yeah, the way you point your fingers like a gun just like him, its hysterical.
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Dave Dammit 🤣What?!
Thanks for video, I'm going to model my fence gates after this. Just have one question, what size pocket hole screws did you use for the cross braces? I saw 1 1/4" on the box but was wondering if you used larger for 1
1/2" thickness material of gate? Thanks!
I used 1 1/4”, but you could use longer. I just used what I had on hand. 😊 The ones I used also weren’t exterior screws, but I’d recommend using exterior screws. You could even use regular exterior screw and just use the jig to make the pocket holes.👍
@@rutterrealtygc thanks for the response! I ended up using 2 1/2" exterior pocket screws and worked like a charm. Thanks again
Any reason no one uses a power planer instead of multiple cuts and a chisel? Have seen this method a couple different videos and all use cuts and chisel
Great question. I would assume it is because most people don't have a power planer and the videos are meant to help people create something with tools they most likely already have like a circular saw. Also, you won't know where to stop with a power planer and you can set your depth with a saw.
Great Job 👍
Journey Ortize Thanks Journey!
I wonder how the glue holds up if you’re using treated wood. I’ve built decks with super tight butt joints and a month later there’s 1/4” gaps or more. Do you let it dry out first?
Ideally, it would be nice to use dry timber, but treated wood is rarely dry at the yard. I used treated lumber with Titebond Ultimate and mine has held up fine. Here is my updated video if you would like it! th-cam.com/video/lnKZmgu5gYM/w-d-xo.html
How u cut them like that where u glue them
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great video! i had a quick question. can use the same set up be used on a more robust fence? i am needing to replace my double gate fence but i also need to replace the post that it will be mounted on. so i figured why not beef up the fence
I don’t know why you couldn’t use the same set up. The more weight that you add, the more you might want to consider a metal frame though.👍😁
What size posts did you use?
I used the existing 6x6 posts.👍😊
How much did the project cost?
I don’t remember the exact costs, but I want to say it was just over $100. Because I used the existing posts and hardware, my only costs were screws, treated 2x4’s, and fence pickets. With the price of lumber where it is today, it is probably around double the cost.👍 I hope that helps!
Given a 6’ high privacy fence, what is the longest span (widest double gate) this configuration could make? Two 7’ gates to make a 14’ span / opening?
That’s a great question. I don’t feel like the extra 1ft per gate would be detrimental to the strength of the gate(s). However, I’ve only used this method for a 12’ span. If it were me I’d be inclined to try it. If you build it, let me know how it goes. 👍
Thank you. I have a few more questions also. The reason for the duel 7’ gate is for the contingency of a large vehicle towing a trailer attempting the 90 degree turn through the gate opening of a fence adjacent to a fairly narrow alley. Question 1. In terms of a privacy fence gate using precut slats, should it be attempted to sneak in some extra support by glueing and screwing a few of the slats on? (Or is that a bad idea given weather expansion?). Question 2: given a slight amount of weather expansion/contraction on the fence itself, should precut treated pine or cedar fence slats be spaced by any amount (1/16”?) or simply put placed side-by-side?
Question 3: I suppose the length of the internal hypotenuse of a 6x7 gate / cross boards would be just over 8 feet (perhaps about 8’ 5”) so I’d have to trace and cut down a 10’ board? Math: 6 x 7, A^2 +B^2 = C^2 = 36 + 49 = 85 = 9.21^2, so C=9.21 minus 7-to-9 inches for the internal dimension, thus 8’5” +/- 1-2 inches?.
Why do folks need a background of music that near is the same as the talking ? Some of us have some sort of hearing issues which make it a very irritating proces of trying to seperate the noise. I couldnt finish the video.
Thanks for your feedback George! I’ll look into adding subtitles like I have on my other videos!👍😊
Solid music. Solid video
@@rutterrealtygc no subtitles needed, just kill the music while you're talking.
Dave Dammit word. I’ll keep that in mind or turn the music down!😉
@@rutterrealtygcTurn it off!
Hi Ryan!! Do you think 4x4 posts would be sufficient for gates that measure 5.3' (total 10.6')? They're going to be installed via hole digging and quickrete and then our driveway (which is also our side patio) will be poured concrete.
I wood do 6x6 minimum, but preferably 8x8
Did you use 2x4 or 2x6 for this frame
2x4
Stevie wonder make them ? bottom of the gates look like the iris sea
😆 feel free to cut yours straight!👍😊